Life Uncut - Ask Uncut Aftermath!

Episode Date: January 7, 2026

Hey Lifers! We hope you’re enjoying your summer period. While we are on holidays we thought it was time for our most requested episode - ASK UNCUT AFTERMATH!! The highlight of our jobs are getti...ng an insight into your deepest, burning dilemmas. We often wonder “what happened next??” And today we have some answers to that question! Some of you took our ‘advice,’ others absolutely didn’t 😂 If you’d like to flash back to the original question and response, each episode is linked below: I HAVE A CRUSH ON MY HUSBAND'S BROTHER  BEEN EXCLUDED FROM FRIEND GROUP  HOW DO I TELL MY HUSBAND I’VE BEEN ADDING TOMATO TO HIS DISHES?!  IS A 6 MIN VOICE NOTE FROM A POTENTIAL DATE A RED FLAG? NAVIGATING EX AND NEW PARTNER AROUND MY SON HE LIED ABOUT HAVING AN STI SEPARATED BUT I NEED SEX - DO I GO THE APPS?! - DON’T WANT EX TO KNOW   You can watch us on Youtube Find us on Instagram Join us on tiktok Or join the Facebook Discussion Group Hosted by Britt Hockley & Laura Byrne Produced by Keeshia Pettit Video Produced by Vanessa Beckford Recorded on Cammeraygal Land Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! XxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. I'm Brittany and it's holiday season. Welcome to our festive little holiday content drop. I mean, what is this? What do you reckon we're doing right now in future Laura, Brittany and Keisha? Oh, what is it? I'm having sex for sure. Do you do anything else when you're with them? Well, sorry, I don't see him for three months yet. And actually, no, we just go red hot for like a week and then it dies down. I was going to say, by this time,
Starting point is 00:00:35 you would have been with him for four weeks if you're still doing it at that point. Well done. Get a TV. Get a job. Get some chores. Nah, we won't be doing anything at this point. Let's be real.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Okay, so at this point now, two weeks into January, who knows? I think I'll probably be lying on a beach somewhere. Oh, that sounds nice. I'm hoping to have painted the remainder of my house. The DIY got put on hold for a while because we got Bonnie and so I'm really hoping to have that finished. I win.
Starting point is 00:01:04 I'm the most interesting. Sorry, guys. We really have different aspirations. I mean, you've got on your holiday calendar, we have a calendar, like a shared time tree that we all share together and Britt just has Milan as one of her updates. I've got a la dollar. Sorry, can I tell you what that is?
Starting point is 00:01:19 I've got Bonnie de sexy. Yeah, they're very different. Milan is my update, but Milan, sorry. okay we need to set the scene here we have a shared calendar for work but we also put all our extra stuff it's become our main calendar we put it in in case we've got an interview that wants a different time frame we're like oh we can't brit has another skin appointment so we we have a shared calendar like that but that milan i'm not in milan that's my reminder that that's the like sometimes i put the teams that ben's playing in there so i know where he'll
Starting point is 00:01:50 be got you so Milan so it's also Ben's calendar now too that's great it's Ben's in Milan it's to help us with like scheduling conflicts but this works well no you guys know we are on holidays but in the interim we wanted to bring you some tasty little morsels and this my dear friends is a long-awaited ask uncut aftermath this isn't a tasty little morsel this is like when you go away on holiday and you wake up in the morning to it or you can eat buffet like we are bringing you the goodness in this aftermath there are some pretty fucking funny aftermaths here and there some some serious ones and some sad ones too you guys send in so many questions and we've said this from the get-go we receive thousands of questions we do not receive thousands of updates okay and it
Starting point is 00:02:29 is a sore point it hurts us that we don't know what's happened in all of your lives you take our advice we don't know if you actually implement it or not or whether you just crash and burn yeah well sometimes we get ghosted heaps it reminds me of dating true true but also sometimes it's like one of those things where you want the advice like your friend will say you shouldn't date him like it's terrible. Don't sleep with him again. You deserve better. And then you know that they're right, but you do it anyway. And we're not here to judge. We want to know, even if you did do it anyway, even if you didn't take our advice, tell us, we want to know, but we did receive so many since we did the last Ask Uncut Aftermath, which was in June, we received a lot of updates. So we
Starting point is 00:03:05 have some really good ones for you guys. And I know that you feel the same that we do, that you hear the questions and you just want to know where our life are at. There are questions I still think about from years ago like did that chick have her cousin's baby i will never i will never be able to move on with my life until i know if she had her cousin's kid yeah i reckon she did she's not well maybe she did because she's not letting us know how do you tell your arnie at like christmas lunch be like well i don't inception you don't tell it you don't tell anyone i think you have to because the cousin is the dad of the baby no but he didn't know no dude he didn't know she was pregnant yeah Yeah, but you've got to tell them if he's a dad.
Starting point is 00:03:45 But she's with her husband. That was the – Laura forgot the affair. No, so she had an affair. Just to backtrack, she was married and they were having trouble falling pregnant. Then she ended up hooking up with a cousin at a wedding, falling pregnant but not knowing then if it was from the husband
Starting point is 00:04:01 or the cousin and that's why it was such a predicament because they'd been trying. I remember the question but I still think that if you choose to have your cousin's baby, the kid needs to know who its father is. I disagree. Who is your father? That secret goes to the grave. All right, let's kick this off.
