Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - The Hills: It's On Bitch (Season 5, Episode 11)

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

Here we go with my first real episode of The Hills! From my “fake” Malibu house to the man-eater reputation, my relationship with Brody, and the producers’ plan for my so-called “char...acter,” I’m breaking down what was real, what was fake, and what got way out of hand. Including that infamous London Hotel fight — how it escalated, why I still stand by it, and what no one saw coming. The tabloids, the pressure, the Justin Bobby storyline… this is where it all began.A word from my sponsors:Nutrafol - See thicker, stronger, faster-growing hair with less shedding in just 3-6 months with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code HONEST.Foria - Get 20% off your first order by visiting foriawellness.com/HONEST OR use code HONEST at checkoutCymbiotika - Go to Cymbiotika.com/Honest for 20% off plus free shipping. That’s Cymbiotika.com/Honest for 20% off plus free shipping.Bon Charge - Go to boncharge.com/HONEST and use coupon code HONEST to save 15%.Cotton - Learn more at TheFabricOfOurLives.comFor more Let's Be Honest, follow along at:@kristincavallari on Instagram@kristincavallari and @dearmedia on TikTokLet's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari on YouTubeProduced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a dear media production. This is Let's Be Honest with Kristen Cavalry, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality TV, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. What's up, guys? Here we are. We're back for another Hills rewatch, recap. And guys, guys. I've got to tell you, I'm having so much fun doing this. This might be my favorite podcast little series that I've done to date. And that is saying a lot because I've had a lot of fun doing the podcast. But I'm going to get right into it because there was so much.
Starting point is 00:00:44 I took so many notes on this episode. And today, the episode that we're doing, it's titled It's On Bitch. And it is my essentially first episode doing The Hills. It is the infamous London Hotel Party when shit goes down. down. And I want to start with the description for the show. So it says Kristen Cavalieri's attempt to reconnect with her Hollywood friends goes awry when she angers Audrina by hitting on Justin. Oh, I can't wait to get to it. So this first aired September 29th in 2009. Like I said, this is my first real episode of my now season. And it actually took me a second because I
Starting point is 00:01:30 I'm narrating it. And at first, the recap is obviously from a whole previous season that I wasn't involved with. So it took me a couple seconds to be like, oh, wait, that's me narrating it. It like, my brain, like, didn't sync up for some reason. And it was wild to hear me narrating a show again because it's been, obviously, what, 15 years or whatever. So that was, that was really interesting. So, okay, the episode starts with Heidi and Spencer. They're setting up that they're throwing this party, right? It's after their wedding now. I'm assuming their honeymoon, although there's no mention of a honeymoon. And they're going to have this party at the London Hotel. And they've invited me. And then we have Lo, Adrina Stephanie, and the girls are chatting and they're basically talking about me. They're saying
Starting point is 00:02:15 that I'm going to be in Malibu that summer, which then later in the show, you see me coming out of my quote unquote Malibu house, which is funny because I, for some reason, thought that this house was my second season. But no, it was my first season. And so I've talked about this on the pod before. But MTV got me this sick-ass house in Malibu for the summer. It was right on the beach. I mean, this must have been like a $30 or $40 million house. Honestly, maybe more at this point. And they got it for the summer. The only kicker was we could only ever stay there when we were there filming and drinking. So I think I only slept there maybe three or four times the entire summer. So definitely was not my house. This was all MTV. I think at the time I was living in a
