Life Uncut - Ask Uncut – Our bodies are not trends
Episode Date: November 9, 2022Hey Lifers,Producer Keeshia is filling in today because Laura is a bit busy doing something kind of important… just getting married!! Britt might be hesitant about sharing a bed with Keeshia after t...he last encounter at Laura’s hens.Today we jump in by unpacking the return of the ‘heroin chic’ trend. We talk about how society’s ideals of what constitutes the ‘perfect’ figure have shifted so much over the course of time and how it’s been left undissected and not called out until now.It’s really only now that more nuanced conversation is happening about our body shapes and how we need to unsubscribe from this deeply problematic narrative. Then we jump into your questions!1. Can you date your ex’s acquaintance?2. I constantly check up on my partner’s ex on social media. I feel like a loser but I can’t seem to stop looking at her and comparing myself3. Can I ask everyone to chip in $40 to come to my 30th birthday? There will be some food and a bar tab If you’d like to vote for us at the Australian podcast awards, we’d love you forever!!You can do that here: https://australianpodcastawards.com/vote You know the drill, tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because we love love! xxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.
I'm Brittany.
And I'm producer Keisha, filling in for Laura today because she's doing something a little
bit more important than answering your deep, dark and burning questions, even though we
got a review saying that we should stop saying deep, dark and burning questions.
Well, that's what the segment's called, deep, dark and burning questions.
Deep, dark and dirty for today.
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laura's getting hitched i mean not today because obviously that would be there
but like very very very soon days we i mean i say we like we've done the right thing we've given
laura some time off no obviously laura's getting married literally in i'm not going to tell you
how many days between one and four it's less than three and you still don't have a dress
i know oh my god you just reminded me hopefully that's one of the packages i need to pick up i
still don't have a dress I ordered it it did not come so I ordered another one it did not come I
have a bit of a pattern here I think I am you need to be a lot more organized spoiler I am the most
disorganized person you have ever met and mind you I get everything done like I get it done
everyone gets what they need on time but I wait until the last minute and I know this
with you every single day i'm more telling the audience i know you know because i leave
everything so late and everything is chaotic but that's how i work i work better under pressure
i've like this morning i can't tell you how it's so early i can't tell you how much i've done
because everything is due today i had to get up at like 5 a.m because i was like oh my god i left
everything to the last day laura's getting married like tomorrow so laura is getting married in the
next couple of days which is amazing which means she has taken a couple of days off and she's also
going to take next week off because you know lo and behold they're going to have a mini they're
not going anywhere for their honeymoon but they're taking a week off to be together but i will let
you know that the episode that you and laura recorded yesterday can i just tell everyone who
it's with because it's like yeah it's fucking huge it was great she's the biggest relationship
speaker in the world she's someone that we have been i don't want to use the term hassling
enthusiastically encouraging her to come on the podcast for like 18 months two years I reckon or
maybe even two and a half the pods nearly four years old I think yeah it's Esther Perel huge
if we knew how to use this machine but I would put some clapping in or some cheering after that
Esther Perel but we don't but Esther Perel is if you guys don't know who Esther Perel is
go and have a look you can literally find her anywhere on podcasts books TED talks she's
incredible the main book that she became famous for was called mating in captivity it came out in
like 2006 and she has these really nuanced perspectives on relationships and affairs
and what constitutes monogamy and she's just fucking amazing she talks a lot about infidelity
like that's one of her subspecialties I guess she studied infidelity and she's so fascinated by it
and I'm also so fascinated by that and I just thought you know what I've been chasing it for
two and a half years because she's so great that I just wanted a free therapy session and I just
disguised that with questions for the podcast but I was like I was like therapy me and then we'll
just add some other questions in for you guys but it's a brilliant episode and that will come to you
next week yes next Tuesday so keep your hot little ears ready for that but Britt how do you feel
about uh the fact that we're going to be at Laura's wedding in a couple of days which is so exciting
but um you're gonna have to share a room with me you guys I can't believe we actually didn't talk
