Life Uncut - Is Your Husband Jealous of Your Best Friend? Uncut with Vogue Williams

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

Joining the podcast today is the hilarious Vogue Williams! Vogue is a radio and TV personality, DJ, Model, comedian with an asterisks and host of the podcast My Therapist Ghosted Me! We’ve previously had Vogue’s podcast co-host Joanne McNally on before and it was one of our favourite episodes to date!  In this chat we talk about:-How Vogue met and works with her husband.-Whether Spencer struggles with jealousy over the success of Vogue's other podcast with her best friend Joanne.-Young divorce and getting back into the dating game!-Vogue's time living in Australia You can catch up on our episode with Joanne McNally here! Follow Vogue's Instagram & you can check out My Therapist Ghosted Me's tour here! If you have a question please send it on it to life uncut podcast on Instagram hereJoin us on tiktok Or join the facebook group here Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! xx  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands were never ceded. We pay our respects to their elders past and present. Always was, always will be Aboriginal land. This episode was recorded on Darug Walamutta land. Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. I'm Brittany. Today we're interviewing the absolutely wonderful Vogue Williams, who's one half of My Therapist Ghosted Me, the podcast we absolutely love. Oh my God, we are obsessed.

She hosts that with Joanne McNally, who is a comedian. We've done an episode with her a couple of months ago now, I think. Also, when we interviewed Joanne McNally, she is so fucking funny. So Vogue is like her sister wife, just like you are my sister wife. Exactly. And they're about to land in Australia. I think when this is out, maybe next week or in the coming days, they're doing a whole tour here. so if you this is not sponsored by the tour but if you haven't got tickets like they are just incredible we are big fans we love them so go get tickets we're going to watch them as well we're going to catch up with them while we're here i'm really pumped about this episode yeah they're at the state theater as well they've sold out two shows at the state theater have they which is ridiculous it is mind-blowing but i cannot wait to go and watch it now this chat is such a light

and fun and vibrant conversation now one of the things i love about vogue is her relationship with her husband, Spencer. They also have another podcast, which is called Aptly, Vogue and Spencer. And she recently did live shows with her husband as well. So Vogue talks about what it is like working alongside her husband, how they navigate having a relationship, but also having a work relationship side by side, whether or not he's jealous of the relationship and the success that she's found with Joanne, because it must be quite hard when you already have a podcast, it's already doing well and then your wife starts a podcast with someone else and it does better oh absolutely it would make you a bit too like the live shows would be bigger and better it'd be

a hard pill to swallow but he seems like a really cool person so i think he's doing just fine but we also talk about divorcing young because vogue has gone through a divorce she's lived in australia so we talk about that we just touch on a bunch of stuff yeah and the thing i loved about this as well as vogue is a mom to three kids and she manages to juggle such an incredibly successful career alongside that. And so it's how she manages to juggle it all at the same time. Let's get into the chat with Vogue. Vogue Williams is a radio and TV personality, a DJ, a model. She's not going to refer to herself as this, but quote unquote comedian and the host of the podcast, My Therapist Ghosted Me, which is one of our absolute favorites. We've previously had Vogue's

co-host on the podcast. You guys all might remember her, the very funny, the very amazing Joanne McNally. It was one of our, I don't want to put the pressure on you Vogue, but it was one of our favorite eps. We just loved it so much. And we're so stoked that you could finally get up at the crack of dawn to join us on Life Uncut. So welcome. Thank you. I'm delighted to be here. And yes, Joanne is a tough actor to follow. She's very funny all the time and she is an actual comedian. I know. How does that, I mean, before we get into the actual interview, how does that feel when people say you're a comedian, but then you're going to go onto a show, but you're not actually a comedian but you're still funny do you feel like the extra pressure because we feel that

as well when someone's like oh you're doing a comedy show we're like no we're like it's skittish but like hopefully we say something that's funny but like it's not going to be on purpose so like let's just see how it turns out yeah I'm in your camp you see it's not on purpose I don't know how to do it on purpose I'm like I've always said to Joanne my worst job would be being a comedian it gives me the fear thinking about like going on stage and waiting for someone to laugh and now that's kind of what I'm doing but like mine and Joanne's show there is a lot of pressure because people like expect it to be like funny all the time because Joanne's funny all the time but there's less pressure with mine and my husband's show because we do a show together as well

so that's kind of a little bit easier for me and I'm way funnier than him as well so it's grand so perfect well you also you need the yin and the yang as well like and it's kind of nice when you've got I mean I feel like sometimes that's us with like with you if you've got someone who's got those like one-liner zingers you need the other person in there to set up the zingers too though hang on am I the one-liner you're the zingers oh yeah I will do the setup you do the zing yeah you and Joanne you have the My Therapist Ghosted Me podcast which is very funny if you guys haven't listened to it and you are doing the live shows where you're not a comedian as such but you just started with your husband Spenny you just started doing proper stand-up comedy shows

