Life Uncut - Britt's Gone On A Blind Date & Laura Is Interested In Witchcraft (Again) - The Best Of The Pick Up

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode was recorded on Camaragal land. Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. I'm Brittany and this is our radio show. It's The Pickup. It's where we round out all the best bits from our national radio show and we put them here. Because you know, not everyone's listening at three o'clock every single day. Yeah, not for not want of trying. I'm sure you tried, but if you did miss it. Some people have jobs, can't listen to the radio at three o'clock, so you might have missed it. Yeah, so this week I went on a date.
Starting point is 00:00:29 I went on a blind date. But it's not the kind of date you think it is. I went on a friend date. It wasn't even a friend date. It was a sporting date. It wasn't a friend either. Yeah, it's like you're not even friends with them. It was kind of like a blind sport match.
Starting point is 00:00:41 It's because I need more friends, so I had to put it out there to randos to play sport with. No, you've got friends, just not enough who are willing to play paddle with you. That's all it is. You know what happens? Because you're at my age, at my ripe old age of 38. You're so young. It's not the age thing, but it's hard to find friends that don't have little kids at my age.
Starting point is 00:01:01 People are in the thick of it at this age. Like you're either pregnant or you've got little ones. Yeah, for sure. People are just not available to go and play sports. To be fair, if you messaged me and was like, hey, Laura, let's go and play paddle tennis, I would be like right back. You wouldn't even write back. No, I would write back, but I would also just wet my pants.
Starting point is 00:01:16 We've discussed it. It's nothing new. Like the pelvic pain I have at the moment would permit me from not being able to run around a court. Yeah, so I had to put it out there to some strangers. Would you want to waddle alongside me? We could try. Yeah, you'd love it.
Starting point is 00:01:29 My sister started playing at seven months pregnant. Even though I've said it's been my easiest, in terms of, like, mobility, I feel like it's my worst. Yeah. Like, I was so mobile in my first pregnancy with Marley. I was, like, walking, doing six, seven, eight corners. You're six years younger. Like, it's not rocket science.
Starting point is 00:01:44 All right, look, something else we talked about on the show. I don't know if you guys have ever heard of witch talk. So there's, like, a new subset category. It's not new, but maybe it's just new because I've discovered it. it's like witchcraft but on tiktok and it took me back to when i was 16 and i cast a spell on my first boyfriend and i am convinced it worked i actually still to this day kind of think maybe it did tell me the truth did you or have you cast a spell as an adult no no no but also okay if you can believe in manifestation you can kind of also believe in casting spells no there's
Starting point is 00:02:16 neuroscience behind manifestation it's science backed don't get me wrong i kind of think that Like people who would do spells, it's like a really intense form of manifestation because you're just really believing in the thing to come true. No, you're not. You're trying to do witchcraft. You're trying to put hexes on people. They're very different things.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Do not collate the two. But also I was like 16, 15 at the time. I was young. I was silly. Totally. Do you have a spell book? Do you still have it? I'd love you to bring that in.
Starting point is 00:02:44 We could cast a spell on someone. Should we try it out? Let's not. Should we try a spell out? No, but a good spell. I love spell on someone. Why is it, Producer Grace, why are you so against this? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:54 It just feels like a dangerous road to walk down. A spell? You're opening, you don't know what's on the other side. What kind of spell though? Someone could put a sleep spell on me so I get better sleep and I end up with narcolepsy. Why don't we put a spell on a listener that's having trouble for love? The occult is just.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I love spell. I'll do it. I'm not scared. It's from the very Christian school I went to. I think it's still left over. You're like, ah, paganism. Make it stop. I'm going to hell.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yeah, to be fair, I went to an all-girls, very Christian school and I think maybe we were just rebelling against the values, the very, very traditional Christian values that we were being taught in school and so I got really into paganism. I feel I did love, what was that show? The Craft. The Craft. Yeah, yeah, The Craft.
Starting point is 00:03:38 It was also the era of it. There were actually quite a few witch-themed movies. And they were all super hot. They were hot. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I know she wasn't a witch. She's not a witch. She's a vampire slayer.
