Life Uncut - From a Rooster to a Radio Star- Uncut with Mitch Churi

Episode Date: March 7, 2022

Happy Tuesday Lifers!Today we have a (hopefully) familiar voice for you!Mitch Churi has done a lot of things; he's hosted the ARIAs and many TV shows, interviewed some of the biggest music stars in th...e world, hostsa national radio show nightly and also been the KIIS cash cock; but to add to his never ending list of achievements, he is also the cohost of our Saturday radio show!In this episode Mitch speaks openly about his journey in the entertainment industry as well as his 'coming out' process. Mitch is one of the funniest people we've ever known and he'll be sure to put a bit of a laugh into your day!We open this episode by talking about the reaction that Pamela Anderson has had to the Pam and Tommy hulu series, and how yet again, her personal life is being shared without her consent.If you love the ep, share it with a friend. Tell your mum, tell you dad, tell your friend, tell your dog and share the love because we love love! x xSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A Life Uncut podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respect to their elders, past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples today. This episode is recorded on Gadigal land of the Aurora Nation. hey guys and welcome back to another episode of life uncut i'm britney and i'm laura and this is well this is our meaty tuesday episode for anybody who is new to podcast and joining us hi hi welcome it's always nice to have new listeners fuck it's been a big couple of weeks hasn't it
Starting point is 00:00:55 I feel like the world is going down the gurgler, but we are not going to focus on that. We're going to let the last few weeks be, and we're going to try and bring something a little bit lighthearted. Definitely. And also I think, you know, we want this podcast, we spoke about it on the last episode, but we want this podcast to be a little bit of escapism for you guys. So as much as we all know, and are very, very aware of all of the bad stuff that's happening in the world at the moment, I think that there's an incredible amount of overwhelm and we're all feeling it we're all taking on so much of it through social media and through the news at the moment and this we just want this to be a little safe space and yeah and Laura and I we
Starting point is 00:01:31 have touched on a lot in our personal social so we didn't want to bring it here today but it was Mardi Gras this past weekend Laura have you ever been to Mardi Gras or did you do anything for it did you celebrate I've never been to Mardi Gras and it's weird because I'm so I'm like here I'm the biggest supporter but I've never actually made it into Mardi Gras to the actual festival never been on a float definitely watch the floats well I don't think anyone can go on the floats anymore from what I think it's like you sit in the audience and you watch the parade so at the moment it's at the cricket ground in Sydney that started a few years ago when COVID came but from what I have seen I had some friends that posted stories and stuff and it looks like you can't
Starting point is 00:02:10 really get that involved anymore which just bloody sucks but it looked amazing and she was in the stands well I did actually that's a funny story so I went out but I didn't go to Mardi Gras but I went out and I had some like some drinks and some little celebrations with some friends and I see I'm out at this bar and I see across the dance floor what looks like a really sparkly glittery fish a fish coming towards me across the dance floor and it's like being producer Keisha who was very intoxicated producer Keisha went to my gosh had a great time she wore this dress that looked it was beautiful it was like bright pink and it looked like little fish scales and she kept referring to herself as a fish and I was like you don't look like a fish and then I was
Starting point is 00:02:47 like, actually, wait, yes, you do. You look like a drunk fish, but she had a great time. We had a great time. But because of Mardi Gras, our guest today is none other than radio expert host, e-entertainment news host, and all around gay superstar, Mitch Turi. He's joining us on the podcast. So you guys will probably know the voice of Mitch Turi. So Mitch Turi is our co-host on the radio show that we do every Saturday. And he's just become such a wonderful friend of Britain mine. And we wanted to be able to sit down and have a conversation with him more around who he is as a person. One, how did he get into the role in radio that he is, but also what was his experience in realizing his sexuality and coming out and sharing that with his family and what it
Starting point is 00:03:30 is like now that he's in a very, very happy relationship with his partner Hayden. And also because he is part of this Life Uncut community and we wanted you to be able to put a story to the name and to the voice. Yeah, we know what an incredible human he is and we wanted you guys to just know a little bit more about him because we did want to keep this episode a little bit happier and more light. He is genuinely, fuck, he's one of the funniest people. You cannot be in a room with Mitch Turi and be sad. For even one minute in, you are laughing within him being in your presence for 60 seconds, guaranteed. And if it's not, something's amiss in the world, but he's just the funniest person. And that was the reason why we wanted to sit down and chat
Starting point is 00:04:05 with him today because we were like, you know what everybody needs? Everybody needs something that's like a little ray of sunshine. And we hope that that's what this episode is. But also on top of it being Mardi Gras on Saturday, today, the day that this episode comes out, it is also International Women's Day. And we obviously International Women's Day is such an incredibly important day for all women, for Britt and I in particular. We are so incredibly proud of this awesome community we have that all of the lifers, I mean, you guys are 99% or maybe 98%, but it's 98% women.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And it's just, it's so incredible to see so many women who support each other and have a safe and like respectable space to be able to share their stories. One thing I do want to say that I do want to do a little shout out to the New South Wales government, because often we shit on the government a lot for a lot of reasons. But one thing that I did think was really cool that is happening at the moment is that in a $30 million state government program, sanitary items like pads and tampons are now available for free in all schools in New South Wales. So I do think that is a really big thing. I think it's a win for women and young girls that should have happened a very long time ago. It blows my mind that it's 2022 and we're like, oh, hang on. Yes. Not only
Starting point is 00:05:14 should we not tax these items, but we should make them available for girls and women in schools around New South Wales. Is this private schools as well? Or is it just state schools? Yeah. So, and this is the thing. Firstly, this is so far only New South Wales, as far as I know. So the rest of the country needs to get on board if they haven't already. It is also only state schools. So all of these private schools are going to have to pick up their act and join the party. Do you know what this does though, like having sanitary items readily available in schools, it also de-stigmatizes something that like every girl when they're in high school, like, you know, I mean, some girls get their periods when they're in primary school, but most girls get their period
Starting point is 00:05:49 when they're in high school and they're so scared shitless of it. They're scared shitless of getting period blood on their dresses that maybe the boys will see. It's a conversation that's like, it's awkward and it's uncomfortable. And unless your parents are very open about talking about this and talking about female development it can feel incredibly isolating and like a bit of a do you talk to your friends about it what do you do having sanitary items readily available in a female toilet in a public school it completely destigmatizes that conversation it makes it so so much less scary and gives so much more accessibility to it well the big thing is accessibility unfortunately not all families and parents are people are in situations to
Starting point is 00:06:27 to have these on board and that's a really really sad fact but it is and it's something that no girl should ever have to worry about if I'm going to, if I'm going to have enough sanitary products for this month. So I'm, I'm really here for it. I hope every other school around Australia, private and public come to the party. Anyway, one other thing I wanted to say is I had a real moment of like, I've made it this week. Like I just feel like I've made it. Was it an article in a newspaper? Was it a sexy photo shoot? It was pretty sexy. I got photographed, but not by paparazzi. I had a photo sent to me in my DMs and I just thought it was the fucking funniest thing. I put on my stories if you haven't seen already, but I have a photo of me walking Delilah. And
Starting point is 00:07:06 the message I got was, I love your podcast. I got so starstruck by seeing you. But the thing I love the most is watching you pick up shit from the side of the road, watching you pick up your dog shit. And it's a photo of me that someone's taken. I've never seen them zoomed in across the road. And it's just me and Delilah walking, but I'm literally have a handful of shit in my hand. And I was like, I've made it. I have literally, this is when you know it's, this is when you know you've made it but i was like is this a little bit creepy that there's someone behind me taking a photo of me picking up shit i don't know you're there also does this not just reinforce that you have to be a like respectable member of society every single day at every single moment because
Starting point is 00:07:41 you don't know who's actually just watching and taking these like vigilante paparazzi photos so bennett street dairy shout out because i love their cookies but they just wrote to me now like imagine if you didn't pick it up this could have been 10 times worse and i was like i always always pick a dog poop up because there's nothing more annoying than when you're walking down the street and there's a big turd and someone, oh, like if you're a dog owner, you have to pick your poop up. If you run out of poo bags, you have to wait until you find another dog owner to ask for a poo bag. There's like unwritten laws around dog ownership, or even if it's a runny one, you've got to at least attempt. Even if it's in the grass, you just attempt to pick it up. Let me tell you,
Starting point is 00:08:15 let me tell you a story that happened to me, right? So I've started to take out a lot more bags. Delilah's got some pretty healthy bowel movements. We were on Bondi promenade. She had been swimming and she had obviously swallowed a lot of seawater. You know, when you're a kid and you drink a lot of seawater. Or when you do the lemon detox diet and you have a salt water flush. It was exactly the same thing. So we were on Bondi promenade, which is always packed. I was out of bags, but I had like a little handbag on me. Anyway, she stopped in the middle of the promenade and did the biggest poop, but it was most of it. 80, 80% was runny, right? And I'm sorry. No, you have to bear with me. 80% it was runny, but there were some parts that you could
Starting point is 00:08:51 pick up. Anyway, everyone's around looking at you. So you have to do it. And I was mortified. I was like I don't have a bag on me I'm so embarrassed but I have to be seen to do something now I had obviously gotten some earrings maybe they were Tony May I don't know but they were in a you know like there's tiny little jewelry bag to pick up your dog but you know like oh you know when you'd get a bag of screws for for like a do-it-yourself from Ikea those tiny little bags it was probably for one of my do-it-yourselves picture putting three fingers in the bag anyway I was about to do it and it was it was hilarious it was like a comedy skit when this guy runs up to me he's like wait I've seen the bag you were just about to use to pick up that poop he's like
Starting point is 00:09:25 just stop he's like that and I was like I'm so sorry I'm mortified someone's gonna be watching me taking photo he's like you can borrow one of my bags why didn't you just ask someone because there was no one in the vicinity at the time you just wait you just bide your time I was I was too worried people were looking at me I just wanted to I wanted to pick it up and run I was mortified anyway that's enough about my dog's poop like thank you I'm glad that we're gonna wrap on this now it was a lot of poo stories but like no there's there's a there's a lot of rules when it comes to owning a dog. Like you just can't ever leave it. That's hard. That's why I can't have kids. You certainly can't ever leave that either. But there was something else that we wanted to
Starting point is 00:09:58 talk to you guys about on this episode before we get into the very funny and lovely chat with the wonderful Mitch Turi. And that is another very strong, but incredibly misrepresented in the media female. And that is Pamela Anderson. And firstly, I want to start by saying when we just were doing some deep diving into Pamela Anderson, like everybody knows who Pamela Anderson is. She was iconic on Baywatch back in the day for us growing up she still is now but I just forgot and I said to Laura I was like I forgot how stunning Pamela Anderson was I'm looking at her now and I'm like she was literal perfection but also she was known for being very scandalous like there was a huge sex tape that was uncovered in the 90s I think that everybody knows the vague
Starting point is 00:10:45 story around this sex tape the reason why she has made headlines again recently is because there is a docuseries that's come out on Hulu and it's called Pam and Tommy. Now the docuseries is all about the sex tape that was uncovered, but the way that they're framed this is that it's actually around the story about how the sex tape, which was like the original sex tape that kind of was released. Before Kim Kardashian's sex tape. 100%. It was the OG. The OG uncovered sex tape. There is a series that's come out on Hulu called Pam and Tommy. And now Pamela Anderson, when this was released came out and said that she didn't give her consent and that even though it was a fictional series it's obviously based off very true and real happenings at a time when she was the victim
Starting point is 00:11:27 in this crime and she didn't give them consent nor did she want them to create this series but they went ahead and did it anyway. Yeah they're calling this a fictional docu-series because I guess at the end of the day this is their semi-made-up account of what happened but it is based on Pamela and Tommy's story so they can't call it a documentary because it's not but it is based very heavily on their story Pamela did say she doesn't want a bar of it which I can I'm 100% here for I can agree to they didn't consult her on it and she didn't want it's not factual so imagine having your story taken from you and told at a level of that capacity like it's going to be everywhere it is huge and you aren't even in control of what is being told and you've been
