Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - Why I Can't Date An Actor with Justin Anderson

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

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The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This is Let's Be Honest with Kristen Cavalery, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality TV, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. All right. Justin's back, guys. Hello, ladies and gentlemen. And today is going to be fun because we're actually going to play sip or spills. like the old days. Your favorite game.

Your favorite game. So we have written questions for each other. We have no idea what's coming our way. No idea. No idea. And we are actually going to play with a new drink. I'm excited to show you guys. Palua that everybody knows and loves.

I don't know if you guys are fans of espresso martinis. You know that I'm a huge Kaluwa fan. I know. I told you this when she told me that what we were doing today, I'm actually like a huge Kaluja at the holidays. every day. I put Klua in my coffee. Every day. No, literally like by the end, once Christmas is over, it's like, okay, we got to like back this up a little bit.

Well, then I think you're going to really like this. So Kaluah partnered with Duncan and they have the caramel swirl cream liqueur. So this is great because it's made with real coffee, real cream, and the real Duncan swirl flavor. This ready to pour liqueur is creamy, irresistibly smooth, and perfectly sippable. So we are just going to do this in a chilled glass. You can put it over ice. You can pour caramel sauce on it. You can do whatever your little heart desires, but just a night. Oh, good. And your ice coffee. I mean, I haven't had the caramel yet, so I'm actually really excited. It really is. It really is good. And I love an espresso martini. Oh, there's nothing better. And that's Kaluas perfect for that. So I'm going to

measure these out. Okay. Two ounces each just. All right. A little bartender. Oh, that would have been fun for you. I could see you out there shaking it up. You would love it to like all the guys at the bar, all eyes on you. You'd have the cutest little outfit on. Maybe a little butt cheek coming out. Exactly.

I would have thrived. Okay. Ooh. I'll hear these glasses too. They're so cute. Cheers. Cheers and taste. Cheers.

Yeah, let's try it. These are so cute these glasses. gave these to me. Really? They're so cute beaks. Yum. Oh, my God. That's so good. It really is good. That's so good. Carmel and coffee. Like, are you kidding me? It's so good. I just want to drink the whole thing right now. Do it. There's more. You can have more. Okay, so before we get into sip or spill, let me just tell you guys where you can find Kalua, Duncan Carmel Swirl at retailers nationwide, including Walmart, Total Wine.

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So we're going to go one and one back and forth. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I'm nervous. You know me like always so dorky. Like why am I always like. No, you're so cute. No, I mean in the sense like you're going to be like goofy and funny and I'm going to

be like coming up with something really deep. Oh. I see. That's okay. I mean, I have kind of a mixed bag. So you go first. Oh, me go first. Okay. Okay. I'm going to start just small. Are you bored living in Nashville? Do you actually like it here? Ooh, that is so good. Honest to God answer, I love it here so much for our home base, right? I don't feel like I'm very challenged here on a daily basis. But I think that I love it for our home base. And you really are a big reason why we stay here. Like, I scoot and I talk about this all the time. And like, I can't move away from you until you're in like a serious relationship. And when your kids are like out of the house, I just really can't.

But with that said, I would never live somewhere where I was miserable. I love our home. I love our neighbors. Our neighbors are a big part of it. Like we don't want to move because of our neighbors actually. Like is another part of it. So yeah, I do love it here. Also, I have the luxury.

I say this all the time. I have the luxury that we can travel all the time. if I was here like a nine to five and my whole life was here, I don't think I would. It's also like not the most like gay place, which I don't need to be in like the gayest place in the world or whatever, but like I don't want to be the only gay guy in the neighborhood all the time, you know? So no, I do love it. And I'll be so for real. I'm so thankful for you that you got us here because like it, it had to happen. I had to get out of L.A. Scoot and I were talking about this two nights ago. Like had we not moved like, I was like, could you

imagine if we were just still in L.A. Oh, my God. How different your life would be. I think also sometimes people that follow us or watch the show very cavalier. Like, people always thought that that was like something for the show. But Scoot and I really were leaving L.A. But it was taking us so long to figure out where. And then I remember I came to film the show another season with you.