Starting point is 00:03:47 She's not a witch. It's in that time. It's from that era. Anyway, let's get into the show. Hocus Pocus. Good one. Good. Great.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Love that. Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Good one. No, it was an era. It was a witch era. You're right. It was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I'm going to cast a spell on a listener. If you want a love spell, call. No, a good one. If you want a love spell, call me. I'm going to do it. Light as a feather, stiff as a board. Light as a feather, stiff as a board. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Let's get into the show. I know you're not big on TikTok, are you? I don't use TikTok. Yeah, but you look at it from time to time, don't you? You don't even scroll. I have not opened TikTok once this year. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Unless you send me something to like research. To research. I am so proud to not be in the TikTok vortex. It's interesting because for a show that talks about TikTok a lot, Brit like never, ever scrolls. That to me is so odd. Yeah, you guys just send it to me. It's just a waste of your brain power, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Oh, you are better than us. I am. That's true. Not on your case. I always thought that. Okay, well, you know that there's things like, so TikTok has categories, right? I don't know how it works.
Starting point is 00:04:46 TikTok is an app that you scroll, kind of like Instagram. No, it has categories. It's got things like book talk. It's got mum talk. It's got gym talk. There's all different things. Beauty talk. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I didn't actually know that. Yeah, trad wife talk. They're all over there. I don't know if that's what it's called, but there's definitely, there's different types of categories that you can go deep on. Now, I found a subculture of TikTok and that I got really deep on this. So deep that I'd spent a good hour and it's called witch talk. Okay, hear me out.
Starting point is 00:05:14 It's like witchcraft on TikTok. Oh, and this is what you're considering as your new pastime? Well, if you ever want to put a hex on your ex, if you want to like get that new job promotion. Laura, if you're still thinking about your ex and hex, we've got other issues. You're about to pop your third baby out. The reason why I think I was fascinated by this is because I went
Starting point is 00:05:31 through a witchcraft stage when I was. Why? Why? Does this not surprise me in the slightest? I was in school and I had like a special book that I would write down all the spells in. A spell book? They call it a spell book.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I can't believe I'm telling people. But it was like real pagan spells. It was – Stop it. I don't know what was wrong with me, but I did put a love spell on a boy. His name was Bradley Thomas. Ended up being my boyfriend for a year and a half at the time. Do you remember the spell?
Starting point is 00:05:58 I was convinced at the age of 15 that the spell was the reason why he fell in love with me. So I found a love spell online and, like, you needed all these different ingredients. You had to – Is this actually – It's like one of his hairs. You've got to pluck off his hair.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Literally, all of this stuff. I don't know if I needed a hair. I can't remember what I had from him, but I had something. Anyway, I had to like put it all together in a piece of paper, wrap the paper up, then you had to burn the paper and say this mantra over and over. And I remember. He will love me.
Starting point is 00:06:26 He will love me. But he's got a hair pluck to his head. Anyway, I remember doing it. And then about a week later, so some drama happened. And do you remember the Yellow Pages? It was back in the day of the Yellow Pages. So I did my spell and a week later I called him to ask him out on a date and I went through and I called
Starting point is 00:06:45 every single – Thomas is a very common name. How many people did you call? I spent a good hour and a half calling every Thomas that lived in the suburb. Doesn't he go to your school? No, no, no. I knew him through swimming but he didn't go to my school. I didn't know where.
Starting point is 00:06:57 I just knew the suburb he lived in. Anyway, I tracked him down and he fell in love with me and we dated for a year and a half and I was convinced for our entire relationship that it was because of the love spell. So when we broke up, I did another spell so that he wouldn't love me anymore. Oh, my God. Do you know what I'm thinking right now? To set him free.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I'm insane. To set him free. Spread your wings. I'm a peacock. You've got to let me fly. Because I was like, I've got to set the guy free. Did you break up with him? Yeah, can't let him love me forever.
