Life Uncut - Jungle fever - Britt's is back baby!

Episode Date: April 28, 2024

Britt is back baby! There are always so many questions about what happens 'behind the scenes' on any reality TV show & in today's episode, Britt answered a big bunch of your questions, truthfully!... We unpack: How 'time' and filming worked in the jungle (on camera/off camera) How the food situation worked and what affect it had on each of them What happens for the women on their period Her realisations about having children in the future What it was like to not have a phone for a month Fights inside the camp Contraband  How much they got paid Who played up for the cameras Who was the best and worst in camp You can watch us on Youtube If you have an question please send it on it to life uncut podcast on Instagram Join us on tiktok Or join the Facebook Discussion Group Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! xxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands were never ceded. We pay our respects to their elders past and present. Always was, always will be Aboriginal land. This episode was recorded on Gadigal land. Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. And I'm Brittany and I'm back from the jungle on Aussie soil in person looking at you two, well three. Hello. I missed you guys.
Starting point is 00:00:34 We've got Laura, producer Keisha and Jono at Butterboy. It's been so long. I'm enjoying the roll call. It's been so long. She's back everybody. Here she is. It's been so long. Looking great.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Oh, well, that's what happens with rice and bean diet for a month. Cleans you out. Oh, you don't even know the half of it. Like beans for me. I don't need to know the half of it to be fair. I don't need to know the consistency. I don't need to know all of the details. The evacuation.
Starting point is 00:01:00 No, I'm okay. I'm back. But what I want to say is, and I don't know how I feel about it, I don't know if I want to be back. Part of me wants to be back in the jungle. Britt's having an existential crisis. Existential? Extenential.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Existential. Existential? I don't know. That sounded weird. I haven't used big words in a long time. I feel like in this weird way it's a bit of like Stockholm syndrome and I feel bad saying that. you want to go back to channel 10 not the 10 but back to my cat oh yeah back to my captors
Starting point is 00:01:29 i felt like we were literally trapped in the jungle everything's controlled like you don't know the time you get fed what you get fed and given and i loved it i learned to love it brit and i have barely seen each other like today is the first time that we've seen each other brick came back she went straight to port macquarie she's only been back for a couple of days but i am at the same time learning about like the intricacies of how the jungle works and I had no idea until this morning that you didn't even know the time of day so when you're in there they keep the time from you as a way of just kind of like fucking with your headspace I don't know what the purpose is it's obviously a psychological thing but you have no concept of when you wake up
Starting point is 00:02:08 when you go to sleep when you're eating you know nothing so you don't know if you've had four hours sleep eight hours sleep which is sort of producer Keisha would not cope with that she's like I need to know how many, like, what's my REM? How many hours of deep sleep have I had? She's like, I can't cope. But you know what the thing is? And you know how people, Keisha included, but you know how people have their sleep apps and their watches. And the first thing they do when they wake up is look at, like Ben does it, right? Yeah. Wait, Keisha, what have you got? Oh, a whoop. Yeah. So Ben has a whoop. And so he'll wake up in the morning and he'll be like, oh, great. I had this many hours of deep sleep. And I'm like, why do you look at that? Because you've had the sleep
Starting point is 00:02:46 regardless why can't you just go off how you feel because it's a bit of a mind fuck right because if if you go onto your app and it goes oh you only got one hour then you're set for the day being like I only got one hour when you wake up and you don't know the time you don't know how many hours you slept you go off how you feel no it's feel good it's because sleep is now a competition because we compete in everything in life and sleep is part of that and we're all combined now competing for who is the best sleeper yeah what room did you go I don't know I genuinely am scared matt woke up yesterday and he has it he's got a gum and whatever they called and he um he woke up and he was like oh i had three minutes he had three minutes of awake time that was it so
Starting point is 00:03:24 he woke up for three minutes and then the rest of it was like a mix of deep sleep and rem and all the other things he was like oh pretty good like eight hours and ten minutes last night so in that time like in that eight hours and ten minutes whilst we were asleep in the middle of the night lola gets into our bed right so she climbs in gets into bed i woke him up and got him to go and get a bottle of water for her so he got up out of it so for the three minutes it was literally the three minutes that he woke up walked out of the bed filled the bottle up walked back in bed handed it to her went straight back to sleep and i was like you have a gold mine on your hands you need to get a whoop so that you can wake up in the morning and have proof of the difference in
Starting point is 00:04:03 your night's sleep and then you use that against him weaponize it weaponize that for the rest of the day you're like hey you got three minutes i didn't get any sleep so now you're doing everything I think that that would be the demise of our relationship. If I actually. I'm buying your whip. Put on the business. Put on the business. Yeah, that's a fail on your behalf.
Starting point is 00:04:21 There's a golden egg opportunity there. And it's okay occasionally to weaponize sleep against your partner. Especially if you're not having any. If you're not having it, yeah. And actually, let's be serious. It's not weaponizing it. But it's important if he has his data that you also have your data. And he can do what you will.
Starting point is 00:04:40 When you enter an argument, if I've learned anything from this podcast, it's that if you're entering an argument, know what it is that you're arguing about. Have your facts ready. But this is the problem. What happens though then is then you start scorekeeping. You start tallying it up. You start being like, well, I only got this much sleep. So you did this. And then that's tit for tat. And that's when they're all that's, that's fucking bad stuff. Have you ever had an argument with Matt where you're so deep in it and then you literally say to each other, what are we like? What was the argument? Like, do you ever get so deep in the tit for tat thing that you don't remember what you are arguing because matt is so grudgy
Starting point is 00:05:12 he really holds a grudge which is also like he's very good at apologizing but he still holds on to the grudge so he like he knows he will never lose track of an argument because he knows what we're arguing about because he's like i'm going to use this information later yeah you do no i don't hold a grudge but i'm i argue about really dumb stuff like i had an argument with ben last night over the dumbest thing and I know it's because I'm emotional my hormones are through the roof but shouldn't matter but I've got my period and I haven't seen Ben in four months anyway we had this done he wants to get a tattoo and he keeps we have very different ideas of what tattoos he should get I don't he should get whatever tattoo he wants it's his body no it's
Starting point is 00:05:53 our body no he runs his tattoos by me which I think is lovely he's like look if I'm gonna have a giant tattoo on my body the rest of my life be nice if you liked it and so it's not like I'm saying well I am saying no actually that's yeah I do say no but he and I like very different things so we're trying to find something and this is on him not me we're trying to find something that we both like but he likes big like big dark portraits of stuff and I like very fine line anyway so we got to this one tattoo that I've convinced him it's like a very star signy thing he's getting the Zodiac on his body? What do I get to say? It's yeah. Laura's going to try me on Ben's tattoo, but there was this little part in it where you could, I was like, look, you could leave that
Starting point is 00:06:36 blank for now. And it's like very small writing part. I said, you could fill it maybe with really important things that happen in life. Maybe when we get engaged, wink, wink, wedding date, kids, dates, whatever. Like there's room for really nice sentimental things. Cause he's very sentimental. And also it works very well. Cause if you're somebody who forgets dates a lot, You've just got them plastered all over your body. Matt's got Marley's birthday. Doesn't ever forget it because it's on his arm. Hasn't gotten around to getting lolas yet.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Always forgets it. See the second child. Yeah. He needs to get that done before she's old enough to realize that he doesn't have it. A hundred percent. Yeah. Well, so I thought this was really cute and I was rattling all this stuff. And then he goes, oh yeah, maybe I'll get the first place we had nachos or the first
Starting point is 00:07:13 place we had. And just started like taking a piece of my idea and like writing really dumb stuff back. And that was all. I cracked it. I was like, I'm not having this conversation with someone so immature. And he was like, babe, just have a laugh. and I was like, I'm done with this. I was like, you don't care about my feelings.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And I just went into this whole ridiculous argument and like hung up the phone. I was like, I can't talk anymore. Then I sat on it for about 20 minutes and I was like, if I told Laura this tomorrow. You're fucked. Literally. But also that makes me think maybe there is a reason
Starting point is 00:07:40 why you should be back in the jungle. I think though, Britt, I don't think you realise how controversial it is to have a say in your partner's tattoos. No, I know. We had a conversation on the podcast. Yeah. I think it's such an – it's nice that he is conscious enough and cares enough to ask you, but, like, I kind of think
Starting point is 00:07:57 that you don't really get a say in your partner's tattoos. If they want to go and get something, you kind of just have to be okay with it. Yeah, see, I disagree. Oh, Matt's getting a stupid – he's getting a turtle tattooed on him because he lost a bet. He lost a fucking running race, made a bet with our brother-in-law, and he lost it, and now he has to go and get a tattoo of a turtle on his ass that's running.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Oh, my God. That is so funny. At least it's on his butt, though. And I have no say and I don't care. I couldn't care. Yeah, but that's on his butt. No one sees that ever. But Ben's whole body is going to be covered.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Like he's got legs and arms and whatever else. The only tattoo I've approved so far was the B for Brittany. You're the problem. You are the problem. Well, look, I mean, as you guys know, if you've been listening to the podcast the last couple of weeks, producer Keisha has been filling in for Britt. You have done an incredible job.
