Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - Sushi, Sake, and Celebrity Gossip with Justin Anderson

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

Justin and I head to our favorite sushi restaurant in Nashville for a sushi and sake pairing while we say way too much about pop culture news and conspiracy theories. With the drinks flowing, we don't hold back. We delve into the moon landing and whether we think Katy Perry and all of the other women actually went into space, when Justin made Katy Perry's hair fall out, Taylor Swift and the Blake Lively drama, the Biebs, the Diddy trial, and who we think are the coolest women in Hollywood.A word from my sponsors:Quince - Go to Quince.com/honest for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.Jolie - Jolie will give you your best skin & hair guaranteed. Head to Jolieskinco.com/HONEST to try it out for yourself with FREE shipping. And if you don't like it - you can return your Jolie for a full refund within 60 days, no questions asked.Nutrafol - For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first months subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code HONEST.Primal Kitchen - primalkitchen.com/honest to save 20% off your next order with code HONEST at checkout.Simply Pop - Go to cokeurl.com/simplyPOP to find out where you can try Simply Pop!ARMRA - Go to Tryarmra.com/HONEST or enter code HONEST to get 15% off your first order. For more Let's Be Honest, follow along at:@kristincavallari on Instagram@kristincavallari and @dearmedia on TikTokLet's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari on YouTubeProduced by Dear Media.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This is Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality TV, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Welcome into Let's Be Honest. Today is a very unique episode. First of all, we have Justin Anderson here. I'm back. I'm here.

It's been a minute. It has been a long minute. Why? When was the last time you were on the podcast? I feel like it's been a while. I feel like because we shot your show. It was pre podcast tour. Yeah. So it's been it's been months.

We've missed you. I think we've done a lot of Let's Be be honest, though, for a little while, though. Yeah, we needed to take a break. We were getting into much trouble. No, but it's good to have you back. The people have been asking about you. Oh, thank you. I'm here. Thanks for having me. And this is not my podcast studio. So we are at one of our favorite restaurants in Nashville. We are at a place called Sushi Bar. I've talked about it on the podcast before. It is Amakase style.

So we're gonna take you guys through this. It is a 16 course meal, one piece of sushi each course, and we are doing a sake pairing. So there's no telling what's about to happen. Yeah, we love this place. We thought what better place to do it than at Sushi Bar. We've come here before for New Year's we came here. We got wild that night.

You know we got wild. We were in this room like the rooms are like private. So it's really small. So you're like with a group of people, even if you're not at dinner with them. And we got so loud that night, but they liked it. We turned it up. I feel like we turned it into New Year's.

We brought the energy. We did. Then we came for Sailor's birthday. Oh, Jackson's birthday. Sailor's birthday. Sailor's birthday. Yeah Then we came for Sailor's birthday. Jackson's birthday. Sailor's birthday. We came for Sailor's birthday. We love this spot. And they're all over. But Nashville's the best one. How many locations do you guys have?

Five locations. Miami, right? You've done the Miami one, right? I think so. So anyways, so we are going to do celebrity gossip because that's what you guys seem to always love from Justin and I. Celebrity gossip, but more pop culture, just in general. We were talking about this a lot because I love like pop culture.

And like, I love to keep up on like I like celebrity news, probably because we come from that world and like my world was doing like celebrity hair forever. And like, I think celebrities are fascinated. I think that whole world is kind of fascinating. Not in the way of like, oh my God, I idolize celebrities. But like, I like excitement. I like some drama. You know, it's like a soap opera.

It's like real life happening to people or whatever. So I like to keep up on it way more than Kristin does. And she like gives me a hard time. It's like, how do you know this shit? And I don't know how I know it, but- Well, I know nothing that's going on. Well, I know a little bit. Obviously I don't live under a rock.

Like I know that Katy Perry just went to space. But like other than that, I know the whole like Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni drama to an extent. You don't like really know what's happening. I don't know the details. So we can get there, but let's start with Katy Perry and all these other women supposedly going to space. Do you think there were Earth is flat?

I don't know. That one's no, don't take that ever. That was a little debatable for me, but I definitely do not think we went to the moon. Oh, my. Do you think that we went to the moon? So many people have tried to convince you of this. That was like a movie set and it wasn't real. And like when they start saying it, I kind of have to check out because I don't want to believe it. I don't want to believe that we were that lied to.

Everything is a lie. OK, think about it. I don't really think we would. We did not. Like if you see the footage, it's kind of freaky. But it's also weird that like, haven't we never gone back since? We haven't gone back since. But also, so they had footage of what was the what was the thing called that landed on the moon? There's a name for it. I just did the Space Center Friday with Jackson for a field trip.

You already forgot. I forgot. Also, they were like, here's moon rock. And all the kids were like, you got that on Amazon. Literally was at the Space Center on Friday in Huntsville. And the kids were rousing our our guide. This poor kid. I mean, that's a topic that will get people so fired up because it's like, what was the oh, my gosh, this is so bad right now.

I'm blanky. But what was his name? Who landed on the moon? Armstrong, Neil Armstrong, Neil Armstrong, land on the moon. But even like recently, somebody confronted about it or like a few years ago or something, and he like lost it on the guy. Rather, I don't know why I can't when there's a conspiracy theory, there's something like, why can't someone just logically explain it to people to shut it down? That's when I get thrown off a little bit.