Starting point is 00:07:26 You're twisted. What's wrong with me? First of all, you set a spell to make him love you just so you can have the control to then be like, don't want you anymore. I don't think it worked. I think it was more that there were other things wrong with me. If we're really going to unpack that, therapy could probably work. the idea that you had to set him free like he was so obsessed with you you're like I need a hex to
Starting point is 00:07:44 set you free I used to do seances with my friends we used to have sleepovers I'll never forget actually there's one story that's so funny it might not translate very well but tell it anyway my friends used to go to each other's house sleepover same age group and um do you remember that trend where one person would lay down and there'd be four people on each corner of your body like legs and you'd put two fingers under them and you'd all chant light as a feather stiff as a board light as a feather stiff as a board anyway and then you'd chant and then you would lift and the person was supposed to levitate I'll never forget when I was laying down once it was my term and all my friends like light as a feather stiff as a board light as a feather and you were
Starting point is 00:08:23 like closing your eyes you're manifesting to lift and then they started to lift and only one of my legs lifted and I just farted I was like in front of everyone I was like okay that's really awful Yeah, I've never forgot it. And that was a choice to share that story as well. I just want you to know. Yeah, we've both made choices here today. I'll just never forget. That was my only seance experience.
Starting point is 00:08:40 We never summoned anyone. I never made anyone fall in love with me with a witch. Do you know, okay, for anyone who's our age demographic and a female, you will feel this to your core and you will resonate. It's because there was a really popular movie that came out at the time. It was called The Craft and it was when we were all at school and any time you had a sleepover, girls just got obsessed with, like, magic and witches and casting spells and stuff and I was of that era that was my that was my time
Starting point is 00:09:04 we both were you know the only one I couldn't do Laura you know the one where you had to look in the mirror and I think say Bloody Mary three times oh no that was yeah I was like I can't bring myself to try it in case it works and the the demon pops up behind you well I'm glad you never did it and you're still here to tell the tale Brit thank god sorry you brought the story up. Don't you flip this on me. Laura, I know I just got married, but I sort of low key went on a kind of blind date on the weekend. And it's not, I don't want to say date. I went on a blind friend sporting date. I don't know what to call it yet. You seem confused. Because I didn't really know this is a thing, but I feel like it's a bit of a PSA for people out there wanting to meet new
Starting point is 00:09:45 people, but like as friends. So I was up on the Gold Coast and I have this new obsession with playing paddle, like the paddle tennis. If you guys don't know, it's like that little mini tennis kind of thing that you play in a glass box. Is it the same? There's a few of them. No, there's pickleball and there's paddle tennis. Sorry. Everyone's been trying to get me to play pickleball and I'm like, I'm too pregnant for pickleball at this point. No. So my sister started, Sherry started playing paddle at seven months pregnant and she loved it because it's, it's not as like excessive as tennis. It's really small, but anyway, whatever. We're getting sidetracked. We are not sponsored by Pickleball.
