Life Uncut - ASK UNCUT - How much eye contact during s*x is too much?

Episode Date: September 13, 2023

Hey Lifers, If you're looking for some travel tips, DO NOT go to Brittany Hockley. This one should be a sweet reminder that if it seems too good to be true, it probably is...Yes, she did recommend a 'points' app a few weeks ago and it would seem like she might need to refresh it! GET TICKETS TO OUR LIVE SHOW HERE  In today's episode we announced that the wonderful Rebel Wilson will be joining our show in Sydney, Ellidy Pullin and Em Carey are going to join our Gold Coast show and the other shows will be announced soon! Vibes for the week:Britt:  The Trial of Lucy Letby Laura: Jessie Stephen's latest book Something Bad Is Going To Happen Keeshia: Skincare School Then we get into your questions! I’ve been in a relationship and living with my partner for about 3.5years now. When it comes time to have any deeper conversations he consistently shuts down,  whether this be about our relationship or discussing deeper topics of interest like politics, unpacking childhoods, relationships with parents, misogyny, the patriarchy, racism, religion etc. He will always listen and he is happy for me to say what’s on my mind however he never knows how to respond or how to add to the conversation other than to say nothing or make a senseless immature joke. I really struggle in these moments as it makes me feel really alone. Like I am giving a lecture to someone or having a conversation with myself. I don’t know what is the “normal,” amount of “deeper” conversation that most men typically engage in and for how long, or for how often? I am at a bit of a loss as to what to do, or if I am being unreasonable in asking for too much?  Eyes closed or eyes open during sex? My partner will wake up first thing in the morning and check his phone in bed while he’s next to me and reply to work emails and messages he’s missed overnight. Whereas I’m the type of person who likes to wake up and not go on my phone straight away. He will also often talk to me while on his phone and therefore not fully hear what I’m telling him. It really irks me as I like to have more boundaries around technology. I know I can’t and shouldn’t tell him what to do but I’m also struggling on my end because of it. What can I do? We had a really great conversation with Johann Hari about how we can be so distracted by technology that you can listen to! If you have an question please send it on it to life uncut podcast on Instagram hereJoin us on tiktok Or join the facebook group here Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! xxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands were never ceded. We pay our respects to their elders past and present. Always was, always will be Aboriginal land. Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. And I'm Brittany and I am coming to you today from the other side of the world with my head stuffed inside Ben's closet. Well, at least it's not stuffed inside Ben. Let me clarify that.

That makes me sound like I've been kidnapped and I'm like locked in the closet. I'm not locked in a closet, to be clear. But I'm in a makeshift recording studio, which is literally inside Ben's closet. So it has like nice soft soundproofing and all his jackets buffer. And I was just like, wow, look how far I've come.

That's what I was thinking. I would rather have my head stuffed inside a wardrobe if it meant that I got to spend four days in Mallorca. So I don't feel sorry for you right now. I am back in Scotland now I went to Mallorca we had three days in Mallorca it was amazing I flew over four days ago to see Ben it's our what is it every eight weeks we get to bang for a week but the funniest thing happened to me now I feel like this is probably everyone's lifelong dream but I have had a lifelong dream my entire life that I thought would never ever

happen it's so far out of reach okay and now I'm trying to think of what it could possibly be you saw Sam Heughan at the airport no you mounted Sam Heughan's face um no I said you climbed Sam Heughan like a mountain it just has to have something to do with Sam Heughan that's all I know I hope Sam Heughan never listens to this we have tried to get him on the podcast so that would be embarrassing if he comes on no it'd be about also just so that everyone knows like because you may not be aware of this like Sam Heughan is the equivalent to my Jason Momoa he was my hall pass he is the man that britney has wanted to climb since she was a wee little lass he was my hall pass but he's not anymore because i am in a great relationship and sam shut up

everyone still has a hall pass i'm just saying it in case he comes on the podcast one day he's never coming on the podcast brit he's frightened of you no you know he said he would i spoke to him did i tell you that in direct message yeah we spoke and he was like i'm launching some a book and some alcohol and heaps of shit because he's like an entrepreneur now as well as an actor but He was like, maybe like when we launched that, we could do it. This is just a little insight into the lengths that Brittany Hockley will go. You would have slid into his DMs. There is no one I won't slide into if I want them on the podcast.

I go high and low. I slid into Michelle Obama's, the daughter of Sasha Obama's. Now that's a lie, but I'll do what I need to do. We aim high and we fall slightly short of that. So I, okay, I don't even know how to start this story. Okay, fuck it. I'll tell you. I flew first class.

For the first time in my life, probably the only time in my life. Now I need to tell you why and how. So Ben and I, we see each other every few months, as you guys know. If you're new to the podcast, I'm in a long-distance relationship. Ben lives in Scotland. So I'm the one that flies the most, right, because Ben only flies once a year. So I'm flying six times a year. It's really expensive.

So Ben and I always, we split everything. Even though he's only doing one flight, he still helps me pay for the flights because it's not fair otherwise, right? And it's just the agreement we've done. anyway so this flight over I only booked it three days before I left which meant the flights it was really hard to get flight times and I had to fly a mix of economy and premium economy so whatever leg I could get so I had premium economy and economy Ben had let me sign into his frequent flyer points because we'd used mine the last flight so he's like oh use some of mine it might

get a bit off the price or whatever so I get to the flight and they're like oh man you've you've upgraded and I was like oh amazing like this is incredible and I was like oh my god I was like what the fuck I was like me and she's like yes and I was like that's amazing why yeah anyway so they I was like this is my dreams come true because sometimes they do these random upgrades these are the stories of myths and legends you know like you hear about the people that get to the counter and they've gotten a random upgrade there's always like the people who say like if you dress up nicely to get onto a plane like you might be the one who gets upgraded if you rock up wearing a suit yeah but it never happens anyway she's like you've been upgraded first class

fucking beside myself couldn't believe it message shared and straight away i think i was like i can't believe this took so many photos in there like i took so many photos of the food everything i took photos of the menus okay it was the most it was the most lush thing i have ever experienced and i i cannot i cannot explain it to you now it wasn't the big you see pictures right you see pictures of the big beautiful cabins where there's like a lounge room and stuff in there it wasn't that one what it was was like a bed that went down a full big tv like huge tv and closing doors for complete privacy like there were electronic doors the menu was I'm not exaggerating the menu was caviar lobster tail I ate so much food and I wasn't even hungry I was like I have some more lobster

