Life Uncut - Mucus Plugs, Sage Sticks & The 'Unfortunately I Do Love' Trend

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Hey lifers!Laura is begging for her labour to start so she can…have a day off 😂. What helped bring on your labour? People have really tried almost everything. Would you rather s3x or a stair run? Neither is an option.Britt is in her *spiritual era. She has been saging her house for a pretty unusual reason. Are you a sager? What have you saged to get rid of? We have created a ‘push playlist’ for Laura. She wants a pumped up mix. We kicked it off with Diana Ross “I’m coming out”. We’d love for you to add your songs to the playlist!! PLEASE ADD YOUR SONGS HERE - PUSH IT REAL GOOD PLAYLIST Everyone on TikTok is reclaiming what they “unfortunately love" and we created our own list of guilty pleasures. Some of these things we should probably be ashamed of and not admit publicly. We take a bit of a shift in gears and chat about an “Am I The A-Hole” we saw on reddit. Do you think it's wrong to tell someone that you're worried about having to cover the cost of their deaths? Have you had those conversations with your loved ones? You can watch us on Youtube Find us on Instagram Join us on tiktok Or join the Facebook Discussion Group Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! XxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode was recorded on Camaragal land. Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Brittany. I'm Laura. Hi everyone. It's almost D-Day. We're remiss of us not to say that. Sorry, lost my mucus plug everyone. Woo! Did you officially? Was that from the sweep last night?

Well, this is going to be confusing for anyone because we recorded next week's episode yesterday. Don't confuse it more. No, but I need to explain this because if you're listening next week, I will say this on next week's episode because I lost a bit and then I had my stretch and sweep and now it's all gone. It was a good time for the obstetrician. The stretch and sweep takes the mucus plug out? No, it doesn't necessarily.

Just drains it out? No, it dislodges, I guess, stuff in that area. And so had my stretch and sweep and then this morning woke up and did not have a mucus plug. Did you find it? Where is it? Where's it gone? It slipped right out of bed? It was in my underwear.

Did Lola take it with the vibrator? She's like, what are all these things I collect from mum's bed? That's so disgusting. This is such a fun way to start this episode, going straight into mucus plugs in the space of 15 seconds. Of course, spade to spade. No, it just, yeah, it was gone. It doesn't just evaporate.

No, it goes in your underwear and then you wash your undies. like what do you reckon where do you reckon it goes like getting a period or something brit doesn't just like fly out the door of course like a magical plug but it also doesn't mean anything because like you get all these like little signs and symptoms that maybe you're going into labor and it's just i think it does mean something for some people some people go into labor like straight away afterwards but like same thing i lost mine with marley like three weeks earlier or a month earlier my obstetrician was like nah you're fine you're probably not going to go into labor never did still pregnant with Marley you haven't she's still in there okay well this is a

good step in the right direction it is I woke up this morning though feeling particularly disappointed I rolled over to Matt this morning and he's like what is wrong with you and I was like I don't want to go into work I just want to be in labor I don't know what that has to say about us but if someone would rather go into labor than hang out with us I think we need to reevaluate i really wanted the day off but of course you're giving birth in a week i don't want to go to work i'm not even pregnant but i'm still here waiver is not a day off surely it is for laura it is when like you never take a sick day like i never ever ever take a sick day unless i am shitting the bed i do not take sick days so for me i was i'm just really looking forward to it

having an early mark that is true the only day you took off here was when you shit the bed It was. I had really bad diarrhea and pneumonia. Guys, I had pneumonia and I got made to come into work with pneumonia. Not by you. Hang on. Not us. I told you to stay home.

By the warlords. Yeah, the people that pay our bills. They were like, get your ass to work. No, look, I mean, I don't have any more updates for you today. We do do a big deep dive next week on like all the pre-baby birth stuff because it is next week is my last episode on the show. um if forever I'm going I'm going to retire but what about so are you having sexy time and stuff you're trying to get it out no no but that would that apparently works if you if you pokes it so

yeah okay apparently we were up until about a week ago but I'm just I'm so done now like there's so much going on inside me that I can't stuff anything else in there I just can't and I asked my obstetrician that was fucking gross if only I knew the producer I think I cut that out I asked my obstetrician yesterday, because everyone says it's not just having sex, it's also semen. So semen has some hormone in it that helps to like soften your cervix, right? Is that so? Yeah, apparently so. And I spoke to my obstetrician about it and he laughed and he goes, he goes, yes, that's what people say. He goes, however.

That's what the men say. Where's the research? He goes, however, research has shown that you would need at least a litre of semen to have enough of the hormone for it to make any difference. So let your husband keep telling you that. Think about that for a minute. That's not a visual anymore. It's like Alita. So anyone who's telling you that like the semen itself is what softens the cervix. God, girl, you're doing a lot of sex. Well done. Congratulations. It's like the homeopathy of trying to bring on labor. So what are the, what are the other things that are supposed to bring on labor at this point?