And I loved it so much. Then Scoot and I started talking about. So all of that was real. We moved here. But like it happened so fast kind of because of the show. Like the show sped it up. And I'm so thankful for that. Thank God. I'm so thankful that you're here too. I can't imagine if you weren't here in the last

like six years. You and I always talk about like things happening the way that they're supposed to and trusting the process. This was our script. Like this was our life script for like 100%. You know, there are certain things you think in life where you're like, had I taken that turn or done this, I wouldn't have experienced that. There's no way that the universe could have kept you and I away from each other. You know what I mean? We've said that. We're the red string theory. You and me. But we've always said that, like, I know for a fact that, like, we would have found each other have been together no matter what. We really are, like, twin flames. Like, you are a huge part of, like, you're my twin flames. No, literally. Like, there's no way. So, yeah. We were destined to be

together for sure. And we'll be here for, like, quite a bit longer until a lot of... Like eight more years. Yeah. No, I mean, it's, we'll all, we'll for sure keep a house here. Yeah. We're looking right now at, like, beach houses in different areas. We have that condo downtown. I think we're going to sell the condo downtown and maybe like a beach house. house. We love New England. So we want to spend a big part of it there. But yeah, absolutely, I will always have a place here until your kids are gone. Okay, good. Pinky swear. Yeah, because I'll fucking murder you. All right, I love the honesty. Oh, it's my turn. Your turn. Well, we're done.

All right, that's a wrap. Okay. I want to just sip on my drink. It really is so good. It's so good. We deserve it. It's honestly so good. This would be so good in coffee. Wow. God. It's so good. You can taste the caramel. Oh, yeah. It's like the perfect amount of caramel. No, it's really, really good. Would you rather relive the Hills reunion or read your old tweets out loud on stage?

Oh, my God. That's funny. Oh, we did do a Hills reunion, huh? Yeah, you wore that gold dress. Remember we've talked about this? I thought you looked so hot that night. And then we pulled up a picture recently. We're like, the fuck. Your extensions. No, literally. Actually, I think that was all my hair. Thank you. Was it? Your hair was so thick and good in that. It must have been because I didn't get extensions past like. You really didn't have a lot of extensions at all. No, I had them, I think, twice, but more when I was like 19 or something.

When your hair was really broken. Once we got your hair healthy, like you have the thickest normal hair. Oh, when I was like so like so blonde for a minute. Yeah. I think it would be really fun to do a Hill's reunion, especially after I just did the Laguna Beach reunion. Like, I would love to get in the same room with Heidi and Spencer and Brody and Adrina and the whole crew. I think it would actually be more entertaining. I think it would be because it's bigger personalities. Yeah, those people, there are, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And people who are not afraid to just, like, put it all out there. Do you have old tweets and stuff that you're mortified about? I don't think so. I never was like a crazy tweeter. So were you? Well, no, but I'm not famous. No one would care what my tweets were back

in the day. But I always think about that because you know how much I like to talk in social media. I say like whatever is on my mind or whatever. If I was like famous and the Twitter was a thing, I would probably be canceled by now. The shit I used to say. Yeah. I mean, I never would have said like I just talked too much. So yeah, I would be afraid of. I was always because I was famous then. So I was always very careful at like what I was saying. But a lot of people weren't so. Wait, like made Chrissy Teigen famous because of what she was saying. Remember she was like so controversial, but she was funny. That was like how people started to. know who she was.

Yeah. Love it. Okay, that was a good one. Is there a guy that you think I miss or that I still think about? Oh my God. You're such a bitch. You're like trying to get me in trouble right now. There's the whole point of zipper spill.

I love. Because then you can be like, I'm going to sip. I'm not answering. I actually love this shit, by the way. I know. So don't hold back. I love it. Is there a guy that I think that you miss?

Or like still think about. Can I be honest? Yeah, that's the whole point. Are you going to get mad at me? No, I'm not going to get mad at you. When have I ever gotten mad at you and been like, I'm mad at you? No, not that you would get mad at me. The thing that I ever think about is a headline.

Okay, fair. If somebody, if I said something. No, I actually don't. I think that you're very good about kind of like moving on and that being a thing of your past. I think there's still something cute about Mark to the both of us. Because I think that since you're divorced, Mark, like, I think you felt something like, it was like young puppy love. And I don't think you felt that in a really long time.

I don't think there's even a part of you that wants to go back to him. And I know that you've 100% closed that door, like, closed it. But I think that probably sometimes you're like, oh, we were so sweet and cute together. It was so easy. Yeah. Would you agree or no? Look, she's pissed. I'm not pissed.

And he's hot. I mean, like, I was just going to say. I would miss the body. I want to grab that little weight. He is so hot. Like, his body and his face, like, no one's hotter. Like, I'll never take that away from him. I actually don't miss our relationship or, like...

So maybe I'm just thinking about the body. It's, I'm a, yeah, his body. And maybe I answered for myself because I sometimes miss him. I miss him. I liked him, like the sweetness. Like, it was too easy for me. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, it wasn't challenging in any way.

