Life Uncut - Britt's an Outlaw, Dummy Fairies and Correctile Dysfunction

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

Hey Lifers! It's Laura's birthday!!! She had a beautiful message from the most special two girls (definitely her kids and not Britt and Keeshia)! There are revelations about our years on this Earth and we want to wish our happiest birthday the most wonderful human we know! Laura's home has had a visit from the dummy fairy and we've all entered a new chapter! Britt has found herself in some hot water with the law which has led to a lot of surrendering and the need for a screw driver. Who is truly at 'fault' is still up for debate! Hilaria Baldwin and Alec Baldwin had an awkward exchange on the red carpet. They've gone on to joke about this being 'manturrupting' 'correctile dysfunction'. How do you feel about celebrities owning businesses and adding to their already existing wealth? Tina Fey recently sparked debate by criticising the trend of ultra-wealthy people launching their own businesses, particularly in industries where they lack expertise in industries like skincare, fashion, wellness, or alcohol.We share our thoughts and where we think the line is! You can watch us on Youtube Find us on Instagram Join us on tiktok Or join the Facebook Discussion Group Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! XxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode was recorded on Camaragal land. Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. I'm Brittany. And I have had minimal to no sleep. I don't want to hear you complain because I did just offer to strip for you. I know. For your birthday.

It is your birthday today. We should start with that. Happy birthday. Oh yeah. Sorry, we're recording this a day in advance. It's actually my birthday tomorrow. Yeah, but for everyone else, it's Laura's birthday today. 24.

Guys, I'm 39. Wow. I'm 39. Keisha, you just look horrified. Sorry, that wasn't why I was looking horrified. I'm trying to connect my laptop because I've got something for you, but I just realized I wasn't as prepared as I should have been. 39.

I know. I went for dinner. Laura's not prepared either for 39. No, 39 feels okay still. actually to be fair I'm not worried about aging like I'm not frightened about turning 40 I'm just surprised I've arrived at the desk I'm just surprised that I've arrived at the wow why can't I speak it's because you're 39 oh my god guys it happens I am surprised that I have arrived at the destination so quickly that's what I'm worried about I'm worried that like life is

moving too fast and then soon I'll be 80 and dead big jump halfway to 80 guys almost halfway to 78 I know. I learned this the other day. You are halfway. When you turn 39, it's your 40th year of life. People don't think about it. They're like, oh, it's my 39th year. It's not. You've already hit your 40th year, but we call it 39. This is kind of how they do the whole elevator floors where it's like ground or first floor. And then in some places, first floor is the actual ground floor. And you know what I mean? Well, Laura's going to the penthouse. I have a question. When you say you only just realized this the other day. Yeah. You only just realized that you don't call

one one until you've turned it. But not that you don't realize, but you don't think about it. You just say 39 and you think you're 39 but when you actually think oh it's that means I'm actually 40. I'll explain to you guys why I'm so tired in a second. I know I feel like at the moment that I'm complaining a lot at the start of these episodes. It's been a big couple of weeks. I'll tell you why later. Well before we get into that we have heard from two people that are really really instrumental in your life. They love you so much. It is not In fact, no, it's Ben. We have a little birthday message for you.

Hi, Mummy. Happy birthday. It's Mummy's birthday. Hi, Mummy. Happy birthday. I love you. We love you so much. Up to the moon and back.

It's your birthday today and I love you very much. And happy birthday. Happy birthday, Mummy. I love you so much. I wish it could be your birthday right now so I can give you lots of candles and kisses. I give you presents. And so I can blow you a candle now.

And, Mummy, when I love you, I love you taking me to everything and even your shop. Your shop? Tony Mays, high five. I can get jewelry and rocks from there. Bye, Mummy. Bye. We love you.

We love you. Happy birthday. They love you and happy birthday. You might have missed that message. What I'm getting from that is they take them to work too often. We love it when you take us to the shop and we get rocks. I really appreciated Lola's surprise. It's your birthday at the very start.

But just so you know, that message went on for another 10 minutes. That was the same thing on repeat for 10 minutes. We had to cut it down. It was like there was a lot of love and a lot of happy birthdays. They're the best. I mean, they're four and five. I don't know what else you would expect. They're so cute.

Although I did know that they had made a message. I didn't know it was for here. And that's because I came home from work yesterday. Molly goes, hey, mom, can we watch that birthday message we made for you on your phone? This is why we're not allowed nice things, Molly. I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, that's very, very cute. Guys, thanks for doing that.

My kids never remember anything because they're too little. and that's the shock when they realize it's mom's birthday well happy birthday mom can't wait to blow out your candles to be fair i've only taken lola to the shop once this year and i have there's one area upstairs where i have heaps of crystals and so she went and she like took a little she took like a no she took like a whole bag of crystals that she picked out for herself and beads and stuff and it's funny the things that kids latch on to that they remember that they feel was really special to them like that to me was just kind of like we had to run in and do something and she now has them and they're like her treasures yeah it's very sweet well speaking

of Lola's treasures the reason why I got almost no sleep last night is because we had a very important person visit our house and that was the dummy fairy so last night was I mean you guys if you know I've spoken about a little bit like Lola's four she's very old to still have a dummy I'm well aware don't come for me I know and I almost say that in like defense because there's always someone who's like, or like, look at her teeth, look at her overbite. There's always some sort of judgmental comment. It's been a really, really hard process for us to get Lola off the dummy. It's been super emotional. There's been so many nights of just nonstop crying. We tried a year ago and we took her off for six weeks and it was awful. Like she just never, ever got better

