Life Uncut - She works hard for the money!! Career, starting a business and following YA BIG ASS DREAMS

Episode Date: March 16, 2020

In this episode we touch on the fact that Brittany is off to find her penguin who may just be stranded in a tropical paradise.We briefly talk Coronavirus and how the world has gone bananas.And we deep dive into small business, careers and the importance of following your passions.This ep made possible by Scratch Dog food and Frank Body.Feel free to leave your thoughts on the review page and share the love, because, well, we love love. Follow @lifeuncutpodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hello lovely listeners and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura and I'm Brittany and this is my favourite time of the week. Why is that Britt? I get to see your face. We get to have a little Lola Derby. It's just a good time. Do you want to elbow bump me? Yeah, we haven't touched today, have we? We haven't touched today. We can do the Wuhan tap under the table. Yeah, there we go. Tap the feet. Usually we walk in and we like give each other a kiss and a hug. We're like, how are you going? Or we do like a five-way handshake. But today we sort of just looked at each other from across the room, didn't we? Yeah, it's probably because I have food on my shirt. And that's fine. Miley's poo on your pants. No, no, no, no poo today. No

poo don't throw me under that bus already I'm clean day to be alive you don't have any poo on you weird times it is in the world though I feel like we have to talk about it let's address that one burning thing that is on everyone's minds at the moment and that is Brittany you bloody slide dog you're on bachelor in paradise coronavirus I thought you were actually going to speak about coronavirus I was ready oh no this isn't the podcast for that people come on I was ready to get really serious then, but yeah, guys, surprise. Gotcha. Really fooled you, didn't I?

Well, you kept that little rabbit in the hat, didn't you? Yeah, I really did. Not that I had a choice. I didn't want to keep it, but you know how it is. Yeah, but also, guys, like unfortunately we can't talk about it in too much detail yet. Britt is very much under contract and it is one of those very tight sealed lipped situations and you know what we don't want to get her sued that would be weird and awkward and uncomfortable for everyone that would really be the suck of my week but she's going back into fansome love

and I'm really excited about this am either just a glutton for punishment or maybe maybe my penguins in paradise who knows do you know what speaking of penguins oh yeah detail I was talking to my dad about you the other day i love that for me i love that for you too so i was talking to my dad about you and i was telling my dad how you were looking for your penguin he was very confused by the analogy and then when i explained it to him how penguins are an animal that mate for life he said oh oh well she's gonna have to get away through a few wombats first and i was like dad what do you mean a few wombats and he's like you know because most men just like to eat roots and leave thank you terry burn yes tezza oh my god that is so brilliant so men like to what root

eat and leave no men like to eat roots and leave yeah but like eat comma root comma leave exactly that's the funny thing i bloody love your dad good old work terry burn thanks tezza well okay he doesn't listen to podcasts he doesn't even know what a podcast is he asked me how my podcaster was going today. Bless his soul. How's your podcaster? All right. So maybe I have to work my way through some wombats. I feel like I've done that in my life to find my penguin. We've all had a few wombats, haven't we? We have. And I love that metaphor. Do you know what happened to me this week? Oh, what? I know you didn't ask, but I'm going to tell you anyway. Well, you know, I want to know. So you don't know this yet. I haven't actually told you. I had a bit of

a car prank, right? How have you left that out? I've actually forgot about it until now, but this is just the most bizarre set of circumstances. So I was leaving my house the other day and it was raining. I pulled out behind a car in front and I ended up, she was reversed. The prang is not the story. But anyway, she was reverse parking. I pranged into her. We had to exchange details. Exchange details in the rain. We were both pretty flustered and then I got back in the car and I received a text message from her and she said, hi, uh this is gonna sound really weird i was pretty flustered at the time but i recognized you and i thought oh gosh bachelor no no no no no no you know how i talk about that bad guy i dated all

the time on this podcast she was like we're gonna call him fred dave his name was not steve we're gonna call him steve or fred whichever let's go with steve she said so not only do we share terrible terrible driving abilities we also have terrible taste in men i'm steve steve's most recent ex oh my gosh so the world brought us together how did she i guess she's heard your terrible dating stories and also dating steve he would have said i used to date laura burn well i think there's still photos of me on his instagram also you always talk about your ex right like when you start to date somebody new well i would i'm always like tell me about your past like who did you date he would have and he would have bragged he would have been like yeah dead Laura Byrne

trust me you've seen what I look like right now I'm nothing to brag about babe what are the odds of that what are the odds of that I've asked for some updated stories no I don't want to go down that rabbit hole I didn't want to know anything that's what happened to me this week is it enough damage that you have to like get an insurance job oh look how are you gonna do it oh so it's more her car yeah so was it your fault I don't know whose fault it was I'm still on the fence about whose fault it was to be honest let's leave it to the insurance companies oh god anyway thanks guys thanks for listening to that really trivial piece of information that i felt like sharing with you all well now that we've got sort of the big issue out of the way aka paradise there is another big

issue i feel like we should touch on oh you actually want to talk about the real big issue that everyone's talking about i don't think we need to jump into depth about it but i feel like need to touch on it and that is corona beers virus bingo but actually um the beers have actually taken a really big hit have you seen that yes it's devastating for them terrible terrible branding and marketing apparently they lobbied to have the virus's name changed which didn't go down so well the beer company the beer company because of how adversely it's affecting their company there is so much hysteria and so much information it's an information overload out there at the moment about coronavirus. We are not experts. I am certainly not an expert. At least Brittany

works in a hospital, so she can probably comment on things a little bit more than I can. But the one thing I want to say in and amongst all of this is if you're feeling overwhelmed by the information that's out there, get off social media and do not use that as your source of information because there are a lot of crazy people who think they have the answer on there. Absolutely, Laura. And I do have a few things that I want to say about this. We are not doctors, like we said yes I work in the industry I am on the front line I am diagnosing these patients I am scanning them when they come in and I do see it and there is a lot of hysteria around like you've said but all I want to say is it's really really important that you get your information from

reliable sources and that is not Miranda Kerr posting about like a psychic medium that's telling you to drink celery juice the only people you should really be getting your information from at this point of time is either the world health organization who or the center for disease prevention and control which is also known as the cdc you can find them online at cdc gov and what they do is they give you all correct reliable information that has come from doctors and professionals specialists in this industry and they do even have a section on there that just talks about the myths versus the truth. There are so many things going around at the moment saying that, let me just try and think of some, drinking hot water is going to stop the virus.

