Life Uncut - Offcuts: Met Gala Served Nipples, A Reddit Thread About Men Who Stayed Too Long & The Corporate Worker Who Did Nothing for 12 Months
Episode Date: May 8, 2026Hey Lifers! Welcome to your weekend num num 🎙️ The Met Gala happened and we need to talk about the nipples. All the Kardashians coordinated sheer looks with visible nipples and Britt is calling i...t... this was a business decision, something Skims is coming. We also cover Kim's limo vlog, the Olympian who shot actual bubbles from her gown, Blake Lively showing up post-trial completely unbothered, and Zendaya quietly pulling the pin, which might be its own statement. Then a Reddit thread where men explained why they didn’t propose or finally left. One had “one foot out the door for years.” Another said the sex was “dog shit” but he was “too emotionally weak to end it.” We get into fertility vampires and why “I didn’t want to hurt her” isn’t landing the way they think it is. Next, a UK corporate worker who suspected her job might not be real and quietly did almost nothing for a year to test it. She sent a 15-minute task list on Monday mornings and a couple of emails to show she was online. No one noticed. She had to quit herself! We debate whether it’s actually her fault and how much work people are really doing anyway... It's Sir David Attenborough100th Birthday!! We celebrate accordingly. And we close with Holly Butcher’s viral letter, written at 27 before she passed from cancer, urging us to whinge less and give more - her perspective on life is worth sitting with this Saturday morning. ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS00:00 — Are we still doing the Met Gala? And why the vibe is shifting03:17 — The nipples: coordinated, intentional, and probably a Skims launch04:25 — Kim's behind-the-scenes vlog: late, lost her phone, can't move in the outfit08:01 — Met Gala chaos, bubble dresses & who actually delivered13:41 — The Reddit thread: why men didn't propose or finally left20:29 — The woman who did nothing at her corporate job for a year and no one noticed33:55 — Happy 100th birthday Sir David Attenborough40:00 — Holly’s letter: a final reminder on how to liveYou can watch us on Youtube Find us on Instagram Join us on tiktok Or join the Facebook Discussion Group Hosted by Britt Hockley & Laura Byrne Video & Audio Produced by Vanessa Beckford & Lachy Pugsley Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! XxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. I'm Brittany. And
this is our Off Cuts episode. Now if you are new to the podcast and you are starting right
here, this is just our little nommy nom nom episode. It's all the stuff that we've been
throwing around in the group chat. It's where all the bottom dwellers and all the dregs
come together and we make an episode out of it. No, it's not. Sometimes it's our best episode of
the week. It's where all the stinking bottom feeder shit goes. Now let's talk about the Met
Gala. What a good segue. Honestly though, the Met Gala, we are going to talk about the Met Gala.
How do you feel about it? Are we still doing it? Yes, we're still doing it. It was a rhetorical
question, Laura. Thank God. We are still doing it. We've never been invited. Look, I have a lot
of feelings last year we did a whole episode on the Met Gala two years ago or three years ago
the Met Gala felt like this elusive exclusive voyeuristic height of fashion it felt really
premium and cool and every single media outlet was talking about it and I just and everyone was
talking about it positively as well like we loved the Met Gala it was like the thing and this year
as I've been seeing things kind of pop up online and you know I mean this year the theme for it
was fashion is art so every year they have a different theme and obviously like the costumes
and the dresses are kind of like stylized around these themes as I was watching it and I was seeing
more shit pop up on the internet and like on socials I had this moment where I was like none
of these people are having a good time not a single person that is at the Met Gala is going
there just to enjoy themselves the amount of effort and work that's gone into being like
primped and primed and squeezed into the outfit and then they can't move and they're standing
there and they're I was like all of this just feels so incredibly dystopian it feels as though
we're in the Hunger Games and it's like they're in the capital and we're all watching on being like
yeah fight fight to the death and they're all sitting there like ha ha ha ha swilling their
wine and like eating eyeballs like it just feels absolutely dystopian I I agree it it feels now
that you've said it's very capitalish but I still I'm not mad about it like when it when I watch it
it doesn't incite anger or hatred. I still like to look at the fashion. There's a reason that
the tone is shifting. There's a reason people are moving away from being as obsessed as we
always have been and talking about it only positively. And that's just because of, I think,
the cost of living crisis and where the world is going right now and the things that are happening
in the world. The last thing that we want to be looking at is celebrities that have paid $10,000
to $20,000 for a table just to be able to attend.
Then they've paid $20,000 for their outfit.
And it's not to raise money to cure cancer.
It's for like a fashion art museum.
Like it's an old costume museum, which I think is insane.
And now when we realize how many people in the world could do
with those kinds of funds or how much good could be done
from that kind of money, it rubs us the wrong way.
But when we remove that, sure, I still like to look at the fashion.
The stranglehold that it has on us as like the viewers,
I think that it has absolutely softened.
Like, I just don't think that people care about the Met Gala in the same way that they
used to.
I also think that the exclusivity around fashion and the exclusivity around Hollywood stars,
which I know is ironic after I was like very excited about Sydney Sweeney, but I think
this idea that they are intangible or untouchable, like godlike people, I think that that has
kind of started to subside.
