Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - Shooting My Shot with Kevin Costner

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

This week, we're going through some recent headlines to call out how absurd they are: everything from my roster of men, to who should be sleeping with one eye open, to me dancing on bars and ...pouring shots in guy's mouths. Plus, whether or not I'm debating baby #4.A word from my sponsors:Quince - Go to quince.com/honest for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your orderLMNT - Get your free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase at drinklmnt.com/HONEST. Wayfair - Give your home the refresh it needs with Wayfair. Head to Wayfair.com right now.Shopify - Shopify - Go to shopify.com/cavallari to upgrade your selling todayPrimal Kitchen - primalkitchen.com/honest to save 20% off your next order with code HONEST at checkout.Bon Charge - Go to Boncharge.com/HONEST and use coupon code HONEST25 to save 25%. For more Let's Be Honest, follow along at:@kristincavallari on Instagram@kristincavallari and @dearmedia on TikTokLet's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari on YouTubeProduced by Dear Media.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This is Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality TV, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. What's going on guys? How is my honest crew? I'm coming at you with construction workers behind me and I've been sitting here waiting it out hoping that they would be able to put my grill back before I started my podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:39 But I'm just sitting here watching the clock and I have to get this podcast in before my kids get home from school. So we're just going to make the most of it. They are putting my grill bucket on. And you guys, the fact that it's the middle of April and my construction is still not done, you have no idea. My closet still isn't done. I moved into my house in September and it is now almost the end of April and I have been living out of boxes and one rolling rack since I moved into this house. To say I am fed up is an understatement. Yeah, so they're putting my girl back together.
Starting point is 00:01:11 My closet is supposed to be done next week, but they've been saying that for a month. So I'll believe it when I see it, but I will be excited when that is done so I can finally unpack all of my boxes because I just have all of my clothing boxes, what do they call them? Wardrobe. All of the wardrobe boxes are just lining my bedroom walls. So I can't wait for that. So today I'm doing another episode about
Starting point is 00:01:37 calling out headlines and they're just obnoxiousness. The obnoxiousness? The ridiculousness of them. The first time I did it was one of my top podcasts that I've ever done. So you guys obviously loved it, which I love, especially because it's one of my favorite. It was one of my favorite ones to do. I love calling bullshit on the press. So here we go. Part two.
Starting point is 00:02:03 I feel like the first one was older stuff that I had sort of been sitting on for years or like things that I had been wanting to clear up for a long ass time. So today we're gonna do some that are maybe a little bit more recent and in no particular order. My producer sent me some and then I decided to Google myself and go down that road. And I will tell you, I purposely leave certain ones out if they involve pretty much any X. It's safe to say that if there's a headline about an X,
Starting point is 00:02:35 I will not discuss it because I've told you guys before, I don't wanna talk about them to give them more attention. You know what I'm saying? So let's jump in. Okay. I saw that by the way, oh God, the amount of sports outlets that write about me, I had actually no idea. I mean, it makes sense because obviously I was married to a professional athlete, but they're fucking nasty. Sports, I think is actually worse than pop culture sometimes. I was like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:03:08 So here's one, okay? I was actually, and I wrote down the publication. I was gonna say it, but I'm not even gonna give them that. So here was the headline. Kristin Cavallari adds yet another athlete to her dating portfolio. Let me explain something to you guys. I don't have that many athletes on my dating portfolio. Let me explain something you guys. I don't have that many
Starting point is 00:03:26 athletes on my dating portfolio. Thank you very much. People love to sit here and be like, oh she loves athletes. Oh another athlete. Oh, let's go from the very beginning guys. Let's go back to the beginning. First athlete I ever dated, Matt Lienart. I didn to think about that for a second. Matt Lienart, I dated him my senior year of high school. Okay, he was the, at the time, the quarterback for USC. He had just won the Heisman Trophy. He was a big deal.
