Life Uncut - Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater at the Wicked Premiere & Should You Loyalty Test Your Partner?

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

Hey guys!Britt and Keeshia have spent the entire weekend together and they're the friends that ask you if you can come to Africa tomorrow.Laura shared a story about some of the early days of Marlie's life that aren't quite her best moments! Laura would love to know how many times your kid accidentally rolled off the bed? We unpack the goss from the Wicked premiere! We were interested in how they would approach the PR of the film given the reputational damage that Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater suffered after having a rumoured 'affair.' We wondered whether they would take a 'Don't Worry Darling" approach (Harry Styles and Olivia Wilde) where they kept space from each other in public, or if they would lean in to their romance!There was one line in the movie that we are shocked they kept in!Plus, what would bring you to 'loyalty test' your partner?We speak about the 'how' and the 'why' you may get to a place where you consider conducting a loyalty test. Is the entrapment just as bad as the potential cheating? If you'd like to have your say on the content we make, you can fill in our survey! You can watch us on Youtube Find us on Instagram Join us on tiktok Or join the Facebook Discussion Group Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! xx  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode was recorded on Camaragal land. Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Brittany. And I'm Laura. Welcome back, everybody, to a Tuesday episode. Britt, you and Keisha hung out for the entire weekend. We did. It wasn't planned. Keisha just came over and didn't leave. for like three days i miss the days of catching up with a girlfriend and then just staying with them for the whole weekend one plan rolling into another plan you guys messaged and

you were like we're gonna go to blackwood and get breakfast and i was like i'm coming just let me figure out how to ditch my children and you're like hang on matt's not here i can't ditch them then i got a call and keisha was like actually there's no tables we're just gonna get takeaway and walk and i was like fuck i can't do this three-year-old ain't gonna walk she's not gonna walk anywhere my knees hurt so then I went home my knees hurt too no but it's the it's the idea of having fluid plans like we had zero plans that rolled into a weekend of plans and that's because we had no responsibilities and like no one else I had to keep alive well Delilah but she can just kind of go with it she's cool she just trots along and follows us but it's it actually makes me

realized I'm so excited so over the Christmas period I'm going to see Ben in Romania but Sherry and Jay and my new little niece like my sister's new daughter Maya is going to come to Romania so they're going to stay with us for a week in Ben's two-bedroom flat I'm really really excited to like spend that time with him and I said to Ben this would be really great insight because Ben Ben's never been around a kid right but he thinks he has which is the funniest part well this is how the conversation went ready come along the ride with me do you think we should have kids like do you want kids and he's like yeah i think i want kids i think i'd be a great dad and i was like have you been around kids much and he's like yeah i've been around heaps kids and i'm like what do

you mean by being around them because like i've been to a shopping center before there was a woman that walked past with a stroller they sit in the stands at the football field i used to watch rugrats no he'd be like i have heaps of friends with kids and i was like yeah but what's the most length of time and he'll be like oh i've been to lunch with them before and like held them and stuff and i'm like fucking lol k no you have not been around a kid like that is not a clear indication if you want a child or not. Yeah. But I also argue that like, and I kind of empathize with what Ben's saying, because I don't think that being around other people's children is what necessarily makes you want to or not want to have kids. Because maybe for some people,

it does. Some people really have that maternal pull. And every time that they're around their friend's children, they had this real like, you know, overwhelming feeling of the, okay, I really want to have my own children. But like, I never had that. And I think there's a lot of people that never have that. Obviously I love my friend's children, kids, my friend's children, even that sounded weird. I love my sister's kids. Like, you know, the other kids in my life that are not my own, I love them, but I never, ever had the maternal pull by being around them ever. Yeah. But it's not, I don't want him to be around the kid to see if the maternal pulls there. That's not what I want. I just don't think he understands the level of like what you have to do

24 seven to like, I think he just thinks you can put it down for a while and like go about your day and then come back and get it. No, you kind of can when they're really little, just put them going to pray and put them in the corner. Do you think anyone ever knows though? Do you know what I mean? Like, do you think, do you think you had a good idea of what it was going to be like Laura before you had them? Guys, I still think about this, right? So, I mean, it's so many, so many years have passed now and Marley's fine. So no one's going to come for me, but I still remember when Marley was, she was like four and a half months old and I would take her to work with me every day. So she came with me. Is that when you put her back in the post office and return to

send her? I had to shove her back inside me. It's like, I'm done. Matt's like, what are you doing? and you're like, she won't be in there. Can you not gyrate? She's trying to scream about her child. Okay, so I was taking Marley to work with me every day into Tony May into the office. And life uncut. And life uncut.