I do think that we have way more accessibility to our Hollywood stars through social media
now that kind of, I don't know.
it doesn't feel as gripping being a voyeur and watching in on this anymore it doesn't feel as
though it has like I said the stranglehold on us like it used to and I agree with you Brie I think
all of those reasons but I also just think like it feels incredibly out of touch now and I just
don't think people care as much I was surprised by how much the culture shift had happened this
year you know I quite like that we've been led into the world though and I say that because I'm
thinking Kim Kardashian posted I guess a vlog getting ready for the Met Gala and like the
behind the scenes stuff and I do like how she takes you inside like she she gets into a car
and she's basically she's late right she's like oh my god we've got to go we haven't finished my
hair whatever she gets into her car to get to the venue and she's talking about she's panicking
about how she lost her phone and she's like I don't know where to put my phone does anyone have
a bag and I like the fact that we're calling a spade a spade and we can see the way that it
really goes down so I I don't know I don't know if that's turning people off by saying that we
have so much access to them I personally like the level of insider access we get to celebrities now
because it makes them feel a little bit more normal even though they're not they're living
a world that will never live but you still see those humanized characteristics I don't know I
quite like it but what even what you just said then Brit about like Kim Kardashian creating
content around running late for the Met Gala nothing she does is not strategic she was not
running late for the Met Gala. That is not real. It is a fabricated urgency. It's kind of like a
101 in engagement on social media. If you see someone being like, oh my God, I'm running late,
but I've just put on this dress and I don't know what to wear. But in the instance of Kim Kardashian,
trust me, she's not fucking running late to something that they've just spent $20,000
on a pop for a ticket or whatever the tickets cost. And her entire day is curated around
getting ready for the Met Gala. No, and it wasn't content about running late, but she's in the car.
You can see she's late. She's in the car being taken there and the big blim or whatever it is
has screens on it. And as she's going there, I think it's Kendall or Kylie, one of the other
sisters is on the red carpet being photographed and Kim's not even there yet. So like that,
it's real. It's not like she was like, oh my God, I'm never going to make it. But they're like,
oh my God, look how good she looks. Like it was just a behind the scenes insider take.
I just quite enjoyed, I love how Kim's doing these now.
I love how she's, she doesn't care that she comes
across as superficial because she is.
Her brand is on that.
And so she owns it and she just takes you along the journey.
I personally quite like it and I hate that I'm saying that,
but for me it just, I don't know,
it makes them a little bit more normal.
I just think I'm a cynical old bag because I see things
like that and I'm like, oh, my God, it's such fake urgency.
Now I like, you want to know, does she make it on time?
What, you know, how did it go?
I guess it like hooks, it is a quintessential hook
that hooks you into the content and makes you want
to watch along for the entire journey rather
than it just being like. You watch me do
a video about running late today.
I'm going to be like, guys, quick. I'm so
late. What should I wear?
Something that did happen at the Met Gala. You guys would have
seen it and we do have to discuss it, albeit
not for too long. The fucking
Kardashians in the nipple dresses.
Is this an ode to Skims? You know how
Kim Kardashian, I think it was last year, brought out
the bra that had the nipples built
into the bra? Well, this year at the
at gala all the kardashians are wearing some sort of nip dress something that was like an ode to
that kind of like nipple design for a moment i was like oh my god maybe this is a new in-fashion
thing no one else was doing it just the kardashians and all of them had nipples built into their
dress there were quite a few nipples like um hayley bieber did nipples as well but not the same hayley
bieber did more cones no one had like it in like she had nipples too not like in a soft body con
with a nip, not a nip-nip.
Are you sure?
Let's look up Hailey Bieber's nipples.
That feels wrong.
Google it.
Live Google.
I quite liked it.
I really liked the nipples and I genuinely thought everyone
of the Kardashians looked incredible, incredible.
And Kim Kardashian wore this.
You have to look at it.
It's like a fluoro-orange armour.
It was like she was going to war.
She was going to fashion war.
it was an armor and it fit her body and it was very unusual but i you know she always delivers
except for that one time that she was pregnant and wore the carpet that was weird she delivered
on this front like she looked like a couch she looked like she just looked like a couch it was
not and i'm not being mean it was the pattern whatever i wasn't into it but um i i thought
they all looked amazing genuinely i thought kendall kylie and kim i loved their fashion
And there was one girl, I don't know if you saw it.
Her name's Eileen.
She was the Olympian snowboarder that went viral recently for her, the way she answers
press conferences and stuff like that.
She's incredible.
And she's also stunning.
She went to the Met Gala.
I don't know if you saw it.
She had this dress on that shot out bubbles as she was walking.
It was a bubble dress and it also had bubbles.
So she's walking the carpet and it's bubbles are coming out of a dress.
I fucking loved it.
I thought that was cool, fun.
She looked amazing.
It brought attention without, you know, being naked.
I loved it.
We pretty much hired someone like that for Marley and Lola's birthday parties.
I'm pretty sure she was wearing the same outfit.
Oh, very similar.
Britt, I didn't know.
I didn't know that you were such a Kardashian stan because I think the nipple dress is so
ridiculous.
I like a lot of things with fashion.
I like it that it pushes the boundaries.
I'm even for the nude dress.
I'm not offended by seeing a full tit, but there's something weird about a fake nipple
over a dress that I was like, why, why, when are we not freeing the nipples? We're concealing the
nipples, but we want the nipple to be freed. So we're going to build it into our skirt.