Starting point is 00:08:48 We love you. You're fucking amazing. i have loved doing records with you brit we've missed you so much and there's been so much around i mean we all watched i'm not gonna speak for everyone listening to podcasts i watched it so many so many of us watched i'm a celebrity get me out of here i so deeply enjoyed the season not just because you were on it but i think like sky and callum were absolutely fucking hilarious i really enjoyed getting to know tristan better like i think that everybody they chose on this season was a really great choice and i think the casting was brilliant
Starting point is 00:09:19 and that was reflected on the inside too it was amazing the cast because you know obviously you film 24 hours a day you guys get to see an hour and a half the cast was amazing everyone was incredible it was just like such a wholesome group of people to be fair it felt like that show was not just an hour and a half it felt like it was the show that never ended every night poor Matt because he was like is this going to be my life until Brit gets out because it's on every night of the week so every night we're sitting there watching it I'm pretty sure it went for like two hours some nights. Did it? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I thought it was only an hour and a half. It was still on at nine o'clock and it started at seven. Yeah, seven thirty. That's an hour and a
Starting point is 00:09:55 half. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry it dragged on for you. Where is this ever going to end? No, but it was brilliant. What this episode today is going to be is basically a deep dive on all things I'm a celeb. All the things that you don't know about it. We put a question box out to you guys. You've asked so many questions around what does and doesn't happen. And I am just in the grey as you are because I have no idea and Britt and I haven't had the opportunity to have these conversations yet so I'm it's like a learning experience for everybody a hundred percent and I the cast really were incredible and I know one of the big questions is you know like what was it actually like behind the scenes were there arguments and all that kind of stuff and there
Starting point is 00:10:35 really wasn't the only argument that was had on the whole show basically that I was aware of was shown just between Candice and Sky like they're really no shit really went down there was a bit of bickering here and there over like people getting a bit short with people purely because you're in this tiny confined environment and there's like sometimes there's too many people in the kitchen helping too many opinions going around and sometimes people are like I just need a second to myself yeah also I mean when you have that many people who all have their own big personalities in ways you're always going to have some sort of like not seeing eye to eye I think there was one little like it wasn't a spat it didn't go into anything but you could feel and
Starting point is 00:11:12 also it could be just editing you could feel that kind of animosity that was brewing and that was between Khan and Denise Drysdale. Oh no that was real. Yeah it seemed like there was like friction there but also I think it's generational thing like it's different people from different walks of life all trying to come together and just cohabitate is challenging. Yeah and that wasn't even just Khan and Denise it was everyone and Denise. Denise was really hard really really hard just very short very blunt often very rude didn't really want to be there do you think she realized she was being rude or do you think it's just the way in which she communicates because that's also different right I would I would hope she didn't realize she was being rude but then sometimes I'm
Starting point is 00:11:52 like surely you have to know like surely but she's 75 and that was a really hard environment for anyone let alone going in there at 75 like thank god she didn't do any challenges she might drop dead i'd drop dead i don't know what she could have done i know i was like looking at half the challenges that people were doing every day would come back and we're like denise never could have done that and that's not against denise it's literally a physicality thing like yeah you would have got knocked out or something but let's get into it yeah okay all right firstly i want to know how you are like how do you feel and i mean it because there's been a lot happening since the show as well but like from when you went in to where you are now it's been almost six weeks like
Starting point is 00:12:31 how are you feeling how did you feel in there and where is your mental health at now I feel good but I've had very up and downs to be honest so it is really hard in there because you have a wonderful time and you laugh so much and it's it's brilliant everyone was great but you have hard times in there for different reasons because you do so much thinking like you've got nothing else to do in there when we did the bachelor I felt like there was always something to do or always someone to talk to or film or go outside to the gym or the other thing at the bachelor though is like and I don't know if you felt like this Brit and obviously it's so long ago now but I was on high alert the whole time because I was I was on the defense I was like
Starting point is 00:13:13 how are these people gonna undermine me or try and you know screw my character or make me come across as a person I'm not like I felt like I was so defensive all the time yes I felt the same in here we're in such a different point of life so on The Bachelor you're all single obviously some people had kids but the whole point was probably one person on the show had a child and everyone was single because they're looking for a partner here everyone has partners and families and kids like so there was a lot of really wholesome chat and a lot of people really missing their families and I haven't been in an environment 24 hours a day where I'm around that before and it makes you do so much thinking so much introspective deep meaningful life thoughts
Starting point is 00:13:58 and chats that you would never have had like we have them here surface I don't want to say surface level but we have them here and then we often go home and we keep going on with life but there you have them and then you lay on your bunk bed and you just think about that chat for the next four hours yeah and a lot of it was around like kids and partners and I always think about kids and part and you know marriage and stuff that's no secret but in there listening to people like Frankie and Ellie people that were crying like seeing Frankie cry he was really upset in there the whole time because he's like I have never known a love like I've known for my my son and my wife and he's like and since I've been in here I realize I don't give them enough attention
Starting point is 00:14:39 I'm not there enough for them I need to be a better dad I need to be a better husband I say this maybe I'm being too critical but I see that because like that obviously played out on the show as well and my biggest thought when I see those sorts of things is like well why don't you just go home well that's why I did go home to your family if you're feeling that overwhelming feeling but then I also think oh like is this just your way out because like I think all the contracts you've only been signed for x amount of weeks like I don't know Frankie was real for sure he struggled in there the whole time and he had so many big realizations in there about what his wife has given up he's like I've never had enough and it's the thinking it's the nothing
Starting point is 00:15:14 else to do in there but think he's like I've never not had a hundred things to do and it's now that I realize I want to be better for them and he wanted to go home quite early to them he was struggling but he's like I came here for a reason I don't give up but then it got to the point where he's like I've learned everything I'm going to learn and I want to go and implement it now I want to go back to my son and my wife tomorrow and I respected that so in your feelings when you say that you spent a lot of time thinking like in what way did that change you in what way do you feel like you like what were the things that you were like laboring about well it's it comes back to the same thing career and ben basically and like when am i going to make that decision on having
Starting point is 00:15:51 that life that i want like don't worry i was fighting people on the i'm a celebrity fucking instagram page because my thing around that is it frustrates me to no end and like for everyone listening obviously it's probably something that everyone's thought at some point well why doesn't brit just go to scotland and people message us all the time they're like why don't you just go to scotland and you guys can just do life uncut from scotland and it's like guys we've tried like if it was that easy brit would be in scotland right now but running a business doing records in the way that we do the volume of radio like there's loads of stuff that my career is here and also the people because i get a lot of messages too and it's all comes from a good place
Starting point is 00:16:29 but the messages that are like you know life is short and it's true i'm not arguing that life is short give up work career is not important go and be with Ben I love romanticizing the idea of giving everything up for love but people still have to live but also it's I think it goes beyond that I mean because obviously you can live anywhere you've got a radiography degree you could go and do what you do somewhere else as well you know now because you let it last yeah I gotta make this work like we're podcasters forever no but I think I got into like a almost an argument with someone on Instagram which I Matt was like Laura they're a troll and I was like they're not a troll. She's a normal person. She doesn't understand. But the reason why I got into
Starting point is 00:17:09 this argument was because often I think people will message you or they'll message Life Uncut or they'll message me even and be like, why doesn't Brit just go? And I think that there is a real lack of understanding as to how much work goes into creating and not to sound like a dickhead. And I'm so sorry if this comes across that way, guys, but like one of the biggest podcasts in the country, it's so much work. It's full time. And then we have our staff and, you know Scotland's on a complete different time zone when it's eight o'clock in the morning here when we start recording it's the middle of the night in Scotland so we've tried and it's really really hard and so I guess from your perspective Brit I feel bad for you that that people are kind