being off it. So six weeks and we took her to a site. Like I have a girlfriend who's a child psychologist and she was like give her back the fucking dummy she's like it's not a big deal she was like i know she's old she clearly has attachment issues there's also some sensory stuff that we're like you know figuring out with lola and she was like it's just not a big deal if it's causing this much distress like we can work on it later yeah she can get veneers anyway kids are always getting braces these days and stuff just like everyone did it to be fair she's gonna get a facelift by the time she's 20 anyway isn't that what kids do well i think at this point probably 13 14 yeah anyway continue on once she's had a jaw realigned we joke it's not okay

so yeah we're like a year on from that and we kind of have been having the conversations with her ongoing around the dummy fairy and how the dummy fairy is coming soon but we've been really encouraging her to set the time when that was going to happen and like set the date obviously with parameters around it we weren't just like pick whenever she's like when I'm 25 so when we away on the Gold Coast she chose that last night was the night that the dummy fairy was coming unfortunately for me it also coincided with Matt being in Melbourne so it meant that convenient I was the only dummy fairy in the house and I was the only one who could actually like buffer her sadness and her big emotions so talk us through like what the dummy fairy does because we know

like the tooth fairy we know Easter we but I don't know the job criteria of the dummy fairy When you think about when we were young, parents would just take your dummies off, you cut a hole in it, cut the top of it, throw it in the bin. There was no care around the removal of the dummy. Now it's like the gentle parenting has really taken over. Do you think we're too gentle? I'm so well adjusted and my parents did not teeter-totter to us. They would have ripped that thing out and burnt it to the ground in front of us. But I want to defend you because it's not like you're a gentle parent.

You can do whatever you want in every aspect. This is one specific thing that you've been like the juice isn't worth the squeeze until now. The dummy has been the one thing that has been really challenging for us. And it's because, so I liken it to how lots of kids have like a flannel or a teddy or something that they've had their whole life that they go to bed with. Loads of kids have their little like attachment blankie or whatever the hell it is. Lola doesn't have that. She has her dummy. That's it.

And she's like a full dummy connoisseur now. Like we'll go to the park and she'll be like, hey, mom, point out another kid. And she's like, that's a nice dummy. it's like she's going past the car yard she's like it's a great lamborghini so that's a really good dummy she's like that's top night has top shelf it calls was that a two-for-one chemist warehouse so the way that we did the dummy fairy sorry do you think she walks up to them and she's like great compares great dummy like just so you know like choice do you think like how like chicks would like compliment each other's pants or something in the bathroom where'd you get that

from what's what brand can i see the teeth yeah show me show is it is it soft oh that is supple Oh yeah. I like the way it shimmers in the light. Okay. Literally, literally. So, okay. This is how the dummy fairy worked in our household. Last night I collected all the dummies. There was like five of them in the house. So collected them all up, put them in a bowl, right? And Marley made her a little picture. Like she made her like a drawing of the dummy fairy and everything. And we left them all outside on the table with a little note that we'd written to the dummy fairy about taking them and how like she could have them and take them to a magical castle. I don't even know.

the story just got more and more elaborate I had no control over the fantastical story that came out anyway the dummy fairy bought Lola some presents and it's an exchange the dummy fairy takes the dummies she leaves the presents it feels like Christmas like it feels comparative in terms of excitement so Lola gave all of her dummies a kiss she gave them all a cuddle she put them into her little cup she said goodbye and she went to bed with a little toy that I'd given her as a present for being so brave and she got into bed and she just had the saddest little cry like it wasn't a big cry it wasn't emotional or screaming she just had this sad defeated little whimper and she was like I am so sad and I am not brave and I am not strong and she just cried

and softly cried herself to sleep and that was why am I crying it's like when you know you're in a relationship that you love them but you know they're not the one for you and they're toxic they don't love me it's like it's like unrequited love you know it's got to end yeah but you're not happy about it but you're making the decision anyway that is brave and she was really sad just like just like this real pathetic sadness anyway and then every time she woke up it meant that like trying to get her back to sleep was hard so she like didn't have that comfort thing so i don't think it's a one night situation by any means i think last night was the tip of the iceberg i reckon we're in for some pretty bad nights because now that she's gotten the present in the morning

and she was so excited I think that it's gonna like spiral down the other side of the hill for maybe a week or two and then I think she'll come out the other side good maybe it's and what I will say is Laura 100% has tried this many times I will back that because we all went through it together I obviously didn't have to go through the sleepless nights but like you committed for a long time it's been a roller coaster maybe this one is different because she's still gonna be sad but she did come to the realisation and the decision on her own. So maybe she won't be as tantrum-y because she doesn't feel like you've taken something from her, like she's given it up.

100%. I think it will be different. I think that we got to a place where she made a decision and with Lola it's all about giving her control. Like she needs to have control over things. You can't try and push stuff on her. She's got to figure it out when she figures it out. I think she will be sad but she understands and that's the thing

that's different this time to last time. Whereas last time it was like we took it and we were punishing her and she didn't understand why. The only thing I think is interesting is that now she's at an age where she's like starting to understand manipulations. I'm so sad. She's kind of like old enough to be like, hmm, one more night without the dummies, no presents tomorrow morning

to rest in. Or it's even like she's at an age now where she's so smart where she's like the dummy for who took them, go to fucking Chemist's Warehouse and get me another one. She's like, I have a solution. She's like, mum, you've got Laura 10 for 10% off. She's like, just get me one. That's one.