about this this was so funny so I think I actually asked for us to not because I was so mortified by
this happening so a couple of weeks ago at Laura's hens party Keisha and I you know you got our hens
we went away to a house all the everyone shares rooms Keisha and I because we're so close there
was two people that had to share a bed not just a room but a bed so we're fine so we shared this
queen bed small queen bed it's quite quite compact I think it was like a what's it called queen
double queen or whatever those maybe a double no it was a queen but weirdly enough it was actually
the first time that we'd ever slept next to each other and we see each other literally every day
yeah but that's because we live down the road you're not just gonna be like hey come sleep in
my bed for funsies like so we're sharing kitchen i share in a bed and i am a like not to toot my
own horn but i'm like an angel sleeper i don't move i just lay in one spot and i'm even more
conscious of it when i'm sharing a bed with someone but i just like lay on the edge and i'm
asleep in the middle of the night keisha rolls over frantically sits up in bed like i reckon her
face is three centimeters from my face three max like i could feel her breath on my face and she's
sitting up and i'm like what's happening and she starts to stroke my face and my head and with one
hand and then she's rubbing my back and she's going shh britney it's all right it's all right
there there and I'm like what the fuck I was like Keisha Keisha and she goes it's okay I'm here I'm
here nothing to be afraid of and I was like what is happening I'm like Keisha and I was trying to
I was like oh my god I think she's asleep she's like caressing my body telling me everything
I was not caressing your body I was patting you on the head excuse me I was the one that felt it
you were unconscious and then you rolled back asleep and I had to like roll you over right I
was like oh my god I woke up at that point because that's when I realized what was happening because
in my reality I was having a nightmare that you were having a nightmare and you were freaking out
and so I was like it's pretty it's okay like it's because you know you don't have many people sleep
next to you Brit you're not used to it that's even worse you think I'm so lonely that I can't even get
myself through a nightmare that is so funny but now Keisha and I have to sleep together again so
I'm wondering what's going to happen and that also poses another problem there's not that many
single people going to the wedding you and I are two of the single people and apparently there are
some single guys there how do we work around that when we're like when we're both in the room I mean
I booked the room so I guess I can trust it you've got to go to their house I'm sleeping on the lounge
apparently we will cross that bridge when we come to it I'm assuming but yeah look I do want to
formally apologize for being a bit of a creeper in my sleep I couldn't sleep the rest of the night
I'm laying there like a salmon with my eyes open.
I was like, what if she comes back?
Well, in more exciting, happy news, my good friend, friend of the podcast,
Rebel Wilson, just had a little baby girl.
So she just, oh, she had it a week ago, but she just announced it yesterday.
How beautiful.
Her name is Royce and she's absolutely divine.
And it's just one of those things where, you know, you just want to say,
I shed a tear.
I cried because I know it's been a long time coming for her and it's so nice to see people
achieve their dreams and this doesn't seem like a big dream when you're someone like that achieves
as much as someone like Rebel Wilson is but personally you know something she's wanted for
a long time so when you look at a friend do something incredible like that you're stoked
gives you all the feels you know. I think also like Rebel's had so many I don't want to say
shocks there's been some things in the past two years in her life that have been like oh whoa
didn't see that coming oh yeah she dropped the this bomb did she totally like we saw the photos
of her with the bellas uh from pitch perfect a couple of weeks ago and they were having this i
just thought it was like a really nice reunion catch-up and now again yeah she's in like a pink
dress it was a baby shower which is so lovely but because she wasn't pregnant yeah no i guess
when you look at it like that rebs has been pretty good at you don't want to say keeping secrets but
dropping surprises and making little announcements but she did have a little baby Royce via surrogate
which is you know why it was a surprise for a lot of people because obviously she wasn't visibly
pregnant I mean my initial thought was pretty little sneaky sucker I had a suspicion that you
knew this was going on you didn't say anything yeah I knew from the beginning you know that's
I think that's something that you definitely tell your friends and you tell trusted friends but
I take that very seriously like I was I mean you guys I didn't even tell you guys that that was
coming actually I don't know if I've kept a secret that long in my life but but that is something
that I definitely value people's privacy and if Rebel didn't trust me she wouldn't have told me