Okay. So I did actually did a call out on my Instagram. Cause I was like, like, let me know what's worked for you. People have tried everything. Like there's the walking on the gutter. So you basically do like an uneven walk. So you walk with one foot on the gutter and one foot down. That feels pretty like mythical. And you do that for 20 minutes and then you swap to the other side. Well, no, the unevenness of it is supposed to like push the baby down. A lot of people say walking or stair runs, like doing exercise helps to push the baby down.

People are telling you to do stair runs. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's exactly what you feel like doing. When you say I can't be bothered to have sex and then someone says, well, what about a stair run? Run a marathon. Both of those kind of fall in the same category at the moment. You'd rather just lay there and have sex. acupuncture on thursday this week i'm going for so from a timeline perspective for you guys it's

tuesday now thursday this week i'm going for another stretch and sweep and then i'm going for a pregnancy massage but not like a cute pregnancy massage like a induction massage that they do so honestly who knows baby's gonna come when baby's gonna come how's that for a mythical i don't know if that's true as well like i think things do bring it on there's two other things there's like clary sage oil like having a bath in clary sage oil oh my god i was literally just about to say do you want me to come and sage your house i've been saging not just britney made me take sage home from her house the other day and i was like i don't want this well you have you took it you forced me to take it sorry i'm done with the baby chat we're at the sage point in your life

you're saging your house now i sage my house like evil spirits like what is that and i don't want to Poo-poo, because I know a lot of people sage their houses. This is like – I knew she wouldn't understand, Keisha. This is the spiritual girl shit that I just don't – I haven't quite got my head around. What are you doing with the sage? So, okay.

Do you do a little mantra? Okay, let me talk you through it. Basically, I saw the lightning bolt in my bedroom. Sorry. A few weeks ago, I did speak about it on the radio, but I don't think it made it to the podcast. I think Laura vetoed it. So I saw in my room in the morning –

I'll just quickly set this up I got up Delilah was on my bed I went into my ensuite to have a shower and now the room was dark because the blinds were still down it was like 6 30 in the morning and I leave my bathroom door open and I can see from my shower into my room so Delilah's just chilling on my bed I'm in the shower and then there was only a dull lamp in my room I see like this flash of just light like a really big flash of light just once and there's nothing it could be i'm not imagining it it was like a lightning bolt of light in my room and there's no window there's no natural light there's nothing electrical surge from what the electricals in your house do you have that flash thing on your phone you know how you can get notifications and it flashes guys

i know what a fucking flash off the phone is no not the normal one you can have your actual flash go off on your phone no I know and I'm on do not disturb at 6 30 in the morning and the spirits didn't listen to that they disturbed me they pushed notification they pushed anyway so I'm in the shower anyway and just to double down when the flash happened Delilah went she felt something so and she doesn't nothing bothers Delilah she will invite a murderer into my bedroom like she will she if somebody broke into my house she'd be like this way she's down here like she's so welcoming I shouldn't say that to people but she's a guard dog savage but she like growled and just looked uneasy for a second and she was fine but she also felt it or

saw it anyway yes that's my story I saw something that afternoon we spoke about on radio I got so many messages from people that heard it in the car that said that they have experienced the same thing anyway so yes did I order some sage sticks to sage my house yes I did how's it going I I saged so much that I think I was high and felt unwell. I was like, I don't know if you've smelled a sage stick. It's so intense. It's like a fist, right? They're so thick and you're like at the end.

I went into every room. But you know you're not meant to smoke them, right? And then I smoked it. Hang on, what? What? You're not? You just waved around a room a couple of times. I thought I had to sage myself internally.

What? You don't masturbate with it? What? i'm leaving that in there's always one that goes too far it's always you i i saged so much and my house is quite small there's not a lot of ventilation and i i made myself sick and claire and keisha so claire was on the podcast a few weeks ago she was speaking about the ai dating you guys remember claire and keisha were both over and i'd saged before they came because I didn't want the spirit to attach itself to them.

I actually don't know who I work with anymore. I've always been this person. I just never felt like I could beat my triscle. Sorry, did not put me in the category with Brittany. Okay, you took the sage stick. I actually, I haven't told you this, but I made Claire take both. I dropped Claire home on the way back and I was like, Claire, I feel guilty. I'm not going to use this.

I don't like the smell. That's why I said, I don't like waste. I was like, please, please, please take it. I'm not going to use this. I'm going to feel guilty that Britt's wasted $10. Don't get me wrong because I feel like sage sticks kind of like fall into self-care category. Like I'm not poo-pooing them because I feel like a lot of people do it

because it's part of their like wellness and they're kind of, you know, clearing the space or whatever. I'm all for that. But if you're doing it because you think your house is haunted, I don't know. Okay, it's three categories, right? Was my house haunted? Yes.