He actually went on talk shows and said it was not real. He did. Yeah, he has come out publicly and said that it was in fact not real. Also, so here's my thing. No, I swear to God, Google it. Can the team Google it. Can the team Google it? But they had footage of whatever that thing was leaving and how they get that footage then

if that was left behind on the moon. Do you know what I'm saying? Also, they made a phone call to the White House from the moon. I can't even get fucking cell service out where I live. I can't even have the internet at my house. We can't do this. There's no way. Okay, so it's a possibility that it didn't happen. It's a possibility. I just don't want to believe it. Okay, so Katy Perry did not go to the moon,

but what was all the conspiracy theories behind that? They said, remember she like opened up the door and then the news cut that out, like when they landed back. So when they were filming the footage, they showed Bezos going to like let the women out of the space shuttle or whatever. And the door is supposed to open out and the door opened in. Like you see the door, you can Google this. This isn't a conspiracy theory. You can Google it. The door comes in and they really quickly shut the door. Yeah. And then he runs over, then he like opens up the door. And the whole idea is that like something went up to space like that because of the pressure,

you need like the pressure to hold the door shut, you know, or it could be vice versa. It's either going out or going in, but it totally messed up on camera. And it's all over the internet. Like you can look it up. But then so they had that. So people were like, did it really go up there if the door is not even opening the right way? And it wasn't actually sealed tight, you know, because when it when they accidentally opened in, they shut it really quick. Yeah. And they cut all that out of the news. It was all over the Internet. You can find on the Internet. Yeah.

But then you see him come running over like he's the superhero and he like has to unwind the door, whatever, to open it, to unlock it. Yeah, bro. It was just open. It just opened on its own. So that kind of like set people off or whatever. They didn't technically go into space. It's like they just broke through like the vortex or whatever. But I think the thing that was so ridiculous is like the world.

It feels like it's on fire right now. Like everyone's just like struggling with things or complaining about things. Like people have it really hard. People are talking about they can't afford life, whatever. And then you have these women just going up to space for like five minutes. Yeah. For millions of dollars. And they were trying to act like it up to space for like five minutes. Yeah. For millions of dollars. And they were trying to act like it was some sort of like empowerment thing. We did this woman power.

It's for like girls. And I love women power. And I think women should rule the world. But like, that's embarrassing. Like you, you sat in a space, you and you shot up to the sky. They had like perfect hair done. That was embarrassing. I know. Like their hair was like perfectly flowing. And Katy Perry's like singing. Her daisy, her little daisy that she had.

So I think it was just one of those things that completely backfired. I think they thought everyone was gonna be like, oh my God, this is so rad. This is so inspiring. It's so incredible. But everyone was like, this is so unnecessary and like stupid and embarrassing.

Also, I don't know if there's any credibility to this, but I heard that if you have implants, they would burst in space. So Jeff Bezos wife cannot go in space. I can't either. No way because of the pressure. That's what I've heard. I mean, no, but I bet inside of a spaceship or whatever, you're pressurized. Oh, that's true. You know, it's not like, imagine they all just pop. Oh, I'm sure. Pressurized. Oh, that's true. You know, it's not like I imagine they all just pop. It's all pop, pop, pop, pop.

And Jeff Bezos wife, I mean, her whole body. Her whole body was popping. That woman is frighteningly looking. Not now. Here comes our first sushi. Oh, here comes our first sushi. This is going to be hard for us. Try to stay quiet. Also eating and doing a podcast, pulling out the best idea.

I don't think about that. We're going to do first. Thank you. So this Also, eating and doing a podcast. I know the best idea. I think about that. We're going to do first. Thank you. So this is our bluefin tuna tartar. We're going to do three different cuts of the Spanish bluefin that we get in. So in this mix, there's some preserved radish, spring onions, some freshly braised wasabi that is coming out of half of the Bay of California. Then a very nice crunch factor from some bitter brissel or pop just like popcorn. It has been laid inside a leaf of shiso.

It's a nice little aromatic note of mint and basil and then wrapped inside with crispy chicanor to finish it off. What did you say came from California? Katy Perry's backyard is in her garden, her organic garden. It's actually a hydroponically grown out in Halibaba, California. garden. Oh wow. That's so good. Haku and Beis amazing. There's amazing surfing there.

I think there's like one of the biggest surf spots in California. Oh, this is sexy eating sushi on camera. Thank you. You're very welcome. All right. What's this Daniel? It is Hakatsuru Aoyuki. It's a fun, sparkling sake.

It comes out of the Hyogo Prefecture of Japan. This one is dangerously drinkable. Nickname is bubbly snow package and even the style emblematic of its flavor, kind of fun, light, cheers. There's a little aromatics to the palette. Bubbly snow, bubbly snow, personality. This looks so good. Hmm. I thought the funniest thing about the whole like, yeah, spatial. This looks so good. Mm hmm.

I thought the funniest thing though about the whole like young space, that's really good. Whoa, I want to write that down. She got a little kick to her. That's so sweet with a good dangerously. What do you say? Yeah, it really is.

It's like, wow, I love that. I want that. I'm going to drink this all summer. Every day. Mom was always there. Wait, but the last thing I want to say about the Katy Perry thing, like the rocket ship thing is like Katy Perry cannot catch a break. All right, guys, let's take a quick moment here to talk about Quince.

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promo code honest. That's neutrophil.com promo code honest. We, I think we've always known that she was like kind of the biggest nerd ever. I've worked with her. She was nice enough, but she's a geek. Like she's like totally dorky. Like it's not, she's not growing into anything. It's like she's still doing that same personality. It's like, it's not working anymore. And she kind of plays into it. Like she's like part of the joke, but she's not, you know, it's kind of like, no, people are really like kind of laughing at this point.