and I take that really seriously so um yeah it's been a long exciting little journey and I can't
wait to meet her yeah well I mean she's a beautiful little baby but something that I would love to kind
of do a little bit more of a deep dive on because this just made me realize that I didn't know very
much about it was is actually surrogacy because I know that's really different between Australia
and America. Yeah I think surrogacy is different all over the world but we have pretty strict rules
here and I don't like I don't want to jump in them too much because I don't know them but I know it's
illegal here to be paid for surrogacy whereas it's definitely not in America. Yeah right interesting
maybe maybe Rebs could come on and do part two Rebel Wilson. I'm like looking at you with deep
eyes being like Brittany set it up. There is something in the news at the moment that I did
want to talk to you about and I don't know whether you saw a post by Jamila Jamil in the last couple
of days but it was in response to something that the New York Post posted so the New York Post is
like a publication in America I know they posted me actually a couple weeks ago but that's irrelevant
well they're in our bad books right now I know because they posted an image that had Khloe
Kardashian and Kim Kardashian with the headline heroin chic is back oh and doesn't your soul just
vacate the building this is what Jamila Jamil had to say about it no we tried this before in the
90s and millions of people developed eating disorders I had one for like 20 years we're
not doing this again we're not going back our bodies are not trends our body shapes are not
trends fuck off and while I think like every single one of us yes can recognize that this is
just such a problematic trend to happen in society something that I did actually think about was well
is this like a new thing is this something that has only existed in the past decades or has this
been going on for a really long time no i think it's been going on for a very very long time i
even think back you know i'm 35 i think back to my teenage years which is you know i mean that
doesn't seem like a long long time ago but we're still talking 20 years ago and heroin chic was in
then because i remember wanting to be really skinny because everything i saw and everyone i
saw was really skinny that was like the Kate Moss the young Kate Moss and it's funny because we used
to say the term heroin chic and not think about what it meant really it's only the last few years
I've been like that is so fucked we are saying we want to look like a drug addict because that is
what heroin chic is well Jamila Jamil went on to make a video about it she was like it's not enough
for them to look starving girl skinny they actually want us to look like we are so deprived of sleep
and nutrition that we have dark circles under our eyes that we are struggling to hold our posture up
well it's always like look at these really prominent cheekbones on this model they probably
shouldn't be that prominent but they're so gaunt because this was the look that they had to achieve
and so many victoria's secrets models so many different models around the world have come out
saying how unhealthy that time was in their life because they were already size sixes size fours
twos in america and every casting they went to kept saying lose more weight you're too fat you're
too big their period stopped they got a mental illness from it because everyone was always
telling them they're not enough they're not enough lose more weight they're starving it's just so
soul-destroying to think that this is coming back into trend especially after however many what do
you reckon 10 years of the kardashians bringing curves back and bringing this more voluptuous
body back in which i think i don't know if that was a great thing either because that was also
an extreme trend I think that we've been yo-yoing between all these extreme bodies for years and I
don't know when or how that's going to end the only thing that I think was a little bit of a
relief about the Kardashians and this is my personal opinion this is not backed up by science
but I think that out of all of the body trends that had existed it was kind of the first time
that you could put a monetary value on it so like generally speaking if you had enough money in the
world you could look like that whereas other body trends before let's like let's compare this to
heroin chic i'm a natural f cup i have what they call an hourglass body no matter what i did to my
body i would ever ever ever fit into a heroin chic trend and so i think the only thing that the
kardashians did that was quite remarkably different was that because all of theirs was through you
know artificial i mean not that they're claiming that they're not admitting to it but we all know
that there was Brazilian butt lifts. There were things that people could do if they had enough
money in the bank. And I think that the only thing that that did in a positive way was that it
relieved the pressure of being like, well, that's not even real. Like that's not even what they
actually look like, which I think internally took a little bit of the pressure off of ourselves.
