Life Uncut - Cat calling and Mitch's dating update - The Best of the Pick Up

Episode Date: October 8, 2023

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Life Uncut podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respect to their elders, past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples today. This episode is recorded on Gadigal land of the Aurora Nation. Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. I'm Brittany.

I'm Mitch. And this is our radio show where we package up all the best bits. Everything, the good stuff from The Pickup each week and we bring it right here for you. Do you know what's exciting? We are on tour, baby. So we're officially going on tour. Today is Sunday.

Tonight is our very first night for the Life Uncut podcast tour in Adelaide and I am shitting myself right now. Don't do that. Literally, there's human feces in my pants. Is that the smell? Is that what it is? Yeah, that's what's happening. They're bad in ventilation in this room.

Interesting. I packed, yeah. Don't be anxious. We do like a radio show every week or day. You guys do a podcast every week, twice a week. There's a difference between a podcast alone in a room by yourself and 2,000 people. I'm theatrically trained, guys.

I studied in New York. I performed opera. Yeah, you got the Nicole Kidman scholarship. Can I tell you, every time I think, okay, so Adelaide, you might be listening to this. We could be on stage right now. Who knows? Maybe you're listening to us while we're on stage.

Not ideal. Come to the show. Well, maybe they're not in Adelaide, but yeah, buy your tickets. Get your tickets. Come to the other venues. But the thought, every time I think about the live show, I get excited but I also feel sick. Like I feel instantly a bit nauseous.

What are you the most nervous about? I get that. What is it? It's the moment when you walk out on stage and then you see that you're not just talking to Brit in a room by yourself with no one else around you and it's a sea of faces. I'm more excited than nerves, but of course you get nerves. But nerves are fine, Laura, because nerves mean you care

about something but i just want to tell myself anyway i was gonna say that sounded like you were saying that out loud as an affirmation yeah i say that in the mirror before i go on um no mine is more the pressure of like the expectation to be funny or to be brilliant or whatever it's that expectation of people turning up in the audience and then you're like what if i mean they do expect to be entertained i'm gonna say that they're like guys it's gonna be amazing yeah i'm there for the beauty and the looks, right? That's it. That's the only thing that you're doing. I'm hoping to pick up some regional boys. What happens

on tour stays on tour. We sound like rock stars. Yeah, we didn't talk about what happens by the season tour. No, but we haven't even spoken about it. Are we going to get breakfast every morning together? Are we going to have little chats in bedrooms? Yeah, we're like a family on this thing. Sam Fish is touring with us. He's staying in all the accommodation

with us. We've got our producers. We've got Matty J. We're one huge, big family. So yeah, we're going to be sick of each other by the end of the month. All right, well, that's, I mean, like, that is literally what we're going to be doing tonight and for the rest of the month anyway. So, reminder again, go get your tickets from lifeuncutpodcast.com.au. But let's tell you about what happened on the show today. Oh, I got my dad on the show this week.

Fucking love your dad. He's such a legend. Papa Tony. And that wasn't just for shits and giggles. That was because we were talking about catcalling. You know, when, like, you walk down the street past, like, a construction site or something and they'll yell something or they'll whistle. So we're talking about catcalling and what you could do for a really great response in that situation.

And I remember a moment I had with my dad when we were young and I wanted to talk to him about it. Yeah, I mean, your dad as well. You guys might not know this, but Britt's dad has listened to every single episode. Like he is possibly, I'm talking from like day one, he is possibly the Life Uncut biggest fan. He's my biggest supporter.

He's coming to the Sydney show. He literally hasn't missed an ep. Which is wild to me because the thought of my dad ever listening to this podcast makes me feel physically sick. Would he know how? No, he wouldn't know how. He'll never know how, but he also probably thinks I'm still a virgin.

You've got two children. I don't even think my dad knows how kids are made. Well, he made you, actually. Laura's dad called the podcast, he calls it a pod book. I don't understand. He said, how's your pod book going? How's the pod book been? No, you know what he's asking you, and you're just being rude.

