Life Uncut - BACH UNCUT BONUS - debunking the rumours with Jay

Episode Date: September 2, 2021

Last night we said goodbye to Chess girl, our business class babe and Matty J's pick for the season Jay!Jay debunks all the rumours from the season, how she felt about being thrown under the bus by Steph and the truth behind her past relationship with New Zealand's Bachelor.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hi guys and welcome to a very special little sexy bonus episode where I'm right and Matty Johnson's wrong because Jay unfortunately went home. How does it feel Matt? Look it's very disappointing. I know that Jay's had a heartbreak in here which yes that is disappointing in its own sense but more importantly I'm wrong. I've lost the bet. I lost to Laura Byrne and I hate losing. It sucks. I wish we'd made the bet something more substantial. It was $50 and I guarantee I'll never see that $50. Was it even $50? I'm pretty sure that we had a bet whoever one gets sex i was like i would prefer sleep please so the good news is laura you're getting laid tonight lucky me anyway guys on today's episode we are interviewing jay who if you saw

last night's bachelor episode she went home jimmy kicked it to the curb see you later chess girl i don't think we've ever had one contestant that's been plagued by so many rumors it was like every week there was something new so we have a lot to debunk with our lovely little jay we even find out the jay is not a real name anyway guys let's get into the chat with jay we have our normal batch uncut episode coming to you tomorrow and friday and we've also got a couple of other sexy little bonus episodes in store for you as well getting a little bit emotional it's the home run it's uh the last few strides until we cross the finish line and then it's all over what are you going to do with yourself when you're no longer behind the microphone? Don't know. Good question.

Clean. It would be nice. Probably not clean. I'll still keep thinking. I'm sure something will pop up and grab me. Well, look, don't spend too much time thinking about it. And in the meantime, let's get into the interview with Jay. Jay, welcome to Life on Card. Thank you for having me. Matt, how are you feeling? Jay, I'm annoyed. You're annoyed? Why are you annoyed? You owe me 50 bucks because that's what I've got to pay Laura. What? Did you? Laura, did you think I wasn't gonna win i see i picked holly on the day one we put our bets down and i was like i reckon it's blondie and matt was like nah chess girl she's my girl and then you know what sorry you've been a real problem in our house jay i'm so sorry to let you down i'm very disappointed it's not my

fault blame jimmy bloody jimmy mate we're coming for you jay look we do have a couple of things that we want to debunk there now there's been a lot of rumors that have been flying around yeah my god and i feel like this is the opportunity that you can use to clear the air so let's just like hit them one by one okay first up is your name actually jane no it's jacinta fuck more lies sorry guys sorry just bring this on you no my name's actually jacinta and i had to give a nickname because i don't know if you guys remember but there was a girl at the beginning who also had the same name as me which is so weird because jacinta's not very common. I'll be honest. I don't remember that other Jacinta, but I had the same problem

because we had two Matts. And so I had to be called a nickname, which is why I was called Matty J. Ah, do you go like, do you prefer Matty J or Matt? Well, now it's just kind of become the norm, but it does feel a little bit immature when you're in your mid thirties and you've got two kids and you're like, Hey, I'm Matty J. It's just his stage name. I like Matty J. And I like J as well thanks all right guys stop it i'm still here i know that's been very excited about doing this interview with you jay okay so let's just hit these from the top jay do you want to have kids oh my god this is this was probably the most annoying rumor because i really really really want kids and if my mom ever found out that i didn't want kids should kill me so yeah i do

want kids and i'm 32 so i kind of want kids soon all right jay's mom don't worry okay you're gonna to be a nana one day next question do you actually play chess I do I do do you guys play no I watch the queen's gambit I don't think anyone played that yeah I learned probably about four years ago so I haven't played growing up or anything and I just got obsessed with it I love it it's so much fun I'm not very good with games in general I don't have the patience for these sorts of things and Matt you just keep hijacking it not actually debunking the real rumors that We came here to debunk. These aren't actually the rumors that we needed to get to the bottom of.