She came with me everywhere. Downstairs. What happens when you're a newborn? And you don't get maternity leave. So downstairs is the shop at Tony May. I'm guessing most people have not been in there. And upstairs is the office. So she was asleep.

She was in the pram and I left her in the kitchen, which is at the back of the shop. and there's kind of like saloon like cowboy doors that kind of swing open so you can see below the doors right if you're standing inside the shop so I'm upstairs I'm doing work and I hear everyone starts screaming and then a baby starts screaming and I was like what the fuck is going on and then I hear this woman go oh my god there's a baby on the floor and Marley had I mean that's how we discovered she was rolling she had rolled out of the bassinet fallen out of the bugaboo and landed just like starfish on the ground as a four-month-old baby.

You have never in five years told me this. Yeah, because I was horrified. Sink or swim, Molly. Come on, get into the workplace. I ran downstairs and no one had even picked her up. She was just in the kitchen on the ground crying. I picked her up and I was like, there, there. I looked like such an incompetent mother.

Well, first of all, who has a saloon? No, like saloon doors, like not a saloon. you know when you walk in it's like your baby's supposed to be here I love that that's the part that you hung on to from that story well the other thing didn't surprise me leaving a baby alone in the kitchen that rolled out didn't surprise me it was the having a saloon that got me yeah I'd be interested to know like a poll of how many mums out there like no like how many times did your kid roll off the bed by accident like did it happen once it was like did it did it never happen to you are you a better parent than me I think it happens

all the time one of my favorite not not endorsing it this is not my vibe for the week let your kid roll off the bed well it's character building one of my favorite things to watch online and it's not the videos where the kids get hurt have you seen those videos where it's just a montage of parents that have saved their kid at the last minute and not saved them from like a car or something but like a kid's about to roll off the lounge and the dad reaches out and has it by one leg in the air i love that stuff but i'm like wow how quickly it can happen the near misses yeah yeah no one likes the actual kids it's just the near miss okay well look not to make this too kid focused for the start of this but something that's very big in our life at the moment which I wanted to share

with you guys so Marley's starting school next year wild I know five years considering that the day that we started this podcast I think I was like seven months pregnant at the time you were birthing her yeah and then we got our first season out when she was just born and now she's starting school so I kind of like benchmark a lot of our milestones of the fact that like Marley's at the age that she's at yeah and so many that means that so many of you guys your listeners i mean we know you come along the journey with us in like in our love lives and everything that happens but like so much you've been there like our listeners have been there since she was born so she's starting school and we had orientation last week for her and this was an orientation for her so

like they have like a kid's orientation next week she starts that but this was orientation for the parents so all the parents go and they sit in the school hall and like we got told about the canteen about after school care and there was a little kindergartner who got up and she did a speech around how much she loves going to school and all the things that she learned at school she had a speech and she was reading it amazing then they had like the year six school captains who did their little speech as well and it really gave me so much nostalgia for when I was at school like do you remember being in year six or being in kindergarten and getting a buddy and getting paired with like another kid to show you around the school like the older kid yeah so when I was

in year six I didn't get a buddy because I wasn't well enough behaved I was too naughty I had two and I didn't get it yeah no doubt the craziest thing though when I was in year six I my buddy who was in kindergarten one of the two I still follow her on Instagram she's awesome I love her she has two children and I'm like you know when you're just you have that moment where you're like oh I thought I was still a child but you're you're like I was meant to look after you when you were in kindergarten and now you have two children of your own you're like how do you have two children when i'm still a teenager oh that's right i'm in my 30s that's your child pregnancy i was um school captain so i was probably too busy to have a buddy like i always forget that

you were school captain i was running the school so it was pretty big job i didn't see that coming i was high school in primary school i was an overachiever yeah it's hard to it's hard to see now i get that because now i can't get my shit together my mom had to beg our school principal not to expel me because i punched him in the face no wonder you had no buddy I was in year four. She told a boy named **** that I wanted to have sex with him. And I was in year four. And then I found out what that meant. So I punched her in the face in front of the assembly. How does she even know that in year four? I'm concerned. I punched a boy in the face and I'll never forget it. I can picture exactly where we were outside of the