It's not at all. Like there is absolutely nothing that's going to stop the virus right now except for cleanliness. And I think it's really important to not panic at this time and just take a step back. Number one, wash your hands. I had a meeting today and Marley's got a bit of a cold at the moment and then it's definitely not coronavirus she's just a snotty baby had a meeting today and Marley was with me and she had these two candlestick snots coming out her nose and I was like I'm just gonna use her shirt to wipe that so I wiped her snotty nose and the lady I was sitting across looked at me like I had just taken a dump on the table it was out of control so I was like maybe I'll go and wash my hands the washing your hands part very important probably not the dump on the

table part no interrupting a very important story it is serious because it's such a serious matter there is nothing there's no vaccine there's no cure or prevention it's literally you just have to wash your hands if someone is trying to sell you some sort of salt or magnesium or silver or celery or anything like that and tell you that that is going to cure you or stop you from getting the virus please please please please do not believe it well it's a bit of a bell gibson situation don't you think disgusting but there are people out there right now capitalizing on this virus saying that they have the cure and there is nothing to stop this right now except cleanliness hygiene and also like spending time away from people like i think if you can keep

yourself away from social situations where you are going out in big groups or you are you know mingling with people unnecessarily like just limit that because there's going to come a point in time where you it's going to be mandatory if it keeps spreading the way it's spreading so you know nip that in the butt and do what I do and just hang at home. Don't do anything. I've been in isolation for months, guys. It's called parenting. Speaking of being in isolation and having way too much time on my hands, have you heard of the website Wikifeet? Yes, I actually have. You tell me your story first, but one of my best friends is on there. I feel like I've really eclipsed some sort of like pinnacle of fame. I have reached fame, Brittany. So are you on WikiFeet? Somebody

made a profile of me. I swear I didn't do it for myself. There is a profile of me on WikiFeet where some very unusual character has added lots of photos of my feet. So tell everyone what WikiFeet actually is. So WikiFeet is, it's a, it's an online, I guess it's kind of a ripoff of wikipedia where all these different people different like reality tv stars or celebrities reality tv stars what a bloody i don't mean that reality tv people celebrities uh people who work in the music industry anyone that has a little bit of a social profile uh i guess like people go on there and create profiles for them and then they take specific photos of their feet from different social media shots and then other people go on there and rate their feet i have a few

questions I have a lot of feelings about this I have a lot of questions one how did you know you were on wiki feed I may have googled myself okay two what sicko decided to start a page about people's feet don't kink shame Brittany oh no I am I'm totally kink shaming like some sicko started a page with people's feet and they're stalking people's photos I'm putting on there three this is the big question i googled myself on wiki feet and i'm not on there i knew you were gonna be jealous i don't know how i feel you you looked me up to see if i was on there didn't i did i knew you also also now that you're on bachelor in paradise who knows the opportunities are endless maybe your feet will end up on wiki feet as well do you know what if anything can come out of that

show hopefully it's that laura who needs a boyfriend when you could have a wikipedia feet just wanted to let everyone know that my feet are actually beautiful if uh if you're wondering that's what my rating is on um wiki feet however i feel like they haven't really been able to see my feet in close range because i have hoofs that you could walk up a wall with that's what my feet look like when i googled you on wiki feet i did see a great picture and i sent it to you of you and it's like one of their favorite photos on wiki feet it's like matt standing by the ocean pool and you are diving in you can see like straight up your butthole but your feet are in like it was their favorite photo that was my favorite but your feet are like pointing directly at the camera and

some foot sicko has just been like what an angle oh yeah and he's frothed it it was a good one so you got to see the full soul in that one you did the it was there were a lot of layers to that one so anyone if you want to go on there and have a look at my feet it's called wiki feet uh i'm going to find it and post it on the page it's really weird you're welcome anyway what else have you got for me today brit well we should probably get into this episode considering that we have yabbered and we haven't even told the people what the episode is even about well we're not there yet because i haven't accidentally unfiltered for you oh yeah can we at least tell them what the episode's about are we gonna not yet all right keep you hanging okay guys before

we get into the nitty-gritty of the episode i haven't accidentally unfiltered for you and it is brilliant. Are you ready? I'm so ready. I love this part of the episode. It's my favorite. I just really feel for these people. I just want to preempt this. Oh, I don't. This sort of shit happens to me all the time. This makes me feel normal. Okay. You tell me if this has ever happened to you. Hi guys. A few years ago, I found out my partner of five plus years had been a serial cheater and even had another girlfriend at his work. Long story. I was so physically stressed about it that when we were having a fight about it and I really needed to fart, I mentally decided, no, fuck you. I'm not holding my fart in. I'm just going to do it. You

don't deserve me to hold it in. Well, what I thought was a fart was stress-induced diarrhea. I was wearing skinny jeans and I felt like a baby wearing a nappy. It went everywhere. I got up mid fight, walked to the bathroom, locked the door, got in the shower, fully closed. I was mortified. He never knew what happened, but it was a sign that I was done with the relationship. Mate, you sure showed him. I just think it's so funny. My favorite part about this is, fuck you. I'm not holding my farting for you anymore.

Like, imagine if she was just fighting with him, like, full going at it, being like, fuck you. Like, what was she going, what did she think was... Please never make those noises into the microphone again, for me or for anybody else. I just think it's hilarious. I blame you for this story, Britt, because last week we talked about farting and I'm sorry that we're still doing it, guys, on the last episode quite a bit. We had somebody write in who was experiencing a problem, which was that they farted every time they orgasmed.

