Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari - Why I'm Still Single with Justin Anderson

Episode Date: June 2, 2026

Justin and I are back to give you guys an update on why I'm still single. From ghosting “Pierre” after discovering his yacht photo was from 2014, to an airport meet-cute that spiraled wit...hin hours, to the very famous man who pulled out his dick under the guise of “body insecurities,” this episode is absolute chaos, per usual.Also, I'm taking the next two weeks off, but will be back in action at the end of the month. See you then!Wayfair: Get prepped for patio season for way less. Head to https://Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home.Momentous: Head to https://livemomentous.com, and use promo code HONEST for up to 35% off your first orderGood Wipes: Buy any two packs of Goodwipes at Walmart or https://Walmart.com, text them your receipt, and get reimbursed almost immediately for one of them. For more details, head to https://goodwipes.com/HONEST.Ritual: Save 25% on your first month at https://Ritual.com/BEHONESTSalt and Stone: Try Salt and Stone’s discovery set to find your signature scent — Go to https://SaltandStone.com/HONEST and use code HONEST at checkout for 15% off your first order.Shady Rays: Go to https://shadyrays.com and use code HONEST for 40% off 2+ pairs of polarized sunglasses.Bon Charge: Go to boncharge.com/HONEST and use coupon code HONEST to save 15%.For more Let's Be Honest, follow along at:@kristincavallari on Instagram@kristincavallari and @dearmedia on TikTokLet's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari on YouTubeProduced by Dear Media.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a dear media production. This is Let's Be Honest with Kristen Cavalry, a podcast all about getting real and open on everything from sex, relationships, reality TV, wellness, family, and so much more. And just a fair warning, there will probably be some oversharing. Just getting camera ready. Hi. Hi, Justin. Is that camera with the two with a theater or just one?
Starting point is 00:00:28 No, I really should. I actually have a third camera. I should bust it out and get a two shot. Here's the problem. It's just me here. You know what I'm saying? I could hire someone obviously to come and do all that. But it seems like,
Starting point is 00:00:39 oh yeah, producer wise. Like it's just you. I'm like, hi, I'm here. No, no, no, no. For like the logistics of the podcast. Like, I should set up a third camera. But it's like, when am I going to do that? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:51 I love these fitness. Aren't they good? It's really good. Okay, this is the first time that Justin has tried fizzins. Hashtag sponsored. Hashtag co-founder. Yeah. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:01:02 It's really good. These are these new drinks that I just launched called Fizzin. They are sparkling, real juice drinks, and there's protein in them. And this is the first time Justin actually tried one. And you really do, they're good, aren't they? It's really, really good. Like, I would drink these, like, all for the day. So I have, I used to, we've got like a second fridge in my house that I was stocking
Starting point is 00:01:22 it with the fizzin. My kids drink so many of them. Is there a problem with that? No, but I'm just like, you guys. But can you get too much collagen? Not really. I don't think so. But I just, I'm like, I don't want to have to keep asking Fizzin to send me more. So now I just leave them in my garage. I know, but I'm just like, you guys are like, they're like, girl, you're going through so many cases. Like, can your kids?
Starting point is 00:01:41 No, I'm not even kidding. Your kids are glowing. We're fiends. Like your kids, they look like babies. When they first sent them to me to test them, I had my kids with me and they tried them and they were like, mom, you have to do this. They're so good. No, the flavor is amazing. Outstanding. Thank you. Okay, so hi, it's nice to have you back. It's wonderful to be here. Thank you for having me, you guys. We always love when you grace us with your presence. I thought it would be fun to do an episode about why I'm still single.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Because literally every time I ask people like, what do you guys want to talk about on the podcast? They're like, talk about your dating life. And I'm like, the reason I haven't been, you guys, is because I have not been going on dates. And the two or three like little potential dates I could have had or maybe I did have whatever, they've been disasters. So anyways, I just figured I could feel.
Starting point is 00:02:30 I could fill you guys in on why I'm still single. Why does your face look like that? I know you got the facial, but like your face looks so snatched. Really? What the fuck is going on? How do you do this so fast? Well, you swear to God. Yeah, it looks like snatched and tight.
Starting point is 00:02:45 It's the collagen. Is it? Okay, I'm going to chug these. I'm going to burbank me. Wait, do you swear to God? No, you look, your face looks so snatched. I haven't seen you in like two weeks. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:02:55 I'm so happy. I mean, yeah, I went, I got a facial on Saturday, like literally two days ago. and it was honestly the best facial I've ever had. But, I mean, shouldn't do anything on me that was like, you know, groundbreaking. Or maybe she did. Hey, we don't know. No, your face looks really good. Wow, thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:11 I really am happy to hear that. It makes me feel good. Okay, what were we just talking about? You haven't had any amazing dates. Oh, yeah. Okay, so the last time you were here was after the slutty Valentine's Day party. Remember? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:03:23 That was a long time ago. That was February. Goodness. So this, you guys, and nothing was going on at the time. I think I had said I met a guy at that part. party, I ended up FaceTiming with him and I just figured he was too young. Right. Like, I'm not going out with a 30 year old. Come on. I just, I felt the age. So I just said no. But then around the same time, a mutual friend set me up with this guy in New York.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Well, do you have that little smoker's call? I don't know. I sound like I smoked a pack of cigarettes and I swear to God I didn't even have a drag of one. So I'm not sure what's going on. But anyways, so my friend was like, this guy, What should we call him? We should call Pierre. Pierre. Why do I think he's French? He's American, right?
Starting point is 00:04:07 He is, but he thinks he's European. So that's actually perfect. Pierre. Okay, so she's like, Pierre. She posted a picture of the two of us, and she was like, Pierre said he's... Posted a picture of the two of you. She posted a picture of her and I
Starting point is 00:04:19 from, like, L.A. or something. And she's like, Pierra has always had a crush on you. You would love to take you out. And at the time, I'm like, honestly, fuck it. Because I haven't been on a date in months. And I'm like, he's younger than me, probably once, kids. So in my head, I'm already like, it's probably not going to go anywhere. But it's a great attitude to have.
Starting point is 00:04:37 But here's what. She's really going to do it with a positive angle. No, here's what I do. Because I have friends that are like, no, but like, it's good to like get back into the energy of dating like date, like date. Like it's an energy. And I'm all for that. I do believe that. So in my head, I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Okay. He flies to Nashville. It's very easy for me. We go to dinner. It's a really nice date. He's sober, which is. Fine, but why am I... It's fine, just not for me.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Not for me. Why am I always being set up with sober people? I'm not sure what the message is there. I don't think there's a message. I just think it's a coincidence. That we're just living in the sober era. Yeah, yeah. Which is fun. By the way, like, I don't even drink that much, but I do want to be able to go to dinner once in a while and have a few drinks with my boyfriend. Like, that is important to me. On vacation, drinking, getting drunk once in a while, I got to do it. Yeah, I mean, that's a real thing. Yeah. I don't want to drink at home and I don't want to, I want to go weeks without drinking. But when I do drink, I want to get lit. Well, that's the thing that's so funny about you. And I talk about like, we can go weeks without drinking. But then when we go out vacation, we have a ton of fun and we let loose or whatever. And I love that. I don't ever want that to change, you know. But I do think about the thing like, I don't think I could be with somebody who's sober. Because if I was on a vacation with someone and I was drinking and not like you and I ever get sloppy and hammered or anything. You and I actually really hold our stuff together. But you can tell when you're sitting with someone who's had a few drinks.