Starting point is 00:03:01 condo building that I was renting and they would not let us film there. So this was kind of the only option. And this was sort of like, it was great for storyline being like, oh, well, Kristen's in Malibu this summer. So we're all going to hang out. So that was not my house. But anyways, so the girls are chatting and Adrina asks why I have the reputation of being a man eater. And logos because she was. And then says I, oh, Stephanie chimes in because she had known Brody, obviously I think pretty much her whole life because of Spencer. And she says that I was a boy magnet. I was Brody's first girlfriend. He even got me a dog. Brody doesn't have girlfriends. Like, oh my God, I like changed Brody, which I mean, I will say, Brody did have one girlfriend
Starting point is 00:03:49 before me. I think it was like a high school girlfriend or something. But I was his first girlfriend as quote unquote adults, although I don't consider anyone under the edge of 25 an adult, but you know what I'm saying. I was 18. I think he was 22 at the time. And Brody and I were sort of like the second we laid eyes on each other. It was like, that was it. He did buy me a dog, Bentley. I'm, I don't know if, I know he ended up giving Bentley to his mom. I don't know if Bentley is still around or not, but he was a cute little French bulldog. So people do get confused because Brody was my first real boyfriend in L.A. I graduated high school. I moved up to L.A. met him almost immediately. And we did date for, I want to say, close to a year. And then, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:32 now when I'm joining the Hills and later in this season, I believe, Brody and I date. But that wasn't real. I never actually dated Brody at this point in time. It was only when I was 18. So I think people get a little confused on that. So any, anyhow, Audrina asks. if, you know, she wonders if I'm dating anyone currently. I know, it's just so funny to me that the only thing anyone has said about me since I've joined the Hills is my, my dating status. Like, hook me up with the guy or is she single? Is she dating anyone? Like, that's the only thing anyone cares about with me. So Lowe then gets into that she never had an issue with me in high school, but a few girls had problems with me because I'm not afraid to get in your face. I'm not
Starting point is 00:05:14 afraid to stand up for myself. And if you're on my bad side, It's really nasty. And then they say that I slapped Lauren outside of a club. You guys, I have no idea what they're talking about. I don't think that's true because, you know, what's funny? I, like, vaguely remember people being like, oh, like saying that to me. And I'd be like, I never, I never was physical with Lauren ever. In fact, Lauren and I were friends after we graduated high school.
Starting point is 00:05:46 We all went to a trip to the Bahamas together. with Heidi and and Stephen was there and Lauren and Lauren and I were buddies. Maybe friends is a bit of a loose word, but we were friendly, I would say. And we actually had a lot of fun together on many different occasions. I never slapped Lauren. I'm going to go on record here. I would love Lauren to clear that up because I think this is complete bullshit and I never hit anybody. I mean, I could run my fucking mouth, which we clearly see in this episode, but I never actually got physical with anybody. So fuck you guys for saying that. And so it's just interesting. how they really are setting me up to be this girl, you know, like laying the groundwork,
Starting point is 00:06:25 painting this picture of who I am. And it's also funny to me because Adrina's acting like she's never even met me before. And Adriena and I had hung out. We had mutual friends. Her and I were at my friend Nick's house who lives here in L.A. one night. I've got pictures of us together from before I came on the hills. So clearly this, I would almost put money on the fact that this scene was potentially a pickup scene even where this was very much producer led, telling the girls what to say, setting the stage for quote unquote who I am as a person because Adrina would have been like, no, I've met her. I've hung out with her before. She's cool. And in fact, I told you guys on the last episode, in between Heidi and Spencer's wedding, we had months in between then, now me going to the London
Starting point is 00:07:08 hotel. We had so much time that the tabloids were writing articles about what was to come on the hills. And Us Weekly wrote one saying, Adrina and I were fighting because of Justin Bobby. And we hadn't even started filming yet. And Adrina and I talked and we were like, oh, how funny. Okay, clearly this is the story that the producers want and we're not going to give that to them. I'll never forget it. I was like, yes, Adrina and I are allies.