last one I don't know look it's yeah it's it's a hard one you have to be fine 100 and you have these moments in parenting where like you have to have loving boundaries the next one is getting her to sleep in her own bed but she's just like my little she's my little tricky one she's like a little koala and she's very sensitive and she just requires a little bit more softness so we are going through the process and it's happening it's underway I'm very happy to hear about that thank you I'll be happy in like a month's time when it's over I also had a really soft pathetic cry yesterday if you want to know why so Lola and I are very similar I'm not proud of this this is what I'm going to start this conversation it's very funny okay it's not that

it is funny now that I've cried it out it's funny I will start the conversation with I received a message from Brit yesterday afternoon saying hey can you please pick me up from carology at 7 30 in the morning and drive me to work I don't have my car tomorrow then I also messaged Keisha and said Keisha can you please bring your electric hand screwdriver drill as well tomorrow so two separate messages went to the group hey can you pick me the same reason yeah it is it's the same reason so so yeah I needed a pickup because I don't have a car and I need a screwdriver so I was driving home from work yesterday in Sydney very busy cruising along not speeding and I see a police car like zooming up behind me a couple of cars away and I was like oh it's got somewhere

to go so I better pull over I did the thing like the way you pull to the side I didn't stop though because there were multiple lanes. I just went to the left. And then he pulled in behind me and I was like, oh, am I not out of the way enough? And I kept driving and he didn't overtake me. And I was like, is he pulling me over? And I was like, oh, my God, I think he is.

The audacity. But I was like cruising at like 55 kilometres, like under the speed limit because it was peak hour traffic. I was not doing anything wrong. In that moment, are you like, am I a drug dealer? Do I have guns in the car? Like you've never had one in your entire life. Oh, yeah, did I leave that gun in the car?

No, but I was like, in my head I was like, I'm not speeding, but it's also not a random breath test I was like he intentionally has pulled me over so I was like fuck so I pulled over and he gets out and he walks up and puts his hands in his pockets he's like ma'am can I have your license and registration please he was not American he was not from Texas no he's Australian but that sounded better license and registration please and I was like okay gave me my license and registration he's like do you know why you've been pulled over today I said no I actually really don't he's like you're driving an unregistered vehicle ma'am and I was like what he's like you're unregistered and I was like no I'm not I was like I'm not

unregistered and he's like no you are unregistered what address are you at he's trying to catch me out what's your address and I tell him my address and he's looking at his little pad look I showed him my license on my phone I was like it's on my phone and he's like show me your actual license then so I got him out the hard license updated address as well and I was like also updated address he's like oh that's weird he's like you're oh we've made it oh we made an internal paperwork error. Yeah. He's like, that's weird. I was like, I register my, always register my car when I get sent my registration. That's how it works. I don't have an alert in my phone. It's one day a year. You wait till you get the letter and you register it. You know, I think that that's

normal. I know it does seem like a terribly backward way of doing things. Like why are we waiting for letters when we all have email addresses and phone numbers? Yeah. I wait for it to come to me. I wait for the reminder, right? I don't have it in my diary, which maybe I need to from here forward anyway we have this conversation and I'm like look he's like it's been sent to this old address I said I haven't been there in four years I was like that's on you he's like actually I'm a policeman I'm a separate party it's not on me and I was like oh okay sorry and I was like well do you does this still have to happen is this still a thing now that you know he's like yeah he's like you're driving an unregistered he's like you've been unregistered

for four months and I was like what four months you don't have to admit that Brie that part I sort of have to no because the next because the next part is I paid insurances and stuff I just hadn't gotten the letter because it got sent to an old thing and it was from December so I was overseas with Ben that's my excuse that's that was that's the end of my reasoning I was about one month not even three weeks but that's the registration time that's when I was there exactly when I was there because it's just before Christmas that it was registered so I just was not here not thinking about it didn't drive for five weeks whatever I also will back you and I've registered cars in many states in this country New South Wales is by far the biggest

piss take there's so many different steps and also some of them you have to do like you have to do them in order and you have to wait for them to update their records so if you get a CTP you've got to wait for that so that you can actually fill out your rego because they need the tick of approval from the people before and if you need a blue slip and it's such a nightmare the lady on the phone validated me completely she goes just so you know New South Wales is the most fucked state for registration I was like thank you I know anyway so it gets worse I was like okay so this does have to go forward he's like yes three thousand dollars fine that's upsetting I was like but it's not my fault and he's like not mine either so then he's like you actually can't drive

now and I was like I was just down the road so he's like you have to drive straight to a mechanic so I had to sit on the side of the road and phone around until someone could see me found a mechanic drove straight and he pulled over in front of me he was watching me he was he was checking I'm like okay cool so I went down I've been on the phone for all afternoon while my car's going to get at the check you don't need a normal check when you're unregistered i tried to register it on the spot he's like you need to register on the spot was watching me i tried to register it it says you don't have a registration anymore it's cancelled it's gone i couldn't do anything and it's empty service new south was empty and i was like oh my actual god then they call me

and they're like no longer exists no it's a ghost car then they were like you you need to before we can even do anything you need to come in and surrender your plates and i was like surrender my plates i was like what they're like surrender your plates we can't do anything to you surrender you i was like that's like i'm a criminal i was like do i have to walk in with my plates and be like don't shoot so now like it's not a normal registration to do a blue safety check you gotta do a blue slip which is this like thorough feel ups like getting felt up when you go through security then i have to go through all the registration i had to cancel all this other stuff now i've got to undrill my plates i don't even know how to take plates off but i'm gonna

figure it out. Surrender them. And then when I surrender them and I have to Uber there because I have to Uber everywhere because I can't drive my car with no plates. Then I have to go get new plates given to me, Uber back to the mechanic, unsurrender them and put new plates back on. Then everything, if you think about the admin, everything that's attached to it, all the tolls, all the pay apps, everything is attached to my... That is devastating. I was devastated. And then can I tell you the last thing that made me really upset? Actually, I was really upset because that's when I just really wanted a man in the house because I was like, I just want you to fix this problem.