like I was living like it was my last day on earth they were like ma'am do you want a shower I was like yes I don't need a shower but I'm gonna have one I'm gonna have fucking two showers thank you do you want to see the show yeah exactly I was like book me in she's like do you need the spa and I was like yeah I need it it was so fancy Laura I even took a photo in the bathroom I couldn't find the toilet it doesn't make sense that these things exist on a plane whereas like no there I am shoved at the back with my two screaming kids next to the toilet wanting to open the emergency exit yeah so anyway I'm like oh is this the toilet because even the door's fancy and she's like yeah so I go in and there's a shower there's a huge room there's makeup room

there's hair dryers and I can't see a toilet and so I'm like she must have misunderstood me so I went back out and she's standing there like ready they're always there when you leave they're ready with because I go in after every person and I was like oh sorry is this the bathroom in here and she's like yes and I was like oh okay I walked back in and I just stood there I was like where the fuck is the toilet the toilet is like a chameleon it's hidden you can't even see it to the point that i took a video i was like tell me when you spot the toilet i eventually found it the lady walks in and there's britney doing a shit in the sink no so it was to the point that i was like i thought there were hidden doors so i was like

poking along the wall thinking that one of the doors would pop out but it wasn't there was a little anyone that's flown first class that's listening to this is going to be like britney satchel either no one yeah no one literally no one so there was like a little like it runs it's all curved and everything it's not even square like all the walls are curved and it was like this curvy little seat and i was like i wonder if that is something and i lifted it up and it was like a surprise toilet anyway i found the toilet crisis averted so i booked into my shower i did everything it was incredible wait did you find out why you got upgraded was there a reason or did you just win the lucky dip no I'm getting there so then I get to Scotland

and I sent Ben a photo I haven't seen him yet I just got off the plane and I sent him a photo and I'm like guess who's a first class bish and he's like oh my god what happened and I was like random upgrade I was like it's so weird he's like oh they don't usually random upgrade you from like economy and I was like I don't know babe but I was like full flight I hit the jackpot Anyway, so it turns out Ben was like a bit perplexed. He was like, just doesn't sound right. It turns out, so Ben had given me his frequent flyer points, right? And when I had put them in for my flight to get a discount,

there was a little button that said, do you want to put in for an automatic upgrade if it's available? So I said, yes. i thought that i thought that that meant they would ask me i thought they meant that that would be like ma'am there's a spot for an upgrade do you want to take it but it doesn't it is automatic so i ticked yes it wiped all of his points it wasn't a random upgrade ben paid every point he's ever got he logged on to his thing and he's like i have no fucking points left and i was like oh my god he's like what did you do i was like i think i pressed the automatic upgrade button

that is not funny that is terrible that is that is you're a fucking bad girlfriend you are a bad girlfriend i know he actually he knew that there's no way i would ever do that and i was like i thought it meant that they'd be like oh man we saw that you would like to bid for an upgrade or whatever i thought they would ask you like approach you but they literally just said man you've been upgraded and i was like fucking brilliant they're playing god's help me anyway lucky ben saw the funny side I would also like to this can be that everyone's like wonderful reminder that the mythical magical automatic upgrade that people sometimes talk about doesn't happen it's not real anyway that was my the it was the funniest thing that happened and Ben still loves me so I'm here

for another two weeks okay well we just so you guys know we have this episode and then we're taking a week off because I'm heading away to Bali on the weekend for some work I've got some Tony May work happening over there I'm going with my sister I'm going with one of my staff from Tony May and no kids for an entire week and no Matt as well, which I was really excited. And then yesterday I got really sad. So I don't know how I feel about it anymore. It's an emotional rollercoaster. Is this the longest you've been away from the kids? Like, will this be? Yeah. Seven days. This will be the longest I've been away without Matt and the kids. We've been away before you and I and Keisha, we went to Uluru earlier this year. That was for three or four

nights. That was the longest. And now this will be the longest stint that I've done. And also it's the only international stint that I've ever done without the kids I mean I don't know because I don't have kids but I feel like you're gonna miss them the most like the first few days and then I think you're gonna ease in just fine I think I think you're gonna be cocktail in hand can I tell you where I'm not gonna miss them on the flight when I get to sleep for an entire five hours all by myself in economy oh I mean this is cute Matt we were talking about last night and he was like why don't you just pack some kids books like pack like four or five kids books in your suitcase and so then at nighttime on FaceTime you can read the girls to sleep so that's what I'm gonna do

I'm gonna I'm gonna take books with me and then I can sit there on FaceTime and I can read their bedtime stories to them every night and we can FaceTime and spend you know at least like even though I'm not gonna see them for the next seven days I can spend that little bit of time and that can be the little tradition I don't know we're doing our best we're surviving over here I think that's cute but also I feel like you're gonna be like bad reception but really you're just at like finn's beach spot spot goes for a swim in the pool to finn's to finn's okay well guys we wanted to before we get into answering all your deep your dark and your burning questions we have some really exciting stuff to tell you about the live shows so we i mean for quite a while now we've had

some of our guests locked in but we've just started announcing them and what we're doing with these live shows if you haven't got your tickets yet they're going to be phenomenal i know that we've already told you that Sam Fisher is going to be playing and singing at every single show. That's like one consistent thing that's happening at each show. For those of you who don't know who he is, this is Sam Fisher's song. The city's going to break my heart The city's going to love me then leave me alone

The city's got me chasing stars It's been a couple of months since I felt like I'm home Am I getting closer to knowing where I belong? But then we've also just announced, so if you live in the Gold Coast and you have been thinking, should I go to the Gold Coast show? Maybe I'm busy on the Wednesday night. I think it's the Wednesday, the 25th of October. Have a look, go get your tickets because the people that are joining us on stage there, we have Elodie Pullen, which so many of you guys know she is from the Darling Shine podcast. She's also written the book Heartstrong. So Elodie is the partner of