Like, I need a little bit more. And again, that's, I think it's just his age. But his body, yeah. His body. Love body. loved seeing how much he loved like the way he looked at you made me happy like as your best friend I was like oh like really whatever yeah no it was sweet it's that time guys let's take a quick second I first want to talk to you guys about armrah in a world that's constantly changing your

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Spencer would keep me entertained. That's what I was thinking because I think anybody else would like, duh, Brody, like you could hook up or whatever. I want Spencer to make me laugh. Spencer is like just fucking hilarious. Yes. Spencer would keep the good times rolling. And also he would probably figure out a way to get us out of the deserted island.

Oh yeah, 100% way. He would find Wi-Fi and he would start like calling out to the congressman. Yeah, he would figure it out. I like that. That's a good one. Rank my more serious relationships in order of how you liked them since my divorce. I mean, there's not like there's been a ton, but like Jason, Jeff. Mark.

So you're leaving the famous ones out. Ooh. Oh, well, I mean like. Oh, like serious. Like where they were like, there were like something. Nate? Could you say Nate?

Mm-hmm. Okay. Is there one more we want to throw in just for shits and gigs? Who are you thinking? You're thinking Morgan? What? Who are you thinking? Yeah.

No, no, I'm actually just trying to think of them all because there's like a lot of guys but I'm trying to consider what I would consider to be serious. Or like Nate wasn't like serious, but you know, like. I think it was in the sense that like there was a, serious connection because even like you guys talked for a while before you hung out a bit so I would but there wasn't like a proper breakup and it wasn't like months and together okay so the question is rate them in order of how you've liked them I don't know I'm not gonna say oh okay I'm like a people

pleaser I know I know well and here's the thing too like that would be fun for me if I hated those guys and if yeah if you weren't on camera That would be fun for me if I wasn't on camera. Totally respect that. Okay. You just wanted to drink because it's so good. I love my Kahlua. You love your Kalua.

Okay, this is kind of fun for us. Who's more high maintenance, me or you? I mean, hmm, you. Yeah. Me too. That was really stupid. No, but it's because, like, Scoot takes really good care of you. Like, in that.

scent. I actually don't think you're high maintenance, but like a lot goes into taking care of you. Kristen, I think I've actually the most high date is for the order. So like that's the but like you're not high maintenance in the sense that like it's easy to travel together. Like you go with the flow. You're not like mad if it's a bad table or you don't know what I mean. Like you're easy going. But there is a lot that is required in the maintenance of you. Yeah. Yeah. And I have a lot of like expectations in life and all that. You're way more good with the flow. Yeah. I don't think I'm high maintenance at all actually. You're not at all. No. That's like we've talked about this before, but I think that's the thing that people would be the most shocked about is like, you are chill, bro. Very. I can take,

like, it's so nice to have a friend that you can take anywhere and they'll just adapt. You know, you'll chat with whoever. You're like, whatever, this is fine. Yeah. If I'm like, I'm so sorry. Like, I'm like so nervous that people aren't going to have a good time. So like whatever. And you're so easy like that. Yeah. You can throw. me in any situation. Okay, that was a good one. Okay, what's your favorite and least favorite thing about me? My favorite and least favorite? Yeah. My favorite thing about you, there's so many. There's so many. There's so many that I'm trying to think of what my actual, like, real favorite thing about you. My favorite thing about you is like how much effort you put into the relationships

in your life. Like, I've never had a friend like that, like where it's like, you really put the time in and you make it like a priority. And it's like I've also learned like the longer that we've been friends. I've learned that like the reason your friend group is so small is because you really treat them all so special, you know. So that's my favorite thing. My least favorite thing about you is that you're not as lazy as me and like want to watch TV as much to me.

I want you just like lay on the couch with me at least once a week and just like binge watch a show or watch a movie. Like that's the only thing that annoys me about you is I'm like, I want to drug you sometimes. I thought about it. Force me down. Yeah, like, bring you over and I'm like, this is some electrolytes or this, here,

have some of this chicken broth and I'll put a Xanax in it. You're like, yeah, you always send me shows and movies too. And I'm like, okay, I'll get to it. Yeah.

I could send you them every day. I know better now. Because also her response is like, she's like a little bitch. Like when you respond, I'm like, okay, this isn't a business,

a brand deal, like a business dealer or something. Like, it's very matter of that. Yeah, she's like, actually my schedule is really full right now, just.

and I don't have time for that show. I'm like, oh, my apologies. My goodness, cancel your Netflix, sweetie. You don't have time for anything. I literally should cancel my Netflix and all my fucking things. Okay. Hmm. What do you think I need to change when it comes to dating?

What am I doing wrong? What am I doing wrong? Maybe not what I need to change, but like, is there something that you're like, well, you do that to yourself? Like, this is what you're doing. Oh my God. I swear to God, you're trying to get me to say something. And then you're going to punch me.