Starting point is 00:12:14 living with this for 20 years well I think in that the producers of the Hulu series actually did reach out to Pamela and they did want her to be involved and they said like you know we love Pamela we're going to do it in the most supportive way but Pamela's response to that was that like no I don't want anything to do with it so how can you even conscionably say that you want to do it in the most loving and supportive way but when the person who is the prime character in the series says that they do not condone it nor give consent to it and that once again you're profiting off this crime of this sex tape being stolen and spread out to media. I just don't see how you can say that you've got Pamela's best interests at heart. She obviously doesn't believe the real
Starting point is 00:12:50 story was told because she's come out with a handwritten statement that says, not a victim, but a survivor and alive to tell the real story. So the fact that she's actually come out with a statement herself, but said the real story means that she doesn't believe the story that's been told is truthful and she wants to take control of that. So she has teamed up with Netflix to tell her side and to take some control back around the narrative of the way she's been portrayed the thing that boggles me the most is that how can you put a docu-series out that not only doesn't include the people it's about but doesn't have their consent to me I'm like how are we doing this and also like there's so many layers to this which make it just like so
Starting point is 00:13:31 fucking upsetting but it's also framed as a biography so it's a biography of somebody who doesn't want the story written. And now the story, the reason why this is such an interesting conversation is because this whole sex tape that was uncovered in 1999, at the time, I think that the media and also sort of the story that's pertained since that is that maybe Tommy and Pamela made money out of this, but there is such a dark and seedy story about how this sex tape came to life. And the sex tape actually was uncovered as complete criminal activity. So it was stolen from them released to media millions I'm talking like 77 million dollars was made off the back of this sex tape and not a single dollar was ever shown or given to Pamela or Tommy for it
Starting point is 00:14:13 there are reports that they and again it's all like he said she said the reports that they did sue afterwards but it was settled privately it was settled confidentially so no one knows but all they do know is they didn't make direct profit from selling they had nothing to do with that if they made money it was from trying to sue to recomp some of the trauma that they went through and their own personal brand and image like I know I think this is why it's been so convoluted is because Pamela Anderson was held up as a sex icon she'd definitely done like topless photo shoots however having a sex tape stolen from you and then sent to media outlets and it was like readily available it was the first sex tape that you could like download from online you could buy it from
Starting point is 00:14:53 online sources you could get it in video shops none of this was was done with their consent no and we're talking proper stolen we're not talking so I mean it doesn't matter we're not talking stolen like you know logged into your iCloud somebody physically a construction worker that they had hired that was very disgruntled had broken into their house to their safe and taken the tape from the safe and then apparently as you do the construction worker has a side hustle in pornography, which is like in itself a story. He went on to sell the tape and that is how it started. He was a disgruntled employee because apparently Pam and Tom didn't want to pay him. They weren't happy with his work and there was a gun involved. Tommy put a gun to his head and
Starting point is 00:15:33 said, get off my property. There was a lot that went on, but at the end of the day, he broke in, he stole the sex tape and released it. And that is how this all started. So we got to the point now. It's 2022. There's been a series released on her life that she didn't consent to. She never had any control over the images and the tapes that have been going around for the last literally 20 years. The thing I love the most about this now is that Pamela has come out, like it should never have happened, but she's come out and said, well, you know, fuck you, you've done it. So I'm going to do it in return. So she's teamed up with Netflix and she's releasing her own story that she has complete control over that she has her son Brandon producing so he's very involved in it
Starting point is 00:16:14 it's going to be a full access to her her thoughts she's even sharing some of her journals so this is going to be a very very honest raw look at her life and it sucks that she's had to do this because we're talking this is 20 years she's been through enough and when you go and have a look at the things she said in the past she's like I didn't want to be in court anymore I didn't want to be finding this anymore. I was pregnant. I didn't want to talk about my vagina anymore. I didn't want to talk about sex. I didn't want the world looking at me in humiliation. And I just hate to think that these women are going through this at all, but let alone 20 years so publicly and then have to go and make their whole entire docu-series just to fight back at a docu-series that someone
Starting point is 00:16:52 else created that she didn't even consent to. Well, I think the big issue here is like Pamela was a victim in the beginning and now she's a victim of this creation of a biography. Like, you know she was completely taken advantage of in that situation in the sex tape being released and so was tommy to some extent but this is the real clincher as to how the media treats women and especially the media that had a 1999 lens over it one of the quotes that came out was while the video turned lee into a rock and roll hero of sorts a big dick swinging rep scallion in the public's eye anderson became something of a punch line she had no sex positive bloggers at the time and no pro plastic surgery tweeters around to defend her. She was just completely cast out to
Starting point is 00:17:34 the wolves and really like she was monumentally slut shamed and was like the first wave of that, but with no protection. But it's not even new. That's the same. That's just, this is what women have always faced. And it's like recently Laura and I, we've been talking a lot and deep diving a lot into Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. And it's just an insane story. It's exactly the same thing in the sense of there was an affair and if you guys don't know it I'm just going to lightly there was an affair very public affair but he came out as a bit of a legend like some people gave him a hard time but there weren't any real repercussions everyone was like oh isn't that crazy he did this but for Monica she spent the rest of her life with public humiliation being
Starting point is 00:18:15 called a slut being called a tart it ruined her as a woman the same way that this has followed Pamela for 20 years when they did exactly the same thing like same situation the man and the woman. It takes two to tango. It's always the woman thrown under the bus. And I just love that finally Pamela is taking some control back. One of the things I think is so important to this story and so interesting is like looking at it from the 1999 perspective in media, but then looking at it from today, a post Me Too movement, post 2022 viewpoint and how society sees things. At the time when the video was uncovered and it was being downloaded, like I mean being downloaded by hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people in a very, very short period
Starting point is 00:18:55 a time, Tommy Lee and Pamela Anderson went to the courts and they were trying to limit the distribution of this video. They were trying to limit access to it, not only access to it, but they weren't making any money off something that had been criminally stolen from them. And then other people were profiting off it. They tried to limit Penthouse from being able to continue to publish the photos. And the Penthouse lawyer at the time argued that the couple had forfeited their privacy rights regarding the video's content because they had discussed their sex life in past interviews and had both posed naked in other sources and since penthouse was not directly involved in the theft and it had received the tape from a source they were not
Starting point is 00:19:35 liable also on top of that the footage was fair game because it included a scene of anderson rolling a joint and she had told star the previous year that she didn't do drugs the tape itself was legally considered newsworthy insane because right now if you did that right now you'd go to jail revenge porn or releasing of anyone's images or videotapes is illegal you're fine you can go to jail back then it's like oh you were nude once you can be nude again you were asking for it it's that whole mentality and the thing that I feel so like it makes me so upset and so sorry for her is that like going through this in 1999 she had no protection you know and then the public opinion of her shifted so hugely and so many people looked at her as though she was just you know sex mad or
Starting point is 00:20:15 that she had kind of lost the plot a little bit like she really her whole entire reputation was tarnished forever off the back of this when Tommy Lee was held up as being like a big swinging dick someone else that happened to that I think this is just a good time is remember when Jennifer Lawrence so Jennifer Lawrence famous actress she was hacked her iCloud was hacked and nude photos that she had taken obviously just for her relationship to send to her partner were released online obviously without her consent and she came out and said something that really stuck with me and I sort of mentioned it a bit earlier but it's if you read the news and it says Jennifer Lawrence's nude photos released and you go and look and search out and Google those photos, you are
Starting point is 00:20:54 contributing. So I think it's really important. And I guess this is why I want to try and avoid watching this Hulu documentary, Pam and Tommy, because after listening to her saying like, it's fucking fabricated, it's not my side of the story. No one consulted me. And when I said, please don't do it, they ignore me. I just feel like it's also contributing as much as I would love to watch it. If it was not a real story and not a docu-series and was all fictional, probably be a great story probably be well done probably well cast but it's not it's completely taking advantage of someone and I just don't like that well it also I think it just adds to the continuation of her being a victim she had no control over the sex tape being released she's
Starting point is 00:21:32 had no control over the narrative until now and now another big producer of like you know who's wanting to document and share her life story she has no control over the narrative and essentially is making no money off the back of it she is a victim and everybody else is gaining an income they are creating huge amounts of wealth off the back of her incredibly awful story what i will contribute to is the downloads of the netflix documentary which is coming out on netflix but anyway guys let's get into before we speak to mitch one of our favorite parts of every episode and that is accidentally unfiltered slash confessional i have a good one today and now firstly before I say this this is not kink shaming at all I would like to preface this I'd like to
Starting point is 00:22:15 say that I am not kink shaming I just think that this is an interesting thing that went down and you know what so did the person who wrote this in which is why they've written it into I mean we did a whole ep on kinks so we're definitely not kink shaming all right okay I was 17 and I had just started having sex with my first boyfriend okay no wait I'm gonna I'm gonna preface this as well. I also think that like, maybe if you're going to do something really fucking like just out there in the bedroom, you would normally have a conversation beforehand. So that's why I'm a bit like, wow. I don't know what this is, but sometimes you're just in the mood and you're in the moment, you know? Do you not just be like, Hey, like I've got, I'm into this kinky stuff. And like,
Starting point is 00:22:51 I wanted to try it with you. No, sometimes it just happens, but tell me what it is. And I'll be able to, I'll be able to answer this. I was 17 and I just started having sex with my first ever boyfriend. Of course, being my first relationship, I had absolutely no experience with sex whatsoever one day while we were having some spicy time he asked me to lean over the edge of the bed with my head facing down so that my legs were up in the air i was thinking oh okay new position this is gonna be interesting meanwhile while i'm ass overhead he asked me to try and suck in the air from my vagina at this point i was a little bit like what yeah literally that's she's like i was a bit anyway i was thinking that this was getting a little bit weird
Starting point is 00:23:30 but he was more experienced than me so I went with it he then continued to say suck in as much air as you can so here I am trying to suck the air into my vagina so it's full of air and then he says just relax suck in as much air as you can and then push it out I then let out a massive queef to which he proceeded to suck out of my vagina I got a little bit embarrassed and literally fell off the bed and then tried to laugh it off he said no come back here i want to suck all all of your queefs out i love it so much i was mortified to admit that this became a regular occurrence in our sex however looking back on it i now understand it wasn't for me and i'm lucky for me we are no longer together how okay i have heard of some kinky stuff i have never heard of someone that
Starting point is 00:24:22 wants to suck your fanny farts out but my first thing here is what 17 year olds are you because we're 17 if i did anything other than missionary i don't even know if i i think i'd only just started having sex i was very very boring very mundane very plain maybe he wasn't 17 but it may okay what if he was think about the kinky stuff he'd be into now you can only imagine the evolution living their best life all right wait what is the kinkiest thing someone's asked you to do in the bedroom nothing people don't ask me anything kinky yeah neither actually that's why i'm saying these this is why these are so great i mean we all know about my boyfriend who had sex with the back of my leg yeah i mean i feel like there's the same thing this went on to like him sucking the farts
Starting point is 00:25:01 your guy loved to sex your leg so you're even he wanted to have sex with all of me still one of my favorite stories i'm sorry but i will never forget that if you're new to the story laura tried to quickly tell us this story and she literally brushed over it she was like oh yeah one time my ex-boyfriend like he used to like to have sex with the back of my leg anyway moving on and I was like whoa whoa stop the press what and he used to love to get into that little fatty bit that when you crease your leg like yes so for anyone who's new to the podcast so that you know I dated a guy who used to have sex with the bit behind my knee he would make me crease my knee so he could have sex with that and then he'd also he would also have sex with the crease behind my elbow as well
Starting point is 00:25:42 because he, quote, unquote, wanted to have sex with all of me. Oh, God, you never told me about the elbow until now. I knew there was more. He would have sex with the side of my neck. Like, he would have literally anywhere that created fiction. He would fuck under my arm. Anywhere. Oh, God, no.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Like, if I put my neck. He's like, if you can put your chin forward and I can sex the double chin. Yes. Oh, my, I can't. Deceased. I've dated him for a long time. Of course she did. All right, I'm going to read my confessional.
