Life Uncut - Charlize Theron "F*cked" A 26 Year Old And The Internet Isn't Happy!

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

Hey Lifers, If you happen to hear any mic bumps or mouth sounds today, please message Britt Hockley directly. Laura and Keeshia are taking a stand against Britt’s anti-podcast-establishment trial.Ben has gone home and Britt’s now in the first chapter of their long distance marriage. We speak about how ‘different’ our relationships feel pre and post marriage.Both Delilah and Matt had birthdays over the weekend except Laura almost forgot. After having a crack at Matt last week for not realising how far along Laura’s pregnancy was, Laura had some making up to do!Is it a ‘flex’ to sleep with a younger person? Charlize Theron was on the Call Her Daddy podcast last week promoting her new movie ‘the old guard 2’. Charlize is 49, a mother of two, an Oscar-winner, and basically Hollywood royalty. When Alex Cooper asked her if she had any sex tips, she responded saying that she’d recently slept with a 26 year old and it was great!Naturally, the internet had thoughts. Some people were cheering her on for owning her sexuality, others were very uncomfortable. We ask if it’s a double standard because “if men did this, we’d be up in arms” and whether we are okay with that double standard or not. You can watch us on Youtube Find us on Instagram Join us on tiktok Or join the Facebook Discussion Group Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! XxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode was recorded on Camaragal land. Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. I'm Brittany. And we have had a bit of a disagreement this morning. Have we? Yep. How so? It can't be that big. I don't even know what it is. Oh, I know.

Okay, Brittany has decided to absolutely raw dog this episode. Do you know why? Because we prepped and we watched some Call Her Daddy videos. And Britt is now under the impression that podcasters don't wear headphones. That is not it. I have been trying to go rogue and not wear headphones for a while. And I never used to wear headphones. I got bullied into it by Laura.

No, that was by Keisha. Don't blame me. I will take credit. I bullied you into it. Yeah, five years ago. And I'm just trying something new. No one else wears headphones. And I don't like to wear headphones.

They hurt my ear holes. I just want to be free. But I'm just giving it a whirl. And if I don't like it, I will resort back. But for now, we're raw dogging. The reason why you've been bullied into it is because, and for you guys, this is something that you don't care about because you don't have to listen to them because they all get edited out.

Mic bumps. Keish, you are the most amazing producer, editor, and like your attention to detail is there, my girl. I don't know if it's that. I have a real hate mouth clicks, like cheek, that sound. Oh, don't do it. And also microphone bumps. And I hear them all the time in other podcasts.

and every time I hear them, I get angry at the editor. And the thing is, is the reason why people mic bump is because they can't hear that they have mic bumped because they're not wearing headphones. So even though we all look like we're going out of space with our massive headphones on, there is a purpose, there's a reason. So if you hear a mic bump in this episode, please message Britt directly.

Don't message Life Uncut. Guys, we mic bump and mouth sound with headphones for five years. You guys need to take a little relaxation. We're going to try something new. Should I not cut them out of this episode and just see how it goes? Cut that out. I'm a professional. We all forget we're professionals.

Is that what they're calling us these days? That's a first? No, I actually want to feel what it feels to be free as a podcaster. So I'm just going to try it. And I quite like it. I'm in it in. I'm feeling it. I've got my nipples out and no headphones.

I love that for you. You live your life, girlfriend. Although it's been a big week. Maybe this is the start. I'm anti-establishment. Britt, if you come. Sorry. I'm putting that there now.

If you come to work next week with a different hairstyle, we actually know what's happening. We know that this is the start of the mental breakdown. Ben's left. Ness, bring me my fringe. I need my clip-in fringe. No, it is. Can we just finish that sentence?

Ben didn't leave me. No, no, no. But he did leave to go back to his other country. I'm not having a mental breakdown because Ben has left me. You're single already. Yeah, imagine that would be like one of the shortest marriages. Nah, Kim Kardashian trumps you, don't worry. Yeah, in devastating, absolutely devastating news in the Hockley-Segarest-Delilah household,

all good things must come to an end. And Ben has left me. He did go back on Friday night slash Saturday morning at about 3am in the morning. We had to get up and say our goodbyes, which, mind you, was not romantic and not sexy at 3 in the morning. But yeah, he's gone back to Italy. He's moving and re-signing in Italy for another year or so. and it was absolutely crushing like I was out the front at three in the morning freezing cold

bawling my eyes out on the street as I waved him away because no I didn't drive him to the airport at 3am I waved him down the street I was like you'll be missed your uber's here get out it's cold I'm tired I'm going back that surprises me because there's nothing quite as poetic as an airport goodbye I think you're one of two people that's the thing and I think everyone can be divided into these camps there are the people who always go and pick up loved ones from the airport and then there's brit that is not true that is absolutely not true and i'm gonna defend myself strap in you're like i've picked ben up at least a handful of times i have picked ben up multiple times when he flies in during business hours no so because ben's so big ben flew back business

