Life Uncut - Everything You've Ever Wanted to Ask The World's Biggest Pornstar! Uncut with Angela White 💦💦💦

Episode Date: February 20, 2024

Lifers, today's episode was wildly entertaining and so much fun!We got to sit down with one of the world's most successful porn stars, Angela White! And she's home grown!We spoke about Angela's first experiences in the porn industry and how it impacted her education in gender studies. We chat: If orgasms are real in porn Boundaries in sex work The 'rules' in porn How to give blow jobs, dirty talk and start back door experiences Adult entertainment terminology - dp, tp and air tight (don't worry we didn't know what they were either)  OnlyFans and whether the money is as lucrative as we think Angela's most viral moment You can find more of Angela on her Instagram where she has nearly 10 million followers! If you have an question please send it on it to life uncut podcast on Instagram hereJoin us on tiktok Or join the facebook group here Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! xxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands were never ceded. We pay our respects to their elders past and present. Always was, always will be Aboriginal land. This episode was recorded on Darug Walamutta land. Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. I'm Brittany. And boy, do we have a killer episode for you today. It is hot. It is saucy and it is sexy. It's a porn episode. We're talking to the queen of porn, Angela White. She's Aussie. She's homegrown. She's got 10 million followers on Instagram. She's won a

multitude of porn awards. She's in the top 0.01% on OnlyFans. I genuinely really loved this chat. So Angela White is literally one of the biggest porn stars in the entire world. Currently, she is inducted into the AVN Hall of Fame. She has won, wait for it, 69 AVN Awards thus far. That's Adult Video Network Awards. And also, she was just an incredible delight to speak to. One of the things that I wanted to touch on, before we let you know what's in the episode, what's in the conversation, because we really did ask Angela every question that I have

ever had that I wanted to ask an adult porn star, we got to ask them. Yeah. Like, do you actually cum? Angela's experience of the porn industry is a very, very positive one. It is sexually liberating and she loves what she does for a job. And I know over the years we have spoken about the dark side of the porn industry. We've spoken about how women have been degraded, how women have been used within the porn industry. And that is not Angela's experience. And I think one of the things I took from this where I so deeply respected her and the way that she approaches her business is her ability to set boundaries and the fact that she is so educated in what she does. And it was one of the big things that she spoke about is this idea

that Angela has never put herself into a situation or a position sexually that she didn't feel she was ready for or wanted to do. And it was because of her very strong boundaries around what she will and won't do when it comes to the sex and adult industry. Like everyone's watched porn at some point right I had so many questions and I got so excited I thought I could ask this person anything I've ever wanted to know about porn what do I want to know and the first thing that came to my head is are you really coming that's what I wanted to know like are you guys really orgasming or is it just an act and it's an interesting answer yeah and she talks about like the theatrics of it right like theatrics of the porn industry and how you are creating entertainment we also asked her the

best techniques for different types of sex acts. We talked about kinks and fetishes. Angela White is, like we said, one of the very, very top echelons when it comes to OnlyFans. And she talks about the different kinks and the different requests that she's received through that platform. Honestly, she is an incredibly open book. There was not one question that Angela wasn't prepared to answer. And for so many of us, porn is an industry that over the years we've had to make up our own opinions on, right? I think so many people have a different type of bias when it comes to this type of work. Some people are more liberal, more accepting of it. Other people have their own thoughts and opinions on it. And I would dare say that no matter where you sit on that

scale, Angela will challenge your opinions on the porn industry. She's intelligent. She's wonderful. And she was an absolute delight to talk to. I thoroughly enjoyed it. And I hope you guys do too. Now, this is our first time having an adult entertainer on the podcast, and I'm very excited about it. I feel like we literally shot straight to the top where we didn't get anyone. We got the one, the only Angela White. Welcome to the podcast. Wow. Thank you so much for having me. I feel honored to be your first. I'm taking your virginity. You are. Oh my God. Adult entertainer virginity gone. We just started this and we were like, what's your accidentally unfiltered story? What's your most embarrassing thing? And Angela's response to that was nothing makes me embarrassed anymore.

Yeah. I think it really does have to do with my job because we are so free at work. You know, I'm naked on the internet my gaping asshole is out there for everyone to see so I feel like I just don't get embarrassed about anything anymore the question I get asked a lot that I'm always stumped with is what's the funniest thing that's ever happened to you on set and I'm like ah I don't know nothing funny happens because I guess some people would be embarrassed or think it's funny if someone queefs or if there's like a bodily noise while you're having sex and it's so normalized in my industry that nothing that funny happens the only thing i can think of is there was one scene that i was doing i was fucking myself with a dildo and the director said something funny and it

actually shot out of my pussy and hit the camera operator in the head it's like a weapon it's one of those rubber ones so they're not super heavy so it was just a funny moment but those are the kinds of things i guess that happen on set but so question before we get into it i mean in my intro then I said adult entertainer but colloquially the term is porn star yeah how do you feel about that term and how do people in the industry feel about that term is that does that have like a derogatory connotation to it or is are you happy just to say porn star oh yeah I'm happy to be known as a porn star absolutely so how did you become a porn star no no okay let's be serious that was serious but I'll say that I'll say it a nicer way did you always grow up in a sex positive

