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Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura.
I'm Brittany.
I'm Mitchell.
And Mitch is here because this is our pick-up show.
It's where we package up all the best bits of our radio show for the week.
And, you know, you would think that we've had enough of each other this week,
but we haven't.
We love each other.
Well, it's not even this week.
We're in each other's pocket every day anyway with work.
Now we're on the tour, so it's extra.
We're having sleepovers.
We're having slumber parties.
It's been a batch of pajamas.
We actually all get along, like, strikingly well.
You sound surprised, Mitch.
No, because even like my – you know, like you think siblings.
We've all got heaps of – well, siblings, heaps of siblings actually.
but like you fight I put you guys in the bracket of siblings like that like I love you yes yes yes
and I and I feel like we can because we do argue and we can fight but then we move through really
quickly but you know that's what happens I think unless you have a and I'm sure it must exist in
other workplaces but when you're co-hosts with people and you spend so much time together
it's almost like a romantic relationship but without the sex like we're like and we're like
an old married couple we're like a little polyamorous relationship that's been together
for like four years.
Friends, Laura.
Just friends.
No, I get what you mean.
Because like, yeah, maybe.
I don't look at you guys like I'm in a relationship
with you with no sex.
Just to be clear, like you guys are my friends.
No, but I feel like you-
We're not intimate in any capacity.
I like my sister more than just like my friend.
Do you know what I mean?
Yes, which is not an intimate relationship with no sex.
I also don't fuck my sister.
That's true.
No, no.
It's great.
We had the Perth show, guys, a couple of nights ago.
Brie moving on.
Look at Brie.
Because I'm like, it's so stupid.
She wants to get out of it.
We had a Perth show, which was absolutely incredible.
Like Perth were such an incredible crowd.
And we have the Sydney show tonight, which I think is the one I'm probably,
I don't know if it's nervous or excited or the one that I think is the impending doom for me the most.
And the reason I say that is because it's the only show really where like all my family and people I know are coming.
So I'm talking like my mom and dad, multiple aunties and uncles, loads of friends.
I've got cousins.
Like, no one's ever seen me do anything before.
Like, I don't even know if half of them know what I do.
So it's going to be a – and I'm talking a lot of sex.
Like, a lot of sex.
The show is wild, and now that you've said that,
if I had to reckon with the fact that my father would be in the audience
of the live show listening to me talk about having sex with my boyfriend,
I would probably want to die.
So I don't know why.
Thanks, Laura.
Thanks.
Why did you invite me?
Because, like, you know what?
He knows his little girl gets down and dirty.
He knows she has sex.
He's heard it on the podcast.
But he's not silly.
I'm 36 years old and we're all friends and family,
but it still doesn't change the fact that deep down I know they're there.
Yeah.
Do you reckon you're going to be able to still deliver?
Yeah.
100%.
I'm going on.
That's my girl.
You make daddy proud.
Ew.
Don't say daddy.
You're a creep.
No, it's different.
Don't make daddy proud.
Daddy's different to dad.
Hey, it lands different.
Daddy.
Make dad proud.
Make daddy proud.
Oh, if you want to be called dad in the bedroom,
that's different to daddy.
Yeah.
Dad needs to be unpacked.
Daddy can be celebrated.
No, neither.
No, no, no.
I like daddy.
No, you're like, call me daddy.
That's like kind of sexy.
But if you're like, yeah, if you're like, call me dad.
Call me your father.
I want to be daddy.
What if someone was like, call me Terry Byrne?
I'd be like, oh, probably a bit problematic.
Can I tell you what happened?
I went to Peter Alexander because I got a $50 gift card for my birthday.
And I bought Father's Day.
Context.
I bought Father's Day pajamas that say World's Best Daddy on it because I thought they were funny.
So I wear them every night.
That's so weird.
World's Best Daddy.
But I also like it.
Yeah, it's kind of hot, right?
All right, and then do you wear it and when you're having sex with someone,
tell them to call your daddy?
No, I go, just read the shirt.
