Life Uncut - Should AI Bring Paul Walker Back From The Dead? Plus Britt’s REAL Wedding!

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

Hey Lifers!Britt is officially a wife!!We all got married; signed, sealed, delivered! Delilah was included and the v̶e̶r̶y̶ c̶a̶s̶u̶a̶l̶ day almost went off without a hitch but in true Britt... fashion, something happened that left us in stitches and Laura… without control of her pelvic floor. Matt has pretty drastically underestimated how soon the new baby will be here! Jess Bezos and Lauren Sanchez got married but we’re not talking about it because everyone else is EXCEPT for the wedding invitation. Over the weekend, Fast & Furious star Vin Diesel has said that he is planning to bring Paul Walker’s character back in the final installment of the franchise, using digital technology. Paul Walker, who played Brian O’Conner in the Fast & Furious franchise, died in a car crash in 2013 while the seventh film was still in production.  We have big questions about whether this is being done to honour Paul Walker’s legacy or if it blurs the lines of posthumous consent and is only being done to make a bunch of money. You can watch us on Youtube Find us on Instagram Join us on tiktok Or join the Facebook Discussion Group Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! XxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode was recorded on Camaragal land. Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Brittany. And I'm Laura. Let's get down to business, Laura. Let's get down, let's get down to business. How big is that baby? Oh, sorry. No, baby updates can wait. There's much more important things for us to tick off first.
Starting point is 00:00:27 I was hoping you'd say that. I want to remind everyone of the headline first. Let me pull it up. Hold on one second. I should have gotten prepared, but, I mean, I'm not. We've only been here for two hours. Here we are. I'd like to just read out the headline that was published a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:00:42 I know we touched on it, but then we have an update on this. Brittany Hockley reveals her wedding was fake and the shocking moment her husband was denied entry into Australia. We have some good news, firstly. Hang on, hang on. what's worse in that headline that my wedding was fake or that my husband was denied entry because it makes it sound like something happened or he got arrested the reason why i'm reading this out is because we have an update a very very important life update to share with you it's
Starting point is 00:01:10 legal my wedding's not fake i had a real wedding we signed the papers and it is all legit baby laura says we collectively like not that we all got married but laura and keisha were the witnesses Oh yeah. No, I was like, we literally signed the papers. Keisha and I, we are the ones who made it legal for you. Otherwise it would still be a fake wedding. It just sounded like, like we all got married. Like Laura's like, we signed the papers. We did have our legal wedding and I have been getting a lot of questions when I'm going to get married. I'm married. I'm officially married. Write that headline. No one's going to write that. I want everyone to know that I really did put a good strong case forward for live streaming it. And I was rejected. No, I almost was going to,
Starting point is 00:01:52 I was almost going to because it was the funniest wedding. Like even though it was the real one, it was almost not real. It was almost like the weddings were swapped. So the big Bali wedding that wasn't real, that felt more, it felt more real. And then this little intimate legal wedding felt like the joke. And I say that because maybe there was like less pressure on it because we'd already done it and the big festivities. We had this beautiful, very intimate, like I'm talking 10 people, basically all these
Starting point is 00:02:21 work people and my closest friends my family weren't there like it was a really we planned it within five days I don't know how we pulled that off we planned it within five days we got it done and it was so special but so fucking funny like from the second we stepped onto that boat because it was on a boat we did not stop laughing sorry days before this I think it was less than a week beforehand Brit turns to me and she's like okay so we're thinking next Wednesday and it's just gonna be really small I think I'm just gonna do my own hair and makeup and I laughed and I was like, Brittany Huckley, I know, please, you don't even know yourself. So I was doing my own hair and makeup. I honestly was. And then one of my really good friends, Kim, who you guys have seen across
Starting point is 00:03:01 the years, she's also like styles me. She's a stylist. I sent her what I was wearing. She's like, who's doing your hair and makeup? I said, me, I'm doing it. She went, absolutely not. Absolutely not. So she made me get it done. She made me, I would be happy to have had this wedding day with my own hair and makeup. Kim's an old friend who also, obviously she's a stylist, but we met her from back in the batch days like she was the stylist on batch yeah you guys connected and became really good friends after that and then she's always styled you yeah you you and her are like my longest best relationships from the bachelor like the stylist and someone on a different season weird no but I I think it's one of those things where obviously the Bali wedding
Starting point is 00:03:35 was incredible and beautiful and like we've spoken about it it was all the things that you wanted for a wedding it was my dream wedding it just wasn't real it was everything I wanted just wasn't legitimate wasn't real it's like a set I don't want to say it was high pressure because in no way was it like stressful or anything but it was like the stakes were higher there was just more organization it was like a big wedding the other day there was no schedule it was very relaxed 10 people on a boat you guys hadn't written vows it was all kind of off the cuff and it felt really intimate and it felt really really special yeah I stressed Ben out he wasn't stressed at all then when we arrived the celebrant is her name is Kaya and she's one of Laura's best friends she also
Starting point is 00:04:13 married Laura I've known her for years as well so that was really nice but just as we got on she's Like, so you guys got vows and stuff? Like, we're still doing a wedding. And I looked at Ben and I was like, shit, let's just improv. Like, let's ad lib. I've been to acting school. I can pretend like I love you. I can act it.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Well, I'm really, I mean, I talk for a living, so I don't need to prepare. But Ben was like dropping nuggets. He's like, I haven't prepared anything. And I said, it's okay. Just talk to me. Just say whatever comes to mind. It doesn't matter. We've done the wedding.