Starting point is 00:07:33 There's no way we're going to do this. We're not fighting over a boy. This is so juvenile and stupid. Yes, the girls are banding together. Okay, so Adrina knew me. And then, okay, now we go back to Heidi and Spencer, and they're talking about the party. And Spencer is saying that because I'm single, Adriana better watch out because Justin Bobby's going to be swooped up. And then later he's like, oh, actually, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I don't know if she's going to go for Justin Bobby or for Brody. And it's just, again, laying the groundwork that, like, I'm going to come in and swoop up all these guys. Like, no bitch is safe. Like, well, lock away your men because Kristen's in town. Oh, he calls me the real deal of female player. I'll take that as a compliment. Thank you, Spencer. And then, oh, God, I was dying.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Okay, so they finally get to Brody. It's a scene of Brody and his ex-girlfriend, Jade. And Brody's lower third, which is your title card, where it says, like, Brody. And then underneath it, there's like a little description of him. It says Kristen's ex-boyfriend. So Brody, who's been on the hills for multiple seasons, has now all of a sudden been demoted to my ex-boyfriend. That's his description.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I mean, poor Brody. I was like, I would have been pissed if I was him. So it's him and Jade. They're getting ready for the party because Jade's trying to decide what bikini to wear. And let's just clarify this. Anytime there was a big event, like the London Hotel party,
Starting point is 00:09:03 that was the only thing you filmed that day. They're not getting ready with you because they're at the London Hotel, setting up cameras, getting everything going, especially because when it comes to production, you can only shoot for so many hours in the day, unless you've got multiple crews, but we did not. We had one crew, unless it was like a huge party. But the crew was at the London Hotel. So this is a pickup scene because they never would have been at Brody's condo, getting ready, and then naturally following you over to the London
Starting point is 00:09:32 Hotel. It was just you get to the London Hotel. This is where we pick up the scene. So this is not in real time. But Jade is basically saying she doesn't want to go. She doesn't want to meet Brody's ex-girlfriend, me. And Brody's like, what do you mean? She's going to be fine. But you got to watch out for her. But so again, just really setting the stage for what's to come. And speaking of not being with you day of. So they have this whole beautiful tracking scene of me leaving the house in Malibu, going to the London hotel. I mean, they even had cameras up in helicopters. These were, this is one really shows had big budgets. And that was not day of. That was not me really on my way to the London Hotel.
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Starting point is 00:13:42 So then I pull up to the London Hotel, and the whole time I'm driving, I'm by myself, including pulling up to the London Hotel. And then when you see me walk into the London, I magically have two friends with me because, again, none of that was in real time. And to me, it's just so funny that, I don't know, they thought they could get away with this stuff. And obviously, the hills is when people started to kind of pick up, you know, your nail polish is a different color in the same scene.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Like, there were like, I remember there were like little things that people started to notice to realize maybe it wasn't as real as everyone had initially thought. But they still, you know, this, I think it was six seasons in. They're still pulling shit like this. So they always want to make it seem like I'm late. I'm the last one to show up at every fucking event. And guys, I can tell you right now, I am the most prompt on time person on the planet. And that's just not the case at all.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I've told you guys, told you the last episode. they hold you until they are ready for you to go into scene. So of course, they make it seem like I'm the last person at the London Hotel party. And I was not. In fact, they had me go in and Heidi and Spencer were the last ones to come in because I remember when they walked in, they walked in with two bottles of tequila. And that is when things took a very dark turn as when those bottles of tequila showed up. So I was actually in the party filming and everything before Heidi and Spencer got there. But in the edit, obviously they made it seem like it was the opposite because it's more dramatic to have me walk in fashionably late, of course.
Starting point is 00:15:13 So I walk in with my two friends. I'm saying hi to everybody. They make it seem like I say hi to Jaden. She just completely ignores me, which was not the case at all. Jade and I never had an issue with each other. I think immediately actually Jada and I did like each other. And later in the episode after Adrina Stephanie and I have some words, they cut to a scene. And I'm actually standing there with Jade and a couple other people, but like, it was like, Jade was my ally and I was bitching to her about the other girls. So Jade and I never had an issue, but they wanted to really play up the fact that every girl apparently did have an issue with me, which was just not the case. So, oh, God, I'm so excited to talk about this. Okay, so I