Chumpy Pullen who passed away tragically in 2020. And she has her beautiful little girl Minnie. They had this baby together, but his sperm was actually collected after he passed away. We have had Elodie on the podcast before. She's incredible. And the story is amazing, but also just her as an incredibly resilient human in her normalizing grief, in her talking about her life as a single mum and how her life has changed since having Minnie. She lives just truly the fullest and most incredible life. And I know you guys are going to love hearing the updates from what we have spoken about on the podcast to where her life is now at that live show. Yeah, Elodie is truly amazing. And I think the thing I love about Elodie the most is I've never quite seen somebody speak

about grief so well and such a traumatic event, but then simultaneously be so full of energy and so positive and so happy and so fucking funny. Like she really has this incredible balancing act of being able to speak about something that not many people go through, but making you laugh at the same time. She's got just such a great outlook on life and such a great sense of humor that she really is the epitome of both. Well, it's almost that idea of like a lot of people deal with hardship through laughter. On one side, and I remember her talking about this, on one side, she's like, we can be completely in tears and bereft over everything that happened. And then the next minute making jokes because it's one of those, you know, if you don't laugh, you'll cry

for the rest of your life situations. Also joining us at the Gold Coast show, another announcement which we made is the incredible Em Carey, who is the girl who fell from the sky. So Em joined us in Sydney last year. She was one of the absolute highlights of the Sydney show. It was incredible to speak to her. We've had her also on the podcast before, but what we spoke about at the live show in Sydney was a very different conversation. And it was more so around her life since the last time we spoke. And so even if you have followed along Em's journey, and even if you have listened to the podcast episodes, we can guarantee that you will get something very, very different out of these conversations. And so they're the guests that are coming to the Gold Coast Live Show.

Now, like you guys know, we have six other shows within Australia, and then we also have New Zealand as well. So every single show is going to have different guests, but we just wanted to give you a little taste of how fucking good it's going to be. We do have different guests every single place. We have one to two guests, probably two at almost every single one, but finding people at different shows that are there in different cities was so much fun. We have a very big guest that happened to last minute be free in Sydney and that is Rebel Wilson. So you know that Rebel is a friend of the podcast. She's a friend of mine. She's been on the podcast a few times and she just so happens to be in sydney filming over that period so she has agreed to come on as a very

very special guest in the sydney show so that's also going to be incredible we're going to speak to rebel about a lot of stuff in her life that we didn't speak about on the episodes because i feel like her life is also ever evolving so i'm really really looking forward to that chat as well and over the next week or so we are going to be dropping a few more guests yeah and also like i know we've talked about this so much but the live shows are going to be such an extravaganza we don't want anyone to leave these shows unless they're like that was phenomenal that's the benchmark so you know we've set it high we are going to try our absolute best we have some really really funny stories that we haven't told on the podcast before and we have everyone coming

Keisha's going to be there Mitch is going to be there Maddie J is going to be there for most of them when we can get babysitters for the kids so like it's truly such an all team and amazing thing that we get to do where we get to come to your hometowns if you're in Sydney just so you know the Sydney one is happening at the State Theatre on October the 15th but we're also going to Adelaide we're going to Perth we're going to Melbourne we're going to be in Auckland and Canberra and Brisbane so it is truly all across Australia throughout the month of October go get your tickets get your girlfriends get your boyfriends yeah get everyone get your mum get your dad if you think that that might be oh my god my mum and dad are coming and my uncles and aunties and stuff

and I'm mortified because some shit that we're going to be talking about that they may or may not want to hear but my dad is like my dad is my our biggest fan from the day we started this four years ago in our undies in our room you had marley may strapped to your titty like we were recording i was recording my scrub still he is not ever miss an episode so he hears it all anyway but this will be the first time that they'll be there like in rl watching this go down i don't know how i feel about it i also love that like the difference between your dad papa tony and terry burn terry burn thinks it's called a pod book and he doesn't know what a pod book is and we are gonna keep it that way because terry burn never needs to know the things that his

daughter talks about on this podcast no terry burn absolutely does not but also just so you guys know we don't want you to think that these hot shows are completely interviews with guests whilst we have guests at each show they make up the second half and the interview portion we're trying to keep it very much in line with how we bring you our episodes which is laura and i at the start which is the accidentally unfiltered the embarrassing stories the shit we do the girl talk like you're just talking to your friends that's all going to be exactly the same it's just a lot of fun at the start a lot of throwing each other and ourselves under the bus and then the second half is where we really get into the interviews and the guest part and hopefully teaching you

something from each person that comes to talk to us on the stage so we're really really looking forward to it if you haven't got your tickets for live shows they are available on our website but it's all through that Ticketek and Ticketmaster so if you go to lifeuncutpodcast.com.au there's a link on the home page for tickets and it will take you through to whichever ticket retailer is kind of taking care of your city all right before we get into your questions it is time for vibe and unsubscribe Brittany Hockley what is your vibe of the week my vibe this week may or may not be a hot take because it's been number one on the podcast charts in Australia and the UK probably America for quite a while. And it's the trial of Lucy Letby. Now I'm sure if you haven't listened to

the podcast, you've heard about this at the moment because it's happening live. She's just been convicted. It's about Lucy Letby, this 33 year old nurse that was just found guilty of murdering seven babies in the neonatal care unit over in the UK. Absolutely horrific. I hadn't, I mean, obviously I've heard about the story, but I didn't know that there was a podcast about it. yeah you know i love true crime but this isn't why i was enthralled in this i was enthralled because it started back in 2022 i believe and it was live not many podcasts are allowed to report at the same time as the trial is happening but this one was and we know the reasons in the past it hasn't happened i think it happened here with the teacher's pet when journalists are reporting

simultaneously it can interrupt the trial but this was reported on every single week as the trial was going these journalists were going into the trial watching it reporting on them and interviewing a lot of different people along the way I was just truly fascinated by this case because I just never in a million years would you think that somebody that went and studied to specifically care for these babies and give them the best possible outcome of life would end up being one of the UK's biggest serial killers because she was murdering them I binged it 62 episodes and I think I listened to it in about four days I couldn't put it down because I couldn't understand why and they read a lot of text messages out between her and other staff members they have

people impersonating her and other staff members so like reading out in her voice it's fucking horrific and she's gone to prison she's been convicted and I mean so she should she should rot in there but it's my recommendation I don't have kids so I don't know how it will affect mothers to listen that the people that have kids might not want to listen to that but I also worked at a specialist pediatric hospital in the UK so I knew a lot of the things they were talking about I knew the hospitals they're referring to so for me maybe I had an added interest in it because of that I'm not sure but it's my vibe for this week I think like one of the things that was so almost like I mean it's so unbelievable about that story usually think about serial killers and you think

about them that their reason for doing something is because they lack feeling and then you think about this woman and the reason why or one of the motivating factors as to why she was doing this like horrendous incomprehensible thing was because she wanted the validation and for people to feel sorry for her and to give her sympathy or to be a hero almost it's so sick and the psychological part of it and the psychological motivation to what she did I think is very interesting interesting is probably not the right word but it is it's like how does someone ever get to that point like what is going on in that person's brain and it's just absolutely frightening also just hearing how she hand like the things that she did later on like she would write a