Starting point is 00:17:45 of like oh it's so obvious why don't you do that because I know how it's just not that simple as simple as people make it out to be and when you're split between being the one to give up their career for a partner who's obviously also very career orientated I think it's a real cop-out how people just assume that the female is going to be the one to give up their career. And that was my debate. I was saying people like she can do podcasting from Scotland. And I was like, yeah, and he can play soccer in Australia. But there's many reasons as to why both of those things are challenging for each person. Totally. And a hundred percent, I can do podcasting from there. Is it the same? And is it as easy? Absolutely not. Would we need a whole new setup and equipment? Yes. But it's not just
Starting point is 00:18:24 the podcasting as well. Like we have other things here and the time will come when I have a baby that I probably will have to move but then that also weighs into what I was thinking about in there as well babies so obviously there's a high chance I have to do IVF yeah which is so stressful for another reason because I just want I just wish and I know everyone's gonna be like obviously no one wants to do IVF I just wish I could fall pregnant naturally so that the decision is taken away from me because the hardest thing is when to start is actually saying let's do it like on monday i am going to try and be pregnant like that is crazy to me that is crazy talk and i don't know how i'm ever going to make that decision because of the decisions that follow which is where do we
Starting point is 00:19:10 live how do we do it do i stay here alone do i give up whatever to go over there do i go over there and make the podcast work and then try and have a night nanny because it's impossible because i'll you know there's so many questions that flow on from that decision but being in there and looking at people's faces light up and the way they talk about their children family yeah yeah and it made me realize that I want it and I've always been on the fence I've always said I think I want it but maybe I don't but maybe I only don't want it because I don't know if I can you know I've never known what it was and it made me realize that I want it which is a great revelation to have like took a weight off my shoulders because there's no more umming and ahhing I know that
Starting point is 00:19:48 that's it I don't know when or how or why or what or the logistics but I know that it's something I see for my future have you had that conversation with ben since being out or is it like you're out for a day and you're like maybe i'll just give it a second's rest no ben ben is all on board ben for some reason ben has it in his head that he wants twins he just wants twins and i'm like it doesn't work like that and then it sounds do you know what i think sounds really hard my friend my friend with twins she's got four kids under four and she's like do i love my kids absolutely Are they the best things ever? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:20:23 She's like, don't choose it. Because Ben's like, let's do IVF in the UK because you can put two in because you can't do that in Australia. I couldn't. I couldn't. I mean, anyone who's out there who's got twins, like you are a superhero. Superhero. I get the benefits, right?
Starting point is 00:20:35 Because people are like, well, people like, you know, if you're in the, you get them out of the way. If you're in the one, two, you've got them. You don't have to go back. You just do it. You're awake anyway. There's all these arguments. But then there are a lot of twin mums that are like, it's so hard.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Like send help. Oh yeah. Nah. look wouldn't be my choice if I had one but anyway if that's what you get you've got to deal with the cards you get dealt but yeah Ben's picked names like he's really excited to be a dad one day he knows exactly what he wants the daddy's gonna be what he wants to call the kids I think this is so beautiful because for as long as I've known you for like six years now and I know that talking about fertility has been like a long conversation that we've had across this podcast we've talked
Starting point is 00:21:12 about egg freezing we've talked about where you have been at because for so long when we first met, you were like, I don't want kids. I think you even called my children contraception at one point. Yeah, that was a joke, but I was like, yeah, your kids are the best. They're cute, but great contraception. I don't need the pill. I love them. No, but you've gone from like not wanting to have kids to potentially entertaining idea to being at a point now where you really want to. And I know everybody's different. There'll be people out there who never want to have children. There's people out there who will follow a similar path to you. But I think more so it's the clarity because I think where you have stood it's it's the not being sure for so long
Starting point is 00:21:49 obviously if you do have to go down the track of it being more logistical just from the fact that Ben's in another country at least being sure allows you to figure out the rest of the things you know exactly and if it doesn't happen for me I also know I will have a wonderful life as well so it's it's not you know whatever way it goes but there is definitely a weight off the shoulder at having made a more clear decision well now we have to have conversations after this podcast around how we yeah well let's just wait till i'm that's when i'm pregnant that's for another chat we have had we've had so many questions i want to preface this as well like you know i know i said that britain i haven't had the opportunity to catch up properly but like i genuinely don't
Starting point is 00:22:29 know the intricacies of how things worked in the jungle and neither do you guys so you guys have all sent in so many questions around silly things from like how do you shower or how take care of yourself all the way to like how things are filmed and like how challenges take place. But we wanted this episode to be a real deep dive into the jungle, Brit's experience, the things that you've learned, the things that you didn't realize from that reality TV experience. I want to kick it off with, I think was the most common question, which is kind of weird, but it was, and it was all around how you manage to take care of yourself in this. God, there was something beautiful about no stress and just having people look after you like people feed you people do everything for you
Starting point is 00:23:08 there's no stress there's no news cycle there's no nothing like you just exist with some friends and play afl and do fun stuff and cook do you know what it sounds it sounds like being a teenager again sounds like being 11 100 when you just rock up you get told what to do we didn't know how good we had it when we were kids you know the moment that we realized that i realized it was like stockholm syndrome and so this is a bit of behind the scenes stuff it's very real for the food like you don't get fed very much, which is why everyone loses so much weight. It is monitored to a point where they know you're getting enough calories that you're safe, but you're going to lose weight because there's no sugars, preservatives, very small meals. You are on the minimum calories.
Starting point is 00:23:46 How many calories a day are you allowed to eat? I think it had to be, even the people that were like losing and not getting meals, it has to be a minimum of 800 calories, which is very low, but also that can't be for too many days in a row. So what they do is, there were genuinely days where you couldn't walk very far without sitting down feeling dizzy yeah people getting dizzy when they stood up you just had no energy so sometimes they're like hey guys get up and play and we're like we can't Callum would sleep 12 hours a day sometimes in the day like a sloth like the Callum you saw on tv was a different Callum to not on tv but that's because you can't you don't have the energy so those days that send in a banana one banana but like each that's when I knew it was
Starting point is 00:24:27 Stockholm syndrome that we were like oh my banana we just thought they were the best thank you for looking after us thank you for like for rewarding us with this piece of tiny piece of fruit and then I was like oh my god I'm there I'm I'm kidnapped right now in the jungle and I'm frothing I still feel like that about Matt oh he's kidnapped you no I'm like I fell in love with him on a reality tv show that was based on Stockholm syndrome and every so often I'm like what happened here how did I get trapped I now have two kids so am I still in contract was the contract six He cooks me dinner and I'm like, thank you so much, sweetie. Thank you for loving me.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Pick me. Can I steal you for a minute? Can I steal you for a chat for two seconds? I saw you talking to that other girl. Oh, my God, stop it. No, but it's true. These shows are based on, and I don't want to say Stockholm Syndrome because that obviously sounds like such a severe thing,
Starting point is 00:25:16 but the mentality around it is that you lose all your autonomy, something that as adults we're so used to having complete and unfiltered ability to do what we want when we want to do it. and then you go into these experiences and all of that is taken away for some people it's a massive adjustment for some people they almost thrive in like relinquishing control a little bit well they brought us in one day you guys saw it actually i think callum brought it back from a trial on easter an easter egg that was like the tiny little ones like a five cent piece oh my god we were like thank you so much you spoiled us you you're too good to us like fuck i look back now
Starting point is 00:25:52 And I'm like, what? Like, who was I? Did, okay, how did you go without having a phone for six weeks? Loved it. Best thing. Best thing I've ever done was not have a phone. I didn't want a back. Did you feel strange the first couple of days?