like as in last week yes how did that go knowing it was a you're a comedian now like you have to call yourself a comedian you did a stand-up show we did do it part of the show is stand-up and actually it's like when you're a little bit more prepared it's not that bad but uh but doing shows with my husband is slightly different because like he's learning as well because I was learning off Joanne so I went on and I was like I didn't know like what to do and like it was a first time thing and he did it and like after the first night I was like no no no no no I was like we can't do this all the time and so now he's actually he's really good we have a director who directed him what was he doing that you had to be like please don't ever do that again well there was two things

actually thanks for asking I'm very interested one one he was standing in front of me the whole time on stage you're like Spenny you got one rule don't block the vision I was like sit to even during the show I was like sit down sit down Sveno sit down and he wasn't picking up on my cue and then the second thing was he was uh constantly talking over me which is a real bad habit of his anyway in life so I was like stop talking over me Sveni but yeah he learned his lesson after that night that did not go so well well Vogue something we do with all of our guests we call it an accidentally unfiltered story it's your most embarrassing story and I am very excited to hear what yours is mine okay I told this on our podcast about two years ago so it's kind of

disappeared now and I'm not sure why I'm bringing it back up mainly because like you have all those embarrassing stories you know when my worst thing like and it happens almost daily is when you wave at someone because you think they're waving at you and they're not waving at you and you're just like oh fuck and you're just looking at them like damn it and you keep waving but I feel like everyone kind of has that so the worst thing that ever happened to me in my life I'm not even joking it was so bad so spenny spenny and i were in our bedroom doing things that married couples do and it was on a saturday night and my brother and my sister and stuff were having a party downstairs with their friends and all of a sudden the door burst open and my little brother came

straight into the room and made eye contact with spenny while we were doing shit and uh yeah it was honestly one of the it was you'd only feel physically sick because you're like oh my god I'll never get over this ever it was the most embarrassing thing firstly two crucial pieces of information here Vogue that you skimmed over how old is your little quote-unquote little brother and B what position were you in that was where my mind went to yeah I really wish I was having sex But I wasn't having sex It would have been so It would have been

So much better Are we talking like 69? No No thank god God No Spenny was going down on me Oh it's even worse

Oh and Spenny made the eye contact Spenny popped up Made the eye contact With the brother Who is nearly 30 Jesus Christ It's when he used to live with us and he obviously didn't realise we had boundaries.

I don't know. I mean, we've had some pretty fucking bad embarrassing stories. I don't think I've ever had second-hand embarrassment though before. I don't think I've ever heard a story that's made my entire vagina recoil like into itself. Oh, no, it's like the desert. It's back inside my uterus. It's dried up.

The prolapse is gone. Mine turned into a raisin after that. I was like never, ever touch me again. It was the worst. Do you have to address that after the fact? Like you go back downstairs to the party? We didn't go to the party. I was texting him and at the time he was laughing

and I was like, it's not funny, Alzo. And then the next day when he'd sobered up, he was really off with me and I was off with him. And the offness went on for about six months because we just, we couldn't find a way through. It was just, it was just, I was like, why couldn't I have been having sex? Oh, and by the way, I was nine months pregnant at the time.

Nine months. Dear God. That's when you're your horniest. it's the story that keeps on going is this like a I'm just trying to get my head around this party too and I hope it wasn't this is this like a royal family party or like the like what level part who's are we at the palace here or are we at your home we're definitely not at the palace we're at our home and like we've got two levels so like we'd always stay up on our own level this has never been a problem before he'd obviously had a few drinks and thought you know I'll just let

myself in and he did do that and now we have a different relationship ever since it's never fully recovered he had to move out don't they say time heals all just give it a little bit more it's been a couple of years now it's been a couple of years now and I say I should probably give some context there I say the royal family because Spenny's got a royal family connection so by default you're basically royal oh thank you okay I'll take that I don't know if the Irish will be happy about that but okay yeah so just for those playing at home this is the this is the connection why I say it's a royal family so let's talk about you and Joanne I think to set up with because our audience knows Joanne we love her how did you two meet because you have one of I mean from our

perspective one of the most successful popular podcasts in the UK you just won your award at the podcast awards so huge congratulations how did you two meet I don't think we actually got that info from Joanne so we met we were we were like we were at 17 and you know you have your like group of friends so we had this big huge group of friends we always used to party together but Joanne and I were never close in the group of friends so we hadn't become close and then I heard she was doing comedy over here and she was like like when you start doing comedy she was doing these shows that was she was basically having to work for free so she'd no money and she was going up and down the country because like she seriously paid her dues that girl I think