Starting point is 00:04:17 The way that we're going to do this is the same way we did on the last episode, where we're going to play you the original question. We're going to quickly recap what our answer was, and then we're going to get the update. All right, hit it. I have a crush on my husband's brother. Perfect. I feel like we can end there.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Don't do it. That's a terrible idea. Okay, for context. My husband and I live in Australia. Both of our immediate families are overseas. We've been together for 13 years, married for eight, and share a two-year-old daughter, and I love him. we have our ups and downs like normal couple right now my brother-in-law is visiting from
Starting point is 00:04:47 overseas with his seven-year-old daughter and they are staying with us for two weeks his wife will be joining him at a later part of the holiday in another city so we're not going to be seeing her at all ever since dating my husband every time i see his brother i just feel like i want to impress him this is the first time he's ever been to australia and i feel like the crush is getting more intense i even have this sexual fantasy with him in my head i feel horny and try to put out the fire by banging my husband instead which is really good for him i guess i can't explain no imagine if you told him imagine imagine if he knew no you don't i know you wouldn't i know you wouldn't but like imagine you're like which is really good for him and said
Starting point is 00:05:29 just imagine if he knew that while you were fucking him you're thinking of his brother i can't explain it not that it will ever lead to anything but the fact i constantly want to impress him drives me crazy what should I do I feel like this needs no explaining we said that that was a terrible idea and you should stay away from the brother don't like don't do anything you it's a fantasy it's the forbidden fruit and that's why you're you know feel like there's some more intensity around it we were just like it's a no it's a no everything about this is a no I'm pretty sure I said that it was like they're probably very similar and it's like the upgraded version of your husband because you don't see all this all the baggage and shit doesn't come with
Starting point is 00:06:04 it the dad life and the nagging and everything else so he probably looks like your husband but just doesn't have all the extra stuff that wants to drag you down? It was a very straightforward answer because I think any normal person who heard that question would be like, oh, objectively terrible idea. Don't do anything. Don't fuck your brother anymore. Just continue to fuck your husband and pretend like it's his brother if that's going to get you off.
Starting point is 00:06:24 But don't tell anyone. Take it to the grave. You're not actually in love with your husband's brother. I also love this question. I love that it wasn't like getting something off your chest. It was a genuine question. At the end it was like, what should I do? nothing okay well we have an update and to be like i appreciate how much you have felt about
Starting point is 00:06:44 this and how like once you heard the answer you were like no i because like there wasn't much time in between and she says that in the answer she really wanted to let us know what the aftermath is here and you know we applaud you i know what's the thing we um we listen and we don't judge we listen and we don't judge you'd have an episode last year that was titled we judge and we don't listen. I feel like that's what this one is. Okay. I have to give you the aftermath instantly because I just can't go on about my day without letting this out. They left and continued with their trip before this episode even aired. Nothing happened. Both of you are right. It is the naughtiness and the forbidden fruit and also the upgraded version of my husband in the sense of no
Starting point is 00:07:27 stress attached but just the happy holiday mood I did enjoy the hand touches messages and all the moments that we got close with or without my husband around they were all innocent though and to answer your question what if he's also keen well that's the fantasy and the feeling that I can't shake I feel like we're gonna kiss what wait I feel like we're gonna kiss but we are both adult enough to know that this is just going to be a one-off situation, satisfying the temptation. Then we're just going to go back to our families. It's really taking up lots of brain space for me. Now that he's gone, I feel a void. I'm still looking at the pictures, thinking about the good times that we shared, asking my husband what they're up to. I feel like this fantasy is never
Starting point is 00:08:16 going to go away now that it's been so intensified. And even if I try my best to squash it down, it'll come back when we go overseas to see my husband's family i hate that i'm looking forward to seeing him again anyway thanks so much for sharing your thoughts i'm so glad that i can at least tell someone about this my deepest dark secret it makes me feel better kiss kiss i think we're gonna kiss it took okay that answer took such a turn it was like a dog leg in the road i appreciated the uter everything was like the hand touches no she was like you're right it is a fantasy I'm you know nothing happened I'm so great we're gonna make out it's gonna happen I'm gonna fuck my life up watch me do it you know when she says that I imagine it to be like a scene
Starting point is 00:08:58 out of a movie you know how she's like the hand touches the moments I picture it like they they're like chopping dinner and cooking and it's just a graze across the hand like a little eye like it's very romantic in my mind but the thing that gets me is like I know you're right but we're just gonna kiss and then we'll go back to our families we're just gonna like have a little smooch smooch and then like play on you can't smooch your brother-in-law and play on there's no play on button it's a pause rewind and then scratch of the cd like it's it's done in dead in the water if you make out with your brother-in-law you're cooked like a rotisserie chicken also is it worth the risk because there's a very good chance someone's gonna find out at some point someone
