Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - The Cabal Is Trying to Silence Me!

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

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The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This is Let's Be Honest with Kristen Cavallari, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality TV, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Welcome in, guys. How we doing? Justin is here. I'm back baby. Thank you for gracing us with your presence. Of course. We have espresso shots at 1230. Yeah, we're gonna get jacked up. I hope I can sleep tonight. I can never sleep when I drink coffee past noon. You're a little pussy. I'm such a fucking pussy. Past noon and it's 1223 currently as we tape this. I could do

espresso and then just pass out. I'm so jealous of the people who can do that. Yeah. It's called ADHD. I think it because it's thing too, like when I used to take Adderall, like I could take Adderall and take a nap. Like it makes me focus on taking a nap. So like after dinner, espresso, go home, pass straight out. I hate you. That's like my, in my perfect world, I would have an espresso post dinner. By the way, in high school, I would take Adderall and be up for like three days straight. It affects me so much. You are the opposite of ADHD, though. Like you are so hyper focused. Like you actually need someone to like be take a wire out of your brain. Yeah. No, please. So Kristen is so like focused to detail and like the biggest planner in the world. And that's such a good reason why we're like friends because you plan so well. I like want to just show up everywhere and think

I can get into every restaurant. And by the way, I'm doing this currently. I'm planning our New York trip right now. I was on the phone for a fucking hour. I'm not exaggerating. I'm just listening to their music, waiting for the polo bar to pick up their phone. And then he sent me the contact. I was like, God damn it. I just wasted an hour of my life. You fact that you're just sitting on the phone, like waiting to try and get a dinner. Like I would never. And by the way, I have an assistant now too. And I'm just like cleaning up my house while I'm on the phone. Are you actually going to use your assistant? The last assistant that she had, she didn't have her do anything. You're a micromanager. Ew, you're a micromanager. The problem is I am so, oh my God. Teddy got locked in the guest house.

Get him over there. Teddy, I'll be over in an hour. He enjoys it. It's a beautiful dog house. Luxury. But the fuck was I just saying? Oh, I'm so organized and on top of shit that it's hard for me to have an assistant. Because I'm like, I'll just do it myself.

My new assistant is actually primarily my babysitter. And then I just have her doing like a random little shit. She really does it all. Massage. Yeah, I wish. Bailey is a gift from God. Oh, she's so adorable, Bailey. I fucking love Bailey so much. So shout out to Bailey. Anywho. Was that when you were a kid too? I was always on top of shit like you always did your homework? no no because I didn't give a shit but like if I need my room was always organized

I was always cleaning shit like I just I've always been organized did you kind of think high school was a waste of time when you were in it? completely me too

I thought school was such a waste of time I was there for the social scene I was there for the social scene yeah but I also too was like I'm never gonna do any of this shit. What the hell am I doing here? Algebra 2?

Yeah. Go fuck yourself. I wonder if you and I, we would have been best friends in high school. We would have been best friends. Oh my God. But I like really got into all the like extracurricular stuff. I don't think you would have done.

No, I was photography, ceramics. Oh, you were like artsy. Okay. I was in that photo booth. I like loved all the school stuff. Like loved it. Yeah. I was just there to flirt. Like I cried at graduation. Oh, I were like artsy. Okay. I was in that photo booth. I like loved all the school stuff. Like loved it. Yeah. I was just there to flirt.

Like I cried at graduation. Oh, I did too. Oh, you did? Yeah. I had feelings back then. Well, no, a lot of people were like, oh, I hate high school. I could never go back. I was so happy to get out.

They're like, I was devastated for a little while. I had already like moved out. I was like, I had my apartment up in LA. I was all like, bye motherfuckers. Oh yeah. Well, your experience was a little different. I forgot about that right now. I was like, I had my apartment up in LA. I was all, bye motherfuckers. Oh yeah. Well, your experience was a little different. I forgot about that right now. I was like, here I go to Hollywood. You actually had like opportunity knocking at that point. I was like, what do I do now?

I'm going to be famous. More famous than I was. Different experience. Not relatable. I was ready to go hit the clubs. I was already hitting the clubs. Actually, this is kind of a, so I did dumb shit though. We're like my senior year, I was around the pep assemblies with another guy. We had three pep assemblies the entire year. My dumb ass was up in LA the night before a pep assembly and went out and I was like, I don't want to go to school today. Okay. Then we would have been best friends. That would have been so fun. What the hell was my problem? You know what I mean? Like you had your whole life to go to the club and be, you know, 18, 19, whatever.

And I couldn't even make it to school for a commitment that I had. No, I mean, that makes total sense to me. You've always been like ahead of your time. And like, it's also people who need like a lot of stimulation. I mean, I can't imagine you sitting in high school. You were probably so,

I can't imagine you sitting in your house like for 30 minutes, like actually sitting. So like in school all day long. Well, but there were boys there. So I was more than content. You were going to clubs in high school. Yeah, it was a freaking mess, bro. Wait.

Okay. So you guys listen. The last episode that we did together was about the Hollywood conspiracies. And fuck, I'm not going to lie. I was so nervous to put that out there because I was like people are gonna think i'm batshit crazy the fact that 99 of people were on my side i'm like i fucking love you guys they really work because also like everyone kind of thinks that way now too and it's like i feel like we're getting at a point too where like people want to be able to just have conversations you know when like years ago like everyone's like you can't say that like

you can say anything you want now. And like, cause people be like, if you use your platform to talk about misinformation, all that stuff, I agree. You can't say like actual bullshit. But if you're just having a conversation, like be like, maybe this is true or whatever. Like it is true. And it is true. I'm only saying factual information.