But I did do a bit of a deep dive into, and I'm going to put this in quotation marks,
ideal body trends that have existed throughout time. And I thought I'd only be going back a
hundred years hilariously i'm going back 1000 bc so what was the body trend 1000 bc this is ancient
egypt wasn't it just like wine and grapes it says in this era the ideal woman is described as
slender narrow shoulders high waist symmetrical face we move into ancient greece plump full-bodied
light skin oh we would have done well okay now i've jumped ahead for obvious reasons but you
think about like renaissance paintings like you think about all the stuff that michelangelo
painted all very voluptuous very curvy big bosomed let's go to the roaring 20s flat chest
downplayed waist short bob hairstyle boyish figure fast forward to the 1930s to 50s curves
hourglass figure large breasts slim waists i would have fit in in that time you fit in any
time of the big booby time we get to the heroine chic time waferish extremely thin translucent
skin, androgynous. I mean, okay, hang on. Translucent skin? That's not something you can
do unless you are so malnourished and unhealthy. Like you can't, you don't, you don't go down to
the store and you'll say, hey, I'm going to grab a turtleneck. I'll grab some foils in my hair and
I'll get some translucent skin. Like you don't, how does one accomplish translucent skin? That
is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. A hundred percent. They wanted you to look frail and
basically neglected like kate moss was the model of the time if that's if you want to get a bit of
a picture and then they've got post-modern beauty 2000s to today flat stomach healthy skinny healthy
skinny that's what they've said large breasts and butt thigh gap my point of bringing up these
body trends and the closeness in and by the way there are others in between i've just jumped to
the ones that we're mainly talking about today but my point of bringing that up is because for
you to live throughout your entire lifetime, it is impossible to fit into a body trend for your
whole life. It is literally impossible to fit into every single one of these things because they are
so vastly different. And what I think is so fucked up is that for so, so, so long, like it's really
only our generation that has actually called this stuff out. This hasn't been dissected. It hasn't
been called out before. It hasn't actually been thought about. It's just been quite accepted
as a societal standard that you know okay well now you need to change everything about yourself
so that you can fit into this particular thing and I think that the only way that we're going
to rewrite that narrative and as Jamila Jamil says like we're not doing this again we're not
going back there and from 2022 we're not going back to this bullshit the only way that we're
going to not go back there is to call it out because we need to rewire our own brains like
you think about any person that you know and I would even say to this day I think it would be
almost impossible to find someone that hasn't had a bad thought about their own body image when they
look into the mirror right no but I also think that's something that's happened for a long time
I don't necessarily think that's a new generational thing I think transitioning from teenage years to
a woman for anyone at any age these things start to happen and I think that also just comes from
a comparison culture you're looking at someone else's and the grass is always greener right
as women we're always like oh but what if I looked like her what if I did this what if I was skinnier
what if I had bigger boobs what if I like you always want to change something and I think that
that society contributes a lot to that journey but I think that initial thought I don't know how
women and girls get that out of their head completely I think that's going to enter their
head as they start to go through puberty and they have these thoughts but that's when it's up to us
to nip it in the bud then at 12 13 14 15 not encourage it by seeing its social media and its
magazines and this is absolutely wild to me but the influence that the Kardashians have on the
world is insanity now for women it is crazy to think and it's a crazy statement to say that one
family could possibly be a huge huge instigator in these trends but I actually think they are
when you look at the family the Kardashians the women they're I mean they're all stunning women
and there is nothing wrong with changing your body if you want to there's nothing wrong with it but
they have done that a lot whether they've admitted to it or not you've seen the change
they I think that they started the term you're not ugly you're poor because they've got the money to
do what they want to do to change collectively they have over 1 billion people that follow them
1 billion and most of those are women impressionable women impressionable young girls
because they are everywhere we've always looked up to them as a society because it seems like
they attain so much their goals you know they're billionaires they're beautiful they drive the cars
they're at the fancy parties they wear amazing clothes they always look immaculate that's because
a lot of it's photoshopped it's a lot of surgery it's a lot of control over the media but that one
family every time they change this is why this whole conversation about the trend is back is
because of kim kardashian because she went curvy she's now lost so much weight she's so skinny
she has kick-started the trend again this is why people are saying look it's back kim is the photo
they're using so i think it's it's wild that this one family can have this influence but it
Definitely this change has to start with them.
They have to.
See, I don't know if I agree.
I don't know if it's a chicken or an egg situation.
I don't know whether it's that they also feel the pressure that in order to stay as, you know, the it girls in the world,
they have to follow what the rest of society is expecting of them or if they're the ones setting the trends.
I don't have enough answers about like whether it's the chicken or the egg there because they could just as easily be the ones going like, oh, shit.