Starting point is 00:26:17 When I was at university, I lived in a share house of about eight people. I got along really well with all of them except for one. She was always so nasty, so rude, and so awful to live with. She also always ate my food. Worst. Oh, when you're in a share house too. Worst. Because you're like, someone in here has eaten it.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Same with like in a communal kitchen at work. Do you know what's even worse than someone eating the whole thing? When you know someone's just taken a few spoonfuls. just like one bite you're like fuck you i just fucking eat it yeah you've taken a few bits of my pasta and i know i know so a household rule was to not leave your personal shower items in the communal bathroom because eight people's stuff just couldn't all stay in there there wasn't enough room but she never ever followed that rule so the bathroom was always super cluttered just because of her after about eight months of living with her with only one month to go of the
Starting point is 00:27:05 university year i decided that i had had enough of how rude and hurtful she was now she had very very dyed platinum blonde hair so she had all this beautiful purple hair shampoo and conditioner bottles which of course she kept all throughout the bathroom so i decided to put some purple food coloring in all of them she proceeded to have bright purple hair until she could afford her next hair appointment treatment in five weeks time she never fucking understood why lol caner i think this is so funny i think it's not that bad like it's okay i think it's great because i'm like it's one of those things this is better to me than last week's confessional where somebody put the prawns and like in the oh oh no we have received so many messages from you guys you
Starting point is 00:27:50 guys have done you are well as brit would say uncooked some uncooked one woman wrote in to tell us that there was a hole in the wall of her old house that she shared with her ex and she stuffed uncooked chicken breasts she just dropped them down the hole of the wall so that the chicken breasts were between so like the the plaster and that i'm no stop it stop it now but would you if you had blonde hair and then all of a sudden your hair was purple i would definitely stop using that shampoo and conditioner you would know well the whole idea of the purple shampoo and conditioner is that it keeps your hair blonde it doesn't make it purple it's called purple shampoo but it keeps it blonde if you leave it in for too long it definitely makes your hair purple does it yeah
Starting point is 00:28:30 I wouldn't know. I mean, I went blonde once, but that was bizarre. So I didn't use blonde shampoo. Anyway, that is our confessional on Accidentally Unfiltered. Please, if you do have a confessional on Accidentally Unfiltered or any other story you want to share with us, make sure you slide on into the DMs, Life Uncut Podcast on Instagram. Also Ask Uncuts, put all your Ask Uncuts in there too. Anything you want us to have a look at, throw them in the DMs. Now let's get into the chat with Mitch. Okay, Lifers, today we have a very special guest. He has become part of our little community. You may or may not, and I'm hoping you have, because if you haven't, it means you haven't been listening to the radio show. You may have heard of a lovely gentleman named
Starting point is 00:29:14 Mitch Turi. Mitch Turi is our co-host on Life Uncut Radio Show. Mitch is a radio host in his own right he's a tv host he has hosted multiple red carpets like the aries and alongies but most of all similarly to me you're a trained actor also similarly to what we actually do that makes us all money is that we're all podcast hosts let's focus on that mitch tree you're a man of multiple trades welcome to life on card yeah it's great to be here thank you girls i like okay if anyone who doesn't know your voice which obviously as brit said means that you haven't been listening to our Saturday show. Every single Saturday morning we get to sit down,
Starting point is 00:29:51 we do a show on the Kiss Network. And, Mitch, you're familiar with this segment, but I'm going to bring it here and you're going to share your one, an accidentally unfiltered story, your most embarrassing story that you thought you'd take to the grave, that you didn't want anyone to know. We want everyone to know. For some reason I feel like you're going to have a plethora
Starting point is 00:30:09 of accidentally unfiltered stories. I have so many, and I called my mum too on the way in the car because it was such a drive from Glebe to Bondi, very local, I know. Bondi, everyone's so handsome on the roads. I was attracted. Does it get gradually more handsome? Like, as you kind of go from Glebe into Bondi, you're just like, there's a transition of attractiveness.
Starting point is 00:30:24 You go through the tunnel and then you come out and then there's hot people. There's Mercedes. It's the same. Now that we've moved to Bronte, it's the same, but it's a transition to people with children. It's like you leave Bondi and you just transition into Bugaboos. But that's you.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Activewear is real. Everyone's in activewear. Everyone's in gym shorts. I got out of activewear today just for you, but I went out to greet Mitch. He didn't know where he was going. I was like, look, I'll come and meet you in the street. And I caught him already making friends,
Starting point is 00:30:46 talking to the local lady. She's about 70, but she's our local, like, community gardener. He's in the street. She's got a herb garden and heirloom tomatoes. They look actually a bit rotten, to be honest. I thought you were going to say you caught him putting on active wear to walk in. Imagine. No, I don't own it.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I don't own it. Okay, accidentally unfiltered. I do want to say it's great to be here. It's great to be on the show, and we will beat Joe Rogan. I just want to say that. This week we'll beat Joe Rogan. Yes. Can I just jump in?
Starting point is 00:31:08 Yes. Okay, so this is a story. I thought I'd tie it in because obviously we had Mardi Gras last weekend, and it's a beautiful celebration of queer life, And I, of course, am a gay man. Shock, horror. All the ladies listening were like, shit, thought I could get him. You do have a sexy voice.
Starting point is 00:31:22 But I have accidentally hooked up with the same woman as my sister. Wait, wait, wait. You need more. You just got to the punchline too quick. I think you were going to give us more. Yeah, I've got more. No, I've got more. I've got more.
Starting point is 00:31:33 But I wanted to lead with that because it would have been drawn out. You would have gone, what's going on? We hooked up with the same woman on the same night in the same hour. This was when I was 19 and I wasn't out. I actually didn't even know I was gay at this point. So my sister and I, my sister Becky, who I love, she's two years older than me. left high school i'm from the shire which is like a you know very small tight-knit group in sydney they all go to fiji it's like what they do and they go to plantation island it's like four grand
Starting point is 00:31:54 and it's stupid they all fuck each other silly and then they get drunk essentially yeah you get sent home a couple weeks in uh osha's there it's really where there's cameras and um i didn't want to do that because that's not my vibe like i said i didn't quite know where i was with my sexuality and i'm like i can i'm so rational even at 18 i'm like i could put this money and i could travel the states so my sister and i used the money and we traveled america together so we drove from new orleans to la like straight through the bible belt which in retrospect i'm not welcome there now it was an unusual choice whoa it was it was a big choice but we loved it anyway we were at a bar in memphis one night and i was 18 she was 20 so both underage so i had a fake id she had a fake
Starting point is 00:32:34 id and we were at this bar it was the middle of winter it was like minus 20 degrees it was like two nights before christmas and we had ugly christmas sweaters on and we had like nutmeg and hot cocoa and it was really American. It was great. And then we were at this bar called Moe's Diner in Memphis and we progressively got more and more drunk. We're drinking, drinking, drinking, and there was this woman in the club who was also Aussie.
Starting point is 00:32:54 She was 40. I was 18 at the time. We locked eyes. And, you know, I mean, look at our dynamic. You know, we have an age gap, but we're the best of friends. We love each other. I mean, we're not 40 and you're not 18. No, but I'm trying to.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And we're not making out. No, I mean, I'm just saying. I know. You can be friends. Yeah, you can have a connection. I'm very friendly and I connect really quickly with people. Yes. our line of work i mean you've got to do it i think that's how we get into our line of work
Starting point is 00:33:15 because we can do that anyway we connected both chemistry wise and then lips wise so i'm like i'll try it so i hooked up with this beautiful busty woman she was so hot red hair like she was the quintessential hot woman and we hooked up and it was really fun and i think my profile picture on facebook for a time was even me like holding on to her breasts like we were like embracing well i had friends back home that like would always question me on it so i'm like if i put this up this will really put the nail in that coffin i'll just grab her boob in a christmas sweater in tennessee wow anyway so then we hook up and i'm like i don't know if that's for me and then my sister is so blind drunk she's behind the bar serving drinks like in this small town bar
Starting point is 00:33:51 like just serving drinks to the people it was low-key and then i go off in the corner i start playing pool and then i turn around and i see my sister on top of this woman on the the bar runner where you serve drinks wow also hooking up like coyote ugly had she seen that you had hooked up like did she know that she was the sloppy seconds to her brother no but it was like in that heightened moment when you're drinking that i looked at her and i was like i hooked up with her and she's like oh my god and it was a weird connection we were excited and then we realized that we'd done it and then we like immediately retracted the excitement and were disgusted and didn't talk to each other for the rest of the night but now like she had a wedding last week and i it was in
Starting point is 00:34:26 my speech and it's a point of of laughs in the family we all talk about it i mean we did see some other things that went on that wedding a massive dildo that was given as a family there was also beautiful speeches from the grandparents but there was also a 10 inch dildo I don't know what my favorite part of that story is. I actually think it's the fact that you didn't know you were out, but you went out clubbing in America, in Tennessee, in a sweater, in a Christmas sweater, a nutmeg. I know.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Okay, cute. You were out. All right, let's jump into a bit more about you, who you are. We know everything about you, but nobody else does yet. So tell us about the host, but they will intend. Nobody on earth knows who you are. No, I take that back. A lot of people know who you are,
Starting point is 00:35:02 but we haven't introduced you properly to our listeners. Yes, yeah, yeah. Tell us about the shows you host and your podcast. Let's start there. Well, I guess if you're in Sydney, you'd be most likely to know my voice because I've been on radio at KISS, KISS 1065 for seven years now, like for a long time. But I've been on in Sydney and Melbourne. I do a night show called The Night Show with Mitch Turi every weeknight from seven. That's only been this year, 2022, but I've done nights for like the last three years.