Starting point is 00:05:59 So I'd be like, they're judging the shit out of me. Well, and because everyone becomes annoying when you're sober and everyone's drunk. And I wouldn't want my boyfriend to be like, oh my God, shut the fuck up. Yeah. Even though I do stand by, I think you and I are like pretty ten and two. Even when we're like completely gone. No, we are. But I didn't think that you and I in particular, like we get loud and we want to laugh.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And it's kind of like if someone's not on that level, I also am kind of like, go home. No, it's true. You know, why are you here? That was like when I was pregnant, I was never, I never want to. it to go out. Like, you couldn't pay me to go out. But I think that's in our own head because actually there are sober people who are really fun. Okay. So someone in L.A., not that long ago, who was also sober, I asked him about going out. And he was like, here's the thing with annoying people. He's like, if you're annoying drunk, you're probably annoying sober. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:06:45 oh. Or even more annoys. Right. It just enhances it, right? I think we're more fun drunk. A thousand percent. We're fun. More outgoing. I'm like, I'm your best friend when I'm drunk. Everyone. Everyone, everybody. If I'm drunk, definitely come up and say hi. Okay, so, but it was a good day and he didn't like act sober. He wasn't like annoying about being sober. And it was fun, but it was kind of one of those things. He wasn't like a vegan about it.
Starting point is 00:07:13 He wasn't a vegan about it. I could date someone sober before I could date vegan. Me too. I couldn't date someone who's vegan. And I'm sorry if you're vegan. I just, I don't enjoy that kind of talk. It's just too much. It's a lot of judgment.
Starting point is 00:07:25 It's a lot of judgment. Right, because you were over here like crushing steaks and shit. They're going to be judged. for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not for me. I also wouldn't want to date someone who does CrossFit. Oh my God. Do you know that that's like a huge part of why my ex broke up too? Like he got really into CrossFit and it's such a dorky cult. It's so weird how obsessed they all get with each other. It's like a weird fraternity. Yeah. And like if you're not doing it, you're so on the outset. I could never date a CrossFit person. No, never. And they love to talk
Starting point is 00:07:53 about it. Same thing as being a vegan. Like it's all they ever talk about. Right. I know we're stereotyping guys. But, That's okay because that's just what we do. Okay, so it was a good date and I, but do you remember I called you? And I really hope he never hears this because I hate saying this, but I'm just being honest. Remember I called you on the way home and I was like, I honestly don't care if I never see this man ever again. Yeah, I remember that. All right. But then I'm continuing to make plans with him because this is also the shit that I do. So we keep talking. He's hot though. It's like I get it. He's hot. And he was fun. Like there were things about him. So we go to London for spring break and we
Starting point is 00:08:29 continue talking. And he sent me a photo. And at this point, we had been doing a lot of voice notes. So he sends me a photo of him on a boat on the phone. And he says, listening to your voice notes. And I was like, he looks extra good in that photo. So I save it to my camera roll. And then I went to go find it in my camera roll. And I couldn't find it. So I am like, that's how it happened. Yeah. So like if you save a photo. I hate that the iPhone does this, by the way. If you save a photo, it goes back to when it was taken. Yeah. That's the dumbest feature ever.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I don't know when they took the photo. Dumbest or is it the smartest? If you're dating, maybe. In the dating world, honestly. And girls, also the reason I'm telling you this is so you know if you ever want to send a photo from the past. So I have to find this fucking photo. You know if you go to like recent saved or whatever. And then if you go to your photo and you do a swipe up on it, it tells you all of the information about that photo.
Starting point is 00:09:26 It tells you the date. It tells you if there is, it's been. edited. It tells you like what filter is on it. Fucking everything, right? So this photo was taken in 2014. I know that. So I can't really react. It's 12 years old. Imagine if I was sending photos from 2014. That's before I had Sailor. Like what? I was a different person. And the craziest part is too. Well, A, he looked so good because he was so young, but also he was like really young in that photo. But there was like a like a filter on it. Do you remember I show this? It was like in 2014 when everyone was putting this like the sepia or whatever. Yes, like this filter on it. And then,
Starting point is 00:10:12 and then once I- From disco. Do you remember that app? Yes. I loved that app. Me too. But that was weird because here's the thing. I understand like you want to look good in a photo or whatever, but now you're a liar. I think there's like so many layers to that, how deceptive it is. And also listening to my voice notes. You're a fucking liar. Okay. So I know this story. So I was waiting for you to get it out before I reacted. And my thing is, is he was on that boat when he was texting you. He was really on a boat. He was on the same boat. Maybe the same boat. I think it was on a boat. Yes. And my immediate thought was, okay, he wanted to find a cute picture of him on the phone to like create a moment like, look, this is me on the phone or whatever. I don't necessarily think he meant like,
Starting point is 00:10:51 this is me right now. I thought it was kind of fair. That, by the way, that's fair. No, I don't think it was like the listening to your voice notes I think is more of a joke I agree with you I don't think it was like him actually listening to my he's not trying to pretend like he was really listening to my voice notes but my thing is is why are you going through your camera roll from 14 years ago or are you also sending this photo to every fucking girl okay so that's where your head go because mine doesn't go their mind's like is he trying to create a moment I think it's weird regardless like just snap a selfie or whatever also like I'm not one of those people like people really take this stuff really seriously, like when they send people photos. Like I'm, well, I don't really care.
Starting point is 00:11:29 You don't think that's a big deal? No, I think it, I think it's weird to like find the perfect photo. Like even when I was dating, I used, but I'm bad at this stuff. I would do like a grandpa angle and like just send it to them. Like I don't really think that stuff through. Because also like I would want people to like already know what I look. I don't get the whole like, or trying to find the perfect moment. I'm not that kind of aesthetic. I've seen you in person. Like I know what you look like. Yeah. So that immediately turns. turned you off. But did you say something like, oh, you look so hot, you look cute? And then did he respond to that? I don't even remember. Probably. And because, and that was my biggest standout from it was, I do remember looking at that photo and being like, damn, he looks good. So we were together in London
Starting point is 00:12:12 when that happened, right? And I remember you showed me and I was like floored, right? But then the more I kind of like the photo, the photo was like from further back. Like it was more about the moment. It wasn't like his abs of throat or anything. It was, it was, it was, it was further back. So it was kind of like he was like trying to create a moment or whatever. I kind of wish, I remember we talked about this, but you were like, I'm going to call him out. And I was like, no, you can't do that or whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I kind of do wish you were like, bro, that picture says 2014 to see if he goes, oh yeah, I was just like trying to create like I was trying to share a moment or something. Like I was joking around. But bottom line, oh my God, that would be mortified in if he's listening right now. I know. Because my only drawback of a podcast is like, I want to say all the things, but I also feel so bad to be here. I'm trying to think if there's ever a situation where I would do something like that.
Starting point is 00:12:56 If I was talking to somebody, but I'd probably mention it in the message, be like, oh, here's me in Italy 10 years ago. I'm in the same spot now. Because by the way, the fact that you're going to send someone new that you're talking to, a photo that old, like how does that even cross your mind? I couldn't tell you one photo that I have from 2014. Oh, so you're thinking even it might be in his favorited. I think he sends it often.
Starting point is 00:13:20 That's what you send out. So that's, okay, so ultimately then I think like where I got to, because I was like, that's fucking weird. I think he has it so accessible because he uses it often with a lot of different girls. Oh, and it's kind of like the bragging of a yacht. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The yacht. The yacht. His body looks good. He's in a bathing suit. Honestly, like, his dick looked fucking big in his bathing suit. Like every- I don't see that picture. Yeah. Like, everything was like working, you know? And so, okay, let me pull this up. Okay. So that's what it is. I think like when I really thought about it, that was more of like my issue.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I can understand that if you have like, if someone said like, oh, send me a nude. By the way, this photo is the very last photo in all of our photos because of the date.
Starting point is 00:14:00 And by the way, look at this fucking, the filter on it just kills me. It just kills me. Wait, okay, it's actually way different than I remember you guys.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I thought it was from further away. No, this is straight on. He looks like he is a boner. Right? He looks like he is a boner. He is sexy. Just,
Starting point is 00:14:19 no. Say the course. Focus. I'd also like to say for the record, he's a really nice guy and like really cool. Like, he's not a douchebag. By the way, even the more fucked up part about this is that I hung out with him in New York after all. Like, this didn't even matter. It mattered for about five seconds.
Starting point is 00:14:37 And you still didn't say anything about it, right? No. And I really, I almost did though. No, that's the thing. It's like I actually like it. So, okay, after that, I like slowly started removing myself from the situation. And then I ultimately tried to just ghost him. Yeah, not my typical mood, but I just...