Well, I started getting shit from your friends online who are like, my friends, my crew. Hey guys, my honest people be like no people start messaging me like on social media being like justin listen to your friend kristen she knows what's up i'm like bitch do you know what me and kristen talk about and the camera is not on listen to me i'm actually the full on on your team maybe just as much not more not more you're more but i don't fight you on any of this stuff. No, you don't. But people online were like, Justin, listen to Kristen. She knows.

And then some people were kind of being like a little nasty, which is funny. But I'm like, you guys, if you only knew, like this is why we're friends.

Well, you guys, this is, trust me, like we were just dabbling. Like there's way more we could do. That was like nothing compared to the shit

that I believe. But you guys are going to shit your fucking pants. So, okay. So that episode comes out. Great. I'm like, the internet loves me. This is so nice. And honestly, But you guys are going to shit your fucking pants. So, okay. So that episode comes out great. I'm like, the internet loves me. This is so nice.

And honestly, it gave me a lot of faith in humanity because I was like, people are waking the fuck up. Like, this is great. I have faith in humanity again. Okay. So I'm in New York a few days later. I went there for Good Morning America. And I get a call from my publicist. Anytime my publicist calls me, by the way,

and is like, did you hear? I'm like, what the fuck? Who died? What happened? Like, I can't, my heart can't take it. Okay. So he calls me and he goes, guess who wants your phone number? And I went, who? Britney fucking Spears. And I'm going, what? I'm not going to lie though. At first, because, okay, if you didn't listen

to the last episode, Justin and I did, go fucking listen. But we talked about Hollywood conspiracies and I said, my big thing was Kanye West, I think is a clown.

But also I said, Britney is not Britney. Okay. So Britney obviously caught wind of that. So my initial reaction was, I was scared. I'm not going to lie. I was honestly like, oh my God. So my initial reaction was, I was scared. I'm not going to lie.

I was honestly like, oh my God. Like you thought it was the Illuminati or the Cavaliers? They're fucking on to me, man. They didn't like that podcast episode. So I'm like, give her my number. I'm like, great. So Jack, my publicist, knows her manager. Okay.

So that's how all this comes together. So I, you're my first. Oh, I texted you and you didn't respond. I fucking called you. We never call each other. We love a voice note, but I picked up the goddamn phone. I'm like, Justin, pick up the phone for this. That would have gave me an ulcer if I saw you calling in the middle of the day. Right. No, I did. And you picked it up though. Oh yeah. We talked at that point. Yeah. Yeah. I called you. I was on a Xanax. I was. That's why I don't remember it. That media press was stressing me out. You know, anytime you get hit up in the media and my name gets dragged, I get nervous. I hate it so much.

You're popping Xanax just to get through. That's why I couldn't be famous. I was fucking on cloud nine. What's the difference between us? That's why you're famous. Oh my God. I'm like the internet loves me. Okay. So then Justin and I are talking about everything and we're like, no, this is good. This is really good. Because for years we've been like, we need to be friends with Britney Spears. By the way, we are her biggest fans, like without a doubt. Huge Britney fans.

Like we love Britney so much. She was my idol growing up, like quite honestly. We went to her concert together, like at the very beginning of our friendship. In Vegas. Yeah, we went in Vegas. together, like at the very beginning of our friendship. In Vegas. Yeah, we went in Vegas. And I got to meet her for the first time. And when she met her, Brittany knew exactly who Kristen was and was really sweet to you. She was so sweet to me.

She posted the photo of us. Oh, yeah, she put it on Twitter. Yeah, and she was like reposting things on Instagram that I had posted. Like we were best friends in my mind. Like my life was made. I had our picture like up in my office for years. And then I presented at the VMAs one year and she actually won, but she wasn't there. And I was, that was before I met her in Vegas. So you brought the award to her house? Yeah, I did. So, okay. So I am like,

we are like, holy fuck. Like we have to be best friends with Britney. So Jack reaches out and he says, Britney wants your phone number. Cause you kind of trailed off the story. Yes. Brittany Spears wants your phone number. I'm like, give it to her. Okay. And then when you called me, had you talked to her yet? No. Okay. Fill us in. Cause I wasn't all there that day. So you and I are like freaking out. We're like, holy shit, this is amazing. We're like, but we're also like, this is also very weird, right? Because obviously I was just calling out the cabal. Now Brittany is reaching out to me. Also tell your story about sometimes when you have talked openly about people in the media and what they do, the game they play.

Yeah. That's a real thing because I, I like love to talk about stuff online and there was a time on social media where I was kind of dipping into that stuff. And if anybody followed me on social media, you know what it was about. There were certain things that I would dip my toe in and topics. And I definitely knew I hit a nerve because so many people were like, yes, and then sharing information with me or whatever. And there's this really freaking weird thing. Okay. So I've done celebrity hair forever, left LA and came to Tennessee. When I would talk about a particular celebrity, there was a few that this happened with. And it started getting serious on that. Where I was like deep diving,

asking questions, don't you think this is weird? And kind of talking about it. And it would start getting traction or whatever. Someone from their team would reach out to me and say, hey, so-and-so, this person that I was talking about really wants to get their hair done by you. And that's such a tactic to silence you. And this has happened three times now where it's very specific. And I've shared it with you. And this is where you and I were like, no, this is what they do. This is what they do. If you are so embarrassing, but it's so real. It's real. It's keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Yes. They don't like when you're out there talking. So what do they do? They try to befriend

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Her manager puts us on a group chat and says like, oh, ladies, like he called us icons. But two icons coming together, blah, blah, blah. And then Britney sent me a text and I'm not going to read it. but two icons coming together blah blah blah and then Britney sent me a text and I'm not gonna read it

I would love to read it just take my word why would you love to read it because I know I would love to read it it was a bit of a

roller coaster and it was so it was like no that's Britney Spears nobody can fake that that's not or it's the Britney Spears that's put out

to us right now because it was like one big run on sentence or it's her clone her clone let's put out to us right now. Cause it was like one big run on sentence. Or it's her clone. Her clone. Let me know that she's not a clone. That's a red fucking flag. Only a clone would say something like that.