I don't want to have to say it.
No one, if anyone ever says to me, call me daddy,
I would exit the building.
I'd do it, but I have daddy issues.
Okay.
Okay, well, let me tell you what's in the show today.
Speaking of daddies.
Speaking of my dad, we actually are speaking to my dad.
Papa Tony Hawk, Big Papa Tones is coming on.
Daddy Tones.
Daddy Tones, the reason is he and my mother just celebrated,
my mum Nikki, just celebrated their 45th wedding anniversary.
So 45 years.
That is, when I think of like, okay, I'll round myself down a year.
I'm 35.
They have been married 10 years longer than I have existed on this earth.
That to me is wild.
And they're happy.
They're like, somehow they've beaten the odds
and they just froth each other.
He's so in love with her and hearing him talk about it is actually beautiful.
And because I'm single, he gave me some love tips too.
Yeah, we wanted to know like what the magic potion was, you know,
like not the magic potion but like some tips.
Well, leading into that, I am single.
I'm dating and I went on a date on the weekend with someone
who is seven years younger than me.
There's a seven-year age gap.
They're 21.
I'm 28.
And it's very early in the sort of relationship.
It's not even a relationship.
It's just someone I'm dating.
But he kept bringing it up on the date.
So I pulled the room.
I was in a cocktail bar and I went, screw it.
I'm going to ask everyone in this cocktail bar who they think is older.
And the results, they did not sit well.
So that's such a childish thing too.
It's like, how old do you think I am?
But I'm the older one.
Yeah, you could have been in that moment, the 21-year-old.
Also, though, I know we've talked about age gaps quite a bit.
And if you listen to the podcast,
you would know that we don't actually care about age gaps.
But I do think that age gaps in your 20s are more significant than other years.
Why?
Why, why?
Because your 20s is the time of life where so much growth happens, right?
It's where you figure out who the fuck you are,
what you want to do with your life, where you want to be.
And so if you're dating someone who already has all those things figured out,
you can be easily moulded into their dreams and wishes
and not have the ability to find your own path.
That's my thoughts about it.
They're very formative years.
Yeah.
And the frontal lobe is still developing.
Yes, it is.
Yes, it definitely is.
All right.
Well, I talk about bushweeds,
so nothing enlightening or exciting.
No, if that's not a hook, I don't know what is.
Yeah, look, Lola, she goes through these phases
of being obsessed with new things.
If you've listened to Matt's podcast,
he's been recently speaking about the technique of bushwees.
Lola is now a bushwee kid who refuses to use a normal toilet
and, look, things didn't go so well at the park the other day.
I love how you say bushwees like it's an Australianism.
It is.
No one else does bushwees.
Yeah, that's true.
You've made it up.
Nah, kids do bushwees.
It's a thing.
All right, anyways, let's get into the show.
Now, my little Lola, she's two years old.
She, I mean, two is such a good age.
It's a really funny age because they go through these little periods
where they become obsessed with different things.
Do you remember when I was telling you recently how Lola got obsessed
with wearing underwear on her head?
It was my favourite phase of hers.
Laura, not only did you tell us, you showed photos
and we posted them to the pick-up page.
Everyone has seen them.
Poor Lola.
Not only that, because it wasn't like a one-off.
Like this kid, one day she just woke up and I tried to put underpants
on her bottom and she was like, I'll put a pair on my bottom
and I'll put a pair on my head and then that
was it. She wore that, or not the exact
pair, but every single day, every waking
minute, the kid had a pair of undies on her head.
Now, at the moment, we're going
through a new phase, a new obsession that she has.
Her newest thing is that she
is, she's toilet trained. Like, the kid is great.
She never needs a nappy unless it's
night time, but she's all over it now.
But she's decided out of nowhere
she doesn't really want to use a toilet.
She would prefer to do a bush wee.
Well, I think that means they're not toilet trained, Laura.
I think that's the opposite of toilet drain.
She's not doing it.
Wait, wait, wait.
No, she is.