You did her hair. I'd burnt her hair off. Not only did I do her hair, I burnt her hair off. I've told this story so many times, so sorry. Not on this podcast. I know, not on this podcast. She had come to me. I was like known as like the blonde guy in Hollywood.

Like I could make anybody blonde and I could keep their hair really healthy and make them really blonde. So people would always send me people's hair if it was fried or if they were trying to go blonde for the first time and they were really, really dark. Katie was trying to go blonde. So she had gone to somebody else and they couldn't quite get it there. So they were like, you have to go to Justin Anderson. He'll for sure take you. He'll take you there. So she came in to me and I met her, her hair was busted. Cause remember she had like that black hair forever and it was like black hair dyed over and over.

So to go from that to blonde. What's her natural color? It's dark, like a dark brown. But to go from that like dyed black hair to platinum blonde is like virtually impossible. So when she came into me, they had been bleaching it over and over and her hair was like crisp.

And I told her, I was like, Katie, your hair will break off, like if we do anything to it. So I was very honest about it, but she was like, let's just push it. And I was like, I mean, there's a slight chance that I can do it. And I always had so much confidence with my skills

because like I really was good at getting people so blonde. So, but I told her, I'm like, your hair is gonna break off. And she's like, what if we just like risk it? Let's see if we can do it over. So she was totally, she knew that we were like on like in like murky waters or whatever. Her hair was about to her shoulders almost, almost. And it was like this like apricot color.

Like it was so bad. So I went in late at night because she was so fucking late to her appointment. Late at night, I had three assistants there. It's like 11 o'clock at night. We start the project. I do a full head of foils, like tiny back to back foils. Like every single piece of her hair was in a foil to go blonder. And I use like the most gentle bleach that you could use. And I actually thought it wasn't going to do enough.

I was like, OK, I'm being really safe. It's going to pull it slightly there. I might have to do it one more time. Put it in. As I got to the top of her head, all the foils in the back just started falling out, falling out, like meaning literally breaking off at the room. No, it was so bad. And my assistant like started tapping me on the arm.

And I look over there just like dropping. So I'm like, hey, let's go up to the shampoo bowl. So we go up there. We start rinsing out. She like looks at me and she's like, my hair is falling out. No, and I was like, Katie, your hair is totally falling out. Oh, my God. It was the big she was like, Katie, your hair is totally falling out. Oh my God. It was the big, she was so cool after she ended up calling the medics, she kept coming to me.

Cause then that's when she got the blonde pixie cut, that really short pixie cut. Oh yeah. She kept coming back to me. Every time she came into me, I would get diarrhea. Cause I was like so nervous. Like it like made the worst, it was the worst experience of my life.

Cause I- So she had hair on top still for that pixie? She had like longer hair on top, but the back was like shaved at the back and then a little bit longer on the top. Whoa. It was bad. Like in the sense that like it was the worst experience for a hairdresser to ever deal with. Like that night I was driving home and I was like, I want to drive off.

I bet I felt so bad. But she called the next day and she's like, you told me you said upfront, you were like, your hair is going to break. And I was the one who was like, let's just try it. Yeah. So it was kind of like an experiment type thing. But anyways, I was responsible. Fun for you. Yeah.

So for our first part of the evening, we have Shima Aji or Tribali. This is a firm texture flesh fish, with a very subtle sweetness to it. So it's going to get a little sweeter the longer you chew on it. Garnished with the zest and juice of the Meyer lemon and then a bright fermentation of Fresno chilies to help awaken your palate for the rest of the night. Wow. Thank you. I want to point out to anyone who's watching that we are supposed to be eating with our fingers. Oh, yeah. Good call.

Or just imagine the YouTube comments. Good call. Just imagine the YouTube comments. Good call. They're animals. Oh that's so good. That is really good. I like that a lot. That kick of lemon is so good. My only experience with Katy Perry I actually forgot but well. You hooked up with her? No. So it's so funny because you and I, for honestly Cavallari, we were just searching in my boxes of clothes for the VMA dress that I wore. This like vintage sparkly dress. It's like one of the only dresses that I have from an event or anything over the years. But I kept this dress and actually I think it was my kids. Katy Perry came up in conversation and I was like no I don't think I've ever met her and my kids were like there's a picture of you with her on

the internet and I was like wait what? So they googled it Katy and I were really similar dresses to the VMAs in probably 2009 2008 or 2009 and so we took a photo together on the red carpet. I had completely forgotten about it but I just found that dress. You and I couldn't find that dress. And I was hanging up all my clothes. Why were we searching for that? I was gonna potentially wear it on my podcast tour. That would've been so cute. It would've been, but we didn't find it.

No, so I found it the other day. You did? Uh-huh. Where was it? Not in those boxes? No, it was. We just didn't see it. I finally hung up all of my clothes in my closet. Do you remember how she was with you? She was really nice from what I remember. Really nice, yeah.

She's an interesting character. As are most people in Hollywood. But she does this one thing that and I really do want to say that she was nice to me, she was very nice to me, but she does this one thing that always like throws me off that people do. You know, when you meet someone and they'll kind of point at someone, something about you almost to make you like, you know, have you ever had a friend like who you come in like, oh, fancy.

Yeah. So it's like immediately to put you kind of on garb or you're like, OK, did I overdress? Do I look like I can't stand when people do that? Right. So years before I did Katie's hair, I went to a party. I think it was at her house. I went to a party at her house with a friend, walked up to meet her. And I wear a lot of jewelry. Right. I was wearing like my love bracelets at the time when the love bracelets were so cool. And she immediately went like this,

she went, ooh, three love bracelets. She's like, somebody's rich. Like that in front of like a group of people. And like, first of all, what do you say to that? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do really well for myself. Or like, you know, like whatever. And then she, she said to me, she was like, what family do you come from? You come from a rich family. It was like the most bizarre interaction. Right. So I remember walking away from that being like, that's so annoying to ask somebody like that.