Starting point is 00:10:21 This is not sponsored by Paddle or Pickle. But the thing is you have to play it against people. So usually you play 2v2. Yeah. And so we didn't have anyone to play with because we don't have many friends and people work. So we found like this group where you go into a WhatsApp group and it has all these members and you just blind like put a call out
Starting point is 00:10:41 for somebody to play with. So it's just adults asking other adult strangers that they don't know. You don't have pictures. You don't know anything about them. you put in your level of like where how good you think you are which we put ourselves in the bottom so you put hey we're level c minus because that's what we are so we're hey guys two people c minus in this area looking for friends to play with and then other people respond that are also like c minus or b and then you swap number and then you just meet we were really nervous because we're
Starting point is 00:11:10 like they're waiting you don't know who you're looking out for like all these people walking past you like is that them and then it's the people with the rackets usually is it the dead giveaway. Not Laura. You're at a place with like 50 courts. Everyone has rackets. Got you. Sorry, I thought you were waiting at the front on the corner of the cafe. No. Let's get a coffee first, guys. You go to the courts and it's a whole tennis court. Okay, so how did it go for you? Were they nice? Were they normal? These two guys turned up. One was Italian, one was English. They were a bit above C minus and it's the equivalent of being on a first date. The nerves and stuff because you sort of have to start to get to know them but you're also playing against them and
Starting point is 00:11:44 you're trying to work out if you're friends and if you want to play again. You're not on a date, Britt, you're playing paddle ball. It's a friend date. Okay. Something that's slightly similar to this, probably actually more so that you have to kind of like, I don't know how to describe it. Like I want to say feel it out, but that's not the right words, was when I started doing salsa dancing. Cause you, you obviously you go as a solo person. Some people go with their partners, but if you're single and you're going solo, like salsa dancing, you just end up getting partnered up with someone. And then you've got some random dude who's salsa dancing you. He's grinding up against you. So he literally is feeling you up. And like half the time you're
Starting point is 00:12:16 like, are you hitting on me? Are we friends? Are we, like, what are we doing here? And it's just like, there's a weird dynamic that happens. Cause like, you can obviously go salsa dancing. It's very platonic, but there's a part of you that's like, how do I make sure this person knows that this is a platonic experience for him as well? Well, I just thought it was a really good way to make friends as an adult, but it was funny. So what happened was they came as twos and they'd only met through paddle as well. So they'd been playing together for a few weeks. We went as three. So myself, Sherry, my sister and her partner, and we just, one of us just rotated through. Anyway, we played for an hour and a half, had a great time, got to know each other.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Then afterwards, one of the guys texted Jay separately out of the group and asked to switch partners. And he said, will you be my new paddle friend? And he didn't want to play with me and Sherry and he didn't want to play with his friend. So it was like this weird couple breakup. We only just got together and now they're going off as two. Okay. Anyway. Grace, did you, producer Grace, did you allow this? I didn't
Starting point is 00:13:15 know it would go in this direction. Guys, it's a whole new world out there. A lot happened on Brit's weekend, hey? Woo! It was a real wild one. Sorry. Sorry, that's the life I live. I'm in WhatsApp groups. Give us the update. I want to know, did you guys become friends? What happened next? Yes, we're friends. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Perfect. That's my point, Laura. If people are out there, it's really hard to make friends as an adult and I'm just putting this out there for people. Producer Grace joined an adult gardening centre. Yeah, it's a community garden. Oh my god. I'm a volunteer. Yeah, continue. You volunteer. And we've made some lovely friends. We all have hats that say city farmer. How old is everyone in this group? It range, big range. Yeah, it would with a community garden, wouldn't it? Great. All right. There are two types of parents out there. Two don't have some mums, I think specifically. Just two. Yeah, just two. You can whittle them down
Starting point is 00:14:07 into two categories. There's mums who make birthday cakes. It is a labor of love. They plan it. It's meticulous. You know, actually, I shouldn't say just mums. You know, you got your Hamish Blakes. He does a cake off every year. Let's say parents. Yeah. But I think particularly mums do a lot of it. You know, like my sister, she's a mum who makes a cake for every single kid's birthday. Like it is just part and parcel of like childhood core memories. And then you have mums who are not really cake makers, i.e. me. I'm a cake decorator. I like to buy a Coles pre-bought cake and then I just stick some Smarties on it and I upscale it. The reason why I'm talking about this is because on the weekend, one of my girlfriends, she was telling me about how
Starting point is 00:14:47 she, and she's like a big cake maker. Like she like loves her kids' birthdays. No kid has ever gone without a cake being made. And it was her daughter's first birthday, right? So she thought, what better way to celebrate my kid's first birthday than doing a beautiful number one cake, iconic, simple, going to do some like cute little freckle flowers all over it, going to give it a little green stems with little beautiful leaves on there. And then she outlined the whole thing in pink. And when she showed me the cake that she made, it reinforced that this is the reason why I don't make cakes. I want to show you this, Britt, and I want you to instantly describe to me what you think it is. Okay. It's a giant penis. Oh my God. It's a, it's a pea.