She's not doing it in the house.
She's not doing it in her pants.
She knows exactly when she wants to go.
She just has a preference, and that's being out in nature.
She wants to go out into the garden and pee behind a jacaranda bush.
I just need to point out the fact that you don't live on property.
You live in the middle of a populated city.
It's a suburbia.
The way that Laura says it is like, yeah, bush weaner, kangaroos,
and bottle brush.
On the farm.
I can see your neighbor's kitchen from your house.
I've been in your backyard, Laura.
Literally, there's so much concrete.
It's full on suburbia where we live.
But we do have a little bit of a garden.
We've got a backyard where there's some grass now.
We never used to have grass and we moved into a new place
and it has a backyard.
So she has become obsessed and I would say 90%
of daytime wheeze are done in the garden.
I think you've figured out, you know how Laura had
that big conundrum where she's like,
all the plants in my yard are dead.
I can't figure it out.
I'm pretty sure this is it.
Hold on, hold on.
We need to backtrack, Laura.
90% of daytime wheeze is so much.
So do you just go, where's my child?
Oh, she's popping a squat above the jacaranda bush.
I just don't really care.
Do you know what?
I'm really –
You've given up.
Most of the time it's fine.
But every so often when we're at the park or whatever,
she'll do the same thing.
She'll say, Mum, I've got to do a bush wee.
And I'll say, darling, there's a toilet right there.
And then she finds me on it and I'm like, oh, fine,
go behind that bush over there.
So public indecency got it.
Yeah, she's two.
She can get away with it for a bit longer.
But anyway, we were at the park a couple of days ago and I had Marley.
She was with me on the slides and Lola was like,
Mummy, toilet, Mummy, toilet.
And I was like, okay, well, go get your daddy
and he'll take you to the toilet.
And she's like, okay.
So she walks over and I just assume she's gone to go and get dad
to take her to the toilet because we are in the park
and there's lots of people.
And this little bit of time passes and this woman comes up to me
and she goes, oh, excuse me, I think your daughter's going to the toilet.
And I was like, oh, yeah, sorry.
She's just doing a bushwee.
It's not that weird.
Standing at the park bushwee.
And they all are, of course.
But kids do, right?
Little kids will do a bushwee at the park.
It's fine.
And she goes, oh, okay.
The woman walks away.
But I could tell something was like she obviously had a bee in a bonnet
about the bushwee.
She wasn't cool.
She's not a cool mum, okay?
She had an issue with it.
Not like you.
Anyway, a couple seconds later, she comes back over and she goes,
I'm so sorry to interrupt you.
I know you said your daughter's going to the toilet,
but she's doing a poo behind the swings.
And Lola.
She took a park dump.
She went from bush pee to park dump.
She didn't even go behind a bush.
She did a poo in the middle of the park behind the swings.
You created a monster, Laura.
Laura, you've enabled her.
Now she's just taking dumps anywhere.
Oh, my God.
Everyone's like, who's that child going down a slide?
Oh, wait, no, it's a turd.
We had no toilet paper.
no nothing
don't even take
baby wipes with us
anymore
and my kid did a
dump in the park
I actually am shooketh
you are going to
start to get some
proper complaints
what do you pick it
up with
you gotta pick that up
you don't leave a
dump in the park
I went and got a
poo bag
a dog bag
a doggy bag
I took the doggy bag
and picked it up
and then tried to
also wipe the bum
with the doggy bag
anyway we had a chat
I told her she could
do bush wheeze
but she can't do
park poos
has she accepted
these rules
she's two
she doesn't care
what I say
Still with her team.
Yeah, she's in negotiations.
She's going to be leaving.
You know how like most kids when you leave like the cookie crumbles
so you know your way?
It's just like down the slide there's a poo trail,
then on the swings there's a poo trail.
There she is.
Oh, the burn children.
You know, they're a special breed.
I have got some good, great, wholesome, loving news
that I want to share with the world, but it's not about me directly,
but it directly affects me.