Like, I hate when people do that, like put you on the spot like that. Because what are you ever supposed to say when someone's like, you look fancy or like, I know rich, nice watch, you know, like you don't know what to say. Yeah. So then listen to this. Years later, she comes in to do my hair like it's the first time we've ever met before, walks in, sits in my chair and literally like, oh, fancy bracelet. No, she's like three love bracelet. No, I was like, oh, bitch, so that's your thing.

Like you when you meet someone, it's kind of I think to put someone in their place. I think it's a major insecurity thing. And I wonder if she has any idea that she does this. But the fact that she did it to me the two times that I met her, I'm like, oh, that's your thing. I remember meeting you at a party. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like, yeah, a really quick meeting. There was like a bunch of people there or whatever. But she came back in and when she sat in my chair was the first thing she said to me. And to me, because I was around so many of those kinds of people for so long, and you were too, like there's certain personality types, like, I don't know, either people are really lovely and they're warm or like, but people a lot

of times have like these weird quirks that they'll do with everyone. So sometimes people say like, have you met so-and-so? And it's like, yeah, they're like, oh, did she do blah, blah? Like they have a thing about them. And with Katie, I think it's a massive insecurity. And I think it's to immediately put someone in their place. It's to make her feel better about herself. Yeah. It's to like make her feel better than you. And almost to kind of like set the hierarchy or something. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like to like know your place.

That stuff grosses me out. Same. Like I think it's such an insecurity like- 100%. Me too. That's gross. Okay. We have another one. All right, guys. So for this vibe we have Madai. This is a Japanese red sea green garnished with a brushing of a ponzu sauce of a maiden house of some black Australian winter truffles.

And then just like finely shaved piece of truffle. We finish it. That is my favorite so far. I think I like that one last time, too. That truffle. Truffle is so good. Do you know what it smells like? You're about to tell me. What?

It smells like a jockstrap a little bit. Which I think is hot. I wouldn't know. I've never smelled a jockstrap. I love truffle so much that's probably what it is. That's really funny. Every gay man loves a truffle. Alright, well that's Katy Perry. What else is going on in the. All right. Well, that's Katy Perry. Yeah, that is Katy Perry.

What else is going on in the world right now? Oh, well, the Blake Lively and... I did see that Taylor Swift just got subpoenaed. Oh, how happy that might be. No, honestly, I thought it was bullshit. Well, I saw what her lawyer said that was like, she had to license her song that they used in the movie along with 19 other artists and Taylor Swift is the one being subpoenaed like you you could use any of the other ones

was because garnered attention yeah to garner attention but also know but they're friends though they're friends and Blake threw her under the bus Blake wrote a letter to Justin Baldoni it's between the two of them technically from this movie. It ends with us. And Blake wrote him like a text message referencing Taylor Swift and Taylor being like kind of like her dragons. It was the gayest thing I've ever heard. She was like, my dragons, like Ryan and Taylor. So she basically brought Taylor into it. So they're subpoenaed. I think it's such a bummer. You know, I'm a massive Taylor Swift fan. I have met her in person. I think she's a wonderful person. I think Taylor really does like get bamboozled by bad people.

I think Taylor gets excited about new friends. Like, and I think that... Like she's too nice. She's too nice. And the thing is, it's like, cause okay, cause here's the thing people will say to me, they're like, Justin, you love Taylor Swift so much, but I can't stand Blake Lively for reasons.

Like I have reasons why I cannot stand the woman. And I've heard it for years. And I always say in Hollywood, if you hear it over and over that someone is an absolute nightmare, at some point it's going to come out. So when this whole thing came out about Blake Lively, there wasn't even a part of it. It was like, oh my God. I was like, oh, of course. Like I've been hearing about it for years from really, from people who are really, really

close to her. Like it's a known thing, like in the beauty world, you know, makeup artists, hairdressers. Yeah, everyone who's on sets and stuff. Everybody's always talked about what a nightmare she is. So it's going to come out at some point. But people are like, you don't like Blake so much. How can you like Taylor if she's like her best friend? I'm like, I don't think that means anything.

I think also in Hollywood, there's a hierarchy thing. Taylor is the much more famous one in that friendship. So Blake is kissing Taylor's ass all the time. So Taylor's seen the best version of Blake. Oh, yeah. That's such a good point. Yeah. Blake's never going to be an asshole to Taylor because she needs something from Taylor. So and I think for Taylor, I think Taylor is arguably

one of the most famous women in the world. But she's probably the most famous woman in the world. Yeah. But everyone's nice to Taylor. So Taylor could leave any situation like, oh, my gosh, they were so lovely. And you're like, yeah, they were lovely. But because they're going to be nice to Taylor. So Taylor could leave any situation like, Oh my gosh, they were so lovely. And you're like, yeah, they were lovely. But because they're going to be nice to Taylor. And all my years and like being around those really famous women and I would see them like at parties or I'd go to their house for like a dinner and I would look around like the way that people treat the most famous person in a

room is so wild. So you can't go off of that because the most famous person in any situation could be friends with everyone because everyone's going to be nice. Yeah, exactly. They're not seeing the real person. So I think that Taylor got bamboozled by Blake. Blake's an apple. So you don't think they're friends anymore?

I think this will end it. I think that Taylor is also one of those people like once you cross that line, she will, you're done. Like she'll be done with you. Like Taylor is smart. She's not going to let somebody like tarnish her reputation. I was going to say, I feel like it's all about her image right now. And she doesn't want to be dragged into this in a friendship.