Like, okay, well, this is what we need to conform to now.
well you've seen the trends right there have been since chloe and kim and the girls came out with
the big butts and the brazilian butt lift kind of vibe the surgical trend like yeah there is no
denying it skyrocketed now in the last 18 months oh yeah probably 18 months we've seen chloe and
kim both start to shrink back to these very very lean small women which you know they're still
beautiful like we're not saying there's anything wrong with any shape we're just saying the
shape-shifting that they're doing but i think they do have a lot of influence like with a billion
people that follow them when they get you know like it's evident that what they do is influential
they put a lip liner up it's sold out across the world in five seconds everything they do people
want so i think that it's good i don't like what you said before is accurate i don't think this is
going to stop social media is going to get bigger these people we follow and look up to are going
to get bigger i think it's going to have to start back at home physically in home and home is in
like ourselves in our brain with ourselves to say you know what i can recognize that they look
amazing I can also recognize that I don't want to have to go and get surgery to look like that or I
don't have to go and starve myself to have translucent skin it's just easier said than done
totally and I think that the only way that we actually start to do that is by calling out
situations like this and recognizing that even though trends like there's nothing wrong with
following trends a lot of people are really into fashion they get a lot of enjoyment about it
but whenever we see a trend pop up whether that be you know like gut health is all the thing at
the moment whether it be that this new particular fashion style like the noughties fashion is
really back with the low rise jeans and the little crops and all that kind of thing. This is where I
will never follow the trend. I'm not going back to the low rise. These muffin tops are staying well
and truly trapped in here. I think it's like really important to recognize that even though
you can get like, there can be health benefits out of things like that. It can be really positive
things like enjoyment out of fashion and clothing and all that kind of thing. I think it would be
ignorant for us to not recognize that there is a really dark side and diet culture has this way of
like morphing itself into a different fucking beast. So that it's, you know, the whole idea
about diet culture is that they set these new trends in order to make you feel shit about
yourself so that they can sell you something to make you feel better about yourself. Like that
is the overarching umbrella of what diet culture represents. And I think it's important that
whenever trends like this come into the spotlight, we just need to call it out for exactly what it
is and while it is okay to enjoy the evolution of fashion and trends your body is not one of
those things your body is not a trend diet culture is a very dangerous trend anyway that's pretty
dark we got a little high horse there but uh should we get into answering some questions
some deep dark burning questions we're not allowed to say i know apparently
all right question number one question number one this was a bit of a long story that came in but
I'm gonna summarize it this girl was in a relationship for about 18 months with this guy
and throughout that time she had met one of his friends not close friends but acquaintances they'd
run in similar circles kind of thing but you know they hang out occasionally they broke up
nothing they completely moved on probably like 18 months ago big time and now that friend acquaintance
and her have been talking and there's a bit of she's like I have a real crush on this guy and
I think I actually want to go and date him and I know he feels the same because I can get the vibe
from the way they're texting. Is she allowed to do that? Is there a time frame between friends
or is it perpetually stepping on their toes? I thought this was a really, really good one. Now,
obviously that was a longer story, which is why I had to summarize it, but they were the important
points. I think there are a couple of different factors that come into this. Okay, hit me. Who
are better friends is this person like a really close friend of their ex or are they just like an
acquaintance style like I think that the level of acquaintance yeah I think the level of closeness
between them is important to consider because if they're really good friends if anything ever
happened with the new the friend there'd be situations that run in the same circle
I know it's it's a hard one because part of me wants to say if it was like a best friend part
of me would say just you just don't do it like unless you thought that this was the penguin and
you're going to marry them and like live a very long happy fulfilled life I'd be like go for it
because I think you know it's hard to find your penguin so if you find it and you really think it
is great but this is a really tricky one for me because I'm thinking okay if you if you guys could
actually be something and you're not going to see them all the time they're not in each other's best
friends circle it might just be what I don't know once a month once every two months who knows but
there will be times you're going to see each other so I think these two people have to be very sure
that they really like each other because it is going to start some uprest I mean yes but also
like sometimes like do you just go and encourage them and say just go and ride him like just go
and have a good time and like you've moved on from your oh so you're saying like okay you're
saying go and hook up and it's and maybe keep it a secret hook up see if the vibe is there before
you go and announce it to the world I just think it's quite a full-on thing to be like okay well
we kind of know each other through a caten circles and now I'm confessing my love for you and like
I'm so into you like does it need to be that full-on with an acquaintance probably not if it
was a really good friend I think it probably would need to be at that level before you cross that
boundary but no matter what I think as soon as you do cross that line like you're saying goodbye
to the friendship the two guys are saying goodbye to the friendship you mean you know what actually