These are ones that are just popping up randomly in my head. But, yeah, the baby one, when that started, I got a little bit nervous. At that point, I was still going really hard on the fact that I thought you were going to win. But I thought, hey, one little speed bump in the road, not a major issue. We can get past this. And I think the next rumor after that was it. Did you actually want to come second? Yes.

Tani's rumor. yeah this is also another funny one because I just don't know how coming second would be better than winning I don't think like having your heart broken on national television is better than you know falling in love I mean it turned out okay for Maddie J but apart from him sometimes sometimes coming second it's actually quite beneficial in the long run oh really oh wow okay so that's another thing also and probably one of the biggest mistakes I made going onto the shows. I didn't really watch The Bachelor Australia. I think I only ever watched the first season with Anna and Tim years and years and years ago. So even if that

was a thing, I wouldn't have even known. And I probably should have watched more episodes before actually going onto the TV show. You know what, to be fair though, I made that same mistake. I didn't really watch any of The Australian Bachelor before I went on the show. And I almost think that it made me more resistant to the process like it was actually it was detrimental to my experience because I was like everyone here is trying to fuck with me instead of just being able to give into the process a little bit more yeah I just want to double check Jay did you say it as a joke potentially talking about when you wanted to come second like and you know when you say hey if I don't win it's not all bad maybe you know I'll come runner up and that'll suit me just fine did

did you throw it out there as a bit of a self-defense mechanism perhaps 100 that never came out of my mouth and i would never ever say that so no okay and i'll stick to that too i'll take that to my grave i never said that and i would never say that even as a joke all right we're debunking the rumors here we're now the last one and this isn't a rumor it's the one that came up last night on the show and it was seemed to be like the next kind of hurdle that you guys had to overcome. Obviously at hometowns, one of your close friends talked to Jimmy about how you had dated someone who was in the public eye. And then last night on your very special, like last final date, you had to have the conversation that the person you had dated was actually the bachelor

of New Zealand. Yeah. This is crazy. Okay. So it turns out you've seen the bachelor, but just not the Australian version. Now, did you guys date before he was the bachelor or after he was the bachelor yeah so I dated him literally when I was 26 and I'm 32 now he became the bachelor well it was released that he was the bachelor five days before I went into filming for the bachelor Australia so it was all a huge coincidence and I dated the guy for a couple of months it wasn't like quite a significant relationship in my life so I found this so irrelevant I just don't know why it was made such a big deal of I think it's really interesting though because the way that it came across when with and maybe it did partly go with the editing because I felt like there was

more to that conversation that we actually saw what happened but the way it came across was that you guys had dated after he was the bachelor and that the reason why you had dated was because oh like you know it's so attractive to date the bachelor but now obviously this is somebody who's from far in your past so I'm I feel like this we've debunked the rumors Matt I feel good about this but when you were 26 did you have any kind of feeling that maybe he would become the bachelor in the future six years down the track yeah you know what yeah I predicted that he would be the bachelor in six years time and then I would go on to the bachelor Australia I just yeah I can tell the future guys so that storyline pretty much sucked up almost the entire date that you and

Jimmy had oh is that how it played out or was that just a small portion of what you guys talked about to be honest that was a very memorable part of that date for me because it caught me off guard I had no idea he was gonna ask me about that because it was so irrelevant so I do feel like it was a big part of the date unfortunately but prior to that I think all the rumors that surrounded me were over exaggerated on tv because there were a lot of really nice moments that Jimmy and I had that weren't shown which was a bit upsetting but I guess it wasn't dramatic enough I don't know no it definitely felt like each date and I think like from the tennis date that you guys had it felt like each date a component of your date was you having to like defend yourself

or protect yourself or debunk something that had happened you said like that you didn't really feel like that was a big part did you at the time did you really feel like you were having to defend yourself at each point along the way or did you kind of feel like you guys were able to have this natural progression to your relationship from the tennis so the tennis date was actually fine I was like the way they showed the tennis date looked really bad and that we just spoke about the rumor about him hearing that I didn't want to have kids but that was the tiniest part of that date we literally played tennis we laughed we talked about our feelings that was probably one of my favorite dates I had with Jimmy which was a shame because all you saw from that was

