Life Uncut - Ask Uncut - the not so purrrfect Met Gala
Episode Date: May 3, 2023Hey Lifers, Welcome back to your weekly therapy session! This week we're kicking things off with a bit of an in house debate and it's farshun honey! Look it up!Speaking of fashion, we're unpacking whe...ther you can separate someone's legacy and the art that they've created from who they are as a person. Can you celebrate someone who has made a huge impact on the world despite not agreeing with their controversial views? Vibes this week:Laura: L'Oreal Paris Paradise Mascara Intense Black here Britt: Great lengths hair extensions here Keeshia: Podcast episode of The Daily - The ballad of deepfake Drake here Then we jump into your questions: -Have a question for all your dog owners out there. How many of you let your dog sleep on your bed? If so, how do you have sex (solo or with a partner)? Is it a bit of a mood killer having to stop, lock your dog outside, listen to it cry for being locked out, do your thing then let it back in the bed? -Would you date someone with the same name as your sibling or dad? I previously dated a guy with the same name as my brother. I met a guy out on the weekend and we had the most amazing time together but I don’t think I can take it further simply because he has the same name as my dad... Is this robbing myself of my time with someone who could be a potential partner or is it too weird? -I am 19 years of age and I currently work in childcare full time. My workplace is all females, who are majority mums. I work in the same room as this 37 year old who acts like she’s in high school. She gossips, bags and talks shit about other workers and loves to be overly overpowering in the workplace. Me being the overthinking person I am, I’m constantly worried she’s talking shit and it’s affecting my confidence in my ability at work. I feel so much toxicity in my workplace but I can't financially take the risk and leave. What should I do? If you have a question you'd like us to unpack, send it to us on Instagram Join the Facebook group Follow us on TiktokAnd tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because we love love! xx See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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We pay our respects to their elders past and present.
Always was, always will be Aboriginal land.
This episode was recorded on Darug Wollongong land.
Hey guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Brittany.
I'm Laura. You don't want to keep talking about my crocs?
No, you've already offended me in my fashion today.
I don't want to talk about it.
I said your shoes look like the inside of a pimple.
No, your quote said, what the fuck are they?
They are the ugliest things I've seen.
What the fuck are they?
They look like a whitehead pimple.
And I said, these are my $5 slides from Cotton On Body, and I love them.
You know what they say, you can't buy taste.
I love that this is coming from Laura, the least fashionable person in the world.
Okay, before we get into the episode, I'm unwell, and I know I sound unwell.
I want you guys to know that I know, that you know that I know, that I'm unwell and sound nasal.
You actually sound fine.
Not in my ears.
And also Keisha told me to.
And she's the producer.
So I trust her more.
Yeah.
Don't trust anything I do.
Well, like we pay her.
So I need to listen to what she says.
I think I'm an unhealthy person.
I don't really eat vegetables lately.
I don't think I've been looking after myself.
And I think that this is my body being like, pull your finger out.
Because I just feel like I hit my mid-30s and I got really lazy.
And I've never been that person.
And I've always been like so into my health, so into my fitness.
And all of a sudden you hit mid-30s and you're like,
I don't want to get up early and go to the gym anymore.
Who does though?
But I think I need to.
Do you know what it is?
The reason why it's stopped for you now is not because you hit your mid-30s.
It's because you're in a happy relationship.
It's like as soon as you bag it, as soon as you get one
and you've got them locked in, then you're like, oh, fuck, who cares?
Yeah, but I'm in a relationship.
Who am I doing the gym for?
Not me.
I'm in a relationship with someone whose job it is to be fit and healthy.
Well, it's good that he's doing it for the both of you.
Well, that's what I said.
All right, well, speaking of sick, I just went into the bathroom.
This is way too much information.
This is a good segue.
Yeah, okay, so we work – we're recording this at our ARN offices
and this is like a shared communal toilet.
We have a studio here.
Yeah, there's three cubicles, there's three toilets.
And I went in and I was like, I need to go to the bathroom,
walked into the middle one and somebody had absolutely decimated it.
Like it's not functioning.
I had to go and speak to the lady at reception, Daisy, who we love, and explain that it wasn't
me in front of an entire group of people who had done that.
And just to report it, you know, because that's the right thing to do.
Because people see you go into the bathrooms as well.
Yeah, I walked in.
I was the last person to come out.
And everyone's going to think that that was me.
And this is me just putting it out there to the world.
Daisy, if you're listening to this, I didn't do that.
But then I felt like I was justifying it.
And then I over justified it.