I want you to go and take the plates off and surrender them. You're like, I'm sick of being a feminist. I need help. I want you to pay the $3,000 fine. The feminism has left my body. And I was so upset just by the whole thing because it is dumb. Like if I just had a reminder on my phone or something. But then I spoke to the RTA.

I said, this is your fault. I was like, you have sent it to an address four years ago. I said, I know I've updated my address. and they couldn't figure it out for a while too. They're like, yes, it does appear you have. And they're like, oh, I understand what's happened. And I was like, what? They're like, there was just another link attached to another account that hasn't been updated. And I said, well, why isn't it updated automatically? They're like, it's a separate form that no one told me about. I was like, of course you have it. Of course you have a separate form. I was like, don't even worry.

I'll be there to surrender tomorrow. So I have to turn myself in today. Even I want to surrender after that story. Okay. At the end of the day, yes, I have equal blame. I could have known that that was the time of year, but also I'm the kind of person and from who I've spoken to, there's someone else in this room currently driving unregistered. I'll not say who it is. It's not me. I know that everyone's going to instantly assume that it's me. It's also not me. There is another person in the room. She's not on camera. It's that wonderful video editor, Vanessa, who's hiding in the corner.

But if I don't get something like that for a one-off thing that says, I wait for the letter, you open it, you sit down at the table, you pay it on the spot. That's how I operate. So we're equal blame. I have a conspiracy theory to put to both of you. do you remember when we were younger there were stickers that you would put on your bottom left hand side of the window right and it had the date that it was new when they were like we don't need rego stickers anymore i was like you guys are going to be sneaky little devils and you're not going to remind people and they're going to forget because they're not looking at it every other day

when they're driving their car and if they wanted to get in contact with you they would if they needed to find you britney if you had actually done some type of criminal activity they would be able to find you in a split second you are all over the internet you are the least private person they've got your phone number they've got your email they've got your bikini pics I should have shown him that I was like does this help no the thing is am I still fine he's like yes I'm okay I'll just show you the only thing though with that is is like I mean I do remember when they remove the stickers because as we have all established I'm almost 40 you're in your 40th year it could have been it could be an option like why don't the stickers still exist for people who

are particularly bad at paperwork like I am particularly bad at paperwork I am very lucky that in my relationship Matt takes control of those things because he is better at it the only reason why my car is registered is because Matt always like without fail he'll send me a text message every year and goes hey honey your car's up for registration soon I've paid it and he'll send it through to me like that's just so you guys are still paying my gas bill can you keep paying my register yeah and the evidence of this is that as you guys know I mean if you've been listening to the pod long enough, I realized after Britt had been living in her house for three years, which is my old house, that I was accidentally still paying her

gas bill thinking I was paying my own. That's how bad I am with paperwork. And I'm still now paying, like what I just do is instead of canceling it, cause I can't do the paperwork. I was like, I can't handle. We've decided you'll keep paying it and I'll just pay you. Yeah. I just email Britt her gas bill now and she pays it. And that's the system we have and it works well. So if Matt can start to email me my rego, I'd be very grateful. Well, anyway, it is sorted, everyone. If you do see me on the roads, it is because I am back on track and I have a new number plate. Well, it's not sorted yet because you've still got an Uber home, but you know, we're getting there. With my drill. Pray for me. Fuck my life.

Something that is living completely rent free in my mind at the moment. It may in fact even turn into my Roman empire because I have not stopped thinking about it since I saw the short of it play out on Instagram on the weekend, was an interview that happened between a reporter, Alec Baldwin and Ilaria Baldwin. Now, they are being questioned about their new reality TV show that they've put together, which is called The Baldwins, following them and their seven children. Full transparency, I haven't watched it. I'm not interested in watching it. I am, however, interested in all the drama that seems to follow this family. Are you not interested at all, just like the Meghan Markle just to like tap in and see what one episode's about personally I'm

not yes I think I am and I will the only thing is is for me I kind of hate that the mystery around Ali Baldwin has been lifted I used to really really like him as an actor and I used to love the movies and shows that he was in like 30 Rock for me was such a amazing series it was something that I like I just could not stop watching when I was in my 20s and to see the version of who I think he is in real life versus the characters that he played and I don't know I just it's kind of like made me lose the love for him a little bit and that's that's probably a an unfair thing to say because he isn't his characters but it makes me not want to watch him as a reality tv star I just don't have an interest but I think that's really interesting like that is an interesting

thing to unpack because we often talk about how we like celebrities so much more and we're so much closer to them. We have this parasocial relationship now that they aren't so mysterious and they do open up and show us who they are and their real personality. But on the other side of that, sometimes they show us too much and we don't like who they are. So I think sometimes it can be amazing. There are certain people that we froth even more when we're like, oh, you're just a normal person like me. You're really funny. I love your personality. But there's other people like Alec Baldwin, where it doesn't fit the mold. He doesn't fit reality TV and watching him interact on a different level. I understand why it's taken away from the way you probably romanticized him a

little bit. Yeah. And also he has gone from being a movie star to a reality TV star. And I don't know, for me, there's something about that that sits really uncomfortably. However, what I wanted to talk about was this incident that happened on the red carpet. I think that sometimes we become fascinated with couples and how they interact and who they are as people. I particularly am fascinated by Alec and Ilaria for the reason that they have seven children. I cannot get my head around the idea of having seven kids and still managing to be able to maintain a happy fulfilling relationship and a happy fulfilling household especially when you have other priorities like work and friendships and everything else that you need to juggle well interestingly she came out and

said that he she's had to put a stop to it he would have more kids she said he would keep going and she said to him you'll have to go get a younger wife which he's like I probably will I mean, well, he's done that once before. Well, look, have a listen to this. This is what everyone's been talking about. It is the way in which Ilaria shuts down Alec when he tries to speak on the red carpet. Have a listen.