literally the rumor so yeah a lot of things like that happened which was upsetting but I guess it is what it is I've got to ask Jay your friend from your hometown date who brought up your famous ex have you since spoken to her and gone what the fuck did you do that for yeah it's a hard one to talk about to be honest but I have spoken to her since were you surprised last night like when we watched it you seemed like you were surprised when Jimmy didn't choose you did you feel like how did you feel in that moment I had an inkling that he wasn't going to pick me that night just because the last date he was still questioning my integrity so I kind of prepared myself to not get a rose that night but there was a little voice in the back of my head saying maybe you're wrong

maybe you will so part of me knew I was going home and part of me was hoping that I wasn't going to go home so it was a weird one because I kind of prepared for it but you kind of can't prepare for it in a way because yeah I don't know you always hope for the best yeah I think there is like I mean obviously like I'm lucky Matt and I are still together but I think like just just hanging these batch on cuts have really done it to us no but I think you go into those situations and you like expect the worst but hope for the best it's the only way to protect your heart like you almost can't go in there with the blind faith that it's going to be you because it's so 50 50 you know it's it's so difficult to kind of feel confident in that environment how did you feel about Jimmy

at that point in time like where were you at with your actual feelings towards him I obviously I really really really liked him and you can tell from when I left I forgot because it's been so long since we filmed I forgot how I felt about him back then but watching that last night brought back all those feelings and it reminded me that I did really like the guy and I could see a future with him so yeah it was it was hard to watch last night in your defense if you did really want to make it to the runner-up position you should have just said I love you I know it seems as though it's the only one that didn't say it so do you think Jimmy in any way sent you home at number three just so you didn't get that runner-up position that people were talking about you know

what I wouldn't be surprised it would have looked so bad if I'd come runner-up you mentioned watching it back you were feeling a little bit sad last night and it does bring up sort of like I know it's been a lot quite a while since the filming actually happened and then watching it back on tv now it kind of throws you back into all of those feelings but how did you feel watching that the entire season back do you feel like it was edited in a way that you would have expected was there anything that surprised you watching this season back i think yeah like the way i was portrayed i guess caught me off guard i didn't i think a lot of the good moments that jimmy and i had weren't show on and a lot of me on the show was just basically trying to defend myself yeah it was

almost the midway point where things started to turn because at the start and that's what and that's why I thought that you were going to win because you had this dream run the start the red carpet was perfect you then got the business class lounge and then every time you're in the lounge you had these awesome activities planned and I was like this girl's a shoo-in of course she's going to win after your first date which was like one of the most impressive dates where you guys had like the race cars and I don't know I kind of it was like literally like land sea scat like everything the jet ski as well it was incredible and and that kind of like was the one date of the season that really felt like true bachelor style you know like Jimmy had pulled out all the big

guns literally for this date and I wasn't even aware of this but when we did one of the batch uncut episodes Matt sort of said you know when you're super into a girl that's the girl that you save the really exciting expensive dates for and oh that's good that's good to know coming off the back of that day at that point in time how did you feel going back into the mansion were you feeling really confident were you like this I could be the girl at the end here yeah after that day I definitely felt that way and that made my feelings a lot stronger towards him as well because like going into the business lounge you get this uninterrupted time but you're still conscious of the other girls you're feeling a little bit bad that you're taking the time I don't know did you

feel like that when you were on it did you feel conscious of the other girls the whole time or We didn't have anything that was the equivalent to a business class lounge. So it was always kind of up to no girl got special treatment where she could get uninterrupted time. So it's a little bit different on our season. Yeah, we had a thing called the secret garden and we weren't able to take Matt there. Matt would choose one girl and take them there. So it was a lot more evenly distributed. But I took you there a fair bit.