Starting point is 00:15:35 When you put it on the side, especially. No, any direction. You don't have to put it on the side. It kind of unfortunately came out of the oven a little bit tilted. So the one, instead of having like you know like a serif tip to it it certainly has a tip but it's so unfortunate we're gonna put this on the pickup social so you have to go and see it you can find it on instagram the pickup but honestly it's just so unfortunate even the freckles and the detail look like it's part of the yeah i words that we can't use on radio at 3 p.m there's a reason i don't cook either like i just get pre-made meal sent to my door i'm going to show you a photo i tried to bake a cake for my sister's birthday now my sister and i'm best friends we traveled the world together for three
Starting point is 00:16:16 years like we did this big round the world trip and the reason i say that is because i tried to do like an travel inspired cake for her birthday so this is what it was supposed to be laura so it's a it's a blue cake so it looks like you're in the sky and then this is a hot air balloon that's made out of biscuits and then it's got a big balloon on the top so then it's got covered in clouds like and there's two little dolls in it that are supposed to be representative and you're supposed to be like travelling through the air. Yeah, this cake that Britt's showing me right now is a very ambitious, that looks like an ambitious undertaking for someone
Starting point is 00:16:47 who doesn't make cakes. Oh, here's my cake. Oh, dear. It's actually such a mess and I tried to put, that's a little cutout photo of us. Why did you put origami cranes around it? That's the birds flying in the air because we're supposed to, I'm going to put it up on the pick up.
Starting point is 00:17:05 It's supposed to be like, okay, it's a mess. It looks like a two-year-old made it. It's actually disgraceful. It looks like a pillow with a turd on top. Anyway, I understand the pain that your friend feels. Cake fails. I've never come close to making what she made, especially for a one-year-old.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Couldn't be more inappropriate. No, I mean, this is still pretty bad, though. You could have just bought this, unfortunately, Britt. Anyway. I couldn't buy that. Okay, people, send us, though. If you've ever had a cake fail, we want to see it because some people do them so well.
Starting point is 00:17:33 You know that whole cake or not trend? Yeah, they're amazing. And then there's that. Then there's Brittany Hockley's abomination. laura you've been through some breakups in your time mate haven't i ever uh more than anyone i know actually settle down no but you oh that's not a bad thing you you dated a lot yeah i kissed a lot of frogs to find my prince yeah you don't have to be defensive about that it's not a bad thing i couldn't get a boyfriend that was my problem some of them are nice and were nice some of them
Starting point is 00:17:58 were absolutely horrible and useless turds yeah well in any of those breakups did they ever ask for anything back like you know when you split up you might have lived together whatever you break up did you ever ask them for anything back or did they ever ask you for anything back I was always the person that walked away from the relationship and didn't want anything from it so like I remember I broke up with one of I did the breaking up as well so I think I felt a bit guilty we'd been together for a few years we had furniture together we lived together and I remember when I broke up with him I was like do you know what you keep everything I'll take nothing because I felt so guilty however i did go through one breakup and i uh i took his credit card details and i may have
Starting point is 00:18:37 taken some money but that's because he owed me money and there's a big backstory to that one and i i think i would have won if it had gone to court i think it'll be fun you would not take him to court 10 years statutory limitations whatever it's called you can't sue me now ha ha that also doesn't exist laura's done so many criminal things and she just goes it's been 10 years no okay the backstory to this is this dude he crashed my car we'd been together for quite a few years. Because we were together, I was like, don't worry about paying anything. I'll just pay it. And then two weeks later, I found out he was cheating on me. So I was like, you can pay for my car. And he refused to. So I just deducted it from his credit card through my business. It's the end.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Well, the reason I ask is I mean, that's pretty bad. But I think this is worse. This happened back in 2006. But it's making the rounds again. So it's like, it's quite an old story. But there's this couple in the US that were married for a really long time. And the wife unfortunately got really sick. She needed kidney transplants, both kidneys. And she did the transplants and they didn't work. It was devastating. But their marriage was like really under stress because of the pressure of that. And he was looking after her and she was unwell and whatever else. So the husband donated his kidney to his wife to literally save her life and save the marriage. And amazingly, it worked. Fast forward a little bit and he finds out that
