Life Uncut - Should We Feel Guilty For Speculating About Princess Catherine?

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

Hey Lifers! Britt has gone into the jungle!! She's petrified of heights and we don't know why she didn't lie about her fears.  It's Laura's 38th birthday!!!! (It's possibly her 37th but we've referr...ed to google for reference). Laura speaks candidly about not being a birthday person and why she feels a little bit indifferent to gifts; unless they are plants. We speak about being in certain places of life by a certain time as the years click over.  Over the weekend, Princess Catherine announced that she has been battling a cancer diagnosis and undergoing preventative chemotherapy treatment. We question whether people in positions like hers are entitled to privacy just like everyone else, and whether we should feel bad for contributing to the public speculation. Did she feel as though she had to come out with this information because of public harassment or because the PR team royally f*cked up so many times that it pushed her into a corner? You can find the episode with Ellie Cole here! You can watch us on Youtube If you have an question please send it on it to life uncut podcast on Instagram Join us on tiktok Or join the Facebook Discussion Group Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! xx  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands were never ceded. We pay our respects to their elders past and present. Always was, always will be Aboriginal land. This episode was recorded on Darug Walamutta land. Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. And I'm producer Keisha, filling in for Brit because she has entered the jungle. And last night, Keish and Mitch Turi came over to my house and we sat there and we all sat there like nervous parents watching Brit enter into the jungle.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Also, it took their sweet ass time. I was like, is she even on this episode? I started to feel as though we were going to have to come back tonight and watch Brit actually enter the jungle. But they did eventually get there. And I was actually really impressed with the cast. I know every year everyone's like, who the fuck is that? and usually sometimes sometimes i'm like genuinely fair no clue who that person is but it's usually
Starting point is 00:01:02 because you know i'm an nrl girl it will be because they're an afl person you know it would be because they're not in my niche categories i like that you use that example but that's exactly what played out on last night's episode the only person that we were all like who the fuck is that was some guy who was you know an ex afl player and everyone from victoria south australia western Australia right now are screaming sorry sorry it should come as no surprise after five years but I'm not football doesn't it doesn't get me juices going it's not for me people are unsubscribing sorry the thing I don't understand and will never understand about I'm a celebrity is why people don't lie what I'm saying is okay so Brit is petrified of heights it's probably the one thing
Starting point is 00:01:42 that she deeply deeply cannot do and doesn't ever want to put herself in that situation she has no interest in skydiving she has no interest in bungee jumping but the girl is competitive and will do pretty much everything right so that to me is i guess it's a surprise like i would have thought had i not known brit that she would have been okay with those sorts of things because she seeks out adrenaline yeah she's an adrenaline in other ways yes but she last night had to go out she walked out into this little plank it was like a trap door and then it's like over the top of a gorge or something and the trap door too so you could see through it yeah and then it opens and you plummet down and at the same time you had to like recite a number that was in front of yourself
Starting point is 00:02:21 and majority of people who were there doing it there was five of them were okay with with it even if they were scared they they had processed it pretty well and Brit was it was actually so hard to watch she was in tears she was visibly uncomfortable with the whole situation and my question is why the fuck didn't she just lie and say that she was scared of snakes why would you give like we've done reality tv we know how this works why would you give them the truth i would lie why didn't she say that she's petrified of reptiles and then she would have had to have done the snake challenge or something i'm terrified of ice cream oh it would be so bad if it just fell from the ceiling i sleep petrifies me
Starting point is 00:03:05 don't let me near it i haven't slept in years not because i can't but because i'm fucking petrified of it caffeine makes me psychotic yeah so that would be a really really bad tv for you if you were to give me coffee yeah terrible terrible see so i don't understand why people are honest about these things because you know it's going to be used against you i also don't and i don't know why brit didn't because she does know better but she absolutely knows better you're right but she did a really good job and i think that they very much deliberately put her in the position where she was the one who was going to have to fall through the trap door instead of doing the reptiles but can you imagine how so like the amount of drama that they managed to
Starting point is 00:03:46 get over those few minutes it might have been like maybe five minutes of brit on screen where they were like really drawing out the intensity of how scared she was what it made me think at the time was how long they would have had her standing out on that plank for like that would have been filmed over 25 minutes half an hour just to try and get as much fear out of her as possible and that I hate that makes me feel even worse for her and I I felt like a proud mom you know when you when you're so nervous okay no one no one's gonna know this because like we don't have children who are old enough to deal with this majority of listeners but I remember if I was competing in something and my mom would be so nervous that she'd be almost crying for me and I'd be like
Starting point is 00:04:25 settle down mom no you know your parents didn't do that they absolutely didn't do that they were like go out there and win you're not coming home because my love is conditional you little shit that's a real flashback really in like she cared that's really kind no not for me for more for my sister in gymnastics but like it's you know i recognized it in her no even when i was doing when i did dancing with the stars like matt had it he was so nervous for me that he couldn't he just couldn't he was so nervous and that's how i felt last night for brit sitting on the couch i was like oh my god my child they're gonna throw her off a little platform i was so worried about up but she did good guys i don't hate them for it made good tv when i was thinking about the
