Life Uncut - A Prophet And The Influencer Who Got A Face Lift at 33

Episode Date: September 1, 2026

Hey Lifers! Happy Wednesday! If anyone’s still sore from the Sydney Marathon, props to you we’re kicking off with why Laura will never be as good as you and a little throw back from veeeery early on in the pod (does anyone remember Britt’s marathon?) Plus we get into a random prophet "prediction" and unpacking the ultimate friendship litmus test that's been going around: Would you let your best friend babysit your kids?  Then the big one. After a Byron Bay influencer with 245k followers went public about her "mini" facelift at 33, we get into the convo we can't stop thinking about. Is it better for women to be completely transparent about the work they've had done, even if that means normalising facelifts at an age that once felt unthinkable? Or does that transparency tip into promotion, quietly telling a younger, audience that this is just what upkeep looks like now? And underneath all of it, the real question, how much of this is actually a choice, and how much is just the exhausting cost of trying to feel okay in your own skin after years of comparison culture, motherhood, and a beauty standard that keeps moving the goalposts younger. Plus of course of Suck and Sweet (which includes a huge career highlight hosting global superstar Alex Warren!!!!) YouTube Timestamps 0:00 — Intro: Marathons, Bob Cuts and a broken into Airbnb 7:20 — The Bondi Beach prophet who says Britt's joining the Marvel Universe 13:24 — The friendship "babysitter test": how do you know who your ride-or-die really is? 17:53 — Facelifts at 33: Unpacking the conversation and the shrinking cosmetic surgery age gap 40:19 — Suck and Sweet: The laptop lost everything + the Barbie Girl toddler moment 45:05 — Highlight of the week: Hosting Alex Warren!!! Listen to our episode with Alex Warren on Apple Spotify or Watch on Youtube Keep your questions coming! Slide into the Life Uncut DMs at @lifeuncutpodcast on Instagram You can watch us on Youtube Join us on tiktok Or join the Facebook Discussion Group Hosted by Britt Hockley & Laura Byrne Produced by Sophie Nathan Video Produced by Vanessa Beckford & Lachy Pugsley As always, tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! XxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. I'm Brittany. And I will never do a marathon. Just so that we can all agree and you've heard it here first. I don't think anyone was confused and thought you would. Well, just in case. Just in case. I don't think that's something that you need to clarify on the podcast. I don't think anyone's waiting for your marathon announcement. Sorry, how dare you think I don't look like a marathon runner? It's got nothing to say with you don't look like it. To be fair, you do. You're tall and lean. I'm not saying you don't look like it. I just no one who that knows you thinks you would do one.

I say this because you guys know. Sydney Marathon on the weekend. Very exciting times. Lots of people posting running photos. Extremely inspirational. I am deeply inspired. I will never, ever, ever in my lifetime run a marathon. I'm never going to hit the point of being that middle-aged that I take up marathon running.

I did the no drinking thing, but the marathon. On a week. Whilst pregnant. Look, I stopped drinking while I was pregnant. God, guys. I tried it. It wasn't for me. No, I mean it.

Everyone is running. run groups galore now. I see it on social media and I'm almost tempted. I see how inspiring it is. And then I think about it realistically and I just can't apply myself to anything. Well, let me just take you down in memory lane here, guys. Some of you may have forgotten. Some of you don't know. Now's the time to bring it up. I did do a half marathon. You fucking didn't. Yes, I did. When? How do you not? Oh, I don't remember anything. This is like me forgetting that you get off in your sleep. I did a half marathon in the bush. It's called off trail half marathon. So it's even harder. I basically did a marathon. I did the equivalent of a

road marathon. Everyone's going to say, no, you didn't. In the bush. In the bush. And I did it because remember, we did all that content around my whole family did it. We were one of those families that were like, let's bond. My like 65 year old dad did it. My sister did it. My brother did it. I did it. It's all coming back to me now. Thank you because I do not want anyone to forget that. No, it's, I remember this. This was like, if you're an OG life or it was like potentially for six months. Do you know what it was? I had to travel. I had to travel. I. I remember it. This is the same moment. I also told this story. It was the first time I went away for a weekend with my ex-Jordan. Like, we'd just gotten together not that long and he was coming

away to watch me run this marathon. He was at the start and he was at the finish. And it was the first weekend away. So I booked our Airbnb accommodation because we had to travel to the bush. And I booked it. And I walked into the Airbnb and there was some other family in there. And I was like, what are you doing in my house? He's like, what the fuck are you doing in my house? Anyway, it was, I wasn't supposed to be there. I booked the wrong weekend and I burst into someone else's Airbnb stay. Yeah. And then we had nowhere to stay at this marathon.

Can we, let's call it a half marathon. Let's call it what it was, Brid. At this ultra marathon, I had no. Can I ask you, Britt, did it make you feel bitter than everybody else? That I walked in on someone else's Airbnb. Doing a half marathon. Yeah, I felt pretty good. Yeah, I think that's why people do it.

It makes you feel bitter than everyone else. Yeah. It did. And do you know what? Did I enjoy it? Not one second. Would you do it again? Never.

Unless someone paid me. Did you make it to the end? Yeah, this is what I was going to say. I've always been very fit in terms of I've always trained. I've always done Pilates. I'm strong. But I have never been a runner and I detest running. I've never understood the runner.

What is it? Run as high when you get in. I just, it's not for me. I'm very heavy on my feet. Like I'm, I'm, everyone always says that I walk really heavy on my feet. I am.

