Life Uncut - How AI Is Potentially Changing the Porn Industry - Uncut with Angela White

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

Today’s guest is not only the most searched porn star globally, she is also by far our most viewed guest on youtube. Maybe people google Angela White expecting something else and they end up on ...our youtube channel instead!Angela White is back on home soil fresh off winning two PornHub Awards in May, including taking home the crown again for the Most Popular Female Performer Award for 2025– the biggest award a female adult star can win.We were lucky enough to speak with Angela back in February of 2024. Our episode was titled Everything You've Ever Wanted to Ask The World's Biggest Pornstar!   In that episode we spoke about:  If orgasms are real in porn Boundaries in sex work The 'rules' in porn How to give blow jobs, dirty talk and start back door experiences OnlyFans and whether the money is as lucrative as we think Angela's most viral moment Today we wanted to speak with Angela about the trajectory of the porn industry and how the landscape may or may not be changing with advancements in things like AI.  We chat: How Angela chooses other performers to work with Angela’s favourite type of porn How people respond to Angela when they see her in person Whether creators need to keep pushing the boundaries and setting ‘new records’ on onlyfans to be successful The one fantasy Angela would love to fulfil that she hasn’t been able to Porn following trends How AI is going to change the porn  Whether creators could make more or less with the introduction of AI Are we sold a ‘get rich quick’ lie with certain types of onlyfans content? How much work is onlyfans?   You can find more from Angela and links to all of her platforms from her:Website Instagram You can watch us on Youtube Find us on Instagram Join us on tiktok Or join the Facebook Discussion Group Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! XxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode was recorded on Camaragal land. Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Brittany. And I'm Laura. And today we have a repeat offender. We have had our guest on the podcast before. She is a friend of Life Uncut. Not only is she the most searched porn star globally, but she is by far our most viewed guest on YouTube. And now I think the reason for that is I think a lot of people YouTube or Google Angela White looking for something very different.
Starting point is 00:00:37 And then they find Life Uncut. They might end up on Life Uncut. But it's been about 18 months since we've had you on the podcast, Angela, but you are back home on Aussie soil after winning two Pornhub Awards in May, taking home the crown again for most popular female performer award in 2025, which is the biggest award you can have in your industry. and now if you guys missed it about 18 months ago we did do an episode with you about everything you've ever wanted to ask a porn star and we're going to link that in the show notes because it
Starting point is 00:01:05 is worth a listen oh my god go back and listen to it because it was like an eye-opener for us and i feel like on this podcast we've had many conversations about sex but if you've ever been curious angela was very forthcoming and gave all of the information about the behind the scenes and also i think for me that episode there was so much in it around de-stigmatizing the work that you've chosen and like how you got into the industry. And I think people have a perception around something that they don't know the ins and the outs of, which I really enjoyed. So definitely go back and listen to that because we are going to scoot across a lot of the stuff we covered in that episode, but we do want to catch up with you on what's been happening in
Starting point is 00:01:38 the last 18 months. And we want to talk about the trajectory of porn and the industry with the introduction of AI and the extreme growth of AI. It seems to be taking over the world right now and the porn industry is not excluded. So Angela, welcome to the podcast again. thank you so much for having me back. It's great to be here. Welcome back. Thank you. I mean, last time we asked you if you have an actually unfiltered story and your response to that was that nothing is embarrassing when you work in the industry that you work in. Yeah. I know. I was trying to think of a story. I really was trying to rack my brain. I just can't think of anything. I think in the industry, we have a very different relationship with our bodies and with bodily
Starting point is 00:02:18 fluids, like things that other people might find embarrassing. We just don't. You did tell a story that is worth a listen and i i listened to it again a couple of days ago and i was laughing out loud but you did tell a story you're like whilst it's not embarrassing some people might find it you said you were masturbating with a big dildo and then you laughed so hard that you squeezed it out and it like flung across and hit the director yeah in the head so i mean it's not really embarrassed it's a funny story it's not embarrassing but also it shows the power of your vulva great great pelvic floor that's what you've got that is what that is right there i mean when you laugh, you really do. At least my abs are squeezing and my pelvic floor is squeezing every