Starting point is 00:14:52 Because that tells you liar energy? Yeah. Wow, yeah. Yeah, and I just think, like, it's gross if you have photos that you're... Like, I do not have one photo in my phone that I'm consistently sending to... I mean, I also have no guys in my phone, but like even when I have, I didn't even do shit like that. Girls don't even do that shit. No, well, isn't everything about that supposed to be, like, spontaneous?
Starting point is 00:15:13 Like, you're supposed to sound like in the moment. Yes. And he tried to make it seem like it was in the moment, listening to your... That's what I'm saying. Because now that I see the picture, it is direct. rect on. For some reason, I remembered it being from further away and with him just sitting there. So, yeah, that's like very specific. Yeah. And then listening to your voice notes, no, I'm sorry, sir. When you send a picture back, is yours always in the moment? Always. Fucking always. Again, I wish I had like,
Starting point is 00:15:37 you know, my, what's the word? My repertoire. Yeah, your stash. My stash of photos. I don't have that. I know which photos. Because also, you can see the date on them. You can't do it. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Yeah. And girls, you can't be putting filters on them now. You can't use FaceTune. I have you guys in the, what I have done when I'm sending a guy something. And this is screenshot it. Well, I wish, I think we've tried that. But I will sometimes like smooth out the veins like in my hands or my feet. And I sent one, I think to him actually to peer. And when I scrolled up on it, it said FaceTune. And I was like, oh my fucking God. He's going to think I'm like editing myself when I'm really not. That is so. necessary too, by the way. But I guess it's in like the, we live in a time where it's like calling
Starting point is 00:16:24 out AI and calling out when things aren't real. But like, you can edit out a bruise on your hand if you want to. Oh my God. I wasn't like changing my body shape. Oh my God. How do the Kardashians send anything? They can't. Oh my goodness. Maybe they, maybe it is the screenshot. I feel like we tried that though. I can't remember. We'll have to redo it again. Yeah. Problem with a screenshot is I feel like the quality is never as good. Yeah, they say that, but I feel like it's not really necessarily true. Even if you zoom in. Zoom in probably.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Zoom in. Zoom in. Well, anyway, so I did ghost him. And then finally he was like, hey, like, where you been? Blah, blah, blah. And then I was. Well, you're not telling the whole story. No, I will.
Starting point is 00:17:05 No, no. Okay. There's like a few parts of this. Oh, yeah, part two parts. And yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it. Got it. And so I was just like, hey, I'm not all in.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And like, I have to be all in on something to give something time and energy. Blah, blah, blah. Okay, great. We ended well. So then I was in New York a few times in April. And the second time I was there with Beeggs, he texted me. And he was like, how long are you in New York for? Because he saw you on social media.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I guess, yeah. And so I was like, funny. I'm actually here for another night. Anyways, there's a group of us. We went to dinner. We ended up having a lot of fun. You had a lot of fun. We had a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:17:39 And he is great. He's very fun. He's great. And for so many reasons, I think the thing for me is, I stand by the fact I'm not all in. I have to be all in to make you a priority. And right now it's just hard. I think in a couple weeks my life's going to settle down a little bit. But right now with the end of school and Miami swim and just like all of these things,
Starting point is 00:17:59 I don't really have time for someone at the moment. And then he goes to Europe for like the whole summer. So I don't know. That's fine. Where is he going to Europe? Will we cross paths? Oh, I told him that we're going to be in my work. He was like, oh, I can come over.
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Starting point is 00:21:46 Okay. So I've been like, I don't know, because right now it's travel basketball season. And even when it's not my weekend, my schedule's a little up in the air until I get their schedule. And a lot of times, I don't know until the day before, like what it's going to look like the next day. So Saturday, Camden had games. And then I knew his schedule the next day. And I was like, I know this is last minute. You want to come to Nashville tomorrow. Camden only has a game at 11 and then I can hang. And he was like, it was late at Saturday night. And he was like, okay, I'm going to look at flights later. He's like, I'll let you know, you'll probably be sleeping. He's like, but obviously I really want to. And I was like, no, I know. Great. I wake up Sunday, nothing from him. I don't hear from him until
Starting point is 00:22:21 5 p.m. And he said, here, literally, I'm not responding because I'm going to ghost again. He said, Oh, this is after the fun night in New York. Yeah. This is like literally yesterday. Oh, you didn't tell me about this. This is yesterday at 8.42 p.m. Hi, I'm sorry, I didn't call this morning, had a late night and then ended up in this paddle tournament for like five hours. Done. I can't. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I'm saying. So no. He's been the one that's fucking badgering me about hanging out. And then I give you, but by the way, I understand it's last minute, but just the fact that you're not even going to say anything to me all day. Makes me think you're with another girl.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Which again, it's fine. You're allowed to do that. But like, I just, there's like certain things. I'm like, I don't like you enough to do this.
Starting point is 00:23:01 But by the way, if I liked you enough, I shouldn't be doing it anyways. Like, it's like a weird thing. Oh my gosh. It's so interesting the way that you're, I would be so bad at being single.
Starting point is 00:23:09 What would you do in that situation? I would be like, oh, he broke his leg or like, I like never would. I would think that I was the center of everyone's, no. And I think,
Starting point is 00:23:19 like, no, he loves me. back to me. But I want to stand for it. I think he does really like me, but I think he's a dude and like I've got, I haven't all I've done is kiss him and we've been talking since February. Like, I think
Starting point is 00:23:30 he's a guy. He's going to go have sex. He's going to, if there's a girl in front of him, he's going to have sex with her. Which is fine. I literally, you're, I've hung out with him twice. Like you're like, at the paddle game he had sex with somebody? I think he was with a girl that night and then I just think that you couldn't text me in between.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Like, I don't know. Well, that's what I don't get. How easy it to be like, hey, I'm still thinking about it. be at a paddle game. We'll message you later. Or like, I just can't swing it. Just a little communication. And I'm sorry, but like, there's certain people when you're dating. There's people that you like make a priority. Like, you should be a priority. Well, and that's what's so weird is like he has made me feel like I have been. Like, I want to hang out with you. Let me know when I can hang out with you. I can fly to Nashville. I'm like, I need someone in Nashville because my life is so last minute. He's like, well, lucky for you. I'm crazy enough to get on a plane last minute. Like, these are the
Starting point is 00:24:15 things he's saying to me. So then when I do give him an opportunity, he goes silent. He goes silent. for 24 hours. Dude, do you think he's being like, I'm going to give her a taste of her own medicine? Could be. I mean, could be. But also, bye. This is why. Never, bitch.
Starting point is 00:24:30 This is why when a guy sends you a photo that's 12 years old, you ghost and you actually fucking stick to it, okay? Otherwise, here we are. Okay. So, goodbye, Pierre. Suck my dick. Okay. Next guy.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Again, I think maybe this was coming home from New York. Oh, no, it was. Oh, my God. It was. From that dress. This is coming from that. See, every time I leave Nashville, shit starts happening. Okay, so that, literally the next day, I'm on a flight coming home to Nashville.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Hungover? Yes, yes, yes. Coming home to Nashville. And I get a napkin. Do you like that I have props? Yeah. I get a napkin from my flight attendant. This is the cute.