He's asking, how's the pod comma book? Because you've written a book. Yeah, thank you, thank you so much. He's just so in love with you. Do you know what? That's probably exactly what he's doing. Let's give him more credit. pop book not terry burn it's definitely not um look okay i was telling a story on this week's

show about how we are trying to transition we're going through a real parenting milestone we're trying to transition marley from sleeping in the bed with us to sleeping in her own bed and now she has decided that she wants to make a compromise and she's not sleeping in her bed she's sleeping somewhere else you know what's really this is like completely unrelated but like what's really hard about being in a long distance relationship is you never get used to sleeping with someone so you know I feel like it takes when you've been on your own for so long and then you get married or you're in you're moving with your partner you get used to sharing a bed I never get that because I'm always on my own and then I go for a couple weeks at a time

and share a bed and I'm like this is single-handedly the worst moment of my life I'm like and Ben's 6.6 so he takes up the whole bed I'm like do you know what I do every night so like every night Marley comes and gets into our bed so like every night she creeps across the hallway every night she sleeps between us and I'm a really light sleeper so like as soon as she gets into our bed I get up and go into her bed and so Matt and Marley share a bed every night and I sleep in a single bed in the kids bedroom. Wow that's insane. I don't know how you do it. That's too much information about my relationship. Well and then I shared a story about my dating escapades. I'm not the strongest dater. I know I feel like I'm a strong dater. You're getting better. I am getting better.

It's a new concept to me but you guys have added a voice message to my hinge because you can add voice prompts and memos to your profiles now so you two have created one anyway i went on a date and that is the only thing we spoke about and you guys were the topic of conversation and i'll tell you all about that oh i don't know if it's a you're welcome or not we also love that you're dating it makes us so happy what do you mean like i'm some sort of incel no we love you've emerged from your shell yeah that's exactly it not that you're an incel we love that you are out there and you're vibrant and you're getting it oh my it just makes my life easier because you bring the content i'm also not doing it on your couch anymore so thank god you're just happy that

i'm doing it in my own bed oh my god so you know how i moved back in with my parents and i got a new bed because my ex got the bed in the breakup i finally used the bed for sex yeah it got it got for sex do you know on the on literally on last week's episode you talked about how you had it so this is a real full circle story for everyone so proud of you mitch thank you so much so beautiful doesn't have much bounce memory foam i want some springs but that's a we can talk about that you're trying to get a mattress sponsorship right now anyway if you have a mattress that you're trying to hock for Mitch to have sex on, please send it this way. That's just a hock for Mitch to hock.

Please send it to us. All right, let's get into the show. Now, this is something I think that most women are going to relate to because I reckon pretty much every female has experienced this at some point in their life. And that is being catcalled. Just walking down the street and having some guy yell out something stupid out their window. I thought you were going to say we've all been ghosted. That too.

But yes, catcalling as well. Ghosted and catcalling. Some people get catcalled more than others, but I reckon it's something that pretty much all women have experienced at some point in time. Well, to prove your point, I've never been catcalled, and either that means I'm fugly or I'm a man. It's one of the two.

I'll catcall you when you walk out today. Please don't. Please don't. That's a nice, what would they say? That's a nice chin. It's a nice chin, baby, yeah. I don't think that there's ever been a woman in the history of the world who has been catcalled and it has turned

out favourably, that any woman would ever turn around from that sort of behaviour and go, oh, thank you. I was feeling down today, but you really boosted my confidence there. Now, often it happens when you're walking past a construction site or you're walking past a group of men. It's quite a group mentality, I would say. Now, there's this woman on TikTok who experienced it recently. And there is a video that has gone absolutely gangbusters viral because of her clapback and her response. This is what she had to say. This man just cat called me at the front of a construction site. And so I yelled back at him, sorry, I don't have

any change. And the way that all the men on the construction side started laughing at him and pointing at him, it made him feel so shit. It's that simple. Sorry, don't have any change. That's the best way to get back at them, embarrass them in front of their mates. Humiliate them. Yeah, but I think, I mean, for me,