class he doesn't physically fit into an economy like he will fly economy when they're short flights because you know he'll cram himself in it's fine for a 27 hour flight he can't fit in economy so he bought himself a business class to fly back business class they pick you up like it's part of why it's so expensive do they yes only with some airlines then well he flies emirates because that's the route i don't know other airlines but i know for him when you book a business class they chauffeur you because it's part of the so why would i at 3 a.m drive ben to the airport when he can have a beautiful car pick him up and I can be back in my warm bed crying myself to sleep bon voyage then off you go exactly thank you although I would say and I mean I think anyone

who's ever done long distance for a period of time there is nothing sadder than that getting on the plane and sitting on the plane by yourself and just having like a sad cry to yourself knowing like it's just a really sad moment and I'm sorry I don't mean to rub it in Brit but I mean for anyone else who's ever done long distance like that is like such a specific feeling I think maybe more so in the dating stages and I don't I don't want to like detract anything from what you're experiencing but more so in the dating stages when you're just absolutely not sure if you're going to see them again you don't know if something's going to change you're married now you know you're going to see your husband again so that feels a little bit more solid but in saying

that do you feel any different this time around with Ben leaving and also any different this time around now being married it's so interesting I think a lot of people don't expect to feel different when they get married and I've heard a lot of people say that it didn't change for them like you know I mean it was a big moment but you hear people say like it's just the same life keeps moving on and for me it didn't like it is dramatically different and I don't I can't put my finger on what it is but I just feel and it was unexpected from the day we got married something shifted with us and I feel like I get emotional thinking about it but it's like something shifted and I can't put my finger on it but I just felt a certainty and a comfort and a

warmth and a security that even though I had all those things before at the end of the day it's a day and it's a piece of paper it just felt different and it felt like we had closed a page and a chapter on one part of my life and maybe it's because I'm a little bit older you know I'll be 38 in a month or in oh far out next month and maybe it's because I've gone through a lot of waves and highs and lows I feel like oh I've hit that destination that I always wondered if I'd ever get to and yeah I just feel like it's this new a new journey together a new chapter together sounds so dramatic and I wonder if every like other people listening have know this feeling I'm trying to explain I think that a lot of people would know what you're talking about and also you

know I mean I make jokes about the whole like it is more uncertain when someone you're dating you're doing long distance with gets back on a plane because you really don't know when you're going see them again yeah I do assume that there would be a greater level of certainty when you're married and you know that you're doing long distance also you know there's an expiration date on that long distance you know you're working towards the same goal but you also know that you've both made like the ultimate commitment that you're going to get through that phase of life that is the long distance phase I always sort of said prior to getting married to Matt because I was not ever the person I've said before never the white dress never really dreamed about a wedding didn't really

do much of the organization of our wedding. Like Matt is and used to be a project manager back in the day. So he like managed most of our wedding. And I just always said, I don't think that marriages or weddings are worth the paper that they're written on. And I said that because I came from a family where my mom has been married three times. My dad has been, well, almost married three times, but yeah, like, you know, in two weddings, one engagement. And so when Matt asked me to marry him, as much as I was super excited, I had that thought still in my brain. And it wasn't until actually after getting married that my feeling shifted. There was a sense of security I didn't expect. I thought it would be exactly the same. It has been deeply different being

married to not being married. And I don't know what that is. I don't know how to put a label on it, but it was a feeling. I just became 10 times more obsessed with him. I don't know. You are mine now. He says the same thing. It's like the next day and it's almost like a new responsibility wakes up inside you and I don't even know how to explain that but you're like oh we are proper in this together now and like it's the same feelings you always had but just intensified like you're always responsible for the other person you always want to help them but there's something else that just grew and I imagine it's the same feeling as when you have a baby it's like a feeling you can't explain but you're like I am obsessed with this thing and I live for you and I'll do anything for

you it was an immediate feeling like a flood of feelings like that and I thought the longer we were together long distance the easier it would be and that has just flipped on its head like this was the worst worst hardest goodbye maybe because we're in this chapter and these feelings are here but the goodbye was usually like there are a couple of tears and they roll down the face and you know you know they're coming and then you say your goodbyes but we were both crying and I went back I felt sick and I just thought why am I like I'm not going to see him for three months again and then I'll see him for a week and then it's three months again and that is so crazy and now that I've got this flood of of like feelings of my husband and I should be spending my life with

this person that goodbye was 10 times worse but it was 3am so I only cried for about 10 minutes and I fell asleep I was like gotta get that REM yeah I set my whoop and I was like yeah it's me done so yeah it's it's been cool it's been cool but it's been really your whoop is like you've had an arousal at 3am but don't worry you still hear your back sleep something is happening at 3am but we're not sure what it was I was just like me hyperventilating the other thing is now it's not just me, we are a family and Ben did leave his child. Delilah was left

Delilah's going to have daddy issues. Another father bigger that's walked out on her That's why she's got She's obsessed with Ben That's why she's obsessed with men because they keep leaving, I reckon She can't even watch Wimbledon She's really traumatised by it

Daddy, is that you? She looked up and then she ran out of the room So it was Delilah's birthday on the day that Ben left, which makes it worse. On her birthday, he left her. But she turned four and we did have a birthday party for her with her dog walker. She's got two dog walkers.