Starting point is 00:04:39 You've written the vows. Anyway, I think it made it so much better because we just looked at each other and said what we felt in that moment nothing was pre-planned nothing was prepared and I think it was more emotional and we probably felt more and cried more in that moment because of exactly what you just said Laura it's like we weren't overthinking anything there wasn't pressure there weren't 100 people watching and you know there weren't all these cameras and it just felt more I don't want to say real but it felt more in a way and I don't want this taken out of context it felt like we were more present well it was also I mean we can talk about how it was such a sentimental day
Starting point is 00:05:15 which it was it was very beautiful it was also it was also genuinely I don't think I've ever laughed so fucking hard in my entire life because as much as everything went off perfect seemingly beautiful there was one thing that happened that was not to plan well firstly I want to say one of my favorite parts besides marrying Ben Delilah got to be there Delilah is my bestie you all know that and I was really upset about getting married in Bali and not having her there like it was actually a big decision. Well, I got married on a boat that's called Charisma 2 and it's actually the boat of a lifer. So her name is Rachel, but she's got, she's got a boat business. She's got a boat business and she reached out and she said, I think I have some availability. Let me know the exact
Starting point is 00:05:57 days and times. And, and we worked it out and she was amazing. Like she was so good. She just got everything done within a couple of days time. And she was so relaxed and she allowed Delilah to come on. Cause I said, look, I don't know if you allow dogs, but I can only get married if my dog can come. And she was like, yup, we'll work it out. Anyway, Delilah had this like little veil that Keisha bought that you guys know. From Timu. Yeah, from Timu, $8. It wasn't from Timu. I don't want people being like, don't jump on Timu. It's not much better, but yes, it was from Amazon. And my job for the day was just to kind of like man Delilah, you know, get her onto the boat and look after her. Cause you were doing other things. She actually ended up just looking after herself.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Well, when we got onto the boat, she looked at me, you know, when dogs go onto escalators and they look at you like, bruh, do you know that the floor's moving? And so I had a dress, another dress from Stephen Khalil. Yes, I did it. And before you ask, it is dress number four. I know that. It was super low key. Most people, when they have multiple weddings, it's because they're marrying different people,
Starting point is 00:06:55 but you're just having the same wedding over and over, keep marrying the same guy. So I had a beautiful dress that was more simple and understated in comparison. like my dress for the wedding was very big if you haven't seen it we did make a four meter wide aisle yeah Kisha knows because she had to cart it across the country so we're at the end of the aisle we're about to walk down now the aisle is four meters long it's so small so it's very intimate there's 10 people I'm at the end with Delilah she's walking down the aisle with me and I have my dress I have my veil Ben's at the end the music starts playing the wedding song that I created for Ben with Sam Fisher and I just start crying because it took me back to the
Starting point is 00:07:32 wedding and I just felt so emotional Ben was crying it was beautiful I really want to set the scene because you weren't just crying you squatted down so you were squatting crying at the end of the aisle I was squat crying yeah you were squat crying with Delilah we've all been there but usually it's on like a Saturday night 4am because the I cannot explain that the second the song started playing it was like a tidal wave of emotions yeah that made me like drop to the ground crying laugh crying laugh squat crying cuddling Delilah it was a whole thing what I haven't said yet is it had to have been like that morning Rachel the boat owner messaged me and she said hey is there another day you want to do this do you want to move it to tomorrow or the next day
Starting point is 00:08:17 because this really weird windstorm has come through like not a storm it was sunny she's like just a windstorm you want to reconsider we wouldn't normally go out and I said there's not another day. I said, the celebrants here, people have taken time off work. Ben and I are away. Like it's today. And she's like, okay, well, I just wanted to let you know. Appreciate that. Anyway. So we're on the boat. It is so windy. I'm about to walk down. And then this gust of wind comes out of nowhere, rips my veil off my head as like we're in the middle of the ceremony and just like flies it away. But it doesn't go all the way away. It sort of just goes like a meter or two away. So I start running to catch it and everyone's sort of laughing.
Starting point is 00:08:56 You guys are laughing, but no one's panic stations yet except me. No one's helping. No one's helping. I'm in my heels and my dress running around this boat. But it was like a comedy show. Every time I would reach for the veil, like a millimetre away, the wind would take it away a little bit further. Anyway, everyone's running around the boat now.
Starting point is 00:09:13 It kept getting caught around poles and just as we go to get it, it would rip away. It flies off the boat 50 metres away as we're all watching it and just lands in the ocean. beautifully, beautifully laid out in Sydney Harbour in the middle of my ceremony. I was like, what the actual fuck? This couldn't be more Britney.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Laura, I've never seen anything like it. Laura's on the ground literally in a pool of weed. She had herself. Literally not a little leakage. It's like you just went to the toilet. I wish I could say I was embarrassed. I wasn't even embarrassed. I could not stop laughing.
Starting point is 00:09:51 and then I started coughing because I was laughing so hard. And that just doubled down. Every time I coughed, I pissed my pants. I literally had wee running down my legs. It was humiliating. Ben had to help me up off the floor. Ben, there's video footage. He was like, go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I was like, I fucking can't. No, you're like, I have. There's nothing left. Ben pulled Laura up off the ground because this is a six-month pregnant woman weeing on the ground. Ben pulls her up to help her, sees the pile of wee on the ground and just puts it back down. They just come out.