environment like what was your upbringing like because one of the questions I always have when I see somebody in the porn industry is I feel like it's such an extreme jump for so many people is it sort of like that slow burn or how do you how do you get there well to your first question in terms of how I grew up it was a mixed bag in terms of whether it was a sex positive environment so at home it was sex positive my mum was very open with me about what sex was in fact she gave me a copy of the height report when I came of age so that I could learn how to masturbate because it's actually difficult when you're first learning your body to know how to make yourself orgasm so that was an amazing resource for me to learn how other women make themselves come so my home life

was very open and very sex positive but then as I started to express my sexuality during my high school years I was criticized for the way that I expressed and explored it so it was not sex positive in high school. This was way before slut walks, way before women were really starting to embrace their sexuality openly. So it was a tough time for me in high school and that was actually kind of what led me on the journey into porn because pornography was the first place where I saw women being celebrated for expressing their sexuality. And I was very explorative when I was young. I wanted to have sex with men and women and I just wanted to try everything. I was just so fascinated with sex and so excited to try things and you know my peers weren't very happy

about that yeah how do you like I mean and talking about like friend relationships because I would assume that growing up through school people would have an impression as to who you are and then when you're like cool I'm trying this thing I'm going to get into porn I'm doing xyz people would have such a strong feeling about it or they would have such a strong expectation as to who they thought you were going to be yeah how did you navigate that period of your life On the one hand, my close friends, they, as soon as I said I wanted to get into porn, they got it. They understood who I am. And they're like, okay, that's obvious. That's, that's your future. But I mean, kids are mean. Like if they have any opportunity to criticize

you about anything, they're going to do it. And at the time, sexuality was a great way to criticize someone, I guess. But when I finally got into pornography, I actually waited till I was 18, obviously but I was in my last year of high school when I turned 18 so I flew to America and shot my first scenes while still in high school so came back as magazines and DVDs were being released with my content so that was really interesting experience seeing how my peers reacted to that so you were technically you were of legal age you were 18 but you were technically still in school yes that's crazy and what was the reaction like that at school and with teachers because I mean I think the thing that makes me feel uncomfortable about that is the fact that

because you were technically still finishing school your teachers could have been watching that that actually never crossed my mind when I was doing it I actually one of my teachers helped me a lot a female teacher I'd never seen my arsehole I didn't know what arseholes were supposed to look like I'd never really looked at them even though I had watched porn and one of my first magazines the spread just had me completely spread open and I was like oh that's that that's what my asshole looks like is that normal I had no idea and now I realize it was I guess inappropriate at the time but one of the female teachers was happy to look for me and was like oh yeah it's totally normal at the time it was really helpful because I was like oh my god

I mean my question around this is like how do you make that transition especially at 18 when you're like this is something I wanted to try I wanted to get into it seems like listening to the story it seems like such an extreme version of getting into it you know I would have thought I did something I webcammed and then I did this and then like you know I met a local producer and then but like flying to the states and doing something that seems quite a full-on and immersive experience for your very first time in porn like what was your reaction to that and how did that opportunity even present itself it was all me I saw pornography at 14 and immediately wanted to do it obviously I waited till I was 18 to get involved in the industry but I had those four years to research

what I wanted to do which companies I wanted to shoot for how I could do it safely how I could contact them so I had four years of researching what my first steps would be to get into the industry I think that was really helpful for me did your parents at the time know that you were going to do that or was that something you felt like you couldn't tell them it's not that I couldn't tell them it's just that I was young and I was very open with my mom about my sexuality and things that I was exploring but I didn't tell her that until I turned 18 yeah in terms of you said that you found like safe ways in which to get into the industry because I think it has over time been shrouded with women who have been underprivileged or have been kind of like being

made to move into it out of circumstances how did you ensure that you were working with production companies that were safe how did you ensure that you were protecting yourself and I guess more broadly what was your experience in those first few years when you were so young it was a lot harder back then actually it's much easier now because you can contact other performers via social media and ask about their experiences or listen to performers on podcasts and they can talk about the companies they've had great experiences with for me back then social media wasn't big. So I literally just had to get access to pornography, read the magazines, read the interviews in the magazines. And one of the things that helped me choose the first company

that I worked with was they were working with a lot of international models. So it was clear that they were willing to fly international models around the world to shoot them. And these models kept coming back again and again and again. The rationale for me was like, well, they wouldn't keep coming back and shooting for this company if they weren't an ethical company or fun to shoot with so that was how I chose the first company that I worked with and then back in those days I mean I've been in the industry for 20 years now it was an old school disc that I sent them with a handwritten letter snail mail you're like fly me over yeah so you went to this is what I found fascinating but you went to university and you studied gender studies yeah talk to us a little

bit about that and why you didn't tell your peers that you were in porn so the reason I ended up studying at the University of Melbourne and focusing on gender studies and sex and sexuality was because when I got into porn it felt so liberating empowering it felt so great to be in this space where I could finally express and explore my sexuality in a safe place with peers that would support me so I was having the time of my life but when I would speak to other people that were in the industry they would ask questions like well don't you feel degraded and that it was a confusing question to me because what are you talking about I'm doing what I love I get to have sex with these incredible people all around the world and get paid yeah this is incredible for me