So I did need to sage the spirits away. B, it was definitely a self-care thing. I'm super into my Pilates this year, which I haven't, I've always dabbled in it and done it. And now I'm consistently like four or five days a week and I'm really into the breathing and they always wave these sticks around and like, it just, I'm really into it. So I went and got them for that. And then C, I feel like I've had a lot going on internally, like in my brain, just trying to make some really big life decisions. And like, I just feel like there's a lot going on and I get really exhausted. And it was like a resetting of the space as well. Like I wanted to just,

I don't know if it might be a placebo thing but I felt like I needed to do something to reset in my in my space I don't know if that makes sense it sounds crazy I've not done that before but I was like hey I'll try anything right now kind of makes sense you've been spring cleaning and clearing things out point c actually does make sense to me and right now I've actually just realized some of my neighbors like to smoke a lot of weed so I probably could have done with some sage to clear out the smell exactly but anyway I had to leave my house for a while because if you guys have saged before if you're about to sage you gas yourself out you need just a second couple of seconds and then make sure you've got ventilation i have like a sage headache i would just like to

bring everyone back we got onto this by me saying that clary sage induces pregnancy well i saw my opportunity to segue no i loved it i really wanted to lean in hard because i was very confused okay well speaking of actually this is not a segue it doesn't segue at all i was going to say speaking of houses that stink but sorry I think you meant speaking of houses that are cleansed no the smallest thing happened this morning and it was just a really humbling experience I wanted to share it with you all so Marley never she never cuddles me like she only cuddles Matt if she gets up in the nighttime she will walk around my bed to go to Matt's side and cuddle with him I think it's because when the kids were little like Lola would always be on my side

so it's just habit now but yeah she always preferences a nighttime cuddle with Matt over a nighttime cuddle with me and it kills me. It breaks me. I'm destroyed by it. That's why I had a third. I'm ruined. Try again. I messed up with my first child.

I needed to have another one. This morning Matt was in bed with Lola because she was having a bit of a hard night so he slept in her bed last night. Molly woke up, realised there wasn't enough room in the single bed for the three of them. So she was like, fuck, I guess I'll go cuddle mum. She saunters in, defeated. She goes, well, dad's in that bed.

I guess I'll cuddle you. And I was like, okay, come on, sweetie. I was like, it makes me so happy. And I go to cuddle her. So she's in the cuddle. We're like, we're in a little spoon. And she goes, God, you smell like vomit and makeup. You smell like what?

Vomit? Vomit and makeup. I was like, wow. Did you vomit it? No. I just had morning breath apparently. I was like, it's okay, sweetie. I'll just breathe over here.

Vomit and makeup. That was the first thing that my six-year-old told me this morning. It's worse because it would be okay if you'd vomited. It's worse because you hadn't. I hadn't. I just stink like vomit and makeup. No wonder she doesn't want to cuddle me. I'm just mad in the morning actually.

Lola doesn't care. Lola would take me at my worst. That is very humbling. Yeah. Before we get into anything, there is something we want your help with. We have decided as our gift to Laura, because we're just so generous, our gift is we want to create a push playlist, a birthing playlist. yeah a life uncut birthing playlist yeah so Laura will be the person to christen it obviously and

then it's anyone's for the taking anyone that is having a baby you can take it but we want it to be like a group effort well the reason why this is happening is because there's so many birthing playlists on Spotify but like I don't need a calm birth like I actually I want a pumped up mix I want like a not quite a party mix but I want something that's yeah I want some pop music in there i want some hottest 100s like i just want a fun uplifting playlist that's like a really good mashup of songs we've made the playlist in spotify under life uncut yeah we just need you guys to help us create it i guess to kind of like set the tone for what it's going to be the first song on there is push it real good and i'm pretty sure it's push it is the name push it real good life

uncut is the name and then at britney's request we added a description do you want to tell us what that is for it? I can't remember word for word It's Life is Giving Life. I'll help you out there. For all the life is giving life. I'm sorry, why are you guys mocking that? It's beautiful and brilliant simultaneously. Keisha's a spiritual hero isn't she? What was your recommendation?

My very first song that I added to it is I'm Coming Out by Dan. I'm coming out. I want the world to know. I should add some Just Breathe by Pearl Jam. I feel like that could be good when you're in there i don't think it has to just be puns though for pushing out and births like i think

it's just you want a mix of like we want eminem to rihanna to ed sheeran like we want quite a ride i want a variety i don't think i necessarily want eminem but that's okay i can you know i'm example i just i want upbeat i want fun i want everyone in that birthing suite to be in a good mood it's a party poppy's being born to a party you can't risk it all being party mix you need to have something for in-between contractions when you're, like, taking a minute. So you need some Ed Sheeran sprinkled in. Alex Warren.