Starting point is 00:09:38 might find out if you make out with your brother-in-law is it worth blowing up your life for a little bit of a fantasy i just don't think so you know what there's also a make out there's i'm not ever condoning cheating with what i'm about to say but cheating's when we say cheating is not all black and white there is a difference with cheating and making out with someone on a night out and making out with your husband's brother like that is the ultimate betrayal you do not come back from that you might come back from a slip-up cheating elsewhere you're not coming back he's never forgiving you the brother-in-law's wife is never forgiving you your family will be ripped apart it is absolutely not worth it tell this life what you really feel i do
Starting point is 00:10:16 it's not it is i'm not look i love it i love the life today look could you get away with a mistaken i did i'd had a few margaritas and i thought it was paul all right identical twins but like and i'm not i'm not judging the life or i love her i love that she wrote in i'm just saying unequivocally it's a bad idea don't do it like 2026 the year that you made out with your brother-in-law that's gonna really go down in history I reckon it's a terrible idea I think you also know it's a terrible idea but as you said I reckon you're gonna kiss and then you're just gonna go back to your merry life you know I do think I do think that this is gonna be one of those situations where it just keeps intensifying especially the way that she's gone about and said it she's like I feel like this
Starting point is 00:10:56 fantasy is never gonna go away now it's been so intensified the only issue is well actually there's a few but the big issue is if you make out with him it's never going back that is only going to intensify the fantasy that's going to turn into a full-fledged affair I actually feel as though the anticipatory dopamine that you're getting from this fantasy there is no way that actually kissing him is going to live up to that no I think that you're getting the most amount of excitement because it's like oh I wonder and like that's all exciting I actually reckon that if you did and I'm not suggesting you should just to be clear I just don't think it's actually going to live up to what you think it might I disagree I think it'll just up the ante it'll go from being
Starting point is 00:11:40 just a kiss to just a finger bang and then just a finger bang to just a you know it's gonna yeah she's gonna destroy me there is no fucking way that they're gonna kiss and be like oh it's done yeah the bitch is gone like it is it will turn into something scratched oh wow thank god we did that she's gonna be like yeah get your wheelie out it's just a bad idea there's just nothing in it there's no part of me it's a bad idea it's a bad idea and if you missed it it's a bad idea thank you for the update though we're grateful but we are gonna need an update if you kiss him we listen and we judge thank you thank you it doesn't mean I like you any less because I'm telling you it's a bad idea what it does mean is though whatever you decide to do if you do do it
Starting point is 00:12:25 we also need to know because you are you are anonymous so we just need to know okay this could be like the never-ending update like i want like an every three month update should we get her on the pod yeah she's the life of bonus ep we can blur her face yeah so tell me a little bit about your childhood all right next question sorry next question just wind back all right well this question actually was I think the most interactive with ask uncut question that we put on our Instagram of the year it had over 5,000 responses to it and it was actually shared 630 times and I think that a lot of the comments you know reading kind of between the lines it showed how relatable this was to so many people amongst their own friendship groups
Starting point is 00:13:11 so this is what the initial question was am I being overly sensitive or is it completely okay that I feel devastated about this. I found out recently that my very close group of girlfriends created another group chat that I wasn't invited to. Now the story behind this is one of my best friends has gone away for her 40th to Port Douglas with two of our other girlfriends and I had absolutely no idea about it. I hadn't been invited. I only found out when I asked where she was when she didn't turn up to our kids football game. She told me on the day that she had spoiled herself with a little trip to Port Douglas however she didn't mention who it was with only it was for her 40th. I asked her who she went with and she never replied despite having
Starting point is 00:13:51 a huge conversation via text. I found out from another mum that she's gone away with two of our best friends. This has absolutely devastated me as I thought our friendship was on the same level and would never have thought that I would be excluded or that I wouldn't be invited or even for it to be mentioned to me. I feel like it's been hidden from me. I feel like completely shutting down what should I do I just don't trust them anymore am I being too sensitive or is this a very valid feeling this one like really hurt my heart a little bit and I think I gave the advice of I don't think you need to have a chat with them necessarily because I mean actions can sometimes speak louder than words they've done it they made a group chat they they knew what they were doing
Starting point is 00:14:32 yeah the only thing I want to say quickly is which is unrelated to that it just made me giggle as I listening it's a bit unrelated but when she says like they went to port douglas and it just made me sorry it just made me think of and when she's like they didn't show up it made me think of when i had my birthday in port stevens and laura didn't show up and it's because she drove three hours to port douglas no she drove to i i drove to the wrong port south i drove no you it wasn't you didn't have it in no you had in shoal bay and she drove to shoal haven oh shoal bay shoal haven i I was like, where are you talking about? No.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Because you said south earlier in the week. And so I just assumed, and I know where Shoalhaven is. I grew up down that way. So I just got in the car, started driving. And then when I put the thing in the maps, I was like, you fuck off. Brittany, you said south. And it is evidently north. For anyone who's not from around here, Shoal Bay is probably two and a half hours,
Starting point is 00:15:25 maybe even three from where we are. Shoalhaven's what, an hour and a half south? Yeah. So she drove seven hours. She goes three hours, three hours, and then an hour and a half. Anyway, we digress. Look, in this instance, it was very evident that, like, it was a purposeful thing.