Yeah. Yeah. I know I'm not a clone. I don't have to convince you otherwise. I do you. But it was, it was one of the more interesting texts I've ever received in my life. Okay.

So then I'm like, no, yeah, I'll definitely hang out with you when I come to LA. Like, that would be fun. And I'm like, Justin will come as like my security. But then, okay. And when you told me about this, we were like, we were like screaming. We were so excited. We're like, oh my God, we will. And I've always said this.

I was like, you and I would be Brittany. If Brittany is real, Brittany or her clone needs like really good friends like the people around Brittany are shady like it's like people who are using her and I've always we've always said in private like when we like talk shit or whatever I talk about things I'm like we would save her life like we would be like really good friends with her like we would be really good influence for her right we would be so we were like we're like oh we're gonna do this like we're gonna be friends with her we're gonna make her life better whatever okay keep going yeah So we were like, we're like, oh, we're going to do this. Like we're going to be friends with her. We're going to make her life better or whatever. Okay. Keep going. Yeah. So we're excited. Okay. So it went from like being scared to now we're

just like, we're excited. We're all in. And then Justin's like, you should text her separately on the side, you know, just like girlfriend and girlfriend. I'm like, yeah, great idea. So I text her separately and I'm so nice. And I'm like, Hey, like, you know, I'm hardly in LA anymore, but when I come in December, I'll let you know. Cause she's like, hey, like, you know, I'm hardly in LA anymore but when I come in December I'll let you know because she's like, we should hang out and blah, blah, blah.

Okay. And then she just never fucking responded. Ghosted. So then we turned. Then we turned because this is what we have inside of us.

Excuse me? You wanted to be friends with me? What the fuck is that? I'm not over here saying we should jet off to paris together that's you britney fucking ghost me well no now i do think you're a fucking clone i don't think it's you i don't even want to hang out you know why it like it was funny to me and i'll just say this i mean i love britney i don't want to sit on here and talk crap about her whatever and i think

britney is extremely guarded for good reasons, right? She is very probably careful about trusting people. The thing that was funny about me is like the manager reaching out, being really nice and then saying like, you and your gay. He was fangirling with me on the side. He was fangirling so hard with Kristen, which any gay would. I feel like gay guys just die for Kristen because she's a gay man, a hot gay man.

That's a woman. But anyways, he was saying this thing. And it was kind of like this thing where it was like, it felt very after thinking about it was like dirty. It was kind of like, yeah, like them reaching out thinking like, oh, if we get manipulated. Yeah. If we give you this crumb and I'm like, first of all, wrong to people that do it because we're the nicest people ever.

And we won't bother anyone. We keep to ourselves. We're also like not like trying to be a part of anything or any group. Like we're very confident. Don't really want a lot of new friends. But if also like not like trying to be a part of anything or any group. Like we're very confident. Don't really want a lot of new friends. But if we become friends, you will be the best friends you ever had.

It felt very manipulative. Like, let's give this little crumb. And then you, because you're a real person, real sweet. And you and I were like thinking about it. I'm like, Kristen, reach out to her privately

and just let her know what a girl's girl you are and be like, I'm here for you if you ever need something. And you wrote the nicest message ever. Crickets. Absolutely nothing. So then the two of us, that's where Kristen and I are like, wait a second. We just got fucking duped. That's when that part of our personality really

comes out where we're like, oh no, you don't do that with us. We're not like fuck with us. At least write something back. Like, thank you so much. That means a lot or anything. XOXO clone. Yeah, XOXO clone. Britney's clone. When you leave it like that, then it's like, oh, I want to TP her house now.

Now I'm like, I'm pissed. Because to me now it was all bullshit, which I thought from the jump. I was like, this is not, this does not seem genuine to me. And now you just proved my point. You're not trying to like hang out and be a buddy. You're just trying to shut me the fuck up

because I'm obviously on to something. I'm fucking on to something. Or because even if she was listening or something, even if you weren't. I still want to hang out with her. No, and that's the thing too. Like no hate to her. It's just funny how this whole system works or whatever.

But like, it's just kind of shitty to not reach back out or just say like. I just don't play these these games like this has always been my thing with hollywood women in hollywood specifically is like it's such a game and it's all this manipulation and it's all it's a game it's like chess like playing chess and it's like i'm not doing that like i'm a fucking real person you're an actual girl's girl and you actually really do want to have friends like there is a that part i think there's a lot of wonderful women in Hollywood. I've have really close friends in that world that I love, but the majority of it, it's a lot of that. It's like cattiness and like, it's just phony. And I think that like you opening

up and being like sweet and then that it was just a shitty situation. It was just dumb. It's dumb. It's fucking dumb. Wrong people to do it too, by the way. Yeah. I'm not the kind of girl you do that dumb shit to. Okay, so also, you guys, I don't know if you saw this, but the real Kanye is back. Real Kanye is back. Have you seen pictures? No, I haven't. But he's back.

And you can go do, okay, I want, please do me a favor. Are they real photos, though? Yes, it's recently. It's not AI. No. Well, at this point, I don't fucking know. So there was obviously real Kanye. And then there was his clone, which we've talked about.