Starting point is 00:25:12 I actually like this. Okay, keep going with the whole story. No, it's cute. No, okay, so I get this. Read the note. Okay, so she's sitting on the plane and she gets. this note passed to you or dropped off on your table? From my really sweet flight attendant, I think he was a sweet little gay guy.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And he said, excuse me, ma'am, a guy wanted me to give you this. Okay. So the note says on a... Wait, talking to your microphone. Oh, on the note, on the napkin, it says, I'm probably buried in your DMs like I am at the back of this plane. If you have a minute after the flight, I'd like to introduce myself in real life, gives his IG.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Worst case, you can just tell me about ADT, which... Okay, so now you told me this. happen. My immediate reaction was like, I'm texting you a photo of it. Yeah. And I'm like, this is the cutest thing ever because I love in person stuff like this. I love people who take the extra step. Confidence. Yeah. I also think like an airplane story is so cute. It's like very 90s. Yeah. Yeah, you know, like right. Yeah. I literally in my head, I'm like, this is it. And I like, all of this wording. Like it's not nerdy to me. It's like the perfect like pace of like, it's just cute to the point like whatever. So I immediately say you were like, is this weird? And I was like,
Starting point is 00:26:17 Chris, that's the most adorable thing ever. Like don't make that. weird. Like, that's really cute. And I was like, wait for him. I don't think I said, is this weird? Because I actually loved it. I think. Oh, no. What happens? I did my stalking. Justin is a fucking detective. You guys, I'm a detective. I'm like a ninja on the internet. So, like, I went in and just found out all his information or whatever. So I told Kristen the information that I found. And she was like, well, what do you think? Well, was no, I'll tell you what it was. So I looked up his Instagram and he's cute, but I didn't think he was hot because I'm the most. Oh my God, I can't think today. Superficial. I'm the most superficial woman on the planet
Starting point is 00:26:54 He wasn't hot enough for me. Yeah, you've also found some guys who aren't traditionally hot to be attractive though. Well, that's why I was like I should meet him like face to face. That's kind of what we talked about. Right. And I said a guy who talks like that is going to have energy that like you're into because you like that like man, go for it, make things happen. Whatever. Yes. So that was my only hesitation. Yeah. But I, I love meeting people. I swear to God, like, it's such a difference with men meeting them in real life than just seeing photos. We always say this, though, is like an especially straight man. They're so much hotter in person. Especially a guy who like doesn't overthink Instagram. He's not like posing right, wearing the perfect outfit. You'll see a guy, a straight guy and you'll be like, oh, he's like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:39 But then you see him in person. Sometimes you see their build, the way they carry themselves and like the way they talk. And they're hot. Yes, yes. So I was like, Kristen, he could be really, really hot. And you had checked a bag. Yeah, I checked a bag. I was like, did you check a bag? Yeah, I'm like, then just wait for him or like, whatever. I said, yeah. Wait for him as you're just standing there. Well, in my head, I'm like, I'm not like waiting for him off a plane. I was like, that's weird. So yeah, I said to my sweet little flight attendant, I said, will you tell him that I'll meet him in baggage claim? This flight attendant was like, I'm not your fucking message. He's like, I'm not Justin. Yeah, he's like, what the fuck? But he did. Okay, so I'm in, by the way,
Starting point is 00:28:18 I was so nervous. Like, I don't get nervous for a lot, but I was so nervous for this for some reason. Really? You were hungover. Yeah, I was probably because I was hungover. So I'm in baggage claim waiting for like five minutes. Shut up, honestly. And then he shows up and he gave me a hug and he was great. What gave you a hug?
Starting point is 00:28:36 Yeah, gave me a hug. That's so cute. Hotter in person. You're hungover. You're a hungover. You know, when you're vulnerable, when you're hungover, when you're hungover. I'm so vulnerable. That's why I was nervous.
Starting point is 00:28:47 I was nervous. I was nervous. I was so. So vulnerable. Oh my God. So it was great. We talked for a few minutes. He told me where he lives here. He's got a couple of daughters. Yeah, close by. I mean, I stalked his Instagram. I saw he had two daughters anyways. And then we were talking about going to dinner in the next few days, like our schedule with our kids, like blah, blah, blah. And it was great. So he gets my number of- cuter in person. Cuter in person. And he's tall and like good energy. There's like a vibe.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Yeah, he seemed a little nervous. But like I was, I'm probably just projecting. Yeah. Who knows what he thought about you? I was. So she smells like vodka. No, literally I was like, I told him I had to just own it because I looked haggard. Please. You know, when you're hungover and you just have like alcohol seeping out of your pores, you're like greasy. But sometimes I like better when I'm hungover. True. Because it like dehydrates you.
Starting point is 00:29:32 I look like skinny. Skinty. Skinny. Skinny. I'm like, oh, so fragile. So we leave. He texts me like within 45 minutes, I would say. This gets wild, you guys.
Starting point is 00:29:45 And like that's great. I'm like, cool. Love it. I love that he texted me. Okay, then I'm just doing my little scroll on TikTok of all places. This isn't even Instagram. And I get this. Okay, so I said to him, it was a DM.
Starting point is 00:29:59 It was actually a fucking comment, like a comment on a photo, like an public comment. And it says, are we dating the same man? A finance guy living in has two kids. I'm just making sure I'm delusional. So you had done your research and we figured out he is a finance guy. So her comment matches up to who he is. And I'm sorry, but I haven't been on a date in Tennessee in years, years. And you can't tell me that that's a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:30:27 That, by the way, took two hours, two hours from by the time I met him to when that happened. So. And of course, it's not a coincidence. So I'm like, this is fucking weird. So we're like running through all the scenarios. It's like, okay. Did he like tell everybody he knows? Like I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:50 It's just fucking weird. How does news like that travel that fast? Well, I told you my thing about it is like and I've said this with other guys too. Like because you're so open and you like just say whatever like you're just an open book. Right. And I've always said to you. I'm like, Kristen, when you're texting people, you need to pull back a little bit because like you don't think about yourself as being like famous or anything. But like people would love to show somebody their text messages with you.
Starting point is 00:31:14 You know what I mean? And like I, yeah, I even like when I was doing hair, like, and I would talk about a certain client or like people like, oh, let me see their text message. I'm like, no. Like people are really into that stuff. If you're texting someone who's quote unquote famous, you know, like anyone who's famous in my phone has fake names or like whatever. But most people like, that's a cool thing. And for like a guy in that age, he could immediately be like, oh my God, you have no idea who I was just talking to or whatever. And he did tell me when we were talking for five minutes at the airport that one of his best girlfriends is obsessive.