Yeah, it was always like. I was like, come on, let's go back. Yeah, come on. I think you took every girl to the secret, like every single chick on our season got a time in the secret garden. it wasn't that secret. But knowing like from the very beginning that you had this like preferential treatment and that you did have the business class lounge, how did you feel your relationship was with the girls in the house? Did you feel a little bit like there was a target on your back? And I think almost seeing how many times you were kind of thrown under the bus,

it did feel like maybe there was some animosity in the house with you and the other girls. Yeah. Initially I thought that I didn't have a target on my back. I felt like I had good relationships with all of the girls because I'm a real girl's girl and I would never put a guy in front of girls. And I would always want Jimmy to like me for me, not because I was fighting another girl to get him, if that makes sense. So I had a good relationship with most of the girls in the house. In fact, all of the girls in the house, I thought, and it wasn't until the rumors surfaced that I realized that I did have a target on my back. So I think I was a little bit naive in that sense. Did Steph reach out prior to that episode, making it on air to

say hey Jay just so you know I kind of said this thing that you didn't want to have kids or did you find out for the first time when it was on air? I found out for the first time on air so I had absolutely no idea that she said that about me. At first Steph and I wasn't really friends with Steph I didn't really know her that well and like she'd said a couple of things that I didn't quite agree with but as time went on and I got to know her we actually became really good friends so when I saw that on the episode I was like what the hell and she messaged me she's like oh my god I'm so sorry she was like I said that when I didn't really know you and I was like oh my god you're like you fucking started this pal you started all of this but also I guess like you

also had quite a strenuous relationship with Tani after the the Bushdorf date where everyone went camping and that's where things really unfolded with the whole conversation around whether or not you wanted to come second and whether or not that conversation even took place have you spoken to Tani since have you guys been able to reconcile anything or did it really just end kind of the way that we saw it on tv yeah it just ended that way and I just the way she handled it I just didn't think that she was someone that I would want to continue a friendship with I don't have any hard feelings towards her just probably not my type of person to be friends with really she did cost you a boyfriend I guess she did what she felt like she had to do to stay in I think so I mean it is

what it is I'm not like I don't have any hard feelings to her at all Jay what do you think was the most challenging part of the whole experience I think the hardest thing was when you'd go on a date and you can probably relate you go on a date well when I went on a date with Jimmy and you just have such an amazing day and then the next day you're on a group date and you see him with other girls and you're like oh and then he kind of doesn't treat you the same as he treated you when you went on that single day and you're like oh this is weird like yeah I found that the hardest there was this one I mean for anyone who doesn't remember it was a group date where it was like a obstacle course challenge group date and Jay you had an advantage you were

like winning you were slaying the obstacle course and part of this advantage was that you got a five second head start because you'd gotten the red flag anyway we're all attracted to red flags so you got the red flag you got the five second head start and then you gave it to ash which then is what saw ash ending up winning that whole challenge and winning the extra time with jimmy now i have a couple of questions around this firstly in that moment and on that day did you realize kind of like what sacrifice you had made like did you regret that decision and also what was like the vibe like in the house afterwards was jimmy really as frustrated as he seemed on tv i didn't think that jimmy was as frustrated as he seemed on tv i still don't know because what i

saw what happened in real life was so different to what i'm seeing on tv so i actually don't know how he was genuinely feeling we'll start back with the advantage ash and i had a pact so we were gonna make sure we were top two right up until the last flag and then it was free for all also i'm being cocky here but i still thought i was gonna win even though i gave it the five second advance I thought even if she did win over me I was okay with that because I shared a room with Ash and she was my best friend in the house and she'd duck up for me a lot of the times to Jimmy with the rumors as well so I felt like I owed her but not only that like every morning she hadn't seen Jimmy for I think it's about eight weeks and she'd be so sad every morning just