And now Real Kanye is back. Can we do a boom, boom, boom, please? Thank you. And I'm telling you, and he's lost weight. He's back to normal. He's fucking back. So guys, I want to get Real Kanye on the podcast. What the fuck do we have to do, internet?

Let's do the damn thing. I would love to hear your questions. I would prep a lot for that one. So you would want to talk to his clone? No, I want to talk to real Kanye. His clone has been silenced. His clone does not speak. Oh, so now they let real Kanye come out

and you want to get him on. Real Kanye is back. I can't remember. And ask him like, what do you think about your clone? Like how was that seeing someone else live your life? I want to know about MK Ultra, how they fuck with their minds.

I want to know about his clone. I want to dig in. Okay. I want to know about you guys sharing allowance ultra how they fuck with their minds i want to know about his clone i want to i want to dig in okay i want to talk about the kardashians how involved they are with all that shit i really want to get in there so i need the internet guys because i don't know how to reach him send him a dm does he even have instagram i don't even know honestly dm kim that'll go over well she's such a dork she's the ultimate fucking dork i said it fucking sue me yeah take that part out no or don't i'm not i do kind of feel like everyone's figured out the whole kardashian thing like i understand like it was a very much like a period in time because it was like they were like the not the original influencers because there was a lot of influence but they kind of dominated that market where everything was like show fake hot versions of things. And I get it. People really bought into that for a while,

but now it just seems so dated and just kind of like, oh, we've been there. And everything seems like a gimmick now. Like everything they do seems like a gimmick. I agree. Right. Where I think people are just kind of like, no, we're not doing that anymore. Well, it's also like, my thing is like, obviously you don't need money anymore. You're just so addicted to fame that you'll do anything to have people talk about you. Just fucking stay home and enjoy your life. But my thing, and this goes for just beyond the Kardashians. But when you say that you get a lot of things written about you without even trying, do you think that that's the case for them or you think that they try? I think when you're posting a picture, taking a shit on the toilet. That's what I was trying to get at. I wanted you

to say that out loud because I was thinking about your buddies at home and they'd be like, Kristen, you do it too. No, you actually literally, I have never done a goddamn thing. I fucking hate when I, when there are headlines about me, it actually, I, that's when I need a Xanax. It gives me anxiety. The only thing that I see stress you out, like you're, you can take anything with a grain of salt, but with that stuff and she calls me and she's like, voice on its face. It's like, I'm so fucking pissed. Like, did you see the internet today? Like she genuinely hates it. Right.

And I think there is a game where some people play the game where they want to plant seeds and they want to stay in the press or whatever. That's not me. That's not me. But I think, but because my, and by the way, I'm doing this, I've said it before. I'm doing this podcast for money. That's why I'm doing it. And it's been nice for me to obviously have my voice and connect directly with my fans.

And this is the first thing I've ever done where it's been a hundred percent me, but I'm working for money. I'm not working. So I'm still in the press. And I think like, that's the difference for a lot of people in Hollywood is they become so addicted to fame that they'll do anything. Like the Kardashians are a great example where it's like, you have so much fucking money and I know it's all relative and I know they have a lifestyle to uphold, but you're only doing it for the fame at this point. And like the fact that they are doing all of these things to get people to continue to talk about them, like, I don't know.

I think that's gross. I just do. Yeah, I mean, it obviously becomes like a real addiction. I think there are two types of famous people, you know, and I think they are that type that really likes that stuff. And no hate to that. I think there's people who like love that kind of attention. But where are your morals and your values? That's one thing is like you guys are moms now

your mothers. Like I just what are they doing that's immoral? Well, you I don't pay attention to them. But you just sent me that picture of her on the toilet. And it's like you're a mom. So I think for kids and like, yeah, you look hot. Like Kim looks great. I think she looks the best she ever has. But like, where do you draw the line? I don't know. I don't know. I guess there are no lines when you're in the Illuminati. So, okay. But here's my thing. I think I'm just so fucking over Hollywood in general. And like, now that I'm dipping my toe back in the dating pool, little tip tip. So I'm having people obviously, obviously I'm having people reach out to me right now. And I've had a couple like big people in Hollywood reach out to me. Say their name. I would love to.

God, I would love to. But there is nothing in me that wants to go out with these people. Whereas three years ago, I would have been like, okay, yeah. Well, I did. I hung out with people. A lot of people that nobody even knows about. I know. And I was just going to say a name and then I stopped myself. But there are people I hung out with a couple of years ago that like today, I never would. I don't believe you. Really? No, I think if they messaged you right now, you would. Are you going there right now? I don't know. I'll decide later. I don't think I would have given the time of day today. No, I 100% think you would because we were just talking about the other guy recently who at first you were like, no way I would never. And

then like 20 minutes later, you're like, so like, what did he look like when you saw him? And you're like, wait, she's so full of shit. Except for like, I believe it that you don't it's a very specific personality type i think that you could actually still date someone who's in hollywood who does it the same way that you do like they dip in for the work they do it and then they get out i think that there's very there's something interesting about somebody who like lives in tennessee but then they have something to do with hollywood i don't know everyone here fucking sucks let's keep let's be honest about that oh you think you think the whole state of Tennessee sucks now? You heard it here.

She doesn't mean that. She loves it here. No, I mean the guys in entertainment in Tennessee. Yeah, people who want to be famous here. And it's very different here. I've found like people who have like a little bit of notoriety here, they really believe it. Like they think it's massive.