And so we talked about that in our last episode. But Britt did a call out and said that she wanted this week's accidentally unfiltered story to be a fart story. So that's where this came from. But that's brilliant. It is. That's brilliant. I think that if you shat yourself because of the stress

that somebody is making you feel, that's a clear indication that you're in the wrong relationship. Well, that's what she said. She's like, yep, I just really worked you out there. That relationship is done. Yeah, it's a line in the sand right there. Oh, my God, that's amazing. We won't have any more whiz pop stories, I promise.

Okay, so if you guys have an accidentally unfiltered story for us, slide on in to our DMs at Life Uncut Podcast and we will add it to the list for next week because we live for these stories, guys. Yeah, we really do. But now, Laura, it's time to get into the episode. So this week, guys, we have decided to talk about something that everyone experiences in life, issues, decisions that you make,

and it's all based on your career. We often get asked about the careers that we both have, how we got into it, what it exactly involves, how we decided to change career paths, how Laura started a business. we get so many questions about it and we get a lot of people asking for advice on changing careers when they're a little bit older. We just thought we would stop talking to y'all about relationships and maybe just go off pace with this one. Yeah so we are. Cross-country life uncut. I think they know what off-piste is right? But thanks for breaking that down. You're welcome. So Laura I

think maybe you can go first. Why don't you talk about what you originally studied, what you do now and everything in between. All righty. Wow. That is a very broad and open topic, but through, I kind of had a very wayward path into my career now. And my career now is that I am a jewelry designer and I have a business called Tony May, a little plug there on the side guys. But I, yeah, I'm a, I'm self-employed. I run a business. I have a team of now about seven people who work for me and we have a large team of silversmiths on top of that. I'm probably about 14 silversmiths who create the jewelry that I get to design.

I'm really, really lucky that my sister is also my business partner. That's kind of the setup of Tony May now. However, it was, like I said, it was not an easy and clear cut path to becoming a jewelry designer, nor was it an easy and clear cut path to being a business owner.

I started studying graphic design at uni and I didn't really know what I wanted to do. I wanted to do something creative. So I actually did a double degree. I did fine arts where I was doing painting and printmaking. And then on the flip side, I was doing graphic design because I always had in the back of my head that I wanted to be an artist, but I didn't think I would be able to make enough money doing it. And so I needed to have something that was a bit more commercially viable to fall back on if my dream job didn't work out. Just wasn't sure. I wasn't sure how to have a creative career. I

wasn't sure sort of how to even start that part of my life. And so I knew I needed a fallback plan just in case. That has been so advantageous to me now because being a jack of all trades and knowing how to be a graphic designer and being able to, you know, design my own website at the start and design my own logo and do all these other facets of business that are required by someone when you decide to be an entrepreneur, because it's not just about doing the one thing you love. It's about having to do everything in business when you first start. Yeah. So instead of going and having to employ someone to do those little things that a lot of people probably do, you already had the skill yeah and that and that really made my life so much easier it also cost

me a hell of a lot of less money as well so when I finished my university degree I started doing art and I was selling it in galleries on a very small scale for a period of time were you selling your own art I was selling my own art oh so like uh like painting printmaking but yeah I was doing like I didn't know this there you go there you go oh it's so nice to learn new things about each Heather. It is. So you were actually in studio selling your own work. Yeah. So I was a poor and starving artist, which is pretty much what happens. Well, as much as I wanted to work a creative career, I also didn't want to be poor. And so after about a year and a half of doing that, I moved back to Sydney. I was living in Lismore at the time and I moved back to Sydney and I

decided I needed to get a job. And I started working at a printing company, like the most boring type of graphic design you could think of. I was doing people's business cards and I was doing people's like layouts and logos and just very formulaic, very boring, very style guided types of design. And I was doing design for so many people who were running their own businesses as well. So my head, I was thinking maybe I want to start a business. Like maybe I want to be, I don't know what I could do. And I had always done jewelry as a hobby, but I'd never ever thought it was possible to make a business out of something that was a hobby. So a few years later, I still was working in graphic design, but I was working in and for a pharmaceutical company. Yeah,

but it was there that I sort of started to realize maybe I could start a business in jewelry. And I had read some articles about Samantha Wills, who we've interviewed on this podcast and who- Yeah, she's brilliant. She's amazing. And I was very open about the fact that her story was really inspirational to me and that I was like kind of in my head thinking, gosh, if she can do it, like she's this girl from Bondi, she sold at Bondi Markets. Well, she's from Port Macquarie. She's a small town girl.

I went to school with her. Yeah. So I was like, well, if she can, if she could do this, like maybe there's a chance that I could start a business and do this. And I was also doing Bondi Markets at the time and the markets were really successful for me and they gave me a bit of confidence that maybe my designs were good enough to sell. Like I needed that affirmation from the customers to say,

you know yes this has some longevity in it and then it was a really really slow very very hard slog to starting my business and it's been eight years now that we've had Tony May and we have been through so many ups and downs with the business but I'm really proud of where we are now and but it's definitely not come easy. So how long were you at the markets for before you took a and started your own sort of shop? I was doing the markets for about three years and I guess it was a pretty interesting time because this was all pre-Instagram as well.

So then like there wasn't the access to information about how you could transition from a market store to being actually a retail space. But the markets for me were so incredibly advantageous because it gave me the opportunity to present my product to people and for them to give me feedback and tell me that they liked it.

So it was almost like prototyping for me. So I have loved the markets and I still say to people, you know, if you're not sure about getting into something or you want to test the waters, like starting out at the markets is an incredible place to start. It doesn't need to be a totally finished product and you don't need to go in or, you know, guns blazing straight into a retail space. It's an amazing way to test product. So people know because we often have people write in saying, how did you do it?