And now I'm in this awkward position where I spoke for so long about not doing it that
everyone thinks I did.
that is something that someone that decimated a toilet would say that's the problem so if you did
that i mean if i did that i would do the same thing i'd be like just so you know that was not
me like what's the perfect amount of under explaining something so that you don't take
responsibility for it like you want to acknowledge that it's happened but you don't want people to
think it was you how far do you go with the explaining you're just like oh hey guys there's
something wrong with cubicle number two did you double down on the decimation were you like i'm
sorry clogged i'm going to commit to it i went down i wanted a deep explanation around how it
wasn't me which made everyone stand there thinking it was me. They're like how do you know so much
about it? How much time did you spend in the decimated toilet? I was like look it looks like
this color on the bottom and then this color on top and then there's lots of toilet paper and I
don't know how it's happened but somebody left it like that I swear it wasn't me. How funny is it
that is awkward moments you've really got me thinking a toilet cubicle now but when like
there's a couple of cubicles and two people walking at the same time but no one wants to
do anything because the other person's there and it's dead silent. I will hold I will sit on the
toilet and not wait until that person has finished wiped their ass flushed and walked out i will wait
no i got i was in a standoff the other day in the same cubicle here i was in a standoff toilet
standoff there was someone in one no one in the middle and i was in the other one and we're both
holding it and she'd been in there before me she was in there long so you're like come on just
finish you've got to finish that i held for a minute and i was like she'll be out any minute
you could just hear like little scuffs and stuff but no noise from either and then i was like it
is so awkward now that i can't do it so i ended up just not doing it holding flushing pretending
i did pretending i did all that because you didn't want to wait in front of her it was just
too it was just too awkward it was like a mexican standoff you do have to kind of try and time it
so that you're not leaving your cubicle at the same time you try you wait for you're like oh
is that a toilet paper russell okay i know i have about 20 seconds or are they flushing you can time
somebody else yeah because you don't want to meet each other you don't meet each other the
at the hand washing station but also i'd be like i know what you were doing how annoying is it when
you flush because you're like okay this is my out i've got my out so you flush and then they
flush right after you you're like you heard me flush wait the obligatory 20 seconds before you
flush you just sit there and wait it out you do not flush one second after someone else's flushes
so you meet at the hand washing station also known as the tap i'm so glad that we all we all know
this that there is just like an unspoken etiquette about timing of going to a public toilet but
obviously some people don't know it people are gonna be like what the hell just do what you need
don't get out no I don't think so I think most people awkwardly time it to make sure that they're
not doing it at the same time as the person in the room next door okay if you walk into a cubicle and
you know you walk in shut the door go under your pants and then realize that actually the toilet's
not really usable like my situation today I was like man that's no one's gonna use that do you
pull your pants back up and walk out or do you just kind of leave them unbuttoned and then walk
into the next cubicle I would definitely use my spidey senses to assess the situation and be like
okay i don't think i heard anyone else come in i'd just leave them down out of laziness and i'll
just walk out into the next cubicle and waddle into the next one it also depends our cubicles
here there's three toilets if you're at like a concert this or an airport there's like 30 cubicles
you can't i mean you're really risking walking around with your pants under but imagine if you
walked out of one that had been decimated with your pants undone yeah it looks like you just
i mean i still think you get it you're like i'm ready for number two talk about laura's like how
much do you try and say before people realize it was you you've been banging on about it on the
pot for 20 minutes you decimated the toilet we've solved the problem inspector britney has solved
the problem oh fuck all right well anyway look there's lots of things we want to talk about in
today's episode obviously we want to answer your questions because that's what you all came here
for but let's talk about the thing that every single person on the whole of the internet
on instagram you can't even open up your phone without seeing it the met gala oh the met gala
now i have mixed feelings i'd still because you hate it i fucking hate it i love it obviously
it's a massive costume party. When I say I love it, I don't actually love it, but I do enjoy
doing a 20 minute scroll of what everyone wore. This Met Gala, everyone is naked. It's almost a
competition at how little you can wear. How see-through can it be? How small can your underpants
be? Because underpants are pants now, apparently. Except for if you're Rihanna. Can someone please
explain to me why she dressed up like a giant Tampax? It was a vibe, wasn't it? Was it? No,
our vibe is in like the theme of the night seemed to be quite menstrual only her and then olivia
wild she had this thing like it was like an armor down the front of herself but if you just focused
on the gold thing on her belly it looked like she was wearing a pad but also speaking of that
so awkward imagine going to the met gala and turning up in the same dress as someone it's
fashion's night of night somebody else wore that pad dress as well in black what yep yep exactly
exactly the dress i thought that if you're going to the met gala you got something custom made i
thought they all spent like four million dollars on their clothes this is vogue's china editor
margaret zhang and they both looked stunning like they did both look beautiful but she had
the black version and olivia had the white version and it was identical i would be beside
myself if i cared enough to go to that event i just don't understand why i don't understand
why it's so popular like why does it stop the world it's not even happening in our country
why do we care so much we have a weird obsession with celebrity and then we have a weird obsession
with fashion so you put fashion on celebrity and it's the night of nights that's how it's created
like no one cares about the event no one it's the dumbest charity also no one actually understands
what the event is we only know about the red carpet like what do they do they go and sit in a
hall do they have dinner do they have do they go for a dance like what do they do in their outfits
yeah don't you remember last year no i can't remember yesterday there was heaps of the behind