Starting point is 00:10:18 stay down there while the camera's here guys it's not i know we joke about my pelvic floor far out i really hope it comes back after number three but it is gone if i cough too hard if i have like a unprepared sneeze anything any sort of body function that is a surprise to my abdomen i piss my pants like it's not okay i cannot i've just i have the funniest video i'm gonna put on and stuff. I've just never experienced anything like it. No, we had to, everyone's like, where's Laura? And I was like, she wet herself. Give her a minute. I was like, I'm so, I'm really sorry to make it about me again. Standard. Once it was diarrhea and now you've wet yourself. Why is it always bodily function? There's something wrong with me. So then we walked back and I was like,
Starting point is 00:11:05 well, the show must go on. One of the crew members is out in a dinghy trying to fetch it. So we go back to the ceremony and I was like, what am I going to do? Keisha's like, I have an idea. So So she takes the $5 Timu mini veil off Delilah. It was $12. Sorry. I shouldn't shortchange you. I mean, it's underfinance of your sales. I'm surprised it wasn't $5.
Starting point is 00:11:23 It should have been $2. It also was so much shorter than the pitch made it look. It's about 30 centimeters long. It looked like it would be maybe half a meter. And yes, I could have looked at the dimensions, but who has time for that? I ordered it with like the most express post you can get. So it came the next morning just so that I knew and I was prepared for Delilah to have her accessories for the wedding.
Starting point is 00:11:43 But it was how serious Keisha was. She's like, wait, Bryn, I've got it. Don't worry. I've got a solution. I said, oh, did she bring me a backup veil? Is she like the best? Anyway, she goes and gets this Timu veil that literally just like spikes out of my head that is a dog veil, puts it in my hair,
Starting point is 00:11:58 and she's like, perfect. What is it? Delilah's veil. I'm a backup. I cannot walk down with Delilah's Timu veil. Show me. It's gorgeous. I cannot get married in Stephen Clough and Timu.
Starting point is 00:12:18 The show must go on. I did get married without my veil, which isn't the end of the world. Like I look back now, I can't stop smiling. I look back and I just think it was the best, one of the best days of my life, even though I just did have a very big, expensive wedding. This little one that I didn't plan was amazing. What does it mean now with Ben? So when does Ben go back home to Italy and then when is he back?
Starting point is 00:12:40 Yeah, actually he just messaged me now in this record. I'm glad that you're fully focused on the episode. Well, no, just before we started, like as we were about to start, I get a message from him and it made me want to cry because he said booking my flights on Saturday. So in like four days, so this Saturday he's going home. It's been so nice to have him. It's just not so normal.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I know, I know. He just – Because this is like the longest time you guys have like – I'm glad I'm married. Yeah, this will be two weddings and six weeks and three mini moons. So it's, it's been like the most wholesome time. It's been the most, I understand how that sounds. It's been two weddings, four dresses and three mini moons.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah, I get it. Well, I mean, go out. You're casual and low-key. Yeah, go off, queen. Go off. Oh, and I will, guys, I will post a picture as well because we did finally get our wedding cake. You guys know the pizza debacle that looks like four pizzas stacked on top of each other. I had a beautiful local patisserie, Eden Patisserie, that was like, we are going to
Starting point is 00:13:40 make you the cake that you never had. I promise it won't be a pizza. And they sent like the most beautiful cake. So I feel like we got all of our little moments, you know, but we got the cake. We lost the veil. You can't have it all. Well, hopefully now there's at least one headline that validates that you are married and it's legitimate.
Starting point is 00:13:55 The last thing we didn't say is because we did a whole wedding again. So we took off our wedding rings, like the ones that Laura made. We didn't get extra rings. No, no, no. They're just the same rings. They're still good. But these are like, you guys have seen them. They're beautiful, like big diamond rings that Tony May made.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Hashtag Tony May. Swipe up. No discount. There's no discount on those. Too expensive. They're really expensive. No discount. But for first time shoppers, you can use Life Uncut 20 for 20% off.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Yeah, we have a code. Hang on, are you making money off my wedding? Sorry. Fair, fair, fair. I get asked in the Facebook group all the time. So here it is. I'm joking. So Keisha's like, I've got a cute idea.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I'm going to like send them down the aisle on Delilah and Delilah can be the ring girl. And so in my head, I was like, cute. She's going to have like a little ring bag. It's going to be a whole thing. Now we're on a boat. So she sends Delilah down and there's like the scabbiest scrunchie, like hair elastic that she's pulled out of her hair on the day. No, no.
Starting point is 00:14:47 It was your hair tie. She's tied knots. Before you say it's scabby, I want to say that I was like, I don't have a hair tie. This is a problem. And I looked at you and I was like, where's that scrunchie you had on your wrist before? So it's the scabbiest little hair tie that she's like tied knots in.