I don't know what this is saying, but it happened to me a lot more when I was younger. And when I'm saying younger, I'm talking like sometimes it was school uniform young. It was so inappropriate. Are you kidding me? No, you'd be walking home from school and you, past the construction site or whatever, and you would be yelled at sometimes people in cars driving past it did happen to me only like a

week or two ago but it's so sporadic now it's not as common but i remember and this is probably why it happens to the younger girls more because you're made to feel so uncomfortable that you don't really respond like now i would probably abuse them back but back then you just want to you feel so small and uncomfortable like i just want to pretend that they're not here i want to walk really fast head down um and no one should be made to feel that way i totally agree with this Brit. Like my experience of being catcalled, I would say started when I was, you know, 15-ish and kind of ended when I got into my mid to late thirties or now-ish. I have not been catcalled at any time in sort of like the last five, six years. And now do I think that I'm still

reasonably attractive at times? Sure. I know I can be, but no one's going to catcall a fully grown woman who can clap back because that's intimidating. They're going to catcall a young girl who is submissive who is intimidated and who doesn't know how to respond because they've not been in that situation before it is not grown women and it's not because grown women are not attractive it's simply because there is a power imbalance that's reshifted for me it's like as much as you would want to yell back you're walking past i just keep walking i don't yeah because you just don't know who's when did it happen to you what's one that you remember as a kid this is actually one i really remember my dad tony tony hockley he's just the greatest dad but he's been

a builder his entire life like he's been on construction sites his entire life and he would never ever catcall anybody and I would put my life on that and I actually remember this one time he was on this big construction site with loads of loads of builders and I was walking past and they obviously didn't know who I was and I remember them his own colleagues catcalling me and I knew that was dad's site but I just sort of ignored them and looked up and then dad had popped his head over the construction site to see what the commotion was and he saw me then he clocked that his own colleagues were catcalling me and he just lost his shit yeah he he did he call did he call them out brit oh he called them out yeah and i wonder if he'd even remember that but i remember

it because i remember being like yes that's my dad like that's my dad he's got my back and um dad's not someone that's like oh i don't want to make a kerfuffle dad would take on 100 people if that were harassing me, do you know? And I just think he's been a builder his entire life and he is respectful. Like we shouldn't be saying, oh, I'm a builder, it's construction, I'm allowed to do this, you know? I mean, I would love to know if that's something

that your dad does remember because they're the sort of moments in life where it probably was, you know, he acknowledged it at the time and then it may be something that is now quite insignificant to him. But that has an impact on you. It has an impact on how you feel when you come out of that, especially as a woman, how you feel when you come out of that experience, to feel what you should

or shouldn't be subjected to. Well, I say we call him, Laura. Why don't we see if he could – you're so right. Papa Tony. Well, he wouldn't need to remember that, but he also might. Papa Tones. Yeah, let's see if he remembers. Is he still on the job site?

He'd be on the job site right now, yeah. He'll be having a 4 and 20 pie. He's yelling at people. Yeah, he of course is. All right, let's get Brit's dad, Tony. Let's go to a break. When we come back, Tony Hockley, our guest on The Pickup. Tony Hockley, Brit's dad.

Hello, mate. Welcome to The Pickup. Dad, we were just talking on the radio about, like, catcalling and how it's more times than not from a construction site. Like, all these builders yell out and they think it's funny to wolf whistle and, like, yell out different derogatory things to women walking past, women and girls, I should say. And it got me thinking, I remember, and I can't remember,

like, I was under 25, I know that. I remember walking past a job site and some guys on the construction site catcalled me and started yelling out at me. and then I remember you poking your head out and it turns out it was your construction site and they didn't know that I was your daughter. I remember that, yeah. Do you?

Oh, you do? Yeah. I'll tell you where I was. It was down here where they used to sell sort of stuffed potatoes for lunch where you go to... Yes, that's exactly where... You were there with Sheridan and your mum. Your sister, yeah.

That's right. And we were building a high-rise. These guys were sort of whistling and carrying on and I wandered over to see what was going on. Actually, I heard somebody say, hey, listen, that's Hocker's wife and kids. That got my interest. Yeah.

So I wandered over there and, yeah, everybody was very, very sheepish about the whole thing. And did you say any, because I guess I never found out what happened on the other side of that. Like, I saw you pop your head out, and then all of a sudden there was no noise coming anymore. Well, no, no, they all knew better. But basically what ended up happening is I said to these guys, mate, what do you feel? Because they all said, oh, sorry, doctor, sorry, doctor, you know, blah, blah, blah.

And I said, well, mate, it doesn't matter. I mean, it doesn't matter that it's a movie. It's my daughter's and my wife's. But if you wouldn't do it, you know, if you're apologising now because it's a movie, what about someone else's daughter? Exactly. Yeah, absolutely. You know, they're going to be fair dinkum, be fair dinkum, don't be, you know. So anyway, that was how it went.