Like they're supposedly supposed to be best friends. But I also think when you have two people that are that famous, how close can they be? It's like you see each other a few times a year. It's not like mining yours. I agree. Yeah. You know, but I think with what happened to them, like I would never pull you into an argument that I was having even with just another friend.

I would never be like, well, Kristen said it, too. I know. Just because then I know that people would now associate you with that. But she pulled into like a lawsuit. Like imagine if I got in trouble with a lawsuit and I pulled you into my lawsuit. I know. And you're like, Justin, I'm fucking being subpoenaed. I know. The last thing that you would want to do is sit on trial in front of people. So I think their friendship is done. God, I know that's actually such a good point. I want to talk to you guys about Primal Kitchen,

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Hachidori, loosely translated Japanese is hummingbird. Oh. It was actually an American who flies over to Japan and makes this sake three months out of the year. Just came into the U.S. at the end of December and the Japanese view hummingbirds as these mythical creatures because they hover. And so this American being able to go over there and make the sake also kind of impossible. Wow. That's really good. That's really good. I just already tried it. With our next bite. So this is a Kami. It's gonna be the leanest portion of the bukun tuna

located up back by the spine. Yum. It's part of that fast twitch muscle group that allows the 500 to 600 pound of the jujube to swim at speed of 10. She's a swimmer. So I've brushed it with a boutique tomorrow and then finished it off with a dehydrated red miso

and everything based. Wow. That is so good. Like insane. Wow. That is so good. Like insane. Wow. Wow. Do you say the elitist or elitist? The elitist.

The elitist. The elitist piece of fish. I was like, fish calm down. The elitist. Oh my God. You know that you say sake, sake. Sake. Right?

Sake. But I always feel like it's like Portia and Porsche. I always feel like a douche sake sake right sake. I always feel it's like Porsche and Porsche. I was like a douche when I said sake. Oh, Porsche. I could not do that. I know even if I had 10 Porsches, I would never be like Porsche. I would never know. But also like where do you draw the line, though, because it's like also people who are like, I'm going to go get a kiss at the end.

I'm going to get that burrito. You know, Yeah, I'm going to go get that burrito. You know, they do. They say yes. No, because people don't think that the Spanish language, unfortunately, is fancy, which is a beautiful language. I'm going to go get a croissant. The croissant. Do you say that? I'm going to go to Ibiza. I would punch you in the neck if you said that. I know. If you start saying Ibiza.

I can't. It's so embarrassing. It's so embarrassing. Because if you're speaking one language, you can't switch it into another one for one word. That's weird. Like you can't do that. You have to stick it all the way through. Agreed.

If you're speaking your Americanized English language, you've got to just stick with it. Yeah, I agree. You're not eating a burrito. A burrito. I've got to just stick with it. Yeah, I agree. You're not even a burrito. I've never heard anyone say burrito. Yes, you have. An American? No. Well, no, maybe not. That's not like Porsche and Porsche. Yeah, but Ibiza Ibiza.

What about Haley Baldwin or Hillary about her name? So I like Baldwin's wife. Her name is Hillary. Her name is Hillary. She Baldwin's wife, her name is Hillary. Her name is Hillary. She's from Boston. Her name is Hillary. And she goes by Hilaria. And she does not have an accent at all. What was the word?

She was like, what do you call it? A cucumber. Como se dice? Como se dice? Cucumber. Cucumber. Oh, it's so bad. That's like a that's a that's a personality disorder.

Yeah, that's like That's a personality disorder. Yeah, that's like. That's a mental disorder. One day she's gonna be walking down the street like kookumberlater. She's gonna be like. Kookumberlater. She's not well.

Oh my God, no, literally though. Wait, okay, but you started saying Haley Bieber. Let's talk about the Bieber drama. I'm worried about Justin Bieber. Actually, it brings me to heart. This is the one thing that Kristen likes to talk about. I do, this is the only celebrity gossip I care about. It's like the one crossover of the celebrities for your kids and us.

My kids love Justin Bieber. They also love Hailey Bieber too. I love Hailey. She's my girl crush. And I know I've heard not good things about her, but I do. I love her. Yeah, I did her hair. I don't want to say anything bad. I really, I love her. Yeah, I did her hair. I don't want to say anything bad.

I really, really liked her. I think that they're in like a tricky situation because those Selena fans are just brutal. I loved her album, though. This new album is amazing. It's so good. And I will say, like, that's what I love about TikTok is how they break everything down.

I'm all in on that drama. I believe everything I read, too, about Selena's album. The song Forgotten. Oh, 100 percent about it has to be. But even like some of the people online will be like, no, she said that it's not. Well, of course, she's going to say, you know, what do you think? She's going to come out and she's also doing it for. Yeah, it is about it's about that.

I got to be honest with you. Musicians have it so good because they can always get the last word and say whatever the fuck they want to say. And they're like, it's art. I'm writing a song about it. Yeah. It's like, oh, but if I talk about it, people like, shut the fuck up. You should write an album.

I want to start writing Haikus. Riddle's by Crayon Larry. That could be your next book. It's just all poems to call out all the bad people. But it is really true, though. I mean, that's how musicians will get off the test. Also going back to Taylor Swift, I mean, she's always talked about all of her breakups and everyone gets so mad when a girl does it. That's what it is. There is. And I'm not going to say I'm not a feminist, but I am a feminist in a lot of ways, but there's such a double standard, I will say, with guys and girls.