and it was those questions that led me down this rabbit hole of where are these arguments coming from and a lot of them were coming from anti-sex work feminist arguments and I wanted to learn more about that and that's why I ended up going down the route of gender studies and studying some of those, I mean, obviously not all feminists are anti-sex work. There's a lot of feminists that are sex positive. And so just learning those arguments so I could understand where those opinions were coming from was really important for me. And then the choice not to talk about what you did with your colleagues, your peers. Oh yes. I just, I wanted to be able to, I mean, I did study under Sheila Jeffries, who is an anti-sex work feminist, and I wanted to hear

her arguments without anyone kind of making an assumption that I was going to disagree or agree like I just wanted to hear what she had to say and I wanted to understand her arguments with an open mind I really did want to go in there with an open mind and understand where the negative arguments were coming from and I also I just wanted to study like a normal student I didn't want all the students there this was at a time when my profile was a lot smaller as well I just wanted to be treated like a regular student it's so interesting to know that you sat underneath someone who had very conflicting views to you and was like okay i'm open-minded to this i'm open-minded to your viewpoints and they want to understand why you feel the way that you feel of

an industry that you haven't necessarily worked in at all what did you take away from that i mean sheila is a little bit of an extreme case because she actually thinks penetrative sex is rape you You know, so it's... Okay, well, I mean, that's very problematic. Consensual sex. Yeah, yeah. So, look, I might be butchering her argument slightly, but I remember taking away that from her lectures.

Her lectures. Yeah, and that, you know, you should become a political lesbian. So I was like, okay, that's, you know, on the extreme end for me. I think it was good for me to learn the different ends of the spectrum and I think it really made me very balanced in the way that I see pornography because when I first started, i was like everything's incredible it's liberating it's the best thing i could ever do like and just seeing the other side being like okay so there are situations where maybe companies might not

act ethically or maybe women aren't setting up their boundaries strongly enough to create an environment where they feel safe so it just balanced out my view on the industry but i think it's incredible to have the flip side of it because you know and more and more people who have experienced your experience are speaking positively about it and saying well not everyone who's working within the industry are doing so under duress yes not everyone who's working the industry is doing so because they have no other options in life and I think it reframes the balance between the two because there will be people who have made those decisions because maybe they didn't have other options yeah but then there's people who are doing it and it is a

very much consenting and like liberating choice for them yeah in terms of like your benchmark now okay what you will and won't do what you're comfortable with what makes you uncomfortable has that grown over time like did you walk into the porn industry and go cool i'm only gonna do this kind of porn and then you're like oh i guess i'll do this then it kind of just evolves it's a porn snowball yeah you're like all of a sudden i'm here i actually did girl girl only for eight ears really yeah so I've really throughout my entire career I've really had very strong boundaries about what I will and won't do yeah and it's just always based on this fuck yeah principle so if someone asked me would you like to do this kind of scene and it isn't an immediate

fuck yeah then it's a no yeah I have to be enthusiastically consenting to whatever the scene type is or whatever the act is or otherwise it's just absolutely no I'm not ready has that that ever impacted you negatively in terms of career opportunities? Because that has, that's amazing. Because I think that that's something that people are fearful of. Like when you want to make it in an industry, it doesn't matter what industry is, some people feel fearful to say no to opportunities

and that's when you can get yourself into situations where you do things you're not comfortable with. No one made you do it, but you're doing it because you're fearful of what the no might bring versus, you know what I mean? Yeah. The internet means there's a space for everyone. There's a space for every niche.

there's a space for every body type and there's a space for what you want to do so for me I was very successful only doing girl girl I didn't need to do boy girl it just so happened that I got eight years into my career and I started thinking about boy girl and it was the first time that when I thought about it I didn't have some sort of niggling like oh I don't know which is not a fuck yeah eight years in I thought about boy girl and I was like fuck yeah it just was just a moment where I felt comfortable it was the transitional period in my life it was actually just after I'd graduated from the university of melbourne i was like i want to try something new and i started thinking about it and i was like yeah this is the right time i was really excited about doing

this interview because there's so many questions that i had even just me about when you watch porn those questions growing up that you're like the only way i'm ever going to know this is if i sit down and speak to a porn star so i'm frothing this do you actually orgasm for real in these situations or is it just like i'm literally here to act i've got my scene i'm just gonna go through the motions? For me, it's sometimes. And it really depends on the environment that the director creates. So if we're shooting a gonzo scene, which is an all sex non scripted scene, which means I'm able to do basically whatever I want with my onscreen partner, that is very conducive to real orgasms. That is when we're able to connect and really have authentic sex as if the camera wasn't

there but if i've been booked for a scene where it's going to be heavily directed and sometimes in heavily directed scenes the director is not only telling you which positions to go into they're telling you when and they're telling you when to orgasm so they're literally like okay doggy for 10 seconds flip yeah longer always longer five ten seconds no way but are they behind the screen going like in three, two, one, we're missionary. In five, four, three, we're doggie. Not quite like that, but yes. Because of course you're not going to come, right?