the more and more I sit on this I actually think it's play on I think it's play on if you broke up
if you need to like if you broke up that long ago I think it depends on whether you want to
keep a good relationship with your ex or not do you care what they think because as soon as you
do that as soon as you bang a friend of your ex that positive pathway of whatever you've been
trying to maintain it's gonna go like no matter what no matter if you're just like yeah well you
know how we broke up x amount of time ago like you're still going to care if your ex bangs your
friend even if it's like an acquaintance friend you're going to be like oh that just doesn't sit
that well with me okay so my final verdict would be from what you have said and the level of
closeness with the three of you my verdict would be if you really want to explore it explore it
but I would be exploring it very privately I wouldn't be going and making this big fuss I
wouldn't be rubbing it under other people's noses or making it public I'd be like if you really want
to with this person go and see if there's something there see if it's there between you guys privately
if there is something more and you actually want to go down the path of maybe dating or
or getting to know each other better then that's a conversation you're going to have to have again
and then it's a conversation of it's a whole nother question isn't it if that happens then
do you have to tell the ex in advance so that he doesn't run into you guys when you're out or is
it something like that's another question but for now I'm going to say with how long it's been with
the level of closeness I think it's okay I think that's a very standard thing in a lot of places
like here in Bondi for example because everyone knows everyone it's always you're always dating
someone that you know someone else has dated or everyone knows everyone so I think I'm gonna say
go for it but tread very carefully go and ride him go and have some fun maybe keep it private
like keep it don't live tweet it or live stream it or privately keep it on the download until
yeah until maybe you think and you can keep it on the download forever like you are not obliged
to tell anybody but if it's going to turn into more like if you're actually starting to develop
feeling zero if you think that something could eventuate maybe just recognize that that connection
between your ex and you is going to be over no matter like no matter what yeah all right next
question hi ladies can you please help provide me some clarity i've been with my partner for five
years now we even have a child together but i can't stop myself from constantly checking up on
his ex on social media i tell myself all the time that there's no reason to do it and yet i find
myself just curious about what she's doing my partner is incredible and loyal and I have never
had a reason not to trust him and I genuinely have no idea why I feel this way I hate that I'm the
type of person that does this and it makes me feel so self-conscious I feel like a loser honestly I
just want to have this part of my life stop and move on any help or advice appreciated this is
sounds like maybe like a watered down version of something we've spoken about before which is
retrospective jealousy which is you get this level of obsession and you can't move on from
a partner's ex now this is someone that you've never met someone that they were in a relationship
before you even came on the scene sometimes before you even knew them sometimes this can happen
you know we've had cases where people been in their 30s and they're they can't get past the
fact that their partner was with someone at 18 like really it's a real condition yeah we did a
whole episode on i mean to me this just sounds like a little bit of curiosity killing the cat
though I agree but there is a reason you can't get past the ex and I mean at the end of the day
I think it's normal to have a level of curiosity about who your partner has been with like I
100% think that's normal I always have had a little look-see when I met someone new but like
I'm really good with that it doesn't bother me that much I more just want to be like okay who
got your attention enough before me like what did that look like what did that person look like what
did they do but then I that's it I just have a look at them for two minutes and I'm done that's
all I need oh see I've taken a bit of a deep dive like I could potentially ask them how their trip
to Dubai in 2012 was yeah like and like wish them a happy birthday Merry Christmas it's really sorry
to hear about your granddad um no but like I don't think this is that abnormal I think it's a pretty
normal fucking thing to do I think the only issue with this is that you seem to not be able to stop
yourself from doing it and you have been with your partner for quite some time so I think that this
means that there's potentially a little bit of an insecurity within yourself about something that
she has that you maybe don't or that you deem that she has that you maybe don't like whether
you think that she's more attractive than you are or she's more successful than you are or like
she has more things than you do I don't know what it is there's obviously something that you kind of
need to unpack a little bit about what the reason that you're quite obsessively looking at her for
and in terms of moving forward from this I think you're gonna have to do the thing that we all find
the hardest to do? Block and delete. And I know that that is something that is so much easier
said than done because like for me, I have to think about my exes with blocking them. And we've
just been through this. Britt's been coaching me onto blocking the people that I don't need to see
in my life. Every day she comes back, she's like, did another one, unfollowed another one. I'm like,
yes, queen. But I think maybe what you could do in this situation is instead of kind of looking
at her and just obsessing over her life think about what you have with your partner and the
fact that you know your partner chose you to have a child with he has chosen you to be with
so obviously you have something in his eyes that they didn't have before you yeah I mean I think
that's what you take away from it you have the family unit that you have right now with him he
has chosen you you are living it so nothing good or healthy that can come from living in the past
when it's not even your past. You're living in his past. Like you're going down that track.