canteen, probably in year four as well. I picture exactly what happened. I can remember what he said. And he said this really mean thing about my brother. And I said, say it again and I'll punch you in the face and he just looked at me and said it again and I just went boom and punched him in the face and I was like it was like one of those things where I was like only I can say shit about you know those things I'm like I can I probably agree with you but you can't say it I can say it and I got in so much trouble and you were still the school captain and I got almost expelled yeah for legal reasons I would like to say that on this podcast we don't endorse children rolling on the floor when they're babies or punching people in the face no no

violence is never the answer kids okay well i've got some gossip for you last night was the world premiere of wicked world premiere the we were the first people in the entire world to see the new wicked movie with ariana grande ethan slater jonathan bailey i don't know why australia gets picked to be the world leader i have a theory and i didn't think about this until this morning because last night i was really like wow of all the places like can australia i think it's because the movie Wicked and the Wizard of Oz stories are all based in Oz. So they've brought their premiere to Oz. But Gladiator's world premiere last week was in Oz too. Yeah, I don't know about that one. I have no theories for Gladiator, but my current theory is that they must have launched

it in Australia because of the Oz connection. We'll go with that. This is the movie that Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater had an affair on. So you guys might remember, we were speaking about this. we talked about this affair that went down and the backlash, the reputational damage that happened off the back of it. For those of you who don't remember, Ethan Slater, he was married to Lily Jay and they had a three-month-old baby when the rumors of an affair with Ariana Grande came out. And I would say that it's not uncommon for affairs to happen on set, but it is uncommon for it to happen when you have a baby at home. And the backlash to it was so quick and so severe. people were calling Ariana Grande a homewrecker. And Lily J came out, she did a very damning

article with Page Six, an interview at the time, and she called Ariana Grande not a girl's girl. They've very rarely been seen together as a couple. And now they're on their promotional tour for the movie that was responsible for them both leaving their respective partners. And you should have seen the tens of thousands of people, of fans, that came out to see the exact same thing. Like, I shouldn't say the exact same thing. They're probably just fans of them and wanted to see them. As we got there, we had to get our Uber driver to drop us off like four blocks up the road. There were thousands and thousands of people lining the street. They didn't have passes to go and see the movie because there were also some tickets given out to people who were really

big fans of Wicked and stuff. There were a lot of people going to see the movie as well, but there were thousands of people lining the streets just waiting to get that. It must have only been 15 seconds of when they get out of their security cars and walk the yellow brick road into the theater I've never seen anything like it was like you were a salmon all pushed together and you could barely walk like it was like you were at a concert it's like going to vivid worse but it was so fascinating because they were Ethan and Ariana were together like they were holding hands and it was really interesting to see after like two years and this is the only thing that makes what they did remotely better is that you're like okay if you end up together and get married and you

ended up being soulmates it almost becomes more palatable like more acceptable if they just had this affair and then broke up like three months later and they ruined all their lives then you want to hate on them forever but it was interesting to see how people I think a lot of people just forget that it happened I mean we don't because we're in the media and we talk about it but I think a lot of people and that went to show with the amount of fans that came just screaming and crying I think a lot of people forget that it even happens what I thought was interesting was that How it worked is that when we walked into the state theatre, there are different levels to the theatre and we were on the lower level

and so everyone eventually takes their seats and then the cast of the movie were introduced onto the stage and they did a little bit of a Q&A with some of the cast members, including this from Ariana Grande. Give people the chance because there are so many layers to everything and there's so much humanness and context that gets erased these days and I feel like I hope it inspires people to lead with empathy and with more love and maybe they'll need someone like Elphaba who will pop

their bubble someday. But as they were standing on stage and the thing that I was really interested by was do you remember when Don't Worry Darling was going through all of their controversy that was the Harry Styles and Olivia Wilde controversy and whenever they were doing the PR circuit anywhere they were they almost somewhat deliberately kept them separate like quite far away from each other and I was curious about how they were going to approach all of the PR that they were doing for Wicked so on the stage Ethan was quite far to the left and Ariana was almost as far as you could be to the right there were like maybe four people in between the two of them on the stage and I did find that quite interesting but then later before the film came on the actors