I would like on record that I'm not a Kardashian stan. You cannot throw those statements around
willy nilly Laura. I'm not a Kardashian stan, but I don't dislike them either. I like, I don't judge
them for anything. Sometimes I hate what they do and say in their messaging. And sometimes I love
it. Sometimes I hate their fashion. Sometimes I love it. They don't bother me, but I thought
all of them looked amazing at the Met Gala that's what I will say the nipples didn't bother me this
time and maybe that's because I don't wear a bra often so like my nipples are always out like I
never wear a bra you can always see my nipples it doesn't bother me but I just thought I thought
they looked cool I don't quite understand the why I don't know if it was a push to skims I
and I don't understand the connection necessarily maybe I don't haven't looked into it enough and I
don't get it i don't get the wife to the fashion is art that the nipple connection for all the
kardashians but they're a marketing powerhouse it would not surprise me if something new was
coming out that they're all going to push on top of like not even just the skims bra i mean like
maybe something else is coming they didn't all accidentally rock up with the same nipple dress
no one cares about my fashion takes on the met gala but i just think it's stupid that can be
if you're going to quote me from anything from this episode it's that the met gala is stupid
There is a Reddit thread.
Now, it is called Ask Men, which I don't want to get cancelled
for hating men again, but it's called Ask Men.
We don't hate men.
We don't hate all of them, but we hate some, but not all men,
just the ones that are terrible.
Okay, so the name of this article is Men in Long-Term Relationships,
Why Didn't You Propose?
Now, this is a compiled, I guess, like comment section of men
who have spent a very long time in relationships,
who have shared the reasons as to why they didn't propose to their long-term girlfriends.
Some of these responses had me absolutely enraged. Now, have you guys, I mean, we've talked about on
episodes a really long time ago, but Brie, you would remember this term. It's called a fertility
vampire. Have you heard of it? Yeah. So for anyone who hasn't heard of a fertility vampire,
it's someone who takes a woman's most fertile years, knowing full well that they actually don't
want to marry them, knowing full well that maybe that's not their forever person, but
this relationship is good enough for right now.
And so you find yourself in an eight-year or a 10-year relationship just hoping that
that person's going to propose and going to have kids with you, whatever it is.
And it's obviously very specific to women who want committed long-term relationships.
They want to have babies.
They want to get married.
And their partners are just kind of like dangling the, oh, it'll happen soon, carrot in front
of them, and then eventually they break up.
That's what has been coined a fertility vampire.
Yeah, and it's frustrating because the multitude of this thread,
and there were so many people that responded to this thread,
like so many men with their reasons, and I feel like the overarching reason
were people that seemed to have no idea, and maybe I'm giving them
the benefit of the doubt, no idea what they were doing
to that woman in terms of taking her most fertile years.
It's almost like they know without knowing.
It's like they're not thinking it because the first one that I want
to read you is I had one foot out the door a few years into the relationship and I never found a
reason to put it back in I just didn't know how to break it off until I was finally able to do so
like this is somebody that is saying oh like I knew for years I didn't want to be with her but
I just couldn't do it couldn't be fucked couldn't bring that into my life knowing for years with a
woman that might be in her 20s and 30s that you do not want to be with her but you're pretending
that you are is the epitome of a fertility vampire and it is so problematic well look there
were actually so many comments in this thread and it is frightening when you think about the fact
and I know that there's women who do it too but I would say it is disproportionately men who choose
to stay in long-term relationships where they have absolutely no interest in settling down or having
kids or getting married to that person but it suits them at that time and a lot of the women
who are waiting and hoping that they will be proposed to
and that their relationship will move to the next phase.
These are some, we want to read you out some of the reasons
that people have given.
Here's one.
I loved the sex with her.
It was wild.
However, really all the other bits of our relationship
were just not great.
She had no sense of humour.
She did not like to try new things and really did not seem
like wife material to me.
She's really bad with money, like really bad,
to the point where I am not sure I want to continue with her
or see any point in having kids with her.
Imagine feeling like that about someone and never telling them and being in a relationship with them for eight years and them having no clue that you actually have no interest in committing long term.
It's crazy.
This one actually I think is kind of justifiable.
So as much as like we're shit canning, I also think that this one would be a reason why someone would kind of fluctuate between consider and reconsidering.
He said this.