They're married. Their dog walker is Beck and Harry and Keisha and myself. We went and had a birthday party for her. But I think you tell me, Keisha. I'm pretty sure Ben messaged Keisha and said, could you make sure Brittany's okay and get her out of the house? Actually, it was the opposite way around. I messaged Ben to say that I'd had such a nice time getting

to know him more because this is the longest period of time that we've kind of spent around him as well. You know, we've obviously spent time from here to there, but I felt as though I got to know Ben a lot more this time around and also just on a more relaxed, casual level. Totally. Because there was that quality time together. And so I messaged him and I was like, oh,

I've just had such a good time with you being here. Like I know that you guys are both going to be, you know, pretty flat and down. And I said, don't worry, I'll make sure that Britt's busy. And so I organised just for us to have a coffee with Beck and Harry in the morning and I was like, it's for Delilah's birthday. It was a rescue mission. Yeah, I mean, I guess that's something that Laura

and I often talk about after Ben does leave. We're both like, oh, you know. What? Are you in a group text without me? We sometimes text each other and you don't see them, but it's always about your welfare. I'm big with not. And the fear that you're going to come out with blonde hair and a fringe.

And it's like, fucking Brittany didn't wear headphones today. The bitch. We'll let it slide because Ben left. I'll post them in the group chat. Yeah, we just kind of tend to talk and be like, oh, you know, we think Britt's probably going to be a bit down and so just try to keep you occupied, okay? And I hung around for the whole afternoon.

Well, yes, you did. I was like, Kish, I need to go to the gym. You need to leave now. I'm okay. Kish is like, I'll sleep the night. She brought her sleeping bag. She's like, I'm going to stay the night. I was like, you can go home.

I am in another conundrum at the moment. This has got to be the most brilliant marketing. Across the road from me, where I live in Bondi, next to my gym, is this new it's a bakery that sells scrolls scrolls and matcha and i've seen the sign i saw it as they were building it tiny little store and then i saw this lineup down the street i'm talking hundreds of people goes around the corner and i thought what are they lining up for there must be some cool pop-up store like clothing store and i followed the line and it's this tiny bakery and i thought what the hell now this has been two weekends in a row lined up out the door

And it's made me want it so bad. I know. I know. I drove past it recently and I had no idea what it was. I almost messaged you to be like, dude, what's going on across the road? Yeah. Then I realized it's the cinnamon scroll place. And I was like, I don't even like cinnamon scrolls, but I want one because everyone else

is wanting them. So this is the conundrum. The line, I'm like, gross. I would never line up for a bakery treat that long because I'm not talking guys. It's not 10 people. I'm not exaggerating. It's like minimum 60 people in the line. At a time.

Minimum. Consistently. but then every time I walk past it all day I was like I'm gonna have to do it because I have to know what is so good about this scroll and I also did a poll on my Instagram there are over 2,000 people that responded that said they lined up for it and it was worth it 2,000 and I'm like this must be what are they putting cocaine in the scroll like probably from Bondi so that's the dusting on top so the other day because it's so near me so every time I leave I can see it the other day few people the tiniest thing and I was like I am on I am on right across the road by the

time I got there there was one person in front of me and she got the scroll and then you cannot script this I said please please tell me there's a scroll left and they're like that was the last one they gave the last scroll away to the girl that's in front of me and I was like are you fucking kidding me so I was like cool I'm gonna go midweek this is the most brilliant marketing they only open on a weekend there's a scarcity mindset and now there's a line I could be allergic to a cinnamon scroll and I'm going to go line up to have it. Like that is how good this marketing is. So I don't know if anyone else has any ideas.

Maybe I could slip a 50 to the person at the front of the line. I think you've just got to get there at the start of the day. No, they're lined up before it opens, Laura. You've never seen anything like it. It's what I did when it was like COVID times and I needed to get my passport renewed. You pay a – Someone to stand there.

Yeah, what's it called? Like a placeholder. What's the app called that we all use? Oh, work – first person can think of it wins. It's us! You pay an air tasker You pay an air tasker to line up You pay him per hour

I can't pay an air tasker to line up for a scroll You can pay me Can I? I got a price How much would you do it for, Keish? Let's say a dollar a minute 60 an hour No, because I think it could be an hour So I'm not paying $60 for a scroll

That's a lot for a scroll, isn't it? I think I would charge hourly rather than a flat fee Because you just don't know what you're going to get in for $20, Keish, and it's yours Three seconds to decide Damn it well what have you been doing well it was Matt's birthday on the weekend and I mean speaking of birthdays I know we covered Delilah's off but it was also Matt's to be fair though so earlier in

the week we've been very busy there's lots going on it's now school holidays kids are on kind of school holidays or in vacation care and we're heading down to Ulladulla this week last week it was after and we spoke about on radio but it was after I berated Matt on radio for him not knowing how many weeks pregnant I was like I remember well he had absolutely no clue I've just hit third trimester and he thought we still had like 20 weeks left of this pregnancy he thought we were midway and so it was a real rude shock for him when he realized actually there's 12 weeks left do you think that's more based around denial no no oblivion not denial like he's not he's not in denial he's quite accepting and happy about the fact that there's a third baby coming it and