My mum and dad, Nicky and Tony Hockley,
just celebrated their 45th wedding anniversary.
I don't know if you have any music over there, Mitch.
Yeah, it's beautiful.
45 years.
Obviously, they've been together a few years longer than that.
And I think like the most important part is they're actually still happy
and in love and they hold hands, they write notes,
and they're like hashtag goals.
Britt, you always speak so incredibly highly of both your parents.
And it's really beautiful.
As someone who's both my parents got divorced when I was really young,
I think I grew up thinking that that wasn't real like that parents couldn't possibly still be
together that length in time and actually still love each other and be happy all those years down
the track and it's honestly every time you talk about your mum and dad it's so beautiful well the
thing I love I mean I love a lot of things the thing I love the most is I love their story on
how they met and it's this age old you know when you say to someone how did you know they were the
one and like you just know when you know you know and you're like what does that even mean
this is my parents story and i'm gonna give you the short version but they were pretty young i
think dad can attest to this 19 or 20 or something and my mom was in a relationship with someone else
she'd been with him for a couple years um she thought she was going to spend her life with him
and then my mom's sister so my auntie they were really close right my mom's sister didn't like
my mom's partner that much so my mom's sister calls up and she goes hey nikki i haven't seen
you in a while let's have a girl's night mom's like oh that's nice she's like let's have dinner
and drinks so meet me here at this time so mum turns up to have this girl's night quote unquote
with her sister and she walks in and sitting down is her sister her sister's partner yeah and then
another random guy oh she's sitting there going i know what's going on here she's a matchmaker
yes and my auntie was trying to even though my mum was taken my auntie was trying to stitch it up
so my mum is just so lovely and polite she's like i know exactly what's going on but i'm not going
to be rude to this person i'll sit down i'll get through this torturous dinner and i'll leave
and back to my boyfriend back to my boyfriend who I love yeah so she had the best intentions
my dad must have been a bit of a Casanova but by the end of the night my mum just says like
well they both say but mum was like I just knew I just knew that this person that I've just met
was the person um my dad asked her out at the end of the night and she's like give me a week
because she's like I didn't want to do the wrong thing by her partner she kind of still did but
Is that all it took?
She didn't.
It was a complete setup.
But she said, like, sometimes you meet someone
and she's like, there was something there.
And I tell you what, lucky she did because 45 years later
that person was my dad.
I just thought, I feel like what you can all do
is some tips for longevity in a relationship.
Like, everyone wants to know how to have that golden relationship
that spans the time.
Well, I'm single.
I'm looking now.
Laura, you and Maddie J every week on the show,
you go, we're on the brink of divorce.
No, we're not on the brink of divorce.
But I do think, Britt, I agree.
People want to know what's the secret sauce that keeps relationships together
because you either grow together or you just grow apart.
Totally.
Let's call my dad, Papa Tony, as I fondly refer to him,
and see what some tips are.
The Casanova himself, love bug, Tony Hockley.
Happy anniversary, you dirty dog.
Hello.
Hi, mate.
How are you?
Hi, Tony.
Now, Dad, we want to know some of the tips to a happy, healthy relationship.
Keep it in mind, it's 3 p.m. and I'm your daughter,
so don't give me too many.
Look, simply the secret to a long-lasting relationship
is utter and total capitulation.
Oh, what?
All right, for all the people who don't know what that means,
break that down.
Or you just give in.
You go, yes to you, yes to you, yes to you.
Oh, be a yes man.
Happy wife.
Happy wife.
All right, that's a good tip, number one.
Oh, Tony, look at him being Cupid.
All right, next tip.
Okay.
Look, the next tip, really, the next tip, I think,
is just to keep your...
Look, you've got to think that, you know, she's your mate and, you know,
do you really like this person?
Are you friends to start with?
Yeah.
And we've always said that it would be really, if we weren't married
and we still, you know, knew each other,
it would be a really difficult relationship for our spouses
because we would just be friends.
Like you mean like you're really good, you're best friends regardless.