Starting point is 00:31:44 with me and listens to my podcast. See. So he, and that's not even no, that's not even bad on him. No, I actually love that he owned that. No, but if he immediately was like, you're, you have no idea who I just like talked to, you're not going to believe this. What of me, you told her. But then how quick that stuff travels. I know. That's what people don't understand is like, you tell two people who tell two people, and, and by the way, like, I don't even know if he is dating this person or whatever. I don't even care about that. It was just how quickly it got back to me. So in my head, I was like, I can't go to dinner with him next week now and be open and be myself and tell him anything.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Like, I can't talk about my ex-husband or, like, my kids or like normal things that you talk about on a date with someone because now I don't trust who he's going to tell. That's such a bummer, but it's such a real thing. Like, you and I were really talking about it that day. And I was like, that's the thing. Anything that you say on the date now, you know is immediately going to be told to people. And when you're here, like, especially here in town, like, you're private about your kids and your businesses, whatever, that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I don't want anyone in Tennessee knowing anything about me. Me either, though. I get it. I get it. I've got like my couple of friends and that's it. I don't want anyone to know what I'm doing, who I'm with. I like to be very private here. Well, so then he, whenever he texted me to like make an official plan for dinner, I just said to him.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I was like, listen, you know, this is a DM that I got and I just don't really play these games. Like, it can't be a coincidence. I haven't been on a date in years in Tennessee. And I was like, let's just chalk it up to a really great story. Like, I wish you know. by the best, blah, well, whatever. And he was like, well, I broke up with my girlfriend in January. So it must be a coincidence. He's like, but I can't imagine all the shit you have to deal with in your life with dating. He's like, I only told two people my CEO who was with me on the plane and
Starting point is 00:33:25 my friend who I said loves you. I'm like, okay, well, I don't want to tell you. To me, it's like one of those things where I feel like it's the universe being like, don't waste your time. Don't even go down this road. Like that was immediate. Immediately. Immediately. Yeah. And whenever things like happen like that quick. It's like, I don't know, it just kind of sets the pace for everything else. That's just weird. That's a fucking red flag. That's a huge sign. I also don't, now I don't believe. I think he was dating somebody. Like, who would do that? Who would do that? Yeah. It wouldn't just be like a friend of your, like, I don't know. It's weird. And by the fact that she went, you're allowed to date. Like, that's all fine. But also dating. I just fucking met this guy. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:34:03 Yeah. And, but the fact that she went back far down on your profile, right, to make that comment. Yeah. Like, I can't remember. I just remember, it was weird, though, because, like, when you open up TikTok and you go to activity, because I don't, like, sit here and, like, read through my comments. But, like, I, again, and that's the other thing, too, is the fact that I saw it is also a sign. I don't see a lot of comments, but I saw that one. And it happened to be, like, one of the main ones at the top of my, on a random photo, a random photo. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:30 So, I don't know. So that was that. He never reached back out. Not after. No, it was like we, no, because then I didn't respond to whatever he responded to. whatever he said. What a bummer though, too. I mean, for him even, like, if he was excited and if he was a really nice guy and everything,
Starting point is 00:34:45 I'm sure he's like, what the fuck? Like, just happened. But I'm sure someone he talked to said something and like, whatever. And then even if it was somebody just messing with you, like maybe a friend of a friend of his and they're like, oh, let's do this. It'll be funny or whatever. It's like, well, you just curled the shot of them like hanging out or whatever. Because also that's weird too.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I don't want you to have friends that are weird like that. I don't know, like the whole thing is weird. Uh-huh. But just people in general, like immediately telling people like, oh, I get it though. Like if I met somebody, I was single and I met somebody hot on a plane. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:35:12 oh, I met the hottest guy on a plane or whatever. But it's different when it's a celebrity thing. Because they're like, oh, I met Kristen Cavalieri. And then it turns into like a thing. You were talking about it recently with like one guy that you were kind of talking to.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Can I tell a little bit? And then we won't say his name or anything. But he is texting you like you guys are having a relationship. So you'll send me the message and be like Justin, look, he's still texting. And it's like very. Oh.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Kristen. And I and Kristen's like, he's crazy. Like he like, and I'm like, no, Kristen, he's showing people your messages. He's showing people because they're like, no way are you talking to her. And I bet you. He's showing me like, I miss you, baby, like been thinking about you. And I'm like, I haven't talked to this.
Starting point is 00:35:49 In months. Also, you're not responding like at all. Like he could be he could be erasing before messages or something. Oh my God. No, because it's weird. To me, that's where my mind goes. Because I'm like either you're bat shit crazy and you're having a relationship that's not happening in your phone with somebody or you're doing this on purpose to show. people like, no, look, I'm texting her.
Starting point is 00:36:10 You guys, I literally hung out with this guy one time in the fall, one time in the fall. And we talked for a couple weeks. And then I ended everything. He would FaceTime me, call me, text me over and over and over. And I never would fucking respond. I made the stupid mistake of responding with you the other night. Why did we do it? For the plot.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I'm fucking no. Because we're bored. It's us, by the way. All this stuff is us. We're the problem. Oh, God. And, but it was, I miss you. I've got so much to tell you.
Starting point is 00:36:42 You said that? No, no, no. He said to me and I'm like, what? I've got so much to catch up with you on. I'm like, I don't even know you. Like, it's weird. I had to tell him again like, hey, oh, you know what it was? Because he moved and he wanted some recommendations.
Starting point is 00:36:55 So I was like, all be nice and like, give him some recommendations. And then I was like, this is not turning into anything, though. And I've had to ghost him again. But it's like, to your point, either you have a fucking screw loose or you're just showing people text messages. just be like, look how close we are. Yeah. And it's like, I don't know you. And you're acting like we're best friends that haven't talked in a couple months.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Weird. Yeah. Oh my gosh. So anyways, that's why I'm single. But a guy like that's not going to do that to any other girl. He's doing it to you because you're who you are. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Right. Yeah. Or they're crazy. Or they're fucking crazy. I do have one more story. So I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you'll remember once I start telling it.
Starting point is 00:37:34 So this is a few years old. But I felt like this is one I've never told before. And it's a good one. It's a good one. Okay. So I don't know, maybe four years ago. I went on two dates with a very famous man. And that's all I'm going to say because I really don't want anyone to be pinpoint
Starting point is 00:37:52 to who this might be. Two dates in L.A. Two really great days. Honestly, like two of the best dates of my life. This name has never been said publicly. So nobody can try to guess if you've heard of a name of somebody she dated before. Yeah, you can't guess it. No one has ever said this name.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Unless this is a common story that's out. for other women. Okay. But at that point, like, fine. So our second date, we went to the Beverly Hills Hotel and he got a suite and we like swam all day and then we took showers separately. And then we ate dinner on the patio and it was great. Okay. So in between like pool and dinner, right? You changed the hotel. Was that for the podcast? I know the first day was the sunset tower. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. We loved a hotel. So he's like at one point. I think we're like in cowls like, I just taking showers. He's like, you know how when you like first start dating someone you have those insecurities about your body and like you just want to like get them over with?
Starting point is 00:38:45 And I'm like, I mean, yeah, like, sure, there's like little things, you know? And he's like, I just, he's like, can I just tell you mine? And I'm like, yeah, what? He's like, I have a mole on my dick. And I was, do you know who I'm talking about? Yeah. Okay. And I was like, oh, okay. I was like, how bad is it? He's like, I mean, it's not like that bad. He's like, but it's noticeable. And he's like, Can I just show it to you? And I'm like, yeah. Show me it. So he pulls out his dick and he shows.
Starting point is 00:39:13 This is the first time you see it? First time I've seen it. Oh my God. You're inspecting it like a fucking dermatologist. This is so not sexy. I put my glasses on. Ew. And Justin,
Starting point is 00:39:25 I'm literally sitting there going, I don't see anything. I'm like, there's, I think he said it was like more of like a flush colored like a white like mole. Like I'm not even kidding. I'm forgetting this story right now. Now I'm grossed up.
Starting point is 00:39:36 please don't tell me this is like a prank where he's like, you get close and he whips you in the face with it. This is so weird. Inspect my mole. Oh my God. I'm dying. So I literally am like, I don't see anything. I don't see anything.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Like, but I will say that, this is mean, but I will say this. I think he's kind of known for having a big dick. And it wasn't that big. It's not. And I think that's really what the insecurity was about. But anyways, okay, so I am like, I don't see anything. I am so proud to be able to sit. Karen tell you today, I didn't suck it. I didn't touch it. I didn't do anything with that dick that was in
Starting point is 00:40:11 my face. And then later I was thinking about it and I was like, oh my God. That's what he tells every fucking girl to get his dick out. Because it's, oh my God. Ew. That's so gross and weird. Because once your dick's out, like it's pretty common to be like, oh, well. So you treated it like was one of your boys. Like you look, okay. Yeah, it looks. It looks okay. Might want to check in with a doctor. And then you like go your separate way. I'm like, all right, thank you. You can put your pants back on now. Yeah, I mean, I think we like made out and stuff, but I was like, I was like, I'm not having
Starting point is 00:40:43 sex with you. I'm, you know, like, I'm pretty, I'm really fucking good about sleeping with someone initially. Like, good at doing it or like? Both. I'm really good. But I like to wait a few times. I've had two one night stands. I've told you guys on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:59 But other than that, like, I'm really good. I'm not going to sleep with a guy right away because I have to have a real emotional connection. And when I tell you how fucking happy I am that I did. not hook up with him. By the way, it was the last time I ever saw him. Was when he pulled out his fucking moly dick. I have this whole thing about that is I think he, I, his energy is just weird to me.