letter to a family like she would she had murdered their child and then a year later she'd written like a letter to them and written cards to them and she would sporadically search their names and news articles like proper proper sick she would keep mementos almost from those kids time and the family's time in hospital and it's crazy but she was eventually found out and brought to justice and anyway we don't need to talk about it anymore but it's a big one it's a hard one but if you are looking for another podcast as i said there's 60 episodes so you really do get stuck in there all right my recommendation for the week is by jesse stevens it is the new book that she's written that's just come out you guys know who jesse stevens is we've had her on the podcast

before, she is part of Mamma Mia Out Loud. She's like one third of Mamma Mia Out Loud, but she also did an interview with us not so long ago around vaginismus, which was so interesting. But Jessie, she wrote a new book. It is called Something Bad Is Going To Happen. Now we recommended years ago HeartSick, which was Jessie's first book. It was phenomenal. It was all around the universal feeling of pain that we go through when we go through heartbreak and how heartbreak is essentially the same for everyone but how when you experience it it is so unique for yourself you often think nobody else has ever been this heartbroken nobody else could possibly have felt this much pain because it seems insurmountable when you're going through it I adored her first book it was so well

written and I think that there were so many parts about it that even you and I when we were reading it and comparing our kind of war stories around heartbreak there were so many bits in that that we found so relatable she's a brilliant writer it's like speaking to your own experience but from a third lens this book I have only just started it so I'm recommending something that was recommended to me that I'm only a couple of chapters into but I love the way that Jessie Stevens writes and just to give you an overview of what the book is about so Adele is the main character she's in her late 20s and the book starts with her in a psychiatric hospital and it touches on conversations around depression it touches on conversations around anxiety

and kind of this not coming of age because obviously not everybody experiences these things but this idea that maybe your life isn't where or what you expected it to be and I think the thing that's really interesting about this is that it starts when the book actually starts it is a new year so it's just come off the back of new years and we've spoken about this like milestone anxiety a lot on the podcast before this feeling that especially when you kind of come through a new year it marks for a lot of people a benchmark as to whether you've leveled up in life against the things that you've set for yourself in the previous year whether you made those new year's resolutions or whether you have succeeded in whatever the arbitrary benchmark was that you

placed for yourself and I just like I said I love the way that Jessie writes and I am two chapters in it's brilliant so far it's very early days to give a recommendation this is an early record I am going to finish the book while I'm away in Bali and then I'll come back and tell you guys exactly what I think of it. Whilst it's an early record I think you can probably pretty safely say you know the rest of it's going to be great because she's just a banger. Yeah okay and producer Keisha she has to come and jump into I'm literally sitting just so you know I'm sitting in producer Keisha's bedroom because I couldn't record from home this morning because the kids were absolutely feral. I'm sitting on her little desk and I have a pillow stuffed against the walls

with socks on our microphones. We've got socks back on the microphone and I covered in dog hair. Okay. My recommendation for this week is actually a podcast that's done by Adore Beauty. And for transparency, I had a little bit to do with the editing of one season of this, but I'm actually going to recommend the other season that I didn't have anything to do with. It's called Skincare School and it's done by Dr. Michelle Wong, who you might know on Instagram as Lab Muffin Beauty Science. She is a cosmetic chemist. We often talk about skincare, what we're using and what's working for us. I know you guys are on the SkinCeuticals train. Yeah, it's so good. Which I'm very jealous of so this podcast isn't necessarily about like a particular product

it's more about I guess you would say the science behind how different skincare things work and they've got episodes on like what vitamin A is or retinol and how it actually works they go through things like hyperpigmentation sun damage melasma like there's all these different episodes so I guess you can pick and choose for whichever thing you are concerned about at the time or maybe you just want to learn a little bit more about I was speaking about this with a friend throughout the week and that's kind of why it was top of mind for me because we were talking about the order that you can use products in and how you can or cannot use certain things at the same time because they can interact with each other and another thing that I really loved that I learned

from this podcast was what to spend money on and what I was able to kind of save money on with my skincare so they do have product recommendations but it's also about like the type of product why certain actives like degrade over time why you'll have them in certain colored glass bottles and you need to store them in a cupboard to make them last longer and I'm a bit of like a science geek but I really loved this and I also think that if you're investing money that you work really hard for in skincare you might as well know how it works why it works and how you're best going to spend that money skincare school you can get it wherever you listen to your podcast that's my recommendation for the week. And your skin is great too. So do what Keisha says. Thank you.

I mean, I was on Roacazine for nine months last year, so I've been through a skincare journey, but now it's looking fresh. Well, I love that. Well, let's get into the questions. Question number one, I've been in a relationship and living with my partner for 3.5 years now, three and a half. He's so fun, loving, generous, accepting of me and so affectionate with words and affirmation. There is so much that I love about our relationship. However, when it comes to having any sort of deeper conversation, he consistently shuts down, no matter the topic, whether this be about our relationship or discussing a deeper topic of interest, for example, politics, unpacking childhoods, relationships with parents, misogyny, the patriarchy, racism,

religion. He will always listen and is happy for me to say what's on my mind. However, he never knows how to respond or how to add to the conversation other than to say nothing or to sometimes make a senseless immature joke. I really struggle in these moments as it makes me feel really alone. Like I'm giving a lecture to someone or having a conversation with myself. I don't know what is normal or what is a normal amount of deeper conversation that most men typically engage in for how long or for how often. I am so easily able to have these types of conversations with all my female friends and I'm at a bit of a loss what to do. Also, it's her first real relationship and she says that she sees him as a potential life partner.