Yeah.
One last tip for a long-lasting relationship, Tony Hockley.
What is it?
One last tip is what I'm going to do today is going to be beneficial
and make her life better.
Oh, Tony, I love that.
Wow, what a man.
What a man.
I'm sending that audio to Ben, my boyfriend,
on the other side of the world.
No, that's really sweet, and that is true.
You guys are goals.
You're a good man, Tony.
We're all happy for you here at The Pickup.
Do these tips work for man-on-man relationships too, Tony?
Mate, I'm sure they would.
I don't think Dad knows.
Hey, mate, love is love, dude.
Oh, God!
So good.
So good.
Did you see what I did there?
Yeah, no, I did.
I did.
Tony Hockley taking over the pick-up.
Yeah.
All right.
Happy anniversary, you guys.
Britt, Laura, you know I'm on the dating scene.
I'm back on the apps.
I'm single.
Yeah, you've been having some successes too, my little Mitch Turey.
We're all living vicariously through you now.
Because Laura and I have settled down.
It is this guy that I'm currently seeing.
He's gorgeous.
He's very sweet.
Just a couple of dates, like five or six dates.
So it's at that point where it's like, we've got to make a choice.
What way do we go?
Are we going to end this or are we going to have a chat about what's next?
Anyway, the only issue I can see between the two of us is that he's very cute,
very nice, we get along, good banter.
I'm 28, he's 21.
He's so young.
Seven years.
Look, I know seven years isn't that big of an age gap.
I just think 21-year-olds, and this is a very blanket statement,
but they don't always want the things that a 28-year-old wants.
There's a lot of life that happens in your 20s,
which I think is a really important part of life.
Yeah, I wanted to drive to the date and he wanted to get the train
because he doesn't have a car.
Anyway, we go to this restaurant.
It's really nice.
It's a cocktail bar and we're there, we're ordering
and the banter is kind of about the age gap between the two of us
because he thinks it's funny.
I think it's a bit annoying that he keeps bringing it up.
So I lean over to this couple next to us
who are on another spa stool at this cocktail bar.
Jazz is playing.
It's an underground den.
And I go, you know what?
I'm going to nip this in the bud once and for all.
So I turn to this young couple,
probably a little bit older than me in their 30s.
Excuse me, guys.
Sorry.
And I got a bit of liquid courage.
I go, look at the two of us.
Look at the two of us.
And you tell me, who do you think is older?
And they go, you.
I didn't even finish the sentence.
I go, who do you think is older?
But they go, you with the brown hair.
I have seen the person you're dating.
Yeah.
I feel like you're setting yourself up to fail.
So I went, no, no, no.
Okay, shut up.
The bartender comes around.
Can I get you boys any more drinks?
I go, yes, you can.
and can you tell me who between the two of us is older?
She taps me on the shoulder.
It's like, this one right here.
Absolutely you.
I'm like, okay, ma'am at the back with your two children.
Come over here, kids.
Hi, kids.
Hi.
Who out of the two of us is an older human?
They all point.
The big one.
The big one.
I don't understand where you're going.
Is this shocking to you, Mitch?
Maybe you have some body dysmorphia
where you think you look younger than you do.
How dare you?
Well, I mean, you don't look like a 28-year-old, Mitch.
You don't look like a 21-year-old.
So what was the purpose of this on-the-spot, spontaneous survey of the room
interrupting everyone's lovely night out?
It was purely to make me feel better about the age gap not being an issue
because in my mind, I don't think it is that big of an issue,
but apparently everyone thinks it is.
What do you guys think?
Well, it's funny you say that because I actually recently came across a study.
Oh, Brit, love a little bit of science.
You know I love to read, I love some science.
No, Mitch, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you.
Just remind me, what's the age difference?
It's eight years.
Okay, eight years.
Whoa.
All right.
It's even worse than we thought.
There's a study that experts have done and there is a correlation between age gaps in
a relationship and how likely the relationship is to break up.
Okay.