every time I think that we are ready for it we end up having a really big fight and she says
genuinely really hurtful things that make me completely reconsider it I read that one and
I was like fair okay like you get to a point where you're like ready to propose and then that person
calls you a piece of shit and you're like do I want to be in a relationship with someone who
makes me feel terrible all the time like that I think is an actual genuine I guess like back and
forth reason as to why someone would consider whether or not a long-term commitment is right
for them a hundred percent but also then voice that don't just keep going into this cycle okay
this one had me raging our sex life is absolute dog shit to me i have no cause to think it will
ever become better it makes me question the entire relationship and as pathetic as it sounds i am just
too emotionally weak to end it marriage would just chain me up further wow so he's he hasn't broken
up with her but he doesn't want to be with her forever because he can't be bothered to break up
with her don't talk about the fact that your sex life might not be where you want it to be like
to me that is mind-blowing if you are saying i can't marry someone because i don't think our
sex life will get better it's dog shit but every other part of them is great there is such a big
fucking problem there like that for me if you're if you're leaving just for that without sitting
down and having a conversation with your partner you're pretty cool i know i want to read you one
more because like some of these like this one i think is actually quite sad does getting married
make a woman love you more question mark the lack of marriage puts pressure on a woman to be on her
best behavior or else he can leave now marriage just puts pressure on the man but he leaves empty
handed and she leaves with a lot more than she came in with imagine writing that and thinking
that that is an okay mentality to have honestly this thread if you are already feeling enraged by
i guess like the situation around dating this is not going to help you but the reason why we wanted
to talk about this is because, you know, I guess one person could view this as a self-awareness,
like these men are coming to this thread to share how they actually and genuinely feel in
relationships. The alternate question here is, is it fair to label all of these men in this
comment section as fertility vampires or as not caring about the impact that they're having on
their long-term partner? Yeah, this is not, to be clear, this is not supposed to be a man-hating
thread, like, I mean, a conversation on our behalf. That's not what it was. I did, when I
found it, I did find it interesting. And there were some, I mean, we've just compiled a few,
there was a lot that I agreed with. I was like, oh yeah, I get that. I get why you didn't want
to propose and you left. But overarchingly, I think it's this idea that we need to bring more
awareness, obviously to men about growing a set of balls. If you know, you don't want to be with
somebody because wasting her most fertile years and potentially taking that from that woman,
because you don't know what it's going to look like for her. You don't know what her fertility
is doing. You don't know if she's going to meet somebody else. You don't know if she's going to
be able to. So if you're staying, cause some of these people were with them for like eight or
10 years, knowing for years, they didn't want to be with that person. If you know, grow a set of
balls. That's what I want to say. You know what though, Brooke, I also don't think that this is
just a conversation for how men should view relationships. I actually think when I read this
and yes, I felt angry and I felt as though like so many women have been misled in the relationships
that they're in thinking that they were going to be long-term, but actually their partner had like
one foot out the door already. But what I took from this is how important it is as women to ask
questions that might give you uncomfortable answers. Because I would dare say that a lot
of people in these relationships aren't sitting down with their partners and asking point blank,
do you want to marry me? Are we on this trajectory together? And if they are saying yes,
then they're, then they're absolute horseshit because they're just lying to you. But the reason
why I say this is because I mean you guys know I talked about before being with Matt I was in a
relationship for six years and he was always quite often on in his I don't want to say his commitment
to me but like he was quite hot and cold with how he treated me like it was always it was either
all the love or like he would completely ignore me and I and I mean like actually completely
ignore me I'd come home from work and he would barely even say hello to me like it was so hot
and cold we've been together for six years and I remember after we'd broken up one time gone back
together and we were back together and things were amazing. And when we would break up, it wasn't
like we were having weeks apart. Like we'd have a big fight and an argument and then it would kind
of be back. Like we lived together. It wasn't an insignificant relationship by any means.
And I remember sitting down and saying to him this one night, do you see us getting married?
Like we've been together for six years. In my mind, we would get, in my mind, I was convinced.
I was like, there is no doubt that this is the man I'm going to marry. That's why I'm working
so hard to make this fucking relationship work. And I was like, you know, he said something that
felt dismissive of me in the future. And I was like, do you see us getting married? And do you
see us having kids? And he looked me dead in the eye and he said, I'm just not sure that you are
the person I want to get married to. And I was like, what? After six years, you don't know whether
you want to marry me. And he was like, yeah, you should know. He was like, I'm not sure. I'm still
trying to figure that out. And that was such a fucking wake up call for me. And I think it was
because I knew the answer, the whole relationship, but I think I was too worried to actually ask the
questions and I looked for signs that reaffirmed how I felt and of course he gave lots of signs
but I never actually asked point blank you know are you going to propose are we going to get
married I never asked those questions because I was so fearful of what the answer was going to be
and when I finally got it I felt like a fucking idiot that I'd waited so long with someone who
quite clearly was never going to be at that same place with me so I guess what I'm trying to say
is I think it's as much as it's really important for men to know not to waste women's time or for
anyone to waste anyone's time in a relationship. It's really important to ask the questions. If
you know what you want, ask, because there's only going to be one of two answers. It's either going
to reaffirm how you feel, or it's going to give you the tools to leave something that was never
going to serve you in the first place. Yeah. And the scary thing is, Laura, is that some of these
women would have asked, you know, these are men that are like, oh, I just didn't want to disrupt
my life. And I didn't know how I didn't, to be fair, some of them, not to be fair, but some of
them were like, I didn't want to hurt the person, you know, like I didn't want to hurt her. And you
think you're doing them a favor by saving their feelings but it's not like you're wasting so many
more of their very valuable years so I don't know it was it's an interesting thread if anyone wants
to go and have a look Laura question have you ever worked a job where you have thought I could
literally do nothing and still be okay like my job is not needed my job is useless I'm going to do
the least amount possible. I know I've never worked. Not this job. Okay. This job is not
allowed. Imagine if I rocked up to work and I was like, I'm doing nothing today. I will sit in mute.
I know. Zero prep has been done guys. Um, as much as it might sound that way. Um, no, look as much,
yeah. As much as it might sound like we do no work, actually we, we prep a lot for this. Um,
okay. So yes and no. So I, I've never worked in a job where I thought my job was pointless. Like I,
you know, I knew that the job had value and I knew that it would be seen if I wasn't working.
So I was a graphic designer for a medical company, right? Like I had to actually produce the design.