Starting point is 00:35:26 So, yeah, I don't know. I've been in radio for seven years. I started there as like a kid when I was 19. And that has been like my one job. I came back from the, from the incest trip and I went straight into, I'm sorry, I had to say straight into radio and it's been, I've been there ever since. Like that's been my one job out of school. Talk to me a little bit about like getting into radio.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Cause it's a very specific industry. It's also a very cutthroat industry. It's very hard industry. It's so hard. And I think that like, you've kind of been in it through the very traditional wave of radio. There's been a lot of changes with podcasting coming out and what has your career path been like throughout your time in radio?
Starting point is 00:36:01 It's been weird. it's funny because I went in knowing exactly what I wanted like I so I studied theatre that's the that's the tie in Brit to the top and I'd moved to America this is after the trip with my sister and I lived in New York for a year so I studied acting at the Atlantic Theatre Company because I thought I'd done acting my whole life my whole like as a kid like young theatre group and I was like I want to commit to this I want to do it I have extremely supportive parents and I'm so lucky that I have great parents that were able to support me financially and they sent me over and then I came back for a like maybe a three-month break in my degree to save up to go back and do
Starting point is 00:36:32 the second half of my theatre degree and I got a job on the street team in radio which like you said Laura is so traditional which is like Kyle Sanderlands has started on the street team Tommy Little, Joel Creasy they've all started on the street team which it's like you're in isn't it yeah and can you explain for people who don't know radio like what is the street team the street team Cash Cow I was the Cash Cow's cousin Cash Cow's nemesis and I'll get there don't worry street team is promotional work so all radio stations you know they're the sand of the city so they've got promo vehicles they drive around they give out icy cold cans of coke and they promote the radio station and it is a great entryway to that career because you're in the
Starting point is 00:37:06 building oftentimes you're doing promotions for the big shows like kyle and jackie o and the afternoon shows which is what i did so i got straight in i did that and within the first three weeks of working there uh this is when snapchat was really big remember the snapchat days i never got on it but yes i remember snapchat was huge like they did stories before instagram did stories if you can believe a time like that existed for me it feels like snapchat was so much longer ago but it really wasn't that long ago i know heaps of friends on snapchat i'm like what are you still using what are you doing for me snapchat's like if you want to cheat yeah i feel like that's how it used to be right yeah yeah or ads now it's full of ads like i ordered a teeth
Starting point is 00:37:42 whitening toothbrush on snapchat the other day because i got serviced an ad and it's high smile or something but it worked it's coming in the mail so you know how it goes this episode is not brought to you by high smile no it's not but it could be i have context so anyway i was big on snapchat i was doing insta stories being an idiot around the radio station and the boss of the radio station saw someone else watching it and laugh it and you know at a radio station if anyone else is funnier than what's being broadcast like who is it how do i kill them or how do i buy them like they want them yeah exactly so she's like oh it's mitch he's on the street team so immediately brought up for a meeting with the head of kiss three weeks into working there i was 19 and i
Starting point is 00:38:15 I get up to like the pit where Kyle and Jackie O broadcast and all the producers are there, the boss of Kiss is there, and he goes, oh, I hear you think you're pretty funny. And I was like, oh, you know, maybe. I'm also straight. Still hiding under that, guys. And he goes, can you be a rooster for me? And I was like, like a chicken?
Starting point is 00:38:34 And he was like, yeah, be a rooster for me. Just go on, give me your best rooster. In front of everyone on the spot. Yeah, I was like, is this Kyle Sanderlands was in the studio behind him? Can you please give us your best rooster bit? Now you're as bad as them. Show us what you did. Because I'm an actor.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Yeah. I'll do it. So I bent down on my knees. No. I bent down on my knees. I was a lot lighter at the time, so I could get back up and get back. It was much easier. And I bent my little elbows, tucked them behind my chest,
Starting point is 00:39:01 and then I like clucked. In a radio? In the middle of Kiss FM at 19, three weeks into working, and they died. They thought it was the funniest thing they'd ever seen. I was like, ah, look at him. Oh, he's got little giblets. I think I was doing this with my hand, rubbing my hand under my chin. And they were like, hilarious.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Anyway, what's on the show tomorrow? And then they immediately snap back into the next day's show. And then I'm stuck there like half squat, popping like a giblet out of my chin. I'm like, what do I do? One of the girls is like, you can leave just because I like chicken wobbled out. Method acting. You walked out of the shit.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah, I hopped out, picked up some seed off the ground, like my neck's going back and forth. And then the next week I get a call and they're like, oh, you're the cash cock. They loved you. you are doing this segment for kyle and jackie o which is essentially it's like a piss take on the cash cow i dress up as a giant rooster they've got a thousand dollars strapped to me and i run through a park in sydney on live on the air to kyle and jackie o and i get crash tackled to the ground by tradies first to get me gets a thousand bucks wow and that's what you knew you made it
Starting point is 00:40:01 that's what i was like i'm done baby i'm gonna come out and uh my life is all set and then essentially that's coming out as a cop as a giant but that that was really it kyle sandilands loved it of course he would it's like a fat boy being tackled in a chicken suit like that is his dream segment and uh it just went for years and it helped me get in and then I got put on air about six months later and it just went from there I feel like you're the real definition of someone who like could like hustled from the bottom and has worked their way up through the industry and worked their way up with the same station as well yeah now you mentioned a couple of times and it's it's the theme of the episode so far but also we wanted to talk about it because last week was
Starting point is 00:40:37 Mardi Gras yeah when you said you started at KISS you were like I was very much a straight man and then obviously in that time you have come out in your sexuality you're very open about talking about well open about it with us and open about it in general but maybe not something that you really are like hey everybody I am gay when you're at work in radio yeah was there a reason at radio that you like I mean that you kind of kept it a bit more of a secret or that you didn't really feel comfortable sharing it in a work capacity before you were ready to share it in your private life there's a lot there a lot to unpack but i mean first of all i'm definitely out and very open with my friends you guys are very close friends with my family uh but the show that i
Starting point is 00:41:13 do at night is like it's a late night show it's an entertainment show so i'm not gonna back announce little nas x and just be like oh i'd love to fuck me in the ass which i i would but i wouldn't say because it doesn't fit the show you know but if it's a personality if i'm gonna go into it like on our show on the weekend we i was talking about sex toys or vr goggles and having sex so it leans itself more to talking about it so my show at night doesn't really but it took me a while to get there I wasn't out to my family I wasn't even out to myself it took me a really really long time and I think it's because I'm from the Shire a really close-knit community it's very Anglo-Saxon in the southern suburbs of Sydney there was a TV show about it the Shire like it's
Starting point is 00:41:52 a real community and it's it's also where the riots were like the race riots back in the 2000 which kind of like leans itself into showing like not that it is that today by any means but it leans itself into showing that it is a very anglo-saxon community yeah and i mean to that point i mean my mum when i came out they were fine with me being gay but they didn't know any gay people they didn't have a reference point to what i was going to be how old were you when you had the realization and what was it was there a defining moment that you can remember where you were like shit i'm not straight like I thought I was yeah I was nine I remember being nine nine or ten and it hit me lying in bed one night like it actually hit me that I'm like oh I am attracted to men and then
Starting point is 00:42:32 I spiraled and I remember getting out of bed going into the kitchen mum was doing the dishes and you know when something happens you yeah I don't know you break something or you get hurt or someone says something to you or something's on your mind and you go and tell your mum when you're a kid yeah what do I do how do I rationalize this but I couldn't because it was gay you know and I had been conditioned the way I was conditioned growing up. So I suppressed it really hard. When I say that I didn't think about it until my 20s, I'm being 100% honest.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I just didn't cross my mind. So this is really interesting to me. So at nine years old, because when I think about being nine years old, I don't know if I knew at nine quite what gay was or if it was something that wasn't accepted at that time. I didn't know a lot about it. So it's interesting for you at nine to have a realisation that you were attracted to boys but then say,
Starting point is 00:43:17 I can never let anyone know because this isn't right. To the point that you went out to your mum and you didn't even feel like you could tell your mum. So is that how you felt? Did you think you didn't want to tell her because she would judge you or she wouldn't understand? Or was there this air in the community or your family that that was wrong? What was your thinking?
Starting point is 00:43:33 Well, I mean, this was 15 years ago now. I mean, what, almost 20 years ago. Like it was a different time. Completely different time. And the way I think everyone is conditioned, society conditions us to have, you know, masculine, feminine, straight and gay. Like they're the two binary.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I mean, it's definitely not the way that's not how the world works, but that's what I thought. And it strikes you with fear. Like I was terrified of it at nine years old. I think as well, even for a child, even if a child doesn't have the full concept about what being gay is, they do know, especially in that time that it was othering. They know that it's not what their parents do. They know it's not what all the other people in their friends and family that they have, you know, a clear vision for what is a relationship. They think, well, that's not how I feel. So I feel very othered. Yeah, no one in my family is with a man.
Starting point is 00:44:17 No other man in my family are with men. No other women are with women. And the funny thing was, I have two gay uncles. I actually do. I actually had that reference point. And they at the time were gay and out and living together and very happy. You had that as a role model? No, not as a role model, but they were in the family.
Starting point is 00:44:33 But my parents were fine with it. But then again, you'd see Modern Family and you'd see Cam and Mitch. Stupid reference, I know, but it was big at the time. And my parents had kind of cringed when they'd see them kissing. Or they'd go, oh, I don't want to see that. That was pretty much the first really out there show that really heavily featured a gay couple. And normalised it too.
Starting point is 00:44:50 And normalised it. So I think that for a lot of people that hadn't been around that or hadn't seen it, that could be quite confronting. And I know that seems crazy to say, but we do have to take ourselves back 20 years now. Like we are putting ourselves back in a different time. 20 years doesn't seem that long ago, but a lot has changed in the world in 20 years.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Oh, exactly. But this experience like still happens today. And even as little as five years ago, I came out at 23 and I'm 26 now. I only came out three years ago. What was that experience like? When you say you spoke to your mum about it and you did come out, like what was it like kind of going, okay, well, you've recognised that in yourself.