because it was the world premiere it was the first time that they were probably seeing it with a crowd, if not seeing it in total, they actually went to the middle level of the theatre and Ariana and Ethan were holding hands as they were walking down to the seats. And then they sat down together and watched the whole film together as a couple. I think it's very different though. And I think it's the proximity of the controversy, because when you think about someone like Harry Styles and Olivia Wilde, they were in the midst of the storm. They were literally in the eye of the storm of the controversy around their relationship. And that came out during the promotional tour. this the breakdown of their relationships ariana's breakdown of her marriage and ethan's breakdown of

his marriage that all happened almost a year and a half ago now or two years ago and so i think having that distance between is what has allowed them to kind of move into the premiere and everything and be a united front as a couple without having the level of hatred but one thing and i'm going to do a spoiler here for people i'm going to do a spoiler for one line in the movie So if you don't want to listen, fast forward now a minute. The movie was brilliant. Like I genuinely loved it. I got goosebumps.

I was in it. It's a musical. What about for people who hate musicals? You still would love it. I think you would enjoy it. It's the most amazing cinematography I have ever seen of any film. It's brilliant. It was exceptional.

So keep in mind that Ariana and Ethan are upstairs. Like they're in the crowd watching, right? Everyone is quiet. and Ethan's character is pining over Ariana in the movie and at one point she asks him to do something for her. She's like, can you go do this for me? And he's like, yes. And she's like, oh, my God, that's so amazing.

And he looks at her and everything's silent and he goes, there is nothing I wouldn't do to be with you. And it was such a pointed statement considering that he left his entire family to be with her and the audience, and they're up there, and the audience, some people, like they gasped, some people laughed, some people were loud, like collectively because people were like, people were so shocked that they made a choice, a directorial choice to keep that line in there.

I turned to Britt and I was like, I cannot believe after all of the shit that they had to go through filming this movie and all of the bad PR that they had to navigate, they left that in. But maybe that was a strategy. Maybe that's part of the PR-able. it's interesting because I think that your take on this is that they haven't or that they've overcome the reputational damage where I would say from the outset and the way that media still talks about them that they haven't and the fact that they've been able to so like they've kept

themselves private for the past year was absolutely intentional the amount of hate that the two of them received all of the articles that came out and the page six article in particular like you can't outrun that and so I think the only way to try and distance yourself from it is literally distance yourself from it with the space and the time that they have. That's why I was so shocked at the start that they kept the line in because if they had completely overcome it, then the line wouldn't matter so much. But because they're still in the thick of it, I feel like all the line was doing was doubling down on it.

But I also, Keisha and I had this discussion. Keisha was like, I cannot believe they left that in. And I said, I can't. I didn't think it was that needed. I don't think the movie would have been any different if they had to remove that line. And so they have made a pretty active decision to leave it in there. maybe it's because of the press that it will get because people are going to talk I mean I was particularly shocked about it as we walked out I was like how about them leaving that in that's

pretty crazy I do wonder whether the affair will have a positive or negative impact on the box office like on the on people watching it are people going to watch it because they're going to want to see them falling in love and see what it was about their chemistry or their relationship that made him walk away from his like sweetheart or is it going to be a situation where people because cheating is something that we feel so morally like it's so strong like people's perceptions and feelings around cheating like there's nothing that kind of parallels except for like actual heinous crimes so like is that gonna have an impact where people go out of my own moral judgment i'm not gonna go and see this because i can't support something that was born

out of a cheating scandal no people's morals aren't high enough for this stuff for years we've been told that they fell in love on set right people want to see what it was i was shocked at how little interactions they had in the movie he's not a key character it's very similar to sydney sweeney and glenn powell so you know the recent movie that came out anyone but you it's been panned as like the most terrible movies i loved it i loved it too i loved it if you read any we love a rom-com but if you my point is if you read any review it's like terrible script terrible acting terrible plot like people people didn't like it but for the whole PR tour, the question on everyone's lips is, are they together? Did his girlfriend leave

because something happened? Has she left her fiance because they were playing it up? People wanted to then go and see the movie more because they thought that maybe in real life it had translated. They came out after and were like, yeah, like you lean into it. You give the people what they want. But also it makes you question like, is it a storyline? Is it just something that's PR-able? I don't know. I mean, it's a very easy way of covering up something that might have happened but on that I fucking love that movie and I think that anyone who said it was shit just doesn't like a cheesy rom-com I do think that the key difference between those and even with the Olivia Wilde Harry Styles kind of dilemma as well I do think that the key difference is what