Starting point is 00:05:06 situation it's the anticipation of that floor falling beneath you that's worse it's not the fact that she's at a height like if that were me i've been bungee jumping and oh we know keith oh we know there's a ride i went wild wait why do we know because last night we took a trip down memory lane and i thoroughly enjoyed it and i thought it was very relevant to the conversation and i was told to shush and that it was not relevant so why we were all deep in watching bread and like whilst i was at the peak of my feet like i was invested we were sitting there on the couch mitch and i hand in hand like really absorbed and then keisha goes i've been to africa i did the bungee jump and the gorge suite
Starting point is 00:05:53 let me show you photos and be like Keisha not now and you were like hold on I've even got a video recording of me screaming let's put that in here let's let's include the scream of Keisha the reason the video is so funny is because I sound like I'm being stabbed it's not it's not a cute girly scream that's true that's a terrified scream and also I was really terrified because from the time that it took for them to wrap towels and a bungee cord around my feet to the point of which I was plummeting off of that bridge was less than 15 seconds okay there were no checks there was not me going are you sure I know we do this day in day out off you go jump off hurry up you're holding up the schedule there's 20 people behind you
Starting point is 00:06:37 I can't bungee jump I did try when I was in New Zealand and I had a panic attack and Matt ended up taking my bungee jump because um we paid for two and I didn't want to waste the money but this isn't about me and last night when you were like you were like showing us the family photo album we were like keisha now is not the time now is not the time there's always that one friend who wants to show you photos from their holiday that they had four years ago sorry when was the last time you were with wild rhinos okay when was the last time you saw a zebra milking its calf i don't even know if it's called a calf but i have had those experiences and i thought you didn't i did i did i do and i do but look it wasn't the time wait stop can we just play that audio again one
Starting point is 00:07:18 more time perfect i'm glad we've all experienced it wasn't the time of the place all right it was meant to be about brit she did a really good job but all i could think about when she was on that platform is that this is right at wet and wild up in the gold coast and you're standing there and there's water rushing down your back and you wear this shell thing people that have been they know i don't know but this is rogue and i'm here for it there's four of you in a row and you're all looking at each other going why are we doing this this is an opt-in situation and then the floor falls from beneath you and i will say you get a free enema it really oh gross i've just thought about what would be in that water oh i don't want i don't want to do that ever again
Starting point is 00:08:02 no you you just clench shut i say this because i made the mistake at wet and wild and i got a free enema there and now i don't go on water slides not actually it wasn't wet and wild it was the one in Bali but it was not good it was not good that was the closest thing I have experienced to what Brit went through and I think she did a really good job because it was really terrifying for me and I'm not scared of heights at Wet n Wild yeah she was over a gorge I'm interested to see I mean obviously we're going to talk about the show it's not going to be the only thing we talk about we promise but last night was a very big night it was the very first time that Britt entered and I am excited to see how some of the other contestants go in particular
Starting point is 00:08:42 someone like Skye Wheatley because I know her from social media I know the version of herself that she presents on social media I also know that she can be quite polarizing people either love her or they hate her and I think that we're very critical of influences and of social media personalities and last night she came in with a lot of personality and she was very herself I guess and on one instance she also had a moment where she put her hand into the box and she got bitten by a snake and she had to get a star out and that sort of stuff is quite endearing to see people overcome their fears so I wonder how this is going to play out for all of the participants and who's going to get their redemption arc who's going to be seen more humanized on tv who is it going to
Starting point is 00:09:26 really kind of like display their personality in a more authentic way and we're going to dislike it And I find that a really interesting part of how these reality shows play out. Me too. My favourite moment of last night was actually when Britt got into the camp and she saw Ellie Cole. Our Ellie. We love Ellie. She's amazing.
Starting point is 00:09:45 She is the most decorated Paralympic athlete I think we've ever had in Australia. So most medals. Of all time. And she was on the podcast with you guys about a year ago. It'd have to be about a year ago now. It was in January last year, yeah. I'll actually link that episode in the show notes so that you can go back and listen to it because it was such a good episode.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Ellie is a straight shooter. She tells it how it is. I think she's going to make such good TV because she is not the type of person that will sugarcoat her opinions. And she's really funny. Well, this is now, so, you know, RIP to maths. I'm a celebrity. Get me out of here.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Don't think I would ever say that. There has never been a time in history that I have said that, and I probably will never say it again. But in the competition of the ratings war between the two juggernauts, this is kind of the perfect time that I'm a celebrity has dropped because I personally have been finding maths very boring and i'm ready for something new and obviously our girl brit we all need to support her we all need to get behind it even if you're not watching it go and vote for her the voting opens tonight which is monday night so if you watch monday night's episode you can
Starting point is 00:10:43 start voting for the participants and we need to make britney a winner queen pretty titty speaking of uh the day that this comes out because it will be last night that you can vote for brit Well, today's a special day, Laura. Everyone together. Hoopy parade. Wait, you're not going to sing it from front to back? I don't think anyone wants to hear me sing it from back to crack. Do you want me to sing it from back to crack?