I'm not agile and light. What I will say is I'm so competitive. So I won out of all my family and friends that went in it. I nearly died, but I would rather almost die over the finish line than lose. Once I get started, even though I didn't train running-wise, there is some mentality that takes over in your brain where you're like, just put one foot in the front of the other and keep going. Okay, I don't have that.

So that's really great for you. I don't have the dog in me. I used to run back in the day. And the running high that everyone talks about, the whole like, once you've done it long enough, you just get into this rhythm and then like, you know, you just can keep going and keep going. that never happened to me. And I spent a good year chasing that and then I realized it's okay to just let some things go and I've never been compelled to chase it again. No. I want to know if the run as high is real though or if people are telling themselves because did you guys see

last year's Sydney Marathon the lady that won and her interview? She was saying that the night before the marathon she's in her bedroom hotel room crying going, why did I pick this sport? I hate this. And she's like, I only run at the end so then I can have ice cream. And she's the best marathon run it in the world. She's so iconic. And she's like, I hate it. But I think that's really common that in sports, I think a lot of people end up being very good at something is what they've dedicated their life to, and then they don't actually enjoy it that much anymore. I have a theory. I have a theory that people that enjoy really, really like long running, ultramarathon runs. They're people who opted for running instead of therapy. They could have gone to therapy. They could have

worked through all of the problems, but instead they started running and then they were like, this is fixing whatever pent up box of emotions I have. And you know what? Everyone has their vice. Anyway, congrats to everyone who did the marathon on the weekends. You know what are you? Sorry, I hate to revisit my ultra marathon. You can stop. You can stop revisiting.

You're the only one bringing it up. I've just remembered when I got to the end. So you run, you have heaps of shit. Like you run with like a little pack or a fanny pack because you've got to have your. This is why people run marathons just to talk about it. You run through the bush for 21 kilometers. I will never. So let me just tell you, you have all these, you have this fanny pack or a backpack because you have to

have water, what's it called, camel pack, you have water. A bum bag. You have, no, but some people have, no, Lo, you would never understand. You have, like, a camel pack that has water and in it has all these secret pockets where you put your shit. So the, the hydrolyte stuff and the sugars and whatever, people run with bags of lollies, because you need that to get you through. You're running with gels. You would never understand. So, anyway, we get, I was running and I was like, I tried to get my stuff out because I didn't want to stop. And I was like, oh my God, I didn't pack any of it. I packed nothing. But I was like, I'm sure I did. I was like, I wouldn't not have entered this increasingly hard challenge without my sugars. Anyway, it was all gone.

So I had to go without the sustenance. And we get to the end and my sister, she goes, ha-ha, see the loser who all their shit fell out of their bag. And I was like, what? She picked up. Everything that I had, I just left a zipper open, started running. Everything fell out. Sherry didn't know it was mine. She had picked it all up, ate it on the way. Well, no, one do you want? embarrasses to your family. Sherry was too busy picking up lollies on the trail on. No, Sheridan was actually very good. Anyway, fond memories. If you did do the Sydney Marathon, well done, well fucking done because, you know, it's inspiring, aspiring, I will never

be you, you're a better human than I am and you deserve every single accolade you get. Something equally as amazing happened to me on the weekend on Bondi Promenade. So, you know, I'm very big on the universe and signs and like having moments. This is a very blatant sign and I just need everyone to know about it. Basically, I was on the promenade and this man started to approach me. Sorry. He was quite big, like quite tall. He was very broad.

And I was like, I swear this guy is walking straight to me. And he was. He gets over to me and he's like, excuse me, I saw you from over there. And he has an accent. I was like, oh, he goes, you've got lovely teeth. I said, thank you. Weird. I was like, thank you.

And I was being polite, but I was like, wait, if you were on your own, how did he see your teeth? It's not like you're walking around smart. I was, no, because Ben was in the bathroom. I was sitting down on promenade with Delilah waiting. Flashing your teeth at people. No. But I don't know, maybe he'd seen me talking.

I don't know, whatever. It's irrelevant. God, don't take the moment from you. I'm just trying to set the tone because it was weird to start with. It was a weird opener. And then he said, I'm a prophet. You know I love this shit. I was like, please.

do tell, sit down, talk to me. He's like, I'm a prophet, and I couldn't help. I had the feeling and I had to come and talk to you about it. And I said, please. The feeling was in my penis. I had a tingle in my balls and I had to come and talk to you. He's like, I think you need to come to my house to really unpack this. He didn't say that.

He said, I needed to come and tell you, you're going, you're going to die. You're going to be in the DC Marvel universe. And I was like, sorry, what? He's like, the film franchise, superheroes. And I was like, oh, you don't know how much this tickles me. This is wonderful. And I was like, how do you know? He's like, I'm a prophet.

He's like, this is what I do. Superhero, that's what you're going to be. And then we just stood there in silence. And I was like, I have to go now. Did he give you any indication as to when this is happening? What kind of superhero? No. Well, no.