She's going to fucking hit me. No, I really don't. We've talked about this, too. I think that you're actually really good at dating. Like, I always get nervous when I see people who, like, will date and they're not themselves. So they put on a show. You are the queen of being authentic, right? So you show up exactly how you are.

So, no, I think the guys need to change. Yeah, that's not. And I've said this thing, you know, yeah, we got in a little bit of a fight about it. because I think like you're so perfect. I think the whole world would fall in love with you. I think people need to step up. Like some of the people that you've like been on dates with and stuff. So no.

But the one thing that we talked about just recently, like, and I was saying sometimes you'll do this thing and it's so cute and I relate to it so much. You and I love love so much. And we love like having a crush and we love the excitement of like meeting someone that you're excited about. And I think that at this point in our life, like you get to a point where like, and especially somebody like you, You have to pull that back a bit because they take that as this woman wants to marry me tomorrow.

You know, but it's you being genuine because you're genuinely excited. Like even when we go on vacation, like if we meet someone randomly at a bar or something and they are interesting to you, like you're excited. Yeah. Like you still have that like kid like quality, which I do too. Like you and I are very similar like that. But when you're dating, I think it they get attached way too quick. I know. I'm trying really hard to make a conscious effort.

to like pull back a little even when I'm excited because yeah I think I get so excited because it doesn't happen that often so then when it does I'm like I'm like I can't wait but then all of a sudden I wake up and I'm like I'm over them you guys she'll send me or like oh she'll send me screenshots of like text messages or like she'll show me her phone like look what we're saying like I'll go a little bit further and like read what she's saying like I want to see what what he said and you're like yeah right bitch I want to see what he said But they always started with, you know, it's like, it's always so passionate. Like, I'm crazy about you or whatever.

And like, but you kind of play a law. I know I do. But what are you supposed to do? Like, thanks. Like, you're just like, true. Like, you're so amazing. I've never met a girl like you. And you're like, thanks.

I know. Everyone says that. I know. It's like, it's hard. It's hard. But I'm trying not to be like, oh my God, I know. I think you're blah, blah, blah. Like what I don't know.

You know what's funny, though, because we've talked about this like recently a lot. you know it would suck you know what if you have a friend and your friend asks you for advice and you give that friend advice and they never listen again the reason that i love you like we listen to each other's advice and we take it seriously like that's why i'm never like worried about you like you know those girls like what should i say should i call him again you're like don't call that guy he fucking chees me three times and then they're calling him again like with you i actually it's like the opposite like you know what i'm saying like i'm never worried about that stuff with you so even when we talked about that i'm like maybe with the texting at the

beginning you could pull back a little bit let them do the schmoozing also you feel it out you know because it's different for them like you break their heart bro i know that's i know and i know that and that's why i'm trying really hard now to like just pull back a little because i know i know my pattern and it's really excited and then a 180 and i'm over you but what's funny too is people could be like oh so does christin love bond people no it's actually it's actually you like you're genuinely excited Yeah. Like, you're just excited. It's fun. And like, um, and I enjoy talking to men. Like, I just do. I like men. Yeah. And so, yeah, they take it. But, but by the way, there's been a lot of people where I'm like, hey, heads up. Like, you know, this will never work. Like, we're just friends. Like, I have a couple guy friends. I mean, you know one of them. But I'm always like, I'm not dating you. Like, if you want to hang out and get coffee, like, it's not a date. I'm, like, very upfront about stuff. But guys, like, still, they like, still think they're going to change my mind or something. I don't think that you could have straight guy friends unless they're married.

I don't because, well, I do, but I know that they like me. Yeah, like they would, they were, they were fucked. They're down to fuck. They would in a second. Yeah. In a fucking second. It's so hard. Like, people always talk about that like, can straight men and women be just friends?

I don't think so. I think it has to be like if the levels are off. Like, yeah. Like if the guy's like super hot and then the girl's not or vice versa. Right. But then the one always ends up having a crush or something. One always likes the other. I know.