So I knew that they would be like, Hey, Laura, where's the ad that was supposed to be in the
paper if I didn't do it. But what I have lied about is the intensity of the volume of work. So
I worked for a pharmaceutical company back in the day. They used to do dental devices
for people who had sleep apnea fucking niche the most niche thing you could i went man you're it's
just shocking to me how creative you are now because you were at a hearing aid company and
a dental company and like you really worked your way up i did hearing aids and then i did dental
okay but both but when i was at the mandibular advancement splint uh company and i also was at
the hearing aid company i did literally no work i used to have like a furious monday and then
Tuesday to Friday, I would do fuck all. And I would literally work on Tony May. And that's because
I, and I believe this, I think that most people in their jobs, not everyone, there are some people
who work incredibly hard, who are super career driven, who are really motivated, but there is a
huge proportion of people who rock up to work and who do the absolute bare minimum and they get by
and they provide enough work to satiate whatever is like the company expectation, but they're
actually only working at 30% of their own capacity. And so that was me. I was like coming
in on a Monday, smashing the workout. And then I was doing all of my Tony May work. I would like
minimize the screens and I would like work on Tony May in a window in the kind of tiny corner of my
screen. And I was working on my business four days a week, getting paid for it. Terrible. Don't do
that. I know. That is insane to me. I've never really had a job I could do that in. Like I'm
trying to think but you would notice right like when i'm in a hospital if i didn't resuscitate
that person then no like brittany's working at 30 i'm like hey guys i don't really want to take
this one i've done one you're supposed to do like what one breath every five seconds brittany does
one every 30 yeah well you're supposed to do it to if anyone wants to know this is what they used
to say you're supposed to pump a heart to like stay in a lab stay in a lab which is very ironic
like that song is ironic but it's not about the words it's about the the beat the repetition and
the beat and like it's supposed to be what keeps you in anyway whatever people would notice if I
didn't do the work that's my point so I don't think I've ever had it so I found this really
interesting what we're talking about the reason we bring it up is there's this UK corporate well
she was a prior corporate worker and she's a writer. Her name is Layla Kazim and she spent
nearly a decade doing corporate work before she realized, I don't think I actually do anything.
So she worked for a really long time and she thought, I don't think my job is valid and I'm
going to conduct a bit of a corporate social experiment where I don't work for a year and
see if anyone notices. Now this sounds insane, right? It sounds insane to think that you can
go to a corporate job for 12 months, do nothing, and no one will know. But that is exactly what
happened. When I say do nothing, so she had a few little rules. She needed to do just enough
to let people think she was doing something, but not actually contribute in any way. So she said
she'd go to work on like a Monday or Tuesday and in the mornings, she'd spend 15 minutes quickly
compiling some lists to show her manager to be like, hey, this is what I'm working on this week.
Her manager would briefly look at it and be like, sounds good. Keep going. And that was literally
all she did. Sent off an email or two so that it was shown that she logged in in the morning and
then she would do nothing. And she was waiting until they would notice. No one noticed to the
point that she had to quit her job. She was like, I actually can't do this anymore. You guys are
cooked. And after 12 months of doing nothing and being paid, she was busy planning like a really
in-depth 10-month trip around the world, like she was taking a leaf out of your book, Laura,
and just working on other shit. And no one noticed until she was like, I need to go and
live my life, man. I can't wither away here. Well, this is the thing, right? So the experiment
didn't end because she got fired. Like you said, it ended because she went on an overseas trip. So
basically she spent her whole time like organizing her itinerary for her travel itinerary,
but doing it on an Excel spreadsheet. So when people walked past, they thought she was working,
but she was just booking in all of her flight organizations, like filling out where she was
going to be eating at dinners. So funny. I have very complex feelings about this. And I say that
as someone who runs businesses and employs people on one hand, I fucking get it. If your manager is
not a good enough manager or your bosses are not good enough bosses, they're not clocked in on your
performance or on what you were building for the company and like following sort of a vision and
an ideation that you can get away with doing absolutely nothing. I actually don't think that
you are purely the one to blame. I think it's a leadership problem as well. So I do have complex
feelings because I feel as though on some parts, I agree with what Layla is saying, but in other
parts, as someone who owns a business and runs a business, I'm like, you are absolutely taking the
piss and then taking a paycheck. Like, I think that there's one thing which is doing the bare
minimum and actually still providing to what the company output is. And then there is showing up
to work doing nothing and trying not to get caught for it but anyway these are her six yeah but
that's not her fault right because it's not that she's not doing her job it's that they create a
job that doesn't need to be there so she was like i'm gonna test if i actually need so it's not like
she's scamming out out of work it's just that the work wasn't there no i agree and also it's why i
say it's a leadership problem but i guess the reason why it is an issue is because often in
these environments when there's one person who's totally slacking off it increases the workload
for other people and so often other people in the team know that there's one person who's doing
fuck all like they don't know what they're doing but they're left with that feeling of like i don't
know what she does all day because the stuff's not getting done do you know i mean it's like
this feeling of resentment that builds it really ruins the culture of a team but i think the other
part is is like it's no wonder why big companies do mass redundancies and it's really hurtful
because i know a lot of people who work incredibly hard who are made redundant yeah but the reason
why so many big companies do these massive culls isn't just because they're financially struggling
or they financially need to restructure. It's also because they have a huge amount of people
in their workforce who are working at like 20% capacity and they know that. And so they have to
kind of like dwindle the teams down in order to get a higher productive output from people.