How did you start a business? Did you Google? How do you start a business? Did you have someone you sort of looked up to or a mentor or like, how did you literally scramble out of a market to jumping like feet first in? I actually feel like I got a little bit lucky mixed with the full-on hustle that I was doing. So luck and opportunity were definitely on my side. I was entering every single competition that I could come across, like launch your label

this, like mentors here. and I entered this competition which was between Harper's Bazaar and a retail space in the city in Westfield called 100 Squared and by some divine chance I won that competition that's kind of what really gave me the opportunity and gave me the leg up in the world to to get out of the markets and to get into retail but even before that happened I had a mentor and his name was Jeremy Summers part owner of a really successful swimwear label who's now it's actually an activewear label now called We Are Handsome and at the time I needed a space to make my jewelry and and I knew him through a different walk in life and he had an area in his studio that he was renting out to me

and so I rented this tiny little nook in this big studio and it was really nice being around other people who were really creative and really successful but I was not very successful at the time. And I felt very, very overwhelmed by how good at business he seemed to be and how good at business. There was also another label in there called Carlo, which is a leather label. And so I was watching these people at work and, you know, they worked hard, but they weren't working as long hours as I was. I was making every single piece of jewelry myself, every single piece. Wow. Such a big job. It was horrible, awful. So I was working until like three in the morning some mornings, four in the morning some mornings. And so I was there this one day working

and I would have been maybe two in the morning and Jeremy came in drunk to come get something. And he was like, what the fuck are you doing here? And I had one of these moments where I was just in tears. I was like, it's not worth this. Like if this is too hard. And he said to me, you've got to get ready. Like your business right now is not scalable. He's like, and if you actually want this to be a business that you can live off and has longevity, it needs to be scalable because when somebody places that hundred thousand dollar order or you know orders 700 pieces of that one one item you physically are not going to have the time to make it you can't make it you're going to have to say no or you're going to say yes to it and you're not going to be

able to solve the problem it's like so a business needs to be scalable and it was in that moment that I realized that I really needed to fundamentally change some things to be able to grow and to be able to to be what I wanted the brand to be and so it was that day that I really started to reach out and find other silversmiths and to start to put together procedures and processes in place but there was this huge task of having to give away some of the jobs that I had held so close because up until that point I had done everything myself from the website to the graphic design to the jewelry to the like management of the online store I was doing everything and it was this real lesson in you can't be the jack-of-all-trades you've got to

be good at it. You've got to have some awareness of it, but you've also got to have an amazing team behind you so that you can grow. I imagine now that I know you so well, I also imagine that that would be really hard for you because you, those that know Laura, she is a perfectionist. I'm such a fucking control freak. And like, I love that about you. 95% of the time. No, I love that about you. But I imagine like, also it's your baby. I guess you've like nurtured it and you're proud that you've done everything yourself I imagine it's really hard to be like okay I need help and I need to reach out and totally and it's really hard to know that that somebody else is going to be able to create your vision the way that you see it but that's the only way that you become

successful I think and there's the thing that I always try and explain to people when they come to me and say I want to start a label or I want to get into fashion or I want to you know create a new business is that owning a label or being an entrepreneur it's not just about being good one specific thing. It's not, it's not going, okay, I'm a jewelry designer and I want to make jewelry because only a very, very, very small portion of my job is actually designing jewelry. You have to be really passionate about business and about that whole experience of managing people and managing stock levels and doing inventory, the customer service. There are so many other aspects and parts of business that almost eclipse the design part of things because the design

literally only takes such a small physical amount of time, but you've got to be passionate about all those other facets of business as well. And really, really want that in your life. Otherwise you'll never succeed at it. I actually remember when we did interview Samantha Wills. So for those of you that don't know her, she's a hugely successful jewelry designer. I remember when we interviewed her, she said the same thing. She said the reason she decided to sort of wind up at the end and call it a day was because she lost her passion for it and she said it got to the point that the tiny, I was enjoying the tiniest part of it now because the designing was so small and her business got so wildly successful that all she was doing was the business. She lost her

passion for the design because it just wasn't consuming her enough. The business side of running a business is what takes up 80% of time. I'm just really lucky that I actually really love that part of it too. And I find that really interesting. And that's the area that I feel like I keep learning in because now I kind of think, well, I've got the jury designing part down pat. I know how to do that with my eyes closed, but I still don't know how to run a business with my eyes closed. And there's still so many things that I do on, not necessarily day to day, but from a business perspective that I go, oh, oh, that wasn't the right way to do that. Yeah. We won't do that next time. And you learn from those lessons.

I think for anybody who is contemplating starting their own business or wants to create their own label, there has never been in the history of the world, a more incredible time to be an entrepreneur. I mean, it is now so easy to get a product to market. We have so many apps online that help us create logos, or you can create template websites. We have social media now. So you have an access to an audience that before maybe you would have to purchase advertising or newspaper advertising or something more traditional or commercial, but it's so cheap to start a business and to actually get product to market now. One of the biggest things I think can be misleading is that often we look at social media though, and we see these businesses that

started and it can seem like it is so easy. Like everybody has a business, everybody started some venture and it seems like most of them are just so successful as well. But sometimes I worry that that doesn't really showcase or show the true experience of, and the true hustle behind trying to start a new business. Because there are so many times where you're going to be like, okay, one step forward, two steps back. And there is also a lot of failure and being poor as well, that goes with starting your own business. You know, it's not just, I'm going to set up an online store and all of a sudden the sales are going to come in. It's not how it works. There's a lot of risk involved but the rewards can be incredible as well. I think it's absolutely true

what you're saying. There's a difference between successful people and unsuccessful people and the people that actually end up getting it done. Both have huge amounts of self-doubt. Both are really scared of failure and what are people going to think of them and the only difference is the successful people, the people that end up successful, they take that self-doubt and fear and they nurture it and they learn from it and they question it they go and explore the self-doubt and they say i don't know how to do this but i'm gonna learn absolutely i am worried about what people are gonna say but i'm just gonna bury that a little bit and try and step over and step above it and do it anyway and the unsuccessful people they're the people that are like oh they might laugh at