Starting point is 00:26:06 Yeah, I didn't open Instagram. No, not when you had a back, but the first few days of being in there. Or was it a situation where you were like, well, I know I don't have it, so I can't possibly think about it. I didn't feel strange at all. Maybe because I. Trust me, I did because I had access to all of your Instagram. I was like, someone take this away from me.
Starting point is 00:26:21 You were having a field day. it's too much i've done the bachelor before so we'd done three months without a phone i felt sorry for all the people that had never done a show where you've gone in and haven't had that access so i i gave myself to the show i walked in and was like don't even care about looking at that i didn't even think about it again whereas some other people struggled a little bit but i thought it was wonderful like i've never felt calmer in my mind in my life but also the people who i think would have struggled with it more so might even be the people who have like little kids or things that, you know, people who you want to have connection with, not just because you want to
Starting point is 00:26:57 chat to them every day, but because you're worried about their safety. You kind of worry about wanting to know what's going on in their lives. I think that for me would be a real stress factor is not being able to contact Matt to make sure that the kids are okay or to get an update or to find out like how they've been. Well, I don't think it's a safety thing because everyone in they knew that if anything happened the family had contact to the show and they would call you in and tell you it wasn't that it was just that you've never these people like haven't been away from their kids ever and if they have been away they've had contact to talk to them totally it's time it's not the big things it's not when i say safety it's not even that like today for example
Starting point is 00:27:33 i left for work and i was in the car for 10 minutes and then matt called me on the phone for marley to speak to me because she was upset about something and she wanted to speak to her mum yeah I would hate the idea of being in that situation for six weeks and it being always being no like they want to speak to mum and the answer is no you can't speak to mum because I think it's different going on a holiday and still or going away for a work trip and being able to talk to your kids every day when they want access to you versus just telling them that they can't access you at all that must be really hard especially and I don't want to just say for people who have kids but it would be an extra element I think it's definitely I'll easily say that way harder
Starting point is 00:28:08 for people that had kids you know of course the people that don't have kids we all missed our families and partners and friends but we all know that kids are different the lucky thing for everyone in there was the kids were either too small that they had no idea like babies or they were old enough to understand because it was live they could watch them every night so they could understand why they're on look daddy's on the tv that's why you're not speaking to him so that made it so much easier because all the kids had this excitement of going home every day and watching them on the tv so i think that made it better and it was easier for them to understand if they were going away it was pre-filmed and it was shown in three months the kids wouldn't
Starting point is 00:28:47 have understood but it was super hard what about fights like what about i know everyone came across as though everyone got along like you're one big happy family which i think is one of the beautiful things about i'm a celebrity is that it's not really based around the drama but there were things that happened on the show that I kind of picked up on and I was like, oh, there seems like there's some weird energy happening here. The first thing was between Candice and Sky. If you guys were watching basically what happened and just to kind of recap it. So everyone was asked to hand in their contraband, which most people had snuck into the jungle. Sky had contraband lip gloss or makeup or something. And Candice had said like, Sky, you need to hand yours in. Sky
Starting point is 00:29:27 got quite upset and I would say from watching that back like as an audience member it looked as though Candice was in the wrong and what I mean by that is it looked as though Candice yeah it kind of looked as though she threw Sky under the bus and Sky was very upset and even like the social media commentary to reflect that like people were going Candice after that moment on TV that's so interesting because I haven't I mean we don't come out I don't see that stuff that's so interesting because Candice was a hundred percent in the right and everyone agreed with that that wasn't such a huge thing in the jungle I mean at the end of the day put it this way everyone had contraband in there well basically everyone mine got I got strip searched
Starting point is 00:30:05 and mine got taken so I didn't get it in there yeah they searched every cavity I don't know why but I was not getting that protein bar in somebody took extra diligence to find it on it was strapped to my body and someone one of the producers gave me a hug you down well she gave me a hug before I went in and it went she's like what and she was like what's that I was like nothing don't And then she like started to pat me and it was like because it was all taped. I had so many tapes. It was like a robo call. Why were you hugging people?
Starting point is 00:30:27 Just say, sorry, I'm not up for hugs. Before you go in, you're like, see you, good luck, and you hugged. And then it went and I was like, oh, and then she patted me down and I was full of pressure. But in that tiny little dress, you'd strap shit to yourself. All to my arms because I had sleeves around my waist. It was everywhere. So I didn't get anything in.
Starting point is 00:30:44 But, yeah, so what happens is the show knows a bunch of people take contraband in. They encourage it for some people because it makes the show. So Khan had a whole supermarket in his bag. He had every spice you could imagine. But he's a chef, so that was always going to make for great TV. Sky had makeup in there because that suits who she is, you know. So they allowed some stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:01 So four days in or something and we're already really hungry. They're already withholding food and we're not eating a lot and you're withdrawing because you're only four days in from sugars, from coffees, from normal food, hunger. So emotions are high. Anyway, it was contraband day. Everyone had two minutes to hand their contraband in or there were consequences of not eating like you'll withhold more food so everyone knew it
Starting point is 00:31:24 was part of the show everyone who started handing their contraband in eating it all you could eat it if you wanted but you had two minutes khan put his hair dye in his hair in two minutes it was so funny it was so funny so everyone handed it in except sky who didn't want to hand her makeup lip stuff in and candace knew she had it but no one else knew apparently so she had just told her like i brought my lip stuff in and so candace didn't want to starve so she just said hey sky also hand yours in like everyone else it wasn't a big deal at all she wasn't throwing anyone under a bus everyone was doing it and Skye didn't want to give her lips up so she said no and Candice said well yes because we want to eat we're not going to not eat because of your lip balm like
Starting point is 00:32:02 because of your lip liner and it just turned into something Candice and Skye handle their emotions very differently as we know like you saw Skye she cries a lot she gets her emotions are very on this like she shows her emotions Candice hides her emotions and you could see how upset Candice was you know I could see her lip quivering she was holding in tears but she doesn't handle it the same way and I think that's why it came across in that way but at the end of the day everyone thought it was completely a fair request of Candice to ask her to hand it in and what Candice said and I was like that's so true Candice was like Skye it's not like you're holding food for a different day like you just it's a lip balm like the whole camp is not going to not eat because
Starting point is 00:32:40 you want your lip liner like like just just hand it in I mean it's interesting hearing it from your perspective of being in the camp because and I learned this from watching back our season of The Bachelor and I'm sure I've mentioned on here many years ago but the way in which people are perceived from reality TV if you're someone who's really vulnerable if you're someone who cries easily because you're you know maybe you're someone who is softer in nature in terms of like being able to show your emotion yeah that visibility of like real unadulterated emotion is received so beautifully from an audience watching. It allows you, it allows an audience member to sympathize. Whereas if you're somebody who, especially as a female, if you're a bit
Starting point is 00:33:19 harder, even if you feel all those things, even if you are equally as upset, if you don't cry, if you shut down in those moments of vulnerability, the audience doesn't, they're nowhere near as kind to you. If you shut down, you're perceived as hard. And I think in that moment, and I don't think I saw a play on Instagram, people were absolutely going for Candice in the comments. people were messaging on Skye saying how beautiful she was how she was being misrepresented it was a real moment of like a you know you picked a side in that moment and Skye came off better on social media than Candice did yeah that's such a shame because what should have happened is everyone just handed their contraband in and if Skye didn't and Candice said hey Skye put it in
Starting point is 00:33:57 she should have just put it in that argument shouldn't have happened and I love them both equally it just seems like such a dumb argument totally I mean we're fighting over lips gloss and she also kept it anyway she was using it the whole time she had the last couple of days she was just pulling it out she was like I've been had this the whole time so she didn't even hand it in anyway or she had multiple no she had multiple she handed one in but she must have had a bag of stuff I don't know good on her I want to know about the hygiene perspective because you mentioned that people didn't shower and maybe it was because the water was too cold but people weren't showering but more so beyond that like how do people take care of themselves what's the
Starting point is 00:34:30 toilet situation like can you shave your legs can you see yourself in a mirror like talk me through that aspect of either slab yeah you can shower every day you can but you don't so Frankie and Sky were the grossest by far they didn't shower they both showered like five or six times I think the whole time why would you do that why would you not shower because it was so cold like freezing cold and you're out in the open there are spider snakes scorpions there's cameras on you everywhere and it's just freezing. It's not hot. Africa wasn't hot like you'd think it would be
Starting point is 00:35:01 because we were so shaded and sheltered from the sun. So we didn't get sun. Did people shower naked or did they shower clothed? Just, believe it or not, shock horror, just Callum. Showered naked from the get-go? Yeah, he was naked. Didn't give a fuck? Gave no fucks.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Just hanging out with his wang out? Well, not all the time. Sometimes he had his undies on, but then I think he got over it and he would just like cup his. And you're just standing there and he's just there showering? Well, you could. Women across Australia are all wanting to go on I'm a Celebrity. You could, but we were pretty respectful.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Like if people were like, I'm going for a shower, you generally wouldn't go and stand there and goggle at them. But like you could still walk past. But the showers are away from the main camp or they're like right in the camp? Like you're sitting there on your bed watching someone in the shower? I think the camp looks bigger than it is. You can't sit on the bed and look at them, but you can wash up and look at them. So you're washing up.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Callum's in the shower. I've got to go wash my car. Yeah. But you already washed it. No, I didn't wash properly. I'm going back to you. No, that's what it's like. You would wash up and stare at them.