And it made me realise, and prior to that, to be honest, prior to that, you know, I didn't think, I mean, a wolf whistle I didn't think was such a big deal. You know, we had other stuff, you know, and it can get a bit, you know, it's bloody raucous at times. um you know that's not on and that's never been on but when it was my daughter it made me think about it like in a different perspective yeah someone else's this is someone else's daughter every single woman is somebody's wife or daughter or sister so why should it matter if you know them do you find dad now because you've been 30 40 years on the job site do you see in like colleagues

and other people do you see a difference in how often it's happening because i know for me obviously it happened a lot more when i was younger but i don't know if that's just an age thing or if it's actually people are moving with the times and hopefully developing some level of respect. Do you see it's not happening as much? Yeah, absolutely. Oh, that's good. I can't remember the last time that I heard something that was yelled enough for the person

or the woman or the girl to hear it. That's amazing. That's great. I mean, look, good-looking women walking down the street and the blokes are working together and say, gee, wow, look at her. She's nice. But I haven't heard anybody yell or make somebody feel uncomfortable. Not for a year.

Yeah, and you know, I think that the big lesson in this as well is that it's when other men police the behaviour that's happening around them. That's what has the biggest impact. A round of applause for Tony Hockley. You're a good man, Mr Hockley. Someone buy the man a beer. You are a good man, Dad. I love you.

We love you, too. Thanks for protecting me. Aww. We're very excited for our next guests. We've got a couple on the air with us, ladies. Yeah, we do love a bit of love. Oh, yeah, you'll know Anthony Kalea, obviously, from Australian Idol fame.

Aria's galore, number one songs on the Aria's charts. You'll then know Tim, his partner, best known for playing Dan Baker in Home and Away. It is, of course, Anthony Kalea, Tim Campbell. They're heading on tour. They're joining us now. They're so busy. Hello.

Good afternoon. Hi, guys. Guys, hey, the show starts this weekend. Our show also, our live tour also starts this weekend. We are so beyond nervous. How are you guys feeling heading into this? You know what the trick is? A lot of vodka.

Yeah, yeah. No, me drinking, being on stage would just end in me mumbling and probably falling asleep. So I don't think anyone's going to pay to watch that. We'll leave you a little bit of a surprise in the dressing room at the State Theatre. We're not going to fart in there, don't worry. Yeah, so you guys are doing the Up Close and Unpredictable tour.

You guys are obviously a couple. You've done this in May. But where did the tour come from, I guess? Because I loved watching your videos and the girls and I were chatting in the songs during COVID when we were all locked down. You were doing your lip sync videos. Is this where the tour has stemmed from, that success? Pretty much.

Well, that was an idea. Look, it's taken 16 years together to actually put a tour together. We've never done this before. And I guess normally when you go to work, you get away from your partner. Idiots here. where us two guys do our work together. But, yeah, no, look, the show is loosely autobiographical, so we do it in our own songs, but I guess in the messaging too

and the kind of chats on stage. And, yeah, if you follow it on social media, the bathrobes do make an appearance in the show as well. So I can understand. Is it, okay, put it into a category. Is it a stand-up comedy show? Is it a musical biography? Burlesque.

Yeah, burlesque dancing. What are we talking about? Well, look, it's a music concert. I mean, that's what we do. We perform live with our band. We use the same musicians, so there's a lot of solos, duos. But there are some comical moments. And, look, you say burlesque.

I performed in a theatre restaurant, because I say it's loosely biographical, back in the 90s. And back in the 90s, you can do things to people, you know, not anymore. No, hang on, hang on. What did you do to people? I don't think he was supposed to do it back then either, though. Oh, that's probably true too. So let's just say I'll be revisiting my moments

with lots of hen's nights on long tables. But there is a song that I do that I did about 30 years ago and let's just say Gravity's a Bitch and it looks a little bit different now. Let's just say I have seen more of Tim on this tour than I have in 16 years. When we're usually doing, you know, sexy time at home, he tells me to turn the lights off.

On stage, he wants a spotlight and he gets his earrings. I love it. Wow. Now we've gone to the bottom of it. It's actually a strip show is what I'm hearing. Yeah, yeah. Look, to be fair, I actually have two cousins who used to be in Manpower, so we're a very showbiz family.