Starting point is 00:15:02 And it's like, this is the dodgiest thing you've ever seen. Tied knots around all the rings, tied a knot to Delilah's collar. And Delilah's just running around the boat with these diamond rings attached to a scrunchie. I was like, this is dangerous. I have something to admit. I'm actually the one that tied it to the collar. Oh, I don't feel bad then. And I did a little double loop, secured them to the collar and off she went.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I was a Girl Scout. Laura saw how I did it and she freaked out going, that is not secure enough. Pass it here. They're not insured yet. I went to Gumnuts. And you know what they say, if you can't tie knots, tie lots. There you go. Yeah, that's what took me like 20 – we're at the end of the aisle
Starting point is 00:15:35 and everyone's watching. We couldn't get them off. I was like, oh. Anyway, I'm married. Anyway. If you can't tie a knot, tie lots. If you can't tie knots, tie lots. I feel like if you can't tie a knot, don't.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Well, sometimes you might really need to. So, like, you know, if it's a life or death situation, if you don't know how to tie a good knot, just tie lots of them. Anyway, we've really – we've focused on that for too long. Sorry, that's my fault. Okay. And so what's the size of your baby? Can it stand up in the womb?
Starting point is 00:16:00 Guys, I'm really sorry. I know we're all laughing about this. Last episode, I told the same story twice. I haven't lived it down yet. It's been brought up many times since. I'm not going to tell the same story. The kids still breach. Okay. It's still breach. It's still kicking me in the cervix, but I kind of forget how far along I am. Right. It's like, I forget this pregnancy. I think like third pregnancies, it goes quicker. You're obviously busy with other two kids. You're also not a stress so you're not like checking the pregnancy app and you're not looking at like milestones and like oh my gosh my baby's just grown fingernails it's like old news it's got eyelashes I have not checked a single milestone for this kid except for the stuff that you really
Starting point is 00:16:38 have to go and get done like your scans not so stuff anyway you even forgot that I did forget a scan but I made up for it Laura booked the results she booked the appointment to go to a doctor to get the results of a scan she didn't get surely that's something that they like pregnancy brain is known to be a thing surely they text you to tell you no apparently it's a third pregnancy thing so he was like have you booked in to have the baby at the hospital because you have to actually make an appointment right so it's not yeah like you can show up at a public hospital and have a baby if something goes wrong but like it doesn't work like that if you want a bed you don't turn up in labor and they're not like no but don't have your schedule you'll have to go to the
Starting point is 00:17:14 car park don't have your rinse mate there's been some horror stories i'm sure it's happened so my Hobbs was like, Hey, have you booked in to have the baby at the hospital? And he said, the only women I've ever known to forget to make their hospital bookings are women having their number three baby because they just, it's like, you know that you'll get things done, but you kind of just forget and then do it on your own timeline. Anyway, I was talking to Matt the other day and Matt looks at me, he goes, fuck, I can't believe that we're going to have a kid in like 18 weeks. And I was like, that sounds really far. I don't think it's that far. And I looked at my calendar we're having a kid in 12 weeks it is 12 weeks away that this baby will be out of me in on the
Starting point is 00:17:56 real world i think he meant we're having a baby the three of us we got married last week so we're also having a baby yeah so in case you were curious the the baby is currently a like cabbage or a lettuce uh that's the size of it and yeah we're going great 12 more weeks i feel like collectively we aren't ready no i same the peloton and the pilates machine that's in the baby's room would scream that I'm actually not prepared. I don't have a single thing. So I have not got the cot. I don't have the, like the side carrier where you put your baby in.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I don't have like an actual, we got rid of everything. Worrying. I feel like you have 12 weeks is 12 weeks. You have time. Like you just need to do it. I did get Delilah's veil express shipped. I'm sure you can get Bezos to the rescue. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Cause he needs the business. Speaking of Jeff Bezos, we did want to speak about the wedding until we realized that every single person in the entire universe and every media publication has spoken about it. Every podcast has done it. We're like, let's not bore you guys. So I feel like it's been done. But I do want to say for $52 million, I was surprised
Starting point is 00:19:00 at what they did for $52 million. That's what I want to say. It doesn't scream $52 million wedding to me. They had to pay for all the jets. Yeah. And the security. And kick everyone else who was meant to be in Venice who had already booked in into other hotels.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And the environmental impact. With fossil fuels and so on. Yeah, offsetting carbon emissions. The only thing I also want to add is if you haven't Googled what the invitation looks like, do yourself a favour. Do you reckon it's real? Do yourself a favour and just Google Jeff Bezos wedding invitation. It's real.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Because it screams to me that someone has the free version of Canva and they just got some click art and put it together. It screams like I would have done it. Do you think it could have been in jest though? There's apparently a bit of a trend going around of that kind of a thing. Potentially. The 52 mil, they've got money for people. So I think it was intentional.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Do you know what? Look, we're going to save you the Google. We're going to post it ourselves to socials and we're going to move right along. That's what we're going to do. So something that I wanted to talk about that just came to light late last night and this morning. Hot off the press. So hot off the press. Steaming.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah. And something and someone everyone knows about, Vin Diesel. So over the weekend, Vin Diesel, who is the creator and producer of the whole Fast and Furious franchise, which we all know there's 10 of them. They've been absolute blockbusters. I thought that there was a million of them, honestly. It's Fast and the Furious is the gift that keeps on giving. Well, he made a pretty big statement.
Starting point is 00:20:24 He has said that the final installment, which will be number 11, or some people say it's like 10.5. 10.5. So over the weekend at an automotive car fest that is run by Paul Walker's brother, Cody. Now, that sounds convoluted, but bear with me. Vin Diesel was at the car fest and made this huge announcement about the final installment of the franchise.