However, I feel it is important to be able to communicate well and hold deeper conversations. Thoughts? I don't think you're going to like what I have to say. It is really important to be able to communicate with your partner and have conversations if that's what's important to you and it is what's important to you. It sounds like the things that you're interested in,

the patriarchy, misogyny, childhoods, politics, they're not everyone's cup of tea and it sounds like it's not your partner's cup of tea, which is totally fine. His interests obviously lie elsewhere. Does that mean it's the end of the relationship? Of course not. Not if you're happy to not be having these deep conversations, but I don't think you can force someone to have a conversation about something that they're genuinely not interested in. Also sounds like he's not being rude and he's listening. He's just doesn't seem like he knows how to contribute on the level you are. Maybe it's just about

interests or maybe there's an intellectual difference there as well, which can definitely be a problem in some relationships. Yeah. I think it's a tricky one because like, I have two different feelings about this. Like, would I be able to be in a relationship with someone who I felt like I couldn't connect with on a deeper level? No. I think it's really important to be able to find some topics that you can relate to on a deeper level. And now it's not to say that he doesn't have necessarily an interest in it at all, but it may be that he doesn't have the emotional IQ to be able to hold a deeper conversation maybe his parents never modeled that maybe they didn't have those types of conversations as far as he was ever privy to

maybe they never had those types of conversations with him and so like he maybe has gotten through life thinking that his surface level style of conversation is deep and I think like I've dated men in the past where they would have thought that we had a deep connection and in my mind I was like I feel like you don't even know me like I feel like I haven't even gotten to the crux of the things that I love or who I am as a person but yet you think that what we have is deep and I think it's because other people have different levels of expectations when it comes to this stuff right the only thing I want to say is like one you need to decide how important it is to you to be able to have the types of conversations that you have with your girlfriends with him

because if you think guess what that's being satiated in another area like you know because sometimes we can expect our partners to be everything and we've spoken about this before on the podcast we expect them to be able to have deep conversations to treat us with beautiful affection to love us to you know be that pillar of support and also to provide some sort of spiritual relief along with everything else that a relationship does but it's not possible for one person to give you everything so I guess you can make that decision okay well maybe that part of is going to be satisfied by your friends, the people who you can have those conversations with. And he's great for all the other reasons that you love him and are in love with him. But I do think

that for me, I would struggle not being able to have a relationship with someone where they weren't even trying to get down onto a deeper level. And when we say like topics like misogyny, the patriarchy, or whatever it is that you're talking about, she also had things in there like her childhood like talking about the past and sometimes I think being able to open up and share the complexities around maybe you had a challenging childhood maybe there's been trauma maybe you've been through a bad breakup whatever it is those conversations are what allow you to actually get a little bit deeper with your partner and feel like you're connected with them those vulnerabilities it sounds like he struggles with getting vulnerable well there I think there are two

different layers here for me it's one thing that he doesn't have the interest you have and doesn't want to discuss politics or religion or racism but it's another thing if he also doesn't want to show an interest in you they're two separate things I feel like it's okay to show and if he's showing an interest in you and your childhood and everything else and you still feel like you're getting that from him it's okay to have different interests outside of that and maybe you're having these deeper more intellectual conversations with friends or people that share the interest that you do I wouldn't be breaking up with someone because I'm trying to have a political conversation and they don't want a part of it. But there has to be a meet halfway. Because sometimes you do want

to nut out something. It might be something that's happening in the news, some viral news at the moment. It might be Trump going to prison and being impeached. It might be whatever it is. You can have a conversation about that that's on a surface level. It doesn't have to be deep, but it's still going back and forth. Well, yeah. And I think the other part of this is, I mean, this is the first big relationship that this person's ever had. There may come a point where you don't feel intellectually challenged in your relationship, where you don't feel like you are stimulated by it because, you know, for a lot of people, once the physical side is not as strong, maybe, you know, maybe the honeymoon phase is over, whatever it is, you've been together for

three and a half years, but like that side of things can wane. What is left if you're not physically stimulated or if you don't have, you know, I'm sure they have so much fun and the comedy or whatever else is there that kind of supplements it. But I do think you have to be able to be vulnerable and to get down on that deeper level with your partners like I think it's so important to most people and there might come a point where you're like we haven't been able to progress because he doesn't have the ability to and maybe he doesn't have the ability because like we said he's not emotionally intelligent enough or he's not at the same level as you are when it comes to your sort of EQ but also your IQ I also think it's okay to tell

him that I also think it's okay to say hey I feel like we're lacking in having these conversations like like how do you feel about this when i talk to you and you you listen so well are you checking out internally because this is bores you more than anything in the world or is it because you don't understand the topic because there's a lot of lack of education in a lot of things that happening in the world depends on what you do day to day because you're not motivated to find out well yeah there's a difference with being a builder right and you're on a job site all day you're not scrolling the internet you're not keeping up to date with the news you're you've got that physical job that you're talking with people all day then there's another whole world

if your job is online and it's content and you're available to what's happening in the world it's different because you feel like you're more connected to those world events it could be a lack of education thing i think i'd have the conversation with him i wouldn't be breaking up with him but i wouldn't be settling if i'm an unhappy do you know i think the only thing though that would be my red flag like beyond beyond like feeling like everything is surface level which i think is a red flag in itself but my big red flag wouldn't so much just be that he's not interested or he's not able to hold the conversation, does he seem to have conflicting views? Like, you know, when you say you bring up quite deep or challenging topics and you feel like he doesn't have the

ability to respond, does he hold space for your side of the conversation? Is he interested in it at all? Does he challenge you because he has alternate views? I think like that's where things can become more problematic when you don't have the same ideology around these sorts of things. But if it's a lack of ability or a lack of interest, I think that that's going to come down to like long-term, you may just be not suited to each other when it comes to your emotional IQ. Okay. This is a random question. Very funny. I think I'm a bit of A, bit of B. Ladies, eye contact, eyes open or eyes closed during sex? I'm very much open. I like eye contact and eye candy, but all my friends have said hands down, eyes closed. And now I feel

like a psycho. What are your thoughts? I mean, have you got your eyes open for the whole thing? like from war to go it seems like are you blinking i don't think she's blinking no okay what are you i don't want to go first why i'm both i'm bit of a bit of b but do you close your eyes at the start and then during climax you hold on to each other's faces and stare into each other's eyes i don't think about it but i think like i'm not like okay it's chapter one i am entering with my eyes open you're doing dogging and turning around trying to make eye contact it's like what my dog does a shit and she looks over her shoulder at me like no i i'm both i don't think it matters i don't like excessive prolonged eye contact i do not like that it gets

a bit weird for me like people that want to look into my eyes for 20 minutes i'm like stop it like that makes me that's a real that's a real eye contact person he's a real is that too much information have a cross about it because i'm just thinking of someone staring at me for 20 minutes in sex he that loves a bit of eye contact i'm i'm eye contact avoidant eye contact makes me feel weird like I'm being what are you doing when Matt's looking at you oh like I'll do eye contact but I'm not I just find it's too much but he's looking at you where what are you doing I close my eyes I just picture your eyes going all goggly like all over the place like rolling around in circles I just can't it's just too much I feel like it's

too intense eye contact for prolonged periods of time throughout sex just I don't want to giggle I think you've got to pick the peak moment. Like a bit of eye contact can be sexy and hot and make you feel confident but too much makes you feel vulnerable and too open. I'm like the lights are on, the eyes are open, there's too much going on here. Okay, what about eye contact throughout the full duration of orgasming? Like right when they're coming to climax, staring intently into your eyes.