you spoke about at the very start laws and that's the fact that Ethan's ex-wife now or wife at the time had a three-month-old baby and so we can feel very different about cheating when it's just like adults involved and you know their feelings are going to get hurt but I think it's a really really different thing for us to grasp when there's children involved especially when they're so young and for anyone who may have been through that process themselves of having a baby and imagining what their life was like with a three-month-old and having to watch you one of the most famous women in the world be with your partner yeah I was particularly interested to see their interactions last night and I left more confused. The last thing to come out of this on a high note

is that I got to see my hall pass. One of, there's a few. Speaking of affairs. One of my hall passes and my crush in real life. This one's probably the safest because he's gay. Yeah, he's gay. Can a hall pass still be a hall pass if he doesn't ever want to touch me? Absolutely. It's a fantasy. Brittany, your hall pass could be fucking Big Bird for all anyone minds. That's sick, Laura. Beastiality gets weird. Could it be? What was that dinosaur, the purple one? Also sick.

Barney. Barney. Beastiality. It's illegal. Why are you into Barney? Why do you want to think about me having sex with Barney? I reckon if Barney was real, Barney would be hot. No, so Jonathan Bailey, I think I'm not alone in this.

Jonathan Bailey is from Bridgerton. He is a beautiful, beautiful man. I think I fell in love with his character on Bridgerton. I don't know. But it was really nice to see him. But I don't know if I should change my whole past considering that he only dates men. I think it is safer to have a hall pass that you're never going to have the opportunity to have sex with. Because it becomes a problem if it's someone who could potentially be attainable

and might also want to return serve. Yeah, I think Ben's happy. Ben's like, fuck, go for it, babe. Try your luck. Well, speaking of cheating, and I know that this has kind of become a common theme of this episode, but there's something that is happening on TikTok at the moment and it is a real trend that has taken over the algorithm. And that is something that is called loyalty testing. Now, if you haven't heard of loyalty testing, it's had over 125 million tags on TikTok. It's also very prevalent on Instagram as well. And it may be coming to your algorithm soon. But the way that it works is basically there are profiles and users on both platforms who you can pay money to,

to loyalty test your partner. So if you are unsure as to whether they would be faithful, if they were put in the position where a hot woman or a hot man was flirting with them, you can now pay someone to do that and to be that person and to get the cold hard proof for you. I guess I had a few questions about this because the moral and ethical issues with this are very, very obvious. But I think it's interesting to unpack the how and the why does someone get to a place where they feel as though they need to loyalty test their relationship? And also, So what's the impact of doing so when you or if you find out that somebody has or could be unfaithful to you?

Because is it as impactful and is it still infidelity if you have technically entrapped your partner into the situation that they're in? Have a listen to this. I used to do loyalty tests. Girls would have me DM their boyfriends and flirt with them to see if they would flirt back or stay loyal. I would sign in by pretending like I was moving to whatever city he lived in and then asking him to be my tour guide.

you'll be shocked how many guys fell for this like as if i wanted jake from kappa sig to show me around like denver like i have maps babe i'm good then the girl would like basically just tell me everything to say and then i would eventually ask if he had a girlfriend and if he lied then i gave her the screenshots and she could just like break up with him i had to stop some of them got depressing and also i realized a lot of guys out there are idiots like the conversations i have with these guys i don't know how you guys do it i don't know how you guys date these guys like you guys are in the trenches here i just think it's wild that this is people's jobs that people are making money from testing other people's relationships if you can make money from selling

your feet online i am not surprised that you can make money from trying to tempt someone's partner to cheat with you the thing is a lot of people out there can see the enticing effect that selling your feet for money would make right it's they're attached to the bottom of you you don't have to put your face in it you can make bank and a lot of people have foot fetishes but a lot of people cheat as well. It doesn't surprise me how many people cheat. It surprises me how many people would want to go to the level of trying to find out for a multitude of reasons if their partner's cheating. So my take on this though is like, like I said, it's very obvious to everybody here that it is not healthy to loyalty test your partner. But I would also say that to get to that point

where you feel as though you need to loyalty test your partner, it's probably been a long road of decaying your trust of feeling as though you can't believe your surroundings. Like you have the intuition that something's going on, but they're telling you that you're crazy. So I would say that like, and I think for anyone who's been in a really toxic relationship where they've been cheated on, you can kind of remove yourself from it a little bit and understand how someone might get to the point where they feel as though this is their only option to figure out whether or not their partner is truthful or not. No, I, and I do understand it. I do understand why some people are like, I just need to know. I need to know. It's easy for us to sit back and say, if you feel