Got it. I've got a keg, you know. I want to know, it says in your press release that it could end in divorce. This whole tour could end in the demise of the relationship. Why? Why is it going to end in divorce? Because he's a diva to work with.

I've heard the rumours, yeah. No, this is, we've got 19 shows to go. Whoever comes to the shows at the end of this tour, it might be just me or it might be just him because, you know, this is definitely testing the relationship. I'm not going to lie. We also do have separate hotel rooms on this tour. Is that true?

Is that real? I am shook. Because for your voice, you need to rest your voice night after night and f*** off. Why don't we play a quick game? I mean, I love you two as a couple. Should we do a little round of who's more likely to? Yes, absolutely.

Celebritition. Let's go to a break when we come back more with Anthony Kalia and Tim Campbell here at The Pickup. I thought we'd play a round of who's more likely to with the boys, right? Yeah. All right, I'll kick it off. Who's more likely to go skinny dipping? Oh, that's easy.

Tim. He does it all the time. He's the one who's getting naked on stage. We just established. I reckon he's got no problems. Are you an exhibitionist, Tim? Do you like getting your gear off? I'm almost 50.

I'm not getting that much off. Calm down. I don't want to scare people away and ask for refunds. Okay, Tim. All right, who's more likely to ignore a phone call? Oh, me. I do that all the time. Or like a proper screen.

Yeah, but then it's followed up by FOMO and we go, oh, my God, why did they call? Should I call them back? I'll call them back. Yeah, right, right, right. That's the control freak. Okay, who's more likely to eat cereal as a meal for dinner? Yeah, Anthony.

I put my greens powder on it as well and then I go, okay, so I'm sort of getting nutrition and I'm not having too much carbs. It's still Cocoa Pops, Anthony, at the end of the day. I'm pro cereal for dinner, so I've got you back on that one. That's all Britt eats. She lives on cereal for dinner. Okay, all right. This isn't about me.

Who's more likely to get arrested for skinny dipping? No, just arrested. Probably me, to be honest, because I've got less of a filter, so I'm going to be cancelled one day, I'm sure. Yeah, he's got a bit of a temper as well. We're painting Tim in such an unlikable light. I know. Anthony puts greens on his cereal like an angel

and then Tim's running around naked getting arrested. He goes naked and hates the world. This is awesome. It's a great promo line. Okay, who's more likely to apologise first after an argument? Oh, me, for sure. Oh, calm down, will you? No.

Because I'm a person that I go into an argument thinking that I've got this, like I'm going to win this hands down. But he's got a way with words and he was obviously really good in the debating team at school or something like that because I never, ever win an argument and then I just look at him and go, yeah, I'm sorry for f***ing up. And this is why we get kids with that language.

Who would be more likely to survive the apocalypse out of the two of you? Oh, me. I mean, unless the apocalypse has a five-star hotel. Do you know what? This is no offence, but I feel like I could have picked that one as well. Sorry, Anthony, but I was team Tim.

I'll sit on that and rotate. Guys, we love you. If you want to go get tickets, It's up close and unpredictable. Kicks off the day before the Life Uncut tour as well. Yeah. So exciting. Go see them and then come see us.

Yeah, get a double whammy. You kind of look kind of like the female version of Anthony and Tim. We also sleep in separate hotel rooms and don't have beds. Yes. It's perfect. Guys, great to have you on the show. Chookers for the shows, okay? Yeah, good luck.

Congrats. It's going to be amazing. Thanks so much. All right, we're back after this here on The Pickup. So I have been single for a couple months now, back on the dating scene. And I've really, you know, brought you, Brit and Laura, and the pickup listeners along with my journey from breakup to sadness.

You have been hitting the dating scene hard. I have. Well, I'm single now and I've just turned 28. I'm really enjoying it. I told you about my first date after going through a breakup. That was at Kmart. Yep. At 3 p.m. on a Friday afternoon.

Very romantic. You came out of the gate running. Yeah, I'm really learning how this whole thing works, really, at this point in my life. Anyway, I downloaded the dating apps, and you might remember this from a couple weeks ago. you guys, Britt and Laura, recorded a personalised greeting that plays when you open my hinge.