Starting point is 00:20:46 He has said that they plan on using CGI and AI to bring Paul Walker back to life and put him in the final film of Fast and Furious. For those of you that don't remember, Paul Walker passed away halfway through filming number seven of the film. So they'd filmed the first half. He had a horrific car accident where he passed away. And they finished the film by using some of his brothers to stand in, some CGI to overlay his face, some old archive footage of him to finish number seven. And
Starting point is 00:21:18 everybody sort of thought that that was done and dusted. Fast forward a few more films, we're at the final installment and he has said that he will only do number 11 on three conditions. One, it has to be filmed back in LA. Two, it has to go back to that core of being like really car related, really car driven because it's sort of skewed away from that. And three, he would only do it if paul walker could be in the film have a listen to what he said the studio said to me then can we please have the finale of fast and furious april 2027 i said under three conditions reuniting dom and brian o'connor so this has really raised a question around the moral decision making of using ai to bring someone
Starting point is 00:22:15 back from the dead and now the reason why this is slightly different i know you touched on this in terms of paul walker being in fast and furious in film seven furious seven is what it's called they've already used cgi of him in the past but that was in order to complete a movie in which he had already started filming and was really quite a long way through the process so there's only a small portion of the end of that film if you guys remember where he is either cgi or there's body doubles where it's his brothers like filmed from behind this feels really different i mean he died in 2013 we're now 2025 this movie isn't going to come out until 2027 so we are so far down the track and it is going to be a completely new storyline that's the final chapter or the final
Starting point is 00:23:00 movie of this series and sequence and it means that all of the footage that's going to be used is going to be completely created through AI and through the current advancements that exist with AI technology. I think it's really important for us to touch on the monetary gains of this series. So the Fast and Furious franchise as a total has generated over $7 billion at the global box office, which makes it one of the most successful film franchises of all time. Now, as we've established, there are 10 of these films with the part two of the last episode coming out in 2027. But just to give you an understanding of how much money they have made individually, the most successful film that has been released was Furious 7, which accumulated $1.5 billion. That is the film that Paul Walker passed away in.
Starting point is 00:23:48 The reason why it was so successful is because by large, most people wanted to see how that movie played out. And it was such a huge, momentous time in pop culture. And I think it was felt across the world. It was kind of akin to like when Heath Ledger died. and he was only 40 at the time so everyone wanted to see like how did that play out Paul Walker's death had a very significant impact in the exposure and also the visibility of these films I'm not saying that bringing him back is in any way purely motivated by money because it does seem as though Paul Walker's family and Vin Diesel who by all accounts is one of Paul Walker's best
Starting point is 00:24:24 friends truly cares about the legacy of Paul Walker and cares about the legacy of the Fast and furious franchise. But we can't deny that there's a monetary aspect that's connected to this. Yeah, I think there's obviously monetary gain, but I personally don't think that it is money driven. And I say that because it does give me a little bit of the ick. I've been trying to work out how I feel about it. And I don't think I like the fact that somebody doesn't have a say over their image. Having said that, we don't know that he didn't sign on to an entire franchise. We don't know that there weren't clauses in his contract to say that you can use his image to finish a franchise.
Starting point is 00:25:00 We don't know. What we do know is that Vin Diesel and Paul Walker were best friends. When Paul Walker died, his daughter Meadow was only 15 years old and Vin Diesel became her godfather. And he has stayed so close to her the entire time. Like he stepped in as a bit of a father figure. He went from godfather to acting like a father. And he really looked after her because she was so young.
Starting point is 00:25:22 We know that the family has approved it, which I think says a lot. I don't believe Vin Diesel, because he's a creator and a producer, I don't think that he would put Paul Walk in a film if his family said no. So I guess the question for us and the audience is, because there has been a lot of pushback, a lot of people are saying it's disgusting and leave it where it was, you know, like that people believe that they shouldn't have even finished the series after it, that it should have finished at seven. But then there's a part of me that thinks, well, who are we to say that when the closest people in Paul's life have said that they want it to happen and that it's okay I know but also then that brings into question like who owns
Starting point is 00:26:00 someone's image like okay hear it out if I pass away tomorrow and I drop dead the podcast is continuing with your face on Keisha does yeah does that mean that Matt for the rest of my existence like for the rest of his life has the right to say yeah you can use Laura's image and put words into her mouth and you can use her to continue a business because at the end of the day Fast and furious as much as yes it's a legacy and I understand that there's more of a legacy piece in this it is a business yeah and so I wonder like is it necessary and is it as a viewer is it something that we actually really want to see do we want to see AI technology being used to bring people back from the dead I think no usually no I don't think you can just start a new film and put