Starting point is 00:15:57 say hi to Justin Bobby, like a normal human being, like he's any other guy. There was nothing weird said. There was nothing flirty. said, because if Justin and I were flirting, they would have aired it. You know they would have showed that. It was a simple high. A simple high after we all were drinking lots of tequila shots and we were all fucking hammered. You could tell. I think at one point I've got these like $2, like cheap sunglasses on and then they're just magically gone, like just train wrecks at this point. But so I'm just, I'm just saying hi to Justin like he's any other person. And Stephanie says that I beeline straight for Justin and it's so insane. And it's funny. And it's funny to
Starting point is 00:16:36 to me because I actually feel like when you know what was going through my head, when you watch it, the way I'm speaking to Justin and saying hi to him, or like, and even the little conversation that we had, I actually think I look like I am uninterested in the conversation and like I don't care. And maybe that's only because I knew really my headspace, but I, we weren't flirty at all. Let's just put it that way. So of course, they cut to Adrina looking at us, you know? And then Adrina says it's girl code. You know, you don't go there like I was trying to make out with him or something. Like the girls really, the way they were reacting, I would encourage everyone to go back and watch it, you guys, because the way the girls were reacting, you would have thought I was
Starting point is 00:17:16 like dry humping him, like giving him a lap dance. Like, I mean, I was actually kind of shocked watching it that like that behavior flew. Okay. Let's just put it that way. And again, this could be editing on their end too. But this was a very real fight. So, okay, so then Stephanie Big Doug, you know, like Audrina's security, comes over to Justin Bobby and I. And she's giving Justin Bobby shit for not saying hi to Adrina. Also, what? And Justin Bobby says that he did say hi to Adrina. And so my little drunk firecracker ass has to interject.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And I say, he's a big boy. He can handle it. And by the way, my favorite part of this whole thing is Spencer and Heidi next to me. I think Heidi's arms are around me and Spencer's next to me and the grins on their face, you guys, they are like, oh my God, like just so excited for what's happening. So then Stephanie says to me, Kristen, he needs to respect Audrina bottom line. And I'm, I'm drunk and I go, what? which by the way, it was actually my reaction watching this. Again, just the fact that she's
Starting point is 00:18:32 implying that like something is going on, guys, I quite literally did nothing wrong. I stand by this. I stand by everything I fucking did in this scene because I didn't do a goddamn thing. I just feel like these girls honestly were searching for a fight, which, hey, you know, mad respect because we are filming a TV show. I think this is my real first day filming. So I was like, I didn't really know what to expect. I remember walking away from this scene and, well, immediately calling my publicist being like, oh my God, this is what just happened? Like, what have I gotten myself into? What have I signed up for? But I also remember walking away being like, these girls do not know what's real and what's fake anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And to me, it felt like the lines were very blurred. I don't, I don't know. I just was like so confused by the whole thing. And maybe they were just playing it up in front of the camera. Maybe they didn't actually believe everything. But I don't know. This was a. this was a real fight. Okay, so it just escalated so easily and so quickly and really it was like the over nothing and it was actually pretty ridiculous. But so Stephanie said that I said he's a good guy, which I didn't, but never came out of my mouth. So I repeated myself and I said I said he can handle himself. He's a big boy. Then Audrina comes over and she goes, why are you guys talking about me? I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:19:56 I was so confused by the whole thing. Her name never came up. Okay, so I'm pissed, right? Because now I feel like I'm being attacked for something I didn't fucking do. I'm being accused of something that I didn't do and I'm fucking drunk. And you don't fuck with me when I'm drunk. So I go, I'm sorry I walked up here and was saying hi to my friends and you guys came at me like fucking piranhas.
Starting point is 00:20:18 By the way, I'm proud of that line. The fact that I came up with that on the fly like that with some drinks in me, like I love that. So again, I'm just like, I did nothing wrong. And now all of a sudden I'm actually being attacked and, like, backed into a corner when I did nothing. So I stood my ground and I'm sorry, but the girls were coming at me for nothing. So Adriena tells me to step in front of Justin and put the dukes up. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And I said, I want you to come. I'm drunk, but I'm like, I want you to come come at me right here and talk to me like that. Like, get in my face and say it. By the way, I'm all fucking talking. guys, because I'm going to say it to my face. I would do nothing. Like, I would literally do nothing. But I seemed scary, I guess. And there's this one shot. It's over Adrina and Stephanie's shoulders. And I'm so much shorter than them. And I'm, like, looking up at them and I'm, like, yelling at them. And it was the funniest shot. I thought it was so genius from the