people think that she just came on the comedy scene but she was just yeah she was doing all these really like tough gigs up down the country for no money and nowhere to live so I had a spare room at the time and luckily she does have boundaries so she doesn't like let herself in and uh and I asked her to stay with me and we didn't have like neither of us had that many friends in London so we were like oh now we've got each other and then we just like we're kind of best friends from then how did the podcast itself come to be because at the time you already had your podcast with your husband and then you decided to embark I mean not that you had enough work to do already but you decided to embark on this new project how did that come up as an idea

so I did the party with Sven that was the first one that I'd ever done and I love podcasting like it's just it's so much fun and the company we do our podcast with we're like if you have any other ideas for a podcast please bring it to us first and Joanne was living in the basement at the time my basement is is never empty joanne's kind of in and out of the basement at the moment alexander the brother is thinking of moving back soon for a while so that'd be interesting i'll be locking my doors but so she was living downstairs and i was like to her do you want to give it a go we see if like we could do a podcast together because we we loved hanging out with each other so much and then and then we went in and it just kind of worked because you know you do pods with

people sometimes and they just don't work yeah and that's just the even like with guests you're like oh yeah luckily did have you ever I know you don't do a lot of guests but have you ever done a guest where you felt like that where you've done that you've been excited for it and then you've been like I don't think we can release that I've had it's not I've had co-hosts because Fanny was away that they were all good in their own way but like you kind of you know and you ramble over each other the whole time and it just didn't work out but we've only had one guest it's hard to get guests that's why I think it's amazing that you girls do guests because Joanne and I just drive our producer mental trying to even fit in a time for us like she's in Canada I'm here where

is she going to be so we drive our producer mental too she's sitting here as well so she she's sitting here there throwing you looks she is she is how do you guys I mean with that in mind when you do have such hugely different schedules and I think it's one of the things like with Brit and I when we became friends and started our podcast we were in such different life phases like I've got kids, Brit was in the single dating game at the time. And we were not only navigating different schedules, but we were different, different like life stages. How do the two of you make that work when you're often just in different countries and you're doing different shows and there's so much on the cards? The great thing is that you can podcast from anywhere in

the world. Like I prefer, as I'm sure you two do, prefer just doing it like when you're in the same spot, because you'll never get something better than when you're together. It's so easy. It's so much better um so she's in Canada at the moment and it kind of works out perfectly because I love getting up early and she likes not getting up early so wherever she is it seems like that her time zone is good so like I'll do it today when she's like actually it is earlier for her today it's like 12 o'clock or something in the day so it kind of has worked out really well but when she was in Australia it was the dream because obviously you're so far ahead by the way what time is it there because I'd forgotten about the time difference it's 5 p.m and what time is it

where you are it's 7 20 but I never thought because we're going over to you and I never I kind of forgot about the time difference because I lived in Australia I love Australia yeah I mean tell us about that how long ago were you in Australia it must have been it was uh it was in my previous marriage and it was probably it's probably about six years ago where are you living are you two in Sydney or Melbourne or Brisbane? We're like Bondi beach. We're as Sydney as it gets. Like, I can't wait to do that walk in Tamarama. Like I know it's such a tourist thing, but I'm like, I can't wait to do that. It's not even though. I do it every day. Yeah. It's just so nice. It's so beautiful. And like, even when you live in this area,

you never actually get sick of doing it, but I want to go back a bit. So when you started your podcast with Joanne and you already had an established and successful podcast with your husband was there ever a moment where he was like fuck like I mean now your podcast is doing better than our podcast like was there ever any jealousy was he supportive the whole time like how did that go down for the two of you he is definitely super supportive but I think when we did our first live show which was at a festival like a lot of people showed up and he didn't like I didn't think anyone would show up because I was like we're at a festival maybe no one will come and then he was like I want to do that and I was like okay so that was the end he was like I want to go on stage and

I want to do electric picnic I was like okay well like why don't we work on a stage set together but for the most part he is like super successful because I've been in those relationships where you know someone's a bit shitty about stuff and it's just it's it gets worse and it gets worse and worse and worse whereas like with him he just has his own shit going on and it's the same with Joanne she just has her own shit going on that's completely separate to to even the stuff that I want to do because I don't want to be on stage being a comedian it's too terrifying and she doesn't want to really do tv presenting so we have our own areas it's very handy how do you go with I heard something you said the other day on your podcast when I think it was when

you won the awards and the the article that was written off the back of it you were like I almost don't want to do this shit anymore I don't want to I don't want to go to these ceremonies I don't want to go and do any um tv hosting or anything like that because of the trolls and the comments and the clickbait that come off the back of it do you actually read all that do you read all the comments on like the daily mail and the the uk sun and joanne and i were just laughing about this because like i try not to read them and my mom will ring me she's like don't listen to those awful things they're saying about the paper and i'm like mom like stop telling me this shit and then I'm like right now I have to go look and I look and I'm like oh fuck that's really mean