We're going to see how it feels to have it be out there. This is great. You're a winner. Oh, my God. When I'm talking, you're not talking. No, when I'm talking, you're not talking. This is why, yes, we'll have to, like, just cut him out of the show. No.

I mean, I think this is a really raw show, and it's very real and we took a lot of chances so what you don't see is him rolling his eye well it doesn't roll his eyes he looks defeated and he kind of like looks up he steps back in a moment of like oh my god lord give me grace and then he steps back and then he moves away from the interview he obviously looks upset but what you also don't see is her actions so when she says when i'm speaking you're not speaking her hands are like in his face you know what i mean she's like when i'm speaking you're not speaking. We will put the moment on social media so that you guys can give your opinions. Very dismissive. There's been a lot of backlash. Now, the problem is, is people already

have their reasons and their biases to not like Hilaria. There was a lot of controversy around her not actually being Spanish, her having a fake Spanish accent, her forgetting the word cucumber, which was iconic at the time. Is iconic the right word? Not really. No. Controversial? Maybe. Questionable, definitely. But the thing is, is I think people already seek out reasons to dislike her. However, even myself watching this behavior and watching this moment where she clearly asserts herself in the conversation, it made me feel viscerally uncomfortable. And I had to ask the question, why?

Is it because she overstepped in how she communicated with her husband in a relationship that we know very little about? Or is it because this is a clear situation where someone is being disrespected in public and we're not used to seeing it? The reason I find this so interesting is because the way she reacted to him and the things he was saying made it sound like he was being rude and really rude and really dismissive. When in fact, whilst he did jump in a little bit, like you can hear he does, he is trying to say something, but what he's trying to say is just like a few words here and there

in complete support about a show that he's also involved in and about a question that he has also been asked. They've both been there interviewed together about a show that they both star in together. if there's going to be another season and all he's doing is like he's behind her a little bit and he's like supporting her he's like yeah you'll be great you've got this like there was no reason I think for her to be so rude and dismissive she very easily could have been like thanks babe and it could have been done I think it's the public statement of dismissing him and in some way it is embarrassing to air your public laundry like that like your dirty laundry publicly I should

say and that's what we're not used to seeing so I have no doubt that these things go on behind and closed doors with Hollywood and celebrities all the time, but we don't often see it so blatantly. She wasn't embarrassed by it. She didn't look like she did anything wrong. Otherwise she wouldn't have done it. She was just like, no, I'm talking. You're not talking. Don't interrupt me. I found it very unnecessary. And I think as you just sort of mentioned before, it really does double down on the public's confirmation bias of why we hate her. Like the reason that people are more against her than for her in this situation is because they already don't like her from her past discrepancies, which is pretending she's Spanish.

Yeah, if people didn't have already such a strong dislike for her, this wouldn't have gone as viral. It might have, you know. She's pretty rude. It may not have even necessarily touched the sides in the same way. It was rude but would it have made as big news? I think people like love to latch on things that confirm the reasons why we don't like something or like someone.

my only other question to this is yes maybe it's a moment of showcasing that they don't have the perfect relationship but a lot of people don't have the perfect relationship in fact I would say most people don't have the perfect relationship and there are moments of frustration that happen towards your partner I don't know if it's an indication necessarily of her just being a horrible awful person or maybe maybe let's play devil's advocate in this situation maybe it is a case that every time she's speaking, she is being interrupted and she's fed up of it. I understand that there is a right way and a wrong way to go about it. I understand that like doing it publicly versus speaking in private is very rude and it comes across dismissive, but there's so many more

layers that you don't see when you look at what is just a five or 10 seconds clip of someone. Now I'm saying this to play devil's advocate. Of course, that's not how I felt when I watched it. I absolutely felt all the things that we're talking about. I was like, wow, if I ever spoke to Matt like that in a public setting, wow, we would be having a fight in the taxi on the way home. I don't even think I would do that in front of a friend. Like, do you know what I mean? I think that that is such a private conversation.

And we have to switch the narrative here a little bit. If that role was reversed and he was talking and she was like, babe, you're going to be great, and he turned around and went, don't speak while I'm speaking, we would be in uproar. But I don't, that's what I mean. I don't think that that stereotype is considerably different. I really don't. What I mean by that is people are angry about it.

People think that she has emasculated him is a lot of the comments. They're saying that he looks as though he's like downtrodden and weak, like he's being taken advantage of in this relationship. I hate this narrative that because she is a strong and obviously very outspoken woman that he must be hard done by as a man in that relationship. Yeah, he's doing just fine. I think he's fine. He's also like, whether he's miserable or he's happy, like he has made the decisions

to be in the relationship he's in. He's made the decisions to have the amount of children that he's had. These are mutual decisions. We don't need to feel sorry for him. He also made the decision to be part of this reality TV show. You know, this stuff doesn't just happen to him because she's the mastermind making everything happen around him. I think that there is absolute mutuality that's happening here.