Guys can go and talk about women and do whatever the fuck they want, but as soon as a girl does it, they're like, oh my God, they get so mad. It's so weird. It's so dumb. But women do it a lot. Like, they get mad about Taylor with that.

Women get mad at women for it. Yeah, when I talk about how much I love Taylor, I'll get DMs on Instagram with people being like, I just can't stand Taylor. And I love to ask why, because I'm so curious. Like, why do you not like her? I just don't like how she talks about her love life. Like, why we don't need to hear about your exes.

I'm like, you realize that every song we've ever listened to is about an ex. It's about someone. They're all stories about people's exes or whatever. But I get that she triggers something in a lot of people, whatever. Well, the thing is, no matter who you are, you can't please everybody. I mean, like, that's the thing. You cannot. You cannot.

Do not even try. Don't even try it. I mean, like that's the thing. You cannot. You cannot. Don't even try. Don't even try it. Just find your crew and cater to them. I'm not trying to please you. So we have Hotate. This is a sea salad from the Sea of Hope, just north of Hokkaido, Japan. So for this piece, I've lightly seared it and then melted a seaweed compound butter

over the top for one of the most prestigious butter houses in Britain. Oh, yeah. It's called Maison 48. Oh, I was thinking of something else. I was thinking of something else. I was thinking of something else. I was thinking of something else. I was thinking of something else.

I was thinking of something else. I was thinking of something else. I was thinking of something else. I was thinking of something else. I was thinking of something else. I was thinking of something else. I was thinking of something else. I a seaweed compound butter over the top from one of the most prestigious butter houses in Britain. Oh yeah! It's called Maison 48. Oh I was thinking of something else. They used 18th century technique. They do everything by hand. They locally source all the product for it including the seaweed that is found on the beaches there. Wow. And they're just finishing this off with some pannajo or purple shiso lobsters.

Wow. What was the butter here that you told me about? That's what I was thinking. Or is it here? No, you can buy that butter here. Oh, that's okay. It is the same butter. Yeah. It's still in the bottom, but I will.

One of these days. Mmm. Oh my God. So good. They just keep getting better and better. That is so good. That's my favorite so far. Did you do the little zzz on it?

The char thing? I love that touch. And when that torch comes So did you do a little on it? The char thing. I love that torch. And when that torch comes out, you know, you can get some flavor. I'm gonna get that little torch from my house. I don't do it for s'mores every night. Every night.

That'd be a good dessert. A s'mores dessert with the torch. Yeah, I actually feel really bad for the whole Haley and Justin situation because he's not doing well. He doesn't know what anyone says. No, he does not look good.

It makes me nervous. Also. Well, my thing too is like, okay, they're obviously married. They just had a baby together. Could you imagine being in a relationship and everyone is shitting on your relationship and saying that your husband doesn't even like you? You know what I mean? Like, I don't feel like she's doing better than he is though.

Why is it not expecting her? She seems like she's on cloud nine, but he like just really seems like he's going through something deep and I think it has something to do with the Diddy thing. I was just gonna say, do you think it's the Diddy stuff? Justin Bieber saw the ugliest side of Hollywood, I think. I mean, I think he kind of did the whole Michael Jackson,

Corey Feldman, like he fell into all of that stuff. Like when a kid is in Hollywood at that young of an age and they're such a star and everyone wants a piece of him. That's sick. Yeah, sick. Yeah, he knows obviously everything that went on. I think he was there, he was part of it. That whole trial.

What is going on with that? I haven't heard anything about the Diddy stuff. The thing that makes me so mad is like, you know that I like watched every second of the Johnny Depp trial, like every second. Like mad is like, you know that I like watched every second of the Johnny Depp trial, like every second. Like literally watched the whole thing guys. Like watched the whole trial, like all day long I watched it.

And I was hoping that they were gonna do it with Diddy and Diddy's isn't gonna be live. It's always something to do with like the jurisdiction, I believe that you're in. And I think like California has certain laws, New York has certain laws that you can't film in. And like- What state are they in? California, right?

I think it's gonna be in California. So it's not gonna be filmed, but they're like leaking things that are happening every single day. Is it going on right now? Yeah, it already started. Oh, I had no idea. So they already picked the jurors.

Today was like- Oh my God, I wanna be a juror on now. Would you die? Oh my God, you literally picked me. I would pay half of my savings account to be on that jury. I would love to be on it, but I think they just started today and they're kind of like starting to get into like the details of it all.

But I mean, it's so nasty. Like that one we've talked about before, like it makes me feel so dirty. Like the stuff that was going on there. And did he's a dirty, dirty bird? Like he was doing some nasty shit. Like, you know, he was with Cassie, that beautiful, oh, I know. Yeah. Stunning, beautiful. Right. And these guys, they find the most beautiful girl or whatever.

Beautiful boy, whatever they do. And they just like do nasty things to them. Like he was hiring hookers to have sex with her. Yeah. And like he would like watch like these guys like fuck her in front of him. So fucked up. And she's the one who filed a complaint. Right. Yeah. And they have the video of her running down the hallway. Yes, I've seen it in the hotel and he like throws her down. But already. OK, here's the thing that's going to piss me off

so much about this is already he's has like insane lawyers, like really good lawyers, of course, of course, like the best that money can buy. Right. And they're already coming in with all of these excuses about why certain things were leaked and what it actually meant. Like, what what was all the baby oil for? What are they saying? I'll get into that later. I remember I called it out.

I was like, yeah, that's not baby oil. Yeah. Told you guys. Oh, that is beautiful. Hope we get a shot of that. I love that smell. What age did you start eating sushi at? Oh, young.