no kidding I never read anything and one of the girls like Laura or our producer Keisha will come and say like just don't even worry about what they said like forget about it and I'm like what the fuck did they say and then I have to go and find it I wouldn't have even known but also I think when you're in it I mean I think this anyway when I'm in it I kind of think oh everybody must be thinking these things everybody must be reading this stuff but then you actually step off the internet go and touch grass for five minutes and you realize no one no one cares no one cares as much as you care and no one has read or is actually in touch they might have gotten like this much of the story and they know a little bit but they don't actually care as much as you do anyway

do you get that from your podcast though they pick up things that you've said you're like god it sounds so much worse when it's written down and you're like oh shit laura's had some absolute bangers like completely taken completely taken out of context just like the headlines about like Laura loves a pinky and the stinky or like I think I once said that was you she's like that was you I read that I once said everyone likes a pinky and stinky and that doesn't look good written down it does not I'd just given birth at the time as well and it really it really fucking permeated the news that one and I remember my mum calling me and she was like really do you need to say these things and I was like you know what mum it's okay I think I said

other things in context but look you know I still stand by it I reckon most people do let's get that back out there it's gonna be Laura Byrne doubles down on the pinky and the stinky fair so fair try the pinky and the stinky it's amazing that like it's when your mom reads the stuff it's the worst like and if I like and Spenny's mom listens to our podcast and I'm like oh Jesus I just hope she doesn't listen to my therapist because I just wouldn't if she does she doesn't mention it and that's okay you know she's a hundred percent listening though I know I know I know like my mom's not even allowed to come to our live show I'm like sorry mom you just can't come I'm like no way there's no more tickets we've sold out yeah you can't come mom I don't

have any guests for you yeah do you know the one thing I always think whenever I see your Instagram or I see what you're up to and as a mom myself I have two kids and I run you know multiple businesses but I see what you do and I always think how on earth do you manage it all how do you manage the live shows how do you manage being a mom of three kids and still I mean you're a fitness goals you are doing the swipe up swipe ups like you've got so many things happening in your world and it seems like you manage them all incredibly some days I manage them well some days I don't like that's why I said to you I was like I gotta go today I'm bringing the kids to school because I don't like tomorrow I'm away and hers I'm away so I kind of main thing is always the kids then

trying to fit work in but they're in school and nursery now so like they're kind of gone for a of the day the smallest naps as well also naps so uh I don't know I always have mom guilt I think you'll always have it like it doesn't matter what I'm doing in a week I'll always be like oh god I should have like been here more for that but I do spend a lot of time with my kids I'm very lucky that I don't have a nine-to-five but it's a lot of organization I suppose and not just on my part like my manager's really organized she kind of we figure out my diary together so that like I've enough time with my family and stuff probably not enough time with my friends but that's the that's the third thing on my list well I feel like your business partner happens to be one of

your best friends as well so like you yeah you're working when you're doing your podcasting and your live shows but you feel like you're filling your cup with a sort of a friend hit at the same time even though it's like it's different you're not out drinking and not doing it but you're like okay that's my friend hit for the week yeah do you kind of ignore each other for the whole week until you're doing the pod because we have to do that so we don't tell each other no every time we go to say something where Laura be like oh my god I have to tell you I'll be like save it yeah that's what we do though otherwise you blow your load with all your good stories and then you get on podcast and you're like oh you're faking your reaction to this so we don't tell each other

anything about what's happening in our lives and then we show up and we're like but I mean one thing I wanted to ask you about I mean you touched on earlier that you were living in Australia in your previous marriage in your previous life yeah previous life definitely you went through a divorce quite young and we were speaking about this concept and Radha mentioned it recently how she was like making young divorce chic again how was that experience when you come out of a divorce and you've got to go into the dating world did you feel as though you had to kind of get back on the horse was it challenging to get back into dating after being divorced or were you just like I'm ready I think I was pretty I was pretty ready to get back into dating but I had to learn I think

divorce is really embarrassing I don't think anyone like really mentions that and it shouldn't be embarrassing but like I felt like huge embarrassment because I guess a couple of people had told me that I probably shouldn't be getting married that young and I was young I was like 26 and in hindsight I probably shouldn't have been getting married that young but I felt really embarrassed and then after I had gotten divorced I kind of did take a bit of time to myself because I wanted that time like I've never just dated I'd gone from one really long relationship to another long relationship and then I had a little break and now I'm in another long relationship. So I think I should have been more datey and like spread my wings a bit more, but now

it's too late. I'm married again. So I would say, yeah, I would say if you're single, spread your wings more. Learn from me. When it was coming to the end of that relationship, do you feel like when you were saying divorce is embarrassing, do you feel like you stayed for longer than you wanted to, or you knew the relationship wasn't right, but you thought I would rather try and make something wrong work than admit quote-unquote failure and put myself back out there I think you're either like that in a relationship or you're not so Joanne and I have spoken about this and it's not just in that relationship it's kind of in every relationship it's always like the long goodbye you're like no we're breaking up and then you're not breaking up no we're breaking up and