Starting point is 00:45:23 You're like, I'm very comfortable with and I know what I want. But how did you approach that conversation with your family, with your friends? It was, no. You just went back there. I did, I did. It's hard, I can only imagine. No, it was, and, you know, there's a lot going on in the world
Starting point is 00:45:38 and people go through far worse things than what I've been through. But it was the worst part of my life. it was really bad really grim because i'd suppressed it for so long and i and i thought i'd be okay for some reason i thought i like these are the thoughts you have right when you're 19 when you're 20 i'll just never have sex i'll come out as gay but i'll tell them i'll never have sex and to them that's okay because i have made the idea of gay sex disgusting which it's not but that's what i thought i thought if i just remove that one part from my sexuality my parents will be okay with it or anyone will be okay with it which is ridiculous to say out loud or i even
Starting point is 00:46:10 thought maybe I'll never come out and I'll get I'll get a wife I'll just get a younger woman who's maybe but like that's what I thought I'm like I'll get someone who's fine or like a person who just wants to be a housewife because that'll be an easy way for me to live like you wanted some company and someone in your life to be with but yeah but to mask it exactly it's an awful thought to have but yeah this is the way like you know when you're on a plane you think it's going to crash and you go through all the scenarios I was like playing out all these options that I could live and then it just got to the point where I had got on radio and people were asking and you know a following was growing and I had to come to terms with it publicly and myself and you know
Starting point is 00:46:45 there wasn't a press conference at my front door but I I was 20 21 22 23 like people didn't give a shit but I needed to come to terms with it and it was odd because I'm now with my boyfriend Hayden it's all it's been three years but I almost needed that push like I needed that's how I operate like I need the push I'm a procrastinator and I honestly I literally procrastinated my own coming out i just put it off it's so funny because before we started recording this we were having a joke and you said like you're like i'm not a minority anymore like as a gay white man and i'm sure that there are aspects to it but you were like there are so many of us like it's such a accepted community now that it's interesting that only three years ago you were so frightened to acknowledge
Starting point is 00:47:26 or to like fully realize that you were part of that community oh god yeah and now you're there yeah so so a lot has changed now he's like come to me like a pie pie pie he's like i am i give so much coming out advice it's so ridiculous that i but you're right but i mean you go to nigeria and i'd still be beheaded right so we live here and i'm i'm so lucky and i'm so blessed and i'm in the media and that in itself is a position of privilege but it's an interesting discussion because yeah like i'm i've got no social currency anymore like five years ago being gay was like your ticket you know like it was you had to give me the job they had a past well they need diversity right and it's it's awful but it's true but now nothing like i'm basically you know i'm joe rogan
Starting point is 00:48:04 You're the same as the next guy. I am. I really am. But I think, of course it's great because let's give roles to people of colour, to people that identify as non-binary and sexually fluid. You know, I don't need the job. It's funny, something that you just said, I don't even know if you know you said it, but I clocked it.
Starting point is 00:48:21 You just said, I give so much coming out advice to people. It's ridiculous, I know. And then you rolled your eyes. That is not ridiculous because you have to think now it's so normal to you and it's easy because you're open and it's accepting, you have to remember what that was like, like you just said, to come out. All these people that are facing that right now,
Starting point is 00:48:40 that are in this moment right now, because there would be so many people listening thinking, I don't know who I am. I want to tell people and I don't know how. And they go to people like you for advice. So don't diminish that. Don't be like, oh, it's so ridiculous I give advice. Who am I?
Starting point is 00:48:52 Because if you change one person's life, you know you're doing something right. I know. And I still get messages from like 17, 18-year-olds, younger, messaging me. I do another podcast. Is it just me? have a listen it's on the iHeartRadio network part of the family and I get messages all the
Starting point is 00:49:06 time because I'm out and open and my co-host there is also gay and very open and you just forget like you forget that there are people like me three years ago and I know it's it's like I said it sounds stupid but then I have people that I look at and inspire me and I'm like god I wish I was at that level in my sexuality in my queerness I haven't even dabbled with the idea of gender I definitely identify as male but three years ago I was scared to come out as gay let alone talk about my gender identity you know but things move so quickly I think it's interesting we touch on the fact that like so much has changed so quickly and Mardi Gras started back in 1978 but it has evolved the community has evolved it is a fucking huge celebration in Sydney now yeah what does
Starting point is 00:49:46 Mardi Gras mean to you as somebody who's from the community who is able to embrace and celebrate like how is that special to you it's sort of become like a celebration for me and my boyfriend for Hayden like we really love going and celebrating together because you can just be fully yourself you can be 100% queer and there's no judgment like it's a safe space because you go out you go to a dinner we went to Five Guys which is out in Penrith a couple weeks ago and we still were like oh we shouldn't hold hands you know we shouldn't oh we shouldn't kiss waiting to get our burger like those thoughts still cross your mind like daily day to day so you go to a place like Mardi Gras and then you can just sort of completely remove all those thoughts from your
Starting point is 00:50:24 brain. But I mean, it's interesting when you say that, because I know when we joked earlier and you said, you know, I'm not a minority anymore. Like a heterosexual couple never has to think that a heterosexual couple never ever has to think, oh, I probably shouldn't hold your hand here. I know there's some people who are adverse to public displays of affection, but it's not because of fear of judgment. It's because of their own internal awkwardness, you know, where it's like, if that's the only reason why there's times where you go, oh, I probably shouldn't show displays of affection because you're worried about the way other people think, then we're certainly not there yet that's for sure I know in many ways yeah and I you know I was joking before but like I
Starting point is 00:50:58 said the social currency around being gay I like I'm in the media we're in the media we are in we live in Bondi we live in the inner city I'm in the inner west like it is so different compared to 10 kilometers out you know you go into rural communities you if you're a chippy if you're a tradie and you're gay like imagine that lifestyle so different working with straight heterosexual white men that the community is so different all my colleagues at work are gay like I am in a very blessed situation but it's we are still we still live in a time where yeah hayden and i scared to hold hands or scared to kiss or pose in a photo that looks too sexual we're at opera bar the other night i'm like oh maybe we should just stand next to each other like those thoughts come into our
Starting point is 00:51:34 our mind and that is why mardi gras is so important because the more exposure people have and people like people from the west they watch this on sbs and they go oh look at them oh they look cute they look beautiful they're having fun they're hurting nobody it sounds ridiculous but the more they're exposed to it the more they're not going to care and they're going to be desensitized to it all no we have a community member bella stokes bella we did a podcast episode with her not long ago and she was originally david she lived in a small town she came out as gay and then a year or so later identified as a trans woman yeah she came on the podcast and spoke about what that was like and this was really recently this was only a few
Starting point is 00:52:11 within the last couple of years and she had to come out in our facebook discussion group because there was no one else in her town or family that she could relate to or connect to and that really struck home to me I thought how now in the last two years are you still needing to go to like an online platform because that's the only place you feel comfortable and safe even with her family she's like they didn't want me to be gay they didn't want it out and I just thought that we just still as much as we can say like we did earlier that you know it's you can be free now everyone can be themselves you really can't we still have so so far to go and I think that's why these episodes and Mardi Gras are so important. I used to be terrified of going to Mardi Gras. I
Starting point is 00:52:50 was so scared because that was like an admission of being gay. It was like, well, if I'm there, of course I'm gay, which is so ridiculous. But my first Mardi Gras was only when I came out three years ago. Actually, I went to one before when I was still in the closet and I think everyone around me knew. Why is that funny? Because when you say in the closet, it's just such a graphic and it's such a silly, like, I would love to know where that originated from. Maybe we should do our research, but like calling somebody in the actual closet. No, I think I, I think I've Googled this when I was in my spiral of am I gay what does it mean I was trying to get everything I think because you used to cram people in the closet like if you had guests over and you had a queer
Starting point is 00:53:21 member of the family you'd hide them in the closet so they didn't embarrass the family like they didn't embarrass everyone I think potentially that could be an option I think I've read that before but yes I was terrified of going to Mardi Gras and I went one year in the closet and they embraced me like completely and you asked this Brit I think before and I didn't answer it but what was sort of the inciting incident that made me realize that I have to come out it was a I went to my first Mardi Gras and I was broadcasting live from the kiss float and I felt so welcomed and so at home so not judged in an ounce and I was in like a silver latex like vest and short shorts it was ridiculous and then we had the same-sex plebiscite the same-sex marriage vote
Starting point is 00:53:58 and they were the two inciting incidents that that made me came out but in both instances at my first Mardi Gras which was a beautiful experience for me and the same-sex marriage the plebiscite decision day which was at victoria park in sydney daunting because they were they literally had this gigantic lcd screen that they were about to broadcast whether or not same-sex couples had the right which you look back you think that's that's like something out of you know the hunger games that they were about to broadcast the rights to australian citizens my arms yeah it's so hard to believe the fact that we were put through that is it's horrific but it's also so i mean i remember where i was when the plebiscite happened at the time i was
Starting point is 00:54:36 living with two of my closest friends they are a married lesbian couple yeah and they are married now but obviously they weren't married then and when the vote came out they were both sitting on the couch and both just burst out crying because it's and it's like i mean it was already i was already so aware of it but the idea that we had the right to vote against somebody else who's the minority yeah just screams like we are so far from being there and that only happened what was it five years ago yeah 20 2017 2018 six years ago six yeah it's wild to think that like so much has changed in such a little period of time but in that time you also met your partner Hayden yeah you're now in a relationship talk to me a little bit about how you guys met how you guys got into
Starting point is 00:55:16 relationship and how your life has changed over the past three years oh my god first of all like we have we live such like it's like a heterosexual relationship oh my god we got we need to come out and do more like we are living like a heterosexual couple it's ridiculous we live together we have like our little roles in the house like i work nights he works days so we're very much like ships so we never have to see each other never have to see each other sex on the weekends lauren maddie jay um once a fortnight we love each other i'm very lucky i really am blessed but i wasn't out we need to do a little counter do a tick sound effect every time i mention being in the closet have a shot every time you said i wasn't out yeah so i wasn't out and i had been
Starting point is 00:55:55 talking to him online like i said i'm a procrastinator and i need to be pushed to get things done so i followed hayden i followed a whole lot of really cute guys when i was in the closet and i uh i'll abbreviate itc now so save time when i was itc i was messaging boys and i messaged him and we were flirting on and off talking on and off and the very first dm i sent to him was a photo of me as the cash cock and i sent that photo and said i hope you don't mind me sending this unsolicited cock pic brilliant thank you great great line right and he was so drunk and so horny he was like hilarious come fuck me like i'm at sydney union i was like oh sitting next to my mom like i'm talking to a girl you're like hashtag itc itc i went turn the volume
Starting point is 00:56:38 on itc terrified and i was like oh my god this is what the community is like but then i like went into it a bit i was flirting a bit and i was trying to like turn him i i remember being like oh well let's get dinner like what if i take you to the opera like you wanted to date him yeah i wanted to wine and dine him and he just wanted me to fuck him like that's not how this works wait so how did you go from what he wanted to be a one-night stand into a full-blown relationship this goes against all the advice we give guys yeah yeah meeting though talk about the first meeting the first minute so so the next day he woke up came to his senses realized that i was a catch and messaged me back and we were flirting it was really quite cute and then we started to
Starting point is 00:57:12 facetime and uh every night we'd facetime and my mum only told me this recently but she got my little sister who's three years younger than me to stand at my door and listen to who i was facetiming mum told me that Rachel ran back to her and said it's a boy's voice he's talking to a boy's voice so do you think your mum and your sister knew before you had told oh they definitely had yeah yeah but my family's very much like what we'll wait for you to tell me so then we were facetiming night after night after night and we hadn't met after about a month and I was driving home from work and it was so random I was driving home from work I had a work dinner in the city I had about 45 minutes to get there about to go under the the Lane Cove Tunnel in Sydney which
Starting point is 00:57:47 is like once you're on the land cove tunnel you're set you're going for 20k you don't get off until china yeah exactly right yeah you're stuck forever so he texts me and goes do you want to come over for a cuddle and i had never i had never done anything really to a big extent with a man sexually and i was like oh my god a cuddle like this is this is code word this is a lot like a cuddle and then i'm like no i've got a work dinner and he's like please like it's been four weeks like we really liked each other the connection was there and i was like where do live like where are you like what's your address sends me his address clicker goes into google maps it is two minutes away he's two minutes from where i am which is like in my mind i love a sign
Starting point is 00:58:26 i love a story i'm like i'm coming babies i'm on my way and then you have the pressure of like okay you're like two minutes but also i've got a hundred meters before i'm stuck on the tunnel yes you've got to make this pressurized decision so i grab the wheel of a volkswagen tiguan i veer off the lane cove tunnel drive over the medium for a cuddle bend my number plates custom by the way and they bend backwards and i'm like that's fine because this is the story like i love that shit i'm so stupid like swerve through traffic like what's going on i'm gonna kiss a man for the first time and um i put bird's bees on but then i realized it's menthol like it's mint i'm like fuck he's gonna know that i put bird's bees i'm like rubbing it off but then you know when
Starting point is 00:59:04 you rub cream off and it's on your arm and then it looks like you sweat i'm like oh this is such a mess like run a stop sign which i didn't have to like i wanted to like i'm like this old lady He was walking with a Cavoodle. I'm like, get out of the way. I mean, it's your meet cute. You have to do it. Exactly. And I didn't have to do any of this.