You know I love him. Alex Warren. There's some examples here. Don't Panic by Coldplay. Let It Go by James Bay. I don't know. Coldplay feels like a little bit – I still want it to be – It's tainted this year, isn't it?

Yeah. It's ruined. It's ruined for me. Anyway, that's what we're asking you for. Send us your unconventional birthing playlist songs that we can add to this. We want it to be vibey. We want it to be relatively upbeat.

If you want to get real party party, I mean, we're going to veto them anyway so like send them on in and we'll make the list well I can actually just put the link to this in our show notes so you can add them yourselves and I'll put it in the Facebook group too Life Uncut discussion group if you're not already a member and you guys can add what you think will be good songs yeah okay we can delete them if they're terrible if they're really bad we will delete them don't feel personally victimized even though it is personal there's a new trend that has taken no I'm going to start that again it has taken the world by storm i wasn't gonna say that that's taking over tiktok which we do every hey there's

a trend that's going off on tiktok no there is okay there is a trend that has taken off on tiktok in the last couple of weeks it's also found its way to instagram hence why i've now discovered it since i'm barely on tiktok and it's called unfortunately i do love have you okay this is rhetorical because i know you've both seen it because i've made you prep but have you seen it it's basically where women or girls will write unfortunately i do love and then they have a list of all the things that like if they were cool girls or pick me girls they shouldn't actually love. Like if they were more relaxed or chill people,

they wouldn't necessarily love these things. But it's like admitting to all the stuff that maybe we're not supposed to like that much. But you know what? Fuck it. Lean into your girlhood. I don't know why you wrote the list correctly. I did start with unfortunately I do love younger men.

It's great. Is that great? No, that's great. That is great. I love that. But okay, Pedestrian actually wrote a really great article about this And like, it comes across as kind of like a pithy, silly little trend. And maybe it is that in itself, you know, like, unfortunately I do love XYZ, but one

of the things that they were talking about in this article and how they've broken it down, I really liked it. It's written by Laura Messiah and she wrote this, this week, I was reminded of the joys of girlhood when TikTok trend landed on my For You page. The trend saw people, mostly women, share pics and videos of themselves alongside a list of things that they shamelessly love, like an overpriced fancy coffee, rehashing drama with their friends over brunch or buying a new dress for every occasion despite its slightly negative connotations and it's because and this is me paraphrasing things that are particularly

girly or things that as women we enjoy are usually seen as silly and frivolous whereas like if a woman's crying at a Justin Bieber concert and this is an example is used it's seen as being like lame and silly whereas if a man's crying at a football match because his favorite team just won that's like that's hot yeah well that's sport that's heroism it's all those things i actually wonder whether this is a little bit of a pushback to so much self-optimization content that we've had over the last couple years like everything's about you know your morning rituals put your phone down get in the ice bath ironic i'd love a nice bath that would be on my list unfortunately i do love unfortunately i do love that so i kind of wonder whether we're just we're now admitting

to guilty pleasures and being like let's just take you know let's take the pressure off a little bit kate hudson shared a video and hers said unfortunately i do love ignoring my texts getting wine drunk a microphone a girl's trip not wearing pants online shopping misplacing my phone dancing in public and a filthy martini i do love all those things as well i read that and i was like kate hudson sounds like a girl i want to be friends with 100 percent britney what was your list okay tell me if i don't understand it but unfortunately i do love younger men packing so many clothes for a trip but no actual outfits to wear I'm wearing the same thing every day cancelled plans saying that I can't make it because my friend needs me but my friend is my dog

couch running for hours and watching a full series ignoring all messages and emails eating cereal for dinner fancy overpriced iced strawberry matcha that my dog is one of my best friends I love it you nailed it yeah nailed the assignment there were other things but I dropped them I think they were the main ones but my vibrator um unfortunately I love saging with a I mean masturbating with a sage stick no what was on your list okay unfortunately I do love doom scrolling complaining about pregnancy but also being pregnant having my phone on do not disturb even when I'm not actually working saying I'm going to the gym early but then sleeping in margaritas unpacking my friend's relationship dramas elasticized waistbands on pants buying

books with actually having zero intention of ever reading them buying skincare products using them religiously for a week and then never using them again only shaving my ankles and slick back buns because you haven't seen my knees in weeks so who cares that's so funny my list says unfortunately i do love sending voice notes but then rolling my eyes when i receive one that's over a minute Yeah. Stimulants for breakfast, coffee and dexamphetamines. I mean, we shouldn't be promoting that, but only if you're diagnosed. Reading a message in the display on my phone, but then not replying to it for hours.