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yeah, get the whole studio in here. Happy birthday to you. No, I'm joking. Don't you hate it when people are singing happy birthday to you? There's a group of people and you're the one behind the cake and you don't know what the fuck to do with your hands or your eyes and you're like this. I'm going to be honest. I think I'm an anomaly. I kind of like it. I kind of like having happy birthday being sung to me. I don't like the attention. I just think it's such
Starting point is 00:11:33 a novelty that I don't mind it. People who say that they get so embarrassed by having happy birthday. So I'm like, yeah, go touch grass. If that is what embarrasses you, you need to do a shit on the street or something that's truly embarrassing. Like, I don't know when everyone at the restaurant joins in and you're like oh they're all looking at me i don't know what to do for me it's really i don't know what to do with my hands oh my god like this i'll do jazz hands time anyway i think that over the course of the years that i have known you we have really put an emphasis on mine and brit's birthday because it's on the same day and so it's a bit of a two for one special and i don't feel as though we've given you enough air time for your birthdays and
Starting point is 00:12:14 so i want to give you airtime for your birthday so i want everyone all about your birthday i have ordered you a birthday present i'm really sorry that i wasn't organized enough that it would be here on time for me to give it to you but by the time this goes live you might have it and i think you'll like it and i think you have a pretty good idea as to what it might be i know that it has to do with plants birthdays to me are not and when i say like i don't care about people singing happy birthday to me in a restaurant. It's not because I want people to make a big deal about me. I often forget how old I am. I sometimes have to type in my date of birth into Google to remember if I'm 38 or 37, which Google told me a half an hour ago, I'm 37 turning 38. When I was 26, I had a whole
Starting point is 00:12:58 entire year where I thought I was a different age to what I was. How hard did you party that year? i thought i was 27 and so i had my 26th birthday twice because i'd already celebrated my 26th birthday and then somebody when i was seemingly turning 27 said to me you know you're only turning 26 and i was like wow that something happened to me and i don't know what it was i have a few theories so anyway yeah look matt and i are gonna go out for dinner but apart from that nothing something too exciting is happening. We may do a lunch at our house, but that's going to be in mid April. And that is because somebody else is organizing it and I don't have to do anything, which is nice. That is the joy of the birthday celebration, right? We spoke about this last
Starting point is 00:13:42 year on my birthday. And I think I realized that I'd kind of like, I'd said that I wasn't at all a birthday person, but as it turns out, it's just because I've been really disappointed on my birthday before. So maybe I'm half a birthday person, but I actually, I believe you when you say you're not a birthday person, but I want you to know that we love you so much and we're very proud of everything you've achieved by the time you're 38. Is this what you thought life would be like as a 38 year old? I don't know in terms of like a life progression. I'm so happy with where I'm at in life. I'm so grateful for my relationship. I'm so grateful for my children. I'm so grateful for the work that I get to do for my businesses I never could have thought that my life would be
Starting point is 00:14:28 here and so then sometimes I think when you feel like you have so much to be happy for you have to downplay that because you like I understand it yeah and it's such a it's such a privilege and I know I work incredibly hard for the things that I have but at the same time like I got fucking lucky in terms of the relationship situation I know that because I was so unlucky prior to meeting Matt but maybe that also is a reason why for me now the years I'm not defined by a birthday year because I'm so grateful that I have someone in my life who makes me feel special all the time last year when we did speak about this someone wrote into us and they had a really good point about this and they said I am a birthday person because it is one of the only things that
Starting point is 00:15:08 is just about me that we celebrate as an adult you know a lot of the other things that we celebrate have to do with relationship success or what would be deemed as success in little quotation marks and so yeah i really hope that we can make you feel special on your 38th birthday guys you make me feel special all the time though i am also very grateful for everyone in the facebook community for their good recommendations of gifts to get laura because laura you are the hardest person to buy a gift don't need anything i actually struggle so much to get you a gift because you're not materialistic but I do want the propagation station usually not being materialistic is a good thing but it's really bloody hard when it comes to presence but you also don't like massages
Starting point is 00:15:49 and stuff that could be like an easy just gift so I like food and sleep I was really hopeful on Friday when I posted in the Facebook group that you had I'd seen you that day and you were busy at Tony May and I thought you had shit on for the whole day so I thought I was safe I also didn't know how to block a post from someone being able to see it I don't think you can block a post from the person who owns the Facebook page I don't think you care maybe I could have just blocked you for the day and then you couldn't have seen it but I did ask for some help about gifts in the Facebook group and you guys came through oh yeah you were good I asked for the other green-thumbed goddesses to give me their plant recommendations because I am not a green-thumbed goddess say that