Starting point is 00:21:17 producers. It's like, I'm this like little chihuahua like, these girls just running my mouth. So I guess Adrina says whatever, she walks away, smart Adrina. And so I, you guys have to remember at this point, because leading up to this, I'm like, Adrina and I are allies. We're not going to give MTV what they want. This is my girl. And now of a sudden I literally did nothing and these girls are attacking me. So that's why.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Then I said, all right, so it's going to be like this? It's going to be like this. Is it going to be like this? Because if it's going to be like this, then it's fucking. on, bitch. It's on. And then I say, you fucked with the wrong girl, dude. Because in my head, I'm like, did we not decide that we weren't going to do this? And now you're doing that? So I was like, okay, if you want to play like this, I'll fucking play like this. So at this point, I'm thinking, all bets are off. I don't know Adriena anything. I never in a million years
Starting point is 00:22:14 would have done the Justin Bobby's storyline and gone down that road. If Adriena and I were buddies, there's no fucking way. Never would have. But at this point, I'm like, well, I don't know this girl fucking anything. It's on. Okay, so anyways. Oh, little side note. I will say while I was watching this, I realized I'm really happy that I worked through my shit because this behavior, while I stand by what I did and I don't regret this at all, I would never behave like this today as an adult. I mean, I was, I think, 21 or 22 during this. And this little, like Firecracker takes no shit attitude, definitely served me. Like clearly, I mean, we made a great show out of it. I would never, I would never do this today. So I was thankful that while it
Starting point is 00:23:04 could serve me and I'm happy I reacted like that, I'm so thankful that I've worked through my shit so I don't pop off like that anymore. Just want to throw that out there. So then we cut to girls are chatting the next day, or supposedly the next day, Stephanie and Adriena. And Stephanie is saying, I am not good news. I'm the girl who will stab all of them in the back, which I just want to throw this out there. Because then there's another scene. The episode ends with the three girls, Loe, Adrina and Stephanie, talking about, well, here, I'll tell you exactly what they say. Oh, no. It's actually the episode ends with Justin Bobby and I on a date, but we'll get to that. The girls are saying that my ego is going to destroy me. Lowe says, you don't treat your
Starting point is 00:23:49 girlfriends this way. And basically, like, talking about what a horrible friend I am, well, I wasn't friends with them. Let's just clarify that. Lowe and I obviously went to high school together, but we did not remain in touch. I mean, I've never had an issue with, well, until the Burke and Fiasco, I never had an issue with Lowe. But she wasn't someone that I cared for or didn't care for. She just was sort of there to me. And that's not me being a bitch and that's not me being negative. You don't have to be friends with everybody. And that's okay. And then Stephanie, this is the first time I had met Stephanie, was doing the hills. And Adriena and I had hung out a couple times previously.
Starting point is 00:24:26 But again, all bets are off at the London Hotel. You guys actually are not my friends. And I don't know you jacked shit because, again, we're not friends. So you're saying what a bad friend I am, but you have to be friends to be a bad friend. And just, you know, what? Because my actual friends, I've always been a ride or die for. I mean, most of my friends I've had in my life for over 20 years. I actually pride myself on being a very good, loyal friend, and I would never do anything like
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Starting point is 00:30:01 And it wasn't until the end of the season. We as a cast went to New York to do TRL or something. And I think that was the first time we had really been around each other. And so I remember saying to her, I don't think Justin Bobby must have been there. Or maybe he was, but he wasn't around at this point. And I said, you know, Justin and I never actually dated, right? And she was like, what? Like, shocked.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And I was like, no, I literally never saw him outside of filming. Not one time. Because I never saw Justin Bobby outside of filming. And I think, obviously on the show you see every time I filmed with him, I think it was only a handful of times. I mean, I never really dated Justin Bobby. And she was, she believed it, though. whole season. So I really do think, like, when she's calling me a psycho bitch and saying all these things about me, like, she meant it. And I, listen, I mean, I get that. I can understand
Starting point is 00:30:51 if, you know, this new girl comes in and she's trying to, like, take the guy that you like, I mean, yeah, I would be pissed too. But it was after that when I was like, Adriena, I never dated him that we put it all to bed and we actually became friends, which is just so crazy. The girls are just echoing again that every girl in L.A. needs to be careful. of me. No boyfriend is safe. I mean, I love that they give me that much credit, you know. Okay, so then the girls are setting up Frankie's Fiesta, his birthday at Pinch's Tacos. And again, they have me come last, which is fucked up. I'm always the last person to go anywhere. And they, of course, sit me right across from Justin Bobby. What do you know? Funny how that always magically