He said DC Marvel. And that's like the Avengers world, but it's also Superman and stuff. Like, it's a pretty big thing, which I like Broad. I don't want him to. narrow it down. My options are open. I just wanted to re-put out to the universe what he put out to the universe. I want to double down on the profit. I think we should stop. I believe in profits, you know. Turn the podcast off. This is going with the ghost mini series. We'll do a prophet minis. Did you ask him any questions

about, you know, previous prophecies or anything about him or he just went, I'm a prophet and you went, right. We actually talked for a little while. Okay. Yeah. And he said he has, he didn't say like, he didn't tell me the things that he had profited. But he, he did say that he has, I think he was American somewhere, but he said he's done a lot of, he's gotten a lot right. Do I really believe I'm going to be Marvel? No, but am I going to take that and run with it? Yeah. Do you remember the time that someone was deadpan who could tell the future and they said that I was having a boy's. If he tells me he's a prophet, who am I to say you're not? I just want to double down to the universe. Okay, but what defines a prophet? A religious prophet or someone who's

prophesizing Marvel picture movies. Sorry, I don't, I don't think, I don't think it's going to happen. I don't. I'm so sorry to Bereshry bubble, but this is, of all the. the things that could potentially align. I feel like potentially he saw a hot person flashing her teeth on the Bondi promenade. Flashing her teeth. And he wanted to make conversation with you. And that's okay. But maybe it's gone a bit far. What I did gather was there were some large groups of people wearing matching shirts. And I think, sorry. No, listen. It's because it was the marathon on the weekend. No, no, no. They've all just run the race and they're delirious. No, listen. The guy didn't take his gels and he just finished his.

40 kilometers race. I just said was eating them. No, there are large groups of people with matching jackets of religious background. I don't. I think there was a religious conference or something on because it felt like there were a bus of people there were on and he wasn't with them, but there were a lot of them walking around. It was like obviously a religious convention and he's gone astray on his own. Sorry.

So I will. That was my weekend. How's yours? You're not taking this away from me. I will eat my own shit. if you end up in a Marvel movie. And I will be their front row with the profit. The number of times Laura has said your eater and shit. And I haven't yet, but there's been a few times where I probably should have. So any, maybe this is one of them. And look, I'm glad,

love that for you. Thank you. I hope it all works. I was here again. My weekend, nothing eventful happened, except that I had a very spontaneous existential crisis also where I booked myself into the hairdresser. And I, some people go every six weeks. Like Matt, my husband, he books in every six weeks to go the hairdresser. I've never known a person to have more fresh haircuts than what he has. Ben, every two weeks. Every two weeks. This is like for some people, it's just part of their routine. Me, I do a once annual haircut. The last time I got my haircut was before Poppy was born. It's because it falls out. You don't get a, God of fuck off. You keep having babies and your hair keeps

falling out. But this was like, I was like, it's time. Mali wanted to get a bob because Lola got a bob. Lola got a lot of attention for getting her haircut. So then Mali wanted to get her hair cut and get some of that as well. So I sat down next to Mali and I was like, whatever she's getting, I'll get it too. And then I walked out of there and realized, don't get me wrong, I like the haircut, I'm happy. But I just seemed to do things in a very spontaneous way. There was no planning around it. There was no like, this is the haircut I'm going to have.

I just made a rash decision and now I'm stuck with it for a year. Yours isn't too drastic. I'd say it's a lob. Thank you. And I think it really suits you. Amazing. Yeah. And I think you should wear it out more often.

I always wear it slicked back. No, but I slick it back because I have to have no other choice. And this is like, this is only good for about a month. and then we'll be back to the slick back. Anyway, we'd be back to the sick. Anyway, guys, we do have some things to cover. You have a question for me, Britt. Yeah, I do.

I don't want you get upset, but I do want to know the truth. I saw this thing trending online. I didn't save it. It's not worth the content, but it was a thought starter for me. And it was this woman in a reel saying how you know who your trusted circle is, how you know you've got a best friend, how you know you've got somebody that is just your go-to, your right or die. And I was like, oh, this is interesting.

Like, it was a really good hook at the start. Like, how do you know who your best girlfriends are? Cute. This could be a good test for me and Laura. And then she goes, the test is, would you and have you and do you let that person look after your kids? I've never let you look after your children. Not once. Because you don't want to.

No, in seven years, not once. Not one time in seven years. And even at the start, I remember being like, if you ever need a break or you want a babysitter, hit me up. And you're like, totally. And you never did. I'll tell you this, though. I've only ever had one friend take care of the kids once ever, and that was Ness. And I'd even forgotten that she'd done it.

I'm not someone who relies on friends to do that because I think of it as a burden. Oh, I would have charged you. I, like, friends always offer those types of things, but I kind of always think, I don't know, I'm not someone who takes people up on that kind of offer. I feel like that that for me is more a family or a grandma or a nana or I'll book a babysitter who is someone who's like adjacent to the family and like we're friends with. I've never asked friends to take care of my kids because I think it's such an inconvenience that I wouldn't want to burden them with it.

I don't know. I just so you know, I plan on asking you a lot when I have a baby. You won't even know the difference. You've already got three. What's another one? Chuck another one in. Yeah. I did.

I unpack this on the way to work this morning. You also know that I'm well experienced now. Like, I know what to do. Okay. This is the question. I unpack this with Claire from work this morning on the way into work. And she doesn't have kids either and all her friends have kids. And we started to say, do you think it's because you don't have kids?

And I'm only joking, right? Like, I never expected you to lump your kids with me. But the author was always there. I don't know if it was there loud and clear. I don't remember the offer. Might not have been clear. But I always would. If Laura was like, if Laura was desperate, she's like, hey, can I drop the kids over?