But I wanted to read these for you because I do think that they're funny. So it is her six winning
steps for what she calls the game of modern work. Number one, admit to yourself that your job is
bullshit. Now, anthropologist David Gaber coined the term for roles that are just so completely
pointless, unnecessary, and pernicious that even the employee cannot justify its existence.
A YouGov poll found that 37% of British workers thought their jobs didn't contribute meaningfully
to the world. That's big, you know. Yeah, it's massive. 37%. Wait for this though,
we conducted our own Life Uncut poll. And the question was, be honest, are you giving your work
80% or above? 66% of you said that you were giving your work. And this is at the moment,
I only put this up a little while ago. So it's 16,000 people have written into this poll. 66%
of you said that you were giving 80% or above to your job. 34% said that you were bludgeoning and
doing the absolute bare minimum. 34%. Laura, can you just swipe up to see if any of our employees
responded to that second one? Just see which button they clicked. 34% of people are doing
fuck all in their workplace. Do you know what I reckon it is? And I hate to say this, but it has
to be some kind of big conglomerate that people are working for. If you can get away with doing
nothing for a year and no one notices, you're at a company where there's so many employees.
like if anyone, for example, in our company, we're small, there's like seven of us. If someone's not
doing something, you'll know. So my first thought is, okay, these are huge companies if you're
getting away doing nothing. Secondly, is it the worst thing if you have somehow gotten a position
at Amazon and you're able to get away with doing 30%? Is it the worst thing if you sit in that job
and take money from Jeff Bezos? I don't know. I reckon that's okay. I think you can play on in
that sense. I just, I just wonder where these people are working to be able to get away with
that. Oh, Bezos would never let it happen. He'd probably sew you to the chair. Okay. I want to
read the rest of these out. Number two, he'll fucking stitch you into your seat. Put on a good
performance. So you need to make it seem as though you're doing work. So your objective is to make
your manager feel like they just don't have to think about you. You are not a liability to them.
You can manage yourself. A spreadsheet is a great ruse. Now this is coming from Layla who spent 10
months working on her travel itinerary on a spreadsheet that people thought was actually
her working. Another one was tactical slacking. What she recommends is using the reclaimed time
on things that bring you joy. So my example of this is me using my reclaimed joy to build my
business, Tony May. So I was getting paid by the medical device company to do the work of the
medical device company, but I was also working on Tony May at the same time, simultaneously.
Dude, this sounds like we're here advocating for, we're trying to teach people how to get
away with doing no work for your boss.
We're absolutely, we're like, hey, step three, pretend you're working.
We are not advocating for this, to be fair.
Like this is not our list and we want you to work hard at your job.
I think we are.
We're here for the people.
Don't work hard for a job that's not working hard for you.
All right.
Last one.
No, there's two more.
Follow the path of least resistance.
Don't waste energy where it doesn't matter.
Nature never does.
And then the last one was.
What does that even mean?
It just means, like, if you're working so hard on something
that fucking doesn't care about you, doesn't give back to you, like,
don't exhaust you.
Guys, no jobs care about you.
We do.
We care about you.
No, but like, please, listening to this, we care about you so much.
No, but do you know what I mean?
You can't base your work ethic on if, like, I don't know.
I think that's a lot.
Okay, and the last one was, if you were drowning, get out.
A bullshit job with capacity to slack is one thing.
A bullshit job that is stealing your life and your health
is simply unsustainable.
that is a different conversation entirely and I really really do agree with that I think at the
end of the day it's you know I would hope that for everyone that you all have jobs that you feel
impassioned by that you go to work that you want to work hard on because you actually enjoy your
job and you enjoy the challenges that it places for you but if you're working in a job that pushes
you really hard you find no joy in it and you are grinding yourself to the bone if you can
fucking leave because that is just no life and like no one and no job cares about you as much
as you need to care about yourself yeah but you know what I say to that is like it is a very
privileged thing to say most I would say most people and maybe this is another poll right
most people in life don't do a job that they love they do a job because they have to put a roof over
their head and finding a job you love in this climate is really challenging like there's not
many people that get to wake up every day and say, I can't wait to go to work. Like I genuinely love
what I do. I think you're truly blessed. If you can wake up every day and be like, I love my job.
I'm stoked. Then you're very, very lucky. A lot of people have to just do what they've got to do
because there is no out. They can't just be like, you know what? I've had enough. And I think if you
are able to say I've had enough and go find another job, brilliant. But I just want to
recognize that I know how hard that is to leave a job sometimes to find something you love.
absolutely and i think that this kind of like links into the whole emily blunt chat that we
had on wednesday episode but i i want to preface this and i do think that this is an important part
of it because i'm not talking about people who have no options and there is no other work available
to them i know that that that exists for some people but there are also some of us who are
breaking ourselves in our workplace the culture is fucking terrible you go to work you show up
you're working so hard because you feel as though you have something to prove or you feel as though
it's the right thing or the just thing to do. I think sometimes we hold these impossible metrics
for ourselves. And like, I agree with what she's saying in there. She's saying, if you were drowning
in a job, that is a bullshit job that is stealing all the joy from your life and also your health.