I know. I know. It's so hard, though. Like, that's just human nature, though, because attraction, you can't fight it. If you're like, that's why a gay guy and girl is so good. I'm obsessed with you. I don't want to touch your pussy at all. Yeah, same. I know. I literally. Same. I don't want to touch your pussy either. But I'm obsessed with you like a straight guy. But I don't think that like I own you or I'm not like who you talking to. I know. Why didn't you call me last night when you got back to your room? But that's why girls in. girls and gays and girls blah blah whatever right it's hard like the attraction you can't bite though no you cannot is there somebody famous or kind of known that you have a crush on right now that you can't say out loud are we trying to manifest yeah like is there anyone that you like i know before you like made the joke about kevin coster in the notes like everyone talked about yeah that was everywhere yeah no i mean i really no and i said it probably after stage coach but

like Brandon Splinar for me is like he's so hot and like he's that the type of guy that I want but I think he's in a relationship and he's an actor and I would never date an actor and I mean I'd you know if I had my chance it would have been at stage coach so why wouldn't you date an actor I feel like a lot of people who don't spend a lot of time around Hollywood don't understand why people say stuff like that okay fair good question for a couple reasons one is the schedule like their schedules are awful he's going to be on set. Well, I'll get to do the other thing. But yeah, logistics wise, he, the scheduling would be a nightmare and they can't, he wouldn't be able to travel to me all the time. Also, typically, actors are

very insecure. And I think that's why they become actors because they're seeking outside validation. And I think a lot of them can be like, just really cheesy and just a bunch of nerds. Tell you how I really feel. Acting is so funny. Like, do you ever think about this? Like, I I think about it a lot. And I'm no shade to, like, drama kids in high school because I loved, I wanted to be one, but they wouldn't let me let me let me be a part of drama. Why? You'd be so good. I would have been fabulous.

It would have changed my whole life. You know, like I could have been on Broadway. I love Broadway so much. I hung out with all the jocks and we had a drama department and the guy who ran the drama department hated all of my friends or hated all the jocks. So when I tried to sign up for drama, he literally wouldn't let me. Did you think you were like doing it as a joke? I think maybe he thought

I wouldn't take it seriously and it was like he just didn't want that kind of energy in the drama that's so shitty. It was so weird I was so upset about it but anyways I was gonna say it's so funny like actors like we like raise actors and they're like on celebrity and people are screaming

at the end of the day they're just the drama kids at school they're pretending to be someone they're not. They're making believe and it's so cool you guys I'm the biggest moviegoer and I love Broadway theater. I'm like a huge fan but like it's kind of geeky. It's an adult like pretending to be someone out. You're playing for 10, which is a cool career. Also, like, we idolize these people and they're not for a character,

for words that were written for them. Well, it's like the funniest thing ever because whenever I talk to people about Hollywood, like the thing that people don't realize, it's the biggest dorky town in the whole world. And it's all fake. Yeah, you go to like an Oscar part. It's Dork City. They're just nerds. And then, oh, you know what I think is so funny is social media is kind of broken the excitement of actors because when you start to see too much of your favorite actors you're like oh my god they're kind of a geek right i don't really care what they're saying they say the dorkiest thing yeah when they're reading when they're doing the scripts then we can kind of whatever but when you start hearing them and my thing a lot of them that i was would be

around and i'm like fucking dorks i know i know no no it's true so that's why yeah i won't date an actor and actor like men in particular something about a man being weird right it's not like it's not sexy yeah and I think that it's like the amount of drama and emotion that has to come with that type of a person you know like they'd be crying and you'd have to hold them like a little bitch yeah you know what I mean yeah that's a certain personality type that's what I'm saying I can't I can't do it they are no yeah can't do it do it do you have another horrible story about doing hair that we don't know about either a time that you messed up someone's hair or when a celebrity was an absolute nightmare. And I know you've said a few, but is there one more

you'd want to share? I have so many. And it's like the only thing that holds me back, because I, I want to say everything is it's like, it's still a, when I was doing hair, I was getting paid lots of money for it. So I feel like there's a loyalty to like, I can't talk about people who paid me a lot of money and then tell their secrets right one day i do want i actually i've been thinking about slightly a lot one day i do want to write a book and maybe change the names or something because the stories that i have are insane you should do that and just change the names i really want to and i want to like change names because i have the craziest stories ever because like i went into everyone's home like i saw like a first hand like and i was going back over and over and i was the type that like people kept

me for a long time like a lot of people would bounce around with their like hair and makeup and whatever. I had very loyal people. So I really got to know a lot of people. But the bad ones would always end up going away. I actually fired a lot of people. There were a lot of people who I said, we're not a matcher. I would tell their assistance, I can't go back because it just was not worth it. Like their energy was so fucking weird. So anyone that I've ever talked about celebrities, if I've shown pictures of them with my work or whatever, it's because I love them. I love all people. But yes, I have some crazy-ass stories. There was one celebrity who was really big at this time known to be a little bit kooky but a big actress and I went to do her hair the first time