Starting point is 00:41:20 So I think that he immediately knew like he wasn't going to be able to pull his normal tricks on you. I agree. And he had this whole thing where he's like, I've had a crush on you forever. Like I loved your energy or whatever. And when people say that, it goes two ways for me. Either they genuinely love the gris de givoli, like strong energy or it's like a weak. for them and they're going to see like how much they can try to cut it down or something. And to me like when we really started paying attention to a lot of the texts and stuff,
Starting point is 00:41:42 because then we start like looking at stuff, I'm like, oh, he's insecure. And he like weirdly wanted to like break you down in my opinion. Control me. Control me. Yeah. He's a narcissist. But do you remember that that the way that ended was really weird? It was really weird and creepy and like answered everything. Like, oh, you have serious issues.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Major issues. Full blown bucket narcissist. Couldn't have dodged a bigger bullet. And I'm happy. I didn't suck that mole dick. That's my, like, thank God, you know. This is why we have to get to know people before we sleep with them. What's so weird about that too?
Starting point is 00:42:16 Also, I would understand if it was like this big, beautiful cock and you had like a mole on and he like, wanted you see it. But if you just see like an average size dick with a mole on it, you're like, put it away. Yeah, like that's not hot. Cute. Put it away. It's fucking weird. No, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:42:30 That's what he does. You know that's what he does. But also, yeah, being famous that he immediately would think a girl would just like get down like let me look at it. Like once you're both naked, it's like, or I had a towel on, but like once you're naked, like pretty, it's pretty common that like normally. Were you grossed out right there? Like, no. Oh, God, I'm really going to go for it. No, no, no, no, don't say this part. I know what you're going to say. It's like flat ass. Yeah. Can I be honest with you? Changing out of his swimsuit, he had the flattest ass and like horrible
Starting point is 00:43:03 back knee scars. Okay, that's getting mean. Okay, sorry. He can't control that. I mean, he could do squats, but like, there is a thing. You're an ass guy. I'm an ass guy. I love an ass. But like, if you just seem flat, or your butt, you got to say, I sound like a smoker. You were like, you're like, sir, don't worry about the mole.
Starting point is 00:43:19 You have to worry about your ass. We got bigger fish to fry, buddy. Like, a flat ass on a guy is one of the biggest fucking turn off. You know what's so funny that I think that that comes from is you love the whole, like, masculine. A guy can take charge if he needs to, the guys like the hunter and gather type stuff. You know, you have the rolls or whatever. And an ass is power
Starting point is 00:43:38 An ass is strong You want a guy that can pick you up And carry you down a driveway If it's snowy You know And fucking fight if he needs to protect me Yeah If the world ends
Starting point is 00:43:48 He can So an ass is all about like power That's where men's power is Or like their biceps you know So if they're like flat and yeah it's not I need you to have some strength On your bottom half Yeah
Starting point is 00:43:58 Also guys who only lift weights With their arms And forget about their legs I'm like ew Yeah It's like the biggest egg for me I love a big juicy butt on a guy. And thick skies.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Maybe that's why in the past athletes have been such a big one for me. Yeah, that's so your body type. I love that body type. Makes you feel a little. Yeah. Also, you're strong. We can imagine you're, oh,
Starting point is 00:44:21 we went to this, well, recently we were talking to this other guy that we were like, is he cute or whatever? And then we actually randomly saw him in person or whatever. Which one? I don't want to say his name. I'll blur for it.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, Kristen, we were like seeing this guy who we thought was like cute online or whatever. And then we randomly saw him in person or whatever. And he was. He's tiny, little.
Starting point is 00:44:38 He looked like he skipped a few meals. Yeah, but you know what? So sweet. And just like that good energy, he'd probably be a good boyfriend. He would be the best boyfriend. But you'd have to pick him up and carry him around. I can't do that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I'm not going to do that. You'd have to protect him. I have to put him on my bag. Come on, bitch, get on. I love how we all live like the world is ending or we're going to be in these really intense situations where someone's going to have to carry us out. But it feels like the world is going in that direction right now. I just want to know just in case.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Scoot with this broken leg right now. I lay in bed and I'm like, if something bad happened right now, I'd have to pick up two dogs and a fully grown man and carry him out of the house. Yeah. You're like stuff like that. Good fucking luck. Yeah. No, it would be a lot.
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Starting point is 00:49:59 What are your other Ix with guys? My other icks with guys for you. Straight guys are just, to me in general. They've got so many. And I hate to be that person because here's the thing, too, even though I'm a gay man, I'm a man at the end of the day. I'm still a man, you know, but I think that there's this new wave of like straight men because of social media that I'm noticing now we're like guys. And I don't believe in, you can be a girly guy. You can be, I love a metro guy. You can do put concealer under your eyes if you want. I'm not going to judge you for that kind of stuff. But I'm talking about like guys on social media like acting sexy. Like they're kind of acting like women now.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Right? And so it's like it changes it for somebody who wants like a really manly man. I think that could be considered a shitty conversation where it's like, oh, you shouldn't. But I just, I think that that's a reality. Like let's put it this way. My future man is not on social media. No. Like maybe he has one and like maybe he'll scroll once in a while. But like he's not in the comments.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I can tell you that. We were talking about this recently. Like I was posting these funny videos about these guys who were acting really weird on social media and then I was doing like a reaction video. And the majority of us, we all get it. Right. And I think any normal straight man can laugh at that too. Like, yeah, the guy looks like a douchebag, right?
Starting point is 00:51:09 But then the guys who come into the comments being like, oh, who do you think you are to judge him or whatever? Like, you're not any better. I'm like, first of all, I'm a gay man. You're gay. I'm gay. And I sing like an idiot on social media. Like, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:51:20 But like, it's just different for straight man. But if you're coming into the comments defending it, that's even weirder. Yeah, you're that you're the worst. Yeah. And I think there are a lot of fabulous straight men out there. I love a lot of like, there's a lot of great. there's a lot of great ones. Same. Yeah, but it's like this thing where like some of this stuff that's
Starting point is 00:51:37 becoming normal now because of social media for men, it's weird. Think about like all the good guys that you know in your life, like your straight male friends. None of my own social media. That's what I'm saying. Or like maybe there are, but they're not like commenting and like, they're not part of the conversation. That's the biggest difference. Like I love. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Both of my brothers. I love. I think my brothers are both like really good examples of like just good straight men. And they just, they kind of use social media. scroll or they'll look for a topic or whatever, but they're not commenting and liking girls things and stuff. Or like my sister's husband. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:52:10 He uses social media to look up surfing and fishing and stuff. Yeah. But yeah, these people who are getting in fights in the comment section. I'm sorry. A man commenting and like in a fight is disgusting. Yeah. Remember the one guy that I got in a fight with because he tried to call you like a slut in the comments.
Starting point is 00:52:25 And then he had an open profile with his family. And remember I called him out because I'm like, what is wrong with you? First of all, you have, I think he had daughters. And you're calling. Calling a grown woman that you don't know in the comments a slut. Like you're a weirdo. Get off the internet. That is so weird.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Like if I saw my brother is doing that, are you guys okay? Calling a girl a slut that you don't know. Yeah. Also, I know those guys to me when they want to attack a woman for being a slut or whatever, that's the weakest form of a man. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Also, like, are you mad because you can't get a girl or something? Men celebrate being sluts, though. Like, they think that's hot, like how many girls they hook up with or whatever. I think it's such a threat to guys when they think that a girl is confident enough to just like hook up a lot that they want to like a lot of guys unfortunately want to put women back in their place or whatever and that's the stuff that really irks me because it's like I don't know in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:53:17 No, I agree. Okay. And it for me is when a guy shaves his jaw. Oh my God. Shaving a beard or trimming a beard is very, very important. I think that like gay men should. Well, some gay guys have bad ones too. I think somebody should do like tutorial for them because when men have like a hard line, a hard line or like their mustache, they'll like go under the nose.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Like any sort of shaping. Like I always keep a beard and mine's really messed right now. I keep straight for what I work out. Yeah, but you keep it a little bit messy. And then when I clean it up, I use like three different guards to slowly trim up in here. You kind of shape the whole thing. You know, like so it fades into it. You never want a hard line.
Starting point is 00:53:58 The hard line kills me. The hard line kills me. Because also I'm like, it just tells me how insecure you are. Because you're like trying to like get definition in your jawline. Wait, you know what's something that I always think about. And like I said this recently on social media, but I think that somebody should like online teach something for straight men. Like how.