Starting point is 00:15:40 They created a separate group chat to be able to create and have a conversation about this birthday party or birthday trip away. You weren't invited. And as devastating as that was for you, I think where we landed with this is that sometimes in friendship groups you can feel a lot closer to people than what they necessarily are to you. And so this felt like, and looked like a very one-sided friendship and your response to that
Starting point is 00:16:05 really reinforced this. Okay. This is the aftermath. I avoided the group to protect my heart and my insecurities. It took me a while to accept that maybe I just wasn't as close to the group as I thought I was. The friend whose birthday it was actually approached me and confronted me about it. She said that quote, they didn't even think about me at the time and didn't even think to invite me which is actually worse like why would you say sorry like why would you even say that she said she knows that this sounds worse and then she's sick inside about it all the time well that's a lie I said that yep that does sound worse and that I thought I was worth more to her she said that we have been through so much this year and she knows that we can get past this
Starting point is 00:16:46 but I disagree wholeheartedly I was completely validated by the response on the podcast and worked out that i deserved better than this situation i am civil and polite if i see them but i've detached myself from them completely if they wanted me there then they wouldn't have thought twice and i would have been there unfortunately it is what it is ps for context there was no real catalyst to this it just happened i got promoted and now i work at a different location but the connection and friendship still stayed strong and i still live in the same small town i'm sure there is more to this in their own little world which is probably true like there's always something people think different things or
Starting point is 00:17:23 people think something's gone down that hasn't or maybe someone has said that someone said something like there's always more to a story usually and I'm not saying that against this girl I'm just saying in their heads you know maybe there was a bit of jealousy because she got promoted maybe there was jealousy absolutely look it's a bit mean girls which I am not so my ability to recognize that this hurt me and that I needed to be protective of my heart came from the validation i got from you girls on the podcast i've never felt so supported in a space where i feel so alone i'm a better person for it all that's so sad but you know when i read this and also listening back to when you first wrote the question as much as she might say oh we didn't even think to invite
Starting point is 00:18:01 you my guess would be that because there was a separate group chat that was created and you were the only person missing from it it was quite an intentional thing it was intentional and as much as she might you know try and dress it up in whatever way possible turning around and saying oh we just totally forgot that you existed it almost just rubbed salt in the wound like there was such an unnecessary conversation it could have just been a hey I'm really sorry you know for whatever is the true reason and then I guess it would have given you more clarity but in this sort of situation you've done the only thing you can do and that's pull away from the friendship it was definitely intentional for that reason but the only other thing that like this response
Starting point is 00:18:39 doubled down and validated our response when she said that they didn't even think about me at the time and didn't even think to invite me that woman's response to you and the way she handled it really validates that you've done the right thing and that they're not the right group of friends because she even knows what she's doing in that by going to you and saying sorry I didn't even think of you she knows what that does she's a grown-ass woman yeah but I do think going back to the start, Lakeish, and when you said it had more than 600 shares, if there's anything to take away from this, it's the fact that you are not the only person going through this. Like I can guarantee you those shares was sending to friends being like, wow, this is familiar, isn't it? Like
Starting point is 00:19:20 people just absolutely relating to that. And unfortunately it also, you think that this kind of thing you grow out of in school, you think that once you're out of school that this finishes and the same kind of issues you have dissipate, but they don't, they just evolve and they're in every generation. And I know people in their sixties that are having friendship issues. Like it doesn't change. It just evolves and looks a little bit different in each chapter. All right. Next question. Now this is one that was supposed to be a little bit of fun on social media. We cut this one down because it was lighthearted. We took it seriously as we do with all of our questions, But the content and the context of it really wasn't that serious.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I would say we got roasted like a roast tomato. We did. We did. We did get roasted. Particularly on TikTok. People were like, I can't believe how irresponsible this is. We were getting all of the labels. But also, we said don't do it.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I just want it to be clear because we only put the question out. I'm pretty sure I said it was fine. And we were like, this is not a great idea. We don't think that you should microdose your husband. Anyway, have a listen. No, Keisha said, does he have life insurance? Do it. have a listen to the question how do i tell my husband i've been adding tomatoes to his
Starting point is 00:20:31 sorry this is so stupid to his dishes hear me out though you'll know why my husband told me when we met that he is allergic to tomatoes as in he gets ibs from it and he ends up on the toilet for six years i have not cooked with tomatoes can you imagine how hard that is no tomato in any dishes it has been hell but about four weeks ago i got ballsy and i started adding tomatoes to things. That is ballsy if someone's allergic. Like to the bolognese. Lol. She writes. I even blended it so he wouldn't see it. Oh my God. It tasted amazing. God, I'd miss tomatoes. It had been so long. Anyways, he didn't run to the toilet afterwards. And he said that that was my best bolognese yet. Obviously because I had fucking tomatoes in it.
Starting point is 00:21:15 So the last four weeks I have been adding tomatoes to our dinners and hiding it. And then he has been completely fine so my issue is this how do i tell him that he's not allergic to tomatoes or do i just never tell him help he will soon be so mad if he finds out what i've done to him so not only was uh he going to be mad the internet was mad the internet was mad because the internet is convinced that you were trying to murder your husband it's mushroom gate all over again is what the internet thought about this one but also he wasn't anaphylactic no he had an intolerance he she Because all she said was he didn't run to the toilet. So he obviously always, it probably just upset his stomach.
Starting point is 00:21:56 So she's like, fuck it, I'm going to try. Yeah, but this is my issue. A lot of people say that they've got an allergy to something, but really they've just got the mildest of intolerances. Like the amount of people that are like, wheat, dairy, onions, gluten, garlic. And I'm like, I know it's not comfortable. I know it hurts the belly. Every single thing you just said is actually me.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Wheat, garlic, dairy. Sorry, Britt. I meant to say that to you. I hate it when you complain. But I don't say I'm allergic. I can still, oh, I'm still smashing a garlic bread. I know what it'll do to me after, but I'll do it. Which is the thing I love about you because I know that you shouldn't eat it,
Starting point is 00:22:30 but you're like, it's fucking good and I will. I was like, I'll do it later. I'm going to be home for a couple of hours. Yeah, you know that Kate Moss phrase? It's like nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. Fuck off. It's a lie. Heaps of things taste way better.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Nothing tastes as good as garlic bread. Everything tastes better. But I also shared that I had an ex that I know was lying about the fact that he was lactose intolerant because I think he thought it made him seem a little bit more like evolved, you know, like he only drinks nut milk. Truly. I used to cook with it all the time and people also came for me in the comments.