It's a lot. Again, I don't take notes so I'm not sure that I can say exactly I feel like if you've experienced it, you would know that it's happening. I would do both. I would do both. I think it just depends on where you are. What's the position? Is it nighttime?

Are the lights on? There's heaps of things, but I don't think it's weird to have a little bit of it. Oh, no, I definitely don't think. I think staggered eye contact throughout the duration of intercourse is necessary. Do I think from woe to go eye contact is necessary? No, it's a little bit overbearing. Okay, if I had to answer, like, am I more open or more closed? I would say I'm more closed.

Okay. If I'm trying to work out like if it was a 50-50 pendulum. I would say. You'd be closed for sure. My eyes are closed but often they open. I'm just looking elsewhere. Laura's got one eye. I'm like 50%.

I don't know. I don't want anyone to listen to this and think that I don't like eye contact. I mean, God forbid that anyone leaves this podcast with the wrong impression of me. I do but I just don't like too much of it because it makes me feel weird. Do you make eye contact when it's pinky and stinky? No. I haven't had a finger in my ass in ages.

It's not the same after. No, when you're doing it. No, Matt would never let me stick my finger in his ass. Oh, my God, never. I keep telling him he's going to enjoy it and he's like, I will not. It will not happen. I'm telling you, you will love it.

Seven years of our relationship and all I want to do is put a finger in his bum and he won't let me. No, I will definitely not just do it. That goes against everything we preach. I didn't say that. You almost did. I stopped myself because consent is important. No, he said he doesn't like it and he's tried it before.

I was like, we haven't tried it with my finger. And he said, they're all the same. I said, my finger might be different. Anyway, these are the conversations we have. Have I just brought you too far into our world? Talking about having those deep conversations with your partner. We do it whilst we make eye contact with each other. Just like me.

Oh my God, I can't. Look, at the end of the day, there's no right or wrong. Do what feels right. There's no right or wrong, but gauge what the other person's doing. If they're not making eye contact back and you're trying to stare at them, it might be too much. They might not enjoy it. But I do think there's something very sexy and intense about eye contact right

when you're orgasming. I think another thing to think about is what noise is going on at this time? Because it's one thing to be making eye contact, but if someone's really noisy and going for it, it's pretty off-putting if they're staring at you and squealing. Do it to me right now. Make eye contact with me and give me your sex noise. I don't have a sex noise.

That's a lie. You're silent throughout all of sex. That's not it. But if someone's making noise and looking at you, that's weird. I think the eye-open contact has to be pretty silent. Do you reckon? Yeah, or like quite low decibel. I think I'm pretty silent as it is.

I'm just like a low moan. Anyway, this is a lot. Let's get into question number five. I don't think we answered anything. What a question that was. Okay, question number three. My partner will wake up first thing in the morning and check his phone in bed, guilty while he's next to me and reply to work emails and messages he's missed overnight whereas

I'm the type of person who likes to wake up not go on my phone straight away and he will also often talk to me while he's on his phone and therefore not fully hear what I'm saying to him that's really annoying we all do that he wakes up and goes straight into work mode and it really irks me as I like to have boundaries around technology I know I can't and shouldn't tell him what to do but i'm also struggling on my end because of it what can i do i think you can have boundaries and tell them what to do no i don't no phones in bed i don't think you can tell them that but i think you can have a conversation that it makes you unhappy and maybe dedicate 10 minutes to you first you can have a convo but i don't think you can be like this is the rule because it's both of

your beds it's not just unless it is just your bed he's over there but i'm bad for this i'm really bad for i wake up in the morning and i literally open my eyes roll over and pick up my phone within five seconds but I feel like that's mainly because I know I'm on a real time limit to talk to Ben because I'm in this long distance relationship when I wake up it's really late at night for him so I know he's going to bed so the second I roll over I wake up and I basically call him yeah that's different you're literally waking up to answer your phone to make contact with your partner exactly the thing is is most people in relationships are lying in bed next to each other and then they roll over the opposite direction to their partner they roll away from

their partner they pick up their phone and then instantly there's this barrier between them because their whole cognitive ability is distracted by that little screen again I don't think checking your phone is the end of the world if you can check it and then roll back over and give your partner the attention they need like if you have a business that is run on international hours if you're doing banking trading whatever it is that things are happening for your business overnight then you probably have to wake up and check that and make sure everything's in order but then you've got to be able to roll back over and give your partner some attention you 100% can say yo every single morning you make me feel pretty shitty because you I feel like you don't even care I'm

there I feel like you're not listening to me you can 100% say that it's very dependent on what he's checking if he's rolling over and he's on tiktok and you're like I'm naked in bed wanting some attention and he'd rather scroll tiktok tiktok it's the problem I don't know I think that there yes you can't make your partner do something that they don't want to do right like you can obviously tell them how you feel about it but i do think you can have boundaries when it comes to bed like no phones in bed if that's something that's making you so upset like it's something that's really an issue for you that it means that if he wants to then use his phone put it on charge on the other side of the room so at least when he wakes up the first thing he does is roll over and

give you a kiss and then he has to physically get up out of bed or if he wants to check his phone leaves it could be worse he's like i'm up now because i'm gonna get up to get my phone which might actually be what happens but at least then you know it's easier to kind of explain to him the barrier that that creates for you but I think so many of us are guilty of doing I know I do it with Matt like phones have been created we did a really great episode with Johan Hari last year it was called this one's for the scatterbrains and I will put the episode in the show notes that you can go back and listen to it because it truly was such an amazing chat but Johan Hari was talking about how phones and all of the apps that are on phones are created in order to keep your attention

for as much time as possible and like we live in a world where our attention is constantly being stolen from us and it's so hard to fight against it so like he is a victim of what we all are victims of you know it's the minority of people who have healthy boundaries when it comes to technology I know when I've spoken about it before like it's definitely something that I struggle with it's something that Matt struggles with and I would be interested to hear Brit how you go when you are in Scotland and you are actually in bed next to Ben whether you do roll over and check Instagram or check your emails because it's exactly the same I roll over and I'm straight on my phone because of what I said before people work international hours so when I wake up in