you're not like I'm a big fan of the long goodbye I think it's really admirable when people are just like see you later and then that's it and it's probably see ya it's so much better to just be like that I feel like uh Spenna would kind of be like that once something's over it's over and I think that's that's a much better way to do it than dragging it out it's like but Joanne I don't know it's I'm not going to say it's a female thing but myself and Joanne definitely do that like the long goodbye I don't know why we do it I'm a long goodbye oh really I thought you okay remember my ex yeah that's true now I think about it I agree with this but I also think it comes down to like this conditioning around hope like it's really hard for people who have the ability to cut

something off and walk away yeah they're not even worried about entertaining well what if things could be different whereas like I feel like for me in my past relationships the long goodbye has always been like but one more chance and maybe it'll be better one more chance and they can never fucking is but you're like I need to bury this 10 foot into the ground before I am confident it's not going to get better but there's also the sunk cost fallacy like this idea of but I've put so much time in like I've already invested so much into this relationship surely I don't just walk away and and it was for nothing like surely like we should walk away run run away just put it in a box and run that's what like I just think I like because I've seen it like and I've seen people

break up even over the last year and two of them are real like done and that's it and it's just it makes so much more sense like they're out they're dating they're happy they're not seeing what the other oh and also like delete any any traces of them from your social media like you just become obsessed with like, what are they up to? What are they up to? And that kind of adds to the long goodbye. When you met Spencer, what was that like? How did you meet firstly? And how did you get to a point where you were like, I'm ready to give this round two? Ding, ding. With Spenny, I'll tell you what, I met Spenny on a TV show. How like unromantic. They got married on a TV show, Laura and her husband. Oh, I love it. We're so alive.

We met on The Bachelor. My husband was The Bachelor and I was one of the 24 sister wives. yeah so it's a wild I get it don't worry babe TV shows they work oh my god that's amazing is it and also you were number one out of 24 I won the best prize and that was my husband but yeah oh my god The Bachelor in Australia Sven he did The Bachelor before as well did he why do all our partners why are we all into The Bachelor yeah yeah yeah I actually haven't seen it was a long time ago but I uh I didn't meet him on The Bachelor I met him on a TV show called The Jump and I remember meeting him but like he showed up and he was kind of like still pissed from the night before and like I had done all this work with my therapist about like how I was figuring

myself out where I was going wrong and I was like I definitely don't want to like be with this guy but I left and I rang my friends two of my gay friends they fancied Spenny and they're like oh you have to get with him and I was like no honestly like I'm not but like he is so cool that like I reckon we're gonna all end up hanging out together because like I just thought he was so sound and I really wanted to like actually just be mates with him and then uh four vodkas later there we were oh it came on four vodkas on like the day you met no no no no no no no not the day we met which there's nothing wrong with but not the day we met so we had to go skiing in this little weird place because it was a ski show and then we went and we were staying in this rotten hotel in austria for

six weeks together so it happened over there wait so you guys actually got together on the tv show as in like it was part of the storyline of the tv show no no no no no because obviously I was desperately trying to hide the fact that I was going out with somebody and I didn't want to go out with anyone in the public eye because and we actually weren't going out together because he didn't want to be in a relationship I didn't want to be in a relationship I wanted to date around because I hadn't done it I'd been in relationships for like 10 years 11 years at that stage so we tried to just not be together but we always ended up being together and then eventually we were like okay let's just be together because we just keep ending up there anyway so

that's kind of how that happened when you both have public profiles and you've obviously been through a public facing relationship in the past how do you then navigate that the second time around and like figure out what parts of your relationship you're going to share what you're not going to share like what is off limits like did you the two of you ever have a considered conversation about that or has it just been something that you've organically kind of figured out I think we just kind of organically figured it out like Svenny is one of those people as well like he doesn't give a shit what anyone thinks about him and he genuinely doesn't like he could read thousands of daily mail article comments about himself like that were awful and he'd be

like I don't care it would mean nothing to him and he's in like I kind of have taken some of that from him as well where you're just like you know I don't care I want to not give a shit like I'm happy with everything around me who cares about the background noise but with regards to our relationship no I don't we never sat down had a conversation but like you know what's private and what's not private and what you share and you don't share but like we have a podcast so we probably share way too much what kind of find as well like you think you're like I'm never gonna share that and then the exposure happens so like over time you start sharing more and more like the things that you think you were never gonna share two years ago versus what you share now