the scenes this stuff was leaked and apparently it was awful like they are spending thousands and
thousands to get a ticket to go to a table because it's raising money for the Met Gala costumes that's
what it is so they're raising like between 17 and 25 million dollars or something which is ludicrous
for the costumes but all this footage was leaked last year from people that went about the food
that was served and what actually happens on the inside and it looked grim grim it looked terrible
it looks like you cannot believe that's what people paying that much money literally to be
seen on the red carpet which i get because if you're a budding actor actress model whoever you
are it is the place to be seen it is going to get you in all the tabloids so i understand why people
are wanting to go i totally understand it yeah but they're getting in the tabloids and they look
stupid some no i love looking in the fashion some of them were absolutely incredible some of them
were beautiful beautiful beautiful who name one Kylie Jenner's outfit is one of the best I've
seen her in I think she looked stunning Kylie yeah wait the one that was where oh the red one
I'm sorry I thought I was thinking the black tuxedo I don't know who's who also why is there
two that never go do they just not get invited does Courtney and whatever her name not go
Courtney and Chloe yeah they never get invites I don't think they do know
oh Keisha's saying they got invited Keisha is actually up to date with what's
happening in the kardashian world i mean they got invited last year but this year they didn't make
the cut guys because the metgala is very exclusive and there was only room for three kardashians at
that table how devoid would you be well you just know where you sit in the pecking order like they
already know but then you really know and the world knows where you sit when you don't get an
invite to the metgala speaking of the pecking order it's like recently where you got invited
to that huge charity event to host it i didn't even get invited to go everyone was like oh you
couldn't make it i was like no i didn't get invited i did i was like i couldn't even invite
it wild look it was very very important cause unlike the Met Gala which was actually for no
cause at all the Met Gala I mean I know you mentioned it Brittany we spoke about it last
year the money literally goes to a fashion costume institute so think about raising 17
million dollars for a costume box I understand it because it's the fashion night but there's a lot
that's wrong with it and speaking of a lot that's wrong with it we did want to talk about something
that we you know we were alerted to this I didn't actually know this no one alerted to us we went
Jamila Jamil. No, we were alone. Jamila Jamil called me up and she's like,
Brie, I don't know if you know. She's like, I don't know what you're talking about on your
Thursday episode, but this needs to be discussed. Jamila Jamil. Now she's, I guess she's Hollywood's
ultimate feminist, right? She's a writer. She is a podcaster. She is a, did I say actor?
So one thing we haven't mentioned yet about the Met Gala is that every year there's a theme.
Well, the theme was Karl Lagerfeld.
He passed recently.
He was the creative mind behind Chanel.
So he's been the creative director of Chanel since 1983,
literally up until when he died.
But he also had his own clothing lines and accessory lines
and fashion lines as well.
Yeah, everyone knows who he is.
He was the king of fashion.
He also, in the later years of his life,
it became quite evident how controversial he was.
But I wonder whether he was just controversial in his later years
or whether it became more publicised because prior to that I think it was more focused on
his fashion and then as social media grew and as access to people's individual opinions became
more public we started to see more of the things that he would say so to give you some context
around that some of his controversial views are about things like Syrian refugees around weight
and body image making the comment that fat people shouldn't be wearing fashion or fashion's not made
for people a lot of fat phobia a lot of fat phobia he also had some pretty shocking comments
around the me too movement in 2018 he said to numero magazine that he was fed up with it and
this is a direct quote what shocks me most in all of this are the stylists who have taken 20 years
to remember what happened not to mention the fact that there are no prosecution witnesses
if you don't want your pants pulled about don't become a model join a nunnery it's actually wild
isn't it especially the fact that he's saying it took them 20 years to remember I'm sure there's
not a day that they've ever forgotten like this is has nothing to do with memory it's actually
so dismissive and crazy that he's saying these things and people are brushing it under the
carpet well I mean I think there's definitely been some commentary around how it was a very
unusual choice to make this Met Gala the theme around Karl Lagerfeld but Jamila Jamil came out
with a statement about it and I think you know mostly everyone has been looking at the beautiful
costumes I mean questionable whether they're beautiful but this was the first person who I've
seen actually put it into words why it's so problematic this is what she said last night
Hollywood and fashion said the quiet part out loud when a lot of famous feminists chose to
celebrate at the highest level a man who was so publicly cruel to women to fat people to immigrants
and to sexual assault survivors and all of the women's publications and spectators online chose
to gleefully ignore it suddenly your appetite to find someone's tweets from when they were 12 has
gone nobody has perfect morals least of all me but jesus christ we had a year to course correct here
and not award the highest honor possible to a known bigot and everyone just decided all of a
sudden we can separate the art from the artist when convenient and it's one rule for us and
another rule for everyone else last night we relinquished our right to be taken at all seriously
about anything important that was something she'd written in her notes basically and she'd posted
but then she went on to say it's not about cancel culture it's not even about kyle himself it's just
about showing how selective cancel culture can be and then she went on to get into politics actually
which i lost she lost me well i think the big question here is is that can you celebrate kyle
for being an incredible fashion, like he was the cornerstone of world fashion with what he
created in Chanel. Can you celebrate his legacy in terms of a fashion legacy and extract his
personal views and the way he saw the world? Like do those things live as silos or do we now in
today's culture, anybody who has had a significant impact on society and culture or anybody who we
hold up as a celebrity status, does the person always come with the art, which is exactly what
they've said the art with the artist are those things inextricable that we can't celebrate one