This is what it sounds like. Hello and welcome to Mitch's Dating Profile. This is Laura. And I'm Brittany and we are Mitch's closest friends from the Pick Up National Radio Show here to give you a review. First up, Mitch has an absolutely great sense of humour but often laughs at himself too much, which I think takes away from the joke.

He has a fantastic jawline but you better be into walking because this man does love a hot girl walk and he pretty much walks all the time every day without stopping. Even when he's sleeping. Mitch has a lot of potential, which I'm sure we will fully see once he actually moves out of home. Well done, guys, because can I just say, since that's been on my dating profile,

I've secured three successful dates. I think that that is a wonderful reference from us, just FYI. But also, Britt, I will always vouch for Mitch. Mitch, we can go in there. My name's Mitch. My name is Mitch. I couldn't be bothered to say the whole thing. Britt, I love Mitch.

Michael's the best co-host we've ever had. Who is this guy? Say it is. Well, the thing is, I thought so. I thought, this is good. I'm getting dates. You know, my celeb powers are helping. What's the feedback been?

Are people wanting to book us for speaking jobs? Are people wanting to book you for a date? Nothing yet. I went on a date with this one guy. Gorgeous. Really cute. I'm like, this is great. Banter is electric.

And I said, do you want to meet up? He goes, perfect. Let's meet up. Well, can we fit it around your radio schedule? And I went, oh, that's nice. He knows about the radio show. He's intuitive. He's, you know, switched on.

So we turn up and we get there. And the first thing he says was like, oh, Britt and Laura aren't with you? Oh. On your date? I mean, look, maybe he thought you were going to come as, you know, a little combo deal because we do spend a lot of time together. We're always on your Instagram. We do.

And I thought that's funny. He's referencing the voice message. Funny. And we sit down and we're sitting there. And he goes, oh, yeah, we'll get a drink. Thank you. Orders a drink. And he goes, so how close are you actually with Maddie J?

Oh. Which is your husband, Laura. Yeah, this is getting weird. I go, oh, we're pretty close. I've known him for years. We've been to Bali together. You guys send voice notes to each other all the time. Matt and I are real close.

He goes, finey. And then Britt's boyfriend, Ben, from Scotland, you're friends with him? And I was like, oh, we're really jumping around, aren't we? Yeah, Britt and Ben and I get along. We FaceTime all the time in Scotland, which we do. Britt, you know, we're close. Yeah, I didn't realise how much, actually, until I saw the voice log. Yeah, we're quite close.

I go, finey. Anyway, so what do you do for work? Nothing as fun as yours, my God. And the girl's podcast is doing well. Stop it. They want to date us, not you. All he wants is you. Oh.

He didn't give a shit. Wait, sorry, you got a fanboy. He didn't care about me. You found a fanboy. Yeah, but not a Mitch fanboy. He was trying to get to you through me. Did you bring him? I mean, you know, it's fine.

We could have gone on a date together. I've actually promised him a selfie. So if you don't mind taking a little cameo. So did you call him out on that or did you like, or are you just going to be like, you know what, we'll just make out and all that? Absolutely not. The one benefit of being friends with you is that I use it.

I used it until the end of time. I knew that was exactly what you were going to say and I bet you you've like teed up some sort of double date or like, well, I don't even know what you'd call it, the two of us and then Brit on her own because Ben's overseas. Oh, right, yeah, got it. My boyfriend lives overseas. We will FaceTime Ben and he can come as well.

Okay, so how did the date progress? Like once you realised that he'd actually asked you no personal questions about yourself, was only interested about your work and us, which is just weird, where did it go? It didn't really go anywhere because he genuinely just wanted to know about the two of you. Oh, Mitch, I'm sorry.

It was the same time I was house-sitting Brit and he goes, oh, so is Brit's house close to here? I'm like, he, because I'm like, oh, maybe he wants me to go back to the house. He's probably smelling my undies or something. No, no. I hope you didn't take him there. No, I thought he wanted to, you know, take it to the next step, you know.

But no, he just wanted to scope your house out. So did you take this stranger that's obsessed with us to my house? Absolutely not. I would never do that to you. You did, do you? He did, you could tell. Look at your face. You absolutely did.

I saw it on the dog can. I am really excited to bring you guys today's guest. Her name is Kelly Finlayson and she's a friend of ours. She's a friend of Laura's and myself. We've interviewed her on our podcast before on Life Uncut Podcast. She's the wife of Port Adelaide AFL star Jeremy Finlayson. And now the reason Kelly is such an incredible person is she is advocating for early bowel cancer detection. And the reason she's doing that is that she was diagnosed with stage four terminal bowel cancer when she was just 25 years old.