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attracts the wrong type of guy, fair to say. So how are you going to meet him? Because that's- I'm meeting a guy in real life. He has to work in your yard. Well, I'm starting construction. I saw that. I'm going to have a lot of guys here now. There are so many workers on this property too. I like to drive up. When I come in, it feels like Jurassic Park here. And then also when I was coming,

you guys heard driveway is like literally three miles long, but I was coming up your driveway and at one of the bends when I was going over the bridge and under that waterfall, there was literally a man. I saw a bunch of them and they were working, but there was, what do they call those little cars? A go-kart? There was a go-kart just like tossed off.

I was like, oh, is Jackson just out there doing like a nature walk? It was like three miles from the house. It was just left there. Like this property is really funny to me. The go-kart has been there for like two weeks. And I'm like, we got to get the go-kart. But that was my question. I'm like, who abandoned ship?

Like, how did, yeah. And how did they get back to the property is what I want to know. Did they get on a horse? So listen, I'm telling you, it looked like some kind of a horror movie. Like I was like, should I go down there and look for somebody? I'm crying. Oh my God. I'm not kidding though. I'm telling you right now because my next, my next boyfriend is going to be my next husband. Okay. I'm already putting that out there. I'm, I can't keep dating though. I'm telling you right now because my next boyfriend is going to be my next husband. Okay. I'm already putting that out there. I can't keep dating. Like I am dating, but like I can't keep doing it. She has a date tomorrow. Can we stop? The next guy I'm serious about is going to be my next husband.

Which by the way, I always tell him like go on every date. I'm going on every date. I just, I'm about to say no to someone else in entertainment. Yeah. I think you should say no to that. I actually told you you should go though for like fun. But I think meeting a ton of people because you never know what's going to click. But here's the thing. I'm not going to get back on a dating app. I'm not meeting someone through the DMs. Okay. So I've gone out with the same guy a couple of times. I have told him I want nothing serious because I don't want anything serious right now. I'm going to go out with him again here. But I met him in real life. That makes me really happy. That's so funny. But my question

is, can we tell a portion of the story? This is a funny thing. So, okay. So I went, let's tell the whole fucking story. Oh, really? Actually, it's not that dramatic. No one's going to know who these people are. Okay. you tell the story then. Oh my God, this is... Okay, okay, okay. Use fake names though, just so that people... No, I'm going to use fake names. Okay, so a year ago, maybe a little over a year ago,

I get a text from a friend. And he's like, hey, are you dating this guy, Cody? And I'm like, no, I don't even know a Cody. And he's like, Kristen, you're not dating Cody. He's been telling everyone you guys have been dating for a month. And I'm like, who the fuck is Cody? I'm like, I'm literally going through my phone. I don't even have a Cody in my phone. He's like, this is so weird. Like he's going through a divorce and he told his ex-wife that you guys have been dating and blah, blah. He lives five minutes from me. I'm like, this is bizarre.

I've never even heard of this guy. He like sent me a photo of him. I'm like, I don't know who the fuck this guy is. Well, you had legit never even met him. I've never even heard of this guy. He like sent me a photo of him. I'm like, I don't know who the fuck this guy is. Well, you had legit never even met him. I've never even heard of this guy. So I screenshot my text message with my friend, Teddy. Good name. I like that. That's my dog's name. She's looking at her dog.

I'm not good at coming up with names. No, it's great. Okay, thank you. And I posted it to Instagram just to be like, people are fucking nuts. I think that's probably what I said. You blocked out on the names. No, it's great. Okay. Thank you. So, and I posted it to Instagram just to be like, people are fucking nuts. I think that's probably what I said was like, you blocked out everyone's names. And then you kind of, it was a cute story. It was funny. Cause nobody knew anyone's name. No one knew anything. So now Teddy is texting me going, Kristen, you can't post that. You have to take it down. And I'm like, why? Why did Teddy not want you to post it? Why did Teddy not want me posting that? So I'm like, why? He's like,

she's going through a divorce right now. Like this would be bad. I go, this would help her case to show how fucking crazy this guy is. So, but I'm like, oh, fine. I'll take it down, Teddy. But I was like, so mad that I had to take it down. So I take it down. So that's that honestly, because I didn't know who these people were. It didn't fucking resonate. I forget all about it. Really take this in. Nobody's names was on there. So to anybody on her Instagram, nobody would know who it was. It was just kind of like a funny story. Like somebody saying they're dating me and they're not or whatever. But then Teddy reaches out and he's so adamant about you have to take that down. And I even remember saying to you, cause we were talking about this whole thing

or whatever, while it was happening. And I said to you, I was like, Kristen, it's because Teddy's fucking lying. That didn't happen. I was like, Teddy is lying to you. He made that up to try to get information out of you. And you took the bait. Now he's embarrassed because the other players are like, what the fuck? Because Teddy was lying to you. Teddy didn't think I was going to go and post it. Yeah. Okay. So and you at first were like, no, Justin, I'm like, no, that's what happened here. Teddy can be a bit of a shade ball to like should have. Teddy loves drama. Teddy loves drama. I love Teddy though. But okay. So we forget all about it. And now I think we have to tell the story when you were out in Nashville one night.

Okay. So that's what I was going to talk about. So that whole thing happened where Kristen took it down. We never thought about it again. Like it was just kind of off radar. It was just like a funny blip of the day. Then months later,

it was like one of the only times I went out without you on Broadway and I had a wild night. I was like on one. Like I was like dancing on tables. We had like bottle service. It was so embarrassing at my age. But I remember I was like, cause I'm really friendly when I'm out. So I was like dancing and like, anyways, this guy comes walking by and I don't see a lot of people in Nashville that I think are super hot. Like, especially on Broadway. Cause it's kind of messy and like gross and whatever. And very young.