you're like oh yeah the benchmark has moved babe whoops we did it again I just think though if you're gonna do a podcast like you can't kind of censor yourself you have to I'd rather say everything and then I listen back to to the edits of mtgm and the edits of mine with spenny and like I'll go through it then and if something sounds like really really terrible or if like something's gone on too long in a conversation like I would do it that way but like I wouldn't censor myself because I feel like it's still it's a conversation do you feel like you've increased in like arguments and fighting since you work together and live together and are married and we're always in each other's pockets we actually you know we actually don't spend as much time together as

people think we do because he has all his own stuff going on so we do our podcast together but that's kind of like the only capacity we work in at the moment and so he has all his he does his own podcasts as well he's a couple of other podcasts and he has a business and stuff so he's out of the house a lot during the day and I'm off doing my own thing so we've loads of time apart which I think is very important in a relationship yeah says me whose boyfriend lives in Scotland so I'm like, yeah, time of heart is super important. Oh, my God, stop. Yeah.

Where? He lives in Glasgow. Oh, he plays for Celtic. They're an Irish team originally, aren't they? Oh, I don't know. Aren't they Celtic football club? I don't know anything about football. I don't know.

Okay. Neither. I don't know. I thought as a patriotic Irish woman you might know that. No, he lives over in Scotland, yeah, so the time of heart is very important. But it's also one of those things where, like, when you say you don't care about what's out there anymore and you'd rather be honest,

it's really difficult for me to manage that because like for Laura and Matt they're both in the public eye in that sense and they're both very funny and they take the piss and it's their real character yeah but my partner's not in the world like that like he's in sport he wants to be private he's never been written about in his life other than sport and all of a sudden I'm saying these things he's not saying them but every article is about oh no I know something sexy and it's really hard to manage because it's not his world also that whole you know taking things out of the verbal and putting it in the written just doesn't go down well because she sends me an article and he's like wow and I'm like oh my god I'm so sorry we get that with friends they're like

stop talking about us on the podcast I'm like oh god sorry and my sister we always say things about her and she's like someone tell me what you said did you say this about me I'm like no just don't listen to it just don't listen here yeah don't listen you're fine did you always want to be a mom because having three kids in such quick succession it's like rapid fire during covid something happened there and we were the same I always find it so interesting if that was a natural calling or if you once you became a mom realized how much you loved it always a natural calling I was one of those kids that like always I never had barbies I always had dolls I was always like I was asking for ironing boards for Christmas and

stuff like that I looked after my brother when he was born because he's nine years younger than me and uh I always loved it but the reason for the quick succession right and it sounds so stupid now because it is stupid I was basically like I want to have four kids and I don't want to be pregnant when I'm 40 so I've got to do it like bam bam bam and then I did a bam bam bam and I was like whoa this is like so full-on and now I'm like maybe I don't want a fourth child like and I've just done bam bam bam but it made sense at the time and like I suppose when you're in it like one child feels like a lot two is really manageable because you just get used to it but someone was like to me when you have three they just slot in three does not slot in three

definitely doesn't slot in ever are you listening laura i think i was surprised by the jump from one to two like the jump from one to two it rocked me and it took me a while but it also comes down to the kid like if the kid's a good sleeper if they're a good eater if they're all those things it's more manageable yeah if you get a unicorn baby great if you get a terrible kid that's not they're not terrible but you know they don't do any of the things it's like you want to turn them off and reset yeah they're terrible I got a broken it just makes everything so much harder and I I mean what was it for you when you were like I want four children where did that number come from I suppose because I have three other siblings and there was always four of us and we all got on so

well and we all like and even watching T and Gigi and JJ they love each other they play so much and I just really wanted like that big nice family vibe but three feels like a big nice family vibe I'll be honest so do you think you'll go fourth or now you think you're just gonna sit on three I'm still suction bagging clothes so I don't know if I'm saving clothes for like a baby why do I need them so I don't know I'm gonna make my mind up by the end of next summer and then make a decision and then I'll be able to get rid of so much crap like all the baby stuff that you have like I can't wait to like give that to friends and stuff like that and give it to my brother who won't help out with the kids between seven and seven he can have it and then i won't

help out with the kids between seven and seven let's talk about one of your businesses you have a non-alcoholic spirit brand that's spenna so that's what he goes off and does yeah yeah he's a non-alcoholic okay so it's not combined it's just his oh i mean i will own 50 at some stage well what was the motivation behind that because you just mentioned before when you met spencer you know it was the next day and he was drunk like obviously he loved his alcohol so where did this whole idea of having a non-alcoholic brand come from so he was a really really big big drinker uh when we first met i wouldn't personally say he was an alcoholic he just had a really bad relationship with alcohol and then he decided to take a couple of years off drinking to begin with