Starting point is 00:16:31 three times quickly green-thumbed goddess anyway only a green-thumbed goddess could say it fast we do we do have a gift coming for you I'm really sorry I wasn't organized in time for it to get here but it is plant related and I think you're gonna love it and I really really enjoyed the enthusiasm but what I would like you all to know about me is that my obsession for houseplants runs so deep at the moment it is so out of control that I would say I own 99.9% of the things that were suggested in that thread and that's when it dawned on me that I have a real problem. I was like, I just want to come downstairs on my birthday and I want Matt to have laid out garden soil in the lounge room and just started a veggie patch with some all spectrum lights in
Starting point is 00:17:13 my lounge room. That's what I want. I want my entire table to be sprouting. Your kinks are weird. Sorry. How did we end up here again? I don't know. Can I just say that there was one brand that kept on being brought up. I feel so stupid because I've now realized that it's we the wild but for some reason when I saw that written out as the website I thought it was wet he wild what like wet and wild why is it called wet he wild wet he wild and I kept on saying it to myself and it wasn't until like literally two hours had passed that I checked back in on the suggestions and someone had written we the wild and I was like oh wow I don't belong in this I don't belong here. This is not my place. These are not my people.
Starting point is 00:18:02 You're like, it does sound fun though. Went he well. Sign me up, baby. Slap it on. We wanted to talk about the thing that everybody is talking about this weekend. Well, it's the headlines on Saturday and it made so many of us ask the question, should we feel bad? Kate Middleton, Princess Catherine, she came out with a public statement on Saturday, which would have been their Friday in the UK, saying that she had cancer and speaking about her cancer diagnosis and the fact that she was undergoing preventative chemotherapy. Now, as you guys all know, because we spoke about it on the episode prior, Kate had been missing from public affairs for the majority of this year. And there had been a statement that had
Starting point is 00:18:43 been released from the royal family saying that Kate would not be present for royal duties until Easter due to a planned surgery that was happening on her stomach. Now that did not stop the rumor mill from running absolutely fucking rife. And there were so many conspiracy theories. The conspiracy theories had gotten out of control, namely because of the Photoshop fail that we all saw happen last week, where on Mother's Day in the UK, Kate posted a photo or a photo was posted. Obviously she didn't post it of her and the kids. And it was then later said by Getty that it was an AI generated image. It wasn't real. And then all hell broke loose. Now, some of the conspiracy theories that were surrounding this and that really got out of control were things that
Starting point is 00:19:28 maybe William was having an affair. The rumored affair from 2019 was brought back to the surface and that maybe that affair had kicked off again. There were rumors around her health. There was rumors that maybe she had died and they were delaying the announcement of her death because of King Charles being currently undergoing cancer treatment as well. There were rumors of surgery there was rumors of eating disorders and bulimia and that she was having time for stomach surgery because of her bulimia have i missed anything here there were a lot of rumors there were so many we couldn't list them all possibly for anybody who saw her video statement it was very humanizing to see princess kate sit there and speak candidly and say that she's undergoing
Starting point is 00:20:09 cancer treatment and i think for anybody who watched that it was such an interesting way that she set it up because the whole setup was thanking people for their kindness and their grace. But anyone who's been across the news cycle for the last couple of weeks knows that there has been zero kindness, zero grace. It has been unrelenting, the memes and the mockery of what it is that she, all the reasons why the fact that she's been missing. I think the really big question here is, is how much privacy should be awarded to a family that not only lives off the public dollar, but also whose primary role is public facing. Like that's the big question is how much how much should we be sorry for the fact that there was speculation and the conspiracy
Starting point is 00:20:49 theories that followed around Kate's disappearance when so much of what the royal family gains is because they are public facing I think there are two parts to this I have not made it a secret that I'm not a fan of the royal family and I think it's important to acknowledge bias when we have these conversations and this scenario has made me more solid in that opinion and I know that there are people who are really going to disagree with me and I'm okay with that and I'm also okay that you have different opinions. There are two questions here and one is do you think that they are entitled to complete privacy and the other is should we feel guilty about the fact that we added to the speculation or you know bought into the conspiracy theories or had fun
Starting point is 00:21:30 with it that we enjoyed the gossip of it. The first on the privacy element for anyone who lives in the public space I think there's this there's this balancing act of the fact that you are paid by the people and therefore you should have transparency with them but there is an element of well everyone deserves to be able to keep things private if it's something that's very sensitive and if it's something that they are working through at the time I think for a normal person undergoing something like a cancer diagnosis I've actually had this happen in my family and I'm not going to give too many details but someone in my immediate family took three months to tell us that they had received a cancer diagnosis and at the time that was a really