It's unbelievable. And she had just given birth to her daughter, Sophia. So it came at a really young age and I can't imagine that there's never a good time, but having just given birth as a first-time mum, it's truly an incredible story and Kelly's doing amazing things. And we have her on the phone. Kelly, welcome to the show.

Hi, Kelly. Hi, Kelly. Hi. How is everyone? How are you? I know, how are you? Good, I'm good. I think for anybody when you hear Stage 4 Terminal,

like Stage 4 Terminal, I think for most people who don't understand what a cancer diagnosis is or how it can be managed or presented that sounds like an instantaneous death sentence and I know when we spoke on the podcast not so long ago I was like what does that even mean for you can you talk us through a little bit about what that has been like when you received that diagnosis but what life has been like for the for the last little bit yeah so when you get a stage four diagnosis generally ask well what's stage five and then when you find out there isn't a stage five and that stage five is technically death, it's a little bit scary.

But I think the last 18 months have been probably different to what you would expect from someone that's living with such a sinister disease. I've been choosing to stay positive. I've been choosing to advocate rather than wallow in all of my sorrows, basically. You're amazing. yeah I'm just living every day as if it is borrowed time which technically it is and making

the most of it well Kelly you found out about this very shortly after having your baby and in that there's been so many symptoms that would also you could put down to being just like part of postpartum how was it that you actually discovered and was like no something needs to be checked what was happening for you at that point so my partner actually noticed it probably better than I did I did have the blood in the stool but I thought that was just I was getting my period back after three months like it's quite common to get your period back after having a your baby um and then I realized that it was actually in my stool which kind of sucks but then my partner joked about me the frequency of me needing to go to the toilet and needing a port-a-loo to be driven around with

us at all times and that's when I was like okay it's not funny anymore and he actually booked me in to see a doctor and I was luckily enough that I got a female doctor that took me really seriously within like two seconds of hearing my story well it is the leading cancer killer in 25 to 34 year olds and that is because of those exact reasons the the symptoms are hidden um and you had it for three to four years before you were diagnosed what is your journey like now because i know that you got some really great results for a while and then you got some unfortunate results that had spread can you tell us about that yeah so i was considered no evidence of disease for a while maybe six months post diagnosis but then six months later I got the news that I had returned

in my lung which sucks but at the at the minute I've just done the whole chemo and radio journey again I lost my hair unfortunately this time which sucks but your wig right now is incredible the technological wig right now is amazing um but I have really stable bloods at the moment I actually have a scan on Friday to see if those bloods are correct and that things are going well which you wouldn't hear from it you wouldn't think you would hear from a terminal diagnosis but I'm I guess one of the lucky ones and not a statistic on the other end is that a thing sorry it's I guess it's confusing for a lot of people because you hear you hear terminal diagnosis but you seem to in some capacity I don't want to say be getting better but your results are pretty

stable and they don't seem to be deteriorating is that normal or are you a real anomaly I don't think it's normal like obviously I haven't had many conversations with people with stage four cancer because generally it is in older people that you hear the stage four diagnosis but um as soon as it spread from the original spot which was in my bowel now my lung it's considered stage four which is often really hard to get under control and i've just been lucky that it's now very stable wow kelly for anyone who's you know has that thing that's been niggling at them or they think oh maybe that's not right like what is your what is your advice now as someone who put off being able to go and seek out medical help what would you say

to those people? I guess I live by the trust your gut saying probably more than I should. But it's so true. If you think something's up, all you need to do is go and see a doctor. They're quite literally paid to listen to you. Wow. You're also an ambassador for the Jodie Lee Foundation, which is, do you want to quickly tell us a little bit about Jodie Lee and the team there? Yeah. So Jodie Lee herself was a young woman that was diagnosed with bowel cancer who unfortunately passed so her husband and best friend have started up a foundation and all of our i guess goals align and we just work really well as a team and i love being the face of it at the moment it's really good kelly you're doing incredible things we're really rooting for you and i'm really

looking forward to seeing you and catching up so thanks for giving us your time today thanks for having me guys thanks kelly We'll be right back.