Starting point is 00:26:44 someone that's passed away in it but I understand why in this sense and I do have some interesting information about who owns the image so the ownership not matt sorry me the ownership of paul walker's image particularly the cgi used to recreate him in the fast and furious films is complex involving both copyright and rights to publicity generally the copyright for the visual image and any related software belongs to the author so in this case the cgi creators they own it however apparently the rights to the publicity which control the commercial use of a person's likeness can be held by Walker's estate meaning the estate controls how his image is used even if it's digitally recreated his estate is owned by his daughter Meadow so if this you know we
Starting point is 00:27:31 haven't spoken to a lawyer about this which is just our own research on the internet but if that is true then essentially the estate is owned by his daughter Meadow and Meadow has approved for his likeness to be used so legally obviously it's fine it just comes down to that moral conundrum of are we happy? Is this setting a precedence for us to bring back people from the dead and put them in future films? Yeah, but I don't know. I mean, for me, I think it's a bit of an ethical minefield because the advancements have been so quick, right? We've made leaps and bounds from what we were able to do two years ago to what we are able to do now. It is so convincing. We've all seen AI where it's taken us a second to realize whether it's real or it's not real. And I think that for
Starting point is 00:28:09 that reason, a lot of the legislation around AI hasn't actually caught up because this is often what happens in the world of technology technology moves so fast and legislation moves so slow and so the rules and regulations aren't there and don't catch up in time I can't say that I have like a solid feeling about whether I think it's like ethically wrong or ethically great but I think it really opens up a can of worms around who owns someone's image and what happens to your image once you pass away because I understand that even in what you're saying Brit that it belongs to the estate and it also belongs to the AI creators. But what belongs to that person who died? And they don't get a say in it. And I dare say that even if there were things that were signed in
Starting point is 00:28:51 the contract, this version of AI didn't exist when Paul Walker was alive. He didn't know that complete, and I'm talking like such a significantly real version of him could be created and that an entire movie could be made with him never speaking a single word of what was said in that movie. It's pretty fucking mind blowing. I think the biggest question I have about this actually doesn't relate to like, you know, whether they've given consent for it to happen. Cause I think that that's quite ambiguous and I think it's all a bit murky. I think what I actually have a bit more of a problem with is the fact that they're doing
Starting point is 00:29:27 this under the guise of, oh, we're trying to create a legacy for him. We're trying to honor him. And, and, you know, this is what the fans want and this is what the story was made around. And he was, you know, the first protagonist and blah, blah, blah. I just don't believe that because the movie that he passed away in the 7th, that made $1.5 billion, but the most recent one only made $714 million. So I just don't think that we can actually separate the fact that there wouldn't be a financial profit or a financial gain that they're going to make by bringing him back because they've shown it. You know, they've shown that people have an interest in Paul Walker being a part of these movies. Totally. It would definitely be the most watched version of a Fast and Furious movie because
Starting point is 00:30:08 everyone would want to see just how crazy that, well, firstly, the AI advancements are, but also everyone wants to see him again. And as much as people say, no, I don't think I actually want to see that play out, we will out of curiosity because it'll be the first of its time. It'll be so widely publicized. The PR around it will be insane. And I think it'll be one of those cultural moments where even if it feels a bit weird, you'll still want to see how it was done from a voyeuristic perspective if it was a legacy piece I don't think it needed to have five more movies you know so if he died in Furious 7 that could have been the last movie or there could have been one or two and he still is mentioned in almost every movie he still has this footage
Starting point is 00:30:46 that alludes to him or there's a car that it could have been him in it but you don't quite see him so I know that they have always used him throughout the storyline and I think that that's totally acceptable because he was such an integral part of Fast and Furious. But there is something about this whole making an entire movie talking to a dead man who is being characterized by AI that to me feels quite disturbing. I'm battling with how I feel. I know it's like, I really want to see him again. No, he was so beautiful. I said it gives me a little bit of the ick and it does, but I think it's really situational. I don't necessarily agree with you Keisha on, I mean, I do and I don't. Of course you can't separate the fact that
Starting point is 00:31:27 it's going to make a shitload of money but for who is my question well I truly believe that this is a big from Vin Diesel's motives he doesn't need money right he's going to make money yes absolutely but I think would be remiss to say that he is doing it for his legacy because he this wasn't his idea the studio I've said to him please can we finish this off and he's the one that said only if I can see it out with my best friend Paul I think that it was actually quite an emotional decision and a considered decision, not a monetary one. Yes, there'll be benefits, but his family are benefiting. His daughter, who he left at 15, is benefiting.