Starting point is 00:35:58 And you could be at the gym and look through the cracks at them. So the gym and the washing up and the shower were in this tiny vicinity that you walked past the toilet and then you're in the camp. The camp, I don't know how big it looks on screen. It's tiny. It looks tiny. You are stuck in this tiny camp for a month. The only times you go out are for trial.
Starting point is 00:36:15 You don't speak to another human. You don't see another human unless you leave. And you don't know what time of day it is. You don't know. that was good and bad. You have no concept of time. So you don't know when you woke up, what time it is, what time you went to bed. You've got to guess through the day because you've got this tiny meal, right? Two tablespoons of rice for lunch and two tablespoons of beans. That is it. Nothing. Plain. So that's all you look forward to all day. So you've got no concept
Starting point is 00:36:40 of time. So you get up and you have your oats and then you don't know what you've done to fill in the hours. And then you're like, what time do you reckon is lunchtime? Because everyone's starving. So you'd eat, you'd cook because you want to really wait it out and then it would be like 15 hours until dinner. Because you ate lunch at 9am. TikTok you'd be like, you guys did have lunch early today, like you had lunch very early. So sometimes it's like 9.30, 10 and we're like, let's have lunch
Starting point is 00:37:02 because you got up at like 5, you don't know. So I kind of loved that, the idea of not knowing how many hours sleep you've got, how long you've been away, what time. There's something cool about that but also it also plays into the whole psychological aspect. So many people asked around periods, like how you manage your period while you're in there, because you're in there for six weeks. So most women will have gotten a period in that time. How do you manage that? What did you do?
Starting point is 00:37:28 That was definitely hard, probably harder for me because I say me, because I choose to use a menstrual cup instead of pads and tampons. So they give you pads and tampons. And my understanding was every other woman in there was using pads and tampons. So the cup is difficult because usually you do it in the shower you're rinsing it out cleaning it you put it back in I was not going to do that in the shower there's no way someone's at the gym just there's a menstrual cup whipping that around no way I was doing that and especially it's not even that it's knowing that there is a room of 80 people watching yeah it's not the people in the camp it's everyone who's watching on camera yeah and the lack of that's the thing you don't realize it's the lack of overall privacy
Starting point is 00:38:09 because you don't know how much visibility they have. Yeah, and I went into the control room at the end. I knew there were people in there, but they take you on a tour at the end and you see all the cameras on the camp. It's like nothing I've ever seen. Do you remember that horrible thing that happened to Chrissy Swann when she was on Big Brother? No, why?
Starting point is 00:38:23 It was absolutely awful. It happened back in 2013. You guys know Chrissy Swann. She's got the radio show. She was on Big Brother. She was in the shower and she heard one of the cameramen because obviously they are in the bathrooms. They're everywhere.
Starting point is 00:38:36 They're watching. It's Big Brother style. so she was in the shower and she heard someone through the wall say I know you like fat women and he was talking to another cameraman and they were watching her in the shower it all played out on the show this is 20 played that yeah this is 2013 reality tv like this is the type of like abhorrent behavior that would have been shown now there's no way that it would fly and she was humiliated absolutely humiliated that I can't even believe that that was shown in 2013 it was shown yeah it was shown on tv it all played out it made the news like it was obviously it was
Starting point is 00:39:09 so disgusting to watch but this is what you think you are in that environment you're in a tiny little space where you think about your teammates seeing you but what you might not be thinking about is literally the team of people that you're trusting to be on the other end of that camera so it's and then what's happening with that footage you hope that they're just doing the right thing about you well i was thinking the opposite i wasn't thinking about the people in the camp i was thinking about those people because i guess i've done tv before i know how many people would been watching but i actually had no idea it was so many it was like 60 70 people in this one room with a whole wall of have you seen like morning wars with jennifer aniston and anyway if you guys
Starting point is 00:39:44 have seen morning wars that's what it looks like cameras on every single angle of that whole place including the shower and you know well you like to think that they're respectful and they're not looking but at the end of the day there's you're on a big screen naked whether that then whether they do anything with that footage they're going to be watching it at that time and there's no way I'm whipping a menstrual cup out and tipping my blood down the sink. But also the toilet facilities are pretty rank as well. You've got a long drop toilet. You've got a short drop toilet.