I'd be like, yeah. But my question is, and genuinely, not about me, but in general, as a parent, is there a part of you that only ones peerable to babysit your kids if they've got kids? Because you're like, it's a kind of experience that you need to have had. I don't think that that's the litmus of a, of what. makes a good friend or that's like what is the benchmark for like where your friends are at. I don't know. I think you get different things from different friends. If anything, I want to leave my kids with someone else so I can go and spend time with my friends rather than expecting them to take care of my children. And I also think that sometimes that's a bit of a stretch of the

relationship, if anything. There's only so much or so many times that you're going to ask your friends to come and mine your kids for you. And I think everyone's different, but I definitely wouldn't use that for myself as a benchmark as to whether I'm good friends with someone or not. I just thought you were like, fuck, just chick only makes, don't trust you. Don't trust you. Dono Nuggets. They'd be so malnour. The kids would be so malnourish. God knows where that end up.

They'd be alive. They'd be fine. I trust you. You can keep yourself alive and Delilah alive. You can keep a kid alive for four hours. Delilah has some touching go moments. Okay. It's good to know.

Something we made a joke about a couple of weeks ago. We were talking about Catherine Ryan. She's the comedian. And she recently had a facelift at 43 years old. Now, look, if you listen to that episode, we were making a lot of jokes off the back of it. She's been very transparent about it. Like she's been talking about her facelift in interviews. She's had three kids herself and she describes it as wanting to feel like she was clawing back a bit of her own personal identity.

She felt like kids had ruined her and she wanted to look in the mirror and feel as though she looked like herself. 43. That's pretty damn young to have a facelift by anyone's standards. And I think that that's why it's made quite wide news. It's really hard when you see someone who has had it done. They look fantastic and they're talking about it in such like a casual, almost. normalize, a little bit glorified way, okay? De-stigmatizing the whole facelift chat.

Now, look, someone else has entered this conversation. And what we wanted to talk about today is that the benchmark in terms of the age that people are getting facelifts is getting younger and younger and younger. And that is because Ruby Tuesday Matthews, now she is an influencer from Byron Bay. She's got 245,000 followers online. She has just had a facelift. She's currently sharing her recovery from this facelift. And she is only 33 years old.

I felt really differently about this. And I kind of, I guess for myself, I had a bit of a double take because when we were talking about Catherine the other week, we were making a lot of jokes about it. But when I saw Ruby Tuesday's recovery post, her sharing how invasive it all is, I felt very differently about it. And knowing that she's only 33 years old and the fact that she felt so compelled to have something so invasive done to her face, I think it begs a lot of questions around like have we gone too far and is this creep of facelifts becoming normalized in our 30s and younger and younger and younger something that's truly problematic. Now to be clear, this conversation has nothing to do with Ruby. Well, it does, but it's not about her as a problem. She's a,

she's a benchmark for a conversation, but we love her. I followed her for a really long time. She's like an OG influencer. I know you've worked with her on Tony May before laws. So this is not about Ruby. It's about the idea that it's society, you know, it was always like 60 was a facelift, then it was 50, then it was 40, and now all of a sudden we're seeing women in the early 30s. And also, I just really want to lay this down. Ruby's facelift is called an endoscopic facelift. By all accounts, it is like a half mini facelift because a proper facelift is called a deep plain facelift. It's your entire face and your neck. It's deep intramuscular. I'm not saying that to minimize what it is, but I don't want to go around telling people she's had a

facelift when she has had a different kind of procedure. It is called a mini facelift. it is half, but it is nowhere near as invasive and the recovery time as a proper deep plain facelift. Do you know what, though? I mean, I don't know if I'm alone in this, but my Instagram feed is absolutely flooded with plastic surgery, but namely faceless now, the before and afters. And I know that it's like, the content you engage with is the content that you get fed. But I'm not overly engaging with facelift content. I'm simply not. Like, yes, I sometimes stop and I might be like, oh, wow, that's impressive. It is shocking to me how much face content as a 40-year-old woman, I am being constantly fed. I look at all of them. I'm fascinated

by recoveries. I'm fascinated by before and afters. So I get fed a lot of it because I enjoy looking at it. Yeah, I know. But the thing is, is like facelifts used to be the surgery that was hidden in the dark. When you think about 15, 20 years ago, 10 years ago even, facelifts were like the taboo one. People getting the tits done. They're getting the nose done. They're getting all other things. But like, if you're getting a facelift, you are hiding that. You are not talking about it. But now facelifts have become really normalized. but they've become normalized to the point where 33-year-olds are going and getting facelifts. The conversation I wanted to have around this and something that has been rolling around in my mind

is that we often, when it comes to plastic surgery, we land on the destination of, well, it's your body, it's your choice. You know, you can make decisions that are for you, and if you want to get plastic surgery done, it's not hurting anyone, and it's completely your prerogative to do what you want to do to your body. But to that, I think that there is another side to it. And that is, would you be making those decisions if there wasn't the immense pressure and the social standards to live up to? Because I don't think that there is anyone out there who at 33 would be getting a facelift unless it's because they felt so deeply insecure because of all of the social pressures that we feel to maintain our youth and to be looking young. And we all know why people get plastic

surgery and facelifts. And as much as some people say, I'm doing it for me, which I believe you're doing it for you because of the pressures of society and the way that they're making you feel insecure, less than and insignificant. If we didn't have comparison culture and social media, if we didn't have the obscene amount of access and marketing that we do, like we can go on. I never even heard of Botox when I was living in Port Macquarie. And I was living in Port Macquarie up until like, I'm not kidding. I have it there as well now.

Don't worry. It's funny because we're seeing people get facelisk now at 33. I got the first Botox I had ever had in my life at 31. only when I came off the bachelor and was made to feel like I needed to up the ante to fit into what society thought was acceptable for my age and what society said was beautiful. Rinkles weren't beautiful. I was the only person, I think, when we had this discussion in The Bachelor. We all sat around and had these conversations.