like you don't trust your partner, then you shouldn't be in the relationship. We've all done it. We've all gone back to cheaters. We know what it's like to be sucked into that toxic vortex. Some people need that one little bit of evidence, the nail in the coffin to be like, yes, this is what I needed to actually walk away. Like to actively see you engage with someone else, pretend I don't exist. That's what I want. But I think it goes to a deeper level too. It's easy for our brain to go first to that being the reason why people do loyalty tests. But I think there's another aspect, which is people feeling insecure in themselves. And I'm not putting this blame on anyone, but there are a lot of people that have trouble trusting in a

relationship due to nothing that their partner is doing, but simply due to the past that they've experienced. So maybe they've been cheated on horrifically multiple times. Maybe they have huge trust issues that they have taken into their new relationship. And maybe it's just like, you know, well, this has happened to me this many times. I'm just going to make sure that he's a good one. So if they pass the loyalty test, which the testers have said loads of people pass, like, yeah, a lot of people was like, no, sorry, I've got a girlfriend or block or whatever. Exactly. So then the loyalty tester will screenshot that, send it to them and be like, you know, he passed, they passed, she passed. What happens then if you do pass, but your partner

finds out that you loyalty tested them that is another level of betrayal on them because then they're going to say well you don't trust me so they've lost trust in you it's like trust is a two-way street of course I mean could you imagine being in a relationship where you found out that your partner paid money to have some random person on the internet test your loyalty test whether or not you would be tempted I think for this though the real issue is that could be a reverse you know card like reverse you know I'm leaving you you don't trust me enough that you've tested me yeah yeah I was just trying to think of like how Matt would respond to that and it would not be good for me this is an itch that will never be scratched because I think if you are in a

relationship where you're suspicious and you have that intuition that something is wrong or you feel as though your partner may be unfaithful if presented with the opportunity even if you get back a response that they didn't do it or that they passed that sort of test I don't think that it will satisfy the feeling of uncertainty. I don't think that it will instantly absolve. And the reason why I say that is because it's kind of like if you've ever found yourself in a situation where you're looking at your partner's phone. And I know that a lot of people will relate to this if you've ever been in a relationship where you found yourself checking their phone because you think they're being unfaithful. Even if you don't find something one time,

you'll probably look again. Because just because you didn't find something one time doesn't mean that instantly that feeling, that intuition, that like, holy shit, I can't trust my reality is actually satisfied by not uncovering anything. And I just think that this is the scratch that can't be itched. The itch that can't be scratched. The itch that can't be scratched. You can't scratch that itch. I actually think that there's certain relationships I've been in, one particular that was just very, very bad. And I was bad in it as well. And I remember being at a point where like I never paid anyone to do a loyalty test, but had it have been around, my initial reaction now is like, if you would ever actually want to do that, you've got so many problems in your

relationship that you should just break up anyway. But in the stage of my relationship, and I actually think I would have been in a position where I would have rather found out that he was cheating than found out nothing. I was so suspicious of everything that was going on. I'd been gaslit so badly that I genuinely was questioning every aspect of my reality. And I think just having the evidence of something would have made me feel as though I wasn't losing my mind you know yeah it would have been satisfaction in that even though it was hurtful information it makes me sad that 125 million people have created content off the back of this because that's where they've found themselves in their relationships I don't think 125 million people

are doing it for that reason we also live in a society where we want to make content the people that want to watch this shit I think the fact that this content is available also pushes people to make the content I think people would be getting this idea to do this when this idea never would have even popped into their head they're like I might do a loyalty test I think we are such an impressionable generation that there'll be people doing it that wouldn't normally do it as well imagine if you did this and then the outcome was that your partner failed the loyalty test like what do you then do with that information go viral yeah exactly but I need to create a fund so you can financially profit everything for clicks it's also not reliable evidence of

fidelity or infidelity. Having one person slide into your DM and hit you up, there's a high chance that they're not interested in the person anyway. They're not attracted to the person. Maybe they're too busy with all their other partners they're cheating on you with to add another one to the mix. I don't think it's the evidence that people want. Is it still considered infidelity if nothing was ever going to amount from it? If it is literally a trap that has been coerced and conditioned to try and get the outcome of cheating, is it still as bad as if they had gone out and just done it spontaneously? Absolutely. I don't think there's a difference between spontaneous cheating or what did you just call it? Intentional cheating. No,