Starting point is 00:59:18 There was no traffic on the road. I'm like, oh, it's a 40s. I'm going to speed. It was like 6 p.m. at night. Swerving through over speed bumps, get some air. And then he goes, do I have time to brush my teeth? I'm like, if you can, if you can do a speed brush. And then I pull up to his street and I go, I'm out the front.
Starting point is 00:59:31 And he goes, I'm coming out the front. And like, put yourself in my shoes. I'd kissed boys before. That's a whole other story. but this was someone that I was falling for and I'd never met up with a boy I'd never had a real big date with a boy it was huge a big moment for me and we'd been flirting for four weeks and facetiming every night there was a connection the build-up of pressure so I pull up my car's like in pieces and I put the window down and he comes out of his front door and he comes straight
Starting point is 00:59:55 up to the car and then we just kiss straight away don't say anything to each other oh me cute look at this it's a hot kiss you got your dramatic meet cute dramatic what's a meet cute it's like a meet cute is when you have a really special story around how you met you were trying to create a meet cute by frantically driving over traffic that wasn't there i didn't even know it you have a really adorable meet cute is that a life uncut thing meet cute no it's like a worldwide straight thing it's like a plot in movies and stuff they're like what was the meet cute you know like okay well that was my meet cute uh and he kissed me and then uh he pulled away and he was like nice to meet you i was like nice to meet you and then i go i gotta go and then i reverse out
Starting point is 01:00:36 and drive off into the sunset to the sunset like one wheels off the bump is hanging on by the old lady's broken up why for the drama the meet you laura wait was he not just like why yeah and then he went and jerked off you just fully thrown Hayden under the bus here yeah he's fine he'll love it but I had a dinner to go to and I was 20 minutes early to the dinner but in my mind I'm like well I've got to go I've got to go to a work dinner I'm a radio announcer I also really like that you left him wanting more like that's like perfect yeah you played the game very well I think truth be told you were just probably nervous as fuck weren't you you're like I gotta get out of here now oh I tell that story
Starting point is 01:01:14 but you get Hayden on and he laughs at how how nervous I was and he claims I was shaking and I couldn't get my words out. Wait, okay. True, it's real. And then you just fell in love. How did you go from that then to like from like I just think it's so interesting that you went from like literally hardly ever kissing a guy to having a full-blown committed living together relationship
Starting point is 01:01:37 in a relatively short period of time. Yes. Like things progress very quickly. Very quickly. From there we started dating. Our first date was at Blues Point right on the harbour looking over the harbour bridge. It was gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:01:46 It was really nice. this was in like October, November, 2018. And then, uh, in radio, we have a little survey break lines up with school holidays. So you have that two weeks off every eight weeks. So in January, I had a big break off the show and he goes, do you want to go to Melbourne together? And I wasn't out to my parents. I wasn't, I think I told a couple of really close friends because I needed to. And did he at this time know that you weren't out as well? Like, did he know that you were still grappling with that conversation with your family? Yes. But also like we'd been together for two month so it didn't hold the weight to him that it held for me like it was really big for me
Starting point is 01:02:18 but he was very supportive he was very good but i don't think he understood the importance of it in my in at my life in that time anyway so he goes let's go to melbourne let's go on a trip so i go okay so we book flights to melbourne and i lie to my mom and dad and tell them that i'm just going to melbourne on my own and they buy it they eat it up so what i do is i go i'm going away with a boy so i block my mom my sister my dad all my cousins all my aunties every family member on social media because i'm like this is the stupidest idea i've ever had in my life i'm like they won't know i'll put stories up with this boy like we're hanging out and that can be a coming out to my followers but also my family won't know but surely your sister knows has friends that follow you oh yeah
Starting point is 01:02:59 oh yeah just wait this story was never gonna end well what's the opposite of a meet cute what's it called an absolute disaster dumpster fire i'll cut a long story short we go to melbourne we have fun and uh it was actually really a really great trip and it was great for me it was actually a really nice validating moment of being with a boy traveling being together anyway we're there in melbourne we put a photo up and i forgot to block mom's best friend who she of course is having lunch with one day wow so mom's at lunch in cronella with her best friend ann and they're sitting there this gets so much worse she's sitting there and ann's going i mean she's looking like he's having a lovely time down in melbourne and mom went i haven't seen anything
Starting point is 01:03:40 what what's he doing what's it what's he what's he putting up and it was a photo of me at the ngv the art gallery and i put a photo up and mom said oh where is he she went oh he's at the art gallery and mom went oh that's weird i have i can't see that on his story the waiter comes over ladies beautiful young gay man ladies what do we want to order i want to get some shiraz oh who's that is that Hayden Hickson oh my on Anne's phone but it wasn't it was me and she went he went oh that's weird because my friend Hayden's in Melbourne at the moment the waiter he's my friend Hayden's in Melbourne at the moment with oh he's with that boy he's with that guy how do you know him and mum was like hold on how do I know my son how do I know my own son
Starting point is 01:04:17 and the waiter was like yeah that's uh that's that's I think he's Mitch mum's like yeah that's Mitch, he's my son. How do you know him? Oh, he's in Melbourne. He's dating my friend Hayden. Oh, Mitch. The coincidence of that is like fucking cruel. That was supposed to happen.
Starting point is 01:04:34 That was supposed to happen. So then my mum takes a selfie with him and sends it to me and goes, can't wait to meet your new friend Hayden with the waiter. That's great. Yeah, great. And then I show Hayden. Great flex from your mum. Great flex.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Show Hayden. Hayden's like, oh, my God, that's my friend Andrew. And then my life just fell to pieces. that's definitely the best response your mum could have done it's like hey look i know i don't care i'm gonna make a joke about it later i mean that's the thing we haven't unpacked that yet yeah she cared i mean it's it's hard it was that was a really rough period mum and i are like best friends and we are at the moment and we are to this day we love each other but we were best friends i'm the only son and you know it's a relationship that every mum has with a gay son
Starting point is 01:05:12 i just don't think she knew that i was gay you know i think she we had that dynamic of best friends. I went grocery shopping with her. I'd cook dinner with her every night. It was the Italy on for her. I would discuss her problems, her friend issues, her work problems. Like every gay son does with their mom, like it's the dream dynamic. But I just don't think she realized that I was gay. Isn't that interesting that you say that? Because like, I never really thought about somebody who is gay, who has a really deep connection with their mom. I'm sure there's many heterosexual guys who have that as well. I mean, Matt's really close with his mom, but maybe there is sort of like a hallmark special relationship there and a connection
Starting point is 01:05:45 there but it's like you don't get to have that without the fact that you're gay as well you know that that's a part of your identity too and they kind of like feed into each other yeah oh there is I'd love to dive into the science between the relationship of a mother and a gay son maybe there's something in the femininity and the connection that lies there I don't know but yeah I mean all of my gay friends have amazing either amazing relationships with their mom or it's really it's not good you know because they couldn't come to terms with the sexuality and it's tough it was tough for my mom because I think she felt like I was lying to her and she probably doesn't want me to go on the record and say all this and I don't have a bad word to say about my
Starting point is 01:06:19 mom because she had to come to terms with me being gay and it was almost like at the morning the loss of the life that she thought I was going to have yeah genuinely and she even said it to me she thought I was going to marry my childhood my best friend from high school which was never going to happen but that's what she thought and I didn't know that she thought that but she did and she told me after she's like I thought you're going to settle down you're going to marry you know this girl you're going to have kids you're going to stay in the shire and that was going to be your life so had you been with women before you had met Hayden before you had decided you wanted to be with males or had you just never even gone there like was there a process of you trying
Starting point is 01:06:51 to figure it out or because since you were nine years old you're like well I like guys did you ever try it try and convert yourself and I don't want to say convert but I have a lot of people in my life that have openly told me when they were gay they're like I tried not to be I tried to convert myself oh you try everything yeah I was dating women left right and center I didn't like it but i kept trying yeah i was googling like ancient remedies like oh my god a tablespoon of salt and sit in the sun for a month and then look directly into the moon at 12 o'clock on a thursday i'm like i'll do whatever it takes to fix myself because you do you think it's a problem like you think you are there's something wrong with you but i did yeah i've been with women and
Starting point is 01:07:24 i enjoyed it i liked it but i like the intimacy and the connection but it just it just didn't flick the switch you know it doesn't doesn't get me going and i think i had to do that to really realize i have a personal question and it's something we've spoken about off air but i want to know i want everyone to know talk to me about what is a top and what is a bottom i love it you point your fingers in the air she's doing an old school disco dance one hand went up one hand went down like pointing my fingers she pointed at my ass and my dick well a top and a bottom here we go ladies let's do let's do a gay sex school and i'm not the guru in gay sex but a top is someone who traditionally enjoys penetrating so using they're the top they're using their penis to
Starting point is 01:08:03 do the deed and then a bottom is someone who receives so the giver and the receiver essentially is there always a top and a bottom or is it can you kind of like you know go between oh you can go between that's called verse versatile right so a verse is someone who can do both and who enjoys doing both but generally speaking it's and correct me if i'm wrong this is what i've been told in my time it's almost like when you meet someone just say you're on grinder or you're going for a hook up or something it's almost like if you're the bottom you purely going on and your first question is like are you a top because right then like it's like this is what i do what do you do let's not fuck around it's like let's just find the match yeah i'm not saying this is a good thing
Starting point is 01:08:39 i mean the binary the sexuality binary is not a good thing because it's it's a it opens a whole new world into discrimination you know i don't want any bottoms i don't want any tops but then what happens if two tops fall in love or two bottoms that's the problem because people do have a preference right and i think it's fine if it's a preference and you're open about it but if you are ruling out friendships or relationships with people purely based on that one thing i mean that's ridiculous right and I guess that's more based on like a hookup if someone doesn't want to know who you are or they just want to go and have a one-night stand you're going to go on purely looking for the opposite of what you are yeah exactly but that's also the joys of being gay