Starting point is 00:23:02 And maybe sometimes that's the problem when we just share the question and we don't share our response because we did get absolutely reamed up the butthole with this one. But we did say don't do it. we have a laugh and ha ha ha but we also said like look if the guy's allergic maybe maybe let him know that he should test it out and see and maybe do it that in a safe place with an epi pen and triple o i also just love that people felt so angry and i know who those angry people were it was not the people with a nut allergy it was not the people with a shellfish allergy it was the
Starting point is 00:23:32 people who say i can't eat gluten or i'll die it was those they were the people that were popping off in comment section anyway don't come for me okay this is the aftermath it's very short and week I did come clean after the comments on your post made me feel so guilty which I hate I'm sorry imagine when it's you and I supported you yeah Keisha did I actually forgot to add the most important part to my question though this is the fact that my lovely husband was told also not to eat curry coffee alcohol because of these reactions but he still has all of those things all the time so he just cherry picked the tomato he probably just doesn't think he likes them maybe he's got gout maybe it was a gout thing because that's all like they're all gouty foods so i felt
Starting point is 00:24:15 a little justified giving him the tomato knowing he was eating the curry coffee alcohol when he also told he couldn't why should me and our kids suffer lol he was surprisingly okay after i told him but now i am back to making two separate dinners oh that's such a ball egg get him to make his own dinner i reckon he just didn't like tomatoes so he added it into the allergy list i think that from the list here it sounds as though he's on an like a fodmap diet like the anti-inflammatory style yes he's got yeah i mean he might have something guy's got ibs he's like that we're diagnosing him now too we're also now dieticians and he appears to be uh bloated and immunologists all right next question i still feel weird about this one i still think about it
Starting point is 00:25:02 And I honestly was like, I hope that she did not go on this date. Like, I hope that she didn't pity date the person who would send this. Have a listen. Is a six minute voice note from a potential date a red flag? Yes. Now, this needs some context because generally speaking, a six minute voice note could be. My friend was chatting to a guy on Hinge for two days, so 48 hours. They eventually exchanged numbers and after four days they planned to meet.
Starting point is 00:25:27 But she got cold feet because he was appearing too keen. keen as in messaging multiple times throughout the day without her responding and he would do things such as react to messages to get her attention in hopes that she would respond oh no so he's like written to her she's not written back so he's like you know where you put the question mark bubble oh that's so awkward she attempted the slow fade away replying after 24 to 48 hours however he wasn't getting the message and she decided to tell him she just wasn't interested in pursuing anything. As a response, he sent her a six-minute voice message attempting to convince her to give him a chance. My friend is considering giving him a go because she
Starting point is 00:26:07 appreciates the effort he has made. Now, keep in mind, they haven't actually met. I think this is an awful idea and a six-minute voice message is a big giant red flag. What would you do? It is a red flag. I still stand by that. He sent her a podcast. He created his own podcast it's a short film and sent it to her i was very strong about this i was like that is a red flag any person that you have not met firstly and you've said actually do you know what i'm not interested and they badger you to this extent is like that to me is if you need to do if it's a six minute pitch if you are like bleeding you are pitching yourself you got a fucking powerpoint you're like these are the reasons you should go on a date with me like no one should be that
Starting point is 00:26:51 frothing at the bit to get the date and you also should never go on a date because you pity someone it's not gonna end well don't pity them don't pity date them how many that's how we know i don't pity fuck i never have you i pity dated and i pity stayed too long but i haven't pity sex i wonder if people have pity fucked us do you reckon no i don't reckon i don't reckon i've ever needed a pity fuck with it is really humbling when you turn it around the other way isn't it Because I absolutely have and now obviously I don't recommend it. It doesn't leave you feeling good. It's a terrible idea.
Starting point is 00:27:26 They didn't make me do it. I did it because I felt bad for the whole situation and then I felt even worse afterwards. I wonder if any man has walked away from that with me and been like, God, I pity fucked her. I also wonder if I was to make a list of the people that I assume it would have come from, it would probably surprise me that it was the ones that I don't assume.
Starting point is 00:27:44 No, I'm not saying. It's different. Guys aren't pity fucking. Guys aren't like, oh. I thought you liked me. Guys aren't like the poor thing. I'll have sex with a guy. Guys will do it with anyone.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Guys are like, yeah, let's do it. That's not a pity fight. Do you know what? We make jokes, but actually it is pretty gross. Like the only times I've done it, I wouldn't say it's pity. It's because I felt badgered into it. I didn't have the self-confidence or the lack of. Laura's like, oh, this little incel.