Starting point is 00:02:58 time I laugh. When I laugh now, I just wet myself. So I'm at that stage of pregnancy. So I envy your pelvic floor. Congratulations, Angela. It must be nice. How different these conversations, the two worlds are right now that I'm looking at. No, you know what? Something we spoke about last time and I found it really interesting. And it was how, I guess like your rules have changed over the course of your career, how there were things at the beginning of your career that you were like, I'm never going to do that. You were saying that you started off doing only girl on girl. And then it kind of evolved into things that you felt more comfortable about. You explored different options and different things. Has anything changed in the last 18 months from
Starting point is 00:03:34 when we last spoke to things that you find yourself doing now that 18 months ago, you would have been like, I don't know if I'm going to do that. Not really in the past 18 months. I think at this point in my career, I've pretty much explored most things. I won't say everything because there are still some things I don't want to do but yeah I think I've explored everything that I want to explore is there any stuff that you've done now that you're like actually I won't do that again that's a good question not really I mean so depending on who I work with the chemistry is either really hot or maybe not so much so there sometimes I'll work with a performer that I'm like like so excited to work with them again or I'll work with someone where we just don't have the
Starting point is 00:04:18 same kind of chemistry or vibe so I'll be like I won't have them like at the top of my list to shoot with again but there's not really any specific acts that I'm like that are off the table that I've done that I've enjoyed in the past. Do you do a vibe check with somebody new like when you know you're going to perform do you yes you know like when you start dating someone you're like let's go for a coffee first and feel it out do you meet them what's a vibe check look like for a porn scene? We don't meet each other although sometimes that can happen at like an industry event so we go to industry parties and you'll meet somebody that you haven't worked with before and kind of do the vibe check there but the way I do it is I do market research which just
Starting point is 00:04:57 involves me looking at their work and seeing how they interact with other performers so if I like the way they have sex I like the way they engage in foreplay then I'll be like okay that's someone that I want to work with and do you get to choose everyone that you work with now like in that point of your, have you always been able to sort of be like, okay, I'm not doing this unless it's this person or I'm not doing this. If it's that person, like, do you have that level of control at all stages? At all stages you have, you absolutely have a choice. You can absolutely say no. But the thing is at the start of your career, you haven't worked with anybody. So you want to work with everybody so you can kind of see who you vibe with, see who you enjoy working with, and then you
Starting point is 00:05:40 can kind of cull the list down. But yeah, absolutely. Performers always have a choice whether they want to work with someone or not. So what has been going on for you in the last 18 months? The last time we spoke to you, you had just launched your own production company. You were very busy and you were very entrepreneurial. Are you still focusing on that now or are you taking a step away from that and going back into performing? What's like your key focus at the moment? So I've always, even with my production company, I've always been performing. That is my passion. That is my love. So that's always at the forefront front of what I'm doing. But in the last 18 months, I did produce and direct a really big
Starting point is 00:06:14 movie called Fuck Angela. Wait, are we swearing on? Oh, yeah. Okay. Last time you talked about fisting your butthole. Okay, you can swear. Well, the title of the movie is literally Fuck Angela, getting straight down to what I wanted in this movie. But it was an early 2000s throwback movie. So it was really my love letter to my favorite era and genre of porn, which is early 2000s gonzo. When you say movie, like are we talking like feature length? Like how long is a movie? Yeah, like feature length movie. Not only did I release it on DVD, but because it was a throwback,
Starting point is 00:06:46 I released it on VHS. Wow, I love this. Wow. And how are people watching this on VHS? Does anyone still have one in the house? Yeah, people still have VCRs. It's kind of like there's been a resurgence as well, especially when it comes to physical media and the kind
Starting point is 00:07:00 of nostalgic return to the early 2000s. I remember the day when you'd have to go into like Video Easy or Blockbuster and there'd be like that sordid section in the corner. and you'd see who was walking down there. That was the only way that you could access. Sometimes there was like a beaded curtain. Not at ours.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Ours was like, literally it was like horror, kids. Comedy. Porn. It kind of like went from soft porn to slightly more hard porn the more you got into the corner. But also no one ever just went and got a porn video. They'd also have to cover it up. It's like when you started buying condoms when you're young,
Starting point is 00:07:30 you'd have to get chocolate and like cover it. Like you'd get a rom-com and cover the porn up. When you say 2000s is your favourite era of porn, what was that era? It was just really heavily focused on gonzo porn, which is my favorite kind of porn. So gonzo porn is all sex porn, really. So it's really ditching the script, ditching any artifice and getting straight to the performers and focusing on the chemistry between them.