Starting point is 00:54:14 You should do that. I don't want to do it. That would be a really boring job for me. Also, I'm not looking for work right now. Thank you very much. But I think that somebody should do it in the grooming department. Because you know what I always think about like guys like do they know how to properly wash their ass and like trim like.
Starting point is 00:54:28 I don't think so. When you've hooked up with guys like do they know how to trim that area down there? Not usually. Usually it's also like hard lines or like shaved and now it's growing in. Oh my God. That's what I always think. Shaved is disgusting. You if you feel prickly.
Starting point is 00:54:44 It's disgusting. A guy who shaves their arms or their legs. That's a deal breaker for me. Yeah. But a lot of guys do that if they're like buff because they want to show off lines. I'm like the hairiest person on earth and I don't. Men are supposed to be hairy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:56 And also like it should be soft. If you're going to trim it, trim it, right? Like use a guard. There's all different numbers for the guards by the way. Like it goes one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. You can do it a little bit shorter. Also, short is cute because it's like a little fuzzy and it still feels soft or whatever. I think a man should just be hairy.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Oh, girl, don't say that. You don't want them to have it all the way out. Like a big bush. I thought we were still talking about first. And then the other thing, the reason that I'm asking about this is because a big bush, you know what that does? Collect smell. Ew, I know.
Starting point is 00:55:23 And a lot of straight guys, I don't think know how to clean properly down there in those areas. Like, they're not. Sometimes straight guys like, mm. No, they're like kind of gross. Yeah, they have like skid marks in their underwear. and stuff, you know, like... Well, luckily I'm not eating anyone's asshole. Oh, I'm like, do girls do that?
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah. They do. Yeah. They like it. Or the men ask for it. I think men ask for it. And also some girls will put their fingers in guys' buttholes. I won't.
Starting point is 00:55:47 You do not ask me to do that because I will not. Oh my God. I won't do it. I knew that this was like kind of... I always think that people are joking around. They talk about it. I don't think that's that bad, actually, because there's a lot of senses or sensory stuff going on in your butthole.
Starting point is 00:56:01 So, like, if you do tap a certain spot when they're about to come or whatever. It's a thing. I don't like anything near my butt at all. It's just not my thing. I'm not, yeah. But I'm not judging. I'm a gay man.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Obviously, I'm not judging butt stuff. But maybe a straight guy if he wants, you know what I think, though? If a straight guy wants things done to his butt, he's done a lot sexually that he's bored. Like he's going to the next level.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Like what I think you have to do next. Choke him. Exactly. You know, like it. Yep, you got to keep up in the ante. Yeah, that's what I think. Don't comment me with your butt stuff. Get the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Yeah. Oh. Also, no. I'm just sorry. No. Imagine me putting my finger in a guy's butt. You'd be a dream for though because you're kind of dominant. They'd be like, well, bend over.
Starting point is 00:56:45 But aren't there like guys who do like a woman to put on a strap on or something? Yeah, I've heard this with other famous fucking people. My friend Jasmine back in the day fucked a huge celebrity and used to put a strap on. But you know what that is? It's like submissive. Like, people who have to be in power all the time. Sometimes they want to be submissive. They want to just like...
Starting point is 00:57:03 Also, I don't like that with a man. Don't be submissive. No, but I also think that's like... Well, no kink shaming. I think kinks are hot. Like, whatever. We love it. I just want to understand it and I don't quite understand it.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Because I'm actually like a control freak and I feel like I'm always making all the decisions in my life, even with my friends and stuff and growing up, even when I was doing my career and stuff. But there's not one part of me that wants to like bend over and let someone spank me or something, you know, like... Yeah. I mean, I, yeah. Would you want to be spank?
Starting point is 00:57:30 I wouldn't mind it. So it's interesting because in my life I like it a little rough. I'm also the alpha but in relationship and sexually I do not want to be the alpha. I want to be submissive. You say this but you're kind of a liar.
Starting point is 00:57:46 You're not being truthful because we don't know because I haven't been in a relationship in forever. No, but there's also this one guy that I remember a while, while back that wouldn't let you ride on top and it pissed you all. Because that's how I'm a dominant top. No, you want to be in control.
Starting point is 00:58:04 You're going to be like, take that. You take that. Can we talk about this? Because that was fucking weird. I dated a guy right out of my marriage who did not want me getting on top when that is how I typically orgasm. But you know what? I know exactly what it is. Because I also love this guy.
Starting point is 00:58:23 I love him a lot. And we're actually the same sign. And I actually see some of myself in him. I think he's a good guy. He really does want to be like the dominant. one he wants to like take control over. But that's not going to work for you. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:58:35 What if we have to change up the whole thing about who you're supposed to be? You should be with like a softy. Yeah, gentle. Lover. Loves. No, because to me, me getting on top is not me being dominant. I'm just like I can speed things up here, buddy, because you're not doing it other
Starting point is 00:58:50 ways so I can get on top and come in two seconds. You really? That's what it is? Yes. That's yes. I've always been like that since I was fucking 15. But then also like orgasming coming. you have to be in a place where you're comfortable enough to, like, go there.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Are you not comfortable when somebody's on top? No, and so- Genuine question. I'm not saying it's like, I know. I'm not diagnosing you. No, I can come other ways. However, typically I come on top. I think because you're a power top.
Starting point is 00:59:21 No, it's real. I think you like that power. And that's hot, by the way. Like, you can own, I don't know. Again, I'm not going to do with power. It has to just with, with the mechanics. It's the angle. Oh, it's really.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Okay. Like truly, it's not because I'm like, I want to dominate and be in power right now. It's more just like, okay, I'm going to come now. Anytime I try to guess why she does anything, I'll get the brutal end of this like later. She's going to hit me after this. But I'm genuinely curious. Like, I always want to know the things or whatever. But that one was interesting because I think with the two of you, he has that person.
Starting point is 00:59:53 We know that from other people. Like he likes to be that person. And I think sometimes guys have a little bit of a hard time with you because you say exactly what you want. You say no a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You call the shots a lot. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 01:00:07 I have a lot of boundaries. To me, that's not being the dominant one, though. That's just, like, realistic with where my life is. I'm very direct. Those are all very real things about me, even in relationship. But I still, I want you to, like, I want the man to, like, take charge and lead the way. Like, I want to shut my brain off. Except for embed, you want to tell him what position to be in.
Starting point is 01:00:27 No. I want you. Oh, my God. I want you, him to. take charge in the bedroom as well. But if you're not making me come with you on top, I'm going to get on top so that I can come.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Okay. It's really that simple. I think the guy you're talking about didn't like it because in his head, he's like, I couldn't get her to do it any other way. So I don't want her to then. Yeah, that's an insecurity on his part. Oh. Because I'm like, I know what to do. I can just do it
Starting point is 01:00:55 immediately. Do you think you're an insecure person at all? No. I'm like not insecure. care about anything. Yeah, I know. Like, is that weird though? Like, because a lot of these things when we talk about these guys, there are insecurities, right? And a lot of women do insecure things too, like both ways when they're dating. I'm like a sicker that thinks I do everything, right? I will say this. I get, if I feel someone pull away in the slightest, I am like, okay, I'm out. Like,
Starting point is 01:01:23 okay. Oh, yeah. But I don't think that's an insecurity. I think that's more just like a reality or like a, well, we talk about this all the time. People who like keep texting, like, I would never text someone more than once. If I message somebody and they didn't message me back, it would just be, that's a done thing for me, you know? I would let them come back if they wanted to or whatever. But I've been wrong about that in the past. Like, there was this one guy in L.A. that I went on a date with. And when I was going back to L.A., he said he was sick.