Starting point is 01:09:11 we don't have to conform to heterosexual ideas of what sex can be and intimacy can be and what relationships can be I mean I've got more friends now than I've ever had that are in polyamorous relationships and it's not for me but Hayden and I've discussed it we've thought about it but it's not for us. Actually, we haven't thought about it. I shouldn't say that, but there's been a discussion there because we have friends who are, but that is the joy of being gay because we get to decide how we run our lives. But when you say you have friends who are in polyamorous relationships, are they members of the LGBTQI community or are they heterosexual people who are polyamorous? Or is it just that you have around you a more sexually explorative friendship
Starting point is 01:09:48 group? Both, but it leans more toward people who identify as queer who are in the LGBTI plus community. Why do you think it is? Because that is, that is a thing. It is way more common to be in polyamorous relationships in the LGBTQI community than it is to be in the straight community. Why do you think that is? Do you not view monogamy in the same way? Or I just find it a really, really interesting conversation. This is like, it's a big issue and it's a big topic, not an issue, but it's a big topic at the moment, especially amongst like my queer friends. And I was interviewed for BNT about being out and being, you know, on the radio and being queer, this Mardi Gras season and I answered a question it was very interesting she asked if I feel like
Starting point is 01:10:28 my relationship the journalist asked is going down a heteronormative route which got me thinking I guess it is right like there's Hayden and I and like I said we have our roles and there's a top there's a top and the bottom but that is literally the same way that a heterosexual couple would act you know there's somewhat the man who penetrates and the woman who is the receiver and you go we don't have to do that but then I worry that am I not representing my community well enough by falling into that role. Do you know what I mean? Do you think you fall into that role because it's also how you've been brought up? Conditioned, 100%. Okay, right. So it's a product of conditioning. Yes. Not necessarily a product of like just what you innately have kind of wanted to do.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Correct. And I think that is the tie back into your question, Brienne, because we have had to break down these norms and the way that we've been conditioned our whole lives. We then lend ourselves more to open and to exploring more because we have knocked down how we've been brought up well i think what you just said is like this idea that you're already not living in what is heteronormative relationships you've already pushed outside of what the barriers that society says is you know the way that it should be or it could be and you're like who defines that who in society says that this is the right way to define your relationship and so when you're already challenging those prescribed norms norms yeah you're more inclined to then be like well
Starting point is 01:11:41 let's push further out and and also challenge some of these other ways of living because who says that monogamy is the only way that you should live your life exactly and you look at the the top bottom binary bottoms uh stereotypically classed as feminine and tops are masculine but who why that's because that's what we see in heteronormative relationships we see men as masculine and women as feminine so the whole top bottom binary is rooted in misogyny it's it's such a it's a big big discussion really just big discussion it's actually really interesting because we had a question that came in on ask uncut a couple of weeks ago and it was a young girl whose boyfriend wanted to use dildos on himself. And she was like, well, does that make
Starting point is 01:12:18 him gay? And I thought it was such an interesting one. Cause I was like that thought, the thought that you think just because your partner wants to use a vibrator on himself, that penetration equals gay, that in itself is so deeply rooted in misogyny. And so deeply rooted in the idea that like to be penetrated, you must be homosexual. You have to be. Hello, the G spots up there. feels good literally it's there for a reason it feels great totally totally okay i have another one what is a bear and what is an otter let's get a pen and paper ladies i want to know some of the terminology here okay let's go so a bear is a bear is predominantly an older man maybe say 40 plus who is larger and who is hairy they look like a bear they're chubby they're cute and they've
Starting point is 01:13:00 they've got facial hair they've got chest hair i will eventually one day like a pokemon evolve to be a bear um what are you right now they're the cut i am get ready for this pens out ladies i am a cub i knew it baby bear i got a point but also the issue the problem is and this is all fun and games but in the community these roles are at the moment we've progressed to sort of look down on them because they pigeonhole people right they pigeonhole people into a certain role and bears are traditionally the tops and they're masculine and they're aggressive and they're they're domineering right and they want a bottom to throw around it's not the case but for the fun of this game we can talk about it because the roles do exist and they are different to the heterosexual
Starting point is 01:13:36 community you know i think it's so interesting because like i have heard some of these things and i know like i've heard my brother talk about them i've seen hashtags my brother loves the hashtag and he often writes hashtag their hashtag or gay bear gay bear gay bear in portland which like i love it because it's it's his way of finding his community and i think it's important for him because you know when he was in and i don't want to speak on my brother's behalf but when he was in australia i don't think he had the community around him he now lives in boston in He's just truly been able to be himself in a completely new town with new people around him without the shackles of like the way you've been raised. I guess like when you grow up in a small
Starting point is 01:14:11 community, there's so many constraints of the way other people view that trying to challenge the way other people view you can sometimes be harder. So he removed himself, lives overseas. And like now he uses the labels, but he uses them in a way to be able to find and identify other people of his community. That's amazing. And that's why they're there, you know, but it's when they're used to pigeonhole someone as a sexuality or as a position in the bedroom is when it becomes a problem. But let's keep going. Bear, there's otter. There's
Starting point is 01:14:37 an otter. What do you think an otter is? I have no idea. They like to build a house out of mud and sticks. Well, they fall asleep holding hands so they don't float away from each other. It's really cute. They sleep on their backs holding hands. No, cute. So traditionally, I mean, younger, quite cute with a little bit of hair.
Starting point is 01:14:53 A little bit of hair. And tiny. A tiny little otter. A tiny little otter, yeah there's twink twink is very skinny traditionally feminine and like i said i'm not subscribing to these roles and uh yeah just like cute classic like your bondi gay you know they've got the blonde hair the classic side cut you know when you think of twink you think of the classic gay man so there's a whole dictionary oh god yeah yeah i've got it in the boot of my car i'll bring it in after the interview and you can you can read up okay well i love absolutely love talking to you about this and i know that we could talk about it for a long time and maybe
Starting point is 01:15:24 will revisit it so thank you for sharing that's fine but like there's more to you than being gay so i don't want to do this whole episode what psych no i want to talk about i mean you've had a huge career in radio you've been on carpets you've hosted tv shows like you've done a lot other than just like here i am gay and i was a cock cow on a radio show in the bedroom and in my workplace so tell me maybe let's talk about who would be i guess what's the right word the most interesting or the biggest person you've interviewed, whether that was in person on red carpet or on the radio show, who's someone that you've just absolutely frothed on you're like,
Starting point is 01:16:00 that was so cool. Oh my God. Well, I interview a lot of musicians because I host the music show, like the night show. Miley Cyrus, I did recently, which was really great. And she joined the Zoom call. It's like in the height of COVID. She joined the Zoom call 10 minutes before she was meant to.
Starting point is 01:16:12 So I put this video on TikTok. It's gone crazy. But we sat there in silence for three minutes while I sneezed and coughed and picked my nose. She didn't know you, she didn't know she was there. Oh, and she didn't say anything because she was just expecting me to start. But I was expecting her. It was so bad.
Starting point is 01:16:28 They're like, don't join the Zoom before Miley. Let Miley join with her management. I'm like, great. So I'm sitting there at six in the morning because it was Miley Cyrus. I'm like, I'll get up. I get up for two people in the world, Miley Cyrus and the Lifeline Cut Girls. And I was sitting there and it's like, boom, boom. Like, you know, Sony Music, Los Angeles has joined the Zoom.
Starting point is 01:16:45 I'm like, great. So I'm PR, you know, nobody. So I'm sitting there. I'll show you the footage after. I'm just, like, typing my notes, looking at my Miley notes. And she's just sitting there, Miley Cyrus, like. Waiting for you while you pick your notes. Yeah, she's, like, popping her gums.
Starting point is 01:16:57 And you know when you try to get someone's attention without saying anything? She's like. And then I look up. I'm like, oh, shit, Miley. And she's like, hello. Awful. Awful. Why didn't she just say, hey, Mitch, I'm here?
Starting point is 01:17:10 She didn't know who I was. Like, these poor people sit there and do 100 press interviews one after the other. You're saying she didn't know who Mitch Turi was? I know. She does now. Don't you worry. okay and who was the worst interview who's someone that you would never have back or you're like i'm never speaking to you again oh it's not that i wouldn't have back i like and want to be friends
Starting point is 01:17:28 with everyone my personality i'm very friendly and and but i do at leaper was my worst interview and it was a problem because she's amazing pop star her music is sensational queer icon she's a gay icon and she's so hot so ethereal and uh warner music the label were like this is when my show started to it started to grow grew in the ratings and i'd been on the effort about a year and they're like, we're going to fly you to Hamilton Island. We're going to put you face-to-face with Dua Lipa. One of two exclusive interviews in the country. It's you.
Starting point is 01:17:53 I'm like, oh my God, this is great. So I go to, you know, ASOS, buy a button-down floral shirt and I'm going to fly to Hamilton Island, baby. So I get on a little propeller plane. I go there, I prep, I do my interview. Ash London, who is a good friend of mine, she's helped me a lot in radio. She's a brilliant broadcaster.
Starting point is 01:18:07 She was also there for SCA and not the opposition. And we'd never met. We met that day and she's like, hey, do you want to go first or should I go first? Oh, you go first. I don't mind. sat there with Dua Lipa. Dua Lipa hovered in like she's an ethereal being,
Starting point is 01:18:20 like just flew in, sat on the chair. Her team of 30 people like surrounded me in the pit. I was watching Ash do her interview and Ash asked all the same questions that I'd written. Oh, no. You should have gone first. Should have gone first or should have just not been in the room because it's a music show.
Starting point is 01:18:33 There's only 20 questions you can ask this lady. So Ash gets up, leaves, and then I go and sit down and I go, I can't ask the same questions. In reality, yes, I could. It's a different station. Yeah, it's a different station. Dua Lipa has asked these questions She's been asked these questions
Starting point is 01:18:47 And she wants these questions So she can be an autopilot You know She doesn't have to think Outside the box So I sit down We're in Hamilton Island Have you guys been to Hamilton Island?
Starting point is 01:18:54 Lovely Beautiful Hamilton Island's beautiful Gorgeous But at this time of year It was empty And they've got all these skyscrapers And there was no one in them
Starting point is 01:19:00 All the lights were off Like one or two lights were on In this 40 story building There were bats flying in the air And all the staff That work on the island Live on the island Right
Starting point is 01:19:07 So they don't have to commute So they're all young And they all sort of live locally They kind of look a bit I connect to the dots and I thought it looked a lot like North Korea because empty buildings. Dear God, Mitch. So I sit down with Dua and I go, I've got to start with something fun.