And long story short, the bigger the age gap, the more likely you are for that relationship
to not work.
Now, if we go into your category of-
My category?
Well, so five-
Code red.
Of your category of senior, no, five years difference, so five years and above is your
category, is an added
18% on top of
the normal breakup to what odds you
are of breaking up.
18%
more likely. I don't believe
that. So tap out now. I don't
believe it. Do you know, I just think age
gaps matter more the younger you are. So like
if you're a teenager and there's an 8 year age gap,
that is illegal. If you are in your
20s and there's an 8 year age gap, then that just
becomes a bit tricky because there's so much life to live.
If you're in your 30s and there's an 8 year
age gap, not that bad. 60s, no one cares.
61, 69-year-old, you can date all day long.
No one cares.
The age gap, I mean, like, I'm giving you a hard time, Mitch,
but the age gap for my last relationship was seven years
and I was seven years older.
So, like, hell's scandal, oh, Brit.
But the difference was 27 to whatever that is, 35.
Also, the other difference is that you often lie about your age,
so no one knew anyway.
Yeah, he thought I was 28.
But do you know what, Mitch?
That was okay because his frontal lobe had developed.
Okay, very funny.
And he had a bit of life experience and he drove.
So at 21, no, but in all seriousness, 21,
there are studies to say that you are still working out who you are.
There is a woman who's from Iowa and she was caught coming across the border
into the States and she had a little tin that was full of things.
And you know when you go through security and you have to declare what you have,
what you don't have.
You know, you've got to say whether you've brought samples
or you've brought any sort of animal or plant matter in.
she did the right thing. She said,
yeah, I do have something in my suitcase.
Tick. So she goes up
to the gate and they open up her bags
and she's got there this little metal tin and they're like,
well, what do you have inside it? And she opens
it and inside is
giraffe faeces. She
has travelled all the way from Kenya
and brought them back to the homeland
of the United States.
Wow.
Giraffe.
Okay, so I don't know. Is that the Lion King?
Wait, it's Swingin' Safari.
In the jungle.
Why would somebody, you know, just for curiosity's sake,
why, Laura, would someone want to smell the giraffe poo?
Well, I was really hoping you'd ask me, Britt.
So what it is is it's these round, hard balls of poo.
Now, the thing that's so funny about this,
and the reason why I got a real chuckle out of this article,
is because the reason that she gave the officials,
the reason why she brought it in,
is because she had planned on drilling a hole down the middle of the faeces
and turning each individual poo into a bead
and making a necklace out of them,
which she had already done with moose poo.
So the woman wears around a moose poo necklace
and she wanted to have a matching giraffe one.
Is that how customs flagged her?
They're like, hey, this lady came back from Alaska last week
and had moose poo.
Let's just check her bag now she's from Africa.
I mean, believe it or not, I am not an expert in animal poop,
but wouldn't if you had a necklace of poop on your body,
if it's raining or something, wouldn't the rain wash the poop away?
Or if you sweat and then the sweat and the poo would mix together.
Because it's not going to stay whole.
It's not like it's mummified or like...
Actually, Laura, you make jewellery for a living.
Well, this is why I found it so entertaining.
So I'm a jewellery...
My original trade is I'm a jeweller.
Yeah.
And I often...
We have a jewellery store.
We often get the weirdest requests.
So no, you would think that it would just dissolve if it was getting rained on.
What they do is they cover it in like a resin.
So she would have like encased it in something.
Truly made a bead out of giraffe poop.
Oh, of course.
Who wouldn't have listened?
Yes, for silly me.
Like a cake pop almost.
Yeah, just like a cake pop.
like with the icing around it yeah you guys would be absolutely shooketh if you knew the sorts of
things that we have been asked or i have personally been asked to make jewelry out of what do you mean
like what some of them some of them you know are a little bit alternate but fine things like
breast milk a lot of women want to make jewelry out of their breast milk because they want to
turn it into like a stone basically you can mix it with resin you can turn the breast milk into
a stone you can make a ring out of it well yeah because i mentioned the other day that i would
One day we'll probably cremate my parents and put it in a ring or a necklace
and wear it on my heart.