it's also not happening to him so he's been busy so one week rolls into another and somehow he managed to miscount about eight weeks of this pregnancy we had a big joke about it on radio and then that afternoon when I was at home he was like oh honey maybe we can go out for dinner this weekend on Sunday and I was like oh why he was so graceful and kind about it he was just like I literally said we're so busy why don't we just do it when we're on holidays and then it wasn't until several hours later when he was like oh I have a feeling that maybe you've forgotten and that's okay but it is my birthday on sunday so it might be nice to go out for dinner so then i felt like all week i was trying to make it up to him so we went out for a really nice dinner on sunday

every night i gave him so many blow jobs we all know that's not true i had sex with him once and so much effort guys six minutes i had i laid on my word for him before i went to bed laid on my back you did go over the top oh it's really hard at this point my belly's so big it just gets in the way it's too much information i then had to like organize a like a nice present and stuff that I thought he would really like and he's really into spearfishing as we've established. So I got him like more spearfishing gear. But does he actually go?

Yeah, yeah. Or does he just collect the gear? Well, he only goes when we're down the south coast but he's turning into a spearfisherman. So that's his fun like, you know, midlife crisis, midlife thing. He did the ice baths. He did the mouth tape. He biked.

He's done the, yeah, the red, what are they called, infrared saunas. He's gone through the cycling and now he's in the spearfishing era and I'm sure something else will come in six months' time. I can't wait. I wish I could trump it up to baby brain, but it's just me. Do you know what it is, though? People, it's not like you forgot it was there.

Sometimes you just forget the day. So you know it's coming up, but you forget that it's already Friday, which is two days away. 100%. I thought it was the following weekend, which would make absolutely no sense, but I just, for some reason, I thought I had another week up my sleeve. That was it. It's not my fault.

It's his fault. It's absolutely not your fault, and no matter what you did, I will always be on your side. You guys might have seen, and now forgive me, because for my entire life I have thought that her name was Charlize Theron. Charlize Theron. Turns out after listening to the Call Her Daddy interview,

it is Charlize Theron. Blow me away. Let's discuss that first. Keisha, you just hit the microphone. Oh, oh, oh. Let's record that one and make that a social grab. Okay. Turns out that after listening to the Call Her Daddy podcast,

it's Charlize Theron. I think this happens a lot in Hollywood, not with her, I think with loads of people, whereas we just make up a name, they can't be bothered to argue it and then it sticks. Like we just call them the wrong name their whole life. It does sound fancier, doesn't it? This happens with me. When people say petite, I don't care.

I don't correct them. Because petite's super cute. Keisha petite. Do you think Theron's cooler than Theron? No, I love, I love Charlize Theron. If I was her, that's what I'd go with. Guys, we're getting bogged down because the thing that we're actually unpacking is not the fact that we've all been getting her name wrong.

It is the fact that on Call Her Daddy recently, so this episode's gone quite viral, but the conversation surrounding it is more the fact that Charlize came out as a 49 year old woman and said that she has had a fantastic one night stand with a 26 year old man it has caused quite the backlash across social media have a listen to this do you have any sex tip for the girls sex tip like what does that mean like what does that mean like how to have good sex how to what have an organ anything anything that like you think of girls could just like you're hot you're having good sex okay you're like i almost choked um i am the last person to ask i'm like sounding very cocky here but i think it's because i have

found this freedom in my 40s where i'm like oh my god so i just want to say this in perspective i've probably had three one-night stands in my entire life okay but i did just recently fuck a 26 year old and it was really fucking amazing fuck yes and I've never done that and I was like oh this is great there's been such a backlash as I've said and overarchingly the argument seems to be why is it okay for a woman who is 49 and has two children to brag about having sex with a younger 26 year old man but if a 49 year old man bragged about having sex with a 26 year old woman, we would all quote unquote be up in arms about it. I wanted to read you a couple of, and I did not have to dig deep for these comments at all. There are comments all over

the YouTube video. The Instagram post of this has actually been archived. It's only now existing on TikTok, but there are so many negative comments. The top ones from the tiniest scroll that I did, I'll read a couple of them out. A disgusting woman. If a man that was bragging like that about young girls it would be a crime but because this is a woman it is feminism crazy next comment absolutely disgusting she's old enough to be that kid's mother if this was a 49 year old guy talking about having a one-night stand with a 26 year old people would be in arms over it but since it's a woman they're like yeah go queen this is sad and lame i have lost all respect for charlize next one lastly but when dicaprio does this he is considered a predator do we have more allowances

for women who date down or who have one-night stands with 26-year-olds than what we do with men? Is there an imbalance here? Is there a bias? I think your first statement that you read out then, the first comment, both things can be true and I think both things are true. Would we be up in arms if a man said this?