Yeah, I mean it's hard when a man in the corner is like, okay, come for us now. And he's not even involved in the scene. Yeah, and some directors say we need an orgasm in every position. But that also sounds like half of the people I ever slept with. They're like, okay, come now. Come now. And I'm like, nowhere near it, babe.

Like it's not going to happen. I would love to know like how does it impact your dating life in the real world? Do you only date people who work in the entertainment industry? Do people get jealous? Like how do you navigate your real life dating alongside your on-screen romances? It's a lot easier for me to date within the industry or in entertainment in general because I think people in the entertainment industry get it a little bit more but I'm always open to dating outside. It's just it's hard to understand the industry when you're not in it. Yeah and I guess like so many people and it lives on such a scale but there is so much bias you know and there are so many preconceived ideas about it

and so even if you think that you show up to this space quite liberal thinking I think unless you've actually worked in it and you understand the nuances you're always going to have some feelings of like oh but what about that scene or what about this thing you know there's always going to be a question mark somewhere in your mind and it's so hard to overcome that in total well i don't think the question will always be there because there are a lot of performers that do have partners that are not in the industry that are not performers themselves and so i think over time you can even if you're not in it and you haven't done it i mean you're not going to understand it a hundred percent yeah but being around it long enough you're going to understand like the

differences and the boundaries and you know porn sex versus real life sex and what the dynamics are so there it's possible yes yeah but I think it just comes down to the person the individual you're going to date and I mean I dated someone once that didn't want me to kiss somebody in a scene in an acting scene because they were like I feel like that's cheating I'm not happy with it so if if that individual they might respect your job and understand its work but still not be comfortable with watching you fuck someone else all the time and that just comes down to the person yeah so have you ever dated outside i have yeah yeah i have and it has worked it has worked so i think you're right it is about the individual person and their comfort levels and yeah and the insecurity

levels you know it leads a lot of people out yeah yeah i can only imagine you have a very interesting story about how you got into how well how do i put this knowing how well you could do anal how did you discover this because i would love to know the ins and outs of how you get to a place where you're like well didn't know my body could do that but ding ding well yeah originally i was not gonna do anal in porn i did not think that my butt could do what it clearly can do if you've seen well done because mine absolutely fucking can't well you you say that no i've tried it's not going it's a one-way street fair enough everybody's everybody's body is different but it was during a webcam show that I learned that my butthole is quite magical I was it's a magical

unicorn yeah I was just I was doing a one-on-one show and I slid one finger in my ass and it felt good so I thought well I'll just slip in a second and then a third went in really easy and a four and I was so relaxed and then suddenly I had my whole fist in my arm you're like how do we get yeah you're like i'm shoulder deep i'm like there's no coming back i'm like okay wow like as long as i'm in an environment where i feel safe and relaxed i mean obviously i was in my bedroom at home doing this webcam show so it was a very safe relaxing environment i was like wow my butthole can open up and that's the moment that i was like with my hand on my butt i was like i can take porn-sized dicks in my butt i can like i can do but also i love that that's the moment

where you have this little light bulb you're like well here we are in this compromising position but I know what I'm in for now once you've recorded something and it's out there forever especially if you're kind of discovering it when you're on screen have you ever done anything where you've then turned around and been like oh maybe I wish I hadn't done that or have you always felt as you've kind of moved along this process that you're like okay I feel really confident and happy with the decisions I've made. And there's been no regrets. So I don't regret anything. And there's nothing that I've done that I thought I wish I hadn't done that. But there's things that I've done that I'm like, okay, I've learned I don't want to do that again. Yeah. And that's been about

exploring my boundaries on camera. And it's been great being a director and producer because all of my first I directed and produced myself. So I directed my first DP, my first anal, my first blow bang my first gang bang my first double anal so i'm in control what's dp i'm so double penetration oh i'm so vanilla i was like i'm glad you asked because we in the industry we have all these this terminology that we use that i guess regular people don't so if i ever say something that dp okay yeah so that's one in the pussy and one in the butt yeah and then you can do i've done tp which is triple penetration where's the third so mouth no well no that's airtight oh god see Laura, duh.

That's airtight. No air going in. So triple would be two in the vagina and one in the butt or two in the butt and one in the vagina. How do they come at you like that? Yeah, the hardest part is the bodies because the male bodies have to get. There's too many bodies. There's too many people.

Yeah, it's a lot of bodies. So, okay, question. When you're in a quote-unquote normal job, like you work at a hospital and you've got your pay grades and you tick the boxes and you're like, I can be paid more now because I've done this. Is it the same in the porn industry where if you are performing, if you're going from dp to treat tp yes oh yes tight light whatever if you're going up the pay

grades and then you're going to gang bangs and you're going to anal like from vaginal to anal and these all reasons where you go to a production and you say if i'm doing triple i'm getting paid more if i'm doing anal i'm getting paid more of course the more labor the more pay i love this i'm loving the moment where you're like i have my fist in my backside and i am gonna get paid more for this you're like i this is i've unlocked i've unlocked a new level you know in my whole career it's never been about money it's always been about what i'm excited to do and that's the thing like when i'm directing the scene it's not like i'm paying myself more for these acts but definitely if i'm working for another company and i'm doing anal anal requires more labor time

yeah there's a lot of uh there's a process that we go through to clean out and prepare for anal so more labor time equals more money and for me I always said like you're not paying me extra for anal you're paying me not to eat because I love eating yeah totally yeah like for that pre-care and the aftercare what about only fans because that has completely changed the landscape of adult entertainment how has it been different for you and when it very first came out like was there a process of jumping on board or did you see it instantly as like okay this is an another avenue for me to be able to work but also earn an income but also, you know, explore this industry in a different way.