and uh because i don't ever think it's good to put a number on it because then you're kind of like setting yourself up to fail just do it for as long as you can and he started working on this business because there was nothing for him to drink. So he was like, I have to go out and have like six Cokes in a night and I just don't want to be drinking that. And so he came up with Clean Coke, which is basically non-alcoholic gin. They have whiskey, they have tequila. The tequila is amazing and vodka. So basically you just mix it with whatever you mix it with. Tonic obviously for the gin and it just tastes like an alcoholic drink. So he feels like he's drinking. Is he still not drinking? Like, is he still off alcohol? And that's kind of like his current

lifestyle? Sorry, my dog just walked by. Yeah, that's his current lifestyle. My dog walked by and I saw him in like the mirror of this table. I was like, what is that? Yeah, he still does that. But like, I'm not a massive, massive drinker either. I tend to drink maybe like two or three times a month. I just don't really like the taste of alcohol. So I suppose that makes it a little bit easier. I'm trying to do Sober October now because I absolutely kicked the shit out of myself on Friday with booze. So I'm trying to behave myself now. You're coming to Australia in November for your tour with Joanne for My Therapist Goes To Me I feel like you need to get your Sober October out before then because I have a sneaky suspicion you're gonna be you're gonna be

sinking a few drinks when you're in Australia I'm definitely gonna be I can't wait because I haven't been there in so long and like I want to go back to all the places that I used to go to and just to be able to go to so many different cities over there and yeah I'll definitely be drinking because I've got friends from years ago still over in Sydney so like I'll be meeting up with them and and I just want to go out and have fun. Sydney's great for a night out as well. Do you find as well, like with the live shows that you attract like the biggest expat community that comes to these shows, like as in all of our Irish people that are here in Sydney are just so excited to come. Cause I know that I feel like over the last sort of six months,

My Therapist Goes To Me has absolutely blown up here across the board within Australia as well. It's not just the expat community, but I feel like you would have some diehards who it for them as like a little piece of home yeah yeah there's definitely people from arnold because we all do that like it's kind of a rite of passage you get to the age of 18 you might go to college if you don't go to college you go to australia backpacking for a year and obviously us the australians have always welcomed the irish in and so they go and they're like oh my god like this place is amazing and lots of them stay and so there's a big huge community out there and we such a fun audience as well like everyone is just up for a laugh and like they're just really great

crack and that's another reason like when you go on stage which you two will know is that you just like you can't really just go home straight after because you're not going to fall asleep because you're so wired because you're so excited from the show so uh yeah I'm definitely gonna drink in Australia I'll have to say we went to Joanne's show when she was here yeah and it was a sea of Irish like yeah see and every Irish person I knew messaged me saying like you have to come to you have to get tickets to this show and I was like yeah bro we just we just interviewed her on the podcast but it was the community here that loves you guys is astronomical but I feel like Laura said before the Aussie community here that loves you guys is growing tenfold like we need to

actually you know what let's not release this they don't need any more we actually don't want them to take over what do you reckon for you and Joanne I mean obviously you guys have an amazing friendship but what do you think is the secret sauce to your success and what has made it really stand out in a sea of podcasts? I honestly can't answer that I don't really know I think that like it's just it's because people listening just feel like they're sitting having a drink with their mates I suppose and that's the kind of whole vibe to it and Joanne and I sit and we just laugh laugh laugh like the whole time we're doing the podcast together and I know when we're having fun that it will be fun to listen to and I think that we're just really enjoying it and really enjoying spending

in that time together and and creating the podcast but like I genuinely don't know I think it gets to the point where you feel like you're almost sisters more than friends or business partners like you get to know each other so well yeah and you work together so closely which is why I was going to say to you do you guys ever argue disagree or like we'll have a little bicker about something because obviously you have you're always going to have different opinions on things that's life but we work it out like sisters and we it's actually pretty funny and then within like 20 minutes where it looks like nothing ever happened we're kind of the same we're like a six minute argument might happen with the last one we had was it would have been may last year

over a video drum was like we're not putting that video out i hate the way i look in that video and i was like uh but we need to have videos and she goes you're not the boss and i was like you're not the boss and then it was literally it was it was literally like about a six minute argument but we like generally we kind of agree on the same kind of stuff like we agree on like on what we're gonna host read on the pod and everything like that like in general we do agree but if we have a little argument it's like a six minute one and joanne's literally like if we ever argue like properly i'm taking us to couples therapy i'm like joanne i think we're okay i think we're gonna get there also if you do end up in couples therapy fucking amazing content perfect it's a

full circle for you guys just go there anyway isn't that bad when something like that happens and you're like oh well content yeah I think people actually forget about that that you do put so much content out that sometimes when you're feeling like really I don't want to say down but like you're boring right you're at a boring part of your life there's no content it was not that long ago that Laura was in Bali well it might have been last year she walked past this place and she took a picture of the sign and she sent it to me just like thoughts and it was like to get your vagina steamed i was like i'll do it i was like i was like sign up right now we've got nothing going this week i would just like to reiterate if you guys haven't heard that story it was not

a fucking vagina steaming it was an insertion and it was not what i signed up for they put something in instead of like a nice yoni's team so you know how you can get those facials where it zaps you and it contracts your skin to try and tighten your face it's that but it goes inside your vagina it's called a vaginal ozonizer and anyway look that was a real gift that kept on giving well speaking of that you're doing a sex show right now is that right I saw you and Joanne doing like this sex adventure throughout Ibiza Ibiza Ibiza I never know what that is I love the way the Australians say Ibiza Ibiza I know and I can tell how crazy Ibiza is more like English Ibiza