Starting point is 00:31:35 happens. And I don't know if this is strictly from me or if this was show led. I'll take credit for it. I asked Justin if he's single or if he's dating anyone. Again, I don't know. I probably came from me. He says he's single and I say how single is single. And then Lowe's, of course, whispering to Stephanie that Justin is flirting with me. And Justin told me that he and Adriena were never fully together. Now, let me back up. I never watched the hills. Like, I didn't know necessarily the storylines before I joined. I had seen maybe an episode here or there, but I didn't know the whole backstory with Justin and Adrina. Of course, I knew they had dated. I didn't know to what extent. So, and clearly Adrina and I are not having
Starting point is 00:32:22 conversations about it. So when Justin tells me that they were never even fully together, I take that at face value. I don't know. I haven't seen the fucking show. I don't know what's going on. And so I've got no reason at this point to not believe him. So again, Adrina and Stephanie are fucking crazy coming at me looking for fights. So I owe them nothing. And Justin tells me they were never even together. So I'm like, great. Okay. Okay. So it's wild to see some of the other little like the friends on the show, like this guy, Taylor, like all the people I obviously recognize and I know we all used to be friends. And it's, I just haven't seen them in years. So it was kind of fun for me to like see all the other players kind of around. And so Taylor is asking Justin Bobby about
Starting point is 00:33:05 me. He says that I'm fun. And then he comes up. and he sits down next to me because now we've left Pinch's Tacos. We're across the street watching some sort of a game. I don't know a game. So we're talking about his motorcycle. I tell him I've never been on one. And he says he's going to take me out on his motorcycle. And he does say, Adrina's been on the back of that thing. That's not going to be an issue, is it? And I joke. I'm like, well, then I can't go. We need something new. Then there's a line from me where you don't see my mouth moving. And I'm like, I don't know, Justin, are you asking me out? Well, that's a wild line. He didn't actually ask me out there. And he goes, I don't know, I'm trying to be good.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Also a wild line. And it's just funny to me because they wasted no time on this storyline. I mean, again, this is my first episode. And I mean, immediately Justin and I are hanging out on going on a date. And I will say this. So while Justin and I didn't see each other outside of filming, I would never say that I dated Justin. There is an underlying flirtation. And that is real. I will say that is real. I also am the biggest flirt on the planet. I think we've always known this. We will probably always know this. And so we're flirting. That's very real. And even when I watched it back, I found myself smiling. I was like, what are we doing? I was like, I was like invested in their relationship. So I don't want to say there was zero there.
Starting point is 00:34:29 There was clearly something. Like there was a flirtation happening. I will definitely admit to that. So anyways, I asked Justin Bobby how Audrina is going to feel about us going on a date. He says she won't be mad, but that he doesn't want me to go on a date with him out of spite. I appreciated that line. I think that's important. By the way, the whole time this episode, we're cutting back to Spencer and Heidi looking at houses. And so I remember, I can't remember at what point my mom said this either in this season or the next season. But she was like, I look at Spencer and Heidi as comedic relief.
Starting point is 00:35:02 and they literally are that. They are so funny. They are like a sitcom to me, like this old married couple, like kind of bickering and like doing these things together. And I love that they're like the B storyline that you cut to so it's not just like us all the time.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And I love watching them on the show. Also, Spencer says he puts a deposit down on a house without talking to Heidi. Yeah, fucking right. I mean, that never happened. I think that this house was for the show for them as well. I think they had a separate house. I mean, that would just never happen in the real world. I mean, obviously it could happen, but this was all show-led. And, okay, so I'm talking about that. I find the hills to be very entertaining,
Starting point is 00:35:50 way more than Laguna Beach. I don't know, maybe because Laguna Beach, I have a very different feeling about it overall. And I've said this. Just feeling more manipulated, where the hills, I knew kind of what to expect going into it. I also had years in between Laguna Beach and the Hills where I could fully wrap my head around what just happened, like this character they wanted me to play, how, okay, I'm totally misunderstood out there in the media. I just had time to like gather my thoughts and take a break and come up for air. And so going into the hills, I was excited. I was re-energized and I leaned into it. So I needed that time in between. But I found the hills to be, or I am,