It's an unsustainable expectation. Like the workplace culture sucks. There's all this
pressure on you to perform. Maybe you've been put on a performance review. If you can leave,
if you do have the privilege to be able to choose, don't stay there because like life is too short to
work in a job that you absolutely fucking hate if there are options elsewhere is all I'm saying
well we need to stop down and celebrate a very special person's birthday now it's no one we know
but it's somebody everyone in the world feels like they know very well it is also Lockie's
birthday in two days so we could that's what I was talking about happy birthday Lockie no one we
know Lockie our video editor it's his birthday as well yay but also happy birthday Lockie no this
is someone that i feel like is the world's grandpa and the world's father it's david attenborough it
is his 100th birthday and i think that that takes a minute out of everyone's day here at life on
cart to say happy birthday to david attenborough because he has to be one of the most incredible
people that has walked this planet do you think he's listening to life on cart do you think on a
weekend david's just like sitting around the pool room and he just flicks on a little bit of off
carts on a Saturday morning I um he's like nom nom nom nom he's like nom nom nom what I love about
David Attenborough is he is truly the gift that keeps on giving the last like five shows that he's
put out he's like this is my legacy and then he's alive for another year he's like fucking surprised
too he's like this one's my legacy then he's like oh yeah he keeps retiring I'm still here this is
definitely my final legacy that man is going to be 200 and he's going to have 100 legacy shows
I love him.
He's wonderful.
It's because he's like, well, I want to go out on a bang
and make it like a big finale.
I would imagine when you're nearing 100, you know your time's
probably coming up.
I hate to say that, but I guess that's why he keeps retiring
and then he's like, fuck, I'm still here.
I might as well go in a submarine and go do something.
It's genuinely incredible to look at the life that he has had.
Do you know what, though?
Wait, before you go on to his success, I just find it kind of ironic
that we've come off the back of a segment which is talking
about how little you can do in your job and then we've got someone
who's 100 who will never retire.
Like David Attenborough has never done anything at 30%.
He's not bludgeoning his way through a documentary.
Like he's there.
He's fucking got his head up an elephant's arsehole trying
to see what's happening.
Like he'll do it all.
He is.
Genuinely.
Like hats off to the man.
And also he's not just David Attenborough, he's Sir David Attenborough.
Of course he is.
I didn't put the Sir in there.
He deserves that respect.
Look, the first thing I want to say, I've got a couple of points about him.
He and I, I believe in a lot of very similar people. So the first point that I want to say
is that when he got his first job in television, he didn't even have a TV. He didn't own a TV,
didn't care, didn't want to know about it. So when I got my first job in television,
which was The Bachelor, I had, if you can call that a job, I had to buy a TV also to watch The
Bachelor. So I also, very similar to David, was just out there saving the world. Not all heroes
you truly are an icon although i do want to remind you that on our contract for the bachelor it
specifically said that we were not employees so it was not a job we were just lending our time
legally we were not employed by warner brothers look i think that this is actually so fucking
cool and it is a testament to just how old he is david attenborough is the only person to have
won a bafta for programs in black and white color hd and also 3d he's and you know what we're
probably going to bring him back as a hologram he's going to win them all he's such an icon
well okay this is i don't know if this is a i don't know if this is a fact we've googled it
to be a fact but you never know apparently he has never had a driving license he's never passed a
driving license and doesn't own a car which you know what i would believe because i believe he's
the person that's doing the most for the environment he also doesn't need one well you
have to get it how's he getting around horse and cart i'd love to know that like how how does david
actually that would suit him. Imagine you were in the street and David Attenborough goes passing
a horse and cars. I just think he's such an icon. He's got a driver. Like he's not, if he's not
avoiding cars, Brittany, he's still in a car. He's just paying someone to do it for him. Nah,
he's doing the most. By the time he was famous and cars were actually around, he already had
someone who could drive for him. He never needed a car. He's been doing so well for so long. The
guy's fine. I think, I think this is like really one of the coolest things to be able to hang your
hat on like imagine being so successful and doing so much and like as we know he's not just been
someone who's been creating documentaries but he's also been such an advocate for the environment and
for animals but more than 50 different species of plants and animals have been named after him
I don't want to read them all out because I'm going to get them wrong but they're like things
like the Attenbori a flightless beetle there's also the Breckenbeekus no there's the Attenborosaurus
Attenborosaurus is a dinosaur.
No, it's not a dinosaur, you idiot, but it's linked
to like a prehistoric marine animal, but it is called
the Attenborosaurus.
And I wish I was joking, but I think that is the best name.
I want a Brittany Hockleysaurus or something named after me.
Attenborosaurus, that is epic.
You really know you've made it in life if you have animals
and also not only living animals but like extinct species named
after you, an Attenborosaurus.