Watching the same two shows over and over. Making up a voice for my dog. Staying friends with my exes. Putting salt on everything. My clip-in fringe. Having 423 group chats and losing my phone. The staying friends with the exes one, that's a standout for you. It really is, Keisha.

that is part of your that's your whole personality he's a really nice guy but we should be friends Keisha also just asked if we could go and hang out with my auntie she's like I really like her she's 70 my auntie Maureen's great she is great but just how much you want to be friends with everyone I'm like where's the time yeah yeah that's true you know what unfortunately I do love over committing social plans you do you do but you know what you're actually very good at keeping of all of my friends you're very good at keeping like the promise of committing to social plans I'm the one that's like that sounds great don't call me Laura do not disturb which doesn't answer I complain about never being invited to anything but I have my phone on perpetually do

not disturb I have no idea what's going on in anyone's life saying I can't make it because my friend needs me but my friend is my dog yes we all feel it I love this guys please do your unfortunately I do love list send them to us put them up on socials like I feel like these are the small things that we can all relate to because even in the stuff that you've read out I was like yes of course i know we say we shouldn't do this because we're meant to be we're meant to be more enlightened humans than this but truly we're all the same trash well i did add in i didn't read it but i did have trying every single skincare product and treatment possible like on the market if so if there is something out there i have done it like the salmon sperm i have so much sperm in

my face that's wild and it's not my husband she can bring on labor my husband i could sit on your face there's at least a leader in there please don't do not please it would bring it would bring on labor. I can't even imagine that. Get that visual out of my head. Okay. Well, after all that fun, I think it's time to talk about some death. Great. So bear with me. This is an am I the asshole that came up and got us having a bit of a conversation between ourselves because I think it's something that, well, it is something that every single family is going to have to talk about or go through at some point. So I think as much as it doesn't seem relatable, it actually really is. Now this am I the asshole is coming from somebody in America. So like when I read it

to you, just keep in mind, it's got things like Medicaid and whatever. So my husband's parents live with us in our home rent free. Until recently, my father-in-law's primary entertainment was using his social security income to go to the casino. So like he's a gambler. So now he's unable to go by himself. And my mother-in-law has taken over his finances. She's concerned that he has too much money in his account to qualify for Medicaid because it's been building up over the past few months. I suggested that she pay for their phone bill or that she meet with our local funeral director and start planning for their funeral because it would be considerate to us. My daughter told me that I was being mean. I told her that my own grandmother had done just that

and we enjoyed a lovely luncheon at a restaurant afterwards with the family. But I did send my mother-in-law a text with some funeral home pre-planning information. Is my daughter right? Am I a jerk for messaging her this and suggesting that she spend money by pre-paying for their own funerals? To me, it is wild. It is a wild thought that people don't think about the fact that they're going to die. Like that we don't plan for our own deaths.

Like that to me is... I think it's denial. I don't, but also like when I read this and I guess maybe as a parent myself, I would never want to burden my children with the financial responsibility of paying for a funeral. And especially if they had maybe assumed that I had enough money to pay for it myself, you know, like if I'd just been, if I was like, I'm going to blow my load before I leave this earth and didn't pay for a single thing. And then, you know, it came around to like having a funeral and everything else. My kids had no inheritance, but also they had to pay to put me in the ground. I feel like

that's such an unrealistic expectation. The thing is though, usually a lot of people don't necessarily think about their funeral costs, but they will have some money left over that they'll leave, whether it's a house or it's a, you know, so that, that kind of stuff gets settled down the track anyway. Surely that stuff takes a while to settle though. It takes a long time to settle. I didn't, I actually had no idea. I Googled this yesterday. The average cost of a funeral in Australia typically falls between $4,000 and $15,000. It said that the factors that can change are things like whether you choose burial or cremation, the type of service, and the location that you have the service.

I don't even think that includes canapes. I think that's just the casket. Also the coffin. So, like, this, okay, this is grim, and I know we started on such a high. We're ending on such a low, literally. But the casket itself is so varied in price. Like, my nan, rest in peace, like, she wanted to be cremated, and we only had a sitting for her.

A sitting casket? She had to. You're sitting up. Fucking, you poor nan. Let her lay down. It was more expensive for the length than it was for the height. She's like, yeah, we compressed it. We put her in a ball.

Come on. Just dropped it down a pipe. Once again, rest in peace, Nana. No, we love you. No, I do. No, she didn't. Look, she outlived everyone. She was a stubborn, stubborn woman and she stayed for way longer than all of her friends

and majority of her family. So she always said that I do not want a funeral. no one will come and so we had a sitting for her no no no they're all dead no one's gonna come I've got no friends everyone cared but there was just no one left to come so she wanted it it's called a sitting it's where like you have like five or six people there and their coffin can be open or closed it's just a really intimate ceremony there's no formalities no one gets up and speaks or anything like that you just go in individually and say your goodbyes and that was a weird situation because it was like just a cardboardy ply box it wasn't fancy

we put a big sheet over it and had like beautiful flowers on it and stuff so the flowers were probably more expensive than the box to be honest because she was being cremated so it seemed silly to spend four thousand dollars on a beautiful casket that was just gonna go straight into being cremated whereas like you know it's different when I think I think it's different when it's someone who's younger or if they're going to be buried and there's a ceremony around the funeral, then I think you would invest more in a casket and they can be like $4,000.