Starting point is 00:19:55 she's been cheating on him. So he gave up a kidney and she had been cheating. Oh, that's rough. Yeah. So in the divorce, didn't want anything else. He asked for the kidney back. No, because you know, no, that seems wildly unethical. You know that's going to kill her.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I understand that cheating does make you feel a bit different about people. Like I wanted my money after I found out my ex was cheating on me. But if I'd given him a kidney, I don't want death. Well, especially because she only had one. Only one worked. Yeah, you can't. Did this go through court? Like no one, no normal human is going to look at that situation
Starting point is 00:20:28 and be like, oh, yep, cheating, divorce. Guess you should die for that. Give an organ. So he obviously knew that no one was going to award him a kidney. So he said either you give me the kidney or the value of the kidney and he put the value at $1.5 million US dollars, which I don't even know where you pull that from. But interestingly, or actually probably pretty obviously,
Starting point is 00:20:49 the court ruled that any organ may not be exchanged for value. but also you're putting real tickets on yourself if you think one kidney is 1.5 million how much do you think your total self is worth yeah how do you break it down organ by organ and put an individual number from yeah I think if you're going to give your organs to someone it has to be an altruistic gift that knowing that even if the relationship breaks down or whatever happens there you've done it because at one time you cared about them but it is a bit rich to take a kidney and also be having an affair at the same time like that's pretty bad it wasn't simultaneous Yes, she gave it 18 months and then she had the affair.
Starting point is 00:21:24 She got better and then she got well enough for an affair. Hey, we've got Liv on the phone. Hey, Liv, what did your ex ask for back? My ex asked for a bottle of oyster sauce that I threw out when we were moving out. And then when I wouldn't give it back to him, he asked me to transfer $7 to cover it. No.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Oyster sauce? What brand? Why was he so attached to it? Does it matter? I feel like you're really running the mill like, I don't know, I am or whatever it probably can't say brand names but yeah literally just the run-of-the-mill oyster sauce hang on to be clear he asked for nothing else none of the furniture the white goods nothing like sentimental he just wanted the oyster sauce well to be fair he did actually want
Starting point is 00:22:06 something else back he also asked for his packet of satay sticks oh he's got a problem no do you know what this screams to me of you know when someone will just find any excuse to try and reach out and get back in touch with their ex like he's he's lost the plot because this is All this does is double down on why the breakup was important because you're like, oh, this is what I was going to do. But it's not rational. It's just they're just so desperate to get some sort of reply that they write crazy stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Did you transfer him? Did you Venmo him? To be fair, I did because I was like, I can't be bothered with this. I don't want to see you again. I'm going to keep your oyster sauce and I made a very good meal out of it. Well done. I hope it was delicious. Yeah, you showed him.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Thanks, love. Laura, a tale as old as time. that women have been lumped with basically the responsibility of everything in the household. That's a bit much. The poor men in the cars who are like, mate, I do stuff too. Okay. Not the household. With the responsibility of contraception. I should have been more specific. For as long as we could remember, the responsibility has been on women to take the contraceptive pill to stop a pregnancy. Obviously there are other forms that we're not going to get into detail right now. Well, there's everything. The Mirena,
Starting point is 00:23:14 like all of that stuff. Like the one that you can get injected into your arm. Yeah. It all falls on women, but there has been some brand new research and I want to get your take on it. We are looking imminently at a male contraceptive pill. They've been talking about it for about two decades. No, they stopped it. So back in 2016, they had developed one. They trialed it with men and men complained of having reactions. Now, mind you, the reactions were like a headache, a bit of acne, a bit of bloating. So they stopped it, bless their souls. They stopped developing the pill and they've started to work on something else. They've come up with something that has had zero effects on their testosterone, their sex drive or their hormonal imbalance. So
Starting point is 00:23:54 it's really safe for men to take and it's looking to hit the shelves in like the end of next year or early 2027. That's amazing. My question is, would you entrust Matt, your husband, solely with the responsibility of contraception to take this thing? I don't know the details. I don't know if it's like every day or once a week or I don't know what it's going to look like for them. But I feel like it's something we've always wanted. We've always wanted to be like, hey, you should have that responsibility. But now that it's here, I'm not convinced I would trust it.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Matt's a pretty good admin man, like in terms of my life. Like he runs our household. He's the person who makes sure the bills are paid and the lights are on and the electricity is done. Like he's really good at admin. So I would trust him to take – I mean, if he can take a protein shake every day, he can go and get a male contraception. but I and maybe this is too much information but we're a sharing show I got pregnant with my first