Yep.
See, now I can get that.
That's beautiful.
But boob milk.
We have had lots of requests for cremations.
Yeah, I get that.
But the most interesting one that we had was a woman wanted to preserve.
Her husband was going for a vasectomy and she wanted the last of his swimmers
to be put into a ring so she could wear them forever.
Now, I'm okay with the others, but I was like,
really do not want to receive that sample in the mail absolutely laura what what what do you think
you could do like your creative artistic skills in the jewelry business what do you think you
could do with mitch's foreskin that his mum's kept oh i'm gonna cut it in half make two little
earrings out of it but we will cover it in resin first because we know better we'll dip it i was
very premature that thing could be a toe ring on a pinky toe nothing else i mean yeah we don't want
to see that thing rehydrated let's go let's go home the mental image giraffe poo wombat poo my
Before skim, that's the pick up.
And some swimmers.
I have been at work at this workplace for about a year and a half
and got really good friends with this girl and hung out outside of work,
you know, go to concerts.
But at work, she pretends like she doesn't know me.
That's so weird.
What?
What do you mean?
Like doesn't even acknowledge you?
Doesn't acknowledge me.
And every time, you know, she has to reintroduce herself in front of people.
What?
Oh, my God.
And what, you've spent time with it?
You've socialised outside of work as friends?
Oh, all the time.
So, Grace, have you ever said to her, like, what's going on?
Or has she, do you have a feeling that there's a reason why she's doing this?
Well, I've asked her before, but she doesn't even acknowledge the question.
She moved on and talked about something else.
I mean, she's, I'm going to call it here, but she's not a friend, Grace.
That's not someone you want in your life.
No way.
That's someone that wants to be with you when it suits them for whatever reason.
It's like in a relationship, like friendships or relationships,
you don't want to be with someone that's embarrassed by you
or doesn't want people to know you're friends.
No way.
Yeah, it's crazy.
It's a strange thing.
Also, like Grace, has she, I mean, when you're with her
and you're hanging out outside of work, is she like very engaged in your life?
Like do you hang out one-on-one or is it usually in friendship groups?
Like how is that dynamic when you're not at work?
Perfect.
It's like we're best friends.
It's one-on-one.
She's intrigued with the conversation,
but it's almost she's flipped it at work.
So hold on.
What's the workplace dynamic?
Is she above you?
Are you under her?
We work in different departments.
Do you know what I would do?
I know you've already asked her and she ignores the fact.
Next time you're around a bunch of people,
there's lots of work colleagues around,
I would yell out something like,
oh, hey, Rachel, you left your weenie the poo pyjamas
at my house last night,
but I'll drop them off tonight after work.
How's the gastro from last night's Indian we had together?
and because I've got you some gastro stuff.
Yeah, you know how you asked me for that cream to clear up that rash?
No, but I would make a point of letting everyone know
because what's she going to do then?
She can't be like, what are you talking about?
I don't know you.
Like, just let everyone know.
Just be like, hey, you left that at my house last night.
Whatever.
And then see what happens.
But at the end of the day, I don't think it sounds to me
like it's not a friendship worth pursuing.
If someone feels like they want to pretend they don't know you
in front of other people.
That's not a friendship.
It makes no sense.
The only thing that I come back to, Britt, is like what you said.
Like, is she embarrassed?
and if she feels embarrassed, like, there's more stuff that she has to work on
than what you're doing wrong, Grace.
Totally.
I would be absolutely reconsidering my friendship groups at work.
Yeah, like, I embarrass Britt and Laura, but I think that's kind of –
We still feel like we know him.
Yeah.
Hope that helps, Grace.
Grace, I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry.
That's just awful.
Thanks for the help, guys.
I have a story for you guys, and now you both are going to have different opinions on this.
Okay.
So at the moment, we are spending so much time together.
Now, we got off the plane recently, and we were going through the airport.