Doris happy 100th birthday to David Attenborough yeah also do you know who else's birthday 100
birthday it would have been oh god it was my papa's 100th birthday firstly before I take
that seriously how would I know that like I was really racking my brain I was like did I miss
someone's 100th birthday like oh happy birthday grandpa papa so for anyone if you guys if you're
not know jay life you probably don't know this but like my papa passed away six years ago now
when we very first started the podcast it happened in the first few months of us doing the podcast
he did everything for me and so this week has been like a little memory week and when i saw this i
was like that's really cool firstly they were born in the same year but also it's just kind of cool
that you can get have someone who's still on the earth at 100 i was like i wish he was still around
he was like celebrating his 100th birthday yeah but it's also it's also good he hasn't been around
to hear a lot of the podcasters but there's been some there's been some moments he would have
sorry not even disowning he would have rolled over in his grave being italian last week when
you said to me bonjour dude rest in peace papa i don't think that that's the thing that would
have sent him i think it's when i said everyone likes a pinky in the stinky would have been like
that's my girl no he would have loved that he's like get it laura now this probably seems like
a really down way of ending an episode that's meant to leave you in the weekend feeling upbeat
but I read this and it really moved me and it really made me think about the priorities that
I have in my life and I wanted to leave you guys with something that I guess like when I read it
had a profound impact on me this is a letter that was written by a 27 year old Australian woman her
name is Holly Butcher now Holly died in 2018 after she was diagnosed with Ewing's sarcoma which is
like a very rare and aggressive form of cancer before she died she wrote a letter and that letter
has been very widespread across the internet and recently it has been you know how sometimes things
have a second burst it's been shared quite a bit recently and gone viral for a second time
now I wanted to read you part of what this letter says it says it's a strange thing knowing that
you're going to die young at 26 I thought I had time to fall in love to start a family I'm gonna
cry to grow old I know but cancer doesn't care about plans now I understand how fragile life
really is. Every single day is a gift, not a guarantee. I'm not writing this to scare you.
I'm writing to remind you to really live, to stop stressing over the little things, to be kind to
your body and to move it, to nourish it, to stop criticizing it, because one day you will wish that
you had appreciated it. Go outside, look at the sky, feel the sun, just be. Spend less time chasing
stuff and more time making memories. Don't skip moments with people you love. Laugh more, write a
note and tell someone that you love them. Complain less, give more. Helping others brings more joy
than anything you can buy. Be present, put your phone down, show up, really show up. You don't
need to have it all figured out. You don't need a perfect body or a perfect life. Just follow what
makes your heart light up say no to what drains you make changes when you need to and please
donate blood I wouldn't have had the last extra year without it and that year gave me memories
I'll hold close forever thank you for reading this live your life well and maybe we'll meet
again someday Holly now there is so much more to this letter and this is just a summarized version
of what she wrote I'm gonna link the letter in the show notes because I honestly just thought
I know it seems so simple. And some of these things we read on, you read on Hallmark cards
and you read, you know, on different quotes and things, but I think it really hits you when you
know that that's written by someone who was only 27 years old and didn't get the opportunity to
live out all the things that she wished she had more time for. It is actually such a, it's such
a long letter. There is so much more to it. We do want you all to go and read it because it is such
a beautiful reminder that life is not given and it is not guaranteed and nothing is guaranteed.
And it's, I get it. It's really hard when you are healthy and okay to sometimes put these things
into use or prioritize the things that she's, that Holly's saying in this letter. Like when you
are well, you don't realize what you've got to lose until you've lost it. So I understand why
sometimes it's really hard because every person that gets really sick or may have a terminal
illness that I know has always said the same thing, which is don't take your health for granted
and realize what you've got while you've got it. And it's really hard to do that when you haven't
been in that position. So I think something like this, if you can go and sit in this and really
read this, it is a really beautiful reminder that you are not guaranteed your health. So go and be
happy and don't sweat the small stuff. And I think when I read this letter, something that I was
thinking about is realizing the position that you're in because one thing we didn't read then
that she says is whinge less people and help other people more. Give, give, give. It is true that you
gain more happiness doing things for others than doing them for yourself and that is something that
I think about if you're in a position of privilege in any capacity to give back and help someone that
might not be in your position. That was something that really hit home for me. Yeah and I think
lastly the last thing that I really took from this is like I know that there's so much conversation
around being present like be present in your relationships put your phone down but I think
that we all get caught up in the rat race we get caught up in the hustle we get caught up in rushing
from one thing to another thing in getting home from work trying to like feed the kids get the
kids to bed like we are all rushing all the time and it doesn't really kind of I mean even now I'm
kind of rushed from here so I can rush home like it really does feel like we spend our life rushing
from one thing to the next and we are doing multiple things at the one time simply because
we have access through our phones so you might be having dinner but you're also checking an email or
you're trying to like you know read the kids book but at the same time you're going through the
mental checklist of shit that you've got to do and I think for me the biggest part of this that I
took from it and also maybe the thing to leave you with as you go into your weekend is this concept
of being present in the moments that you can be and if you do have the opportunity to be and sit
with if you've got kids with your kids if it's with your partner with your partner if it's with
your friends whoever it's with that i think that we have so many connections in our lives but where
we spend so much of it being disconnected because we are so busy thinking about all the other things
we've got to do and all the rushing that we've got to do between the stuff so i know that that
is a little bit more i don't want to say it's down because it's definitely not down but it
definitely definitely takes the mood to a different place but i i read it and it is it's it it is it's
definitely a down way to finish it but an important way to finish it or is it kind of like well she's
passed away and she's giving her life yeah like it's I know that but I kind of I absolutely
understand that I'm not obviously I understand the content of it in the context but I actually
think that it's left as meant to be inspiring I don't I don't read that it is and read it with
a level of deep sadness I feel that for her and for her family but I read that as though
what a legacy and kindness to leave behind that the last thing that you want to give to people
is a sense of appreciation for the things that you wish you had more of and that's what I think
I'd get out of that. But anyway, guys, that is it from us. We hope that you loved the episode. If
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