It was really COVID that got me on OnlyFans. Yes. And I was in my house, not able to shoot how I usually do and I was like, what can I do? I still want to express my sexuality and be able to earn a living and I thought, okay, I had already opened, I had an OnlyFans but I wasn't really using it. I was updating it very sporadically and so OnlyFans was great

during the pandemic because I could just work from home and do my little shows, just solo masturbation and still earn money and still have a way to connect with my fans, which was great. And you're in the top 0.01%. So I'm fascinated and you do not have to answer this if you don't want to. But we see a lot of big people come out saying, I'm in the top 0.01%. I earned $7 million in two months, whatever.

What does the finances look like for you in terms of that? You don't have to give us a dollar value, but is it what we're seeing? Is it as lucrative as what we're seeing? Yes, some of those numbers are absolutely realistic. Not everybody in the top 0.01% is making $7 million in two months. But it's really good money. It's really amazing. And it's definitely changed the entire porn industry because it's empowered performers to be their own boss. Every performer is now a content creator. So they're owning their own content, which they can use later on down the track for passive income. They get to use that

for the rest of their lives to earn money it's been really incredible life-changing money for a lot of people and that makes the porn industry a better place too because there's less people going into the porn industry for financial reasons because you can just do your own OnlyFans so now people in porn are like oh I'm here because I really really really freaking want to be here do you think because I think it's almost like the surefire way of making money is the way it's been sold people think if they start an OnlyFans they're going to make a lot of money very very quickly And I guess the trouble then that some people might run into is that they're getting into the industry for the wrong reasons. They're getting into it because it's, you know, they think that

they're going to be making tens of thousands of dollars almost instantly versus the love of the industry. Well, just because somebody says they're in the top 0.01% doesn't mean that that money came easily. There's a lot of work that goes into that. I think that people that already have a public profile so I had already built up my name and brand within the industry before I got on to OnlyFans it's I'll say easier it's not easy it's easier for me to earn money on OnlyFans because I've already built up that fan base that I from social media that I can push towards my OnlyFans if you already have built up a brand and a name then you can take your fans with you to another platform if you're starting with with no brand you're gonna have to build that brand up so it's

not like a get rich quick scheme well it's the same as like i mean you know the comparable is like starting an instagram account and thinking that you're instantly going to have hundreds of thousands of followers like it's the same thing about growing this audience base around what's your offering yeah it's a business you've got to build it what is more lucrative the porn industry or only fans for you only fans you're like by far by far what impact has that had on the adult entertainment industry in terms of like a traditional sense because back in the day when it was production houses and it was bigger larger scale shoots and now people are able to do it in their own homes or have more agency over their work has that had a flow-on effect in terms of

how porn is produced well i will say to the start of your question when porn became more easily accessible that was actually really bad for the adult industry because piracy and torrenting meant that there was less money for the industry which also meant less money for performers the great thing about OnlyFans is it's behind a paywall so now fans need to pay if they want access to the content so I think OnlyFans has been really positive in that sense yeah that's so interesting what would be some of the weirdest requests that you get on OnlyFans I will say nothing's weird to me anymore nothing nothing's weird but I will say what would I find weird okay what requests that you get would I find weird on OnlyFans I get requests for absolutely everything from

foot fetish stuff to shrinking fetishes what's a shrinking thing so there are people that like the idea of being shrunk so for example i'll give them like like put in the oven like a little packet of chips that shrink well usually not in the oven it's usually a potion you know i give you a little lemonade and i put a little magic potion in there and you drink it you don't know what's happening and then suddenly you start to shrink and you become little tiny this is a thing wait what was that big thing what was that movie that was around when we were all kids and they shrunk the kids. That's a fetish that's been like instilled in people

from that movie, I reckon. I never thought about that, but I think you might be right. So people, so this isn't just like a couple of people. This is a proper fetish that people want to think that they're a tiny little thing. Yeah. And then you have sex. No, okay.

So they want all different things. They're all unique. So some just want to play hide and seek. So they're like the idea of like. Stop. I need everything. I need so much more. So I'm a giantess.

So usually when I do these custom videos or when I used to do it on webcam, what I would do is I'd give them the potion and then I'd take the webcam or the camera and I'd slowly put it down on the floor. So it looks like I'm growing, that they're shrinking. So I'd slowly put it down on the floor so they're really tiny and then they're looking up at me so I look like a giantess. And then we'd play hide and go seek. So I'd be in my heels and I'd kind of stomp around, look for them.