Starting point is 00:24:47 on the contraceptive pill so it was like completely by accident and the contraceptive like women's contraceptive pill is not 100% effective all of the time it can be affected if you've you know lots of things can affect it apparently they say in normal day-to-day use it's 93% effective around there. And so 99%, but they say in the real world, 93, in case you forgot to take it for a couple of hours, or maybe you had vomiting or something like that. But generally speaking, the effectiveness, if used perfectly, is supposed to be 99%. Yeah, but even 99%, still 1%. That's one in every 100 people are still getting pregnant when they're on the pill, which, you know, when you think about it from a timing perspective, and I remember going
Starting point is 00:25:26 into my GP and I was really upset. And I was like, I don't know how this has happened. I'm on the pill. And she was like, well, when you think about that statistic over the time, you've been on the pill for 17 years. She's like one in 100 people. She's like, it's actually, that statistic is not that improbable when you think about it. And so I think it's a really great secondary point for like, you know, for protection, because I think if your husband's doing it and you're also doing it and you're both on the same page, then you've really like, it's not, you're not going to have any accidents, are you? Well, I just think it's interesting when you think, if you haven't been on the pill and it's different for everybody. But when you think of the effects that you have
Starting point is 00:26:03 as a woman, which can range from like small things, just like pains and sore breasts and skin problems and hormonal, everything. But there's a lot of serious things too, like blood clots and heart attacks, strokes, high blood pressure. Like there's so many things attached to the pill, but we just have never really cared. We've always just been like, oh, well, that's just how it is. So I think it's brilliant that someone's actually put some time, money and effort into trying to make something available for men. I just am interested to see how it's going to land and how many men are going to say, you know what, I'll do that. Yeah. And look, I think my opinion on this is, and everyone's going to be different. Every woman's
Starting point is 00:26:38 going to be different because it is a burden that the sole responsibility for contraception usually falls on the woman. However, I would trust my husband. Would I trust some guy that I've been barely dating? No. It's like, yeah, I'm on it. No way. And the thing is, you wish you could, but at the end of the day, pregnancy is going to affect a woman. It's going to affect me way more that's going to affect him. I'm the one that has to make choices and live with the decisions and potentially have another kid.
Starting point is 00:27:02 So I think I can trust my husband. If you can't trust your husband, you probably should reassess. Yes, I think the responsibility needs to be on all parties involved. It takes two to tango. That's what I was trying to say. Say that 10 times fast.
Starting point is 00:27:12 It does take two to tango. Britt, did you ever play knock and run as a kid? Hundy, only once though. I always used to feel really bad for it. Like that I was disturbing the neighbours. I don't know. That's the whole point.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I was such a nerd. I was a real nerd. like I was a bit of a goody goody. But in a nice way you weren't like a boring goody goody but you like to follow the rules when you're a kid. I just don't like to make people uncomfortable and like I was like oh I don't want to play that prank that's really nasty on them but in hindsight it obviously wasn't. When you think about it I feel like knock and run is like it's a very core childhood thing. We all know we shouldn't do it. We all know it's a bit naughty. You have to do it at least once. But you gotta let kids live a little and let them push some boundaries and I came across
Starting point is 00:27:51 that honestly it was the most heartwarming cutest video that's on socials at the moment and it's about, they call it Ding Dong Ditch in the United States. So I'm guessing that this is where it comes from. But you know how a lot of people now have the door cams. So like when people come to your door, it actually records what's happening and who's there, which makes it very hard for kids who are playing knock and run. But have a listen to this. Oh, crap. Can I help you? No. What are you doing here? I'm really sorry. I was going to Ding Dong Ditch you guys. Does your dad know you're out here doing this? I will call him right now.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Yeah, he does know. I doubt that. What's the holdup? I've been caught! Well, run! Is that your dad? Yeah. He goes ding-dong-ditching with you?