me i'm not gonna do it or i don't know how to do that so i'll just can it and find something else to do. But I also think that in some situations, like people don't want to get started or they don't want to put a product out to market because it's not perfect yet. And I think that you can really get caught up in this perfectionist mentality where you'll never, ever, ever launch your product. You'll never, ever, ever get the idea off the ground entirely because you're too busy trying to make it perfect before you go to market. And I think that that's like the biggest mistake that most people encounter. Don't launch when you think that you've got something totally perfect, just get started, just do it. And you can perfect it along the way. And I'm sure there'll

be people out there who disagree with me. Actually, this was, this analogy came from a girlfriend the other night and I loved it because it's exactly how I feel about business. She said, you don't have to have the Maserati car. That doesn't need to be what the product is. A wheel is a perfectly great product. So you start with your wheel, you put your wheel out there and that's a perfectly useful product. Then you've got two wheels, you've got a scooter. That's also a perfectly useful product. And then you build to the Maserati, but at least you've gotten started. At least you've got the product out there to market. And I think that so many people are so fearful of starting that they don't actually go anywhere with it because they're so overwhelmed by this concept

of like, well, what do I do? Where do I start? That's actually a really good analogy. I like smiling at you as you, yeah, you could see me nodding. I was like, where are you? Where are you going with this? Oh, I'm here for the ride. But I liked it. But there's a quote that I love to by Zig Ziglar and he's um like a motivational speaker and an author and he was he was really brilliant very well known sort of like the OG motivational speaker he said you don't need to be great at something to start but you have to start to be great at something oh I freaking love that it just resonates with what you just said but it's true like you don't have to have it perfect before you go and give it a go it's never and also what you think is perfect isn't going to

be perfect for someone else and what you you might just go oh let's just get it out there it's not ready but we'll do it and someone else is going to be like this is perfect if you go to market with a product and you think it's perfect then you're not going to be open or receptive to people's feedback and you need to be you need to be adaptable you need to be welcoming of feedback and so if you put something out there that you're like you know what i'm proud of this i do think it's good but there is room for improvement and then you allow people to critique it or criticize it or use the product or and then you build from that feedback you build from that customer experience. And then you're actually bringing your customer along the journey

with you and they'll grow with you as well. And I think that that's such a, like so much more organic and there's so much more growth in that than just being like, this is my product. It's perfect. Done. Yeah. Grow together and go on the journey together and learn together. I love that. And you, just so people know, you've brushed over it before, but I think it's really important people know that things don't just happen and they don't just succeed and it's not zero to 100 straight away like you had some you had some pretty big speed bumps right I think a lot of people don't talk about the failures and the speed bumps along the way too so a lot of people are like well they can do it they've just started a wildly successful brand but people don't see

what you go through to get there and people don't talk about their failures openly so it does seem like when you look at what's happening with other brands or other businesses on social media it can sometimes feel like everybody else is so successful and you're just floundering around going what the hell am I doing wrong here but I mean every single successful business goes through failure every single successful entrepreneur goes through failure and failure is one of the most incredible tools and assets that you can use to make changes and to grow from well yeah it's the difference between do I just give up and think of a new career or a new idea or do I still want to go for my goal but just change direction to get there yeah and I I think with us like I think

that sometimes naivety comes into it and comes into play and is actually sometimes an incredible asset if I had known how difficult it would be at the start to be a business owner and how difficult it would be to be an entrepreneur I would never have fucking done it because the amount no way the amount of sleepless nights the amount of times where I had no money in my bank account the amount of times where I had to make sacrifices of going out with my friends because I was like you know what I'm so far down the rabbit hole now that I I can't not see this through I if I had known that I probably would have given up a lot earlier but there was a lot of power in being naive to the situation and obviously now I'm so proud and so happy that

we followed that journey all the way through and and we are at the position and place that we are now but yeah if somebody went to you and said you are going to have the most stress two years of your life you are going to lose all your money at one point you're not going to sleep for 470 days you would have been like fuck that i'd be like what a dream sign me up you can't wait that sounds the truth i would go back to my shitty printing job exactly so i don't know i think you have a lot to be proud of and you should be but it's just I just want people to know like it's important to know the work and the hours that are going to go into it like I think having a business and going out on your own and following a dream it's so amazing and so important and I encourage everyone

to go and do that but I guess know what you're going to put into that after being through the process that I've been through with Tony May like I would not change my life or sacrifice what I have now for anything I feel so incredibly privileged that I'm able to work for myself and I think that you know it it does really create a life for you that's a very very different life to working a nine-to-five job it's not that there's anything wrong with working a nine-to-five job like I mean I've done it and I loved it for different reasons it meant that when I hit 5pm I could go home and never had to think of work and that's also a really awesome thing but whereas when you're an entrepreneur you never get to sort of switch off to it and I I guess I've never really

thought about it until right this actually like right now this second starting this podcast it is a business in itself and it's like we've gone out and done something else and I've never done that before I've always been in medicine and I've worked for government and this has been the biggest learning curve for me because I you know it's a baptism of fire baby you just wait till I teach you how to use a computer you wait till I get off big pond she's not joking the ed dead and I just I do really want to make this point and I want people to know that you can do this but this started for me at 32 the first time that I actually went in and started something on my own and had my own business and had to figure things out and there's so many times I have gone I don't

I don't know how to do this and you'll you'll be like okay I'll help you like or I'll show you I'll tell you what just look this up google this up um but things for me that should because I do a lot of the back end stuff things for me that should have been really quick and easy and they would be for most people in business have taken me 10 times as long because I'm learning and that's fine because I'm all for it and I'm passionate about it and I want to learn but I don't think it's you're ever too old to start and learn like I think everybody can go and and jump feet first in if you're willing to put the hours in put the work in look things up learn new skills ask for help starting any new project there is this really sense of like well where do I start but you do have

to just break it down and take action. Nobody is going to give you the answer. Nobody is going to give you a perfect pill that says, oh, this is how you start a business because everybody's experience with it is so incredibly different and nobody can put you on the exact journey. So I think that you have to get started. That's the only way that you're ever going to be successful. And whether it's just one small step at a time and you're doing the research about, like, say, for example, it's podcast studio, break it down. Where do I get recording equipment from? Who are some other people that I aspire to? Maybe you can reach out to them for being mentors.