Starting point is 00:07:53 So instead of making them dress up and pretend to be a plumber and a lonely housewife, it's just like getting performers together that you know have really hot chemistry and letting them fuck how exactly how they want to fuck. So no storyline as such. No story. You're not coming to fix the pool. What do you find is the most popular type of porn that people are searching? I think it's so varied, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I think that the internet has democratized porn and I think that there's a niche for it. Like there's a, yeah, everybody has their own niche. There's a market for everybody. What's it like? I mean, it must be such a surreal experience being one. I mean, you're the most searched person in terms of the world of porn. people would recognize you on the street but then I would dare say that so many people either you'd have people who want to come up to you and be like oh my god I love you but then you'd also
Starting point is 00:08:42 have people who are like there's Angela White I'm with my wife can't say why I love her like how do how does that usually go for you in a public setting it all variations it's all variations I mean there are people that come up to me and will ask for a photo and I also get the people that kind of do more of a double take and it's not necessarily that they're with their partner it's just that they're potentially a little bit shy to come up because they're fantasies in real life well also by coming up to me they are admitting that they watch porn which i don't think there's anything wrong with that but there is so much shame around sex and even watching porn in our society that they might feel a little awkward about coming up and basically if they say i'm
Starting point is 00:09:20 your fan they're basically saying hi i've seen you naked and i've masturbated to you essentially that's their internal monologue like it's the elephant in the room when somebody comes up to say, yeah, I love you. It's like, I've jacked off to you. Yeah. It doesn't bother me. I mean, that's what I want you to do with my content. Thank you. It's a compliment to me. Exactly. Yeah. So you just won these huge awards. One of them is being the most popular. What is the criteria for that? Is it literally just being the most searched person or has it got to do with your performances, trying new things, pushing boundaries? What is the actual voting criteria? So for the Pornhub awards, those are based on data. So that's on searches and
Starting point is 00:09:57 comments and basically all data driven for awards like the avn performer of the year which i've also won that's different that's more based on the body of work based on your performance on your marketability so there's different criteria so for the porn hub most searched it's literally i'm the most searched porn star for 2025 congrats thank you that is so amazing how do you how do you find in terms of and i know we spoke about a little bit last time only fans which has obviously brought in a whole new wave of exposure to the porn industry but also it's made it more accessible for some people to tap into it I think there's also become a real competition element well at least a competition element that we now see in terms of mainstream media trying to set these
Starting point is 00:10:39 huge records for like the most amount of people in the shortest amount of time what's your perception on I guess like the trying to set records or like the competition element that comes now with the industry. And I guess more so the fact that things have to be pushed crazier and crazier in order to get those headlines. Oh, okay. To get the headline, sure. Okay. I mean, when the news outlets want clicks, they want a headline that's scandalous or quite impactful, but you can have a successful career without ever getting a headline. I think that the most important thing is to create content that you really enjoy, to create content that you find fun. and that's going to be different for every creator so for me like my focus is always genuine
Starting point is 00:11:22 connection so even when I do group scenes for example I choose an amount of men that I can actually make sure that I'm connecting with each one of them but that's I mean that's a personal choice now in terms of like the record setting and like the really big numbers if that's what those creators find really fun and enjoyable then I think more power to them if people are doing that just for the headlines. I don't know if that's a great idea. And I would say to anyone thinking that they have to do something crazy to be successful, that's absolutely not true. You can have an incredibly successful career just by doing what you love, whatever that may be. Have you seen, you know, with the surge of accessibility to porn and OnlyFans and social
Starting point is 00:12:06 media creators creating this content, have you seen a surge over the last couple of years of people that want to get into the porn industry because of, I guess, the highlight reel that we might be seeing from some people online? Like, has it increased the number of people that want to be adult performers? I don't know that it has. There's always been people that want to get into the industry. If anything, there's so much money to be made on OnlyFans, I feel like there could be less people coming into the studio system. Yeah, right. As in they're entering through a different way now I guess I mean it's every single industry has its own version of it I talk about like in media terms there used to be a traditional route for radio right people would come they would
Starting point is 00:12:47 work as producers they'd work their way up through network stations now you go on reality tv shows and you end up getting radio shows that there's other and I guess like there have been new ways of entry points into different industries and I feel like OnlyFans has potentially made it more accessible for some people whereas like taking a very traditional route and being at the mercy or being someone who has to be cast in something like you have directors and other people who are the ones in control of that situation especially when you're just starting out but potentially OnlyFans gives younger creators or newer creators the ability to dictate how they want to create that well yeah I think OnlyFans has really empowered creators in that like all these
Starting point is 00:13:27 creators are now basically producers and directors as well so they're casting their own collabs they're deciding on the location on the wardrobe on how long they want to shoot for what kind of content they want to create so I do think OnlyFans has empowered performers to even just be more creative and bring their own sexual visions to life. We did see some teasers with you and blue-eyed Kayla Jade I don't know if you're allowed to say what's going on there are we gonna see a collab there uh we just did an interview so far so that was a bit um a real as in like this time it was a face-to-face one was it face-to-face podcast so I'm very excited for that to come out okay so watch this space maybe for a collab or no I would love to okay yeah all right well you had a hit