without acknowledging the other well there was something interesting that I did read in response
to that and Jamila's post really prompted some thoughts for me because I always knew very surface
level that Carl was inappropriate but I never knew in depth the things he was actually saying so I'd
always read that you know he'd said something inappropriate he'd said something that was wrong
but I'd never done a deep dive into it because fashion's not my world right but after seeing
jamila's post i did do a proper deep dive and it is very disturbing but one thing i do want to say
is that there were a couple of people that attended the met gala that they're saying attended as a
fuck you to carl they were taking the piss to carl now one of those people is lizzo why would they be
attending as a fuck you though well because you still want to go to the night of nights but you
want to make i get it you want to go to the night of nights like you don't want to be excluded
because like it's going to be a fun party but like you don't want to be excluded in hollywood
but you want to do a fuck you so Lizzo went and what they're saying is she purposely wore a
legafield silhouetted dress so it was lovely and beautiful and tight but then she posted and posed
eating french fries because Carl always talked about you know we just spoke about this fat phobia
he always talked about it should only be skinny people his outfit should only be worn on those
ludicrously thin and she was like he'll be rolling in his grave right now yes here I am with my big
you fuck exactly so there are some subtle things like that that i was like lizzo fucking yes well
i think as well because i mean on one hand there's the whole conversation of like is a boycott the
best way of protesting something like if all the celebrities were like we're not gonna go because
we don't agree with it i think you can go and support an event but i do love the idea that
like lizzo was like i want to go because i want to be at this and i also like fashion yeah i like
fashion but this is going to be a fuck you to the legacy not the legacy of fashion but the legacy of
bigotry that was left behind and I also think that this is quite interesting because so Barry
Humphries as we all know he recently passed away Barry Humphries was Dame Edna and he was a huge
Australian comedian and you know mostly I think across Australia a beloved Australian comedian
however he had some extremely controversial views when it came to trans people and was very
discriminatory I think sometimes we give people a bit of a pass card when they get old we're like
no it's not as bad when like an 80 year old says crazy bigoted things as what it is when someone
in their 30s does yes because it's almost like this well you should know better in this generation
totally that's what slapped with this generation as in like you can't teach an old dog new tricks
and we kind of give older people who have grown up in past generations a little bit more of a free
pass and I say this because like fuck my grandparents have said questionable things
do I hold them to the same standard that I hold my friends no but the reason for that is because
they grew up in a very very different time and I'm not going to try and educate my 86 year old
grandma who has dementia on why what she's saying is inappropriate I'm just going to let that pass
but would I say something to my friend absolutely but the reason why I bring up Barry Humphries as
an example is because so in 2019 and this is before he passed away obviously he was stripped
of the comedy award that he had. He had like a big name. It was called the MICF's main award.
I don't know what that is, but if you're a comedy person, you might. It was named after him. It was
the Barry Humphries award. And he was stripped of that because of the things that he had said
about trans people. I don't think in today's society that you're able to extrapolate art
from the artist, especially in terms of something like fashion, which fashion permeates so much of
our culture it permeates body image it permeates the way that 15 year old girls view themselves
it is aspirational it also is reflected back in music in movies in film so I think when you are
creating and you have such a strong and powerful hold over something that is actually so important
in society when you have problematic views like you are fat phobic or you are racist those things
permeate into that as well and I think that from a top down you can't say well let's celebrate the
artist but ignore the fact that he's done and said all these things I can't get my head around
what is happening in cancel culture in Hollywood because it's very selective but this is why I
think Jamila's post is so thought-provoking because it is selective and I've never thought
of it really until then I've thought we've always wanted to jump on as a society cancel culture and
we have spoken before that we don't really like cancel culture we don't believe in it I never
want to be a part of it I find discussions around it interesting but Jamila's whole post is so
interesting because she says this isn't about cancel culture and it isn't about Carl it's about
why we are so selective with who we want to cancel and when we want to cancel them and should we be
doing that and I find that an interesting discussion because it's very easy to just in
sort of addition to something you just said Laura but it's very easy to just hold on to
something negative or something bad that someone has done or said or a mistake they've made or
whatever I'm not making any specific examples here but then forget every good thing that they've ever
done or every nice thing they've ever done or every positive thing or every contribution to
society or their industry. It's very easy to forget all of that as soon as somebody slips
up and makes a mistake. Do you think that there are some people who are actually so powerful that
they're exempt from cancel culture or that they get to a status where they're so prolific in their
field or whatever it is and they have been so innovative in that field that therefore they're
not cancelable? Interestingly, if you asked me this one year, two years ago, I would have said
yes there absolutely are there are people that are untouchable but I don't think there are now
I think society's changed now where people are like I don't give a fuck who you are anymore
which is why it's so interesting that Carl's been celebrated well I don't know I feel like Carl
part of it as well as because he's a bit eccentric and batty and it's like cute it's his eccentricity
that makes people go and go oh you know but he's harmless and I think that that plays a part in
why he's kind of forgiven like he is this sort of like eccentric storyteller and we have seen that
as endearing and people have wanted to be close to him because then his immense spotlight is shined
on them as well models want to wear his clothes people want to work with him in fashion editorial
like he was such a huge and prolific person within the fashion industry that I think his
eccentricness and his creativity almost was the exemption for his bad behavior and I mean we do