Starting point is 00:28:05 No, the lack of people pleasing in me in my 20s. I was like, we ended up having sex and I was like, well, I didn't really want to do that. And that is like, we joking about it. And it's actually the grossest thing ever. Okay. but i'll read you the aftermath we're talking of gross things things got weird after the initial six minute voice message my friend decided to ignore the messages in hopes that he would stop
Starting point is 00:28:27 contacting her over the course of the following week he continued to try and make contact through messages asking when she was free to hang out a second voice memo and a cold call followed by a third voice message apologizing for the random phone call as he forgot he had already messaged her after this my friend decided to message him making it very explicitly clear that she wasn't interested and his behavior was too much he then got fiery and sent some not so nice messages to her my friend hasn't replied to any of these messages for quite some time and she blocked him you think that that would be the end of the story but unfortunately it isn't why why isn't it over yet he's a fucking crazy person things went quiet for a week or so he then requested to connect with
Starting point is 00:29:11 her on linkedin she declined and she blocked him then he applied for a position at her work p.s they do work in a similar profession however he would have seen her workplace through her linkedin profile thankfully her boss was aware of the situation and rejected his application there has been no news of him since but who knows when or how long until he pops up again this guy is dangerous that's a dangerous man yeah as much as we like we laughed at the start this is actually so bad aggression not taking the hint then trying to continue to connect with you elsewhere on LinkedIn and then applying for a job at your job is not a coincidence I do not care if you work in the same field this is like a he's I don't want to say he's stalking you yet I don't
Starting point is 00:29:57 want to throw that term around but this is absolutely not normal behavior and like very early signs of something that could potentially go south very quickly and also thank god she didn't go on that date with him because if that's the way he's behaving to someone who he's never met who he feels some sort of like bizarre connection with just via text messages imagine how bad that would have been if they'd actually gone on a date and he'd felt as though he had some sort of right or accessibility or anything like I mean I already think that that's scary enough it's also a really good lesson and a warning like don't go out on dates with people don't connect with people when your intuition is actually telling you oh this is feeling like it's not right it's feeling like a
Starting point is 00:30:37 red flag just because you don't want to upset someone or you don't want to inconvenience them or you know let them down like stick to what you think feels safe and also an additional thing that I think is really good is that she made her boss aware of the situation yeah because I think some of us would be like oh you know I don't really want to talk about it it's awkward and it makes me feel weird but you telling your boss and then your boss doing the right thing also enabled that application to be rejected like absolutely you imagine how much worse it would have been if they got hired in your workplace but it's also like the fact that he at the start going back to the start he badgered her enough that she was like oh maybe i should give it a go like he's putting in
Starting point is 00:31:14 the effort like just even that switch that a woman feels like that just because a man is showing interest that that is enough for us to go on a date with them like it's it's a wild message and definitely took it took a turn I don't I wonder if she went to her boss I imagine it more I don't imagine her going to her boss saying hey I've got this situation I'm really scared of I imagine she was more just updating people and like how crazy this person is that's you know like oh my god I was going on this guy date with this guy like it sounds like the boss and the workplace is probably more friendly I don't know my question is is how would she have known that he applied for the job like it would have had to have filtered down to her because like you know as a boss not everyone
Starting point is 00:31:52 in my team knows who has and hasn't applied for a job so there has to have been some sort of transparency well that's why I think that would probably I wonder if it's like I mean it's irrelevant I just wondered if it was like a friendlier workplace where like if you guys would come in and we'd all talk about our dates it's like me talking about a psycho and then I'm applying and you go yeah so I get the boss saying yeah but either way if there's anything to take from that it is absolutely trust your gut yeah and it's also that yes that was a red flag from the get-go all right next question five months ago my fiance and I broke up we have a 1.5 year old, one and a half year old boy together and are doing our best to stay civil for our
Starting point is 00:32:27 child. When we broke up, my ex asked that I introduce any new partners or potential step dads to him, my ex, before I introduced them to our son. I agreed and I asked for the same in return. But I recently met a really nice guy who has major potential to be my future. But it has me thinking that I want to experience what he is like around and with my son before I tell my ex and I'm seeing someone. I have mixed emotions as I do understand where my ex is coming from, but I also don't want to have to tell my ex when I'm seeing someone as this could potentially just happen again and again and again. If this guy doesn't work out, please help a girl out. What do you think is the best option here? I'm happy to have the conversation with my ex if the situation
Starting point is 00:33:10 needs to change, but I genuinely don't know what to do. So our advice on this one was, I mean, if you've made an agreement with someone and you've made an agreement about how to parent your child, you need to stick to that agreement. And also I kind of spoke from my personal experience. I met a lot of boyfriends and a lot of girlfriends growing up from my mom and from my dad, because they were both single and dating. And looking back now, I think my parents did the best that they could do with what they had and all that sort of shit. But like, I wish I had not met all the boyfriends or all the girlfriends. It was an unnecessary thing for them to trial their relationship on us as kids. And C, I think you only introduce a partner if you are absolutely
Starting point is 00:33:51 convinced that that partner is a long-term thing and that you actually are invested in them. I don't think you just introduce someone because you want to, oh, see how they are around my kid. Let's just check it out. Yeah. That was, that was kind of where we landed. Well, it's a short and sweet aftermath. Hey ladies. So I took your advice on board and I'm looking at things in a very different way now. I haven't yet introduced my son to the new guy, mainly protect him reflecting on your story growing up Laura I wanted to be sure the guy that I welcome my son to is my forever person and I will do anything to protect my son's confusion a bit of a twist though we love a twist a bit of a twist I recently found out his dad has a new partner and turns out our son has already