I don't know what my connection is what am I even doing here Jay and like that breaks my heart so I was thinking look I'm happy to give up an hour so she can figure out whether she should be here or not because for me it was about quality not quantity and I think I was I was okay for her to have that time why didn't you just fake an injury just like pretend your knees gone and then you could fall into the water but I'm I'm quite competitive so I still wanted to win but anyway she won in the end and I and I actually don't regret that and I wouldn't I wouldn't change that Jay, what is next for you? Have you started dating again? Are you back at work? What has life been like since The Bachelor stopped filming and now that you're able to get a

little taste of freedom again? I know. I feel so free now. Like since that last episode when I left, I just felt such a weight lift off my shoulders. So I work in insurance, but I've also been building my nutrition business. So I'm focusing on that and I'm still single. We've been on lockdown so it's really hard to meet anyone to be honest so yeah i'm single been really cramping the dating style yeah you guys don't have to worry about that though we're pretty lucky but at the same time we're like on the other end of the spectrum where we would like some time apart sometimes oh my god we're like the totally we're like uh when can lockdown live so that we can spend a day away from each other i love do you know what i stopped because i didn't i didn't

watch your season on the bachelor but i stalked you guys and i love you guys so much like i want a partner oh jay stop it matt we love you too don't worry who's your favorite both of you together all right matt we all know who your favorite is stop actually no mainly jay because you picked me yeah there we go all right well this is awkward isn't it hey jay before we go i am keen to know have you spoken to jimmy since no we're not allowed to but the good thing is jimmy does listen to the podcast so if there's anything you would like to say to jimmy i'm sure he's going to be listening the floor is yours no I just wish him all the best and and good luck with whoever he chooses my very last question is when you left the house I mean I feel like things can

change after you've watched the show back but when you left on that night who did you think it was going to be between Brooke and Holly uh when I left that night I 100% thought it was going to be Brooke what made you think that I just think he wouldn't bring her back from a situation like that if he wasn't going to pick her and even watching the show because I don't know what their connection I don't really know what their connection is when I'm in the experience because I don't see it but watching the show it just looks like he loves her so much and even though she's telling him things that he probably doesn't want to hear he just keeps her so I don't know I just feel like he really really likes her so I'm thinking it's going to be her but I have no I don't

even know who wins this is exactly like us every episode we're like guys we have no idea we are just here to speculate. And honestly, Jay, thank you so much for coming and being a part of the podcast. We have loved, we've really, really enjoyed watching this season. We've loved watching you. Matt's still devastated and he owes me $50. So I want to thank you even more from the bottom of my heart. But also we're just so glad you can get out and live your best life now. Get back to dating. I know. Oh my God. I'm so happy. Thank you for having me. It's been a pleasure. Thank you, jay even though i'm trying to not be disappointed but i'm glad that you're you seem really happy yeah i am you're actually making me feel really bad now why i have really let you down

not at all no hard feelings you know what maybe i'll go on to the american we'll be there we'll be recapping don't you worry take care jay thanks so much legend bye well there you have it jay has departed the building and now i'm trying to figure out who will win she says brooke i say holly i mean there's still time to change your mind laura you don't have to go with holly the whole way through now is a better time than ever to change your mind right before the finish line do you think it's going to be holly still it's the whole dog that's who it is i'm ready i'm gonna take it all the way down to holy town just because just because i like to disagree with you i'm gonna go with brooke mate

your team is out of the match you don't get to just jump on for the finals and pick another team no no i get to change my mind and i'm gonna lock in brooke if i may perfect i can't wait for you to lose twice anyway guys that is it from us we have our batch uncut coming out tomorrow morning 6 a.m fresh and early i'm sure i will have a few wines before we record that episode tonight Laura having a few wines? Shut up. That seems so strange. Why would you do that?

Maybe I'll go and get some jalapeno margaritas from up the road. Shut up. It's a finale night. It's a celebration. They're very strong. And we will be in your libraries at 6am and we'll also have interviews with number one and number two coming out over the weekend as well.

But in the meantime, you know the drill. Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your friends, tell your sister, tell your brother, tell your uncle, tell your cousin, tell your dog, tell your fish. Just be quiet because Marley's asleep. We don't want to wake her up. Oh, and share the love because we love love.