And then some want to be picked up and put in your pocket, it just carried around with you or like put in your cleavage and this is incredible to me i was gonna say is there anyone living in your vagina right now everyone's out and then there are some people that actually go a step further and they like vor so they like the idea of being eaten by you so this is so i mean yeah it's fascinating i guess it's like the list of things that people can enjoy is like whatever your imagination could come up with like it's literally limitless I think I know but it's so fascinating to me and I think it is it's truly incredible to get to a point where nothing where you're like that's cool

like let's do this you know like or and I'm sure that there's some requests that you get where you're like you know what that's it's outside something I feel comfortable doing but that's right you do you boo yeah but I think it's very very cool to have such little shame stigma judgment because that's the biggest thing especially when it comes to kinks most people are so embarrassed to ask for the things that get them off because it is seen as being like embarrassing or shameful and it's it's a very cool and liberating place to be where you are and even to see that in the way that you speak and the way that you explain it it's very very very nice what in addition to that what are some of the things that you have put a boundary up and you've said that request

is too far anything illegal anything involved in defecation yeah I mean as long as it's fun and consenting I'm open to to different fantasies even some like consensual non-consent fantasies like I personally like those as fantasies obviously I don't think that your fantasies have to be politically correct I think as long as it's happening between consenting adults then yeah what is sex like for you outside of work and I say that because you know you hear chefs that cook all day and they go home and they don't want to cook anymore they don't want to cook for their family they're like why would I want to do that I've done that all day does that take away the magic of you for sex in your real life with a partner when you have been having sex on camera

all day no that's no I love sex the thing is I will say that my sex life off camera is much more intimate because I'm finally able to so when we're on set we have to open up for the light we have to open up for the camera so you can see the penetration so when I'm not having sex on camera I love to be really close to someone, wrap my legs around them, wrap my arms around them, like just be really, really close, which I can't always be in porn. So I would say if anything, it's increased my intimacy offset. Do you have people that come to you and ask for advice often in terms of not just how to get into the industry, but also like how to have better sex themselves? Yeah, I do get my every time I go to a convention, almost every fan has some question

to ask about whether it's like how do i perform this sexual act or how do i become closer with my partner so i try to create a safe environment for my fans to be able to ask me those questions just like i try to create a safe environment for my fans to share their fantasies that maybe they don't feel comfortable sharing with other people in their lives especially with sex because i think we just expect people to be good at it but it's like anything you get better at it when you learn what you're doing what someone likes everyone likes different things i go back to like being in your 20s you kind of would just be like oh they're good at it or they're bad at it it was like something that you're expected to have this like natural affinity for i would love to know in

terms of like tips tricks things that you recommend and maybe there's a few that we can throw at you okay if somebody was like where do i start with a blow job what would be your number one that you're like this is how this is the top three yeah these are the rules and regulations when it comes to finessing the blowjob obviously with any sex act communication is key asking in a sexy way what your partner likes or as you're going down and doing it being like do you like that do you want it faster slower just adding communication in a sexy way even though she said that i was like so i think that's the number one for it but that's any sex act that's the number one thing is communication and then lots of spit for a blow job i think going nice and slow is good don't

always like look at porn like sometimes we're giving like very aggressive deep throating blow jobs this is theatrical blow jobs i think going nice and slow and sensual is really nice and then building up to deep throating if you want to but honestly i think deep throating looks incredible in pornography i actually don't think it's like the greatest feeling for every guy or the girl all the girls yeah i was like spear in the back some things that you watch on porn are theatrical because there is that debate around well is it changing the way that people think sex is supposed to be especially for like young people who watch porn and then they're like maybe that's how i'm supposed to behave in the bedroom like what would be your advice to that because firstly young people

should not be watching porn yeah it's for adults it's made by adults for adults so that's the first thing and it's just like any kind of media like if a kid's watching an action film it's easy for parents to explain to them okay this car that's jumping over a bridge this is not how we drive we don't watch the fast and furious to learn how to drive we don't watch porn to learn how to have sex like it is in the end entertainment and there are things in porn that are real sex but depending on the kind of scene that you're shooting it'll be could be more theatrical yeah and i find this so interesting because when i say young people i don't necessarily mean i don't mean kids yeah like my long-term boyfriend and that was my you know one of two sexual partners at the time so i

didn't really i didn't have much comparison he watched so much porn like i'm talking he would masturbate six times a day because he watched porn all the time like maybe which action level 100 which i didn't know at the time that that was what was going on do we live together but the sex was always as though he was trying to have sex like we were in a porno and it sucked like the sex for me was not good because there was no intimacy it was rough but it was also it was type of porn that he liked but it certainly wasn't the type of porn that i like and i think that sometimes some people can think if they don't have the experience like that's how it's supposed to be that's my reference for sex i think there's also a communication problem there and i think that

maybe in general people have a hard time still talking to their partners about sex because if he was communicating with you and asking you do you like this baby like and you could be like no stop it my cleats about to fall off like if there's no communication there as well like it's not i mean he has to be you know aware enough to ask you what you like and you have to be confident enough to be truthful in the answer and maybe during the moment in the sex it's not the easiest to have that conversation but maybe having a moment before or after sex to talk about like what feels good for your body would really help in those moments because i mean there are some things that are done in porn that potentially could feel great for you but other