Starting point is 00:34:32 met her now this makes me feel a little bit sick that I didn't know about it nonetheless I am sticking to my plan to protect the well-being of our son thank you for the advice but also so shit that you're here questioning the conversation that you and your ex had around how to navigate this in like the kindest way possible and that he just went against it and did whatever the fuck he wanted to anyway like that was I would be there's nothing you can do about it but I think it shows volume of the character and I also think that like you know good on you for taking the stance of like okay this whole situation is going to be hard for all of us whether you're dating or you're not dating but the person's hardest for is a little child
Starting point is 00:35:13 who has these parental figures that are coming in and out of their life constantly and you know they don't know when someone's actually going to stick around I think you're doing the right thing so it's also hard though because no one really knows if something's forever like you might think something's forever and then you introduce someone that doesn't work out like totally the number of times I thought I had forever how yeah but I think you approach it differently when you've got kids like you might not think something's forever but you also might not think that something you might long term you might know that something's not as stable as it should be right but you're wanting it and so you're actually in love with the potential of the relationship
Starting point is 00:35:46 if you're in love with potential don't go introducing potential to your kids potential is like for when you're dating and the only person it impacts is yourself I think the person that you introduce your to your kids is that person that you're like I know they're sound and I know this is stable. Like that's a totally different conversation. Yeah. Well, the next question I'm sure most of you will remember, it's taking a little bit of a different tone. It doesn't unfortunately have the best outcome. Have a listen. I've been dating my boyfriend for about seven to eight months. He asked me to help him with some work medical claims. He sent over a pack of documents for me to read to help him write a letter. Now reading the documents, it said that
Starting point is 00:36:24 he has herpes. Now what I'm getting from this is that obviously he'd had some medical tests done that he needed to like obviously have like a health check didn't see all the results and he didn't realize that this was in the bylines for context when we first started dating i made sure that we both had had sexual health checks he was pushing to have sex without a condom at the time something that i had never done before and didn't feel comfortable doing without an sti check prior the test came back with no issues flagged so he started having unprotected sex seven months later I read this document. He says initially to me that, oh, he just forgot to tell me. Then ended up telling me that he intentionally lied to me because he thought I would break up with him if
Starting point is 00:37:04 I knew. Additional context to this is that his previous ex-girlfriend gave him the herpes and also didn't tell him until two months into their dating. I don't know what to do. I thought that this guy was my penguin. Help. Okay. I'm going to get straight into her response on this one. sadly this story sucks and is just heartbreaking for me my partner was so apologetic listened to everything I said went to couples therapy together and I really thought things could genuinely repair from this but fast forward another eight months and I have found out that he had been cheating on me constantly for that entire time with many people we continued couples therapy and he gaslit me the entire time through it I found out little snippets along the way but
Starting point is 00:37:45 I didn't know the full story I thought he would change that we could work things through he had no interest in changing any of his behavior. He became emotionally abusive by the end of our relationship and in one instance physically abusive. We've broken up now. I feel broken that I accepted this level of behavior in the beginning. I don't even know how I let this happen to me. It's definitely done a number on my self-worth and trust trying to rebuild and process this absolute shit show. I wish I had the strength to leave earlier. I love how Laura said in your most recent Aftermath episode about if she had loved herself more and prioritized how her partner was destroying her mental health, she would have chosen herself. I'm really trying hard to do
Starting point is 00:38:26 that now. And it was very powerful hearing that. I'm so sorry that you're going through this. And I think also this is a reminder about how when you're in a relationship with someone who is purposefully deceitful and purposefully manipulating you, the story and the situation, it's like a frog in a boiling pot of water like it starts off fine and it's like you don't realize what you're in until everything around you is fucking melting down and you can't get out like it really can happen to anyone if you are dating someone who is that level of manipulative and it sounds like that's exactly who this person was and I don't want you to take that on board as though you're the problem in this situation because your good nature fell for someone who is this fucking
Starting point is 00:39:11 like just corrupt in every every essence like no normal person cheats on their partner with multiple people is abusive lies about it and then goes to the extent of going to couples therapy to really to really solidify the lie like that's such a level of manipulation and deceit that it's no wonder that you kept thinking maybe it can get better because he's clearly trying you know what I mean like just don't blame yourself for how manipulative this piece of shit is and I also think that people in those situations like the line here I feel broken that I accepted this level of behavior I know all of us have been in it I know for sure I've been in it where there is a moment where you're kind of like I think it usually happens in a bedroom and you're alone and you go
Starting point is 00:39:56 how the fuck did I get here like how did I allow this to happen like what increments had to happen for me to get to this position this is so bad but that's it they're increments yeah and that's you accept one little thing at a time and then all of a sudden the entire reality is different and and you're like I don't understand how this happened you do understand because you can start to line up oh that was a lie and that was a lie and then he did that and that was a lie when he said he was here he was actually there and that was a lie yeah and it's like all of those pieces start to come together and when you can see them from afar you're like oh it makes so much sense but when you're in it you can't see that and also you wouldn't ever assume that someone would treat