Starting point is 00:22:14 shocking thing for us to hear. It put a lot of questions about why didn't you tell us what was going on and those things did end up being answered and I don't necessarily agree with the answers but I had to respect the fact that that's what they wanted to do and a cancer diagnosis is such an individual thing even though it affects so many people how everyone processes that information is going to be really specific to the person and so I normally think that people undergoing something like that are entitled to privacy but when it becomes a royal member of you know this institution that is the monarchy I question whether they traded that in to receive the role that they have the main part of their job I would argue is being public facing that's kind of what they do now they
Starting point is 00:22:58 don't have as much to do with you know ruling Great Britain as what they used to so their main job is to kind of bring awareness to certain causes that need them and attend public events and bring eyes to things that need eyes on them and I don't think that they are entitled to the same level of privacy as what other people are I think that they made that deal with the devil I guess the question though is is not that they're not entitled to the same level of privacy they don't they don't receive anywhere near the same level of privacy that a normal person would receive that's not even a comparable thing but are they entitled to any privacy especially when it is around something that is so sensitive like a cancer diagnosis my belief is yes I think
Starting point is 00:23:37 everybody is entitled no matter how much you've traded with the devil we are all entitled to some sense of privacy or some sense around timelines of when you are able to talk about the things that's going on in your life and I guess the question around Kate Middleton is we're expecting not only that she would give us transparency but that she would be at a state of mind to be able to process what's happening to herself to be able to also have those conversations with her children and then navigate the public space I think the place where there's like a lack of empathy and a lack of sympathy for that is that the royal family has the most supposedly incredible PR team around them the most incredible advisors that help to navigate these very very sensitive
Starting point is 00:24:17 of situations so that when you, and when I say when you, when Kate Middleton is in a situation where she is experiencing something that is beyond maybe her comprehension or her ability to be able to reconcile how she feels about it, they're supposed to help guide her within a public space and protect her. And I think we can all agree that that system doesn't work and that that system did not serve to protect her in that instance. You know, the Photoshop fail, the lack of conversation the going underground all of those things only create groundswell and because of social media now and the way in which things can become viral and the way in which conspiracy theories can spread like absolute wildfire I think that that's where the real
Starting point is 00:24:59 problem stems from it's almost like not understanding or not realizing the impact it was going to have or maybe they did realize the impact that it was going to have but they didn't care enough to stop Kate Middleton from being like the sacrificial lamb in that situation but I guess ultimately for me when I watched that announcement I felt sad for her I felt genuinely sad that there is a real woman at the bottom of all of this the questioning as to whether we are entitled to or not entitled to the conspiracy theories to me it felt incredibly sad that there is a real person who has to sit there and explain what's going on in their body and face up to a camera in order to be believed and even in doing that they still were people who were like this
Starting point is 00:25:46 looks like AI to me you know this has the AI fuzz with some of the comments below the actual video the announcement video but for all the conversations we have around body autonomy around you know having the right to one's own sense of self, that is undermined in the case when it's someone of such a huge celebrity presence, i.e. Kate Middleton. And when we talk about this idea, Keish, what you said, the trading of your privacy for all the benefits of being public facing, there is that question of, okay, well, where is the line? And now I'm not saying that media should be deeply sorry, because I think it's very important to draw a line between what it was that they're poking fun at. The media was not poking fun at Kate Middleton having cancer. They were
Starting point is 00:26:29 poking fun at the disappearance and the absolute absurdity of the way in which it was being handled. And that's why it got out of control. So I think that, you know, the way that it's now flipped in media landscape where everyone's like, we should feel ashamed of ourselves. How dare we jump on the bandwagon of memes? It's almost like that's the product that's created by the disappearance. that's the product that was being fueled I should also make it clear that I feel as though I may have sounded like a bit of a dick when I said that Kate didn't deserve privacy I do think that she deserves privacy I'm talking more about the institution of the royal family as a whole and it's very interesting to me that King Charles is currently going through cancer treatment
Starting point is 00:27:11 himself but we're not talking about that we're all talking about where the fuck is Kate it makes me raise my eyebrows even more the phrasing of abdominal surgery what part of the planned abdominal surgery is very different to so the way in which it was communicated in january planned abdominal surgery verse major abdominal surgery there's doesn't sound like there's a lot of difference but the inference of that is a lot of difference it left people wild to make up their own imagination around what was happening kate is worthy of privacy but in order for you to obtain that privacy from the public you have to give them enough clarification so that adults in the room can go okay there's something going on and right now she needs the space to process that and I