say her name and I'll bleep it out you promise I so of course oh like I have a story about her too so I went to her house for the first time ever and the assistant brought me in to do her hair like oh come back this way like you're going to do her hair back here we're going to work whatever butt naked have I told you this story I don't think so I don't know but naked like hey how are you good to meet you or whatever and I was like and I was like okay like just like what do you want to do with your hair just butt naked right and then like so we're doing the hair she just wanted to be butt naked the whole time she was smoking cigarettes while we're doing the hair I'm like this is like fucking weird like and at the time like I would have like an occasional cigarette so I wasn't

judging but it was just the whole experience was weird went to wash the hair in the bathtub bent over just hotbox up in the air it's like her hairy hotbox just up in the air and I was just sitting there like what is my life right now? So I was on a plane with her one time. Jack and I, my pelvisist. And she was like in the same row, but, you know, on the other side. She had a bag of pills, a bag of pills. And then she'd be going through them, popping pills the entire flight.

It was, I think we were going from New York to L.A. She went in the bathroom. I'm not kidding for two hours. Came out full glam. Full glam heels, the whole thing. But she was like stumbling, like falling over. Just popping pills the whole flight. We were both like, like, what the fuck?

And that makes so much sense. Like she was out of her mind. Yeah, she's popping pills. That's a good one. I have crazy out stories. That's so good. I love those. I love it.

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or that you kind of didn't mind that it was out there? Wow, that is such a good question. That's such a good question. It's funny, because... I don't think there's ever been a time where I've been like, yeah, because usually I feel like it's, I always get like the shitty end of stuff in the media. I don't think there's ever been a time where I've been like,

it's not true, but can I tell you one thing that was so funny recently? When you and I discovered, so there was this one video that was like so fucking ridiculous that was breaking down Kristen's face. Have we talked about this on the pod? I don't think so. I think I maybe mentioned it.

Oh, you did? But the way that this one was explaining all this work that you've done that I know for a fact you have not done at all. And I was like, my God, like they really just think you're the perfect person you had to pay for all of it. Okay. Right. So that's not really like a rumor. But I was really mad about it at first. And then I think, yeah, you were the one who was like, it's actually a compliment. And I was like, okay, I'll take. You're right. I'll take it as a compliment. Yeah. She thinks I've had a ton of work done when I haven't. That woman, by the way, bugs the fuck out of me. Somebody just. She's trash. She did like another. She did like another. person that I used to work on so somebody sent me that video so I looked at it again and again she was off on everything she was saying she was wrong. This woman who does injectables in California and she just breaks down people's faces

she's just she's a rotten person. Well the shit about me I'm like she has zero credibility in my eyes like she has no fucking clue. You got your hairline pulled down or up. Yeah I'm something about my forehead is what? Like girl come on and then you had like

a bluff. Like all kinds of shit. Yeah. Jaw line filler. Oh, yeah. I can't even. It's like so outrageous that I just, yeah, it's ridiculous. What's so weird about that is you're the person who would tell people.

Like, you talked about your boobs, getting them in and out. You talked about getting Botox and you hated it. And you and I send the pictures to each other when you did get that discord. I posted on my Instagram. I look crazy. Like a crazy person. Yeah, I look crazy. That was just like one of those things where I'm like, well, you should feel good

because that woman thinks that you spent a million dollars on plastic surgery. Also, because the thing is, too, I think I did talk about this at one point, because I said, if you're going to do a comparison, it has to be no makeup to no makeup. And I'm sorry, but if anyone takes a photo from when they're 18 to 38, you're going to look a little different. It's so weird to me that people on the internet don't get it because even people in the comments on all of these different videos or whatever, that people are fighting with and I'm like, do you guys not see the lighting's different?

The girl has a full face of makeup. Well, you go from me doing my own makeup at age 18 to me having mine. professionally done on a red carpet that like the makeup was actually kind of crazy in itself. But like I do look like I had a bluff because I used to wear so much fucking eyeliner first of all and like close off my eyes. I've even learned over the years how to open up my eyes more with makeup. Also, guasha. I'm sorry, it makes a fucking difference. A difference. Microcurrent. All of these things make a difference in your face. Also, I was a fucking boozehound when I was 18 and partying all the time. I was fucking puffy. Yeah,

you couldn't find her depove. Yeah, man. My eyes were smaller because I was so Buffy. Now I take much better care of myself. Like there's just like so much that goes into it and like the angles and this and it's just like it's so ridiculous. Yeah. Anyways. Okay. What's your? Got me heated. I know. That shit does fire me up. Me too. Because it's just so. Yeah. I'm like pissed. And I get pissed for other people when they do it too. It's just because it's so ridiculous and these people are just assuming and they think because they're in the injectable world or it's a plastic surgeon or whatever that they know. Uh-huh. And it's like it's actually really.