things i mean everybody is different as well one of the questions we get a lot from our listeners is dirty talk and if it's something that a lot of people aren't comfortable with and when they are it's pretty limited like it's very standardized like yeah baby yeah like that fuck me yeah how do you suggest people start to bring that dirty talk in and what are some examples of things that are just like easy to put out there from the beginning i think the easiest way to start with dirty talk is just to describe in a sexy way what's happening or what you want to happen so like if you're having penetrative sex just talk about how it feels like your cock feels so good inside my pussy go a little slower oh my gosh yes right there suck on my tits while you do it

this is why you need people who have actually got the experience because anytime we've ever spoken about dirty talk you and i brit we're like um do it like this like not as i do do as i say speak for yourself i'm pretty good i think i'm doing all right but i think the other thing that's really important is it has to feel natural to you yeah don't copy and paste what you hear in porn unless that's kind of how you feel and that's what you want you really need to be in the moment thinking about your body what you want what your partner likes don't write a script just be in the moment be like yes I love how you're touching me like that will you pull my hair please whatever it is hey you might start talking dirty to them and they might start just talking dirty back in

ways that you never imagined they would so I think and that's another thing about communication it's all about being in the moment and seeing how your partner reacts and if they're reacting in a great way keep doing what you're doing but also making it authentic to you one thing I'm interested in is I mean the last couple of years we've seen this movement with the me too movement what is that like in your industry when you know we're hearing and talking about people that are crossing boundaries what is that like in your industry is it something you experience when normal people crossing boundaries for you the boundary starts at sex like your job is to be having sex and having those yeah those really close connections with people is it something your industry has experienced

and have you ever experienced something like that I've been really fortunate that I've never experienced something like that personally but the industry had our own me too movement at the same time as the mainstream industry did so there were a lot of people that were weeded out of the industry that we're doing unethical things. And as a result of that, more and more mainstream companies have now implemented a consent boundary checklist before we actually shoot the scene. So before, so I'm a contract staff for Brazzers, which is the biggest porn company in the world. And before we actually shoot any part of the sex, the talent sit down with a talent liaison, and we go through an extensive checklist of sex acts. And we mark yes, no, and then there's a

little spot for clarification so it goes through everything from kissing to hair pulling to nipple pinching penetrative sex object insertion pegging rimming the list is endless and we say yes no or clarification so we might say yes to choking but light what happens in the instances though where you're doing it alongside someone and they have overstepped so even if you say okay yeah i'm fine with light choking but maybe in the moment someone has gotten carried away with the role that they're playing what happens is there a stop down like how does that get navigated so that's why we have the talent liaison on set so they're watching the scene and if any point anyone over steps a boundary where we've said no on the checklist then they're there to step in cut and

like make sure everyone's okay it's never actually happened to me personally but they're there as a safety guard to make sure and then also performers on set have the right at any moment to call cut any moment and that's standard with all of the production that's standard okay so at any moment if you're uncomfortable even if you need a water break or you're getting a cramp whatever it might be why you you need to stop for a moment god you're going hard if you're craving i haven't cramped in a long time i need to up the ante but yeah what would be your recommendation if there's someone who wants to get into the industry and i mean i know that we have only fans and there's so much more accessible information on online but for someone who's done it and navigated themselves

what would be your recommendation for the safest way to explore the adult industry? I think exploring it on your own first before you start working with any mainstream companies is a great idea. So starting an OnlyFans or starting a Pornhub channel and just directing your own scenes and creating your own content first so that then you can kind of know what your boundaries are before you're even getting onto a mainstream porn set. I think you learn a lot through self-producing and directing and for me the biggest thing that made me a better performer was actually editing my own scenes yeah like looking back and seeing where my placement was for my leg for example like just a couple of inches moving your knee forward can let the light

in let let the camera see the penetration these things really help you become a better performer as someone that has literally tried everything as in some capacity what's your favorite position and the quickest way for you to orgasm oh the quickest is probably okay i'm gonna i'm gonna put it out here i love edging so a quick orgasm for me is not ideal i love to edge and just like really build it up so i can have a really hard orgasm if i really just want to get it done then penetration with a vibe on my clit is the quickest so mission on your own well on my own yeah that is the absolute quickest yeah but if I want to be really quick with a partner then missionary penetrative sex and a vibe on my clit that's amazing but I think my favorite is either

going to be missionary or cowgirl so that I can have close missionary close cowgirl so I have clitoral stimulation at the same time as penetration that's the best for me what's been the most like of all this probably hard for you to pin down but like of all the experiences that you've had, I'm sure you have one or two where you're like, that was fucking insane. What would that be for you? In terms of porn? In terms of porn, in terms of, I mean, we don't have to go

into your personal life, but like moments in your sexual experiences where you were like, fucking didn't know my body could do that or that was truly another level that I reached and I'm glad we went there. I think it was when she put a fist in her arse. Yeah. Top three for me in terms of sexual experiences. The first one is going to be the scene with Manuel where I cried,

which has been covered across a lot of media. You can find it by searching Angela White gets emotional after cream pie. So it was my – I fucking love that headline. We're not talking about cream pie at the diner. It was covered in the New York Post, in Melmac. There's been a lot of coverage on Vice. It was my most viral scene and it was a very intimate scene with Manuel.