Yeah, look, they're expensive. I think it depends, but a lot of people's, I think, life insurance can also help pay for things like that. There's usually funeral cover in life insurance. I think it's something that you have picked as well. Like you can have different extras, but funeral cover is definitely one. I don't know a single person with life insurance. I have life insurance.

Do you? Yeah, of course. You don't even have health insurance. Sorry, that will make more sense next week. I have life insurance because I have children. So I think when you have debt, which we do, you know, a lot of debt. Significant amount of debt. When you have an eye-watering amount of debt and you have kids,

like you have to have life insurance to ensure that like if Matt and I get toppled off tomorrow that they're going to be okay and not be like, you know, a five and six-year-old get to work, kids pay off, mommy and daddy's dead. You should see the life Delilah is going to live if I leave. that dog do you have a wheel yeah I have everything that see that's interesting I'm really behind the eight ball with that I need to have a wheel because I've got kids and I need to update it yeah I had a wheel from 22 this is the thing though I think that most people who are our

age it's different once you've had children I think a lot of people become a bit more aware that it's such an imperative thing to have and as a parent you do become aware that you're not going to be alive for forever like I think it's something it's like one of those intrusive thoughts that you have but I would say that a lot of people our age don't really think about the fact that like life is not infinite I have a question on that if you don't have a will then like what is going to happen if you pass away tomorrow like who would get all the who's going to get the debt so who's going to get Bonnie if you Laura had to pick between Keisha and myself to raise your kids I would choose my sister no that's not that's out of this it's me or Keisha

who is it excuse me sorry if you say choice oh i already half raised brit's kid if i give my your kids would learn italian would be traveling the world they'd have chicken nuggets if i give my kids to you they'll be with the dog walker i would never because i'd take your life insurance they'd have a great life i have a great life okay the big question in this is do you think it's an inappropriate thing to talk to your parents about because i know that obviously we've used this as a bit of a springboard question but think about it like would you and have you felt comfortable to speak to your parents about the fact that they're getting older and what is their plan I have a slightly different thought on this now I would have said that you know it's a

bit of an awkward one to raise with your family and a bit of an awkward conversation to have but I kind of sit in two camps now because firstly Ellie is so okay we're talking about it like Ellie is Matt's mum and if you're new to the podcast she lives with us and has done for almost the last two years now Ellie has everything covered and is very vocal around who's getting what where it's going so that the way when she passes away there's no family rift no one is unsure about what the plan is very clear and then I think about you know my my stepdad who passed away last year it's been literally a year since he passed away he was very much in denial I think a lot around talking about death like and he didn't want to talk about it and there was a lot

that had to get organized afterwards and I think if you don't get clear with that stuff with your family it just creates so much more heartbreak for everyone who's left to try and figure it out in a fair and equitable way and not everyone always feels like it's fair and just going back a second as well to wills because Keisha looked really shocked when you know we said we had wills and I said I had a will since I was 22. If you have a property or any asset, you should have a will because if something, if you have anything that is of value and you don't know where it could go, then you should have a will. Who wants a Hex debt? Not quite, not quite, because it's something that should be able to make money. Like if you sell a

house, no one's going to buy your Hex debt, right? So it's just something to think about because of course like tragedies happen and you don't want to think that that's going to happen, but it's just a safeguarding. Yeah. And I mean, in your case, Keisha, obviously you own a house with your partner which you now you know the bank owns a house with your partner but the plan is is like if you were to if something horrible happened tomorrow would you want your partner to have the entirety of it or would you want it to go to your you know your nieces and your nephews or yeah like is there someone else in that equation that would be the priority and these are all things that we just don't think about because we're too young to you know process it for ben

who's i have not updated my will currently ben gets nothing so i do you do need to like amend it you can like an amenda will so it's um I do need to do that but it's interesting because I have spoken to my parents about more about what they want or like how they would want like in terms of like cremation or burial or where they want to be buried we've sort of spoken about that but we've bypassed I couldn't tell you if they've looked after their funeral costs or not I couldn't tell you what kind of insurance they have and that's a question that I think probably I'm in denial about like it's one of those things it's hard to talk about because to bring up the thought of someone you love not being here like I could cry right now thinking about it but it's a

conversation that I know you need to have but I remember my parents and I think this is what I would want to do my mum has said that she would love and dad actually that they'd love to be like cremated down into made into jewelry like so that we could wear them I would love that if I could if this could be my mum on my finger or like my dad in a necklace around because people do that they like use the ashes so they make it into jewelry and then you get to wear that piece of them forever I think that there's something slightly psychotic but cool about that as well they do we get heaps of requests for this through Tony Bay it's not a service that we provide so unfortunately we have to say no she's got a cremation out the back you're like bring him in