Starting point is 00:14:11 first what do you think in terms of you when you say like there's nothing now that you haven't done that you wouldn't as in like in terms of things that you've tried you're like I've kind of tried everything when you feel like that in your career where do you go to from there like what's next in terms of the things that you want to be creating the type of content that you find the most fulfilling and also like what is it that's like the next big project oh I'm always excited to shoot with new people and kind of build chemistry with new performers I guess the one thing that I haven't done that I have spoken about that I'd love to do it's a very unrealistic dream but I would love to shoot a scene in space we were gonna ask yeah yeah we're so interested in that
Starting point is 00:14:51 no talk to us about that where did the space fantasy come from katie perry wasn't no no no i've had it from you i've had this space fantasy for a very long time the idea of having sex in zero gravity is just yeah unbelievable and so you've been training for it yeah i did the zero gravity experience with zero g which was absolutely amazing and uh i don't know if you saw my little reel with the water droplets because I mean the money shot in space is just going to be crazy because the cum's going to like end up in little round droplets I'm just going to be able to float around and eat it. I'm floating around in space with a whole lot of gum. You're like the cum space Pac-Man you know how Pac-Man used to go and eat but then so have you spoken to them
Starting point is 00:15:36 logistically about if it is possible like can sex in zero gravity now that you've experienced it do you think that you would be able to control it and have that experience you would need to have some sort of harness because you float away from each other basically and if the man thrusts into you if it's a boy yes exactly so you'd have to have some kind of harness to keep you together can you do it in terms of when you say you've done training and you've gone and experienced like the zero gravity that we have here can you create a sex scene in that like would that be logistically possible uh logistically it would be tough because on those parabolic flights you only really get 30 seconds of microgravity at a time right okay so you've got 30 you'd have 30 seconds
Starting point is 00:16:21 to get your pump on that's a real quickie isn't it yeah it's a real quickie and then you have like a few minutes of like regular gravity again and then another 30 seconds of microgravity so it would be tough to shoot a scene also a lot of these companies have contracts with NASA and NASA's not going to, because it's the same. NASA doesn't want to be on Pornhub. What are you talking about? It's great publicity for them though. You're like, look at how many clicks I get. God damn it, NASA, get on board. So is it, is it possible then? Do you think there is a way you're going to be able to do it? I don't mean just like physically do it, but is there a company that would facilitate this? Look, it's not impossible, but I kind of need a billionaire to
Starting point is 00:16:58 be interested in. Elon Musk loves procreating and he loves space. Well, this is the thing. if we are going to populate mars or any of these space stations we really need to have research into sexuality in space in microgravity in different or even martian gravity all these different environments because reproduction is going to be more complicated in these situations i love that now you can pitch this as like i'm just here for humanity guys i'm here to help no ulterior motive i'm completely selfless i just want to help science have you reached out to But seriously, like I don't feel like it's necessarily something that someone like Elon Musk would poo-poo, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I feel like there's a big part of him that might – he's pretty crazy and he's pretty forward. He also owns like half a space. SpaceX isn't there, don't – doesn't he have a contract with NASA too? I have no idea. I think he does. I can't say that I'm literate on the Elon Musk space. I'd be reaching out, sliding to his DMs.
Starting point is 00:17:54 He responds to a lot of people on Twitter. Okay, watch this space. Angela you mentioned something before and I find this really fascinating because we see it in fashion we see it in literally every other industry when things come back around in cycles and you talked about how your favorite is from you know the bygone era of porn do you find that porn itself has like a cyclical sort of you know what was once in fashion comes back in fashion maybe it's in terms of not just the type of porn but it could be in terms of like the look or the style, does it have that sort of repetitive kind of cycle?
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yes. And it's also influenced by mainstream culture as well. So for example, like if there's a popular TV show, there's going to be a triple X parody of it. Even now, like in the mainstream culture, we've got like a nostalgic throwback to the early 2000s. And so that was my perfect moment to bring, to do my love letter to my favorite era of pornography. And then of course, we have our own little niches that for a while there it was the the faux-cest stuff the step brother step sister stuff that I feel like is waning that's not as big of a trend but for a while there that was a huge trend is it a trend because people are curious about it or is it a trend because people genuinely deeply have those fantasies themselves look I can't I don't know for
Starting point is 00:19:15 sure but my just opinion is that it's just about the taboo like it's just another taboo to tap Yeah, because I mean, like, it's interesting to me that that became something that was so fixated on. And it's like, surely there aren't that many people in the world who actually want to fuck their stepsister. Like, are there? I don't know. Or their stepdad or their like, that's because like, some of that is obviously like everyone has kinks. And if it lives in a fantasy world, then like, it's fine. But that's when it kind of like tips into like, well, is it a fantasy because it's a real thought? Or is it a fantasy because it's a fantasy? I think it's a fantasy because it's a fantasy. I think if you look at a lot of the tropes of porn, porn is just like it's naughty. You know, it's like there's cheating fantasies, fantasies about having sex with your boss or your secretary or having sex with the plumber while your husband is out. It's all these naughty taboos. Or HR at Coldplay. Yeah, I think it's just like, you know, we want to have these little naughty fantasies.