Again, normal curiosity to have a look. If you cannot control yourself, I just think block them.
And I mean, they're not going to know unless they're also stalking you. They're not going
to know if you block them. It's going to make it less accessible for you and you can start to
wean yourself off it. The other thing that might be happening is you do need to unpack why, but
I don't know. This is, I'm just putting this out there. You have a kid, you guys have a kid
together, a couple of years old, obviously, because you've only been together a couple of years.
maybe she doesn't have a child and maybe you have something some deep-seated issue where you're like
oh she's living this amazing life child free and we know like Laura and I have discussed this along
the podcast when there's friends and I'm saying friends even though you aren't friends with her
but like when there's other people that are at a different part of life to you it's easy to look
when you're at home with the child it's easy to look at someone she might be going out drinking
she might be looking banging all the time with her friends and she might look like she has this
really fun carefree life and you might be at home being like oh my gosh talking yourself making
yourself crazy what if he wants to go back to his ex what if he doesn't want this life anymore like
I don't know what you're thinking I just know that nothing good can come from living in this world
especially when it's been five years it's just not healthy for you not healthy for your relationship
not healthy for your partner I'm assuming your partner doesn't know either I'm assuming you're
not like, hey, did another deep dive on Sally today. She's looking great. So it's just something
that the only person that can control it, unfortunately, is you. And it's a matter of
willpower and it can become an addiction. So if you've been doing this for five years, if you have
been looking and stalking, you probably feel like you know her, even though you don't, like you do
not know her. So it does take a lot of self-control to wean yourself off that. Do you reckon any of
your exes uh do you reckon any of their current partners are stalking you on Instagram I reckon
they probably would with you actually I don't probably I reckon they'd keep their eye on that
one I do have an ex I did speak to an ex recently I don't think actually any of my exes actually
have girlfriends I don't think there's anyone to stalk me I'm not that interesting all right
Question number three, I'm turning 30 and need some advice.
Is it inappropriate to host a birthday party at a venue and ask your guests to pay $40
per person?
This would cover more than enough food with a bar tab, cocktails included.
I would love to know where you've gone for $40 with a bar tab and food.
I have paid upward of $70 to attend other friends' birthdays, example, a champagne
breakfast or a set menu lunch.
I have never taken issue with it.
But now that it's my birthday, I feel rude to ask people to pay for an event that I want
to throw.
So I guess the question is, can you ask someone to pay $40 per person to come and celebrate
your birthday?
What do you think?
Because I mean, I have my opinion.
I mean, I think you can.
I think the only thing that needs to be really clear in this is that you disclose that people
are going to have to pay money in the invitation.