Who's had what? Who's had noses? Who's had boob jobs? And I felt like I was from a fucking country bumpkin town. Now, I have lived a life, but my life was very different. I wasn't big on social media, so I didn't have these things thrown in my face. Now, the fact that, like, I was getting Botox for the first time then and we're getting facelifts, it is really scary.

But I don't think anyone is arguing the point that that pressure has come from immense, immense pressure from Instagram, Hollywood, every single magazine you see. And it is 100% without arguing. It is making it seem like it is a normal and it is so accessible and it's really not a big deal. But that's the thing though, right? Like the creep has now happened. I thought 43 with Catherine was like. a bit radical and a bit like, well, that's crazy, 43 is so young.

33 is now radical. But the more people that are getting these facelifts and these procedures done at that age, all that happens is like they're talking about it online, the showing the recovery picks, it normalizes it. In 10 years time, is 33 going to be the new normal for getting a facelift or a pixie lift or however we want to minimize the wording around what we call it? I'm just preventing aging so I don't have to get a full deep plane in 20 years time. The reality is, is like none of these surgeries are forever surgeries.

they might last 10 years, 20 years. So if you're getting it done at 33, does that mean at 43 or 53, you need to have a secondary facelift? That's also the same as breasts, though. Exactly, but we already have so many things to worry, but I feel like there's something really, and I use the word radical,

because I think facelifts feel so radical. And maybe that's because everything else has been normalized thus far. Baselifts was the one thing that was reserved for when you were in your 60s or your 70s. It was a last step, whereas now it's becoming preventative surgery. Can I ask you guys a question? Yes, I've had a face.

No, I haven't. Like, I just think about the fact we all know about this is also because of social media and the fact she's posting about it. And we know all of these surgeries now because everyone's posting about it in their recovery. Do you think there needs to be either more regulation or responsibility on kind of minimizing that amount of content that young girls see? or do you think it's bitter for it to be out in the open? I think there's two arguments for it.

Yeah, of course I think that there should be restrictions on what is shown to a really young, impressionable audience. That's never going to happen. The world we live in, everything is so accessible and everything goes viral so easily. If it's blocked on TikTok, you'll find it on Instagram, or you'll find it on YouTube, or you'll find it wherever. Like, that's impossible, I think. The question I think is really interesting, and I'd love to know your thoughts, is the response,

I'll go back to Ruby as our example. The response to Ruby was very mixed. There was a bit of an onslaught of people saying that you have a responsibility to do better. You shouldn't be promoting this kind of thing. You have young, impressionable women, like this is gross, whatever. Then there was the cohort of people that said, thank you for being so transparent because now we know that it's not that you were just quote unquote born like this, that you had to pay for this, that you worked for this. I won't feel as bad about myself. Thank you for not faking it. And I think that brings up the question. What would you rather? would you rather somebody not post what they've done because they don't want to be a bad influence

to the younger generation? And then you are left with this thought of, why can't I look like that? Or would you rather that they're really open and not necessarily intentionally promoting it, but making it very obvious that this is not normal? I don't think that there is a perfect answer for this because I do prefer that people are transparent and honest about what they've had done. But I do think that with the transparency and honesty becomes a. a promotion and awareness around it. And I felt really differently until recently,

and I think I'm kind of grappling with my own position, I think, on facelifts. I would always say, and this might be news to everyone, but I would always say it as a bit of a joke. I'd be like, okay, well, when I hit 45 or 50, like, I'm going to get a facelift. You know, that's going to be my thing. Yes, that's young. Yes, it's probably some people listen to this and think it's ridiculous. But I always kind of thought that by the time I hit 50, I'll get like a little,

pull it back up in the sides, you know? You were also saying that not that long ago. Yeah. You said, do I want to come with you? You said, do you want two for one? Let's go career. No, but I think I've never had any other surgical procedures done, but that's kind of the one that I was like,

you know what, if I'm going to do something in the future, that's probably it. And it's because I have seen so many successful before and afters. Like I said, my Instagram is flooded with really incredible before and afters. And I'm like, look, if you're going to go hard, go home. That is not what the saying is. But you know what I mean? If you're going to do anything, go hard and go home.

But do both. Go hard and then go home. Recovering from the soon. drink you're taking it home and recover from the basement. I think my tune and my decisions around this, I feel very differently around it after seeing Ruby Tuesday's post. And the reason for that is is because obviously I have three daughters. I feel as though I have a responsibility to them to not just talk about how you're beautiful enough the way you are. You don't need to change anything about yourself. Like these are all the things that I'm trying to instill in my children. I think that

there is some hypocrisy in me saying these things to my daughters and then going and getting a surgical procedure because I can't fathom the idea of aging because I'm trying to fight against it so radically. I guess for me, this has been something that's just literally come up in the last couple of weeks and it's been a conversation that we've been having at home. Like I talked to Matt about it a little bit. And I was like, that really wants a facelift. I'm like, I think we should not. No, I, not that I've ever sat down and said to him, like, I'm going to get a facelift, but I think I really had this realization where I was like, even though there are things about me that I know in time I would have liked to change and I would like to change. And I would like to

change, I, as I am right now, would not do it. And I don't think I ever will do it because I really do believe I need to practice what I preach when it comes to my kids. And I need to really, if I'm going to have one set of standards for them, I need to be able to be the example that it's possible to go, okay, aging is normal process. Everything that you're seeing online is not what is normal. And you don't have to keep on trying to like reach these unfathomable new heights. Because by the time my kids and our kids are in their fucking 30s, face lifts at 30s are going to be normal. They'll still look 12. This shouldn't be normal. And I think that that's what I'm feeling really uncomfortable with now. And I feel as though the age creep is just, it's too much.