How do I even upload it? How do I upload? Like we knew nothing. But there are ways that you go about it and there is so much information now on the internet that you have to have a level of being proactive and take that responsibility if you ever want to start something. Nobody is coming to your aid to tell you how to do it. No one's going to hand anything to you on a platter, but it's so, so okay to ask for

help and go to someone and ask for advice, but make sure you've done something yourself first to show them. I think make sure you've gone, look, this is a business plan that I've put together that I think is going to work. Can you run your eyes over it and, and, you know, give me some tips or tell me what you think instead of just going to someone and saying, tell me what to do. Totally. Well, Brit, like we have had such different experiences in how we've kind of come into the workforce. And I always find it so interesting with your situation because people are often very quick or have been in the past very quick to assume that you're an influencer and that that's your job. I think that, you know, maybe it's partly because you up until recently

hadn't really spoken very much about your occupation. You had really just sort of showcased the highlights of your life, which is very Instagrammable. But I want to know more about like, why did you get into radiography? How was that a calling for you? And now how you're juggling a very normal not not so much nine to five but a very normal shift work job amongst the media side of life that you are navigating yeah so I do do a lot of different things and I'm definitely like a cliche of not staying in your own lane and I'm pretty big on I don't think people should have to stay in their own lane but yeah I guess let's go back to where I began when I was 14 I got a job in a fish and chip shop just thought I'd throw that in it that was

actually my first what was your first job my first job was working at the treasury in Wollongong which was a restaurant I thought you were going to say like for the parliament no overachieving Laura no I was the I was the person that would go up to a restaurant be like hello how many people just come this way what do you call that the maitre d is that a thing you just sat people down yeah i i checked if you had a booking and put you on a table no i worked at a fish and chip shop until i severely burnt myself in the oil and um he was like get back to work and i was like i quit and then i that was it but you're so dramatic brit i was really dramatic back then um no so i finished school wasn't 100 sure what i wanted to do so i moved to italy and i was a nanny

I knew I was never going to be a nanny but it was like while I figure out my life good responsible take care of someone's children while you don't know what you're going to do with yourself 100 100 trust me with your small humans you'll probably do a better job than me take Miley here so I did that for a year and then I came back and I I always knew I wanted to be in the health industry but I didn't know what I wanted to help people I was really interested in the body um but I I looked at things like physio and things like that and it was all just very nine to five I found it to be honest nothing against it but for me I found it to be a bit boring because I wanted I wanted like trauma and I wanted really fast-paced and high-end I didn't want to know what was coming

to me I know that sounds crazy I wanted to be in that emergency environment I also had some criteria that I wanted to be able to travel with whatever I did so it needed to I needed to be able to work in another country and I wanted the opportunity to be able to change my income if I wanted to earn more. I wanted the opportunity. So instead of just doing a nine to five where your salary is fixed. So I wanted to be doing night shifts, weekends on call. So I ended up looking into radiology and I think I just went and did a week at a hospital because I knew someone that works at a hospital. I was like, can I just like shadow you guys and see what you do? Which I really encourage people to do that as well. If you're, if you're thinking of doing something and you're

not sure about it, go and ask to do some work experience. And that doesn't matter how old you are either. So I did that. And God, I just remember the blood and guts. And I know that sounds crazy. You were so macabre. I was just so into this fast paced environment where you'd get a call that a trauma was coming in and you had to have your CT machine ready and you had to be in emergency waiting for them. And, and I just loved it. You have to know everything about the human body and how it works. There's a big science base to it. So the degree I did, it's called medical radiation science mastering diagnostic radiography so you can either do radiation therapy where you treat cancer or you can diagnose the patient so I went with diagnostic and I have been

doing that for 10 years and I have loved every second but it's not for everyone I get a lot of questions about it if you are like remotely sick by the idea of blood and guts and trauma and things like that it's not for you because it can be pretty intense you have almost like a double life where you have and you do work in radiography but then also have an interest in media and coming out of the show and doing the bachelor and that opening up a whole new world for you as well I think you're really like the poster girl for the fact that you don't have to stay in your lane it's okay to try a whole variety of different things I have this real interest in science health and I've been in medicine for so long but I have this other side to me that's been so

creative and artistic and I never knew what I wanted to do with it I always like was entertaining my family growing up and my friends I always wanted to make them laugh and so probably when I was about 25 I think I started I started at acting school and I didn't do it for any reason other than a hobby it got me out of a really dark place after a really horrific relationship ended I was like what am I going to do to consume myself like to take my mind off things and I'm like I'm just going to go and pretend to be somebody else. Well, I was like, I needed a new hobby. Um, and I was like, I've always wanted to do this. I'm going to throw myself into it. So I started at acting school in Sydney. Um, now I had to drive, I had to audition for the acting school and I got in and

I was like, and it was very expensive. And I was like, Oh my God, I can't believe I got in. I'm going to do it. I'm going to commit to this. But I was living in Port Macquarie, but I was so determined to do it that I used to finish a 10 hour shift in Port Macquarie, get in my car, drive five hours to Sydney and get there so late at night get up really early in the morning at seven to do because I had to condense because I could only go for the first half of the year I could only go one day a week so I did this huge day at acting school like 12 hours straight and then I would get back in my car and drive another six hours five and a half hours back to port to be back at work in time to do another 10 hour shift so I would just do this in 24 hours