Everything was a fluster, but we were all very hungry, and we stopped.
Do you know what story I'm getting at here, Mitch?
I feel like you are, and I feel this is a setup.
We were all a little bit hungry, so we walked up to this cafe,
and I ordered my sandwich, and Britt ordered her sandwich,
and then Mitch ordered his sandwich.
And he's chatting away, and he's not paying attention.
He's barely talking to the lady who is the shop assistant
who's getting the sandwiches.
We'd just been on a big flight, and I was tired.
But you were not paying attention to what you were doing at all.
I was hungry, no, no.
You're flipping your card around.
Anyway, she puts the Air Force machine down
and Mitch just swings around, pay passes.
And then the shop assistant goes, oh, my God, I'm sorry, sir.
Sir, she's trying to get your attention.
Sir, you just paid for their meal.
Mitch accidentally paid for the entire meal of the family
that was standing next to him.
Now, this is a lovely family.
They look like they've been on their very first holiday ever
out of their small town.
And they were, like Mitch, his response to that wasn't,
oh, my God, I've made a mistake.
He turns to the family and he says, oh, I've just paid for your meal.
Understandably, they think Mitch is saying, I've just paid for your meal,
willingly, and so they then react to this and they're so grateful.
They're like, oh, mate, thank you so much.
He pats me on the shoulder.
Yeah, at which point.
I think it's important to note here the meal was $39.
This is not a $200 meal.
And my wrap was $8, so I had paid for triple.
Crap was included in that price.
That was the total price of their two meals and yours.
So that has just happened, right?
This man is so grateful because Mitch has led him to be grateful
for the fact of the kind generosity, the pay it forward moment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then Mitch turns around and says, oh, no, no, sorry, mate,
not like that.
Excuse me, can you refund me?
It was humiliating.
No, no, no.
The thing was because he thought he was on some Ellen hidden camera
pay it forward TikTok.
Why did he think that, Mitch?
Why?
Why did he think that?
Well, because I'm a radio presenter, I'm naturally bubbly.
No, because you turned to him and said, I just paid for your lunch.
No, because he went, what's the issue?
Nothing else after it.
No, he said, what's the issue?
And I went, I've just paid for your meal, but I said it in the wrong way.
And anyway, I turned to the attendant and I said, can you please?
Can you please?
You didn't even say it to the poor guy.
I said, can you please process a refund?
And she did.
And I just, and he paid for his own lunch.
Mitch, your literal job is speaking.
So when you say, I just said it the wrong way,
it doesn't fly as much as it would it might for other people.
I think this is fine.
The delivery was terrible.
What's tied to you on, Britt?
I love you dearly, but I've never been more mortified in my life.
And I think in that moment, with how many lunches I've bought you over the years,
that you should have paid it forward.
I think you should have bought their lunch for them.
I haven't seen so much disappointment on their poor faces in a long time.
You set them up and then you pulled the carpet out from under their feet.
You were like, I got your lunch, psych.
Do you think I'm made of money?
They look so embarrassed.
Do you think I'm Warren Buffett or Gina Reinhart?
I'm not made of cash, thank you very much.
You don't need to be.
It's more just, look, you could have handled it differently.
Also, with how much stuff you steal from work,
like cartons of milk and cereals, like you save money on groceries.
How expensive is this handbag right here?
Well, that's my work bag and I saved up for that.
It was on sale too.
How much is the T-shirt you're wearing?
It's a couple.
You're like expensive things.
You could have paid it for it.
These are irrelevant.
Hold on.
Producer Tony out there in the phone room has polled the office,
right or wrong, what's the stance?
Where are we at?
Because I'm stressed.
75% of the offers records you should have left it and paid it forward.
75%.
That's a pretty good stat.
That's a big stat.
It was so embarrassing, Mish.
But you know what, mate?
Do you know what the lesson here is?
If you're ordering something at a cafe, get off your phone for two seconds.
All right, I apologise to Nancy and Gavin.
We'll be right back.