Cause being in California, I mean, I must that smell. What age did you start eating sushi at? Oh, young, because being in California, I mean, I must have been. It was like a California thing. Yeah, like that's just what you do. Like in elementary school, we had kids who would bring up bento box for their lunch. My kids will, by the way, my kids eat sushi.

Yeah, but like Scoot hadn't seen, my partner Scoot grew up in Ohio and he hadn't seen sushi till he moved to LA. Yeah, no, it's a California thing for sure. No, I mean, I was eating it all the time. But what I was saying about the Diddy and the Diddy trial, what's going to piss me off so much is seeing how these really expensive, good lawyers are going to twist things.

Like, that's why I'm so fascinated with court trials. Like right now, there's another trial, the Karen Reedy trial, and I'm watching every single second. So I'm retired, you guys. I don't have a job. We literally I didn't hear from him all day the other day. And then he was like, sorry, I've been watching this trial. I'm in court. I was in court. Chris and I talk all day long.

And the other day, like, literally, I didn't respond for like eight hours. Sorry, like I just got out of court or whatever, because I'm literally every second of what I'm watching it. And I'm so fascinated by by watching people knowingly lie. So you have one lawyer who's defending the liar or the guilty one. Do they know that they're lying? I think most lawyers know in certain cases,

and then they just have to do everything they can to try to get people off for reasonable doubt. Or there's no way you could actually prove that this person is guilty. So they try to find all these loopholes. And to me, I get it. I understand like the way the justice system works, but like that's so dirty to me.

Could you imagine trying to lit like, your client hurt someone so bad and you were lying through your teeth to like get them off the hook. I know, I know, like you just sleep with yourself. I was like, O, J. Simpson. Yeah. And so I think the thing that's going to be so hard about the Diddy thing is watching the things that they're going to say, because they're already saying with Cassie, there's footage of Cassie running down the hall and did he chase her

and then he's punching her, throws her down on the ground or whatever. And they're already coming out and being like, what you don't see is that Cassie was attacking him already. Oh, that makes it OK for him to do that. First of all, does that make it OK? And then also, so she's the attacker and then she's running from him and he's chasing her. So like that doesn't even make sense. But like they're already the way that they're trying to spin certain things

is going to be so disgusting. And I think here's the thing, too, is like because of social media and all of us paying so much attention now, like we want justice. I feel like there's so there's so few things like in our lives that we feel like we have control over, right? Our own families and everything we do, but in like the big part of America, like we want to start seeing bad people go down.

And that's what people are fed up with, like all these like fucking weirdos who do weird things to children, like all the like, there's so much creepy, so many creepy things that are happening these people have gotten away with for so long, Epstein, all of that bullshit the like, there's so much creepy, so many creepy things that are happening. These people have gotten away with for so long, Epstein, all of that bullshit that like, we want to see these people thrown in jail.

We want to see them pay for what they've done. And I think this thing with Diddy, if he gets off or if they find a way to get him off, like I would want to riot. Like that's something I would want to riot about. Well, you bring up Epstein, what about Eileen Maxwell? Like whatever happened with her child? Like that just kind of went away, didn't it?

It kind of went away. I mean, she's in jail. She is in jail. Yeah, she's in jail. Yeah, but remember everyone was like, we want to see all the names. Like we want to know who was there. And that never-

They'll never let it out. They'll never let it out. I know. They'll never let it out because the names are on both sides. Everybody wants it to be like one side is like bad. But don't you think P Diddy is going to be similar? Do you think that's why it's not live and they're not broadcasting it because there's more people involved?

I think they're nervous about the people who are going to come out. I think that that's probably why I'm sure and Mueller getting divorced. And like certain people, they were just a stagecoach. They're fine. They were. That wasn't real. Yeah. Well, I'm sure it's causing some drama in the relationship. If it's real. But I think there's a lot of people also. And we've talked about this, too.

Like if Diddy's having these nasty parties, just because these celebrities are there, it doesn't mean that they're like rolling around in baby oil. You know, like. But I think like a lot of the police officers in LA and stuff were involved too. Oh, like getting paid off. Yeah, that's what I think too.

Police corruption is gnarly. It's real. And the sad thing about that is it's like, I love the police, I love law enforcement. Like I love, no, I do, I feel like, feel so safe. I feel I love the fact that we can like call and be taken care of. But like when you start thinking about corruption in that world, that scares the shit out of me. I know. Like that's what the whole Karen Reed trip trials about right now is like when you really pay attention, you see like all the

corruption that was happening with the police officers and the detectives behind the scenes. It makes you feel so unsafe because you think about if it happened to one of us and people were hiding evidence to make us look guilty. Like imagine if you were accused of a murder that you know that you didn't do and all these police are trying to frame you. What could you do? Well, you would get like all of your fans

and your followers behind you. But like for the normal person, it's a really, that's why this case is such a big deal and why I'm so fascinated by it, because it's like, I love justice. I love the truth coming out. Like I like live for that shit. I was saying you should have been like a, not a lawyer, but like. I would have loved to have been a lawyer. Yeah. Like, oh, I told you, I was like, it's not too late. You can go to law school.

I love to call out liars on their bullshit though. Like I love to get to the bottom. You and I are liars on their bullshit though. I love to get to the bottom. You and I are a real similar in that way. I love to get to the bottom. I hate liars so much. You know, like I hate liars. Why do you think that is? Thank you. Not that anyone likes a liar. Not that anyone likes a liar, but like, I don't know.

I was talking to Scoot about it the other day. Like why it bothers me so much. I just don't like dishonest people. That's how I am too. Do you think it was like your childhood? I don't know. I was trying to think of like, what would have kind of triggered it when I was younger?