33 and the pressures to try and look like you're 25, no one should have those pressures. And I think as well, if you've had three children, I would hope that you're able to get to a place in your own self, that you can accept that some level of aging is going to happen when you have children. And I was reading through like what Kath Ryan had said and she said, I needed to reclaim my identity, talking about wanting to recognize yourself in the mirror again. I think wanting to try and hold on to the version of yourself that's pre-having babies is once again just another absolutely unrealistic expectation and standard that's been set for us. And who are we holding onto it for? For ourselves, because of how other people view us, I'm not sure who these surgeries

are for anymore. I think a lot of it is for us. Yes, it puts a pressure on, but I think a lot of it, so when someone like Kath says, I'm doing this for myself to reclaim, Ruby said something as well. I've been following a long Ruby story. I do think a lot of it is for them because you, your life feels better when you feel better. And a lot of people say, and I don't have kids, so I don't know, but I have read something that every kid you have age as a woman about 11 years per kid because sleep is. I'm fucked. It is, no, but it's true, right?

Like, biologically and the way you look, because sleep is the number one thing to keep you young, for recovery, for everything, right? A woman has a child, and of course, the father's sleep is interrupted. It is nothing like the mental stress, the physical stress, the physical toll it takes on your body. Everyone that I have looked into that has had this and has kids have always said, I feel like my aging was rapid once they had kids and for the first 10 years and they got no sleep. And I don't feel like I look how I feel inside.

And I do 100% understand why people want to do that to feel like on the outside, they look on the inside. Some of that I, yes, is because of society, but some of us people just want to feel good and feel like their outside matches their inside. I personally don't have a problem with it if a woman wants to get a facelift. 33 is wildly too young in my head. And, you know, for Ruby, it's hard because she has made that decision and something she's thought about and she really wants. And it must be frustrating when so many people say to you, you're so beautiful, you don't need it. I was about to say the same thing. I was like, she's stunning. I was shocked that she needed it. She didn't either. She has considered it for herself and she has decided she wants to feel better with it.

And so like my body, my choice, her body, her choice. I get that. It doesn't make me want it, but I'm not, I don't look at it. I don't get angry for what it is doing to other people because I don't have kids yet. And I wonder, I right now in 10, 15, 20 years, would I get a facelift? Probably. In all honesty, I don't think I need it, but I don't think I'd be opposed to it. Would that change if I had young girls, maybe. Maybe once I'm in your position and I'm like, oh my God, I don't want my beautiful daughters to think that they need to change their body. So for me, I'm in this weird place where I understand why people do it, but I don't feel as strongly as you do yet because I don't have those kids that I'm trying to lead an example for. The other question here, maybe this is

too harsh of a statement, but it is something that it makes me consider. Is having a facelift at 33 years old and talking about it so openly online, is it a betrayal to other women? And I say this very cautiously because I don't think that Ruby Tuesday made any decisions thinking, I am going to betray women. But it does add to this outrageous expectations that we have to maintain something that's unmaintainable. And I guess like starting this so young, knowing that 33 is an incredibly young age to do something like this, does it not just shift the bar again and make it even more challenging for women to maintain the standards, the beauty standards, because physically by doing this at 33 years old, what she is essentially doing as an influencer is she's moving the goalpost

herself. She's moving it to a whole new place where it's even harder to maintain. But this is exactly why I just posed the question to you. It's an impossible choice to make and there's no right or wrong answer because on one hand, you be honest with your audience so that they know, on the other hand, you don't protect the young from influence and then you lead your audience down a garden path of like, I just look like this because of my skincare where that's not the case. I just think it's shit. You know, it's shit being a woman. And this was what I was chatting to Matt about last night. And I know that that's not a hot take by any means. But I was like, you get to just get through life and you just get to age. You just get to age. And no one's going to question it. You get to age and you get to

work in media. You get to age and get gray hair and people will say that you're hot and you're a silver fox. I was like, you just get to enjoy aging. For us, there is nothing that is off limits. You get your boobs fixed. You get your butt fixed. You get your fucking lymphatic drainage done. There is something to fix every part of your body that you don't like. Every single part as a woman. You get a facelift. 93% of facelifts are women. Only 7% of men get facelifts. 93%. We have been led to hate ourselves so much. And on that, with some of the statistics around this, it's 67% of surgeons say that their average facelift patient is trending younger with notable increases among patients 30s and 40s. For me, of course it makes sense for surgeons to say things like,

well, if you get the facelift done earlier, it's preventative. It's preventative. You're going to have a better, like, as in like you're going to get more out of it. So they're going to have a better success. You're going to recover faster. Which they are all true things. Totally. But also what that means is like you then as a business of being a plastic surgeon, you get the same customer twice, because if someone's getting a facelift in their 30s, they are absolutely getting a secondary facelift in their 50s. Whereas before, you'd be lucky if you got one facelift ever, because by the time you're getting it, you're already 60 and soon you're 90 and who fucking cares. Also on that, though, the financial side of things, like the two things about facelift as well, financially and medically, these things

are massive deals. The majority of the population will never be able to afford something like that. And the results in recovery are so risky for these procedures. And I think my concern with that and what you guys are saying as well is with it being so prominent on social media and normalizing it. It's like, are you dividing the population even more of people that can do this and they have this like beautiful level of youth that is so unattainable because of cost, because of time, because of everything. But also the amount of risk. Like I just hate that it's normal. You know what's crazy is so many women, it's taking a serious turn now, but I just think about news articles I've read, women I've seen online, so many women have died in plastic surgery. And I'm not talking about facelist.