Starting point is 00:27:53 don't think that we awarded her that but I don't think it's our fault and that's why I don't think that we should feel guilty because the institution that is the monarchy have worked so hand in hand with the media for generations they have traded stories they have the tick of approval of what goes out about them which pictures are actually posted and that has existed for so long but what has changed is that we now critique that I almost feel as though there's a bit of gaslighting going on here with them saying that you should feel bad about doing this because we've been conditioned to assume that what they're telling us may not necessarily be the truth but the next thing that I've been thinking about is the amount of people that are coming out saying I feel really bad about
Starting point is 00:28:35 the fact I kind of joked about this and I bought into the conspiracies and I had a bit of fun with it. You know, I toyed around with what might actually be going on. Blake Lively even came out and posted something on Instagram story where she was like, I feel like an idiot and I'm really sorry. You know, and there have been many celebrities and many normal people that have also kind of said, I feel a bit bad for participating. Everyone's now in panic stations being like, oh, we bad people because we subscribe to this conspiracy theory, which so many of us did. Right. And we did. We spoke about it on Tuesday's episode. You know, we had a laugh about it. We had a laugh about the absurdity of the Photoshop fail as most people did. And in most
Starting point is 00:29:12 friendship groups, people were talking about, well, what do you think has happened? There is something incredibly humbling that happens when the truth is as simple as I am very, very sick and I need my privacy. And when you hear that being spoken by a woman that is being completely humanized, the royalness was stripped bare. Even the way in which it was filmed, it was very understated. It was a, and I don't want to use the word frail because she's not frail, but she's a very slight in frame, just a woman sitting there speaking to camera with nobody else around her. Her husband's not there. It was very much just her and the people saying, this is what I'm going through. And I guess that that is why now there's been this massive backflip because it was a plead
Starting point is 00:29:55 for humanity almost is how it came across. And I question whether, you know, Kate's gotten to the point where she has made this video? Was that because she felt that the collective public harassment was so huge that it was the only way that she could kind of get everyone to fuck off by saying, guys, I'm actually going through cancer. Leave me alone and give me some space. Was it because of the public harassment or was it actually because of the multitude of failures by the PR team that worked for the royals? And I think that had the royal family not put us in a positioned so many times in the past where they'd breadcrumbed us with information and we were left to put the rest of the pieces together ourselves. Had that not have occurred so many times I don't
Starting point is 00:30:37 think that people would have run as rampant with these conspiracies. You know I just feel as though the people who are feeling guilty for this are feeling that way because they're like oh my gosh we've pushed her into a corner where she has felt the need to disclose something that she thought was private and that she didn't want to tell us she didn't want to tell us that she was going through cancer that's obvious otherwise she would have told us that and they're feeling guilty because they feel as though they contributed to forcing her into that corner and I personally don't think it's the public harassment that did that I think it's the failure of the team that are supposed to protect her in the royal family so many times over it's not one thing it's the
Starting point is 00:31:18 collection of these things that I think pushed her into this corner and I think they are more responsible. I think ultimately it's not how badly it was handled but it's how badly she was the one who was left out to dry during a cancer diagnosis, during a chemotherapy treatment. There was no support, there was no protection of her. It was just one instance after another that she became the sacrificial lamb in that whole situation. On one hand the machine serves them so well and it is a needed product which is a huge revenue raiser. It is imperative to them that we have a keen interest in the monarchy it is what keeps that wheel constantly in motion and I guess the dark side of that is you don't get to choose when you hop off the bus even if you should even if you
Starting point is 00:32:03 should be able to say I am entitled to privacy now which you are unfortunately the wheels of that bus don't stop moving just because now it is the time to claim privacy and on a very very very small scale. This happened with Britt when she was going through the breakup with Jordan. Now, I am not drawing comparisons between Kate Middleton and Brittany Hockley. Please let that be known before someone jumps in our reviews and goes, oh my God, I can't believe. But what I'm saying is you guys might remember Britt was going through a breakup with Jordan. And at the time the media was ferociously reporting around their breakup. And at the time they weren't yet broken up. They were in the phases of a complicated situation of her not knowing what was going on of her hoping
Starting point is 00:32:48 that they were going to be able to resurrect the relationship and there were some gossip magazines and podcasts who were very much reporting that their relationship was over and then when she finally came out and said that we'd broken up it was like a aha we got you moment and the thing that was so hard to I actually feel further than that I feel like people literally then reported see i told you months ago yeah like like we had the scoop yes and the problem with that is is like and we spoke about it you know brit feels very passionately around the fact that it doesn't matter what scale of celebrity you are there are always things in life where you're entitled to privacy until the point that you're ready to share that part of your story because just like when