see it in sport people who are incredible in their field incredible sportsmen are often given the
exemption pass when they behave badly because they're fucking amazing sports people so I do
think we see it but it is as Jamila said it is incredibly selective before we get into answering
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anything on my gov that that's like half an hour of your life is gone it's a very stressful
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you can figure it anyway apparently who knows i still don't know if you can figure it out through
my gov that's mine subscribe okay what's your subscribe my subscribe my vibe i have the worst
eyelashes and the reason for that is oh i reckon i'm run you for that title what i mean i like to
keep them don't fall out or anything but the reason why i don't think your eyelashes are
listening i don't know you were trying to tell me on tuesday's episode that if i don't talk nicely
to my plants they're gonna die so maybe my eyelashes but your plants are alive it's a
living organism true i can't wear mascara even though it's like the one thing that makes me
look awake and the reason for that is because I always get black like the black fall above and
below my eyes my eyelashes touch the top of my eyelids so I get those black marks saying that
your eyelashes are too long what a problem to have Laura it's horrible but I finally came across a
mascara which I'm loving because sometimes the tubular mascaras this is that makes me sound so
basic but I don't even care sometimes the tubular mascaras are too watery and they don't actually
make your lashes look thick enough but I found one that is like makes everything look thick and
beautiful and also it doesn't give you like mascara fall around your eyes so you don't look
at panda well i need that it's called what's the l'oreal but it is their lash paradise mascara
black it comes in a pink tube i'm reading it so that's why it sounds yeah it sounds sponsored
even though it's not yeah it's fucking great i've got bought two tubes and i gave one to my sister
yeah right from chemist from the chemist okay from chemist i've been going between
eyelashes fake eyelash extensions and not and every time i do it i like every couple of months
i get them and i'm like oh my god i look so much better they make such a difference to your face
like eyelashes change everything but then i get lazy i don't want to go back and infill them then
they fall out and i have one mega long lash for a long time so i definitely need to pick a lane
with my eyelashes yeah i'm off lash extensions because it looks great for two weeks and then
you look like as some sort of like half bald chicken you know when like when like chickens
get mites and and they've like lost half their feathers that's what you look like okay well my
vibe is this is a question i genuinely get asked a lot it's not me saying like you all want to
know. I genuinely get asked about my hair a lot. Now, in case you don't know, I'm very open about
it. I post about it. But in case you don't know, I have hair extensions. I have great length hair
extensions. I have short, thin hair. I don't have luscious natural hair. So I get hair extensions
more times than not. I have hair extensions in. Sometimes I have them out. I don't think I've
seen you without hair extensions in a long time. No, like a long time though. I don't remember who
you are without hair extensions. I mean, well, that's a good thing to know because it wasn't
that long ago I didn't have them in but anyway hair extensions mean for me I can wake up out of
bed and your hair generally just falls nicely like it always looks good it always looks healthy
people always like what do you use for your hair it's so healthy and lush it's not I don't use
anything it's just I use someone else's it's just hair extensions I obviously get good shampoo and
conditioner but that's my vibe like I'm outing myself I have hair extensions this is not real
and I will when I take them out eventually I'll show you the difference but I've got heaps of
reels on my instagram page of before and after hair extensions so if you do want to have a look
go have a little look see keisha actually has a vibe keisha what's the vibe this week well given
that yours was mascara and hair wasn't bringing a little bit of a class to the podcast our extensions
are class i listened to uh an episode of the daily it's a podcast by the new york times this is we're
really like upping the intelligence of the vibes this week wait all right fucking flex it's called
the Ballad of the Deepfake Drake. Do you guys remember, I think it was maybe two or three weeks
ago, this ghost writer was their name. They were basically an artificial intelligence music
producer, completely anonymous. And they basically made a fake artificial intelligence song that
sounded exactly like Drake. And it started charting. It was all over all of our social
media. So TikTok and Instagram, and it was all a little bit of fun and games where it was like,
oh, artificial intelligence, like it's taking over so much of the world, particularly with
like photos and what we can do but how is it impacting the music industry basically the music
labels like you think about universal music who drake is signed by it was a song that kind of
imitated drake and the weekend they essentially got involved because this song was going to start
making money it was on youtube it was on spotify and it was actually bringing in revenue and then
it's like who is the one who owns it but obviously i mean i think that that answer is pretty obvious
but I'm obviously not someone who works in any sort of AI law but surely it's Drake because the
reason why it should be Drake is because the only reason why it's making money is off his image.
If it was just some Joe Blow from the local service station who released that same song
it wouldn't be charting and it wouldn't make money. As it turns out no that's not the case
so artificial intelligence means that you can take the sound of someone but you also think
about in the music industry of like the songwriter or who creates the music behind it who creates the
riffs if you think about it in terms of photos it's like we had this really when social media
blew up who owns an image and they ended up kind of landing on well the person who took the photo
is the person who owns the image but this is a whole new world with music and the labels they're
not trying to get ahead of it and stop it because they know that they can't they're basically trying
to be like okay well if you're going to use our artists you need to give us a portion of the cut
100 imagine if someone was like oh hey it's not the real taylor swift but like here is
a whole new album that she's created and it sounds like her and it looks like her and it moves like
her and it shakes like her and then she's not making a single dollar from it. But interestingly,
some artists are on board with it. And this is what this whole podcast, this is why it's actually
like wildly interesting because people like Grimes are saying, you can totally use my voice.