Starting point is 01:19:22 So I go, nice to meet you. Hello, lovely to meet you. Love you. I love the shirt. It was ASOS. I'm like, yes, ASOS. Kiss on the cheek. And I go, reset for Dua's hair.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Give us two. I'm like, cool. I'm like, Dua, how beautiful is Hamilton? And she's like, it's great, great to be here. And I go, but don't you get kind of like a North Korea vibe from this place? And she was like, excuse me? I'm like, well, North Korea, the giant skyscrapers, and there's bats in the sky and the staff at the restaurant are children.
Starting point is 01:19:45 I mean, they're being paid. Like, really lent into this North Korean. Wow. I can't. I want to sink into my chair. And she was like, well, considering they're paying for the PR of the trip and paying for the yacht and the hotel, I think it's a beautiful place and I think we should start the interview.
Starting point is 01:19:57 And I just melted into my seat and we started the interview and then I had no questions and it was the worst interview. I had 20 minutes with Dua and we went for four. I just feel like when you say to yourself, oh, I really need to start with something fun, I'm going to talk about North Korea. Those two things don't ever go along in the same sentence. I feel like any bad, like it just kind of could err
Starting point is 01:20:15 on the point of being racist as well. Of course without realising, oh, it would never go there. That would not be my first thought. No way. I mean, I've learned a lot and that was one of my first big interviews and it's still to this day is the worst interview I've ever done. Well, okay, speaking of the worst interviews you've ever done, what's been like the biggest career highlight moment
Starting point is 01:20:30 where you were like, I'll fucking moan it. Where you were coughing into Miley Cyrus' video channel. Maybe. I feel like we just keep talking about the things that went wrong, right? Yeah, no, there's been great moments too. i had a really like a nice moment i've done three arias right i've been on on the air doing my radio show like concurrently with arias which in the radio industry the music industry it's like the night of nights right because i interview artists i play their music on the show i interview them
Starting point is 01:20:53 and then to go to the arias and have that rapport with them it's just a nice full circle for a radio person so my first one i was on the red carpet like within my iphone like keith urban like try to talk to me and nicole kidman talk and then the next year i got booked on the red carpet then the year after that the arias got me to host the official pre-show and then this year last year i was hosting the main show and i was on air live on tv at the arias and they kept crossing the hosts were crossing to me backstage and it's just odd to go from literally behind the red carpet not even media accredited to there be hosting at the arias it's crazy from the bottom now we're here but also i would think that like now you also do a saturday show with us so like i feel like you
Starting point is 01:21:30 know it's a truly come full circle what we think of career highlights well i mean this is the ultimate career highlight i've been on life on card no that's actually incredible when you say it like that that you said you've really and i think for anyone listening that that is going into something different or thinks that like their dreams are too big or something's unaccessible or too hard it's a really good reminder mitch that you just got to turn up if you love doing something and you really want to do something you can dream big you literally just keep turning up and if you love it enough and you're good enough someone eventually is going to take notice and like it took you a couple of years but in all honesty in three years over three years you went from like
Starting point is 01:22:03 the algae on the bottom cashcock maybe not algae but cashcock in terms of the arias like you know in terms of the arias you would like the little algae trying to play anyone please come and speak to me to being the guy that runs the show so good on you but i think also like it's a real lesson and success not coming all at once you know like even though you are very young you have worked in this industry for a decade almost a decade and you've been with the one company for a decade it's like there's so much to be said for people who take you know steady incremental steps throughout their career and really chip away and work hard to be able to create that success for themselves.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Yeah, I agree. I've always made the joke. I was a panelist on the Love Island After Party with Abbey Chatfield late last year. It was recapping Love Island. And they would announce all the panelists every week and it was Flex Marmy, Influencer, Social Icon, Socialite, and that's someone else, and Reality Star.
Starting point is 01:22:52 They went to me and they're like, radio announcer. It's like, why have I taken the hard route? Why did I try to do traditional media where I could have taken photos of my dick and put it on OnlyFans and probably not made any money. Why did I do media? But I love it. And once you're like, I had an itch for it. And I'm so happy that I have chosen the career that I've done.
Starting point is 01:23:07 But Mitch, thank you for coming on the podcast today. I feel like we've been seeing a lot of you lately. I just love, like, we spend so much time with you. You're such a massive part. Like, you're the third part of our on-air show, you know? Of our throuple. Yeah. And like, people know of you, they hear your voice.
Starting point is 01:23:23 But to be able to share a little bit more of who you are gives them that context. and we're so glad that you could join us today and do that. Thank you, ladies. I also want to say, like, I think this is the fastest I've become this close to friends with someone, I think, in a long time. Someone or both of us? Is there just one of us?
Starting point is 01:23:37 I think of you two as like a joint package. No, but our friendship. Our friendship, yeah, and I've got two sisters. Maybe there's something in that. You know, I'm gay. But our friendship is, I mean, we're friends. We're not really co-workers, but it happens so quickly. Mitch, we absolutely love you.
Starting point is 01:23:51 We couldn't think of anyone else better to be on the radio show with us. Thanks for stopping by today, and I hope you had an amazing Mardi Gras and we will be seeing you again on Saturday. Before we go, Mitch, where, other than the radio show, where can people find you? Okay, so I'm live on the radio every night, weeknights in Sydney and Melbourne and on Kiss on iHeartRadio.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Okay, no need to brag. On the night show and weekends with the girls. Otherwise, I have an iHeartRadio podcast, Is It Just Me? You just search that. It's very fun, very silly. What about The Gram? Oh, at Mitch Drury, yeah. Thank you so much for being a part of the pod.
Starting point is 01:24:21 We fucking love you and it was really great to have a chat today. love you guys and don't forget love your mom love your dad no tell your sister and your brother but we're not there yet we've got a whole ending to this oh really we're not wrapping it oh sorry you can wrap your segment try love love your mom love your dad love your sister tell your mom tell your dad tell your dog see you guys on saturday it's also great to know that you don't listen to the podcast thank you for having me ladies it was a pleasure guys you know that we never finish our episode without our suck and our sweet our highlight and our low light of each and every week. Brittany, do you want to go first? Yeah, I can go first. What terrible,
Starting point is 01:24:57 trivial traumas have been happening to you this week? So this, I've got two this week. It was the same thing, but it happened twice. So it's the same suck. Repetitive trauma. Yeah, it's repetitive. I don't know if it's trying to tell me something, but this, my first suck happened literally 10 minutes ago. We have a big work day today for Life Uncut. So Keisha, Laura and myself, we spend the whole day just like pumping through stuff, recording, working business meetings. we who actually thinks we have a day where we like get things done it's so weird my days are professional people we're organized one day a week none of us wearing bras but apart from that it's fine i got a bra it's not doing much i'm literally holding my breasts as we talk and that's why that's
Starting point is 01:25:35 why you brought it up you're looking at me like it's not a professional workspace even though we have one day a week where we try and get shit done we spend most of the time the day like talking and on instagram so we ordered lunch because we are absolutely famished it was by the time we all put our orders in. The delivery fee, it turns out we're pretty hungry. We ordered a lot. It was a pretty expensive Uber Eats today. We've been waiting like an hour and a half for it and it just turned up. It literally just turned up to the door with one, is it a Bayer bun? It was one barn me. Just one. Just one single roll for Keisha. One single thing for all of us. So they charged us for the whole order and it was like them delivering one spring roll. That's what we got, one spring
Starting point is 01:26:12 roll. So Keisha's out there eating now. Her one roll that got delivered and we are starving. So We're going to go get something after this. But that was my suck. And it's happened twice this week that I put an order in and it didn't turn up. It's actually – I'm true. Do you know what?
Starting point is 01:26:24 Like it's the dumbest suck, but it's so disappointing when your order gets here and it's not what you ordered and you've waited for an hour and 20 minutes because, like, there's a lot of Uber Eats delays at the moment. I'm not fussy. You could have sent me anything. You can send me the wrong order. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:26:36 It's just that – Please don't send me air. Don't send me air. Like, I'm like, I'm so hungry. Anyway, yes, it is stupid and trivial, but that's what this is about. My sweet is, I was really trying to think, my sweet would definitely be that I had someone finally, one human, one, for the first time in a long time,
Starting point is 01:26:52 slid into my DMs and it was really, really hot. That was all that happened to me. Do you think you could get back out in the dating scene already or are you just like giving some space? Oh, I would have 100%. I would have been on a date with this person 100%, but they don't live here, they live overseas. But like, yeah, within two seconds I would have been on the date.
Starting point is 01:27:09 I guess, I don't know, I guess, yeah, like that's what you do when you're single. you've got to get back on the horse but this I'm not ready to just like jump out and get into a relationship but this person could have asked me to go swimming naked in Iceland in zero degree water and I would have done it is there someone who I would know yeah I would have been the happiest person guys take that information and let that simmer for a little while I'm sure he's someone who's semi-famous that's what I'm guessing all right okay all right um do you know what like we said on last week's uh Tuesday episode it's kind of you know it's a hard time to do a suck
Starting point is 01:27:40 and sweet because there's so much happening in the world I think everybody's social media is the suck at the moment seeing how how just how fucking hideous the northern rivers region is with everything that's happened with the floodings and we hope if you guys can do anything if you haven't donated yet if it's been something that you've been thinking about getting involved in but you haven't yet please take this as your little reminder to do what you can to help the people of the northern rivers region I have a suck for the week it's pretty minor but it still happened gastro once again i know it's it's the running gastro follows you around no it's just there's been a really bad cycle of it in the eastern suburbs and in daycares at the moment
Starting point is 01:28:20 and like we had one bout when it was queensland and then we had another bout over the last week but that and also on top of that lola has developed some sort of allergy to something and i can't figure out what it is and it's just getting progressively worse so it's a bit of a like i don't know sometimes you just go through these little tricky phases of sickness with kids and it kind of wears you down. And they last 20 years. Yeah, you have these tricky phases until they're 40. You have these tricky phases from birth till about 55.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Literally. And my sweet for the week this week is also child-related. Marley and I got to have a really cute date day on Saturday. Is this the one when you went on for the train ride? How cute is that? Well, Matt was feeling unwell and so when Lola went down for her nap to get Marley out of the house, I took her and we went to Bronte Park and there's this beautiful waterfall there and then we went on a train ride
Starting point is 01:29:07 And, you know, every so often I share this thing on Instagram the other day where Matt was like, I love daddy. I don't love mommy. And that's pretty much what she's like all the time. But after this really cute day that we had together where I bribed her with train rides, ice cream, and my love, I was like, I'll put you on the swing all day. She loved you for 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Yeah, she loved me for the rest of that afternoon, but then loves Matt again. But anyway, it was just, I had a really, it's really special sometimes to like have that one-on-one time with your oldest kid. Oh, that was really sweet. Yeah. I love that moving forward,
Starting point is 01:29:35 like all yours are gonna be kids and all mine dogs like it's like my dog is it's like Delilah is the equivalent of my child all mine are kids and all yours are gonna be hot single men that's where it is at but I mean that's what we're putting out to the universe let's hope they're all hot single men manifest your best guys that is it from us if you've loved the episode we hope that it brought you a smile today we hope that it was an uplifting one for you please slide on in leave us a review at apple podcast five stars would be a great place to start and also you can jump on the instagram it's life uncut podcast or you can also join us in the facebook group it is life uncut discussion group and that is where all the sexy saucy fun juicy stuff goes
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