Yes. Like it would come across as gross and predatory and unnecessary. Are we like yes queen because she has said it? Yes. I think both of those statements are true and they're true for different reasons. they're true because men do do it and have done it consistently forever yeah totally it is a normal thing and the fact that there is this much discourse around charlie's making this statement

of sleeping with a 26 year old having a one-night stand the fact that we are having so many conversations about it is because we don't hear it that often it still comes across as quite shocking that a successful leading lady in Hollywood, a mother, and I say a mother because we're going to talk about that, but a lot of it is saying, how could you talk out loud about this when you're a mom, when you have two kids that are listening? We're so up in arms that a mother could enjoy sex and openly talk about it and do it with somebody that is younger than her. One of the most disgusting responses I have heard is Megyn Kelly. If you don't know Megyn Kelly, she's, I mean, lucky you. She is an attorney. She's a journalist. She has the Megyn Kelly show.

She's a political commentator. She's a Trump supporter. She's quite conservative and right wing. She has been commenting quite extensively on the Megyn Kelly show that she has on YouTube about Charlize Theron's comments about having sex with a 26 year old. But what I think is interesting to note before we get into it is Charlize played Megyn Kelly in Bombshell, which was the movie about the controversy around Fox News because she worked for Fox News for a long time. So there is a bit of a relationship already between Megan and Charlize Theron and apparently they haven't had quite a smooth relationship. So I think that that's really interesting to note going into this when we play some of the things that Megan has said.

Have a listen to this. This is a little grab from the Megyn Kelly show. She's doing a sit-down chat with a guy called Stu Bergeri. This is Charlize Theron trying to sound like super cool girl. she's 49 years old. She's trying to sound like she's 26 years old and it's inappropriate. It feels weird. She's one of our biggest stars. That's true. Act like it, act like it, have some class. Like, honestly, who, like, it's a very strange thing to see one of our best known actresses sit down like that with the cross legs with this sex podcaster talking about their orgasms and who they effed. It's just really off-putting and feels really off. Just, it's a turnoff. My theory is it's an overcompensation. Your thoughts? You know, it's a bizarre, bizarre society that

elevates that sort of conversation, I would say. I guess that's supposed to make her like edgy, right? Like it's supposed to be, hey, look at me. I'll say it. I'll just say it. I like doing that. It just seems it seems pathetic. It seems like you're trying too hard. Imagine being a woman talking about your sexuality and talking about sex because this is in a broader context on this podcast about sexual empowerment, about how she doesn't need to or feel like she needs a man or a companionship and she's actually just enjoying sex for the first time fully in her life and to be told that you sound desperate for talking about this.

Oh, trying to be a cool girl. And also the fact that they're so openly, intentionally trying to shame her for owning her sex life. She's literally on a relationship-based podcast. Like, yes, it's a conversation podcast, Call Her Daddy. They talk to amazing people all over the world, but the core of it has always been sex and relationships and they always try to incorporate sex and relationships.

So I think the setting is really important. She hasn't gone onto a political podcast and said, vote for this person and I fuck 26-year-olds. Totally. But they're intentionally trying to take it out of context by not including any of the set-up of the questions and shame her for owning her sexuality. I feel like I actually have to admit I saw this

on every other news publication before I saw it on Call Her Daddy's Instagram and a part of me was like, that is a weird thing to say. Like, it's a weird thing to just bring up out of nowhere, which is how all the publications kind of implied that it was. And I was like, yeah, I mean, I don't know if I'd be doing that. And we talk pretty openly about everything here. There was an element of me that was like, it's just a bit strange.

And then I listened to the entire episode and I listened to her talk about her whole life, how she had an experience in Hollywood that was very similar to like a Me Too experience with a director. She's not outed the person. She was talking with Alex about how she hasn't felt like she could advocate for herself. It was part of a much broader conversation about confidence and about owning your sexuality. And this particular part was what came directly after the conversation saying, I fucked a 26-year-old. This goes back to, I think this is kind of like a thread throughout our conversation.

women who come across as confident women who come across as like outspoken ones that wouldn't speak up for themselves tend to also be in bed people who want to please males like and I have found this in my experiences with talking to other women about this isn't it strange like we should be the ones that are like fuck you like I'm gonna have an orgasm and yet I my whole life was so concerned about same the same same okay oh my god so my advice would be this don't fucking do that for two reasons you're gonna have better orgasms and guess what your your man's gonna like that i think the big thing and what has been the overwhelming reaction online is this conversation around a double standard well if a man was to say this we would be so up

arms but because a woman has said it a 49 year old mother of two has said it about a 26 year old and it's so weird how we refer to 26 year old as like she could be his mother she's firstly she's not his mother he's 26 he's a grown adult he's a man and he's a consenting man who has not been identified in any way shape or form the reality is is that yes absolutely if you want to look at it and paint it in a black and white way there is a double standard there but the double standard has existed long, long, long before. Men don't need to go on podcasts and say, I fucked a 26-year-old and had a great time. They're doing it anyway. It is the cliche and cultural standard that men date down, that women, when they hit the age of 49 or 50 or 60, that we have an expiration date on our

sexuality, on our value, on our importance, and that it is kind of expected that men will date a younger model. Sometimes a double standard needs to exist because it's kind of like a rebalancing. But even just the fact that it's expected for men to date down, it's normal. A man dates down or hooks up with somebody or situationship, whatever it is, it's not really reported on in terms of there being a problem. It's reported on that the relationship, and I'm talking about people in the public eye, it's reported on that there is a relationship, but women have a literal name for it. You're a cougar. We have a name for it that if you choose to date someone younger than you, we're going to slap this label on you that, I mean, it's derogatory. The whole reason that