so for example if like you know you send out a message being like hey guys I'm having a birthday
it's Saturday the blah blah of this day starts at this time it's at this place great if you want to
come let me know and then all these people are like yep yep yep see you there see you there see
you there and then you're like cool you all owe me money I feel like that could be a little bit
awkward and also that would make a lot of people that are going being like oh okay like I feel like
that's something you probably should have told us early on I think because the price of this I
think it's really, really reasonable. I mean, I think if you were asking for like an excessive
amount of money, then it could be a little bit like, oh, well, I guess, you know, if people
want to go to that, but you also have to accept the fact that they might not be willing to spend
that much to celebrate someone else's birthday. I think this is totally fine. I actually didn't
even second guess this, this question. I was like, I would do that. Sure. I think it's fine
to send out a mass text or a Facebook messenger or whatever it is, whichever. I'm sure you're not
like courier pigeoning the invitation to people but like I think it's fine like guys it's my
birthday come celebrate with me let's go to dinner I'm gonna book this place $40 per person that
covers drinks and food 7 30 if you can make it let me know I would love to have you you're literally
just saying like hey let's just all get together and celebrate a birthday I don't think you have
to take that upon you to throw this huge bash and pay for everything like I think it's how you
present it it would be very different if you're like hey guys i have charted a super yacht that
is five hundred dollars per person be there seven o'clock like that's different because that's a
that's a lot of money a big expectation um but i think it's different to say come have dinner with
me you know and help me celebrate it's 40 bucks you get dinner you get drinks um 40 is like made
that is value for money reasonable that is insane that is insane value for money anywhere these days
so I think don't overthink that and at the end of the day you have given the information you have
said this is where it is this is what it costs I would love to have you it's cool if you don't like
if one of your guests doesn't want to go or if they find themselves a bit tight that week and
they don't want to spend that much money they just won't come and they'll make an excuse and
they're not going to hate you for throwing a dinner that costs $40 they're just going to say
hey have an amazing time I've actually got other plans so I don't think you're going to ruin any
friendships by but I think this is a pretty standard thing I've gone to loads of friends
birthdays where everyone just turns up and pays for the dinner and drinks I've had birthday dinners
where everyone just comes and they've paid their dinners that's just more of a like a friends
meeting up kind of thing yeah I think that because you're like it's not like you're just asking them
to cover the venue hire they're actually getting something in exchange for it if it was just for
like a venue hire then it maybe could feel a little bit different yeah exact same thing like
two weeks ago I was on a boat for a friend's birthday and we all chipped in like 75 bucks
so that it would cover the cost of the boat. And that was great. Like no one batted an eyelid at
it. And you just, if you didn't have the $70, you just wouldn't have gone, right? 100%. And
you're not going to hold that against, you wouldn't have held that against the birthday boy?
No, not at all. But I mean, also think about all the other things that you like contribute money
to. Like if you go to a hen's party, you always chip in, right? If you go to some baby showers,
like events like that is really normal to be like, Hey guys, this is what's happening. And
This is how much it's going to cost.
I genuinely don't see any problem at all with this.
I think that maybe you are just the type of person
that feels a little bit uncomfortable asking people for money.
Yeah, I think you're an empath, which is great.
You're not an asker.
But I can almost promise you,
I don't think anyone's going to take an issue with this.
And if they do, they're just not going to come
and you're not going to lose a friendship over it.
So I hope you have a bloody good 30th birthday party
with all your friends
and you drink and eat your heart's content for 40 bucks.
Don't lose sleep over it
because you are not doing the wrong thing.
100%.
Well, that is it from us at Ask Uncut.
Producer Keisha, thanks for jumping on the podcast today.
Thank you for having me.
Now we need to go and get you a dress.
Literally, we have hours.
I'm in a bit of a panic mode because nothing arrived.
This has happened to me a few times lately.
It's been a bit of a disaster.
Sorry, the Auspost is not to blame here.
Your late ordering is to blame here.
You have seen how many FedEx pickup things I have out there.
I have a lot of things that have been delivered.
do you know what annoys me is when they deliver things but they don't tell you when
oh and then they're like this is the third attempt and i'm like well you've never told
me when you're coming you don't even tell me what day how do you know what my problem is now
and it actually happened to me yesterday i was at home and i got an email being like your parcel
has been delivered and i went i opened my front door and i was like no it hasn't and they've put
the parcels down the bottom of our apartment blocks and i'm like deliver it to my freaking
door yeah like i'm home i know i have cctv i am home don't put a fucking slip in the mail and
make me come to the post office and wait for their opening hours
and then line up to collect my package when I was home the entire day.
I'm clearly getting very worked up about this.
But while I am worked up.
This is definitely not sponsored by AusPost.
Fuck AusPost right now.
No, actually.
No, they do a great job.
You do.
You work really hard.
You work really hard.
I get it.
I'm just frustrated.
No, you guys do a great job.
I'm a particular delivery person who keeps on not actually delivering to my door.
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