Starting point is 00:03:55 My Laguna fans will remember I was so excited about him and the fact that I was dating a senior in college my senior year of high school. Well, I was excited about the time. Looking back, I'm like, I had no business hanging out with a college kid, right? I mean, that's safe to say, safe to say. And my dad met Matt.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I mean, my dad knew that, you know, it didn't stop him from letting me see him. I will say, Matt was a really good guy. That could have been a way worse situation. Matt was a very good guy. We have remained friends I would say. I mean it's not like I talk to him all the time but we I would say are friendly and he I liked his family a lot like very good guy. Okay so that was the first athlete I dated and then you guys I'm trying to think oh I went on one or two dates with a baseball player. It was
Starting point is 00:04:47 nothing. Like again, I mean, and then I met Jay, my ex-husband. Okay, so and then post Jay, I dated that ex-hockey player who I just recently talked about. By the way, we hung out twice. Nate and I hung out twice. And yes, was it the first time two days in a row? Sure. And the second time, I think it was three days in a row. Yeah, but like two occasions, two different occasions.
Starting point is 00:05:17 So again, I mean, it's like, I don't know, the word date is like, I don't really know. I'd say I went on a couple dates with him, but I'm trying to think, you guys. I really think that's it as far as athletes. I'm a 38-year-old woman, and what did we just count for? That's four athletes. I'm 38 years old.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I mean, that's, I don't think that's that many. I'm trying to, I'm like really, hey, if I'm forgetting someone, DM me, you know? And I will call myself out and be like, I totally forgot about this person. But like, I really am sitting here being like, I've, and I wouldn't even say like the baseball player, I would not say was on my dating portfolio.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I went on two dates with him. That doesn't count. Going out with someone twice does not fucking count. I'd say dating someone is when it's longer than a month. So as far as I'm concerned, I've dated two athletes, Matt and Jay. Well, I married one of them. So fuck you, sports outlets.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Okay, so I think that this is E, and obviously I have a good relationship with E, but it's not like they're online people are the same TV people, you know? It's a whole separate category of employees that they have over there. They've had this article going for a minute and it's Kristen Cavalieri's complete dating history from reality TV stars to pro athletes and more. And it seems as though they sort of update it every time there's someone new. So again, because I just recently said who I dated around New Year's, they've updated it.
Starting point is 00:06:50 So it was a recent headline that I had seen. And I clicked on the article and they do list a lot of people. And you guys, some of them are not fucking true. So I'm gonna just give you two of the ones that aren't true just to show you what bullshit this is. Because again, there's no fact checking. There's no, like they just, I think I, So I'm gonna just give you two of the ones that aren't true just to show you what bullshit this is because again There's no fact-checking. There's no like they just I think I'll tell you who they are. Okay, so
Starting point is 00:07:11 The first one that's not true is Chris Evans Chris Evans and I had a similar friend group and I think that we were at an event one night as a group But like there was a group of us there like we saw each other socially I never dated Chris Evans ever, ever, ever. Didn't even go on one date with him. Like literally nothing ever happened. And there's been these rumors for years that we dated. Well, we'd never dated.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And he puts it in there like that's factual. Like they did their fact checking and they know, well, it's not fucking true. So you can remove him from my dating portfolio. Thank you very much. Another person I did not date is Justin Bobby. And I've said that a thousand times. I never saw him outside of filming. Never, ever. Not one time did I see him outside of filming. I think the only time I kissed him was when they asked me to kiss him on camera. And listen, back in the day, I was like, yes, I'm a team player. I was getting
Starting point is 00:08:04 paid for the Hills like I would a scripted show. I was like, yes, I'm a team player. I was getting paid for The Hills like I would a scripted show. I was like, yeah, I'll do that. Made it more fun for me. Never saw him outside of filming. I never dated him. I don't even know if I would consider me dating him on the show. Would they had me get on his motorcycle one time? Okay, well, that was all for the show.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I never would have just done that. So you guys can remove him from that list as well. And that's just two of, I don't even remember how many people were on there, but that just goes to show you, that just goes to show you guys that I've been linked to a lot of people in the day that are not true or not true. Okay. There's a lot about the kids. So anytime I show my kids now on social media, there's always an article. Kristin Cavallari gives rare glimpse into daughter Sailor. Kristin Cavallari gives rare,
Starting point is 00:08:51 every time it's a rare glimpse into whichever kid. The first time she's shown so and so. Like this one headline was, Kristin Cavallari shows rare look at daughter Sailor nine after previously keeping her kids off social media. And then a month earlier Kristin Cavallari shares glimpse at bond with daughter and rare photos. Literally every single headline is rare rare glimpse like and I've been showing
Starting point is 00:09:16 them not a lot I mean I guess it is rare that I show them but it's become the new norm for me to show glimpses of them. And I started that probably a year and a half ago, actually probably longer than that, it's probably been about two years, two, two, a year and a half to two years ago, because, and again, my stance was always, I wanted my kids to be old enough
Starting point is 00:09:37 to make the decision themselves, and they've all been very open about how they want to be on social media, they wanted to film, honestly, Cavalieri, which is coming out in June. So it's gonna be more of the norm for me to show them. And I think maybe as they continue to get a little bit older,
Starting point is 00:09:52 potentially maybe even more, you know? So it's, I don't know. And I just, I don't know. I feel like the, well, I don't know, the headline thing, like it just, it's so ridiculous because it's now the norm. It's been the norm and it's still, because these are really recent headlines.