reckless that you guys are out there saying this stuff when you don't know. You don't know. Yeah. I think it actually, and this is kind of a gross thing to do, but I actually think it'd be more like responsible if you took people's pictures then and said what you would do to them. Right. You know at that point? Because it's like you're calling out things that these people didn't do. I don't know. I, there's for some reason, whenever I see that woman's videos, I get so fucking earth. Because she to me is like so miserable and so unhappy that to me she's doing it to try to like tear everyone else down to make herself feel. better. And I'm like, you're so wrong. And you're so wrong about everything. Well, also,

she should do one on herself. Because if you see a picture of her before and after, it's like mind-book. Just because you had to put a whole new head on your neck. Doesn't mean that everybody else did it. So she's projecting. Yeah. So she's projecting because she can't believe that people like can take care of themselves and look good and like better makeup, whatever. Also, I'm sorry, but getting rid of toxic everything in your life, including toxic relationships, fucking chemicals you're putting in your body. All of those things make a difference. working on yourself, like finding your light and getting rid of negativity and toxicity in your life makes a difference in how you look. You know what I'm always shocked about you? How white your eyes are.

I wonder what surgery she would say you did for that. I wonder. But it's like, but really, right. It's because I take care of myself. Yeah, you're so clean. Yeah. Are they really? Are they really? Are they really? I think that's like the, you're looking into somebody's health, like the tongue and the top. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. When we did that detox, she was saying like notice your eyes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I noticed it definitely when you cleaned it up. Was that the last question? I've got one more. Okay, what is your least favorite and favorite thing about Scoot?

Oh my God. I am such a fucking cheeseball when it comes to Scoot. Like, I'm just so, so in love with him. Like, I feel so lucky to have him. Like, beyond, he's like beyond anything I ever could have imagined for being in love. So I love how in our relationship, I love how scoot, I'm a hothead like you are. Like I like to like not talk shit, but I get excited and I get passionate and I get pissed about things and I want to like, and he's such a good listener.

He'll kind of let me go through it. But he does this really good thing that nobody else has really done in my life before where he knows how to de-escalate me in a way that doesn't feel like judgment. You know how like your mom could say to you like, Kristen, you're being dramatic. And it just makes you even more mad. Or like, take a breath, Kristen. Or like, take a walk. Calm down.

Yeah, calm down. And then you would have ripped their face off, right? But Scoot will kind of let me. And then he says something, but he puts it into perspective, like, in such a smart way. And so I'm like, I'm really grateful for that, you know? And then I just love so many things about it. I mean, he's honest to God, the kindest person I've ever met the world. I mean, you know how he is.

He's just the sweetest person. My least favorite thing is getting ready together. you know that like when we travel together because I can get ready in five minutes I always know what I'm going to wear and like when I pack I pack outfits right where scoot will bring three huge suitcases and he's like trying different outfits on when we're going to dinner on vacation I'm like what the fuck is going on dude like you know like so he takes forever when he gets dressed maybe I should say something deeper but I don't really think there is no I mean I think that's I think that makes sense that's the only time I ever

see you like annoyed with him yeah it's the time like waiting on him. But it's also, that's been good for me too because it, like, it taught me. I've always said that my worst thing is how impatient it is. I'm very impatient for it. It's taught me patience. I have to like sit in the other room and just breathe or I have to like work on another project. Like when I get ready and we're going to dinner, I go sit in the other room and I like have to put on music and I'm like, okay, I'm going to be here for a while. Right, right, right. You know, there's no racing it. Yeah. You know, or there's things if we're in like a hotel with like a bar. I'm like, hey, babe, I'm going to go down and have a drink at the bar. Take your time.

I'll see me when he come down. We've been doing that a lot. Which is good. Yeah. You figured out how to navigate it. And then the funny thing is, is he's so codependent. He's like, no, wait for me. And I'm like, baby, you got to let me go. I can't just sit in this hotel room staring at the wall while you change outfits 10 times.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. No, wait for me. No, I'm leaving. Okay. Kind of to wrap it's up since it's your podcast. I want to do like a quick, like rapid fire at you.

And let's not even think about it. Just say. Yeah, no. And if you don't want to answer to say no. But just, like, say what comes to your mind first, right? Okay. Most overrated trend right now. Oh, God.

I, like, don't even know trends right now. What are some times? What's something like irks you that you see where you're like, can we not do that right now? Like, for a while, you hated baggy jeans and now a sudden you wear it and they look that pair you got. I know, I live in them now. I'm always like the last one to join anything. Did you like high-wasted jeans?

Yeah, I love them. Oh, really? I still love them. I hated it when it first came out and then I like loved it. It like takes a while for a minute. Yeah. It takes a minute. I know because, like, low rise was everything for a while. I don't even know what trends. I don't pay attention to trends anymore.