Scotland you guys back here and everyone else that we work with with the radio and whoever have been working in the workday so the first thing I do and I'm doing email straight away while Ben's in bed because there's people I need to reply to and get back to but then I give him my full time like I'm like two I will say to him can you give me five minutes I'm going to smash out some emails and urgent responses and then I'm all yours but I have to roll over and start that work day I would be so interested and maybe it's something that we can poll on social media I would be so interested to know how many people have relationship dissatisfaction at the moment because they feel as though their partner or themselves spends too much time on their phone

I think that the answers to that will be absolutely alarming and I'm just guessing and I may be projecting because it is something that like I said you know we struggle with but I do think that for a lot of people that comes a point where you have to put in boundaries, you have to put in rules. And it's almost like those rules, most people stick to them for a couple of days or a couple of weeks, and then it all just kind of goes back to normal. But I think having no phones in bed is a really good one and a really big one if you want to start to kind of like have a little bit of separation between your relationship and technology and having an iPhone in between the two of you. I reckon the majority of people would say they have a level of dissatisfaction. I would

imagine that's how the poll will come back because of phones and not because of phones because of how easy it is to be distracted because of how easy it is to doom scroll and you know i actually watched this really interesting tiktok the other day and lol that's a fucking irony in itself okay and it was in bed at 7 a.m the other morning and i was watching tiktok i told matt i needed to go to sleep earlier but really i stayed in bed watching tiktoks no that this tiktok was it was a split screen it was pretty juvenile in the way that it was created but it did make you think like it was a split screen around relationships and it was like it's the small things that you do that reinforces feeling loved and validated in a relationship versus feeling like you're you don't

exist like feeling like a ghost and basically the first one was the woman walked through the door and the husband got up and gave her a kiss right it was a heterosexual couple the husband got up and gave her a kiss and in the second one the woman walked through the door and the husband was sitting on the couch on his phone and it was like from the very instant that she got home from work there was a level of dismissiveness and then it was like the same thing going to bed rolling over and giving each other a kiss good night and like you know having that 10 minutes to kind of debrief or whatever it is just before going to sleep rather than scrolling and then turning your back on each other and saying good night you know and putting your phone on charge

again and it's all these little micro actions that we have throughout the day and throughout our interactions with our partners whether we lean in to the relationship or whether we lean away from it by being on technology I watched it and I was like it's so true and so many of us are guilty for it. Last up, I have a work question. Now this one, I have some advice on this because I had a similar situation happens recently with Tony May. All right. When applying for a new job and the salary is a range, for example, $35 an hour up to $52 an hour, and they ask what you expecting when you're at the screening slash interview process, how do you know what price to ask for how much money you should price yourself as what are some tips for self-confidence going

into negotiations when it comes to money and work britney is the negotiator of life uncut oh yeah i negotiate everything i'm the money person britney is the hustler hard i have hustled in our time look my instinct and the first thing i want to say is you'd be going for the top dollar everyone wants to be paid the most for their work and for who they are and for what they bring nobody wants to feel undervalued or underpaid in a job ever it's always tricky when a salary is a range like they're not saying this is what we pay this is what we expect they're saying this is what we can pay I would always go in armed with what you can bring and why you deserve that that's what they want to hear they want to say this is what we've got available but tell us why we need to pay you

the most so you need to go in with a list of your qualifications for that job what you can bring and you need to add in a bit of spice what's your point of difference they're going to see 25 people in this day that are all going to say the same thing I think I should be on $52 an hour because this isn't this bring a bit of personality bring something different show an example look research the company the job that you're going for research their mottos what they're looking for I know that this is the job you've said but I reckon I could add this I think we could pivot somewhere here and go this direction use some initiative the only thing I do want to say is the reason they have these ranges is because people do come with different qualifications

if you've just finished uni and you have no experience and this is your first job you're going to probably go in at the more entry-level wage of 35 to 40 but if you've been in this industry for 20 years you're going to be worth the highest bracket because you've got the experience that someone else doesn't. So you go in confident and know your worth and know what you can bring. If you have on paper in front of them, why you were the perfect person for the job and why there's no crack that they could possibly be filled for you in that position, why you feel every single crack, they can't argue the point. But if you don't have that information, when you go into a job interview, if you cannot sell yourself, they're not going to give you the highest rate.

Yeah, but it's still, it is still hard, right? Because like, I think this does, it's a confidence game massively, but also we don't know what this industry is. It could be an industry where 50, 60 people all have similar qualifications and they've all applied for the job. And of course there's going to be your general vibe to that applicant when you're interviewing them. And I say this from a, as a business owner who has hired multiple people through Tony May, you have a general vibe as to how they're going to fit into the team in terms of culture. Like you get it, you either get a good feeling for people or you're like, oh, maybe they won't be a good culture fit. Now, the thing is, though, you might have multiple people

who seem like a good culture fit. And then you'll have people who ask for different pay brackets, right? And you're exactly right, Brit, like you have to kind of explain as to why you deserve a certain pay bracket. But interestingly, and on the flip side to this, I think that there are so many people who really want to work for a company or really want to work in a position. and so they will devalue what they're asking for because they think that makes them more competitive, right? They're like, okay, I'm not going to ask for $50 an hour. I'm going to ask for $37 an hour, even though they know that they could earn more than that, even though they know that they are deserving or they will be dissatisfied with earning 35 an hour, but they say it because

they're so fearful about missing out on the job, right? And this was an instance that we had recently with someone with Tony May who we hired and I asked them like, what are you looking for? we hadn't put out an amount on the job application. And I was like, what are you looking for in terms of payment for the job? And the amount that she said was like $10,000 less than what we had budgeted for that job that we had expected it to go for. And I had a moment as an employer, and I think that this would come as a surprise. For me, that wasn't a plus. I wasn't like, oh yeah, I'm going to save $10,000 on this person's career. It made me annoyed that she was devaluing herself. It made me think like, oh, do you not have the skills set to do this job?