like intentional spontaneous cheating, right? There's two types. Well, there's multiple types. I don't think there's a difference. If they commit to the cheating, it doesn't matter if they went to find it or if they responded to a stimulus that was presented to them out of the blue at the end of the day you still cheat it I kind of say this similar to you know when we get a lot of messages from people for ask uncut and it's essentially them saying I've gone through my partner's phone and I found this thing and I don't know how to bring it up with them because I feel really bad about the thing that I did if we're comparing entrapment or like trying to find out whether your partner's cheating with they were cheating and they got caught to me yes they're

both sins but one's a lot bigger than the other like trying to find out the entrapment part to me doesn't seem as bad of a break of the relationship I feel like that about checking someone's phone but I don't feel like that about paying someone to intentionally flirt with your partner it's pretty full-on so like and that's the problem I guess like we've always sort of said okay well what's the worst of two evils is it the fact that you went through their phone or is it the fact that you found something it's the fact that you found something but in this instance i actually think it's the action of paying someone to be that person to try and like tempt the partner is also equally as bad yeah but then it depends on the outcome because if they do say

yeah let's fuck i've got this hotel then you're going to be like yes queen that is you knew deep down that's why you figured this out do you know what i mean like it depends um no but that's what i mean it depends on the outcome as to whether you say that something was worth something that's anything in life. This is not going to come as a surprise, people. Guys, it goes back to communicate and I don't mean go and say, hey, are you cheating on me? Because they're not going to say yes. No one is ever going to be like, oh, you got me. I'm so glad you asked. That's never going to happen. But communicate that you feel insecure in a relationship and why. Gauge their response. We say this all the time. The way, if you go to your partner and you present the way you're

feeling and the why, their reaction is so telltale to what your relationship is, the respect that they have for the relationship and how they feel about you. Because if they throw that back in your face, if they don't listen, if nothing changes, it's going to tell you a whole lot more anyway. I also just think it depends on how much of a master manipulator you are in a relationship with. But I do think a lot of people find themselves in relationships where that uncertainty comes because the person that they're in that relationship with is a narcissist or is like so deeply toxic and they are so able to lie that that means they question their entire reality around them. And I think in those situations, it is almost impossible to get to the bottom of it.

It's almost impossible to figure out fact from fiction. I've done some crazy shit in my past relationship. I have done. You were wild. I've never paid anyone to try and get to the bottom of it, but I definitely found myself in a relationship where I felt so insane. I did not recognize myself anymore I got to the point where I was setting up fake Instagram profiles to be able to follow to figure out what was going on because I couldn't see from my own profile because I'd been blocked on certain things I'd used you know how on Instagram you can tag a location if it's on a public profile you can see all of the things that have had that location and that's one way that I found out that I was being cheated on wow because the girl that he was with

posted and tagged the location as well and I was like oh my god it's her and like I think about that now and I'm like that is craziness if you have to look at a location tag to see whether someone is with him and you find it like I shouldn't have been in that relationship but I was so so destroyed I had no self-confidence that I wanted evidence of the fact that what I thought was going on was going totally looking for it I mean we've said this from the very first day that we started this podcast. There are some people in the world who will inflame your crazy. You may not be crazy in relationships, but you may meet someone who makes you behave in a way that is absolutely not a version of you that you like, that you're proud of, or that you even identify

with. And I think about that person that I became in that relationship and I was absolutely fucking insane. And I desperately wanted to find truth because I couldn't believe what was happening around me. I guess kind of coming full circle on this, obviously it is wrong and I definitely am not endorsing it, but part of me understands how someone could get there. It is absolutely unhealthy. And if you find yourself there, leave the relationship. But also if you find yourself feeling as though you need to do it, you got to ask yourself, well, what led me to this point? It's time for Accidentally Unfiltered. This morning I got to work super early and outside of our lobby, they had put up this massive, gorgeous Christmas tree. Naturally, I decided

to take a pic and then i noticed there was a guy sleeping underneath it my heart just shattered on the spot i crouched down very concerned and i said hey how are you can i get you something a coffee your breakfast like anything that you need and the guy looks me dead in the eyes and goes no i'm all right thanks i've got a pretty big day putting up these trees he was a worker that's just working oh fear though if you're laying down under the tree i think she did the right thing i think i think he was like trying to fix something like he wasn't sleeping he was he was putting the base of the tree on did i tell you about the time that i um bought a bread roll like a i gave a pizza to a guy who was on the street and he threw it at me

and hit me in the back of the head and said, I asked for money, not pizza, you bitch. That's what happened. Maybe he didn't like Hawaiian. He didn't. It was pineapple and pizza. It's controversial, isn't it? It is.