we'd worked together a lot and we just built such incredible chemistry and the scene was just so beautiful it felt so romantic and wonderful and then afterwards I was just overcome with these emotions that I just cried in his arms it was like the aftercare of the scene and it was recorded so I just put it up there online but did people have the wrong impression of what that was like did it go viral okay right no so there wasn't any interpretation of that being like that you were sad it was an interpretation of like this was magical yeah it was a magical magical moment in fact that's one of the most magical sex experiences that i've ever had in my life on or off camera just then the the second is actually another crygasm that i had that was off camera

wish it had been on camera crygasm is like i laughgasm i have an orgasm that i laugh afterwards do you yeah way to kill the mood i know he's like what the fuck you're laughing at crying also i would debate that that also is a bit of a mood killer if you're like they're sobbing because it feels it's a release it's a real thing it's a release yeah it's like you've you've had like an orgasm you've had that kind of orgasm can be like a full body release too but then to cry as well afterwards it's just like it just feels so good okay so what was the second one then when you're like i'm in my crygasm era it was actually my first gangbang when i did my first gangbang that was the first time that I really like I was watching that back and I was like oh my god I'm a

porn star like it was like that was the first moment that I was like wow I'm really I'm really doing it I'm really I'm living this life yeah I in my first gangbang I I went hard I did double penetration I did triple penetration I did I mean I did everything it was yeah double anal double vag it was hard and I was like wow I am I'm killing it I'm like this is it if anal is something that you're like really enjoying and love exploring anyway i wouldn't bother but if it's something that you really enjoy then you can explore what is the tips and advice for someone who wants to get into because we kind of scooted around we did oral dirty talk and now we're at anal okay what are the tips it's all about being relaxed it really i'm very uptight yeah okay so very stressed

you're very anal i'm really stressed so glad i didn't want to say it i'm pretty anal yeah you step without it yeah you yeah you're just your arsehole is clenched yeah yeah and your arsehole and your jaw are connected so if you're clenching your jaw that is so interesting so you need to be completely relaxed relax your jaw i also recommend the best way to do anal is to do it on your own first because having any external pressure of somebody wanting to get in there or be involved it's just not conducive to like full relaxation i think anal place should begin on your own and i think start small and sometimes you have to go small for a while before you're ready to even take a second finger and there's no shame in that it takes time she goes try and put it in it's not

going in walks away but this is the thing if you're the person that says i can't do it there's always people who are like you just haven't tried this one thing try it a bit more and then you can finally get there yeah i'm not i'm not necessarily into the whole idea of just keep trying like if it's not something like not everybody has to be into anal sex totally look if you're curious on your own slowly you start by the out don't even slip a finger in just play with your spokes just circle the outside put pressure on it and if you like that sensation then you could explore lubing up a fingertip and just putting it in but if you do all these things and you're just like it doesn't feel good why why pursue it it's well then i guess in that case you're pursuing it for

someone else you're not pursuing it for yourself which is the whole problem with how a lot of people experience sex in the first place yeah angela last question and we're gonna let you go because otherwise we'll keep you here forever. We're doing our own sex ed. Forever, yeah. Last question. Do you think everybody, every woman can squirt? Because this is like one of those myths, right?

Like some people are like, I can never do it. Then you hear people say, I believe every single person can do it if you just know the right techniques. What are your thoughts? No, I think everybody is different. And I think that that's just, again, lumping more pressure on women to do theatrical sex acts. Like, no, some women can, some women can't.

I think we can leave it at that. I mean sure if you're interested in trying there are plenty of techniques that you can do to see if you can squirt but yeah I think everybody is different so well I have thoroughly enjoyed this chat thank you so much I'm really invested in every single thing that you said I could talk like I said before I could talk to you for hours I find it really fascinating so thank you so much for being so open literally metaphorically literally i genuinely like we laugh and we joke a lot but we mean it thank you for being so open because not a lot of people are and i think it makes a really big difference to helping the stigma to helping people and especially women

realize that liking sex doesn't make you a slut wanting to have you know like this is what we're taught when we're at school wrong with being a slut if no but that's but that's the word slut has always when you're a teenager had this really horrible negative connotation to it like that was the word that if you wanted to be nasty to someone at school when you were kids that was what you said to them yeah where at the end of the day we like sex as much as everyone else and I think you're doing a lot for the industry I think overarchingly especially when we were young it's changed so much now and it depends on the industry that you're in it depends culturally where you're from but like enjoying sex and being verbal about it like talking about it especially

as a woman is shameful it's embarrassing it's like well don't do that because you know people will get an impression of who you are and it's very interesting to hear someone speak about the adult entertainment industry but speak about it from a place of liberation not from a place of oppression which is what so many people have been led down the path of believing that that's what it entails i'm gonna dirty talk so hard with ben suck my teeth he's not gonna know we're in long distance it doesn't do it so you gotta do what you gotta do thank you so much for having me it's been an absolute pleasure everyone if you enjoyed the episode please go and hit subscribe wherever you're listening it means that the episodes will fall into your library every single week and you

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