Starting point is 00:10:10 It's still is like, whoa, because it just, they want to make it as outlandish as possible just so that they get clicks, which I get, but it's not rare anymore. I've shown them all three of them multiple times. So you guys can lose the rare glimpse. Okay guys, let's take a second here and talk really quickly about the brand Quince. I am doing a lot of fun stuff this spring. I'm going to Stagecoach, which I've told you guys,
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Starting point is 00:13:54 secret for all things renovation. I am currently living in renovations. I've talked about it a thousand times. No, my closet is still not done. I just started on my pool and my pool house. So this is my life currently. Right now I'm browsing the Wayfair site because I am looking for decor for my pool house. My pool house is essentially gonna be my gym and there's gonna be a bathroom out there and storage. They actually have really great storage containers which I love because I'm
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Starting point is 00:15:52 these very first headlines. And then when I was doing my research for this episode, I did see a ton of headlines about Bobby Flay has recently come out with his new girlfriend. He's in a relationship. And actually, I just met him and his new girlfriend. He's in a relationship and actually I just met him and his new girlfriend in Miami for a drink and I really liked her a lot and really happy for him. Okay, but all of the headlines from him coming out with his new girlfriend include me in it. Like, and it says that I rejected him,
Starting point is 00:16:19 which we talked about on the podcast. It wasn't a rejection. We really cleared up all of, we cleared up everything. And the fact, this it's like, I don't necessarily care for me because this doesn't really affect me. But like I feel for Bobby in this situation, it's so dumb. How am I in Bobby Flay's headlines
Starting point is 00:16:39 about his new relationship? And I never rejected him. It's just so, it's so ridiculous because no, you can't have a headline of just like, Bobby Flay is happy in a new relationship. No, there's got to be some sort of a dig, right? Like I feel like there always has to be like some little like, fuck you from the headlines. Because again, then people want to be like, oh, oh, like, oh, she rejected him. I don't know. It's just so, they're so silly to me. They're so silly to me. They're so silly
Starting point is 00:17:05 to me because if you didn't know what happened, this headline makes it seem like Bobby asked me out and I literally was like fuck you I would never go out with you. Bobby's like one of my good friends. It's so dumb. It's so dumb and I was just with him and his new girlfriend in Miami so write a headline about that. Okay so this one, Kristen Cavallari dances on bars, pours shots for men at gay saloon. This was the final night of filming my, well it was a fine, in New York, it was the final night of my podcast tour and it was our last night filming for the new show and it's just so funny from like knowing what actually happened to headlines like
Starting point is 00:17:48 this. Okay so I didn't really want to go out. I've told you guys I was exhausted but the show wanted to get this scene of me dancing on the bar sort of as like a throwback to Laguna you know it's just kind of like it's a fun way to like wrap up the new show. And so I'm all about getting a good shot you know, it's just kind of like, it's a fun way to like wrap up the new show. And so I'm all about getting a good shot, you know, for the show. Not shot like alcohol shot, like shot for the show, like camera shot. And they had me get up on the bar and they wanted me to pour shots in everybody's mouth because at this gay saloon, that's what they do. Like all the bartenders and waiters are these hot gay guys.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And then every, I don't know, like 10, 15 minutes, they all get up on the bar and they dance. They've got like their little dance routine and then they pour shots in everybody's mouth. So they wanted me to get up there with the guys and do that. And okay, fine. I was game, you know, but I was trying to drag up Justin and Scoot. And as we're all getting up on the bar, the owner of this bar was so mean to Scoot where I was like, are you in Scoot is the nicest human being on the planet. You can never be mean to Scoot. So I was like,