We say Ibiza in Ireland And we went That was like a year ago And we went on like this Like sexual journey together And we did one of those The only scenes But not like something

Shoved up Which sounds very unpleasant You haven't lived Well I Have you ever had those Tampons that you get So after you have a baby Like when you're trying to

Like get yourself Back in nice order And like It's like these tampons That you put in And they basically like Not electrocute you But like

A nicer word than that But kind of the same thing Yeah i think that's what this is i mean like yeah so it's like a thing but it's not a tampon it's connected to a machine and it's like softly buzzing inside you to try and like reignite your pelvic floor apparently you meant to do it all the time so i just went ahead one treatment it did nothing but look i fell asleep and it was quite enjoyable so i'm not gonna complain you had a really nice time like oh yeah you're asking me about avita no so we went and filmed

that it was quite funny it was it was interesting getting tied up and spanked by joanne so in case you haven't seen it they Joanne and Vogue went and did this whole like wellness sexual journey yeah what do you think if anything like what was your biggest takeaway from your sexcapade sex journey in Ibiza from the sexcapade I feel like we're a couple of people who can't really be arsed like I want to I want to have really good sex but like I can't be arsed spending like 45 minutes having someone tie me up like I just can't it's too much there's bits that I'd like to do, like if we're going to do tying up, like just grab the, I don't know, the thing from the bathrobe and we'll do it like that. But I'm not spending half an hour or 45 minutes being tied

up because it's so unsexual by then that you're just like, fuck this. I'm not even turned on anymore. When you've got three kids and several businesses, like who has the fucking time when you could be sleeping? Like all you need, missionary, get it done, get it over and go to bed and everyone's happier for it. Any longer than three minutes. It's like, God, babe, What the fuck are you doing? Hurry up. I'm time. Well, Vogue, tell everyone what cities you're hitting

for your My Therapist Goes To Me tour when you come with Jo in November and where people can get tickets. We've already bought ours. I was hoping you'd send us like a – You better not have bought any. We did. We'll be there at the Sydney show. Yeah, we contributed a lot of money.

We'll book you in for some drinks. We'll do some celebrations while you're here. Let's defo go out in Sydney. God, I wouldn't even know where it's good in Sydney anymore. Why do we – I'm a fucking old man. I don't go anywhere, but we'll find it. Don't worry.

We'll find it and we'll hit it hard. It sounds like we're not going to find it. We're going to kick the shit out of Sydney. We're going to find it. I have not found it in a long time, but I will look for it thoroughly. We'll find you somewhere. But, no, tell everyone about the show. Oh, stop.

Okay, so we're doing Perth, amazing, 11th of November, Sydney, the 15th of November, and the 16th, Melbourne. I was going to say Belfast, Melbourne. And we've just added Brisbane, which is amazing because we didn't think we were going to be able to get the theatre there. So it wasn't on the first one of shows. And now we've added Brisbane, which is going to be great crack.

No, we're super pumped. We've got our tickets. The three of us are coming, producer Keisha, Laura and myself. We absolutely can't wait. I tried to go to your show in London recently for two reasons. One, I wanted to obviously have a great night out. But two, I selfishly wanted to do some due diligence on what your guys' live shows were like before we did our live show.

I did that to people. Did you? Yeah, of course you have to go. see you at the pod shows well we're gonna love you and leave you we'll see you in November and everyone head over to my therapist goes to me if you want to follow them or you want to go to the live show thank you and let's kick the shit out of Sydney when we get there yeah fuck yeah far out I just love them you couldn't get two cooler people besides Laura and myself you could not get you can't get said by two people who are particularly uncool no I have a lot of

time for them I really love them and I love that what they're about and if you guys haven't maybe you missed the episode with Joanne McNally, which is the other half. We will link that in the show notes if you want to go back and give that a listen. But I promise you, you'll leave that episode feeling better and it's really good just to sit back, kick back and have a laugh. Yeah, exercise some pelvic floor muscles because, yeah, you'll definitely wet your pants.

And Ask Uncut is coming tomorrow and we'll see you then. Love you, honey. You know the drill. Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friends and share the love because we love love. great job Brett I like that you just decided to check out

I purposely looked at you and let you hang in so you can do what you're doing fine bye