we came up with the term of being a cougar is like, what does a cougar do? Like it goes and eats prey. Like that's what it is. Like that's the idea of it. If you really want to break it down, this is, we're still just so uncomfortable with women in general, owning their sexuality and talking about sex. We're still like, obviously this goes back to hundreds of years in the patriarchy. We're still so uncomfortable with it. But even as Megyn Kelly said, we're so uncomfortable with it when it's somebody in the public eye, she says, you're our biggest star, act like it? What does acting like a star mean? Every single star has sex. I think that that's okay. And yeah, Hollywood used to be an enigma. It used to be a mystery and you didn't have this

parasocial relationship. You didn't have access to them. The only way you had access to anyone in the public eye was if you went and saw a movie or they decided on their own to do a press tour or an interview. But we expect different things from our stars now. You have to be relatable to your audience to stay relevant in a way and that's just a part of where our culture is moving and this is what they're doing the context is right she's on a press tour she's in a on a sex and relationships based conversation podcast she's done nothing wrong I do think a bit of the shock value came from maybe the words she used to describe it I think because she said fuck twice in a sentence and I know it shouldn't matter but if we're breaking it down I think it would have

hit a little different if she said you know what I recently like hooked up with a 26 year old and it was really amazing. Yeah. Or had a one night stand. It's a bit surreal to say I fucked a 26 year old. I'm not saying it's wrong what she did, but I'm saying if you break it down, those two deliveries give you a different feeling. I actually think that there's like this weird thing that a lot of us struggle with in terms of age gap relationships. And often those conversations center around power, right? So, and one being predator, one being prey. And I don't want to make out that all age gap relationships where the gender dynamic is flipped to this situation, where like a man's older and a woman's younger that they are always predator and prey that's

just simply not true look do I find it a bit strange that she's hooking up with someone who's 26 rather than someone her age maybe a little bit like you know each their own you can make those decisions what consenting adults do behind closed doors is absolutely none of my business do I think that she would have had some weird power imbalance dynamic over that person and that's why that person has chosen to sleep with her? No. And that was off the back of the conversation that she had talking about how she had been in an experience with a Hollywood director who was much older than her, who pressured her and sexually harassed her and potentially sexually abused her. I don't know. She didn't go into detail. That to me shows that this woman understands

consent. It shows that she understands what it's like to be on the other side of that power dynamic. Of course, I'm not making out by any means that men cannot be victims. I look at this particular situation and i don't think that it's a predator prey dynamic it's because the reality is we're talking about reverse patriarchy here and reverse patriarchy does not exist there is not a world where men are the ones who are being victimized by women we don't live in that world it's not a problem that men face on a day-to-day whereas we do know and there is fucking research upon research to prove that in every society in every culture across the world it is something that women experience and so when everyone's getting up in arms in the comment section and

be like think of the men we don't need to think of the men you know at all like they're like imagine if a man did this and it's like you don't need to imagine because men do do it it already exists it is not just a cliche it is literally the expected norm so I don't I really grappled with this because I was like are all double standards a problem and in this situation I was like yes technically it's a double standard. Do I have a deep issue with it? No. Fucking go for gold queen and enjoy yourself. I do think it's remiss of us to say and act like there is no power imbalance there. We don't know who the 26 year old is. At the end of the day, she's one of Hollywood's leading actresses. She's worth over $200 million. There is a power imbalance if it's an everyday

person. That doesn't mean it's negative, but the power imbalance exists. And we have seen a power imbalance in age gap relationships in the past where the woman is older. We've talked about them on the podcast. We spoke about Patrick Dempsey when he was 19 years old, marrying the older producer, but those power imbalances absolutely do exist. But this 26 year old, maybe he was a no one. Maybe he was Paul Mezcal. Maybe he was someone super famous. And even though there's an age gap, it might not necessarily be about a use of power. We don't know. And it's not for us to comment. Think about why it makes you uncomfortable. I think that that is a really big thing. Like I wonder why Megyn Kelly's so upset by this. I think Megyn Kelly just gets upset about

anything progressive at all but I do have one slightly more complex question do you think that we would be as like yes queen about this if Charlize Theron was not as hot I think we don't like people who are not as and I should say typically like stereotypically attractive talking about sex in general I think we have a bias towards when hot people talk about sex we are way more comfortable with it because it's way more palatable from an aesthetic perspective it's almost like fantasy yeah and i hate to say this because i don't agree with it and i do think it's deeply problematic like every single person regardless of what we look like are sexual beings and have sexual desires and should have the ability to speak about it in the same way but i think there

is a pretty privilege that is involved in this absolutely in the same way that there's a pretty privilege that's involved in men who date down i think that for a long time using leonardo again as an example for a long time that there was some allowances there and people were a bit like well I mean it's Leonardo or it's Brad Pitt or it's bloody I don't know George Clooney for example there's a huge age gap between him and Amal but the thing is is like when it is someone who is not attractive not stereotypically attractive I should say and a huge age gap I think it's harder for us to understand the why I agree 100% there's a pretty privilege me personally it wouldn't have mattered. It wouldn't have mattered who was on the other side, what woman it was,