Starting point is 00:40:09 You've got a toilet for the poos and a toilet for the wheeze. Yeah. So you're supposed to just go and empty your menstrual cup out, then waltz around camp with it to go and rinse it and then go back. Yeah. So I would go into, I'd do it at nighttime when there was not a lot of people around and it was dark and I'd go wash my hands. So I was clean, sanitize, go to the long drop, not touch anything, take it out,
Starting point is 00:40:28 put it into the long drop walk back out clean it rinse it wash my hands again go back in and put it in and then go back out and wash it was a lot and it was a real nightmare but that's just the choice I wanted to make because I wanted to I could have used tampons but I wanted to use that it's the choice I made a couple years ago and I love it but I guess it's just part of it like you have to know that if you're going in there it's part of it yeah but there's a part of me that that like I feel annoyed by that because I'm like it's so easy to be a dude well go in there do a shit do away and leave like it's so easy being a guy but as women there is a an additional facility and there is an additional I guess like privacy that's required and you're not given that
Starting point is 00:41:10 opportunity like I don't know there's something about that that I feel especially if you are choosing to use a moon cup and I know we should be like oh no shame go and rinse it out in the shower but the reality is is like some privacy would be nice well it's not shame it's privacy yeah totally it is it's like it's the same thing you're not gonna go whip a tampon out in front of someone and swing it around well actually some people probably would do that but like that's not ideal that'd be terrible tv i don't want to see that the toilets yeah you go take a dump and then you've got to clean them you've got to go and pull it's just a bucket it's a hole in this bucket and every day you take the bucket out and you put the bucket in and in both bathrooms is a
Starting point is 00:41:42 tub of charcoal and a tub of hay like oat kind of thing it's like soda sorry fucking not hay or oats I was like what the fuck dude my brain doesn't work it was a bucket of sawdust something that looks like shaved wood yeah it was a sawdust so after every poo and wee you had to scoop the sawdust to cover it and then you scoop the like charcoal in and it helps cover the smell and cover the poo that's enough to make me not want to do it ever and you carry it out man they were dropping nuggets it was like 20 kilos a day that's callum i don't know who it was the size of that guy it was pete he would be doing some meaty meaty booze so that was gross but you get used to it very quick the first day you go in you're like ah you don't touch anything it smells and then by four
Starting point is 00:42:31 days in you couldn't care less like it just becomes you again stockholm it becomes everyday life you're like thank you for the toilet paper like yeah i don't think there's anyone out there in the world who'd be like oh yeah it'd be fun with that oh no it frosts it like that's my favorite hey what was your favorite part of i'm a slave cleaning up the shit out of the drop that went everywhere but there's full scorpions in there and snakes like killer snakes how do you feel about the snakes so there was like quite a few challenges one where you had like a bowl in your head and you had snakes around your head sky's challenge where she had to lay in a box and was covered in snakes when you're going through these challenges like how by the end
Starting point is 00:43:06 of it are you okay with the animals is it still as petrifying as it looks i think by the end of it's fine and i know sky's challenge with the snakes i can say this because she told us but she loved it it was the easiest trial of the entire show that was such a turnaround because on the first episode she was petrified and then she was laying there like gandhi i was like how have you how like how have you managed to overcome this fear i would have literally shit myself in that box it was the easy it would be me in a drop toilet yeah covering snakes 100 she's like it's the easiest challenge you can do because you just lay there and close your eyes and they just sit on you and like slither but she's like it was I just went to sleep and 12 minutes later I got up
Starting point is 00:43:46 they tried to make her open her eyes and she was like okay yep it's beautiful yeah she just yep she just laid there and relaxed I guess it gets to a point where you know deep down that they're not going to hurt you like the snakes that they're giving you they don't want a celebrity to die imagine they don't want I'm a celebrity I'm dead everyone go to their funeral like that's not the vibe so the snakes are there to like make you feel uncomfortable but if you can get to the point where you're like they're not gonna hurt me it's okay do you not think about the variable though like what if just one snake in that environment arced up and then they're agitated and then it agitates the other snakes like all it takes is one thing to go wrong in that situation yeah so
Starting point is 00:44:24 when my head was in the snake jar astronaut jar they were going around my neck and there was a point where i was yelling out saying they're around my neck they're going to choke me because that's what it feels like right they feel like it's getting well they weren't constricting because i've stopped breathing but i could feel them around in a circle but they're not constrictors so there are rangers everywhere like the snake handle is all around you robert's watching and they're watching their behavior the whole time they can tell if their behavior is changing or if they're if they're getting agitated and they would stop it like they don't want anything to happen so i just really gave myself to if they think something's wrong i wouldn't be in this
Starting point is 00:45:02 situation. And you have to, or you'll have a panic attack. What about the ice challenge? So you did one challenge where you were in a deep freeze, they called it. It was you and Candice Warner. I mean, I can't stay in an ice bath for two minutes, let alone how long you're in there for. We all had a group chat. We were all messaging each other at the time because it was incredible. You were so good in that moment. And I was so proud of you. I honestly was just like, oh my God, she's done so well, Queen Bridie. But what was that like? And was it as hard as it looked that was my favorite challenge and that by far the hardest most difficult challenge of the show so they say but that's because there was so much uh physicality in it and actually danger
Starting point is 00:45:42 so it was about 18 minutes total you ended up being in an ice bath and it is a proper ice bath i can 100 say there is nothing fake about what happened and then you're panicking too because you're chained down and there's like the tiniest bit of breath at the top and you can't catch your breath because you're so cold like your breathing is really shallow and you're panicking so our core body temperature dropped a bit over three degrees so we should be at about 37 degrees most people know that we were at 33.8 or something which is crazy if it gets they monitor you the second you get out they're monitoring you the medical team if you get to 32 that is proper like you need to go to a hospital hypothermia so we were 33 and a bit and the second you get out we couldn't even
Starting point is 00:46:27 interview usually they interview you after but we could not talk we could not we were like convulsing shaking well most people would think about temperature from the opposite like when you have a fever and you get hot and i think about like when the kids have had temperatures and they've gotten up to 40 degrees even higher than 40 degrees and it's like we're at hospital with that you know so when you think about being three degrees under it's just as severe but in the opposite direction yeah so they just they just had a car ready for us heated at 40 degrees we had like the foil hypothermic blankets, hot water bottles, normal blankets, hot tea. They have to give you food to get your temperature up. And it was like 45 minutes before they check every couple of
Starting point is 00:47:05 minutes in your ear and your temperature. And it was so, I couldn't believe how slow it takes. Like it dropped so quickly and to get it back up took so long. Was there ever a point in that challenge where you thought like, this is dangerous? Oh yeah. A hundred percent. But there is a risk. His name is Risky. They're the risk assessors and he has like Risky on his shirt and he's at every trial he sets it up they've tested themselves and then he's there on standby so he was at the top of that with like his snorkel oxygen thing and his wetsuit and they gave us a sign so you can pop up to the top and say i'm a celebrity get me out of here and they'll take you out of the challenge but they gave us a sign where you draw a line across your neck so through the
Starting point is 00:47:43 glass if you're underwater you just draw a line across your neck like the dead sign and it's that is they were like you only do this is an immediate release if something is proper wrong and they have like those glass smashes and they would smash the glass from the outside and the tank would just go out so if you do that if you do kill or you say i'm a celebrity get me out of here do you get taken like do you have to leave the show so the way they will our understanding no one actually said it in a challenge but our understanding was you don't have to do that you can say it in the challenge and it just takes you out of the challenge the trial but if you say it in the camp you're saying i'm leaving so it can just take you from a trial you can say i'm a
Starting point is 00:48:21 celebrity and they're like it's immediately over but you don't have to leave the show so i i think maybe i'm wrong but i i thought that if you said it at all it meant that you left the show so i completely like i didn't say it but that's they they said to us every trial like you don't have to go through with this you can say i'm a celebrity but it means you'll forfeit your stars so i think when you're saying it in a trial so if you've earned like seven stars or something and then you say it you forfeit all stars yes yes okay who did you like the most in there I mean I liked everyone obviously but I was really close at the beginning I should say the whole time but I Michelle and I we were we met on the first like we were in the same group at the start when we
Starting point is 00:49:04 jumped off the cliff and then our beds were put together because we were the last people to get beds so just us were over on the corner in the jungle bush by ourselves we got really close and We spend a lot of time talking and I have a lot of time for Michelle. She's the sweetest, loveliest woman. What do you think people would be surprised to know about her? How sweet and lovely she is. I think people, she doesn't have a bad bone in her body. She doesn't have a hard, she's just so caring.