I don't know. I just found this whole moment in time fascinating. and I think that it really villainizes her and makes her kind of plays into the stereotype that she's like just this like nasty woman who is taking over his life yeah I don't want anyone to feel sorry for him in that sense because he can make his own decisions he's the one that came into the relationship with money control power he was older he had a successful career he doesn't have to be there if he doesn't want to I also hate the fact that just because the woman takes control in it is assertive that people like get out of there man like you deserve better that's

a load of bullshit like that is an absolute load of bullshit but anything I did feel about this situation was only intensified they sort of doubled down a little bit it wasn't the intended reaction but they did give a united response to this now viral interview on the red carpet this viral moment so they are laying in bed together and they are lip syncing to the actual fight to the audio and then they're trying to have this like we're still happy we're together we're united they're kissing they're cuddling but have a listen there it is great you're a winner oh my god when i'm talking you're not talking no when i'm talking you're not talking this is why yes we'll have to like just cut him out of the show and that is called what's the word of the day

interrupting interrupting which could be a positive it could be a negative or it could be a correctile dysfunction yes correctile dysfunction i think that's one of our children trying to get into the room um but you know the whole point is because their children about to come in the whole point is that we interrupt each other all the time okay i'm coming okay so now that we cleared all of that up i cleared it up give me a kiss just so you know that i'm not now they're making out just so you know she's trying to become more likable again and more relatable for me it pushed me the other way i was like ew i hate this whole thing yeah i don't think it had the desired response i think what she was trying to do was to lean into this idea of i mean

man interrupting is quite clearly when a man interrupts a woman whether that is a negative thing and what she said is a negative or a positive he was positively trying to say she was doing a good job but he was interrupting her when she was trying to speak so what they're trying to establish there is being like well she was putting down clear boundaries around not wanting to be interrupted and wanting to have her own voice and speak for herself correctile dysfunction. I love that term. Yes, everything needs a term and this is fantastic. Correctile dysfunction being- Erectile dysfunction, but words. Yeah. And I guess the same thing is like when a man is mansplaining a situation that doesn't

need to be explained, but they feel as though the need that they should be adding to the conversation. My only thing that I come back and I know that I keep playing devil's advocate around this fight and around this small bit of audio, because I did find it fascinating seeing the negative sides to someone's relationship is that I can only assume for a very long time she probably played second fiddle to his success I'm sure that every time they're on a red carpet every time they go anywhere I mean he starred in over 80 movies or 80 tv series like he is a true movie star you would be a little bit in the shadows of that success for a really long time and I guess like this is something that she probably feels really proud of or really excited about maybe the reality

tv show is something that was her idea and I guess as much as everyone's saying like oh but it's also he's in it and it's his thing as well I feel as though it could be a situation where maybe she's like I want to talk about this and then she's you know they're being interrupted feels so much more purposeful when it's like but I've always let you have your moment to shine I want to have my moment I don't know I get the impression it was the ice cream on the cake I think there's been a lot of other things going on behind closed doors you know when you've been like bickering with a partner for a while and then they do one little thing and you lose it I reckon that was his icing on the cake yeah I mean there's something very different about a public berating versus a conversation

behind closed doors on something as well like you know that this is going to go viral you are on camera on a red carpet having an argument as a couple you know it's and maybe that's what they want maybe this is all part of just drumming up some more publicity I don't know now I know we've been talking a lot about Ali Baldwin but hear me out with the link here Tina Fey so Tina Fey was the co-star of Alec on 30 Rock. She's also been a co-star on Saturday Night Live. They have done much work together. This is how we're finding our segue to the next conversation. Well, because I found this very interesting also. So Tina Fey was recently on Amy Poehler's podcast, The Good Hang. What Tina shared is that she has a real issue when rich celebrities start

additional businesses that are outside their main sphere of focus. Say when like a George Clooney starts a tequila brand or a Rihanna starts Fenty when really really stupidly rich and successful people namely celebrities that already have so much influence over industries and over people create new businesses and get richer off the back of it I have a problem with rich people having a side hustle yeah you mean like a podcast or something no that's as you're doing work I'm thing if you if you sold like um where would my line be for you where would i draw the line yeah i know what you mean like if i had a if i had a rosé if you yeah you know if you already have like yeah 200 million dollars and you're like also i need you to but tina that is this

is where you have to learn from gen z i'm sorry and we have to they don't care they don't they don't judge they don't judge it i judge it well get you should stop because this is the thing that you have to have a million you have to have glasses yeah um well I have my line of children's medications I personally hate it I have said and I have sent messages to you guys over the last year or two when people in the public eye not people like in Australian public eye I'm talking like Hollywood celebrities when they come out with a new business that's completely unrelated to anything else it makes me mad I've sent it to you guys and I'm like why are they doing that and the reason I say this is, of course, anyone can do whatever they want. Of course, you can have an

interest in anything. You can go into multiple lanes. It's not about that. But when people that are worth literally hundreds of millions of dollars and not exaggerating, some of them billions of dollars are starting businesses in every single industry you can imagine, an alcohol, a haircare, some clothing, makeup, whatever, skincare, every second person has a skincare brand. That makes me upset because there are so many little people, everyday people that are grinding in their businesses, their passion projects. They're trying to make ends meet. And these people who literally do not need another dollar in the world, they could retire every person in their family, start taking that away. And it impacts the little businesses. It's when it

makes me really angry. And I'm talking about the level of people, not just wealthy people, because wealth is subjective now. And it takes a lot more to live and retire now than it would have 10 or 20 years ago, but I'm talking about the filthy rich people that don't have a care in the world and could literally retire tomorrow. They're the people that it pisses me off. I have duplicitous feelings about this because on one hand, yes, I agree with what you're saying, like the rich get richer. And that seems to be a very unfair fact of the world. However, we have forever had celebrity endorsed products, campaigns, brands. It's how most brands over time have been able to advertise whatever it is, the new products that they have coming out.