anyone that we've interviewed in the past. It wouldn't have changed it for me. I wonder if it would have changed it for the people like Megyn Kelly. I think it's more about her position. I think that that's what's bothering a lot of people too, is that she is so wealthy. She is so famous and she is so beautiful. She's been in our leading movies for the last 20 to 30 years. I think that that has a really big thing to do with it as well. We like to put people on a pedestal. We like to pretend that they're perfect and they don't make mistakes and at the end of the day they're all we're all human everybody likes sex it's innate it's part of human nature we just still are uncomfortable with women talking about it and we will go to the end of the earth to shame them

all right my loves it is time for accidentally unfiltered and this is one i feel particularly fond of because it could have been me believe me right now at this point in pregnancy probably will be me in a couple of weeks time i was heavily pregnant and needed to stop at the supermarkets on my way home from work. At this point in pregnancy, you pretty much just always need to pee. But there was no toilet there and I wasn't far from home. So I figured it's going to be fine. It was not fine. I did my quick shop and was walking down the aisle towards the checkout when I felt a sneeze come on. I froze. I tried to hold the sneeze in, but it came out as this weird loud noise, which drew the attention of a little old lady in the same aisle right near me.

Unfortunately, it was not just a sneeze, but I entirely lost control of my bladder and I peed all over the supermarket floor. The little old lady yelled at the top of her lungs, oh my goodness, your water is broken. She grabbed my arm to help me out of the puddle and she escorted me to the checkout where she yelled at a worker to go clean up the mess. I had no choice but to play along and pretend that I was in labor and then find a new local supermarket as I can literally never go there again because I was still pregnant this is the best I'm sorry the best possible outcome I would have done I would have done the same thing I would have lent so hard into active labor there is no way I'm like no sorry I just wet myself breathe

so good I also do you know what I love that that little old lady sprung into action for you like that's a real that's a real mom she drew more attention to it she's been there before and she's like i'm here to help she pulled a megaphone off the thing and she's like clean up in aisle seven we're in active labor it's so good that is so funny i love it you can go back for sure you just give it a couple weeks wait till you birth the child yeah you can go back once you have a baby but if you go back and you have to lie about its birthday for the rest of your life to the supermarket like if you some people look like they're you know at the end of third trimester when they're like, you know, midway through.

If you've still got like six weeks or eight weeks to go, you can't go back in the meantime. You've got to go back when that baby's been birthed. No, you can go back. And then you send like a nice card to the supermarket and be like, oh, my God, remember when my water's broke here? Huh, crazy. Remember when I pissed myself in aisle five?

And you can call it Tesco. Well, it is time for Second Suite. But before we do that, we also want to let you know, if you made it this far into the episode, we're supposed to do this at the start, but we forgot. We got too caught up with Brit without her headphones on. we are having a week holiday so next week can't wait yes you can't wait i love you guys but can't wait you just had a holiday sorry that was not a holiday it was a stressful time in my life and

you had three weeks off that was non-six honeymoons that was three three that was not a holiday that does not count i need another one okay well you're in luck we are taking a week off next week to coincide with school holidays. So unfortunately you won't have us in your ears, but it's only a very brief week that we have off. We do have the episodes coming out on Friday. We've got an amazing interview coming out with a guy named Rawson Kirkhope, which we absolutely would love for you all to listen to. And then we will still have our pickup episode on the weekend. And then we're on holidays. Do not disturb for a full week. And then we'll be back to normal programming. What's your suck?

My suck for the week. My suck for the week is, and I hate to tell you all because I know we worked together yesterday i got home from work yesterday and marley was scratching her head and i was like something's going on here girlfriend and then i did a bit of investigating and i did some more investigating then i investigated my husband then i investigated myself and it turns out that the johnsons had knits once again so i don't know who was ground zero we all had it and when last night was a nice little knit treatment night for the whole family real bonding moments it's just so humbling when you're like you just think you're killing it at life and then you're like fuck we've all got knits how close were we can knits jump i don't know if our hair's healthy

enough no they like dirty hair don't know they like clean hair they like clean knits prefer clean hair and also you guys okay knit connoisseur literally if you need to know anything about knits i have two young children i know everything hypothetically they can't jump like two meters that we are now no and also i always wear my hair in a slicked back bun slicked back bun no one is getting this from me guys they can still get into a bun you know my head just feels itchy now just because it's talking about it i know i don't have them i don't even think my hair's healthy enough for them to choose my head to nest in but whenever someone says it i get itchy oh totally if anyone says any type of insects you're like oh do you not have trauma for when you're a kid and your

mom would like rake that sharp comb through your hair yes yeah it's just it doesn't get any better when you're older i have trauma from like i remember this one time was like my first time i I was going to a proper hairdresser to get like a real cut and I was getting like this little blonde highlight in the front. Mum said I could get it because my older brother's got it and I'll never forget I told everyone at school that I was like getting my hair done properly because it was a flex and I got into the hairdresser's seat and she went to touch my hair

and I saw her recoil in the mirror. You must have had them bad. If she found them that quickly. Yeah, they just like jumped out having a party. Yeah, that's like an infestation. I'm talking like when our kids have had them. All right. Not just an infestation.