Starting point is 00:20:16 And so porn just figured out, oh, there's another one that we can tap into and people liked it. I mean, we did want to speak to you about AI and the way AI is affecting the porn industry. We are seeing deep fakes, AI generated, fully synthetic actors and actresses. How have you seen as someone that's so deeply integrated in the industry, how have you seen AI affect the industry? Well, I think that pornography is very uniquely positioned to take advantage of AI, especially performers that have already built a brand like I myself have already had my entire body scanned I
Starting point is 00:20:50 did that in in 2021 and I've been working with a team to have my body rigged so that I can wear a motion capture suit and make my digital double move or you can actually program it with a computer and and have my body move so when you say you've had your body scanned you mean to create a realistic AI version correct yes so that then I will have a digital double that can work when I'm not working because there's only so much I can do as one person. Is it realistic enough what you have created thus far that people would not be able to tell the difference or is it pretty evident that one is the real you and one is AI you?
Starting point is 00:21:25 It's very close but, like, it's not ready to launch in my opinion. But it's looking very close. I mean, this is an interesting way in terms of how it can be used for the positive because I think a lot of the times we hear about AI, especially deep fakes, and we hear about the negative side of it, how, like, people's images are being taken. And I know that there are rules and regulations that are coming out around it, but it is kind of chicken or the egg in these situations a lot when new technologies developed, the
Starting point is 00:21:53 legislation doesn't catch up fast enough. So often it's like not until deep fakes are already being circulated that then governments and policies go, oh, that's going to affect people negatively. But it's so interesting to hear how you speak about it being a positive thing potentially in the world of porn. Well, yeah, absolutely. I mean, there's only so many scenes. I can only be on one set at one time, but my digital double could do any porn scene
Starting point is 00:22:16 at any time. Any fan could just program my body to do a scene while I'm potentially just sitting at home. Does that ever? Which sounds like a dream. Yeah, but I also think like if you can give that license to someone to have full, complete control over your digital body, like even just saying that I could, you know, be sitting at home and someone could program it to do whatever they want to it.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Well, no, there's always limits. Even with like if you're talking to ChatGPT, they put limits on what kinds of conversations you can have. So you can't just make a digital double say or do absolutely anything you want. Right, okay. You'd program it to be able to do. Have its boundaries. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And then if you are doing that, would you be making more money or less money in terms of like per job? So obviously overall you're able to earn more because you can be in 100 places at once. But if you were going to license, if you were going to go into a physical scene or you're going to go and license your AI body what would you charge out more so I own my my scan so I don't know I mean obviously this is all sort of in the future we're not quite there yet but I don't think we're far off to be honest yeah I guess we'll see what
Starting point is 00:23:28 happens but in terms of licensing I'm not sure whether I would how I would license my digital double at this point because I'm very much, I love to have control of my image. So I'm going to be very careful about how I use this digital double. And also like I would say in terms of like performers having their bodies scanned by companies that then own their image, that's a little problematic because then that company is going to own your image in the AI space. It's hard to answer the question, will I make more money this way or that way? Because we're not quite there yet. Is it something that exists or what are like the parameters for it in terms of Pornhub at the moment? So is it possible for there to be deep fakes at the moment
Starting point is 00:24:13 that are circulated online that the person doesn't know exists? Do you know what I mean? Is that a possibility? I can't really speak on deep fakes because I do want to differentiate because deep fakes are not part of the porn industry. No. Because deep fakes, just like, I always had an issue when people would say revenge porn because that kind of content isn't pornography because pornography as I define it is consensual content made by adults for adults and revenge porn is something I don't know what we're going to call it but it's revenge sexual assault material I don't know what but it's not pornography it's a really good point actually yeah it definitely should have a different name yeah because it's not it's not something
Starting point is 00:24:51 that's created by the pornography industry for you know it's not consensual exactly so and same with deep fakes that's not consensual and so do you think that maybe the murky line is is because it can all exist in the same place so it's possible for it to be uploaded if say for example Pornhub and I also don't know enough about it so I don't want to say anything that may be technically incorrect but on one hand it is a platform where you can find very consensual highly creative content that's been made from people who love their jobs and love the industry but you can also find things on there that probably maybe shouldn't be living on that platform as well actually not anymore because Pornhub yeah Pornhub changed their policies I believe in 2020 and 2021 and so
Starting point is 00:25:35 now you have to be a registered performer to be able to upload content right so not amateur in the same way as what it used to look like that's really interesting so I mean obviously those changes had to come into effect for to protect people but I didn't realize it was something that had been upheld you know have you seen any AI generated images of you already that you were not in control of oh yeah they're awful no I mean I mean awful as in they don't they're not real I mean they kind of look like me but I'm like I wouldn't do that just watch the real one I did that anyway yeah exactly it's scary because even just I'm just thinking of one this has nothing to do with sex but just how crazily real AI is now there was this model that's gone viral just at