And so I guess for me, I'm like, is there a huge difference between a celebrity endorsed brand, you know, paying someone to be the face of a new beautiful perfume or to be the face of a new jeans that's been launched, you know, Levi jeans or whatever, versus a celebrity who is getting an ongoing commission because they've partnered with a manufacturing company and they've created their own brand. I actually don't know if I see them that differently and I kind of found it funny that this came from Tina Fey because Tina Fey has recently been the face of a credit card company doing ads online and I'm like oh hold on but then aren't you stepping outside your box of acting to do ads to create more wealth when I would dare say that Tina Fey is doing pretty fine I mean she did say in this interview that she just wants to make enough money to live I would question if Tina Fey doesn't have enough money to just get by and live like something's going wrong in the American acting world? I mean, yes, it is. Something is going drastically wrong with

the American acting world. A lot of Hollywood don't earn what you think they earn. And we remember Rebel Wilson telling us that she earned $3,000 for Bridesmaids, $3,000. And she had to register with the acting association with that money. She made nothing. So there is definitely the like 0.5% of Hollywood that earn that really good cash. But I see it very differently, Laura, to that. And let me tell you why. If you lend your face to a brand and you get paid like these actors do, if you're going to be the face of Levi's, you might get, I'm just going to pull a number out, right? $100,000, $500,000. Millions. Celebrities are getting millions. Depends on your level, but I'm just picking a number for an example. Even if you got paid a

million dollars, I think Kylie Jenner gets a million dollars a post apparently. Alec Earle is in the news at the moment for Gymshark. They've cancelled her contract with them and she's suing them saying that they owe her millions. So yeah, people are making million dollar deals. This is the difference. you have endorsed a product that you love. You've given your face to them. You are making a million dollars, but you have made that business. For example, Gymshark. Gymshark started from a $500 loan in his mom's house, literally in his bedroom. He is a self-made billionaire. So now this person is getting paid a million dollars, but they have made a small, what was once a small business

money. I'm going to give you an example of when somebody that is already filthy rich makes more money than you could possibly need and then continues to start businesses and take from other people. And I'm going to use Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds as an example. Ryan Reynolds was already in the top five highest paid actors in the world. Then he started his alcohol brand. His alcohol brand sold for $845 million. So you're already the richest person in Hollywood. You start a brand, you make nearly a billion dollars. Then after that, you guys then go and start another company for non-alcoholic beverages so you're going to take now you're going to take business from all the little people out there that are literally trying

yeah and it's those kind of things that really start to piss me off because I'm like you are just being greedy you've already touched in alcohol when you don't need another dollar you've sold that now you're going to go into another angle they've got so many other businesses on the side which I get I think it's amazing if it's something that you are really passionate about Ryan Reynolds buying Wrexham football club amazing you have an interest in it you are so passionate about it we love to see that he's done so much good for them but the constantly putting your fingers in every other pie taking from other small businesses for zero reason is what really starts to grind me there are a lot of celebrities that own alcohol brands that don't

drink yeah like they're non-drinkers and I'm like oh that doesn't make sense it's a bit strange isn't it but that one I mean like I would love to know examples of that because like I would say so I guess the reason why I'm kind of and don't get me wrong I do absolutely think that there's limitations to it. But I also do see some companies that have become behemoth companies because the consumers love the products that are being created, not just because it has been backed by a celebrity, but because the products fill the gap and were fantastic. For example, Skims, it's a billion dollar business. Kim Kardashian started it. Obviously they were already so ridiculously successful, but I would say that the outward perception of Skims is that they provide

products that have been really well received by the market and something that people have really desired, which is like the seamless shapewear. The other thing as well, Fenty Beauty, which is by Rihanna, is also a billion dollar business now. She makes more money through her makeup label than what she ever did through music. The reason why it became so popular is because she wanted to create makeup and foundations that suited so many different skin shades because she found that for herself, they just weren't the right foundations for her color skin or for people who had darker skin. So I think in these instances, I'm like, the products are so good. There was a gap in the market, or maybe there wasn't a gap, but at least they were able to make it so accessible

through their celebrity-ism. And then I think, okay, well, if it is, for example, that Rihanna is overdoing music or she doesn't want to do acting, is it not okay for her to switch lanes and become a businesswoman or an entrepreneur? When is it okay for us to say, well, that person can have an extra business. That person can't. And where is the line? I'll tell you when. Kylie Jenner, billionaire. Everything you've done, amazing. You've got your skincare range. You're passionate about that. That's incredible. Don't care. You found your niche and you found your billion dollars. You then start a clothing company. There's a little Aussie designer brand. I shouldn't say that little. It's called Johansson Official. That's the Instagram,

but the label is called just Johansson. 175,000 followers. I've bought from her before. She does quite small collections but she has very signature collections like she's got this one dress that's like lace and a twist and it's very much her thing and Kylie Jenner has been accused of ripping off that entire collection with her own label Kai now Kylie was already a billionaire you've already got your niche and your passion if you really felt the need to go and make another billion dollars from a clothing company at least be original but this is where my issue comes in that you are taking from these small people that are just grinding. That is, I think like completely unethical. Happens all the time. For me, I'm like, if it fills a gap, if the products are great and

if it's not impeding on another business in terms of taking their IP or their designs, then I'm like, well, great, that's entrepreneurship. And like, I kind of love that in person, but on the flip side to it, if it's not entrepreneurship and you're just doing it because it's a money-making scheme and you're simply creating another business and ripping off someone's designs, I feel like that's deeply different conversation. Again, I disagree. I don't have a problem with somebody starting a business for money that they're not passionate about. I think there's loads of people that see a niche industry and they're like, hey, I see a gap there. Might not be what I dreamt of doing when I'm growing up, but I'm going to capitalize on that market. I think that's intelligent. I

think that's brilliant. You don't have to have the passion in my eyes to want to make the money. But my problem is just when people are doing it that don't need the money anymore. And that's when it takes away from it, when you're putting your fingers in multiple pies. And I'm not talking about local Australian people that, you know, there's loads of people that have great jobs in this industry in Australia in media and that are starting alcohol and perfume and clothing. And I don't have any issues with that. I think that is brilliant. I'm talking about the mega dog celebrities. This is who my issue lies with. Yeah. It's like how many hundreds of millions do you need to have in order to be satisfied with the income that you've already got? I guess like,