Starting point is 00:49:28 She is one. So I mean, and this is purely just from someone looking from the outside in. She's someone who comes across prior to I'm a celebrity as hard, as like that lacking in a vulnerability aspect that I was talking about earlier, that you see her and you kind they can't quite read her but then in the jungle I think so many people who were watching that thought oh my god she's actually so lovely she's so amazing and maybe has just been through some shit and unfortunately when you're a public figure you go through shit and you do it on a public stage for everybody to have an opinion about a hundred percent and that's it so she was genuinely
Starting point is 00:50:00 the most sweet-natured soft caring giving person and also I mean to be fair and I guess it's an important thing that we could unpack on another episode but like the show in which she was a part of for so long the biggest loser is so deeply fundamentally wrong and at the time we all loved it we were all like it was like you know let's watch people who are overweight be tortured basically to be able to then get skinny like we loved the suffering of it which is like now with the 2024 lens is so absolutely so fucking gross but I'm sure she probably also thinks it's gross well I don't think it lands now and I had that conversation on the show with Michelle but I didn't love the suffering I love the transformations I love transformations of
Starting point is 00:50:41 anything a garden before and after a house renovation a person's life like the overhaul like she's like I get that things would be different now but she's like I know the lives we change and the way she spoke about it she's like they wanted to be there and do it she's like and there's so much stuff you didn't see after it she's like I was with them all night we were always talking and counseling and helping and the way she spoke about it I was like I get what you're saying it's just the humiliation aspect like getting people to get almost naked and stand on scales like that part of it and that's what i mean by you know the suffering i'm not saying that people got a kick out of it but it was part of the show right like watching people break down
Starting point is 00:51:14 crying it was that vulnerability aspect that we would never stand for that now like no one would watch that everyone be up in arms in the same way that when i say this thing about chrissy swan from big brother back in 2013 we would riot if that happened now like when it comes to reality tv in the last 10 years the world has changed so much which it absolutely needed to yeah and that's like yeah we'll have a whole nother convo about that but other people like ellie cole we love her we've had ellie on the podcast but she is i mean i even got to see another side of ellie like at the end of the day we interviewed ellie and we were friends on social media but i didn't i didn't know her like i do now she's so fucking funny yeah and she's such a boss in there like i just
Starting point is 00:51:55 take my hat off to her it was such a hard environment and to for her to be in there with her prosthesis and i say that because there is a lot of up and down hiking and walking it's definitely not easy a lot of the trials were really hard but she just killed it she never complains she's she everything's funny she makes a joke of everything obviously Callum I don't know if it was shown Callum and I got along really well he's very funny guy very funny Pete believe it or not I don't know if they showed a lot of that I had a lot of really great conversations with Pete he reminded me a lot of my dad and he'll hate that because he'll be like we're friends I'm not your dad but the way he spoke about his kids and his wife he was he just reminded me of my dad he
Starting point is 00:52:32 just he worships the ground that his family walks on and he's such a sweet man very unique sense of humor and I had a lot of time for him and he had a lot of time for me which I appreciated you know he was very interested in my life and very curious and not a lot of people in there were so I loved that he had genuine questions about you know people we've interviewed things I've done travel whatever so we had a lot of really great conversations what about Callum and the reason might ask this is because I think the version of him that we see on the show, and I might be just like drawing parallels, but I think a part of it is an act. And I say that because he comes across as so lovably stupid, but I actually think he's not stupid at all. And I think he's very good at
Starting point is 00:53:16 making good TV. I think he knows how to get soundbites and do reality TV well. I think that's probably accurate. And I can say that I don't know Callum on the outside. I only knew him in the show, but we all saw each other off camera and on camera and he was definitely a hundred miles an hour on camera and he slept all day off camera but you can't also hold that against someone because we also making a tv show well yeah the cameras come on and you give energy like that's what you do so i'm not holding that part against him at all we all did it i don't think he's as dumb as he lets on at all i think he's got a lot more upstairs but in different ways so like if he's really interested in something he's really smart with it like so he he did like two years of a
Starting point is 00:53:59 physio degree which is really hard he studied nutrition and PT really really difficult but that's his forte like that's what he's interested in in his own life there are definitely some things that he didn't know that were real like there are but but then at the end of the day I think he probably just lent into it a little bit yeah yeah which is what TV is he got great one-liners great sound bites and those one-liners and stuff like that that is Callum like he spits that out left right and center and he's very funny his accent helps a lot and like the lingo helps a lot I laughed at him all the time and it was genuine how many hours a day are you actually filming so like when you wake up in the morning so it's you're on from the minute you wake up
Starting point is 00:54:40 the cameras are on all night they get you while you're sleeping so you never you're always on you're always and do they come and tell you okay guys you need to bring lift the energy in camp you need to do something like do they produce you at all or do they just leave you to kind of like fuck around and talk it's the most unproduced show i've seen but they do produce you when they have to and that's only when you're a couple of days deep of zero calories no food and you are struggling with you cannot even get up to walk down to wash up like and they see that right so when they see everyone and you know callum sleeping for 13 hours a day they're like callum get up he's like bro i can't i do not have the energy to get up so they'll send a banana banana yep they send
Starting point is 00:55:18 the banana in and that you pick up and if they need you to do something active if they know that there's like a dancing challenge where you're going to dance all day they'll send in a banana or an orange that's it that one thing one thing to keep you going but it's very it's only produced when we've been sloths for days they're like okay we're actually trying to make a show you need to give us something was there anything about the whole experience that you were disappointed in or wasn't as you expected it to be? I didn't think the food would be real. I knew that I'd be hungry,
Starting point is 00:55:51 but I thought that'd slip you more secret food when you were struggling. But I didn't go in with a lot to lose and I lost five and a half kilos in four weeks. That's crazy. Four weeks. And the boys lost 10 kilos. It also makes me worry, though, like if anybody went into that environment who had any sort of like disordered eating,
Starting point is 00:56:09 like undiagnosed disordered eating or like poor relationship with food like that feels like a really dangerous thing to do well i guess that's why you do so many like mental health checks before like you you have a psychologist the psychologist is there they are watching you you get weighed when you go in and then when you leave immediately and they're watching they know you're going to lose weight but still monitored right they know that i think it's 800 calories absolute minimum and that can't be too many days in a row yeah so they monitor if you guys are getting really small amounts if we're not winning any food at night which we want a lot of food but if you're not winning much they'll send something in in the day if you're going on a trial that's
Starting point is 00:56:45 really high energy they have like a little secret muesli bar that's made up on site of all the grains and stuff that are high energy but yeah from for someone of my size to have still lost five and a half kilos that's how real it is um so you are so much in such a short period of time because really i mean from when you left to now that you're back it was like what five and a half weeks in total four weeks yes but four weeks of the of the show which is the controlled eating four weeks and the last week we ate a lot like they get they start to give you treats like you win a cake here you have your buffet breakfast there were so many questions that came in but one of the big ones is obviously there's a charity element to the whole thing do you also get paid
Starting point is 00:57:25 do we get paid do you get oh yes you have to get paid because you give up your job a lot of people won't get paid from their work I had to take some leave without pay here from radio so people negotiate whatever they think they need to go in in complete honesty they offered me a number to go in and I said no because it didn't even cover I would lose money that's what it was they're like oh that's all we have and I was like that's okay I appreciate it but like I I'm not doing it I can't do it for that with what yeah so they renegotiated for me and everyone had different salaries but no one talks about it yeah no one you can tell who got Frankie would have got the most, hands down.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I mean, I don't know if it's come out publicly, but Sky did. So Sky, Pete Deppler, who works at KJ, Carl and Jackie O, for anyone who doesn't know, they'll ask any question, right? They don't care. And Sky answered it without realising that it was embargoed. She was like, I got paid this much. So if you guys want to look, I don't want to say it
Starting point is 00:58:19 in case it hasn't made it out. But Sky is hilarious because they called her because she just wants to be on reality TV. She hasn't been on since she was 20. So they called her and said, would you like to do it? She goes, I'll do it for free. You don't have to pay me. I was like, Skye, why did you tell them you'd do it for free?
Starting point is 00:58:35 I was like, because I just wanted to be on TV. And I was like, bro, it's still a job. You will be for free. They will fucking use you for free, Channel 10. They need all the money they can get. They've got a lot of court cases at the moment. Fucking hell. Okay, well, I'm leaving the spiciest one to last.
Starting point is 00:58:52 And some sicko wanted to know, did anybody or were you able to self-pleasure in the time? Get one off. Rub it out. Did you give your nut one out while you were in there? Did you finger blast yourself whilst you were in camp? Laura, how old are you, 15? Oh, I'm the one who took it too far. Yeah, finger blast.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Rub one out. It's better than finger blast. Ew! Sorry. That, you'll rank. Not a funny question. Lots of people ask that. You can, of course.