I'm sure that they have, something's gone wrong. But I remember the BBLs, like the Brazilian butt lift is one of the most dangerous procedures. I saw a young mom of like three on the news a couple of weeks ago that was a fit and healthy mom, went in for BBL and passed away because of an infection and what happens in there. And I just think one thing that I have noticed is, and maybe it's only in the last maybe six months, because Laura, I also get fed a lot of before and afters and plastic surgery stories because I find them fascinating. It doesn't make me want them, but I have almost been anti-influenced recently. There have been a lot of people that have been promoting the things that have gone wrong. So they've gone and got their face lifts.

There's one Australian woman that I've been following for last six months maybe, and she has had infection after infection after infection in her. her eyes and it's a little bit lopsided and scarring hasn't gone down and it was not a success story. And I thought, oh, maybe we need to see more of those as like an anti-promote. People that are like, it is not all glorious and not all of them go as well as you think that they do. Yeah, and I've seen people that have had, you know, irreparable nerve damage through having facelifts. You know, they've had their face repositioned and the nerve that don't have any feeling left in their face. There's also, I think, with the dawn of AI, it's really hard to see what's fucking real and

not real. There's so many plastic surgeons from overseas surgeries that are creating AI versions of before and after surgeries that actually aren't even real or they're doctored. And it's really hard for most people to figure out what is and isn't actually a legitimate surgical outcome. That's why I also think that there's just so many dangers with people going, oh, I went to Korea and I got my facelift in Korea and this is the outcome because maybe in Australia, if you were to go to an Australian plastic surgeon and you're 33 years old, they might try and talk you. out of it. They might actually have a bit more of a discussion around whether this is or isn't necessary. And not only whether this is or isn't necessary, but like maybe there's some other

things here, like going and having some counselling around why you're so insecure about the way you look at 33 years old as to whether it's necessary. And I'm not saying, I don't want to say that this is just about Ruby Tuesday. This is truly for anyone who's 33 who decided to go and get a facelift. I just, I don't know. I think that the more that we see these types of things, all it does normalise it. And I dare say that in 10 years time, getting a facelift at 30 is going to be like the new boot job. And that to me is deeply inherently frightening. And I do not want that world for my daughters. What I will say is it's definitely cultural as well. I saw this and I will find where this documentary is coming out. I saw this documentary advertised on Instagram in the last

couple of weeks. And it was a woman that went to do this investigation in Korea. Now, about 25% of South Korean women between 19 and 29 have undergone plastic surgery. Most parents will gift their daughters plastic surgery vouchers for their graduations. That is something that in that culture is already pretty normalized, 25 percent, a quarter of the population of women between 18 and 29 have already had it. It is super concerning and I also would hate the idea that my daughter all come to me one day at 18 and want to get plastic surgery. I would hate the thought of that. But also, how do you have that conversation with them if you've done it yourself? You know, like that's what I keep coming back to. I will say, do as I say, not as I do. That's what my mom used

to say to me. I would love to put this back on you guys and truly know what you think. Would you rather people be really open with the work they've done so that you are hyper aware of it and not comparing yourself to something that is unattainable? Or do you think that that is so damaging and in a way promoting something that you don't think should be accessible to young people. That's the question. What do we want? Everyone that we see post something, we're putting those pressures on them. Thank you for being transparent.

You shouldn't have been so transparent. I would love to know what you guys would prefer as a consumer of this kind of content. Well, it is time for suck and sweet. Our highlight and our low light of the week. I'm going to start with my suck. My laptop this week and my laptop is only 18 months sold about. Are you taking producer Sophie's suck? Is that what's happening here?

No, she reminded me. This laptop right now in my hot little hand is brand spanking new because my laptop just stopped turning on. It is not old and I took it in and they were like basically there's nothing we can do and I lost everything. No, that is devastating. Everything I ever have, ever. Because you don't back anything up onto anything other than onto your computer. Yeah. What goes, though, I have my normal shit that goes to EyeCloud, right?

But anything that I have ever saved to that computer, which is a lot of stuff because every computer that I have gotten over the last, you know, as you do, five, 10 years, you transfer it. And it goes when you set it up, goes, do you want to transfer this computer to that computer? Yeah. This one was unsavable. It was dead and it was only 18 months old. So I lost everything. There's two times of people. There's people that back up. And then there's people that don't. And I live in the don't because I like to live with this feeling of risk and it makes me feel alive and nothing is backed up. And every so often I lose like baby photos, wedding photos. Do you know what I'm upset about? I'm trying to figure it out is the wedding. Wedding photographers always save the photo.

Yeah, but they can't save everything forever. How are they sent to you? How are they sent to you? So this is what I do, right? Because I'm not very good with technology. Okay. So when, shock, when everything gets sent to me, so I open the link on my laptop, download all to a laptop.

It doesn't go save anywhere. But you'll still have the link in an email somewhere? Yeah, but they always expire. No. They always have a, because they can't have every photographer ever can't have every single wedding available. Wedding photographers back up their photos. And if they don't, then they...