I mean, it's very interesting. I would say that there are very few mega celebrities who do not have additional businesses anymore it kind of is part and parcel with having this incredible following and having like all of the eyes on you as a celebrity it's almost as though people realize instead of endorsing other people's brands I'm going to put my influence behind my own brand behind my own thing because you know music has an expiration date being a actor has an expiration date yes you may get royalties but you're never going to be the level of income and fame that you once were. And so a lot of these businesses, simply because of the size of the notoriety of the celebrity, the businesses themselves become 10 times more successful than what they ever were

in being or whatever it was that was their original chosen career. Some other examples of this is Selena Gomez with Rare Beauty, Scarlett Johansson, The Outset, Lady Gaga with House Labs, and then even Ariana. She's monetized and capitalized on the Wicked brand and she's got REM beauty and God is a woman and she's got so many wicked style products which all kind of you know obviously she'd have to pay some royalties to have the branding but it all goes back into Ariana's brand that she has I think it's so rare for celebrities to not have businesses and that's why the take of Tina Fey is something that's very interesting and that's because it's almost as though she is the outlier she's one of the few celebrities that have huge profiles that don't

have these extra businesses that don't sit within like a creative field and she's kind of calling it out for the little people and I think that's why so many people have listened to this and really resonated with it the only last thing that I want to say is that I wonder how much it has to do with finances and how much it has to do with ego and relevance like traditionally we used to say particularly for you know women in media like in Hollywood spaces that they kind of fade off into obscurity whereas I guess if they have a business that is thriving and you know we talk about this with sports people when they come to the end of their careers and they're about to retire a lot of them start businesses so that they have something that they can continue doing

after their playing career is over and maybe this is kind of the Hollywood I don't know like I kind of sit in the middle of these two things I'm not really sure how I feel about it I think I feel like it's very late stage capitalism on steroids but what are their options are there options to just continue doing this creative work where retire like in a society that is like you know we are so quick to tell women that they're not relevant anymore and like move aside you're not doing anything fresh maybe this is the kind of the antidote to that I don't know I know I agree I think there's a huge part of it that is about relevance as well and also and reinventing yourself yeah but not even reinventing yourself but also particularly for women I will say women

women do always feel like they have to prove themselves like look I am a successful business woman as well I can do this I can grind and I know I've gone hard down one avenue but I'm also hyper aware that we truly don't understand how much money some people make and I don't mean positively I mean on the lower end I think a lot of us think there's a lot of celebrities that make a lot of money that don't and I say that because we've had Lily Allen say you know she makes more money on OnlyFans than she does on some of her music or all of her music I know another singer again that I'm not going to name that had huge songs and he's told me personally he has not made anywhere near enough money from it. He definitely cannot live off it. He still sometimes lives

month to month. But from the outset, we would be looking at that thinking that those people were loaded, but we don't quite understand the music industry or the entertainment industry to the level we do. So I do want to say that I think there are a lot of people we think have made more money that would be starting businesses because they don't actually have their consistent income coming in. So benefit of the doubt for those people. Yeah. And I guess like the only thing that I'd like to wrap this with is that I don't think that all celebrity businesses are built the same. I think that there are absolutely some celebrity businesses where it is a money grab. They clearly don't have investment in the product, the time, the entrepreneurship, or any of the

actual workings that it requires to run a business. They've just slept their name on something and they are reaping the rewards while everyone else is doing the work. And they're also pushing out the little guys in doing so. But there are also celebrity businesses where the interest of that celebrity has pivoted and they are deeply entrenched in their business. They care about it greatly and it is their true passion that they have moved into. And I don't think that we should discredit those celebrities simply because they already had a huge following. If they're creating products or they're creating businesses that are one, a passion and also creating thousands and thousands of jobs for individuals, wherever it is that their business is placed and also creating

products that people do want to purchase, not just from a consumerism perspective, but because it fills a gap or a need that people actually require all right guys well it is time for our suck and our sweet of the week our highlight and our low light of each and every week britney i already know you're stuck yeah i have an unregistered car and a three and a half thousand dollar bill and i need to go home and try and take my plates off don't even know how i'm gonna do that did you get keisha's drill did that happen she's she brought it for me today yeah maybe that should be my vibe this week you vibed it before have i yep you're 100% of my electric drills they're worth the $70. You need to have one. Every single person needs to have one. And my sweet is just the

fact that Delilah is back a hundred percent on track and she's happy and healthy and still really cuddly. So I had a really easy suck and sweet. The suck was a fucking suck of the year. So yeah, but that was my sweet. What about you? My suck for the week is that, I mean, I know I already told you about Dummy Fairy. It was very emotional. My suck is that Matt left at the same time that this happened. So like all of the hard parenting stuff this year, he's just kind of managed to boycott like also being away for five weeks overseas super convenient good for him he hasn't been here this year I mean does he do these kids even have a dad who knows whose dad is that's my registration so that's my suck is like having to do the heavy load of the night times without him

he comes home tomorrow and my suite for the week is actually I have a couple of suites but just one we're running out of time Jess Malboy is outside waiting to come in well well she is hi Jess so my suite is that we went away on the weekend to the gold coast but my actual suite is that we've opened our tony may shop in bondi and i am like i am so excited we have been on the wait list for this store for seven years i'll tell you guys more about it next week after we have our big opening and everything that's happening on thursday that i accidentally ruined on social media by posting and i didn't know i was not supposed to post it it's exactly what happened but it feels like it feels like a huge achievement to have this second store and i'm really excited about it that's my

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