And I did it every single week for so long because I couldn't live in Sydney at that time. Everything I had was in Port Macquarie, but I was so determined to do it. And people used to think I'm crazy. They're like, why are you doing that? And I thought, well, it's the only way I want to do it. And this is how I have to do it. I just didn't think of it as a big deal because there were no schools in Port Macquarie for

acting. You make sacrifices for the things that you want to do in life. And if something, especially whether it's work or relationships, no matter what it is, if there's something that you really want then you'll you will make it fit into your life and i loved it and it was my escape i looked forward to it and that's so true like anything in life if you want you can work hard enough to do it you do have to make sacrifices like it was a shit 24 hours but i loved it and i knew it was getting me to a point that i wanted to be at then i did that for a year and then um i ended up going traveling and then i studied an

acting school ever in scotland because i still loved it while i was traveling so i went to the royal conservatory of scotland that was really cool but everyone just thought i was just like this big joke because i had an australian accent and they were all scottish so i couldn't do a scottish accent to save me try it oh i say you look cute yeah i'm not gonna audition for anything scottish btm is scottish but um yeah then I came back and I still this is all before the bachelor guys this is like I've just loved it for so long so secretly Brittany went on the bachelor and didn't tell anyone that she's been doing acting classes why there you go I didn't how's that for a bit of saucy secret

sauce oh that's out in so many articles like that's not a new drop no but also I know that like it's one of those things where if you have any sort of acting or like music or any sort of creative ambition in that area and you talk about it when you're doing a reality tv show instantly people are like oh you're only doing this reality tv show because you want to be an actress exactly so you were pretty tactical in keeping it to yourself i made a conscious decision not to talk about it um because a i wasn't i wasn't acting as a job at that point i'd still been doing it for like for years as a hobby and i'm not an idiot i knew that if i went on there and said i'm an actor everyone would be like you don't want to find love and i hadn't acted so why

would I say I'm an actor because I I enjoyed something as a hobby but I wasn't an actor and I also had been single for six years and just wanted someone to love me and that's why I went on so yeah so guys I did that for a long time and then I decided I wanted to be a writer oh god here we go because I've always loved writing um so I decided I want to be a writer I started writing things for myself I started asking friends if I could write things for them and then I just I literally went out and approached people to write for them and I ended up there was a little online magazine that um actually said send me some work and I was like what you actually want it I was like okay so I sent them some stuff and they're like great can you start contributing

can you be a contributor and all of a sudden because I had sort of gone and this is still before the bachelor um all of a sudden because I have just gone and and chased something I wanted and I was really pushing for it and I was just contacting people, I got a job writing and I absolutely loved it. I started to interview people. I was just writing things that I was passionate about. So a lot of health, well-being, travel, things like that. And I just really, really loved it.

And I still want to write. I want to write a script. There's so much I want to do. So I did that for a little while. And all this time I'm always doing radiography. For me, radiography – It's the bread. It's the butter.

It's the bread. and my dad when i was choosing i remember when i was 18 and i was thinking about what i wanted to do in my life and he knew because i was an athlete i was like an australian champion athlete when i was 18 and um he knew i wanted to be in acting and things like that he always said possum i'm so supportive of anything you do but all i want and all i can suggest is that you go and get a career for yourself first where you know you're going to be safe and you don't have to rely on a man that was his advice he was always like you need to be able to look after yourself in case worst case scenario you need to look after yourself in case one day you're you don't have

a man to look after you one day he shits on you one day he leaves you you've got kids whatever he's like get a career that you can look after yourself and then chase your dreams and that's exactly what I did so I secured my career and I have never stopped working in it all these little things that I chase and all these dreams are like they're dreams and they're side projects and so I started to write then I decided I wanted to present and do something I was more passionate about so I started working with Beautiful Minds and that's for those that have listened to the podcast for a while you know that's a company that works for the government and they basically help kids around Australia with mental health issues so I just started to do that because I

wanted to do something I wanted to help people I wanted to talk face to face and change some lives still doing radiography and fast forward we I met Laura met you hello hello everyone yeah I met you and then we decided to keep being creative together and do this podcast still whilst doing radiography so I don't know did I just bombard you I've done a lot of things I know I think I think like one of the one of the key points from talking about trying and exploring all these different facets of career opportunities is that saying yes, saying yes to opportunities when they're presented to you, like really going out there and being proactive in a whole variety of different things. All of the things that you learn and all of the experiences

that you have, whether or not it feels like a linear path to get you towards your goal, all of the things that you're learning are cross-transferable skills, where one thing helps another thing that helps another thing. Exactly. And I think it's just really important that people, I think it's really important, something that you just said to me, maybe you'll never be an actress. Absolutely. I might never get a huge paying acting job. And that is so okay with me because inside I know that I wanted to do something and I did it. It's irrelevant what comes from that because I just, I know that in myself, if I didn't try, that's an immediate failure. And that's worse for me. I would rather go and just give something a whirl and someone

say oh it's not for you I'll be like okay cool well you know okay sometimes it's a bit restrictive to have this solid end goal and be like that's what I want because then you are only going to take steps a to z to get to that goal and the reality is is that if you don't know everything around that that project yet like if you don't know all the different facets of it then you don't know yet whether you're going to enjoy sort of this thing over here or that thing over there So sometimes taking a very wayward and non-linear journey towards your career path, which is what I feel like you have done in many ways and definitely what I have done, it's so advantageous because it means that you're learning along the way. You might study one thing at university because you think that that's what you want to do. And more often than not, people don't end up in that exact carbon copy of the job.