Starting point is 00:36:31 I'm finding the hills to be just so entertaining. Like, I can see why it was a good show. I really can. And I don't think I could look at it from that lens back in the day because I was too emotionally invested in it. We're now, obviously, I'm just watching it as a viewer. But I still do get a little, like a little amped up. Like, even the London hotel scene.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I'm like, I didn't do anything wrong. I feel like I'd have to, like, defend myself. Anyways. Okay, so now we're at STK, which was a very popular. went back in the day. I was always fucking there. And they do have Justin and I going on a date, Justin Bobby and I. And I get there and I say I thought twice about going because Adriena has clearly has feelings for you. And I know that feeling when you like a guy, but he's moved on and it sucks. And Justin again, downplays what they had. And I say the one guy you can't get, you'll always have a
Starting point is 00:37:24 thing for. And then I tell him, I haven't dated in a really long time. And, Oh, I thought it was interesting because I also say that I know immediately if I'm going to be attracted to someone or not. I say that to Justin Bobby. And that holds true, guys. Here we are all these years later and it's nothing is fucking changed. And then he gets into asking me what my sign is. I tell him I'm a cat report and how clean my house is. And this is so random. I listen, the editing on these shows is impeccable. But to me, this didn't make any fucking sense. And I out of nowhere, I mean, I guess we're talking about how clean my house is. but I go, I have the best bed.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Like, what? And I just feel like, obviously I said it, right? You see my mouth moving. And I do this sometimes where I say shit like that where when you hear it back or you're watching it in scene and with a guy, you're like, oh, she's obviously flirting. But like, I wasn't flirting. That wasn't me being like, yeah, we got to get in my bed. It was me just being like, I have the best.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Like, my house is clean and I also have the best bed. Like, I'm sure I listed other things too. It wasn't like that was going. only thing I said. That's where I mean, like, the editing is just kind of wonky. But it definitely comes off like, I'm like, hey, yeah, let's get in my bed. And then he goes, oh, I think he says something like, we got to break that thing in someday. And I'm like, that's what I'm saying. That never, I never would have said that to, like, those three lines. Like, I have the best bed. Got to break that thing in some day. That's what I'm saying. They do not. That was not in the order that they
Starting point is 00:38:53 were said. I can guarantee it right now. They spliced all that together to make it seem like I'm flirting with him and trying to get him in my bed, those fuckers. And, oh, I even say at dinner, because now we're talking about going on his motorcycle. And I even tell him at dinner, I just want to go because I've never actually been on a motorcycle. It's not because I'm into him. I still stand by. Well, yes, I'm flirting with him, but I'm actually, like, not that into it. Like, I'm here.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I'm flirting because I'm a flirt. But also, like, I'm doing this for the show. And the thing is, at this point in my career, I didn't feel like I could say no to anything. And I was also a team player at this point. Like, now as an adult, like, doing honestly cavalry or even very caballery, I said no to fucking everything. Like, I was like, no, I'm not doing that because I understand my value now. Like, I understand what I bring to the table. But at this point, I just didn't feel like I had enough experience under my belt to be able to say no. I didn't know that was an option. Let's put it that
Starting point is 00:39:50 way. I got it. And I wish I could remember if I said no to anything. I'm sure at some point I must have been like, really? But like, I mean, I made out with Justin Bobby because it was producer led on camera at a club. I made out with a bartender in Costa Rica who was gay, by the way, because the producers asked me to because they wanted to get picked up for another season. I mean, like, I was always like, okay, I'll do. Like, I was always down. I was a team player where. So when they're like, hey, we want you to go to STK and meet Justin. And I'm like, okay. Like, I didn't, like, it's my job. It's like, it was like a scripted show. Like, this is the scene we're filming today. You're to be with this person, like, and then bring a change of clothes, then we'll do another scene.
Starting point is 00:40:30 It was like, okay, like, this is my schedule coming from my producer. It wasn't like, but I would, but I would never do that in my real life. Like, that just didn't even cross my mind. So just table that and put that in your back pocket while we do all these episodes. So that's it. So that's how the episode ends with our dates. And Justin and I do go on that motorcycle. And that was the first time I was on that motorcycle. And I'm excited to watch that episode because I'm having so much fun doing these episodes. And so we'll see what we get into the next time because I have no idea what happens on next episode. So I will see you guys for that one. Thank you for tuning in. And I will see you guys
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