Starting point is 00:26:21 Wimbledon recently she was at all the events she was she was like a beautiful fashion model and she was watching the matches and it was insane and she grew by like 150,000 followers over Wimbledon she had really famous professional athletes from around the world messaging her wanting to date her and then it came out that she she's just AI she doesn't exist she's completely fake but it's also why it's one of the interesting things because I think people talk about this space of like AI coming into porn but a lot of porn especially the porn that you do is all about human connection so it's like that's the one thing that can't be replicated in the same way I do think it raises concerns and you hit the nail on the head when it comes to who owns an image
Starting point is 00:27:01 and that's probably the thing that hasn't been nailed down or drilled down yet because I feel like a lot of people maybe not even realizing could sign that right away for a immediate offer that feels really amazing not knowing what the long-term sacrifice may be of doing that or making that decision early on in a career, especially when AI is still so embryonic in every industry. As someone that's so multifaceted in the industry, that you are a performer, you have OnlyFans, but you also produce your own content, like you have multiple funnels of income. If you're happy to tell us, what do you think is the most profitable for you as someone
Starting point is 00:27:40 that has their finger in so many pies. Oh, it's easy. It's OnlyFans. OnlyFans, by far, by far, by far. Because you got into it quite late, didn't you? You joined OnlyFans? Yeah, OnlyFans. Yes, well, I had an OnlyFans account in the end of 2017,
Starting point is 00:27:53 the start of 2018, so I had one quite early, but I wasn't really utilising it. I was uploading a photo every now and again, not really fully into it. But then when COVID hit and I could no longer be on set and everybody was at home and there was no other way to really interact with fans, OnlyFans blew up as a platform and that's when I really started to engage in OnlyFans.
Starting point is 00:28:11 What do you enjoy doing more? Even though OnlyFans may be more of an income asset, what is the type of content that you enjoy doing? I love both. I love both studio work and OnlyFans. I mean, with OnlyFans, I create all sorts of content for it. So I create the same kind of content that I would for studios, so very highly produced content,
Starting point is 00:28:30 but then I also produce more amateur POV, solo content. Like more day-to-day, unfiltered, like more realistic kind of content. How much of that is personalized? Because I know with OnlyFans is obviously like a little bit more of a personal accessibility, which obviously you have control over. You allow people in as much as you want or you are able to set those boundaries. How much of the work that you do on there is that personalization aspect? Quite a lot, actually. I mean, it actually depends on my schedule, depending on how much I'm shooting that week or that month. So, for example, like custom videos, I turn them on and off depending on how much time
Starting point is 00:29:09 I have. So I do offer custom videos. They are a little more expensive, obviously, because I can't sell it over and over again. So it's more profitable for me to do a solo that I can sell to everyone than, say, a custom solo that I sell to one person, which is why I have to charge more. But I do quite a lot of like quite personalized content. And even the content that I do that I send in the DMs to everyone, I still try and make it feel personalized. Even if I'm not saying a person's name, I try and make it very intimate
Starting point is 00:29:40 as if I speak into the lens as if I'm speaking to my fans so that, you know, it feels more intimate, feels special. It feels like I made it just for them. What are some of the more unusual requests you've had on OnlyFans? I get requests for everything, every niche, obviously because I have big natural boobs, I do get a lot of big natural tit fetish custom requests. So it might even just be like oiling up my boobs or, you know, putting nipple clamps on and just, just boob focused stuff. But then I've got my feet guys who want to see my, my, my toes. So that is such an interesting niche to me because it absolutely exists. I mean, there's wiki feet page out there. We've talked about it before. I have a wiki feet page. I did
Starting point is 00:30:24 not set it up myself guys someone on the internet you don't earn money from it though people are on their rating yeah i get nothing i get nothing but also like it's look you're giving away your toes right now this is what okay every time i'm like featured on the podcast and like i've got my shoes off my husband always screenshots it sends to me and he's like free content he's like we've got mortgages like do something with this do you think that there is room on only fans and like because we hear about it but it's almost like the things of myths and legends so tell us tell us how it really is do you think you could make a lot of money on OnlyFans as someone that's anonymous so you don't know who you are but you're posting feet asking for a friend no I feel like I feel
Starting point is 00:31:04 like this is like for people who are not familiar with the platform like let me say I'm one of them I'm not familiar with the platform but I feel like that there's a lot of like almost get rich schemes on there well that's why I want to ask because that's what we're led to believe we're led down the garden path that like anyone can go on there and make money and make content It's unlikely. Yeah. You'd have to have the most beautiful or the most unique feet in the entire world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Most people that are making big money on OnlyFans are showing their face. Yeah. They have a personality that goes along with the photos. Just feet pics, yeah, you might make a little bit of money. You're going to get rich off it. Is there anything that you've been asked to do on OnlyFans that you have had to say no to? Oh, tons of things. Like what kind of things?