This is the way that the world's going and I'm okay with it. To be clear, what's the vibe? The
podcast? Because like we've just done a whole podcast episode. What is the vibe, Keisha?
The specific podcast episode by The Daily called The Ballad of Deepfake Drake and I just find it
very interesting that like you know if someone had said something about music AI it would have
been like fucking boring but I was well interested by this whole episode and I think it's the future.
Did anybody see the article that came out not so long ago and it was an interview with Michael
Schumacher? So you know Michael Schumacher who obviously is and has been in a coma and has not
done any media since his horrific accident because he's unable to from his injuries.
there was an AI created interview with him that was like these are the answers he would have given
if he could it's so disrespectful it's so exploitive anyway that's yeah look that's a
whole other conversation for a whole other day all right it is time to answer finally your deep
your dark and your burning questions I'm gonna hit it off I have a request for all of you dog
owners out there how many how many of you let your dog sleep on your bed if so how do you have sex
solo or with a partner is it a bit of a mood killer having to stop lock your dog outside
listen to a cry for being locked outside do your thing and then just let it back in the bed when
you should be spooning do you bone with we've talked about this put it outside so funny that
you wrote this question in I don't have sex so I haven't actually had sex at home in a long time
but I would rather I don't want my dog in there but I'm lucky that my dog won't sit at the door
and cry either but if my dog oh Keisha says yes she does Keisha has told a whole story on this
podcast before about how she was getting railed and Delilah was outside like I think that has
more to do with Keisha's sound effects than anything Delilah probably thought she was part
of the club and they're all like howling together like maybe she thought you were getting murdered
keisha she thought you were dying she was worried about you that's all it was she had separation
anxiety but i would rather if the choices are your dog sitting there staring at you watching
you go hell for leather or sitting outside crying i'd rather them quietly watch me get
railed yeah i would rather watch my dog's very quiet buster is he's so he's so silent he's just
like the sweetest most silent he could walk into a room and you wouldn't even know that he's there
even though he's a giant many a times he's just walked in and sat there and you finish and he's
just sitting there watching like what are you doing this is the awkward thing that's a bone
i only learned that this week is that dogs actually do judge their owners on their behavior the way
they act empathy selfishness it's actually a thing so when you think that your dog is there
watching you they are they're genuinely judging your maneuvers in the bedroom i don't think they're
judging your performance they might be judging you as a person they're not like girl get out of
starfish you need to actually start doing something get up on your hands and knees
give this some work work for it do it like i do it he's like this is how it's done i think it is
fine to have sex with your dog in the room should your dog be on the bed no no that's weird especially
if they start like licking a limb or something okay well if it starts licking your little toe
or something well then how do you know who it is maybe you think you know if your partner's face
is in your face or if they're down there you'd know i think it's fine i think look if they're
gonna sit at the door and scream and cry that's a child if they're gonna sit at the door and how
that is a bit of a mood killer but why don't you if you know that you're gonna have someone over
and have sex with them why don't you like create some sort of distraction for your dog get them a
treat get one of those stupid dummy thingies that you shove peanut butter in the kong things yeah
but that takes away if you're spontaneously in the moment having sex you're like hang on let me
peanut butter up this conk let me go get my dog it's a bit of a moment killer isn't it yeah but
you get the peanut butter out and they're like oh yeah shit's going down and then you just start
wiping on a salivary dog toy and then you go wash your hands and come back to the bedroom i don't
know i just think there's no one way that is going to be the most romantic way with this situation
like if you've got a dog that has like attachment issues and wants to be in the bedroom with you
you're always going to have to deal with that just like if you've got kids and they've got
attachment issues you've got to try and organize the time of which you have sex so that your kids
aren't standing at the door going mommy and daddy what are you doing i think it's just kind of maybe
a little bit of forward planning maybe the spontaneity of sex can't be there as much as
what you would like all right well ben's here in three weeks so i'll update you on the sex with a
dog thing see how delilah goes down not compared to keisha's situation when she has let's just be
very clear sex with the dog in the house in the room oh yeah i really think we needed to clarify
the next thing there's a daily mail article and it's like britney's updating us on sex with the
dog far out that wouldn't surprise me all right would you date someone with the same name as your
sibling or dad i previously dated a guy with the same name as my brother and if that wasn't awkward
enough i met a guy on the weekend and we had an amazing time together but i don't think i can take
it any further simply because he has the same name as my dad is this robbing myself of my time with
someone who could be a potential partner or is it too weird what are your thoughts would you date
someone with the same name as your dad bro if you are excluding people from your dating lineup
because they have the same name as someone in your family that is crazy okay but but picture this
picture this imagine you're like they're on top of you they're deep inside you and then you're like
yeah fuck me tony i don't have to imagine it i've dated multiple people with my brother's name this
just screams to me that you don't have daddy issues in the way that i also it's someone's
name you guys are crazy if you've met the love of your life or someone that could be your partner
and you don't date them because they have the same name i have dated so my brother's name is
a mitch and dane i've dated three mitches oh see she got brother issues and had a huge well it's
a very common name guys it's a very common name and also had crashes on people with the name dane
in the past i never dated a dane can i just say this dane is such a naughty boy name like all
Dane's a naughty he was naughty and my Dane's very naughty I've never met a Dane who's actually
turned out to not be a naughty kid or like a naughty adult they're always naughty my brother
Dane's naughty but I think this is dumb I think it's hard enough to meet your person or somebody
that you actually vibe and connect with and if you're adding their name as a red flag to your
list then I think that that's ridiculous you're shooting yourself in the foot that's my opinion
I've done this explain why explain the what wait I think more context to this okay I think it's
different she's like met him already and then she had a beautiful time yeah fucking date your dad
it's fine but if you were on tinder and you haven't met them yet you have no connection to
them they're just hot and then terry comes up i'm not gonna click on terry all i can think of is my