Nits and nits. It doesn't matter if you've got one or a hundred. I feel like we catch on to it really early. So now you're shaming my mum. Yeah, sorry. Sorry. Nikki had four kids and she had gone through a hard time. I'm lucky I didn't have a shaved head, to be honest.

To be fair, though, like, I mean, I've never been able to find live ones. I've only ever found, like, little eggs, tiny little random sporadic ones. But you've got to go hunting for it. But the problem is, is if you know that one kid's got a couple of little eggs in their hair, you're all gone down like dominoes. Can dogs get nits? No, they get fleas. Yeah, but can a nit survive on a dog's hair?

Just lucky humans, apparently. So anyway. We've gone down way too far. You might have to comb Buster. No, that's not a real thing. They can. According to Google AI. To be fair, we never know whether we can trust the robots.

So you're going to have to go and treat Busty. Oh, wait, hang on. Whoa, hang on, hang on. Yes, dogs can get lice and the eggs they lay are called nits, but while dogs can get lice, they cannot get human head lice. Yeah, it's different. So it says dog lice. I'm so glad we're not spreading misinformation.

I'm not ready to be like called out for that again. I love that guy. Actually, if we got cancelled for misinformation about dog nits, I wouldn't put it past him. That would be perfect. Do you know what? That would be a real low light because of all the things that we've said on this fucking podcast, if that's what gets us cancelled,

I think that there's a real problem in the world. Jelilah gets taken off me because I've shaved her from lies. Okay. Look, my highlight for the week is that, yes, it was Matt's birthday on the weekend and, you know, as much as I might have forgotten earlier in the week, we had a really nice day. We went out for a date night on a Sunday night under much duress.

we have like our one staple restaurant that we go to this is not sponsored we wrote our wedding vows there we've been there for every significant birthday dinner or christmas dinner you made us go there for my engagement brit hated it it was so bad that night i know it was a miss night it was a miss but it was not yeah i was confused by your obsession i love it do you know why i think because it's small and intimate and like for me it just feels like a special date place because we have such good memories at it really stressful because they had like a rotating menu but not, like, nightly. It was, like, last minute to order before we changed it

and then they changed the menu and then 10 minutes later it was, like, I felt like I was in Willy Wonka. No, that's not true. They change the menu once a week. Anyway, I loved it. We had a really nice night. And it was just, like, Matt and I don't get as much time as what we used to, shock, horror, no surprise,

to have one-on-one time together and that's because – Do you just talk about the kids? No. No, we talk about everything. But the thing is, is, like, not only are we with the kids all the time, we're also with Matt's mum all the time because, like, At the end of the day when we unwind and everyone's sitting on the couch, like we're all together and I absolutely love it.

But, you know, sometimes Matt and I don't spend – I never feel like I'm missing out on anything, but then every so often I realise like we haven't spent quality time just talking to each other or hanging out. Yeah, it's definitely a different convo if your mum's there. To be fair, they talk about everything in front of each other. But, yeah, I mean like it was a really nice night. I really loved it and we had a great time.

Now it's school holidays. I'm going down to Ulladulla and I'm thrilled about that as well. Cute. What was your suck? Well, Ben left. Ben left. My husband left. Yeah.

My husband left. My house is so cold. There's two in one. Like my house, I don't know if we've spoken about this year. We have. Every year people message me and they're like, why are you wearing a snowsuit and a beanie inside while you're cooking? And if you've been in my house slash Laura's old house,

it is unlike anything I've experienced. You need, I've been saying, you've been living in that house for four years now, three years. You just need to get a gas heater. You pay my gas. I can't add it to the gas bill. You just reminded me. Actually, fuck yeah, I am.

I need to pay it. I'm going to add it. I'm going to get multiple gas heaters through the house. No. Do you know what is the funniest relationship with us? Because neither of us can be bothered to change the gas bill. Laura just pays it and then invoices me. She pays my gas bill, invoices me, and then I pay her for my gas bill.

It's so – it just shows who we are at our core. Yeah. But disorganized. Yeah. My suck is definitely Ben leaving and being freezing. My sweet would be I want to have two. one is that I am the new face of Lorna Jane campaign which is really yeah which is really exciting because it's like a brand I love and aware for so long and I got to do a really cool

campaign with them so that's really cool so that's just it's not the face forever it's just this little campaign for winter and I am going back to the Gold Coast to see my sister and little baby Maya and that's where I'm not going overseas for this holiday Ben and I we only get those minimal holidays, but there's no point for this one. It's a week and I just, it's too far to go for a couple of days. So unfortunately I've had to make other arrangements. So I'm going to go and see my sister again. So that's my sweet, even though it hasn't happened yet. Anyway. Well, it's something to look forward to. And guys, we'll update you about everything holiday wise and life wise when we come back. And if you haven't joined the Life Uncut discussion group,

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