Starting point is 00:32:03 The studio producers are benefiting. Yeah, of course. No, but it wasn't their idea. It was Vin's stipulation. He was like, I will only film it if you make this happen. I think that's why the situation as a whole is different for me. If I view bringing back someone from the dead to put in a film, I feel like that is separate to this because this was
Starting point is 00:32:23 such an elaborate franchise it was so big it was based around two best friends in real life and I think there was so much character development that the world grew with them so I feel like I look at this situation differently to if it was just like hey we're gonna make a movie with Heath Ledger like out of the blue okay let's say that we're all all right with this they make 2027 this final version of Fast and Furious we all watch Paul Walker on screen risen from the dead where's the line can they bring back child actors can they bring back musicians because they're doing you know biography or whatever it is you know like do we need actors anymore do we need actors okay firstly do we need actors that's already the question though if there is a series that a child
Starting point is 00:33:04 is in whatever it is you know and that kid dies who owns that child's image are we allowed to create an AI version of that actor because we were all so invested in that child's life like I don't know where the line is and at the moment it feels as though that line is very murky and so I think that there needs to be some parameters that are put in place around what ownership do we have individually on our likeness when we're not here anymore to protect it. But this is where it gets even more complicated and muddier. Even when people are alive, you can deep fake someone alive. Now you can deep fake someone's face. They can be doing whatever they want. They can be on the dark webbing porn. They can be literally doing anything
Starting point is 00:33:44 and that person doesn't own it and they're still alive. So I guess that's the question people are asking is, well, I can't control it right now and I'm here. Is it morally that corrupt? I don't know. Well, I mean, the reality is there's lots of legislation around deepfakes. Deepfakes are illegal. Like if someone's making deepfake pornography or explicit material, that is illegal. From 2024, those legislations were brought in. So there's many protections. Is it perfect yet? No. But this is such a gray area. This is something that is legal, that is okay. And it's because it's not sexualized. But then again, maybe it is. Maybe that AI character's playing out a sex scene like who's to say where the limitations are in this when the reality is
Starting point is 00:34:24 is that it's a movie and they're acting is that person making out with an actress on screen like are they getting their clothes off down to their bloody budgie smugglers like what are they doing and they can't give consent to it because they're dead like it's it's really a crazy world that we're living in and I think the surface level of it seems like it's okay but then the further you unpack like the actual nuance around well what is that character doing in that film and would that person have chosen to do that would that be a role that they would have said yeah would paul walker 15 years later still be going you know what yeah i want to keep doing fast and furious would he have made other decisions for his life like we don't know i think that's the most interesting
Starting point is 00:35:06 thing is that a lot of the time in situations that are similar to this i don't think there has been one exactly like this people say it's what they would have wanted and the truth is is that you can't apply that to something with technology that existed in 2013 because this technology, like you said, Laura, it didn't exist then. So you can't really wholly, fully say it's what they would have wanted. You don't know. This stuff didn't exist. And to be honest, I'm a bit more confused.
Starting point is 00:35:32 His brothers look pretty similar to him. Like I don't know why his brother can't just learn to act and play the role. I think it would have been a nicer version of how to honour your brother is by like taking on that character. That's happened in, you know, films or TV shows in the past where people have passed away or they've quit, you know, and they've just had to replace the actor and pretend like they didn't completely change what they looked like.
Starting point is 00:35:54 But we all know that that doesn't work from a viewer perspective, from an audience perspective. We don't like it. We don't enjoy that. I think that the reality is that would impact box office success and we probably wouldn't want to go and see Paul Walker's brother pretend to be Paul Walker, but we will pay to go and see an AI version of him being recreated.
Starting point is 00:36:13 The things that you might think you want 10 years later, you might not be as interested in them anymore. I'm not saying Paul Walker wouldn't want to still be doing Fast and Furious. The reality is we don't know. We just don't know. I agree. You know what they will do though? They will ensure that his storyline is incredible.
Starting point is 00:36:28 He wouldn't be doing anything he wouldn't have done in a past film. I think when they say things like he would have wanted this, I think if you sort of extrapolate a few of these pieces, he would have wanted it in the fact of his daughter is going to benefit from it and make money and he knows she's secure. Outside of that, I don't think you can say what he wanted. So that is 100% accurate, Keish. Like there's no way to say what someone wants 10, 15, 20 years later, apart from the fact, please continue to look after my daughter.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I'm sure that that is the part that they're focusing on. But it's going to be interesting. Am I going to see it? Yeah, probably. Like I think that is going to be one of the highest grossing films of that franchise. I'd be shocked if it isn't. I think that every single person that's kicking off about it saying,
Starting point is 00:37:08 you know, this is disgusting, they'll probably end up seeing it as well. You know, there'll be some hate watching, there'll be some curiosity watching, there'll be some passion watching. Like people are going to love the fact that he's coming back and there are people that are excited about that. It will be a huge success, but it does raise a lot of questions around the moral implications of what it means for future AI in movies, for sure. I'm going to give you guys permission.
Starting point is 00:37:31 You can continue the podcast with my face if you want. Just don't make me too rogue. Like just keep me like one, make me better actually. I've got some making up to do. well it is time for accidentally unfiltered and came down to two i'm not gonna lie i made an educated choice this week one was very poo driven so i thought i'd rest that and we can circle back to that so i was chatting with my partner and his dad about the noosa triathlon which my partner was training for i am a terrible swimmer so naturally i don't participate my father-in-law turned to me
Starting point is 00:38:01 and asked if i was good at freestyle to which i responded no way i'm strictly a doggy style girl His eyes bulged out of his head and he looked absolutely shocked. My partner's head snapped up in my direction and the conversation went silent. I couldn't work out what I had said wrong, but I just assumed he was shocked I couldn't swim. A few minutes later, my heart sank to my stomach when I realized that the swimming stroke I was referring to is called doggy paddle, not doggy style. I had told my father-in-law my favorite sex position. For context, my father-in-law is a very shy and conservative man and this made him feel extremely uncomfortable. it's pretty it's pretty funny no way i only do doggy stuff i just love doggy stuff
Starting point is 00:38:41 he's like doing doggy pedal i can just imagine though like if he's very sweet he wouldn't have said anything he probably knew what she meant turned around high-fived his son all right guys it's time for second sweet britney what is your sweet i know you're married but we also have another sweet yes obviously getting married my sweet this week would have to be Can I say I made the ultimate comeback of all comebacks on Dancing With The Stars? I got shat on last week. You didn't get shat on. I was at the bottom of the leaderboard and he said I was drunk at a party.