Right. So this guy comes walking by Kristen's not with me and I like zone in I'm like that's the hottest guy I was like that guy's so hot or whatever and he just like he was like tan and kind of blondish hair and really like buff or whatever he looked like you a much better version of me so I like zone in on him and I immediately you know because I try to talk to everyone I was like hey hey hey and he like looked over at me I'm like come here and he was like waving and he wouldn't come over I'm like come here and I was like I love you I was like you're so hot such a you move such a me move also at the straightest bar ever and like this like guy is telling you he loves you from across the bar okay so then the guy never came over whatever and like whatever

then the next day I was talking to Kristen she's like oh how was last night when you went out or whatever? I was like, oh it's fun I was like I saw this guy that was so hot like I was trying to get him to come over because I wanted to be Like, who are you? What's your phone number? I want you to hook up with my best friend or whatever So we talk about this guy now cut to your part. Okay, so then you guys I am at a sporting event Okay, and this is like in the last couple of weeks and I'm in the press box because all of these parents and stuff, a bunch of my friends are in the press box because it was raining and my mom's in town and halfway through this game, I am like, who is this man standing

next to me? And I had like a hat on. I'm like trying to just like not even pay attention. But I was like, this guy is fucking hot. And he had like, he was sweet and he was funny, but he also like had like, I don't know. He was just had this like super masculine energy. And I was like, damn. So after the game, I texted my friend Casey. That's a real name. And I was like, and I was like, wait, what was the deal with Cody? Cody. Okay. I didn't know that it was Cody at the time though. So she's like, she calls me and she's like, Kristen, that's Cody from a year ago who quote unquote said that he was dating you. And I was like, what the fuck? That's Cody. Okay. So I am like, well, clearly that's not true. I'm like,

this guy's like too normal for that to be true. And my friend Casey was like, yeah, we've even talked about it. Like he said that was all bullshit. And like, he didn't tell anyone that you guys were dating and blah, blah, blah. So I'm like, okay, well, hello, you guys need to plant a little seed. So her, her husband, JT, I was like, can you guys plant a little seed? So they're like, JT's like, yeah, I will. So that night, same night, Cody had talked to JT and was like, let me have Kristen's number, like blah, blah, blah. Anyways, he, we actually know, you know what happened? I got his number from Casey and I texted him the next day just to be like, whoa, like how funny is that whole story? Like I had no idea that that was you last night at the game. Like, I hope you know, like, I don't think you said any of that,

like just making fun of it basically. So then it just, you know, morphed from there and we've gone out a couple of times and I do, I really like him. I really enjoy talking to him. I am just not in a place for anything, but I will continue to see him. But that's a fucking crazy story. No, it's a crazy story. And when you guys first hung out, remember, he told you the thing about remembering. He's like your friend. I saw Justin out one night and he was calling me over. And he thought that I knew who he was because of that.

Remember, we had no idea who this guy was. I don't know. We knew his name, but he's not like on Instagram or he's not like, you can't Google him or anything. He's just a dad, right? He's a dad in town. Lucky and like, nobody has to talk about him. Like, no, he is or whatever.

But anyways, we had no idea what he looked like. He thought that the night when I saw him out and I was screaming his name, he thought I was doing it to make fun of him or have him come over and be like, you're the guy that like, Kristen. I had no idea. It just turned out that like I saw him

and I'm like, whoa, he's hot. So does that make sense? He thought I was like fucking with him. It's so, the whole thing is so fucking crazy. So then when I met him, cause we all, we hung out, we had dinner or whatever. And when I was telling him that story, I was like cracking up.

I was like, no, I had no idea who you were. I just like, you stood out to me at that bar and I wanted you to like talk to Kristen. It was, that was wild. It really is so crazy. So what I like about him is, yeah, he's not on social media. He's, he's a businessman.

And I love that. That's why I just think like moving forward, that's what I need. Not someone who's in the public eye, someone who has a lot going on. Cause like, okay, here's what I realized moving forward. I want someone who I can really learn from, who can like teach going on. Because like, okay, here's what I realized moving forward. I want someone who I can really learn from.

Who can like teach me things and just like… Well, like Cody is my age. He feels a lot older to me. Are you guys the same age? Isn't that wild? I know he feels older to me. Yeah, very mature. Yeah.

Very masculine. Super masculine. But like that's what I'm into. It's like… So I had actually asked my Instagram followers what they wanted to talk about. And people were like, who's your next'm into is like, so I had actually asked my Instagram followers what they wanted to talk about. And people were like, who's your next guy? You're going to be older. I'm like, yeah, I'm, I, I'm now like really wanting someone older who I can like learn and grow from. I think you should. I think it'd also be really good for you to have someone teach you

things to make you feel safe, whatever. I mean, yeah, I mean, it is, you know, it's like, you know, if you're dating somebody who isn't very in tune with the world, you know, you don't know if they could take care of you. You know, it's true. They can't. You don't need it.

You don't want to be the dad. I don't want to be the masculine. You already have such masculine energy. You want to know what else is a deal breaker? I just want you to date someone like just normal. My thing is like, I want you to have a moment where it's like somebody who like actually doesn't want attention from the outside.

Someone who can't gain anything from me. Yeah. I think that's like your biggest hang up. Yeah. I think that's hard for you. That's why I can't, the DMs are off because that attracts that type of guy.

But it's funny because I think almost all the guys who reach out to you are in that world a bit because I think it's like an understanding. So many people who are famous think like, oh, famous should date famous. I think it's the worst combination ever, unless it works. Sometimes it works really well.

Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell. There's certain people where it works really, really well. But the majority of it, you can't have two people in the public eye. No, I just need someone though who's like successful so that nothing in my life is a threat. That's been an issue with me with men since I was 18, by the way, like my boyfriend, when I was 19, I made more money than him. And that was a huge insecurity for him. And he was like 10 years older than me. So it's always been an issue for me with dating. I don't need to make more money than someone necessarily. Like we've

had this conversation a lot, but I need someone who is successful so that my life isn't a threat. You want to know what else is a deal breaker for me? I want someone who's had a vasectomy. Oh man, that makes sense. I don't have to worry about any of that shit. Cause you want to like raw dog it. You don't want to worry about that. Oh, but you know what? I'm going to release. I'm not on birth control. Why don't you get your tubes tied? Oh, I like that. Yeah. Fuck you because I've had three. Ooh, women's empowerment. Women's right. Yeah. Why I got to do everything, bitch. Why I got to take a pill every day and mess up my body. Why I got to put poison in my body.

It's true. I was on birth control from like fucking 15 until like 23. It is a real thing. Like women are expected to just be the ones to figure out. And then like no guy wants to wear a condom. Yeah, like fuck you. Yeah, like they just want to have it their way. Fuck you.

But that's why like I think dads are the ones who obviously have had vasectomies. Like, no one without kids is going to have a vasectomy. Yeah, so true. So I need someone who… I also need a dad, man. And ideally, his kids would be a little bit older. So I don't really have to deal with it the day-to-day. Because also, like, I can't have a Brady Bunch.

I don't want a Brady Bunch. Yeah, that's why. Yeah, I was saying to you. So an old… Like, okay, perfect guy for me. 44, successful, has, like, like two kids going off to college that's great vasectomy little empty nester yeah she could go over their house his house for the quiet time yeah yeah come over and be like second dad for a little bit yeah yeah it works perfect for you i get it i get it yeah this is usually

the way your brain works it's fucking time that I just get exactly what I want. You know, you usually do, you know, I always get it, but you'll try things. And then when they don't work out, you end them. What else is on my deal breaker list? Oh, the other thing I'm never going to do again. And this is on me. So don't fucking come for me. I know this is my own goddamn fault. I'm never going to do a social media relationship ever again. I'm never going to put anyone like, can we get that in writing? This is me signing a contract with the let's be honest crew. I will say I am in a relationship when I'm in a relationship. I will forever change his name. I will never fucking post him. I'm not mark my goddamn word. Kristen, don't say it like that because you'll probably, you might go back

on it. Let's not, let's not put that. I'm not going to make my relationship as accessible as it was. Yeah, I like that better. Okay. But I really, I think. And not so quick. And not so quick. I also, okay, I'm going to make it. Because recently you did one that was really quick and I called you out for it.

I was like, Kristen, don't do it. And you did this thing to me where you get a little bit sassy with me. You turn into Sailor, your daughter. And you're like, Justin, I've got this handle. They're like, Justin, it's fine. Like, I'm going to do what I want. And then sure enough, you regret it. And it's like, that is the one area where you should listen to me on that stuff. Because I'm always looking for your best interest.

The other thing, and I will make a promise to you right now, I'm not going to say I love you for at least six months. Well, that's dramatic. Well, the last two guys I said it to after six months is a long time. Six months is when I go, oh, wait, I don't actually like you. Oh, so this is a formula for you trying to get ahead of it. I love someone for six months. And then I'm like, oh. So you're not going to say I love you for six.

That's a long time, Kristen. That's like. You're right. That's a long time. That's a long time. What's like a normal three months? Three days. Three days.

That's what I've done in the past. You know what I told Scoot I loved him. He was like, because I'm Scoot's first boyfriend. My partner now. I said what I've done in the past. You know what I told Scoot I loved him. He was like, because I'm Scoot's first boyfriend. My partner now. I said, I love you. I think it was like our third date. Seriously?

Yeah, but I felt, I meant it. I meant it. Well, see, that's the thing. I've always felt it and meant it when I've said it, but it's been like three weeks. It's been, but for me, okay, well, what it is,

is six months for me is a crucial, a crucial time where I'm, it's either going to make it or break it. Okay. I like that. It's like I wake up at six months and I'm like, wait, you suck. But I don't think saying I love you has anything to do with that. It doesn't matter. Well, I feel bad because then I end up breaking hearts.

I'm thinking about the guy. That's not for me. I'm thinking about the guy. Oh, okay. I like that. Because I've broken some hearts in the last few years. And that, I'm not like happy about that. But I don't think there's anything that you could do to change that with the ones that happen. And I would be honest with you. It's not like you did it on purpose. You gave it your all.

You tried it. That's part of life too. It'd be one thing if you like were leading them on on purpose and you got let down and it didn't end up being what you wanted and you moved on. I totally understand why they are hurt because they are in love with you and like whatever. But it's not like you, it wasn't intentional up being what you wanted and you moved on i totally understand why they are hurt because they are in love with you and like whatever but it's not you it wasn't intentional on your end okay that makes me feel better because i'm like god i i yeah that's never

my intention yeah to break someone's heart but i have in the last few years so you think if you don't tell them no i guess that wouldn't really change things yeah if you tell me you love them it doesn't matter like all right i don't want to talk about this anymore i want to talk about where sorry sorry we brought it up i love when you do that when you turn on a top she does this all the time in friendships too because i like to really dissect things like i'm annoying with that shit i will like dig so deep on a topic but she'll turn so fast justin i want to talk about this i'm like you brought it up you fucking psycho. That is so weird. I know, I literally do.