Starting point is 00:33:30 great things happen i.e when i was pregnant with marley i didn't tell everyone that i was pregnant the day that i pissed on that fucking pregnancy test you know i didn't but it's true though right like we choose the moments to share the happy stuff and we also should be able to choose the moments to share the bad stuff and the argument during that whole situation was people saying well we're invested in your relationship so we have a right to know and I think the bigger part here is the faux concern and that's the same thing for Princess Kate it's this faux concern about her well-being where is she what have you done with her we care about her the reality is we don't really care about these people, not deeply, not on a sense that we feel like we are
Starting point is 00:34:09 friends with them. We're concerned with the gossip. We're concerned with like the water cooler chat around their lives, but at the bottom of it, they're real people. And I do question how difficult it must be, even though you've subscribed to it, even though you're bought in, and even though you had a choice to join that royal family, how hard it must be as a mother and as an individual in times of great family distress and trauma to navigate the public side of it and to be able to satiate the unsatiable needs of the public audience whilst also protecting your three children who didn't choose they just grew up in it all right well it is time for accidentally unfiltered guys your embarrassing stories they're my favorite bit please send them in you need to
Starting point is 00:34:55 send them in if you have a humiliating story that thing that thing that happened to you that you have been saying you're never going to speak about you just want it to go and stick your head in the sand and just die tell us and we'll share it and we can all laugh about it because when you claim and reclaim that thing that makes you embarrassed you can no longer be embarrassed by it okay this one reads i got a woot band a few weeks ago what's a woot band it's that fitness band that measures everything it measures your sleep it measures your uh like a garment it's kind of more than that it there's a word strain strain it measures and it tells you like what percentage you need to recover it's a strain like what strain you've put on your body it frightens me i do not
Starting point is 00:35:38 want to know why would i want to know how close i am to death because data can be good for some people no tracking it can be good that to me sounds anxiety riddling i really want one matt has matt has a garment and when he's asleep every so often the light will just turn on because something will have happened and then I get blinded by the light in the middle of the night and he's just fucking happily sleeping getting his rems and there I am getting like blasted this one doesn't have a screen so at least you'd be more approving of a whoop how do you what do you do you go online and check it yeah I think it's like a to your phone to the app anyway it is important to the story I got a whoop band a few weeks ago and in an effort to encourage each other
Starting point is 00:36:19 my whole workplace decided to add each other on the app I've only worked at this company for a few months and I'm close with some people but not so close with others. Our whoop data has become a real topic of chat in the office, something that we are all bonding over. Fast forward to last Saturday night when I'd been to the gym in the morning and I'd gone out for some drinks with some friends in the evening. I ended up hooking up with a hot guy that night and we were going at it for hours and hours. We barely had any sleep. Fast forward to Monday morning when the whole group of us were in the office and we were catching up about our weekends when my cfo turns to me and said interesting time to be doing yoga for 86 minutes i'd forgotten that my whoop bend had been
Starting point is 00:37:01 on my wrist and it just assumes the type of activity that you're doing based off of previous data now my entire office knows that particular session had me at 60 to 70 percent of my max heart right oh she could have put in more effort then couldn't she 86 minutes why does she have it linked for everyone to see i don't understand because you can do that with apple and garmin like you share it it's meant to encourage because people are competitive why do people care how much sleep you're getting it's a competition mate of who's getting the most recovery we're all fighting it out for who's the most ultimate human i hate this i hate this that's because you wouldn't do well at it no i can tell you it would not be clocking up 86 minutes of yoga for me no it's
Starting point is 00:37:49 a good seven minute yoga session you have that was they'll look at mine it'll just look like i'm in sleep just laying there in missionary they're like laura slept that had a slightly elevated heart rate for seven minutes having a good dream all right okay guys if you have an excellent unfilled story send them on into the dms at life uncut podcast and it is time for suck sweet quiche pops what is your suck my suck is so incredibly niche and I haven't actually checked whether it's okay I share this story but the other day I was scrolling through Instagram and my boyfriend was sitting next to me and at one point he kind of like really concerningly went why are you looking at that and I was like what and he's like why are you looking at that and it was just
Starting point is 00:38:30 a shot like a sponsored ad on Instagram and it was for like a brand of clothing or something and I was like why what do you mean like huh and he goes show me and I showed him and he was like oh and he kind of acted a little bit weird and after a while I was like why are you so concerned about what I'm looking at on Instagram was a sponsored ad like it's so strange turns out the model in it was his ex-girlfriend and now now because I engaged with that fucking oh my god how have we gotten to this part of the episode and you're only telling me this so hot do you remember when i no wait wait do you remember when i told you about how i bought the invisible zinc invisible zinc and i brought it home and matt was like what like same thing like kind of weird