well no because the thing is is the people who do that like we work with semi-precious stones and set them into jewelry but the people who use cremations and use them to make a gemstone they're actually resin workers so they put it into resin and they create like a fake stone and then they polish the stone up so there's a process there that like we don't do but people ask for all kinds of things breast milk yeah semen breast milk enjoy we have had every request that you we had someone message us because their partner was getting a vasectomy and they wanted to keep his last load yep and i was like wow into what a ring a necklace a cock ring i have no a respectful way to respond to that there's nothing there's a going back to the death

thing because i think we can respect i understand why people would want to make like cremate into jewelry or cremate into like a keepsake yeah we don't do it but we get heaps and heaps and heaps of requests for it i do need to update that conversation because even that conversation was a few years ago like they might not want to be in a ring anymore so you know that they don't fit the whole person in a ring it's just a tiny sprinkle just fyi but i wouldn't want the whole person in there because it's a kilo if you lost it though so many carrots so many carrots like I wouldn't be able to pick my hand up no but if you imagine if you lost that jury then you knew you'd lost the whole part of them like where's mom has anyone seen mom she's down the side of the lounge

again taking this a little bit more seriously and I think it's something that's like worth us all considering especially if you're kind of like in this age group and you have aging parents I'm actually in the position where I still have three of my grandparents yeah well very late 80s some of them are in their nineties now. Actually, most of them are in their nineties. And I feel kind of guilty because these are not conversations that I've had with them. I don't know whether my mom and my dad have had the conversation with their parents respectively, but maybe this is a really privileged position to be in. I have always assumed that if they are to pass away, my family, like the younger generations, whether that be my brother and I, or whether that be my parents,

we would be able to afford a funeral for them. To be fair though, I didn't know that they came to $15,000. I thought it was going to be like three. And so I was like, cool, if we split the cost of that, like, we'll be okay to cover that. But it's more so, so it's not so much the financial thing that I worry about it. It's just more that I think I would feel awkward asking them. Well, it's one thing to raise the conversation yourself, but I think a lot of times elderly people in our lives want to have these conversations with us. They'll be like, oh, when I die, you can have this. And when I die, like I'm going to give this to Sally or whatever. and I know with my nan and it's one of my biggest regrets is that anytime she would bring that up

I'd always be like nan you're gonna live forever yeah and I would make the joke and I would shut the conversation down I never explored where that conversation would have gone if I'd given it the air time and she tried to bring it up a lot never in like a hey I want to sit down and talk about my will and like my plans but it was brought up in like a little off the cuff way and I didn't give it the space for it to grow into a conversation that would have been something that would have been valuable for all of us because it made me uncomfortable now that I've been through the process of losing quite a few people in my life who are either elderly or not even elderly but just really important people I've realized that those conversations are not things that we should

shy away from like they're so valuable and you will regret not having them when they're not here you will regret that you thought they were going to be here forever and I wish I'd given my nan and my papa and yeah it's denial everyone just like more time to have those conversations you guys might remember i don't know how long ago it was six months ago maybe that could be way out of touch but i had a conversation on here about how i'd gone up to port macquarie with my family i went to a football match with um my nana to watch my niece play football she's she plays afl and nana just like held her hand up and she goes which one of these do you want when i die and like it was a hijori and i was like nana i was like which one's the biggest yeah i was like

well tell me in order of expense uh no but i was like what i was like no no no i was like we're not having this conversation here now. She was like, no, she's like, just, just pick which ones you want. Your sister's already picked. She was like through sheriff and under the bus. And I was like, well, hang on. What did she pick? I was like, why did you give her? But we ended up as much as I wanted to say, that's not going to happen. My Nana is 86. And I'm saying, yeah, I'll have this one then. And I was like, she's brought it up. She wants to have the conversation. And it was very, my Nana would never sit in it. Very throwaway. Like it was just a moment. I told her what I'd have, which felt weird, but she wanted it. And then we moved on. But I think

Going back to this particular question, like this lady's question, there's one part that didn't sit right with me and I think like this is a delicate conversation a lot of the time and for her to say, I did send my mother-in-law a text with funeral home pre-planning info, that's pretty shitty to like just not be really having conversations, open your phone and be like, hey, just like here's a fucking funeral info if you, you know, out of the blue. Yeah, it's an avoidant person.