Starting point is 00:18:58 fuck you. Then I'm if Scoot can't come up on the bar with me, then I'm not dancing on the bar either. Like, I'm sorry. No, you're not just gonna like use me and so I got off the bar and the owner was like no no it's an insurance thing and I'm like I can kind of understand where there's a liability because I guess I was on the show's insurance but Scoot was not. So I can understand that but the way that she spoke to him was so inappropriate that it really just rubbed me the wrong way so I was like fuck that I'm not getting up on the bar But of course for honest the Cavalieri they really want that shot to end the show So they convinced me to get back up there and as I'm up on the bar
Starting point is 00:19:35 I see that the owner is filming me and I was so because I knew guys I've been in this situation so many times So I knew exactly what was gonna happen. But okay, I'm doing it for the show because I'm a team player. And the next day I wake up and on TMZ, what the fuck do you know is me dancing on the bar because what that does is it gets her bar press. And so you better believe, of course, she was gonna release that video of me dancing on the bar, which I fucking knew, which pissed me off. But okay. And then there are more headlines from that. So, but again, it's just like, if you don't really pay attention to me,
Starting point is 00:20:12 but you just see me in the press and you read the headline, Chris and Cavallari dances on bars, pours shots for men, like you're of course going to be like, what a dirty horror. Like she's a mother. Like I get it. I get why people Say the things that they do about me when they don't know me or know the backstory This is never something I would do on my own. I was doing this for my show. It was a gay bar it was literally like I Just think things like it's so unfair. That's so unfair. Yes
Starting point is 00:20:44 every headline about me is fucking trash. And yes, people judge the fuck out of me. Wait, I'm seeing my workers leaving, but they're not done. Guys, you're not done. The grill is not in still. What is happening? They've been here for an hour, you guys. Maybe two hours, but they're done for the day.
Starting point is 00:21:02 This is why my house is not done. Anyways, yeah, so it's like headlines like that just really drive me crazy, because I'm like, if you just knew the whole story and that pisses me off, especially because it came from the woman who owns the bar after she was such an asshole to my friends. I didn't like that.
Starting point is 00:21:20 And I knew, I knew exactly what she was up to. All right, anyways, okay, This was from January 6th. So, you know fairly recently And it says Kristen Cavallari shares she's debating having baby number four You guys this is from a really silly Dumb tick-tock that I did to someone else's audio. And from that, they took a headline that I'm talking about having another baby. This couldn't be more fucking ridiculous if they tried.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I was doing audio to the Housewives. I think it was Kim and Kyle Richards, and it's Kim saying to Kyle from a show, years ago, I think, that she's thinking about having another baby, and then she's like, oh no, I wanna travel. Like so ridiculous and so funny. And Justin and I did the audio to it.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And I think people forget TikTok is a big old fucking joke. Nothing I post on TikTok is accurate or factual or should be taken for anything other than being a joke. This is so dumb. This is so dumb. Because here's the other thing too. Like what I've noticed that people say, again, like people who are not my fans and just see me in the headline world is like, oh, now she's talking about having another baby just to stay relevant. Like everyone thinks I'm just like doing all of this shit to stay relevant. When it's like, if I swear to God, if I could say the things that I say on this podcast and no one ever write about them, I would be really happy because my audience
Starting point is 00:22:55 gets me like, you guys get it, right? But it's the people who don't pay attention to me closely, who literally just see me in the press or like, so they take this, like imagine like these are the only things you ever saw about me. I'm dancing on a bar pouring shots for men. I'm talking about how I wanna have another baby after I'm dancing on a bar pouring shots. I rejected Bobby Flay, I'm dating all these athletes. Like I just now I'm sharing my kids to stay relevant.