Starting point is 00:31:49 It's just the most disgusting things you can think of, those things. Can you give us an example, like something that pops to mind? I mean, are you sure you want to get in their brains? Yeah. No, we do. We do. We do. I mean, I always find it interesting.
Starting point is 00:32:05 We talk about this accessibility now in terms of OnlyFans. It's been on one hand it's celebrated, on one hand it's demonised. I think that that's probably the porn industry in general in terms of how people view it. I loved when we spoke last time and you spoke about how positive it has been as an experience for you and how much you have enjoyed it because your story is very much in the contrary to the stories that you often hear when it comes to the porn industry and the dark side of it what would be your advice for someone who wants to
Starting point is 00:32:35 get into doing OnlyFans who's thought about it who's you know maybe even like started or set up a page or whatever how would you say for someone who's young thinking about it to kind of progress through this? The first thing I would say is that it is a lot of work. Don't think that just because you're gorgeous that you can take a few photos and you're going to make a lot of money. You have to build your social media presence. You have to market yourself. You have to be on the platform constantly chatting with fans, uploading content. There's so much that goes into a successful account. So if you think it's just going to be this little side hustle, you're going to put up some hot pics and maybe some hot videos and make a ton of money that's just not how it's going to
Starting point is 00:33:19 work look it can happen for some people if there's some scandal surrounding them but it's just so unlikely so if they do want to get into the industry whether it's only fans or studio porn just know that this is something that you should do because you're really into the work you're really excited about expressing and exploring your sexuality on camera and it's something that you'd want to do even if you weren't making a lot of money yeah because I feel like that there's probably people who have kind of bought into the get rich quick scheme and there's probably a lot of content creators that live on OnlyFans who are doing that version they're not doing a lot of it but they've put just enough online that like well okay now there's explicit content of you online
Starting point is 00:34:03 did you do it because you wanted to do it or did you do it because you thought you're going to make money off it and then you didn't make the money and now it's online so then you're left in this kind of gray area of like well what do I do with this rather than it being because this is an industry you absolutely are driven by well when I started there wasn't that much money in porn I didn't make a lot of money when I first started I did it because I really wanted to do it what would have been like a ballpark figure that you would make at the beginning when you started for a porn film like for going and filming one of your scenes or one of your movies like a couple thousand bucks because I think people think that maybe you'd be you'd be making so much money like
Starting point is 00:34:41 $20,000, $30,000, $40,000 per. No, absolutely not. No, I did it because I loved it. It was my passion. I wanted to do it. And I didn't make money for many, many, many years. And I did it just for the love of the game. Did people find it hard to understand that in terms of like,
Starting point is 00:34:58 or were your family and friends and stuff pretty accepting and pretty like, oh, that's Angela? Because I would say that. It was a mix. Yeah, I would say that if you're not making a lot of money from it but you are putting yourself out there in a way that's like, you know, very sexually explorative and also like has the voyeurism aspect where anyone can go online and see it people have opinions yeah yeah it was definitely a mixed bag there were people like
Starting point is 00:35:19 you said that were like oh well that's Angela we always expected her to do that but then people were like firstly why would you do this whether you're making money or not because there was that there still is this sort of idea that oh you'd only get into porn if you were traumatized or if you had no any other options and that just wasn't the case for me it was something that I wanted to do but yeah there are definitely people that were like why would you do it if you're not making a ton of money in terms of the creators that you work with what has been your experience and i guess what i mean is is like when you say people think oh you have to have been traumatized or gone through some really like fucked up family shit or something to want to end up working the
Starting point is 00:35:54 porn industry when you have worked with other creators what has been your assessment of the porn industry the same as every other industry that i've ever worked in like i just like nobody looks at there's no studies done on how many people have been traumatized that go into like the legal profession yeah like become psychiatrists yeah like what what makes you want to become a psychiatrist like what did you go through that now you want to help others in that no it's just it's the same as any other kind of workplace yeah it's so interesting isn't it I mean actually that is like there is lots of stats now that have come out around like people who work in like psychology or therapists often have gotten into the jobs because they've wanted to psychoanalyze like
Starting point is 00:36:34 what it was, their blueprint that they've experienced. There you go. I don't want people to think we just scooted over that. Angela actually has such an interesting story about how, I mean, how you got into the porn industry and the why and the process. And we went into great detail about that in our first episode 18 months ago. So, guys, if you're interested, go and search that. We talk so much about it and I loved it.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Something that I think a lot of people ask and want to know and are curious about is how you manage your relationships in real life. A lot of people don't understand that you might be able to have a monogamous relationship with somebody and do what you do. Where are you at now in your relationship status? And I guess, what have you navigated in the past when you're trying to manage a very successful porn career and a beautiful, intimate, private relationship? I'm dating a couple of people right now, which is nice. I think you'll find every kind of relationship status in porn. Like there are married couples in porn that are monogamous aside from when they're at work. And then there are