Well, it takes away the moment that you get to have which is like actually a sentimental or important moment where you can unpack it together it makes it very impersonal and it's like here's your thing for you to plan for you rather than death being like a family experience that everyone will go through together but it's also very isolating like you don't know where your mother-in-law is in that moment or you don't know if she's with anyone imagine someone on their own opening up something and then having to face the the idea that hey i am gonna die soon and like if i can i better go plan my death here now on my own and pay for it like that's a pretty shitty moment I think that these conversations as much as we laugh and make a joke about it

obviously it's very serious and we are joking they are conversations and maybe your family is going to laugh about it I know mine will make a joke about it because that's what they do but we will still get to the bottom of the conversation but yeah it's it is really important to talk about what you want because there's no worse feeling than when a family member passes away and the unsurity you're like hang on do we cremate them or bury them what did they want like because you want to honor them in that moment and if you haven't had the convo it's like a pretty confronting thing for you to feel, to be like, I don't even know how they want to go. Well, it is time for Suck and Sweet, our highlight and our low light.

I will kick it off. My Suck and my Sweet are the same thing in a way. How confusing. Well, they're about Delilah, but my Suck this week was Delilah got attacked by a dog. She is okay, but it was like really scary. You also got attacked by the dog. Well, yes, I would put my body on the line for Delilah and I did. And the dog did bite me multiple times.

I did get savaged by a dog. but Delilah is fine but she was really it was really scary yeah and she was so shaken up so yeah that was my suck and my sweet is Delilah as well Delilah has been on a couple of weeks of intensive weight loss and she's at a really good weight yeah great news so I know everyone's on the edge of the seat will she won't she she will I'm I'm really happy for her I'm so so glad she snatched for summer it's because and also our dog walkers are in on it as well like her dog walker harry and beck well they're also starving her out no but they all they also know and harry came back and he's like she's looking really good he's like lean he's like lean and

mean she's trimmed up she's like so i she look i know it sounds like i don't have much she's the apple of my eye and that she's it her longevity is my focus no i relate to that so much i mean poor buster he thinks we are literally starving him out every day he's like i'm so thin i'm wasting away but we took him to the like to the dentist we took him to the vet the dentist said we couldn't feed him anymore we took him to the vet and i think i mentioned this on radio but the vet was saying that because he's because he's got three legs and he was busy he was yeah one got chopped off when he was a puppy crazy story he's got three legs he was pretty fat like he's getting fat and like his mobility was really slowing down and he's lost so much weight now now i look at him

I'm like, but you're so skinny. But he's also really fast. You should see how agile he is. I'm really. He runs fast when he's hungry. I'm really. He's chasing those rabbits. I'm really toxic myself in this cycle because I get her to this point.

We've been here before. And I'm like so proud of you. So then she has nachos again and we just go back to where we were. So it's like it's a fit and up. I've just got to maintain it this week and not give her the extra treats. My suck for the week is that I'm still pregnant. So that's a suck. I'd love to go into labor.

uh every day that i'm not every day that i'm not in labor is a day that is a disappointment but you're not even gonna take time off anyway like you say that i can't wait to have a baby so i can have time off you're just coming with the baby yeah no it's not about not being actually i'm joking it's actually got nothing to do with work i'm just really looking forward to one meeting this human and two not actually being pregnant anymore i wonder which one it's gonna look like or his own i reckon it's gonna be a mix of the both because like lola and marley look so different and i reckon they're gonna it's gonna be like a little hybrid amalgamation yeah that's what that's what we're going for anyway and my sweet for the week it's very kid related but we had a kid's

birthday party on the weekend Jago love him love their family love them all rock climbing we went rock climbing we took the kids rock climbing and like my I didn't mean to tell your story then but I know other parents that went so I know that you went rock climbing they're like we went rock climbing with Nikki and Eddie yeah so we took the kids rock climbing and sometimes I think I underestimate my children not intentionally but I underestimate where they're at in terms of their confidence like their capability as well yeah and like I know that they're capable of it don't gonna be wrong but more so I also know that they're quite sensitive and like sometimes trying new things they'll do they'll try it they'll always try but they get wigged out really easily

and so Lola tried rock climbing and she got a quarter of the way up the wall and she was like I'm scared like it's so high and they're holding on for dear life and I was like oh fuck mate we've just driven 45 minutes and you're now not gonna do it this is gonna be the rest of the party no she was literally in arm's reach still she barely made it up the wall okay anyway you know then she kind of like oh her and Marley both they kind of kind of observed what the other kids were doing and then they gave it a red hot crack afterwards like they kind of built the confidence up and they were so good at it like they was crazy good I saw them spider-man up that wall yeah there wasn't there wasn't even any rocks to hold on to they just literally went up a wall

no but it was it was really cool it was really cool to see just how like the bravery that they have when they feel like they're good at something and I mean I can only imagine that climbing because the rock climbs that they were doing are to the same height as the adult ones they're just obviously easier in terms of handholds so they were like so far off the ground and they were just loving it and it was really cool so that was my that was my highlight cute fucking yeah go girls you're a little rock climbers now that's really cute you'll never take them again i know i will laura's off soccer now she hates it now she wants to do rock climbing i'm like fuck here we are i can tell you where one is that's probably closer but not on radio because not on air because no one cares

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