Starting point is 00:59:17 You can do what you want, but you would, I guess you would go to the toilet to do it because you're not going to do it on camera. No one is masturbating in a drop toilet. Oh, no. So this is what Callum said, right? Callum put it in a really great way. He's like, the chick of my dreams could walk in here right now and want to bang and I wouldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:59:33 He's like, I do not have the energy to even perform. I don't have the energy to even lay here. You're so depleted that you're not horny because you can't. But I did often wake up with my hand on my boob or because I sleep like that anyway, like me holding my boob is a comfort thing. I always wake up like that and sometimes my hand was like on my crutch but I was just holding it because that's what I do. i forgot about this it was the exit interview for michelle bridges and they like flashed back to
Starting point is 01:00:02 camp live and you were just laying there with your hand in your pants just like that's my comfort and it stayed on it stayed on you for an uncomfortable amount of time and it was just you with your hands in your pants holding your vagina yeah they didn't just go to another shot they just stayed on you a lock shot of you with your hands in your pants yeah why would you there's nothing to be ashamed of nothing i live your best life it's always been my comfort thing so like literally yeah but not like you're like yeah I know I do it as well just hold your vagina yeah yeah I feel like a man holding cupping his but all your boob your boob I hold my yeah my boob is fine I feel like a boob is lesser because it's usually on the outside if you were like in your top just holding
Starting point is 01:00:35 a titty well yeah and also the crotch I'm hoping I'm hoping no one saw me holding my crotch because it was in my sleeping bag asleep no you were holding your crotch oh no I mean I mean when I woke up when I didn't know I was doing it because there was a lot because I was like what else was i subconsciously doing so yeah there's definitely no one's masturbating but like yeah if you ever saw me with my hands on private parts of my own private parts it's a comfort thing i've done i've always done it i'll always do it i'm not ashamed of it all right well i know usually on a tuesday's episode we will do suck and sweet but we figured brit since you've had zero air time on this podcast in the last x amount of weeks and you guys know exactly what's been happening in keisha in my life
Starting point is 01:01:13 we wanted to just do a jungle suck and sweet. So things are going to be a little bit different, but what was the worst thing that happened whilst you were on the show? The worst thing was probably like for me in terms of trials was the pig nipple for sure. The eating trial for me, I knew it was going to be bad. I didn't even eat meat really when I went into the jungle. Pig nipples on. It makes me feel sick just thinking about it. Yeah. It was actually vomitous. And can I just say my defense, I know that I was the only one that vomited in that, in all the eating trials. There is a reason. And Robert told me, I don't know if it made it to air yet, but what I ate was pig nipples on a stink bug smushed together cake. And the stink bugs have
Starting point is 01:01:52 this protection mechanism. The whole reason that they survive and they don't get eaten by animals is they smell so bad and they release this thing in their mouth that is so potent that animals physically can't swallow them. You vomit it up. And that is the reason I was swallowing it. It was getting down to like my collarbones and coming back up like my body was like fuck no it's impossible as much as it's mind over matter it's not this was a this was a visceral reaction from my body that was expelling the stink bug and i could feel the nipples like tickling the epiglottis like the back of my throat the whole nipple it was disgusting so then because they only showed a little bit they showed it made it look like you kind of just gagged it up oh they
Starting point is 01:02:31 had to cut it 10 minutes vomiting like horrific like that that trial that was sitting in my mouth for 20 minutes i with my mouth closed trying to swallow back up keeping it in so i tried so hard and they couldn't they just everyone was like you can do it and i was like i physically can't it's going down and my body is expelling it vomited everywhere but they had to cut all that because it was not very nice it's disgusting so that was the worst i don't understand why they air that at 7 30 at like dinner time no one can watch it it is honestly the most watching someone almost vomit is worse than vomiting yourself yeah the gag but i ate the intestine thing that was disgusting michelle bridges did it for the team ate three penises i'd rather eat a
Starting point is 01:03:12 dick oh the same i've eaten three dicks in my life at the same time give me a penis any day of the week give me sky's vagina not sky's vagina sky ate a vagina sky ate a sheep fanny great piece of meat even had clitoris on it but she was like it was fine she ate a sheep's clitoris and I had a nipple yeah it was she ate the clitoris it had a full vagina on it it had so funny yeah it had the flaps and then the clitoris on it it was a flap it was a sheep flap it was a fanny flap it was a sheep's fanny flap it was a labia someone's gonna come to us someone will listen to this podcast and be like I call it what it is oh whatever it's funnier to say she ate a sheep's fanny flap with a clitoris so she actually said
Starting point is 01:03:58 That was pretty good. It was just like a bit of meat. But yeah. It was pretty good. Wasn't Tristan the one that was like, I'll have some of that? Dude, Tristan, I've never seen anyone eat a testy like Tristan did. He sucked the testy down whole. He was like, blood on it.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Are they cooked? Is the meat cooked? It has to be cooked to whatever level is safe to consume. So it's like boiled. But it doesn't, yes, it doesn't, man, they do not taste like that. They haven't cooked it with, they haven't like cooked it with herbs and spices. They just like blanch it. I'm not convinced my intestines were cooked.
Starting point is 01:04:27 I am not convinced. no because awful it would have been awful when it's cooked goes like white and okay stop yeah i was there awful's bad yeah it's like have you ever eaten cooked tripe well we had one night we had awful for dinner in a fat membrane that was our that was our star dinner we won that it was the worst night of my life were you just like what the fuck is this absolute fuckery i think that's the only time they showed me the first two weeks was like i'm not fucking eating that that's like this is not a prize yeah it was not a prize this is mean and then my suite of the whole show my favorite favorite day was towards the end steven callum and i did a trial that was the worst
Starting point is 01:05:04 school carnival ever and we were like spun around on this thing yeah yeah that was funny i off camera i cannot tell you we laughed hysterically from the moment we walked in and for like five hours later we could not we were on the ground in hysterics like so much was happening and that was what i needed to keep me going because i was like this is the day i needed in the jungle the hands down the best day Callum was in a sack with poison ivy was it or stinging nettle stinging nettle yeah but it was no it was the spinny thing they cut I wish I could find I'll try and find the raw material of me it was like something was going I was so much lighter than the boys they even said after I thought I was gonna die I was screaming for help I was like my head is coming off my body
Starting point is 01:05:46 and my hands were being rubbed off my back like my body was contorting and even Stephen and Callum were like, I don't think this is right. And then after it, the production team were like, well, we didn't expect that to happen. And I was like, where's Risky when you need him? Well, they were just laughing. They were like, I think she's okay. But my head was, my body was an angle it shouldn't have been. And I could not control it. It was so funny. It's like when you go on, have you ever been on the Gravitron at like the Easter carnival where you get sucked to the wall? It was like that on steroids. So I, when I was really little, I must've been like 10 years old. My mom let me go on that and I vomited. But if you vomit on the Gravitron, the vomit, well, the vomit doesn't go
Starting point is 01:06:23 anywhere. The vomit stays still, but everyone else spins around the vomit. So everyone on the Gravitron got smacked by my vomit. It was bad. It was really bad. And I do have an axillian filtered from the jungle. I feel like the funniest parts of the jungle were, and I don't think they would have ever shown it, but it was at nighttime. So everything's quiet. Oh, it was like an orchestra and like i'd often be the last to go to bed it was an orchestra callum was the worst i could hear him from across the thing but everyone was just letting rip the women the men but they're asleep so you don't know but it was like the whole night and i just thought this would have been the best montage did you try and figure out who had done it i told everyone every morning i was like
Starting point is 01:07:04 who wants to know who farted and i would just tell them but it was hilarious so completely asleep doing it although just like whatever i didn't care anymore no they're asleep yeah yeah they no one actually was walking around letting them rip the best montage the production i think should have put a montage of fighting together brit i'm so happy that you're back i'm so happy that i don't i hope you got out of it what you went in there for i wanted to win so okay you did it i hope you got something out of it but also i mean i think it's so cool to be able to say yes to these opportunities where you do things that put you so far outside your comfort zone you don't know what it is that it's almost like you can't go in there with an expectation around what you want out of
Starting point is 01:07:40 it because you don't know what you're expecting and I think every reality tv show is kind of like that where you're like you know the beast of it but at the same time you really don't know what it is that you're going to feel or how you're going to think about it because it's a completely foreign experience yeah and I genuinely I say I wanted to win of course I did you want to win for your charity and you go in there and go through it all for that point but I loved every second I had a great time I made friends it was a once in a lifetime opportunity and I just want to thank all you guys for supporting me and I know how many of you were sending the votes in obviously not enough but we'll leave that one no people were and every episode we drilled that people were so
Starting point is 01:08:16 amazing like everyone sharing on socials everyone voting I know you guys I thank you so much for your support because I have seen it since I've come out and I it really warmed my heart and for producer Keisha and Jono and you Laura holding down the fort doing my socials doing such an amazing job and supporting me from the outside but anyway guys that is it from us we'll be back tomorrow with an interview episode and then things are back just as they were like nothing ever happened like i never left all right well that's it you know the drill tell your mom tell your dad tell your dog tell your friends and share the love because we love love Thank you.

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