No, I think about people who are like the victim of something. I think like I grew up in a really weak family and sometimes like I would get blamed by things by like my older cousins or like my older brother and stuff. And I didn't feel like I had a voice to protect myself or I didn't know how to at that point. I'm all about the underdog. Like, I hate when somebody who doesn't have a big voice is being pushed down by somebody who has a bigger voice. And like the older I get, not that

I have some huge voice, but I feel like I have power in my own life or whatever. But like when I see people get pushed down and they're good people, it like pisses me off so much. I don't know. Yeah, because you're an empath. You're a good person. Yes. You're a little. What's this next one? Change the subject. So you have five to do by that.

Ginger that comes out of the Yama Prefecture. It's the former cellar master of Don Prenon for 26. Oh, cool. Fell in love with Sake traveling to Japan and started. He actually polishes all the rest. He's down to 35 percent. So we passed the minimum requirement for doing years. Oh cool. Fell in love with sake traveling to Japan and started IWA. He actually polishes all the rice grains down to 35%. So way past the minimum requirement for Jumeirah Ginjo and then blends it together kind of in the same style as you would make a champagne

because he was a master champagne maker. Whoa. Cool. So the complexity of this is absolutely insane. I was actually just there at the brewery a couple months ago. Oh fun. Snow covered mountains and this brewery is like virtual land sites. Whoa. Cool. We should go there. Let's go. Let's just brewery is like, whoa, cool.

We should go there. Let's go. Let's get wasted. Let's go. Oh, really? Wait, so this is like in the Dom Perignon family. From the original seller master. Oh, my. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's going to be that sake.

We have our next bite. This is going to be a machi, also known as yellow. Finish off with a puree of black garlic and go to from into jalapeno. A little bit of fresh squeezed yuzu juice and then a little bit of micro cilantro. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Mm hmm. What is thank you in Japanese? I donato? No, that's hello, right? How do you say thank you in Japanese? Oh yeah! What good morning! Oh, it's tough. Ohayo. Ohayo, yes it is! Ohayo gozaimasu. Okay, because I grew up like half of my life was in Hawaii,

my grandparents lived in Hawaii and like a lot of Hawaii is Japanese. And so we would always say that when we like go on the hikes, we would see the Japanese people, like a lot of Japanese tourists would be like, oh, how's it going? I love saying that. Oh, my God. That was really good. Might be my favorite. Really? I don't know. Maybe. You're easily persuaded. I know everyone. I'm like that.

Yeah I love that one. You loved the thing. Hota Te. Mdai. Orarita. Which one? What's her name? Singer. Who? Orarita. What's her name? Oh Rita Ora. Rita Ora. Oh backwards. Rita Ora. Rita Ora. Oh, backwards. Ha ha ha. Ora Rita. I did her hair. She was really nice.

Oh my God. I can feel this socket. I can too. I know. And you know what's funny? Well, I'm so embarrassed that I'm like doing all of these like celebrity stories, but like to anybody who's like doesn't know who I like,

I did hair. They know who you are. No, I know, I know, but maybe they check in, you know, you might have new listeners or new tune in people, you know? That's true. Maybe they're just browsing YouTube and they're like, who are these little cuties eating sushi? But I did hair forever.

So when I'm talking about the celebrity stuff, like I'm talking about like personal stories that I've had. I'm not trying to name brag or name drop. Name brag. But wait, what I like when you tell like your funny stories for like people that you've met. People that I've met? Well, okay, we talked about the VMAs earlier

with Katy Perry. So this is actually a great story. It says what an amazing person Nellie Furtado is. I love her. I love her. So I sat next to her. Well, I presented with her actually, but I also sat next to her.

And I remember she looked at me. And by the way, I was probably, if this was like 2008 or so, but I had just gotten on the hills and she looked at me and by the way, I was probably if this was like 2008 or so, but I had just gotten on the hills and she looked at me and she was like, you look so good. She was like, do not lose any more weight. And I were being like, Oh, that's really sweet. And what year was that ish? Probably 2007 or 2008.

So in the crazy times of skinny. Skinny. I also think it's really important for young girls in Hollywood to hear that. And I did. I went and got too fucking skinny. I didn't listen to her. True Kristin fashion. Yeah, I was like, no. But I thought that was really cool. She was honestly- But it stood out to you even at the time. It stood out to me and she was one of the coolest, most down to earth women that I have met. You know who else was really cool? Because I think it's important to talk about the cool,

normal ones- I agree. As much as the horrible ones. Fergie was fucking awesome. Normal, cool. She performed. I did this. Remember Victoria's Secret Pink? Remember that brand? In Chicago, I did an event and she performed and she just backstage just wanted to like kick it and hang out. My mom was with me and she was just normal, like no ego whatsoever. I've always heard that she's really cool. But I actually think that is such an important thing because like anytime I ever do like a podcast or any sort of thing I'm gonna talk about Hollywood celebrities, everyone's like, who's the nasty. Yeah. And to be honest, like out of all the people that I worked with in all those years, I loved all of them. Like, I had really good relationships. But I'm still friends with so many of these women. I like love them. And that's why the really bad ones really stood out to me. I feel like you always just hear these stories like, oh, so and so is nasty or whatever.

But like, there's wonderful people who just happen to be. That's what I mean. I think it's important to shout out the good people too. So, yeah, especially women. Yeah, they get the bad rap. They really do. Well, I feel like we like gave them a lot. And I feel like if I keep drinking, we're going to say I know me too. So let's be done.

All right. Thank you guys. We love you. You're done.