Like a child. I'm like, alright, I feel better. I'm good. I figured it out. I figured it out. Wait, I do want to talk about where guys go though because I think I need to start playing golf. Oh my god. I have to. That's where I'm going to meet somebody. Okay, and you told me this the other

day and I agree. I think it's really good to go to a place for like men congregate. Yeah. But then you have to think a step further. Do you want to date a golfer? Not really. Yeah. Do you want a guy who spends eight hours playing golf, bro? Not really.

It's Sunday and they're on the golf. And they're like, what? You met me on the golf course. You knew that was my hobby. Although I. I become a cart girl. Not their pouring drink. I was going to say some people like love

that they have that free time from their husband. Their husband goes and plays golf. I couldn't though. If Scoot went off and played golf for eight hours, we have to break up. Well, the other thing is too, like apparently, because like there are cart girls

and they all say like what scum facts these guys are. They're all married and they're all hitting on the cart girls. I want to be a cart girl just to like see. You should do that like a side hustle. Just on the weekend. I should do that. That'd be cool. That's a reality show. Me becoming

a cart girl. Oh my god. Or we could go play Topgolf. No. Dads with their kids and drunk frat boys. I know. Fuck. And Topgolf is where guys go like on dates. Okay, I would say- Where do the good guys go?

Okay. Hotel bars. That's what I always say. And I always say- But is that escorts? Is that why they're going there? No, but if you're not an escort, it's like- I am though.

No. Okay, you want a businessman, a guy who has a lot going on for himself. Also, you want a guy with confidence, right? I always think, you know, when I would travel for work, would travel for work and I love this, I tell you this all the time. I love to sit at a hotel bar by myself. I love going down in the morning and having breakfast by myself, you know, and you kind of like, and I was like, if I was single, this would be the easiest place to like meet people. I chat with everyone at the bar or whatever. And it's usually people who are like-minded. They're on a vacation. You know, we stay in very specific hotels. So it's

probably somebody who has the same interests. You're like the likes, the same type of things. It's a real thing. I don't care if anyone thinks that's pretentious. I mean, there's a thing, you know, it's like, that's you love that hotel.

If they're staying there, then there's a connection. You know, you like nice bedding, good water pressure in the shower, you know, so you can meet up in places like that. But then even beyond that,

I don't think that you can, um, you can test a fate, you know, like things just kind of happen. And I also think people who like, you know, you're not a hooker. You're not going to like hang out somewhere.

The other thing that's so funny when we talk about this conversation, you don't have any lulls ever in dating. Like I've had girlfriends who are like two years in and they're like, Jess, I can't meet anyone. She's like four days. She's like, this is so fucking weird.

Like no one is hitting me up. Like you always have somebody interested in you. Even this round, you're like, Kristen, I just think you should like take him in. I can't this time. I can't this time. Haven't I gotten really real with you this time? But Kristen, I've got to be honest. I did take a couple weeks off. Yeah, you did. You did.

But I was like, I kind of got to check out on this, you know, and just like treat this like it's entertainment at this point because like I can't. It is entertainment. I'm not like. I kind of got to check out on this, you know, and just like treat this like it's entertainment at this point. Cause like, I can't. It is entertainment. I'm not like. I don't think your life is entertainment. This is very serious. I'm not looking for a heartbreak for my girl.

And meanwhile, she doesn't care at all. Like you do get your heartbreak and it's like, it's like whatever. But like, I like how it's the end of the world. I was sad about my last breakup. Like that's. The most that I've ever seen you. Yeah. That's fact.

But then it's time to move on. And then, yeah. So I've been again, but I'm very here's the other thing with Cody. I'm very honest about I don't want anything. I actually don't even want to talk to the same guy all the time. I've been honest about that. Oh, you want to be in multiple relationships? Polygamist.

I know a religion for you. I just want to be able to do whatever the fuck I want. I'm not ready to give all. Girl, I don't think anyone thinks otherwise. I don't think that's groundbreaking. Like I. No, actually, you spent you spent 10 years of your your life having kids, being in a marriage. I'm being funny.

Over the past few years or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is my single era. And like I said, my next boyfriend is my future husband. So I am like, okay, well, we need to have some more fun. Do you get mad when I say that thing? Because I say this a lot to you where I say like, Kristen, I really see you being in a serious relationship

once your kids are out of the house. Yeah, but I think it's going to happen sooner than that. Okay, so you want to... And the reason that I say that to her is because I'm like, Kristen's so dedicated to her kids. And then it's like you bring somebody else in. I think that's a lot of times your struggle, you know? If someone was like active, like being proactive in my kid's life

and like teaching them things and talking to them and helping them out and like helping me out like i think it would be a different situation rather than like having a fourth kid yeah i believe it you know what i mean absolutely you feel me yeah i do all right great what about like a dive bar i don't even know where there is a dive bar well there's that one leapers for yeah i know that's my fucking went with cody we went to this one dive bar i was fascinated by that place also i gotta get the fuck out of leapers man it's real small town here yeah even this is a cody is the first guy that i've dated in my little tiny town and i don't

like that even just because it's a small town and i don't want anyone knowing anything about me so that's also like more are you gonna listen to listen to yourself on that? I'm going to keep dabbling. With him. Yeah. But I'm keeping my options open because I don't want anything serious. Okay. And that's it. Any final thoughts?

I don't know. This was great. You know, we just really got to the bottom of some great stuff. Oh, get Kanye on the pod. Yeah. Hit him up wherever you can. How do you find him? Find Kanye. Dot com. I don't know.

Bye, guys. All right. Bye. Bye.