or have you not done this job before? Because this is what you should be earning almost. And it's kind of like, you want someone in your business who has confidence and who can back themselves and can explain why they back themselves. I think that that's a really admirable trait. And I know there's going to be a lot of businesses who don't have those feelings. I think that's an anomaly. You reckon? Because I- A hundred percent. There are not that many businesses out there now due to the economic crisis, everything. There's not that many businesses out there being like, I'm going

going to throw you an extra 10 grand. If someone comes in and says their sales at that value, I reckon 90% of businesses will say amazing. Yes. But I think the opposite to that is there are a lot of businesses that exploit their employees. There's a lot of businesses that have bad culture. And so if you're not going to get paid what you're worth working for someone, unless it is a situation where you are in dire need of a job, unless it is you're unemployed and you need to just get money and food on the table, that's a different circumstance. but what I'm talking about is if you're changing jobs if you are pivoting careers if you are going through the interview process and you are just really wanting the job because you really want

to work for this company for example if they aggressively will devalue what you are worth and you're willing to devalue yourself because you want to work there you're only going to end up resentful you're only going to end up hating the job because in six months time when you're earning not enough money for doing the work that you know you should be paid for you will fucking hate it so I think you have to pick a number in your head and go in with the confidence and explain why that is the amount that you think you deserve and that you want that's really difficult what you said I'm just thinking I was thinking back as you were talking I've never ever seen a job interview or gone for a job that hasn't had a price bracket or a price guide I've never had a job like you put

out that said tell me what you want to be paid oh no we had obviously have you have to when you put a thing up on Seek, it's got a price guide to it, but you don't have to make a price guide visible, right? So when you search, it'll still come up within a certain pay bracket and every job, whether it be a logistics manager or a customer service manager has a medium price, right? Yeah, so she still knew the bracket. There's still a bracket within the industry, but I mean, you can pay people at the very bottom end of a bracket or you can pay people at the middle.

And I think companies who purposely pay their employees at the very bottom end of their, and I'm not just talking about if it's a casual job where there's set wage like award wages I'm talking about you know having like average if you are working for a company that picks the very bottom wage for every single person then I think that's a pretty fucking shitty culture to work for in a company see I mean I spent 13 years in the hospital system public hospitals is probably even worse private and public they're both the same pretty much but I have never not had to argue why and maybe this is why I'm such a good negotiator but I've never had to not argue my wage ever and prove myself and everyone that works everyone listening now will know exactly

what i'm talking about you have to to go up a price bracket you have to prove every skill you've got how long you've done it how long you've been in that specific modality what hospitals you've worked at why you should be able to jump up into the next bracket so you're constantly trying to prove they will always pay you the minimum unless you prove otherwise once it's on paper and you've proven your skill set and why you're worth it they have no choice but to put you up and I think that's a lot of industries if you can prove your worth they will most likely give you what you are worth now that's the thing right you've got to in order to be able to prove your worth you have to have the self-confidence that you are worthy the thing is is it's so hard to ask for a raise the

first time anyone who's had to walk into their boss's office and try and pitch as to why they deserve 10% 20% whatever it is that you're asking for it is so fucking nerve-wracking to go in there and be like I want 14% pay rise because of this isn't this reason don't go in there put in paper send an email it's so hard but the thing is is like anything that you do that's new in life the first time you do it it's gonna suck it's gonna feel awful they may say no they may come back with a negotiation meeting you halfway but then the next time you do it you kind of build up your thick skin around it till you get to a point where you're like okay I had the confidence I know my worth and I'm not going to work for less than that the other thing is here we are talking from

so much privilege here we are talking from positions this advice is if you're privileged enough that you can say no to a job if they're not going to pay your work there are a lot of people out there now and I feel like we've all been in that position that you will take whatever you can get because job security is scarce and getting a great job at the moment off the back of COVID and everything it's really hard so there are going to be times where you say you know what I will take a $10 an hour cut to get this job. Because I need it. Because I need it.

And then I'll do it for a year and then in a year I know that I will go and tell them – I will show them in a year, show your employer why you are not replaceable and why you are a value to that company or whatever position you're in, go back a year later and then try and negotiate because it's easy for us to sit here and be like, no, you're worth and you should know you're worth. But unfortunately reality doesn't bless us in that way in this day and age.

so I understand I mean I I have taken so many jobs hospital jobs and non-hospital jobs that I knew when I could get more somewhere else and I knew I was worth more but they were like look we know you've got that skill set but this is a job on offer this is in our budget and you're like well fuck but okay I'll take it I've got rent and I've got bills and there's no other position going so I'm going to take it 100 most people are going to be in that position where they don't have the blessing to be like fuck you I'm worth more I'm going to go find it somewhere else but don't you then that you think that that contradicts what you said at the very beginning in terms of like going in and asking for the highest amount I think it what it needs to be in your position

yeah and I think that's why like you know we said that in the middle of this kind of saying we're talking about if it is purely that you have the opportunity to and you have the privilege to be able to move within your career or you're starting a new job but job security is not the issue in this right like you have the opportunity to negotiate because if job security is the issue then you don't have the opportunity to negotiate you've got to take whatever's available so that you can put food on the table but the thing is it doesn't change what i'm saying that much because if a company has said this is the bracket you know they've got that to pay so you just need to show them why that's the reason i still don't think i don't think you're going cocky and like

a wanker but they're not saying we've got 35 and you're going and saying i want 40 they've given you the bracket you're just trying to say why you you think you deserve the upper end if you are slightly worried, take a dollar off, take a $2 off. So it doesn't look like you've gone at a hundred percent, but you've gone in at 95% and then know that in a year's time, you can go back for that extra couple of dollars or whatever you knocked off. But I wouldn't be selling yourself short and going in at the very, very base level. They have put a bracket there, a price bracket for a reason. They have that to spend. They just looking for the right person and they want to know why they want justification. All right. Well, that is it from us guys. Another Ask Uncut done

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And don't forget, we are taking a one-week break because we didn't get a break this year, actually. This is the first holiday we're taking. This is the first week we took off the podcast this year. Oh, my God. I just said that out loud. I mean, to be fair, we've not taken a holiday off actually bringing out content.

We've been away. We've done things. We've lived a life. Yeah. But we haven't actually had a week. Yeah. And this is mandatory. Yeah.

No, podcast holiday. The podcast gods came to us and they said, you need to take a week off. So we're doing it. I'm going to be in Bali. Britt's going to be horizontal, getting a dicking. Banging. Yeah. It's going to be great for everyone.

Not necessarily horizontal. Handstand, lots of different places. Who the fuck is doing a handstand? Dude, not me. My joints can't hold myself up anymore. I'm too old for that kind of stuff. Handstand sex is the thing you try once in your 20s with a boy that you never marry. You're never marrying the guy that you tried handstand sex with, just FYI.

Well, I don't know. Maybe I'll give it a whirl just because you said that people don't do it. Once you're in your mid-30s, those elbows are not what they used to be. No, he'd have to do all the work. I can't hold myself up anymore. Those days are gone. Anyway, we're having a week off, so we'll see you the week after. And yeah, we can't wait to see you guys all at the live shows.

We love you lots. We miss you lots. And don't forget, tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friends and share the love because we love love. Thank you.