Starting point is 00:23:21 You know what I'm saying? Like it's a lot. That's why when I see these headlines, I'm like, god, I would hate me too. I really get it. I can't fucking win in the press. I do a TikTok as a joke and they write, like I'm talking about having another baby.
Starting point is 00:23:35 It's not even my voice. How can you write a headline from that one? It's not my audio. It's not my audio. Fuck you guys, that should be illegal. Audio. It's not my audio. Fuck you guys, that should be illegal. I want to talk to you guys about a company I love, which is Shopify. Starting your own business can obviously be extremely intimidating and lonely, actually,
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Starting point is 00:28:43 Morgan Wallin should sleep with one eye open after what Kristen Cavallari said. Yeah, Morgan, I'm coming for you. So I, someone asked me, one of my shows on my podcast tour, Fuck Mary Kill. I couldn't even tell you who the other two guys were now. And Morgan was one of them. And I, because I feel like I kind of know how to navigate a headline. And so here what I did was I said who I don't honestly don't remember the other two guys. I said whoever they were and then I said and for Kill, well by default, like you know who lands there.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I never said his name because I thought if I didn't say his name then they can't write a headline about it. But no, they still did. They still did. And actually this was, there was a ton of headlines about it. This one I just thought was the dumbest. Like, yeah, Morgan should sleep with an eye open. Like I give a fuck. I don't even, whatever. It's like so dumb. It's not even worth wasting my breath and defending myself because I was actually just about to and then I was like, but then they'll write a headline about that. And I really, I don't want any fucking headlines with Morgan. Like I don't want headlines with any of these guys. Like trust me. That's why I really,
Starting point is 00:29:53 I really thought I was dodging a bullet there, but no, no, I didn't. I didn't. But you know, here's the thing. And when people are always like, she's trying to stay relevant. Well, people are clicking on the headlines. Like that's the only thing I can tell you. If people weren't clicking on my headlines, they wouldn't keep writing about me. And so I guess like that's what I have to remember to not lose my mind is, yeah, people love to talk shit, but also people are also the reason why they continue to write these
Starting point is 00:30:20 headlines. Like the Morgan headlines, when I was talking about Morgan and those headlines that happened from it, clearly had so many clicks on them because they still, any stupid little opportunity they can to write a headline about it, they do. So that just tells me that it's because people are clicking on them. So if you guys really wanted me to go away, then don't fucking click on my headlines. I don't know what else to say to you. This is one I'm actually really excited to clear up and this is Kristen Cavallari slams hater who criticized her makeup tutorial.
Starting point is 00:30:52 So this was on Instagram and I did, I did a makeup tutorial and someone wrote this really dumb comment that said I shouldn't start with my eyes first. Like basically like, I wish I had it. I could find it, but it would take too long. Basically, what a fucking idiot I am that I started my makeup routine with my eyes
Starting point is 00:31:12 and not my face. And I did, I reposted it and I was like, oh, well, God, if you do your base first, well then it must be right. And here's, I knew I should have said this at the time, for me that wasn't about the makeup routine. I don't give a flying fuck if that girl thinks I did my makeup routine wrong. My issue with Instagram and what's happened to our society is that everyone thinks their way is the right way and this is what I was trying to convey,
Starting point is 00:31:45 but I think where it got lost for some people is I meant to say this has nothing to do with a makeup routine. It's such a bigger thing than that, because what's happened, and this is why I typically don't read my comments, and this is why I really do hate social media, because guess what, Jan?
Starting point is 00:32:01 If you wanna do your makeup routine and you wanna start with your foundation, be my guest. That's great. I'm happy for you to start with your foundation. And also, if I want to start with my eyes, that's also okay. Because guess what?