Starting point is 00:37:35 people that are polyamorous in the industry and people that are completely open and people that just don't even want a partner that just want to be single and work. So I think that you can kind of build your own relationship style in life. And I think in porn, you have to have partners that are willing to be open to the fact that you are being sexual with people at work. Some people sort of demarcate work sex and home sex I don't so much because my aim in every porn scene is to have genuine connection and chemistry with the people that I'm working with so I can't be like oh don't worry it means nothing at work because I want it to mean something at work but I know other people kind of have this thing where it's like well there's the work sex and then there's
Starting point is 00:38:19 the home sex and that's how they kind of they're different they're very different so in terms of that though how do your partners and assume when you say you're dating a couple of people is polyamory something that is in okay so have you experienced where there is jealousy where they're like okay well if you're at work and you're telling me this means something to you then what does that mean for what we share or is it something now and I guess because you are so open about it and it's not like anyone comes into a relationship with you where it's a surprise but like do you find that sometimes it still rears its head or is it pretty open everyone's you know you're human some people are going to be jealous at certain points but you just try and be
Starting point is 00:38:56 empathetic to the person and try and figure out like where is that jealousy coming from like what's the fear behind it and try and address that fear is it that maybe they're not feeling like they're getting enough attention from me and so it hurts to see me giving someone else attention on screen or am I not giving them enough time do they want more time with me what is it that's actually at the root of it and so that's that's kind of how I try and deal with it do you date other people in the industry uh I try not to but I am but you are now I can see it I try not to just because it makes things more complicated it's been good for me to date people sort of in the industry but not adjacent adjacent right because then they understand the game they
Starting point is 00:39:40 understand what it's like on set like a director or exactly then they get it whereas people that aren't in the industry it is a lot more difficult for them to understand I can I can understand that what it's or like it's just more of an education piece for them to kind of like grapple with okay well what does your like I go to work and I'm an accountant what do you do during the day what's a normal day of work you know yeah and I guess also when you are someone who's not just got a nine to five job when you are working on OnlyFans and you talk about the level of hours and commitment that that takes it's like how do you separate your private life your home life from what is happening online when you kind of have to always be online and be putting the hours in as well how do you
Starting point is 00:40:23 create those boundaries for yourself I will admit I'm the worst person to ask because I don't have a work-life balance but I'm okay with that yeah I'm I'm just actually okay with that because I love my work and you're hustling for yourself you've got your own business exactly so and so So when you say that you're dating a few people now, are you in an open – like are you in a relationship and dating or are you just seeing different people freely? It's more of like – it's not really fully labelled but sort of like an open relationship kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Okay. Yeah. And are any of the people that you date now or have dated not – But it's like what's their name and where they live? No, but are they – I guess a bit more – Give them a shout out. No, but I guess more specifically – it's like that game, guess who? You know how you're like, does he wear a hat?
Starting point is 00:41:08 Does he wear glasses? No, he's like, leave me alone. No, because I think it's a really interesting conversation and I think a lot of people are interested in how you manage it. Are any of the people that you're dating simultaneously in the industry and not in the industry? So like anyone now on your roster of lovers, situationships, partners, whatever they are, are they not in the industry
Starting point is 00:41:31 at the moment? Most are in the industry. Yeah. And one is sort of not. not. And where does he live? Angela, honestly, we could talk to you for ages about this. I really do want to say, like, if you've come to this episode, but didn't listen to the first episode we did with Angela, you absolutely have to, because it was all the nitty gritty. It was everything from double penetration to triple penetration. Sorry, triple, of course. How could
Starting point is 00:41:57 I forget? You've got one. There's three holes. Do you not lower Angela to double penetration? No, but we talked about everything and the nuance of that. And I guess like from this perspective, if you came into this episode, you'd probably be like, but why would you not ask her those questions? So we have in the past. And we did the squirting. We did the triple penetration. We did your education and how you got into it.
Starting point is 00:42:18 There are so many things that we covered in that. Do you really orgasm in sex or is it fake? It's a fascinating, fascinating interview. But don't just go and listen to it. Go and watch it on YouTube. Both of these are going to be on YouTube. Yeah, absolutely. Angela, it's always an absolute delight to have you.
Starting point is 00:42:31 we will have you back anytime thank you next time we'll have some more sort of questions for you yeah i want another sexy one okay we can do that thank you so much for having me

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