dad out in a fishing boat i wouldn't click on terry but not because of the uh dad she's just
what if he's really hot and his name's terrence this is happening to me oh god it's my dad
genuinely i think i was on a dating app and my dad's name is craig and someone super attractive
came up and i was like he is a magical creature saw the name and i was like nope keisha this is
keisha i don't know why i'm single i can't meet anyone also keisha don't like the name don't like
the name oh god that guy looks like he probably gets up at 5am in the morning this morning about
a date she went on and she was like you should have seen the shoes he wore though and i was like
keisha rein it in when he decided to look past the shoes unless he's wearing shoes that have like
the toes in them that's probably where you can draw a line if he's wearing balanced shoes we're
getting very off track okay I want to know whether you'll date your dad apparently Brit's fine with
it that is not the question the question is not would you date your dad the question is would
you date someone that has the same name as someone in your family and if you are ruling out these
people I personally unless you absolutely detest or have a very traumatic association with that
name like it's crazy to me if you're ruling out people because they have a name similar to someone
your family if it's deeper than that I totally understand it if every time you think of that
name or say it it triggers you that is the only time I can understand it but if you're just like
an average go-getter family and you're ruling those people out I mean your own worst enemy
is what I think I mean I do like how you've taken the question so seriously I am I take this I take
my advice to you listeners very seriously and I love love and I want you to all fall in love and
I don't want you to be excluding people because of their name yeah but to be fair I reckon your
dad would have been hot when he was young though he was hot yeah yeah caring as well my dad was
like a lifeguard you would triathlete he had long blonde pony tail yeah you probably still would
kiss your sicko yeah so see you have no problems with dating someone named terry i mean tony
i have daddy issues sorry dad what's your dad's name craig we established that so you've not
and wouldn't date a craig no there's not many 30 year olds walking around with the name craig
though my brother's name is kai and i wouldn't date a kai either it's just too weird for me
like to me I'm like there's just too much connection okay so your penguin waddles along
and the name's Craig you could not have written or put this creature together more perfectly for
you you would not date him because his name's Craig has he got a middle name could we go by
that can I like I mean here's a bit of self-admission like my brother's name is Matt
and I'm married to a Matt well then why are you taking the piss because I think it's my brother's
real name's Matthias but I don't look at Matt and at no point was I like oh my god that's my
brother's name but if I did meet someone because Matt's so common Matt is the most common name
but if I did meet a guy named Terry and I was dating him I think it depends on how old manish
the name is yeah but that's I can't even have a conversation with you like you're just contradicting
yourselves that has to do with their age not their name you just admit it you just went against it
laughing then you're like well actually I am dating my brother's name no no you're the prime
example no no no no you've misunderstood I have no issue with brothers it's dads I have an issue
with oh my god well i look the answer for me is just date him date who yes date somebody with a
name similar unless it's really going to trigger you but it shouldn't be triggering you because
they share the same name let's get into the next question okay last question i am 19 years of age
and currently working child care full-time my workplace is all female who the majority are moms
i work in the same room as this 37 year old who acts like she's in high school she gossips she
bags and talk shit about other workers and she loves to be overly overpowering in the workplace
me being the overthinking person I am I'm constantly worried she's talking shit and
it's affecting my confidence in my ability at work I feel so much toxicity in my workplace
but I can't financially take the risk and leave what should I do I mean firstly I would just be
applying for other jobs that would be what I would start I think at 19 I mean this is probably
one of your first full-time like full-time serious jobs and careers I don't think you need to stay or
work in a place where you feel like the culture is terrible and there's like crippling toxicity
because I actually think that that's a culture that's too hard to change and unless you address
the situation which can be very challenging with your employer you can go obviously you can speak
to an employer you can explain to them what's happening with this woman but to change that
will take a lot of time and is that going to change I don't know I would say for me I would
probably start putting feelers out for other places to work because you should never work in
an environment where you feel that it is that toxic that you have anxiety about going to work
I agree but what I'm going to say is not necessarily something I agree with because I don't
but it's something that I've learned in my 35 years and working in a lot of workplaces I have
left a workplace before I quit because of workplace bullying because of the toxic environment and I'm
a confident person in myself and my abilities so no one just to put it out there no one is
necessarily exempt from feeling that way so I don't want you to think that it's you at all
because it's not I felt the environment was so bad I always felt like I and other people were
being judged people would be in tears it wasn't nice so and I told the boss when I left she said
can I ask why you're leaving you know obviously it's sad to lose you and I said in complete
honesty it's the environment there are some real bullies here and I don't like it and I don't feel
comfortable. Unfortunately, don't think people ever grow out of it. I have friends in their 50s
and 60s who have spoken to me not that long ago about the same thing, bullying and bitching in
an environment. And I said to them, I was like, wow, I always just thought I only need a couple
more years and you're going to grow out of that. Like it gets to a point where you're an adult and
you think that adults act like adults, but they don't. And one thing I did learn is that it doesn't
necessarily matter where you work or how old you are. Unfortunately, there are always going to be
these kind of people in an environment if it's pushing you to the point where you just you're
beside yourself and you can't go to work I 100% leave and find another environment because they're
not all when I say bitchiness you don't grow out of it that doesn't necessarily mean people
constantly take it to work but what I'm saying is it's not necessarily something where you're like
I'm going to go work with people that are in their 50s because they're going to be better they
probably will be better in a big capacity but I think it's something that we have to accept in
ourselves sometimes that I'm not going to let somebody else make me feel uncomfortable. I know
my worth. I know what I do. I know what I bring to the job. And it's easier said than done to
internalize that and say, I'm just going to put my head down and do it. I'm not saying that's the
answer. I'm just saying there does come a time where you have to accept that some people are
always going to be those people. Some people are never going to outgrow that bitchiness.