Starting point is 00:39:12 He also said I didn't use my hips. It was a disaster. I got shat on. Fine. I don't care. We laughed and we laughed and we laughed. You did care though. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:39:20 You cared quite a bit. I actually didn't. I was like. You expect it, right? You know, you go in to expect to be shat on. You know that that's a part of the show. You know you're not a dancer. You expect that Craig, I mean, for everyone who's watched it,
Starting point is 00:39:33 you know Craig is going to say something nasty. He just is. But he's also going to say something nice afterwards. But the thing is we're so negatively geared, we only hear the nasty thing. I think he said he actually, like, enjoyed your dance and stuff as well. He said he enjoyed my enthusiasm. That's such a, like, a not – that's like a backhanded, like, good try.
Starting point is 00:39:49 You were happy. You smiled out there. That's what you say to a kid as well at school who's, like, doing terribly and you're like, but she's really enthusiastic and it also just means that they talk too much. He essentially said you were terrible, but you had good energy. That's what he said. You got the participation award.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Yeah. Yeah. So I did the samba, which is really hard. It's like a real hippie one. It's very technical. And I did really well. And I was shocked, but I got the first nine of the season. And I hate to brag, but here it is.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Yeah. I was like, I got a nine. I was like, fuck yeah. I was really stoked. And it was like, have a look at my Instagram if you haven't seen it, but it had this really hard flip thing where I had to like flip in the air and land on his shoulder as like the finale. With your ass in his face.
Starting point is 00:40:33 With my ass in his face. I hadn't been able to do it. I can't tell you. I was almost in tears. I was beside myself begging my partner, Craig, to change the final move because I could not get it. And we'd been doing it for five weeks. I was like, I was like, when's enough enough?
Starting point is 00:40:47 Like how long until we do a backup? He's like, we're not doing a backup. You'll be fine. so I went into it not being able to do it I think I'd maybe pulled it off badly once and we just did it I just I don't know if it was the adrenaline but it felt really good like you know what it's like well it's like you spend so long trying to do something I don't think I ever nailed the lift but yeah it felt really good oh yeah we did one of our waltzes yeah you did a spin we had a few spins no like the big air one I remember you did like did I remember so long ago maybe I'm just
Starting point is 00:41:16 fake it no one's gonna look it up just take it you did that quadruple backflip twist that's true I did that yeah cartwheel into a backflip into a lift yeah that's right yeah you got 11 I got I got I got perfect scores the highest scores in Dancing with the Stars history now that I remember yeah I think you won the award okay whatever and my suck is it hasn't happened yet but Ben is leaving at the end of the week so I know that that I'm gonna be yeah I might not be in a good way next week guys I'm just telling you that it's gonna be the hardest goodbye we've ever had yeah it will be at least like this time you can be like well at least i know you're coming back he's got it you're legally obliged you're legally
Starting point is 00:41:55 you're like well it doesn't happen no she doesn't have to can you divorce someone from a different country yeah yep yep he doesn't have to divorce me guys he can just not come back it's not a homing pigeon anyway what's yours all right my suck for the week to be fair i don't have a suck this week and I know that that kind of goes against the rules I don't have a suck I feel pretty great and also I've kind of come out I'm at a good point of the pregnancy like I feel good I'm positive about it you weed all over yourself on a boat that's fine honestly if that's the lowest of the low like it's also the suck of every week but also like at this point of pregnancy with Lola I was waking up every day vomiting like every single day and I had chronic pain I was in and out
Starting point is 00:42:39 of hospital so like these are just a very different pregnancy I honestly sometimes forget that I'm pregnant as does everyone else it seems yeah except when I piss my pants but my sweet for the week is it's work related but Tony May related we just had our biggest month ever of like business in the 15 years that we've done Tony May lunch is on Laura so usually the biggest month of the year is November obviously like Black Friday is everyone's Christmas shopping but we've just on our end of financial year sales and we did the same figures in June as what we did in November last year so we've doubled our business size you're welcome that must have been my wedding ring six months yeah it must have been the pushes that I did yeah but I appreciate you
Starting point is 00:43:21 no I'm just really proud that's huge yeah we've invested heaps in the company over the last little bit like we've done two renovations we've done a whole new website build nice to see that it pays off yeah it's been a really big we've hired heaps of new staff like we've got a staff dinner next week and there's like 23 people coming so it's really cool but we have been in this real growth phase and it's also really scary because my sister's very conservative so she's my business partner she's super conservative when it comes to spending money and i'm like you gotta spend money to make money and it doesn't always go down well i think both things can be true i think they're good to be yes in business together 100 and i think you have two of you oh yeah it might not
Starting point is 00:44:00 end up well it's life on card yeah no but the problem is in the past we've always been understocked so like we've always sold out of things way too early during sale periods and stuff and we've just had not a high enough stock supply to be able to service and so we didn't really know what the limit was right like we didn't know how many orders we would have got had we had that stock on hand yeah and so we really took a punt this end of financial year and, like, we really kind of got ourselves prepared and it was a gamble and it really paid off. And so it's been, like, a very, very, very business rewarding month for us.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Oh, that's really cute. Yeah, and I can now say to Alicia and be like, it's all going to be fine. So now we've got to get prep for Black Friday. But we've been doing this for, like, 15 years now and it really was just this moment where we had, like, we were so proud of ourselves. Oh, we're proud of you.
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