Okay. That's all right. All right. Person you text the most that isn't family. Well, you. I didn't do that for me. This is like a very like, I did do it for me. Who is it? I wanted to know. What if I didn't say you? Okay. What's your toxic trait? Getting men to fall in love with me and then dropping them like fly. All right. If the Hills camera came back tomorrow, would you say yes? You know what? No. They've been trying to get us to do like, you know, Jersey Shore does.

Like a vacation thing? Yeah. Oh, that would be fabulous. We've talked about that. You would do. You have to do that. I didn't. At first, I was like, I would do it. This is probably like a year and a half ago. And I was like, yeah, I would do it. And then I don't know. I did honestly Cavalry, the Laguna Beach thing. And I was just like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Never say never. I don't know. Yeah. It also takes a lot out of you. It takes a lot. Like, I just don't know that I have TV in me anymore. You know what I was thinking about recently, too, is it's like TV just in general.

Reality TV is not what it used to be. And I think so many people think like everyone would do reality TV if they could or like people think like if someone does a reality show and then it stops or like, oh, they can't wait for the next show. A lot of people don't realize it's not an enjoyable thing. Even the Laguna reunion, it's exhausting because you're just, you're talking about things you wouldn't normally talk about. and you have to have, I'm sorry to worst everyone's bubble. They even told us what to talk about at the reunion. You know, it's like, it's exotic. It's just, it's, I don't have it in me anymore.

Fair. Worst date location ever. Well, I went on a lunch date. Well, I've gone on, I just, I hate lunch dates. I've gone on, I think, too. Ew, yeah. Like, what are we doing? Like, either let's go to dinner or let's knock it out.

Oh my gosh. That would be the worst, actually. I hate a lunch date. I've gone on two. I don't, I hate them. You, you're stuff. have your jean shorts. Yeah, like, what the fuck do I wear it a lunch?

Also, like, who is time to go to lunch? Oh, my God, I'm sorry. Okay. Biggest ick in a man. Biggest ick and a man. I really don't like when a guy talks about his money. You know, like, we went on, like, a group date or whatever with a guy a couple years ago. And, like, right away, he was talking about how much money he had.

And I was just like, this is, it's so gross to me. it's the gross it's so gross it's so obvious too because you if you've ever really been around people who are successful and do really well they don't want to talk about it exactly you know what I'm you're trying to downplay yeah you should be asking people hey how do you do so it looks like you do well like right right I don't know it's so gross to me because that's an insecurity yeah yeah okay what's the last thing you lied about even if it was like a little lie you have to tell your kids So it would, I'm sure it was something with scheduling, like, oh, I can't. Oh, it was getting drinks with someone in L.A. And I was like, I can't. Okay. Biggest underrated skincare tip.

Guasha? Yeah, guasha. I'd say for sure. I think everyone should be doing that. What is something that you think like people do online that they think is a flex that you're literally like, I think humble brags are really annoying. So like showing off. even a house like your house or like a new car or like any of that anyone who post on a private plane too that's like that's exactly my mind like you can go on a private plane without posting it news flash yeah like any kind of those like humble brags i think are so tacky yeah for sure it's so bizarre to me the house stuff in general because i share everything online and i've always talked about this like because people will say to me like we have a lot of house

for just scoot and I you know and I show two rooms of our house like I always post in the same spot just because it's like I don't want to show and people say to me like give us a house tour like show us around the house I think that's so fucking embarrassing as a like 45 year old man to be like and here's this guest room and let me take upstairs and show you the bedrooms or whatever but I know that that's a very normal thing on social media nowadays but like I just always think about like my mom would be like what is wrong because I came from a family that was very much about don't talk about money. Right. You don't show off. You don't talk about money, you know, whatever. So it's like social media has made it so normal for people to just do like humble brags all the time.

Like it's become so normal. But to me, it like makes my stomach hurt when I see it. And like people with a new car, I'm like I don't, I understand like it's exciting and you're proud or whatever. But I don't know. I just would never do something like that. When my pool is done, I'll show my cool. You're all, I'll just do a reality show and show off myself. Yeah, I'll think I'd have cameras at my house instead of posting it. All right. Well, that was that.

Ladies and gentlemen. Always a pleasure. J.A. Oh, oh, wait. I had one more for you. One more question. Sip or spill. Kaluah, we love you.

Would you ever hook up with someone who went to jail? Or have you ever hooked up with someone who went to jail? Do you have someone in mind that you're like, I mean, Yeah, I think it's, like, not a criminal, but... No, like, have you ever hooked up with anyone who's been to jail? Oh. I just got that. We'll see you next time.

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