All right, it's time for Sucks and Sweet. Brittany, what is your suck for the week? My suck is very unrelatable. What happened? Well, it is. It's very unrelatable. Because Ben and I are long distance and I guess because he's a footballer, like he does things every week that usually he would be on Google for, right?

So I can keep up to date with sometimes when he was in Scotland, I would just Google him every week and you'd get what people are saying about the game, what they're saying. And he does it to me too because we don't get to keep up with each other's lives. He'll be like, I'll see what people are saying about Brittany this week. Since he's moved to Romania, it's been really hard to find stuff on him, but I just thought because he'd only been there a few months,

no one was saying anything. Like nothing comes up. And I've just realised last night, Romania news is blocked in Australia. I can never Google Ben. Romanian news is blocked? Like, yeah, nothing, nothing comes up. I cannot see a thing. And I even got a VPN.

To try and get around his Romanian blocker? I got a VPN, logged in like I was in Romania and it was smart enough to know and it was like Romania's blocked from your VPN. I don't know if it's got anything to do with, like, Andrew Tate. I don't know what it is, a political thing. But I can't find him on there. So it's, yeah. You just have to talk to him in real life.

I have to fucking talk to him, man, twice a day. When you want to just read the Daily Mail article. Just get a loyalty tester over in Romania. I just want to, yeah. I can't even find one, Keisha, because I can't get into Romania. So that's my stuff. Very unrelatable. But, like, I can't keep up to date with him.

I have to actually talk in real life. What is your sweet? My sweet? Probably spent the whole weekend with Keisha. I was literally here like, is it me? I shut down on weekends. I'm a very unsocial person. Yeah, but weekends are good recharge time.

I get it. Yep. So usually Delilah and I don't talk to another human. we just go about our day we walk we exercise we go for a swim we whatever we catch up on life but I spent the whole weekend with Keisha caught up with some other friends went to Wicked it was just a I just had a wholesome weekend what's your suck my suck for the week is that Matt was away for the weekend so he was down the coast he was checking like all of the changes for the house you guys probably know that we're doing this renovation on the house down south and he went down there to

kind of like tick off some of the stuff that's been achieved in the last couple of weeks and I I just felt really sad because I wanted to see it. I was like, I want to be in there and see all the changes. And he did that and then he had like a boys' weekend down south and I was just jealous. I think he more used an excuse for checking on the house to have a boys' weekend. Oh, yeah, 100%.

Like that wasn't even. He's like, babe, there's lots to check on on the house. There was no mystery around that. It was very evident. He went down there, he saw the house only on Friday night, but then he was away for the whole weekend. Which, to be fair, Matt does not spend a lot of time with like the boys.

at all he's not like a you know go to the pub on a Sunday kind of guy at all with his friends so when he does go there's a lot of grace for it but he was gone he was off and he was doing boy things my sweet for the week is that we kicked some very big and amazing Tony May goals in the last week we had two different new collection shoots one which was bridal and one which was for these new birth stone earrings that are coming out in the next couple of weeks they look fire it's kind of weird sometimes to flick between like I am podcaster by day and jury designer by night but like every so often when I'm like properly in the zone with Tony May it's really satisfying and I love it so much and so like creatively we had these two massive shoots which went seamlessly and now we have these

two big collections coming out so it was just a very good work week and I got to the end of it and I was absolutely wrecked I needed my weekend but it was like a very achieving week for work And then you had to full-time solo pairing. Love that. And it's all coming soon. So it's Black Friday. Anyway. I'm sure we'll drop some codes on Life Uncut.

There'll be some sort of a Black Friday. Black Friday's coming, everybody. It's coming. And that's it from us, guys. A very big thank you to anybody who went onto our socials recently and filled out the survey, which means big changes and big things are coming in 2025 for Life Uncut. It is so important that you guys give us that feedback because we are here to make a product for you.

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