Yours didn't even film your dance. No, my wedding. No, that was my videographer who I do not promote. But my wedding photographer is amazing. And once a year when it comes to my anniversary, I'm like, hey, can you send me the link again to my wedding? And he's always like, here it is, you fucking idiot. He's like, I never delete a single wedding.

He's like, I have every wedding saved. I will never delete a wedding for this reason. God, imagine his story costs. I think if you're a wedding photographer, you're backing that shit up for this exact reason because you can't trust your client. Well, look, that's my suck. Yeah, I get it. So I've learned a hard lesson.

I am. I also have a suck this week. that is, is that I think I'm getting played by my five-year-old currently today, literally getting played like a little fiddle. Lola is a tiny bit sick, a whiff of sickness. She's fine. And she woke up this morning and put on such a pantomime around her sickness so that she could get the day off.

And then it was only once the day off was solidified. I'd email school. I came home from dropping Mali off at school, fucking playing Aqua and dancing around the lounge room. Like she is fine. Yeah, I'm a barbie girl. I am more shook that that is still trending. Yeah.

It's also really not age. appropriate. If you listen to the lyrics of I'm a Barbie girl, I'm your dolly. Yeah, it's not. Ew, actually, yeah. I'm your doll, rock and roll. It's a lot. Anyway, Matt's at home dealing with this. And we've realized that he's the soft parent. I am the rules parent. And I was like, if you're at home today and you're sick, you are not watching TV, you are not having fun. Being home is boring. And so I was upstairs getting ready to come into work. And she comes up and she goes, just checking when you're leaving. She's playing.

Oh yeah, she's playing me like a fiddle. And she's playing Matthew Johnson like a fiddle. That's it. Not me. Him. Because he's a suck. We as kids, I'm one of four. We never really took sick days because my parents were the kind of parents that were like,

if you're too sick to go to school and you stay home sick. You stay in bed. Yeah, they were like, you're too sick to watch TV. You're too sick to do anything. You will stay in that bed and sleep. And then we were like, this is fucked. So we just always went to school. Well, that is exactly what I said.

said to Matt this morning, he's like, she's sick though, she has to watch some, and I was like, that you're just, you are rewarding. She is well enough to be at school. I think I'm a bit of a hard-ass with stuff like that. One of us has to be. Can I just sorry, can I just read you the lyrics of, sorry. You're never letting her. I know, I know the lyrics. She's too young to understand them. Listen to this. This goes perfectly with our conversation about how cooked the pressures are on women. I'm a Barbie girl in a Barbie world. Life is plastic. It's fantastic. You can brush my hair Undress me everywhere. Imagination life is your creation.

Come on, Barbie. Let's go party. Yeah, but then it says, I'm a blonde bimbo girl in a fantasy world. Dress me up. Make it tight. I'm your dolly. You're my doll. Rock and roll.

Kiss me here. Touch me there. Hanky, pinky. We used to sing that like it was just, we used to sing it like the words were, I'm going to the beach with my friend. Like it was, we were like, undress me everywhere. We were five. Yeah.

You've got to stop. led and her. All right. Anyways, that's a whole other thing to unpack. Speaking of music, though, we do have something very exciting to tell you about. Last week, this is like a work highlight in general, Alex Warren, who sings, ordinary, carry you home. He's 11 billion streams.

He's like gone 10 times platinum. I love that script for many times. Grammy nominated 10 billion streams, 10 time platinum, sells out arenas, the one and only, Alex Warren. Okay, so his music is amazing. He's just launched a new album and we got to host what was the album launch. and then we interviewed him on stage. If you have not listened to the exclusive interview that we did with him last week,

he is incredible. His story is incredible. The way he is so openly shares what he went through, he lost both his parents. He lived in a car for a period. He talks about grief. He talks about regret. Everything he shares is so raw and honest in a way that you just wouldn't expect from someone who is as famous as what he is.

He's got a very dark sense of humor. So all his trauma is wrapped up in the, these little sprinkles of comedy because that's how he deals with his past. And I just have never come across somebody. Like, we are lucky enough in this industry for radio and podcasting. We have done literally thousands of interviews and spoken to so many people. Alex Warren has to be by far one of the most likable, humble, down-to-earth people that I have ever come across.

So young as well. It's ridiculous. He's 26. I thought he's 25. I think he's just about to turn 26. Okay, it was 26. Anyway, he's so, he's so successful, but so young. And when you speak to him, he sounds like, because of the way he shares his story, he sounds like he must be far older than what he is. He's just experienced so much life. To be honest. Wise beyond his years. Yeah. I mean, that's probably the

saying. Well, link it in the show notes, guys. If you haven't listened to that yet, that is an absolute must listen. Like, we truly loved doing that interview. And it's a really short one as well. Because when you interview someone as massive as Alex Warren, you get tiny amounts of time. But it's just pure gold. It's like 25 minutes of pure gold. And can I share some of the little comments you guys have been getting from the back of that? We have gotten so many messages to our Instagram and Facebook. But someone said it is the most I have ever laughed and cried in 23 minutes in my life. Honestly, go listen to it.

It was an emotional rollercoaster. Like the whiplash you get from that from being like so moved to in hysterics was like none other. Brilliant. Well, anyway, guys, that is it from us. If you have any questions for Ask Gun Cut, slide on into the DMs, If you want to share any accidentally unfiltered stories, also slide into the DMs. And you can also join the conversation by getting onto our Facebook discussion group, which is the Life on Cut Facebook discussion group.

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