Starting point is 00:28:39 Yeah, he says it's a core childhood memory and he wants to be a part of it. Run! Gotta go! I gotta go. Actually, it's actually so wholesome, So I'm just how honest he is. He's like, oh, you got me.
Starting point is 00:28:53 He's just a good kid. Like that is a good kid. That's what I would have done. I would have just given myself up. But I also, I listened to that and I'm also like, that's a really good dad. Like that's, who cares if you're going and knocking on someone's door and being a bit inconvenient.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Like that's a dad who's like, okay, when I was a kid, I used to do this and it was fun. I'm like, let's go and do it together, you know. But also, what are you waiting for, right? He's like, that's the whole point. It's so funny. I thought it was so cute. It took me back to like when we were little
Starting point is 00:29:18 and like the real nostalgia piece. we used to do so many dumb things that were like obviously you shouldn't do when it was naughty like we'd prank call our neighbors and then hang up on poor Olga she'd be like stop calling me oh my god I didn't even do that but you know my brothers did once it's actually I probably shouldn't even say it makes them sound so bad when they were like quite young I don't think they understood the severity of it but they like hung fishing line up between two trees and they were trying to make the local bully chase them and they were going to duck under the fishing line and the bully was supposed to run into it and he was going
Starting point is 00:29:49 to get really hurt. But obviously their plan failed miserably. Like coat hanging by the fishing line. Yeah, like coat hanging. My dad lost it. It's so dangerous. We used to do something similar but without the fishing line. So when we were really little, we would stand on either sides
Starting point is 00:30:02 of the road and we would pretend like we were holding like an invisible rope as a car would drive past. And there was not a single person who ever looked at these two little girls and thought, oh, yeah, they're really holding fishing line. They would pretend and be like, oh, so scary. and we really thought we got them. Looking back now, the problem is, is when we would call up
Starting point is 00:30:21 and do like ring up and hang up on people, prank calls, that was around the time that caller ID came in. So like we didn't realise, but Olga, our next door neighbour. It was you. So no, she didn't know. For a long time she had one of those old like the phones that you would stick your finger in and then you've got to like round the numbers around.
Starting point is 00:30:36 But then I think because we were prank calling her so much, she got a digital phone and so the number would display. So we'd call her from the landline and she had our landline number programmed into her phone and she called my mum and was like, you're bloody children. But some of this is like legitimate childhood. Like they've got to go through it. Yeah, because now kids sit online.
Starting point is 00:30:55 They're using chat GPT. They're on YouTube. They're playing video games. I know. They're missing out. They're missing out. Very screen based. Although there were some kids staying at the hotel I was staying
Starting point is 00:31:04 at on the weekend and they got me good. And I was really kind of annoyed by this until I watched that video and I was like, it changed my mind. So I woke up in the morning from, you know, we were staying. From sleep. Well, from sleep. It was a big night. No, we're staying in this hotel, woke up in the morning
Starting point is 00:31:20 and as I was going off for the day, I put my clean up my room thing on there because I wanted new towels. I wanted a fresh minibar. Like I was excited to come home to a perfectly cleaned room. And as I was walking back to my room like at the end of the day and we got in really late, I saw that my please clean up my room thing had been switched around the other way. And I know it's so stupid and it's nothing, but I opened my door
Starting point is 00:31:42 and no one had come. Nothing had been done. And the little kids that were staying next door, I was like, I bet you it was them. But maybe it was the cleaner. Maybe it was like, I'm done for the day. I'm just going to flip this around.

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