Starting point is 01:01:50 And I was like, yeah, right. He's fucking lying. Like, truly in my head, I was like, he's fucking lying. And then I talked to him like a couple of weeks. And that's what I ghosted him. And then a couple weeks later, he was like, I really. was sick. I was like, I honestly didn't think that you were. He's like, no, I honestly was. And I was like, fuck, maybe I need to like chill out a little bit sometimes. Again, like, I don't think it was
Starting point is 01:02:09 the right person. Are you so hot? I'm so hot. I'm here. Thank God you said that. Because I'm like burning up. Sweating. I'm literally sweating. Okay, wait, I've got two more ex. When a man is afraid of spiders. I can't. I can't. Guys are afraid of spiders. It happened to me one time. I was like, who, I wish I could remember who it was. No, like squealed like a little kid. Like, couldn't kill it because he was so scared. This is not that long ago. So now I'm like in my head, like, who could that have been?
Starting point is 01:02:39 Because I haven't really been around guys. No, I don't think Mark was afraid of spiders. Is it a A. Afraid of spiders? Must of a. Spiders. I was like, what? What?
Starting point is 01:02:56 What? You were a grown. man. So you have to like get out the paper towel and do it while he's standing up on the bed. Yeah. It must have been. Oh my God. And I was like like, like the way, even if that was my biggest fear, I would like man up. I'm like, oh, I get a spot. If you're hanging out with someone that you like want a date or whatever and you see a spy, you're like, I can't stand it. Like, oh. You jump back. Like you're such a bitch now. Oh my God. I can't. Okay. So that happened to me. And then, okay, actually, speaking of the guy who didn't want me to get on top, really. bad flip flops. I can't do it. I can't do it. And you and I grew up in flip flop culture.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Like there's a way to do flip flops. Like remember the rainbows? Yes, the leather one. If you're a surfer, you wear them to go from the truck down to the beach or whatever because the beach is hot or whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Then those get thrown in the back of your truck, right? You're not putting on your boot cut jeans with fucking flip flops and going to dinner. That is so fucking creepy. Also, by the way, women, there's a reason that women get pedicures all the time. feet are disgusting, right? So when I see men at an airport with open toes, that's the creepiest thing in the world.
Starting point is 01:04:05 And also, I think it's like, I mean, don't quote me on this. I won't even say the percentage, but a high percentage of men have athletes foot. So that's gross too. Like, just feet are gross to me. On the airplane open toe, I'm like, come on, guys, what are we doing? Also shorts. I know. Aren't you cold too?
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah, but if you sit by something like their leg hairs right there, there's something about like a man's leg hair. You know, like it's a little bit creepy. No, it's gross. But flip flops on a man. To do it to a really nice, but like a bad flip flop. A rainbow would be more acceptable to dinner, quite honestly. But it really goes with like a personality type. Like rainbows were so Southern California and like all the surfers wore them.
Starting point is 01:04:40 We grew up in Hawaii and there was, or we went to Hawaii all the time growing up. My mom grew up there. And there was this one type of flip flop that everyone wore there. And it fit the vibe. Yeah. But like you don't go to dinner wearing a flip flop. Like a what's the brand I'm trying to think of like a really hurly like a. No, you're thinking of reefs.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Reefs. The reef. Flip-flops. Like a black, old reef. Flip-flop, yeah. Yeah, I can't do that. That freaks me out. And that's like, by the way, you guys,
Starting point is 01:05:04 somebody out there might love them and their husband rocks the shit out of them. And that's good. We all have different opinions. I don't want to sound mean, but we all have icks. Yeah. And the thing is, I think icks sometimes will trigger people because you might say something that they have. You know, or that their husband does. And then, you know, if it works for you, works for you.
Starting point is 01:05:19 There's going to be things about all of us that bug other people. By the way, if it was my- What's a key about you and I. Let's say that. Nothing. If it was my dream guy and he was perfect and he showed up in some fucking reefs, I'd probably be like, whatever. But you can also, I mean, this is not good advice because everyone said this since the beginning of time. But like, you can always change guys to be better.
Starting point is 01:05:39 But at this point, you're like, do you want to change somebody? I don't want to. I don't want to. If something that happened with Scoot and I had to go change somebody, no. I don't have the energy for that again. Yeah, I'm going to sign up for exactly what's here. Show me what's going on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:51 I'm tired. I'm old. I can't do a rebranding. Yeah. I'm not rebranding you. And I'm also not going to fix you so that you can go out and be better or like okay on your own. You know, that kind of stuff is weird. I know.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Oh, that would piss me off to put in all of the world. And then just for nothing. Yeah. Okay. Then my last one is grammar and I hate to be this person, but grammar on a man is a big fucking deal to me. If you don't notice the difference between there, there, there and there, T-H-E-R-T-H-E-I-R-E-T-H-E-W-E-W-E-W-E-W. Abashvvvvvv, the difference in... Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Who doesn't know that? Are they bilingual? There are people... Is he bilingual? No. Real American people. Or like then and then... Well, I see it like on social media comments all the time.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Like there's people who are really... I'm like, you're an idiot. But I'm saying I would probably never talk to somebody who didn't know the difference between that. Look out of sweat marks. I have dated dated. I've talked to a couple guys. And when they do that, I'm like, oh my God, I really judge the fuck out of you.
Starting point is 01:06:53 I really, really. judge it. That is a big one for me. Texting is big though because like the way they text I think says a lot. You know, like even for me like everything I do is in lowercase. I also do that on purpose. I turned autocorrect off on my phone because I don't mind if I have mistakes. I'd rather somebody be like it's just kind of human. Yeah, he's human or whatever. And it kind of goes with my personality. Right. Yeah. But I guess autocorrect could fix some people's. But if a guy was right into you and like mine is all lowercase. That's so gay, by the way. That's such like a girl thing, all lowercase level.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Oh, he does? Maybe it's coming back. I think it's like a cool for the kids now. It's like you don't care. And that's how I always liked that. I kind of like it. Yeah, but if a guy was writing to you and like a grown adult and he wrote like you and I love an LOL. But like if a guy was like LOL, I'd like, bitch.
Starting point is 01:07:41 No, you can't do that. Sir, you're not allowed to do that. Our emoji's cute or no? Appropriately. Yeah. Like appropriately used and definitely not right away. Like don't ever put an emoji in your first. first one or two texts to me.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Like once we know each other a little bit more, like one or two here and there. Yeah. No, texting is. It's big. I actually don't want a guy who's a big texter. I would rather you send a voice note or pick up a phone. I love that, even though I don't want to do it with other people. I'm literally,
Starting point is 01:08:09 Scoot is the biggest phone call person in the world. He hates texting. I think it's so hot. Scoot, if someone texts him, he immediately goes outside and calls him. Oh, my God. Me too. Me too. Me too.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Like me, too. Someone then they call. I'm like, oh my God. Me too. But you know what for you and I like I don't like trying to get off the phone with somebody. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like say it really good. You know what some people like, okay, so how is everything? How's it going? No, we don't need to do that. We were getting to the bottom of it. It's like, bye. A lot of people like to chat. Yeah, not a chatter. Oh my God. Here he can't get off the phone. Bless his heart. He could be on a four hour phone with a stranger. He honestly could be. He'll talk to a stranger for four hours on the phone. That's what's a sweet about. By the way, I could gab all day with someone that I have a crush on. You can. Which that is so weird to me. By the way, can I just tell you, I am so ready to like someone. Oh, that's cute. I haven't liked it. Like, to really like someone. I haven't liked anyone since Mark. Like, actually, I liked someone.
Starting point is 01:09:04 That was like over two years ago. He learned a lot of tricks or he thinks you're crazy. Like, if a guy that has a crush on you, like, if Mr. Wright is out there, he could listen to his podcast and be like, that bitch is crazy. Or like, I don't want to deal with that queer on her side. Get on top. Just let me get on top. No, I'm just kidding. No, I think, Jesus, the wheels are falling off. I'm sweating. We're in a sauna. This is like an infrared sauna. Can you hear me that?
Starting point is 01:09:31 No, I don't want to bend over. I have like asked you. Just kidding. Okay, we're leaving. I literally am sweating my dickerson off. Justin, you're the best. Come back soon. I love you. Do we give you enough? I love you guys. We gave them more than enough. I love you. And guys, heads up. I am taking the next two weeks off. And then I will be back. Just as you know, I will see you then. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

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