Starting point is 00:32:17 What's right for me isn't necessarily right for everybody else and vice versa. What works for you maybe doesn't work for me. And you know what? That's okay. I think it's like what drives me crazy is people being like, oh well that's wrong, oh you did it wrong, it needs to be like this. Not everyone's the same. Not everyone's the same. Again, what I like and what you like are two different things. What works for me, what works for you are two different things
Starting point is 00:32:42 and that's okay. We need to get to a place of just being like, cool, you live your life the way you want to live your life and I'll live my life the way I want to live life. I have never understood why what I do in my life affects you. Why are you letting my life affect you and getting all worked up? I mean, I know why, you know, when you break it down, I understand. I really understand triggers for people. That's about you. Like Jan with the makeup tutorial, like girl, clearly I triggered something in you that makes you feel like you're doing your makeup routine wrong. Because if not, you wouldn't have had
Starting point is 00:33:21 that kind of reaction to it. Like why take the time to tell me I'm doing it wrong? Guys, guess what? There's no wrong way to do a makeup routine. There's no wrong way actually. It's whatever works for you. And you know what? I do like doing my eyes first. In case shit falls on my face,
Starting point is 00:33:37 I don't have to redo my concealer. But again, do you. I don't give a flying fuck how you do your makeup. The same way you shouldn't care how I do mine because how I do my makeup actually doesn't affect you. Believe it or not. Anything I do in my life, no matter what it is, doesn't affect anybody else.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Maybe it affects my kids a little bit. Maybe it affects some of my friendships or whatever. But like, if you don't know me, nothing in my life should affect you. Really, you know what I mean? And vice versa. Like, and so that was what I had wanted my response to betray.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And I think for some people it got lost in translation because I didn't just blanketly state that it was not about a makeup routine. It was more just like how people are constantly projecting on social media that their way is better, my way is shit. And again, I just think like if we can all get to a place of letting each other live their lives, I just think it would be a happier place.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And it starts with us and not letting people trigger us. And instead, if you do get triggered, take a hard look in the mirror instead of telling someone else what they're doing is fucked up because it's maybe it's not for them maybe it's actually working really well for them and maybe you're the one that needs to shift something in your life you know that has been bugging me ever since I hope this episode doesn't come across like me just bitching. I do kind of feel like I'm just bitching a little bit today. Like I've got like some pent up fucking frustration or something.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I really hope that's not the case. Oh, this is another good one. Okay. Kristen Cavallari wants to date a regular guy but shoots shot with Forever Crush Kevin Costner. This is also from Instagram. I very rarely will do a Q&A on Instagram, but I think I was in LA and I had a couple hours. I was just kind of killing time. So I decided to do a little Q&A and someone said something about Kevin Costner and I responded.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I was like, give him my number, like just kidding around. And I said, forever crush. He's not necessarily a crush, but like, of course he's like an all-timer. You know what I mean? We're like, he is forever. Like he's Kevin Costner. He's always good looking.
Starting point is 00:35:55 He's like, he's just that guy. But I don't have like an active crush on him. But anyways, and I said on Instagram, I said, don't, the weeklies, don't turn this into some bullshit headline like we're joking around, we're having fun, let this stay here on Instagram. And what do you know, the next day there were
Starting point is 00:36:14 a thousand headlines about how I was shooting my shot with Kevin Costner, which couldn't be further from the truth. You guys, I was like, but you, it was kind of interesting about that is All of my Instagram followers saw it like everyone on Instagram We're actually DMing me those headlines being like you called it you called it like I do feel like People are starting to see how absurd this stuff is, but it still is like, oh my god So again, right imagine like you don't follow me, but you just see me in the headlines.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I'm shooting my shot with Kevin Costner. Oh, but yeah, I'm also dating all of these athletes. I'm dancing on a bar, pouring shots. I'm talking about how I wanna have another baby. I'm coming for Morgan Wallen. I'm criticizing people who don't like my makeup routine. It's just like, oh, oh my god. It's so ridiculous, you guys.