Yeah, I agree that there are people who are never going to outgrow the bitchiness. I absolutely
agree. But I do think it comes down to the culture in a workplace. And it also comes down to
who is in senior management in that place is this person who works in this child care center being
that she's 37 has she been there for a lot longer is she the director of the child care center is
she the manager of the room the problem is is that of course in workplaces these things shouldn't
exist but they do exist in some places and it is really really fucking hard especially when you're
at the bottom of the rank when you're at the bottom of the rank you can't change the culture
of a company you can't change the culture of your employment it has to come from the top down so you
can make them aware of it but your ability to change it is very very small and I think and I
speak of this from my own experience when I worked before I started my own businesses I worked for
a company it was a printing company in Epping I worked for them for quite a long time and it was
horrendously toxic and because it was my very first real experience of employment outside of
university I thought that that was kind of normal and that I had to just grit and bear it and I did
grit and bear it for two years and then I quit and I eventually started working somewhere else
and it was almost like someone had turned the fucking lights on I was like oh my god this is
what it is to work in a company who appreciates me and doesn't treat me as though like they're
doing me a favor by employing me so I really do think that if you're going to work and it's
causing you constant anxiety nobody is paying you enough for that like that there is no job that's
giving you I mean maybe it's millions and millions of dollars but I'm going to guess if you're working
in child care you're not making that much money in comparison to the amount of stress that it's
causing you and so you shouldn't be taking that home you shouldn't be worried about coming to
work and working alongside these people so I would say if you feel confident enough the first thing
is to speak to someone who maybe is in a HR position but if it's a very small business it
may not even have a HR position so I think sometimes the best thing to do is start to look
what other opportunities exist. I think also in those situations when you're talking about
someone's behavior at work especially with something that's like a bitchy toxic vibe
it's so hard to put into words because a lot of the time it's like oh it's the way she said it
it's not like she's turning up to work late or going home early or like treating a kid bad in
the daycare center so if you're going to someone in a position of management or whatever and being
like I just think she's a bit of a cow she speaks badly about people they're going to be like well
what are some examples of this? It's actually something that's quite hard to say because a lot
of it is implication, you know, in those situations. Otherwise you just sound like
you're complaining about these very meaningful things, but when they're happening to you every
day, they really add up. And the only thing that I would give as advice, like whether you're able
to get another job or not, I think that with people like that in the workplace, the most that
you can distance yourself personally from them. So all of your conversation, just keep it very
professional about work because the less they know about you and the less they know about your
personal life the less they can use against you I was going to say the same thing bullying and
being uncomfortable in an environment is subjective right it's different for everyone
and like you just said Keisha sometimes and sometimes for me in the past it's been
nothing I can put my finger on it's the way someone looks at you it's a look and what are
you gonna you can't go and say I just feel like that looked at me funny today so it's been at the
end of the day it's what makes you feel uncomfortable if you know that she's talking
inappropriately about other people even if you know you're going to leave 100 go and tell the
boss there is a manager at the end of the day even if there's three people that work there
there's a manager there is someone you can go and tell go and tell them that you're uncomfortable
by what they're saying it is their job to then go and speak to that person and they do not have to
say there is a level of anonymity they do not have to go and say sarah came and said you've been
talking badly they're not going to do that they're going to say look there's been a complaint that
you've been saying some inappropriate things i think you shouldn't be forced out yet there are
steps to take first I would make an official complaint that you are uncomfortable by things
that they're saying if it doesn't get better of course look for something different no one goes
to work and feels uncomfortable you do what is right for you at the end of the day but I wouldn't
go in I mean like and I'm going to say this in today's economy you can't unfortunately not many
people are in a position where they can go and quit without another job so put your feelers out
now start having a look because you want to go and you want to be comfortable in your environment
But do not leave, I mean, this is just me,
do not leave without telling them why
because otherwise we don't break the cycle, do we?
The next person, the next young girl that's 19
and fresh out of uni or school comes in
and the same thing happens.
So even if you did what I did
where I never made an official complaint,
I was lucky enough to find another job,
but I 100% told them the honest truth
as while I was leaving
because I wanted that to be known.
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