Starting point is 00:40:35 you like that that's how it happens so gradually because you would never treat someone like that so that's that's kind of how the manipulation works on people like you because you would never be that fuck to another person yeah the thing in this is for me is that the most important thing is you're out and you've done and you've seen it and you realize it and you know it so that's great that's step one number two and I hate that you're saying it's done a number on my self-worth and my trust I'm trying to rebuild I don't know how to move on the thing that I really want to drive home in these situations is he has already taken so much of you and so much of your time and your energy and your self-worth don't let him take any more in your future and you know the saying
Starting point is 00:41:15 not all men I know it's most but it's not all it's I would hate for this to taint how you move into the future in terms of being able to trust people should it make you more wary absolutely do you have some blinders off now are you more aware of different behaviors you see red flags earlier yes and that is the beauty of living and learning and dating you take something from every relationship but don't let that impact your future like I still want you to go and date I still want you to go and try and meet people because there are some really beautiful people out there that would never ever treat you that way yeah but I do think it's really important to try and take a step back and figure out is there a pattern here like are you attracted to a type of person was this guy
Starting point is 00:41:56 a total outlier was he a total like just complete red herring that ended up being a different type of guy or have you always been attracted to people that end up lying and don't really treat you that well like often often this can be a slippery slope and it snowballs and then the last person you date is like wow he was way worse than the guy before that you know but it's because you have a type and I think look for the blueprint look for the type and if that is the case work on why the fuck do you have that type and try and break that pattern before you get back into dating or you will end up dating another person like this because you will seek them out and you will seek them out for all the qualities that you liked that were you know the intensity at the beginning
Starting point is 00:42:37 like you know and it can happen again this is our last aftermath of today we saved this one to the end because she basically was like screw you guys I like the headline for this separated but I need sex well let's unpack hey guys i need some help my husband and i had separated in march we've been together for 12 years married for seven with two kids under five it has been amicable and to be honest i think i mourn the relationship a long time before we actually separated my question is this though i am horny that's that's a statement lol in no way shape or form am i ready to date a man but a girl has needs my girlfriends keep saying that I should just get on the apps which seems like it's good in theory except that I live
Starting point is 00:43:22 in a very small city where everyone knows everyone and I know I will come across his mates on the apps who will tell him that I'm on there and then they will be even more nasty than he is now I just don't know if I should say fuck it and do it or is it too soon help so our response was vaguely along the lines of you can do whatever you want whenever you want but also if you know that going online in this really small town is going to be problematic and he's going to make your ex treat you worse and bring in all this stuff. It was like, is the juice worth the squeeze?
Starting point is 00:43:54 We were like, can you just go out and have sex organically? Like, can you meet in the wild so they don't know? Can you go away for a weekend and just like find a weekend park? There were all these options to be like, is there an easier way to get your juice without ruining the squeeze? Yeah, we were like, go, like set your notification, case you're you're at your distance to like i don't know sydney and then go and have a weekend away with the girls and not actually with the girls and just go hangs and bangs i don't know
Starting point is 00:44:20 a part of us were like do you want to introduce the drama into your life this soon after separation or if you're happy with the drama and you don't care and maybe you want to fuck his friends go for gold and this is what you had to say well it's also last thing is because i was also from a really small town and i know that if i went on an online dating app in my town every single person to know about including every ex I've ever had including my future exes everyone's going to know about it so this is the aftermath thanks ladies for answering my question so I didn't take your advice at all which we love yes queen go off I went on hinge and let's just say the drought is over look if things were more amicable in our separation and he wasn't being such a nasty
Starting point is 00:45:07 man and he respected me possibly maybe I would have waited I was sick of letting him rule my life though and I needed a little bit of fun and you know what I love that there has been no bad fallout from this you got what you needed he's cranky but he was cranky anyway and he can get over it go off queen I and we like to hear when you didn't take our advice because I think we were like do you need the drama wait a little while go on a holiday but you were like no I fucked in my small town and I'm having a great time it's one of those and I see that guy on the weekend and then at the service station and then the shops and you know what I don't even care about it there's one of those questions where you write in just hoping that they say what you want
Starting point is 00:45:44 to say but you were always going to do it anyway like you were always going to go and it's great good on you you know what thinking about it now as well like our advice it was too much admin like no one's gonna do that if I'm living in a small town I'm not organizing a getaway on the weekend to go and like have sex with random people and sit I'm just not doing it I did it did you Yeah. Where'd you go? That's only because my radius ran out of Sydney. Where did you go?
Starting point is 00:46:05 I had to go to your – Well, anywhere. 60 countries, Laura. I did what I had to do. I was a woman on a mission. What did you – nah. Sydney's pretty big. You've always got someone coming through.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Don't rub it in, mate. Yeah, Sydney was big and my radius ran out. So did mine. So did mine when I was online dating. You would always say there's no one left in your area. I was like, I live in the most populated city in Australia. What do you mean? Once you hit that, you're like, oh, okay, I'll go 18 to 60.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Increases age range, increases kilometre. That's how I ended up having sex with a 70-year-old. We'll leave it with that. No, I'm joking. And that's who you guys know as Grampy. No, that is a joke. I have never – what's been my oldest? 45 when I was 30.
Starting point is 00:46:48 No, 43. 43. 43. And how old were you? Because, like, right now that's only a tiny bit different. Oh, yeah. I think I would have done slightly more of an age gap than that, but not by much.
Starting point is 00:47:02 28. 18. It was my 18th birthday. All right, guys, that's enough from us. If you haven't asked Uncut Aftermath for us, send them on in. We want to know what has happened in your life. We need the updates. If there's been an update to the update, send them in.
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