Starting point is 00:39:22 and the girl the model he dated before me like some like super famous model and i would just bought it because i was like i was just trying to keep sun safe you're just trying to protect yourself from the damaging effects of the sun and now your relationship is damaged i'm now being reminded as well because the product's there in my bathroom and there's her beautiful face her beautiful non-sun damaged face that i want to look like because i bought the product that she looked good she looks great well now it seems as though this girl and i'm so sorry if she listened to the podcast how embarrassing for you you're a fucking beautiful human being and which i hate obviously naturally good for you but you didn't sell the clothes bad for me she pops up all the time now
Starting point is 00:40:04 on my sponsored ads I've actually screenshot six of them six separate do you send them do you send them to um Toblerone or do you just screenshot them for your own sort of like you know torture I sent them to Brit you can send them to me now all right and what is your sweet for the week my sweet for the week is very wholesome speaking of my boyfriend this is really insular this week he's a really good cook and often that kind of pisses me off because he's a better cook than I but every now and then I get to enjoy the fruits of the labor and the other night he made dinner for his friends and I and on my job we made a tiramisu from scratch and my job was to whip the cream I don't have a what's the cooking appliance that you need to like pot no a kitchen
Starting point is 00:40:45 master or something who has something that whips cream I had to do it by hand I did it with my arm and now I think about how our grandparents used to survive I don't need to think about it I did do Keisha's out there washing her clothes on a stone by the river so he made this beautiful dinner but I contributed to a really really delicious tiramisu and I'm enjoying the things at the moment that are like I'm really trying to seek joy out of the process of things and I felt so fucking accomplished that I did not use one electronic appliance other than the oh no wait we'd use the fridge what did you heat it with a just a campfire out the back tiramisu you just like set in the fridge right got you so you used a fridge yeah I used a fridge but other than that
Starting point is 00:41:29 all elbow grease set it in front of the air conditioner oh that's also an appliance no I don't have an air conditioner with that but anyway I had a really really beautiful dinner and it was kind of just that reminder that you know sometimes doing things the old school way it can make you feel can make you feel the little dopamine surge that I've been seeking there's nothing better than like when you put something together or you do something on your own and you're like I'm capable like I can make a bunk bed I felt so accomplished all I did was whipped cream I'm proud of you all right my suck for the week I'm not going to get into a rant because I have ranted about it so many times to Keisha this is this is worthwhile of a rant no he's a dick it's not I
Starting point is 00:42:06 hate him I hate him I hate him okay so I got a fine on the weekend guys and I'm not proud of it but I got a fine I had Buster off leash about we were like four houses down from my house I live on a hill and Buster being nine years old and having three legs he struggles these days especially when it's hot man he's he is not the young Spratly boy that he used to be so we were coming up our hill heading towards our house and I'd taken him off leash and a fucking ranger he like pulls up his car he gets out and he goes I know you and he was you know what the whole interaction was shit it was just a terrible terrible interaction and part of me was like Like I know the rules and this is not me seeking any sort
Starting point is 00:42:47 of like special treatment, but I'm like, man, we're four houses from our house and he is an old dog with three legs who cannot get up the hill. Like have some empathy for the poor thing. Sorry. Come on. Disabled dogs do deserve special treatment. I was like he's disabled.
Starting point is 00:43:01 He's doing his best. I'm just trying to provide a good quality of life for the poor guy, okay? But also I kind of was like everybody has to do a job and this is not me shitting on rangers who 99.9% of the time do an exceptional job and their services are very very required to keep things you know what's the word just is it cordial cordially no i just disagree with you whatever but this incident i thought was so unreasonable it was so unreasonable and it was so following
Starting point is 00:43:31 rules for the sake of following rules anyway that was my situation is it relatable no is somebody going to be like bro you did the wrong thing and you deserve a fine absolutely was it a fucking suck for my week yes so that is my suck my sweet for the week however is that yesterday we had such a good day with the girls there was like all these sweet activations down at Bondi Beach we took the kids they got to do like plaster funhouse shit for free it was just a it was a free activation they went and destroyed some sandcastles that were on the beach and they had the most amazing time and every so often when you have nothing on your plate and you are able to just like clock in with your kids and they go and do really sweet things that you can tell really
Starting point is 00:44:10 fills their cup i was like i'm loving this and i had a really nice time and then it ended with matt going and watching idol and us sitting on the couch watching brit on tv and it was a fucking good sunday raging about the dog ranger i did rage i've raged a bit but i told you you should send an email i did send an email anyway guys that is it from us go and watch brit on i'm a celebrity please vote it is going to be like honestly it is up to us to keep her in the competition and if she ends up being crowned queen of the jungle it's because we did it we made it happen i mean actually though because you've taken over her instagram account which is a lot of trust to put in a friend i don't know how i'd feel about giving someone the logins to my social media oh
Starting point is 00:44:50 no we'll talk about that on thursday i've found some stuff you know the drill tell your mom tell your dad tell your dog tell your friends and share the love because we love love Thank you.

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