Starting point is 00:37:04 It's so ridiculous, you guys. It's so ridiculous. Okay, and then we'll end with this one. Kristin Cavallari doesn't want kids anywhere near guns after XJ Cutler arrested with firearm. And the anywhere near guns is quoted. And here's why I'm going to talk about this headline, because Here's why I'm going to talk about this headline, because this happens a lot, a lot, where it will say, so-and-so celebrity, I am not referring to myself as a celebrity, but you know what I'm saying. That's like a pet peeve of mine. So-and-so says X, Y, and Z in quotes, responding to their ex-husband, their whatever. And people take that, like in this case,
Starting point is 00:37:48 like that is a direct quote from me. Because that's how it seems, right? This headline makes it seem like I said, I don't want my kids anywhere near guns. You guys, this could not be, well, okay, how am I gonna say this? I'm not gonna comment on the validity to this, but what I'm gonna call out is
Starting point is 00:38:10 that that is not a quote from me. And what they end up saying then in the article is a source says Kristin Cavallari doesn't want her kids anywhere near guns. Well, who the fuck is that source? It didn't come from me. And a lot of times I think that people think when an article like this is written, it's coming from, like in this case, my camp. Guys, it is not. I promise you right now, and maybe I've talked about
Starting point is 00:38:34 this too on the podcast, I can't remember, but after my last relationship, he immediately was hanging out with this girl and there was an article that was like, Chris and Cavallari's unbothered, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, people are going to think that is coming from me. Guys, I want, I never want to be written about with him ever again. I would never comment even off the record because I don't want my name associated with these people any more than it already is. That is the only thing I can say is I don't want my name in a headline ever again with my ex-husband, like ever again guys,
Starting point is 00:39:09 or any ex for that matter. Like I just want them to go away, honestly. I, watch that'll be a fucking headline. Let's see guys, let's see. That Chris and Cavallari says she never wants another headline with ex J color ever again. But these piss me off the most out of anything because it does look like a quote from me or from my camp and it is not.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I see these all the time and I'm like, this is not fucking true. It's not fucking true. How the hell would they know this? They don't know you guys. This is not coming from me. I would never comment about J and him having a gun. That's not something I would comment on. Or watch, maybe the headline from this episode
Starting point is 00:39:52 will be what Kristen says about Jay and a gun. You know what I'm saying? They always have this way of twisting shit, right? It'll be interesting to see if anything comes out of this episode. And I'll call them out again. But those ones really drive me crazy because it does. And I've had to explain this.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I had to explain this to my podcast producer, actually. We were talking about Scott Disick. And after I had talked about my situation with Scott, there was a headline similar to this that said something to the effect of like, Scott Disick felt it was unfair or doesn't understand, you know, like something to that effect about like Scott Disick, like felt it was unfair or like doesn't understand, you know, like something to that effect about like why it was coming for him.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And my producer, we were talking and she was like, shout out Rosie, hi Rosie, who's editing this episode. But she said, oh, well he commented, he commented on it. Sorry if I've already said this on the podcast, I can't remember what I haven't said. And I was like, no, he did not comment. I was like, let me see the article. So she sent it to me. I was like, this is not him commenting. But I know that's how it seems. And that's how it seems. That's how that's so shady and so crazy that they can put quotation marks around something. Implying that someone said something when really they're referring
Starting point is 00:41:05 to a source and again who the fuck is the source? Like that's a joke. That's an actual joke. So again I guess my takeaway from all this stuff is if you can look at pop culture and apparently sports as just it's just entertainment right? It's just a big circus and if you can know there's like 2% truth to it and just look at it as entertainment and fun, then have at it. But it's the people who like live and die by this stuff that I'm like, God, you have no idea.
Starting point is 00:41:38 You have no idea. If I could just explain myself, if you just really got to know me, like you would know I'm not this crazy fucking bitch. Like I know I look crazy. I know I look like I'm just a wild animal out there in the streets. I'm really not like that I promise. I'm also gonna do when the show comes out and the tour episodes come out I'm gonna do an episode about tour headlines specifically because there already were a bunch. Well and we talked about the Morgan one, but there already were a bunch.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And I know when the show comes out, there's going to be a lot more. So I'm going to save those though for like June, July around there when that comes out. But anyways, oh, these are fun. So yeah, thank you guys for listening and I will see you guys next week.

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