And it's about saying yes to these opportunities in order to sort of grow into that and see where you're going to end up. No, it makes sense though. In between when I was doing radiography and started acting, I decided I wanted to be a personal trainer as well. So I went and did a personal training course for, I think it took me 18 months. And again, I didn't know if I'd ever use that in my life, but I had an interest at that time. And later on, fast forward to Sydney, I got asked one day, I was just training in a gym because I love fitness. And they were like, oh, would you, have you ever thought about doing a personal training course? And I was like, oh, I actually am one. And they're like, oh, do you

want to do some work for us like that's great and I was like yeah they just started to pay me straight away the next day and saying yes to that opened so many opportunities for me I met so many people that then put me in contact with people that I could write for like it just all I think everything like you just said by saying yes to opportunities it opens so many other doors so I'm really, really big for A, you're never too old to start something new or try something new. B, I don't think you need to stay in your lane. I think if you want to go and explore opportunities and follow your dreams and try new things, go and do it because what's the worst that could happen? You don't succeed. Big deal. There's this really good quote as well, which is from Oprah Winfrey.

I think you've all heard of her. And it says, I believe luck is preparation meeting opportunity. and basically if you haven't been prepared when the opportunity came along you wouldn't have been lucky in the first place that's good so to wrap sort of your little career path what's your advice if you had to give a few pointers for people that are thinking of starting their own business oh my number one is just get started like whatever it is that you want to do whatever business venture it is even if you don't really know what you're doing right now just get started put pen to paper, start a website, get a logo, start the product. Because I think that action creates action and motivation brings motivation, which we've talked about in the past podcast.

But as soon as you start putting one foot in front of another, it becomes easier to sort of keep going down that trajectory. You don't not need it to be perfect. You just need to get started. And also like my second one is, is that you don't need to be an expert in something. Like we live in a day and age where everything's accessible to you on the internet you can have social media and the power of social media like leverage the shit out of that and then say yes to opportunities because the more that you network the more that you meet people the more that you surround yourself then that's where your opportunities are going to come from if anyone has some advice it's you because you've been there you've done it you've failed you've come back on top and you're still

here standing I guess for me the thing that I want to get across to people is just that you're never too old to start something new or chase a dream a lot of people you hear a lot of people say oh I'm too old I can't do it now I don't know enough about it you're absolutely never too old to try something new and I don't think you have to stay in your lane a lot of people are going to disagree with me on that and say that you need to be a perfectionist and really just nail one thing people actually say to me all the time Brittany why don't you just pick one thing like why do you do so much and I'm like because that's the life I want to live I have an interest in this stuff and I want to explore that. How do I know if I want to do it or not, if I'm not going to try it?

And also, I guess like you don't need to have it all figured out. Like life is long and it is okay to have career changes and path changes and change your mind about many things in life, relationships, work, all included. So if you're listening to this and you have had that little idea niggling in the back of your head or something you've wanted to try, but you've been too scared, this is your moment. This is your sign. This is it. Go and start it. Just Google. Google a name and trademark it. Let's start at that. That's a good one. Maybe start with your product and the actual thing you're going to be selling first too. Guys, I know that this one was a little bit different but we did have a lot of you sing

out saying that you wanted to know a lot about our careers and you wanted career questions and a lot of you have talked about wanting to change careers and you didn't know how and you were asking for advice. So, we just thought why not branch out away from relationships for a week and just have a chat about general life stuff. And we just really want to encourage all of you to be badass, independent women and go and chase your dreams. And women these days, we're having kids later.

We are our own bosses. We're running our own race. And I encourage you to go and chase the lifestyle that you've always dreamt of. All right, guys, you know that we never end an episode without our highlights and our lowlights of the week. It is our suck and sweet, baby. We love this section.

Give me your suck. Mine's super easy this week. My suck was that my work called me and said, this was two days ago, Brittany, you came back from Bali last week. The government's basically just said you can't work. You're going into isolation for two weeks. You can't leave the house. You can't come to work.

So I thought, oh my God, can't do the podcast. I don't have an income now for two weeks because I don't get paid if I don't work, which is actually crazy. if your government job especially in a hospital if they say to us you can't work they don't pay us and i don't know if a lot of people know that but someone needs to look into that anyway sure this has happened to a lot of people this week a lot of people have been sent home a lot of people who are on casual work their businesses that they work for are closed like this this suck has affected every single person i think and some people don't have an income at the moment it's

really really sad times for everyone i mean it's not even australia now it's not like the bush fires it's the whole world it's just insane what's your suite on like a slightly more uplifting note well my suite was they called me a day later and said oh false alarm you just scooted in you're allowed to work maybe that's a suck and it's sweet like you can work ha ha ha i was stoked because i was like okay i do need to go back to work i have i had time off for barley and you know i don't get paid if i don't work but um i was low-key like woohoo another two weeks off to work in the morning well i'm glad that you weren't in self-quarantine at the moment and we can be doing this podcast fully but anyway here we are we're here we are what's your suck

well my suck is that i had a little prang that was my suck oh with your ex-boyfriend's ex-girlfriend yes with my ex-boyfriend's ex-girlfriend so my little prang and my my weird encounter was bizarre so that was probably my suck also this week we have a new season launch for tony may and we were supposed to have a really special vip night which i was really excited about and we've been working towards for months and we had to call it off that was super disappointing but then my sweet is the fact that we do have our launch this week as in the range is launching online you're still launching the range you can still buy the stuff online although no one has a job at the moment so maybe it's not going to be that great and that is exciting but also keep in mind that we can still

have a launch party for you at a later date yes i know i know but everything's being kind of delayed But I guess, you know, so my sweet is that we've been kicking some business goals lately. So that's really exciting. That is amazing. Thank you. Didn't that coincide nicely with a business-esque chat? It did. Perfect.

I'm here for it. Guys, thank you for tuning in again. We do know it was a little bit of a different chat. We went a little bit left field today with the old career advice. We'll be bringing some relationship stuff back to you next week. Don't you worry. We'll be talking about fuckboys real soon. So please.

And maybe even paradise. Oh, God. Oh, God. I feel nervous in weird parts for you about this whole situation. Oh, you feel nervous? Imagine me just throwing myself to the wolves again, aren't I? Maybe I need to do a nervous poo for you. I'll tell you all about it.

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