Life Uncut - The Best Of The Pick Up - To have children, or not...

Episode Date: October 27, 2024

It's our weekly round up! The best of the week from our National radio show THE PICKUP. On the show:  An honest conversation around the choice to have children  Laurs Law - Getting to the bottom of the fight between Britt and Mitch Unbelievable coincidences  How to build resilience in kids Bec Judd and her 8 year olds apple watch You can watch us on Youtube Find us on Instagram Join us on tiktokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode is recorded on Gadigal land of the Aurora Nation. Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. I'm Britt. I'm Mitch. Hi Britt. I knew that would throw you in. I was like, I always say Brittany. You always say Brittany. Yeah.

And now she's here. I'm just trying to work out if I want to change my identity. Like, am I a Britt or am I a Brittany? Well, you're a Britt to me. You're a Britt to me as well. Yeah, right. I always say Brit, but then when we do things like this, I'm like, hey, guys, it's Brittany. I like that you're having this existential crisis now,

six years into podcasting. Existential? Existential. I think you said extension. I like that you're having this extension crisis now. I like that you've got the extension cord here with you. We get it. You're renovating our house.

I am. We need to have this extension cord. Sorry, Shantamu. Sorry. And also, the snake is back, guys. Sorry, cordon bleu. I mean, Shantamu. The two-meter python that we thought we got rid of is back.

Laura, why are you so shocked? It's literally been his home for 10 years. It's going to continue to come back. Because we're trying to do, like, the kind environmental thing and just, like, move it on, put it in the bush, like move it down the road. And the thing keeps coming back. It travelled a kilometre.

A kilometre. It's like a red dog. Like, you know, that dog that just travelled on and on and on. Literally. It's like that woman who walked across the country with a pack of camels. Similarities are endless. We don't need to keep giving it similarities.

I hate you guys. I'm joking. We love you. On the show this week, we had a fight. Britt lied and embellished, as she often does, and it got me really riled up, so we had to take it to law, the law of Laura. Laura Byrne ruled.

The court of Laura. You always throw me under the bus. Laura, why don't you explain the fight because we'll start again. I'm sorry, Laura wasn't there. Why would Laura explain the fight? Well, she's read the facts and she's seen the footage. I have read the facts, I have seen the footage, and you guys both brought to me your sides of the argument

and I got to be the judge of the case. I'm not going to go into details because that's literally what we did on the show. So if you want to hear it, you've got to keep listening. Hey, how's that for a hook? Also, I was talking about something that happened to us on the weekend when we were away with the kids and it's not that Marley got picked on necessarily. I mean, I think I kind of mentioned it.

We were talking about it earlier on the podcast on Tuesday around how do you build resilience in kids? And we spoke about it on the show as well. And we had a child specialist come on board and really talk about what it means to build resilience in children. So if you heard that chat on Tuesday, it's a little bit of a repeat, but there's more to it on the radio show. You know what?

Actually, I learned stuff in that. because I'm not a parent, but some of the things that it was Michelle Mitchell, she's like a kid specialist, it was interesting. I found it really eye-opening. I didn't learn a lot, and I'm only saying that because it was very satisfying how much her advice echoed my own personal advice that I had given Laura privately. So I was pretty satisfied with myself.

She did not back up the argument that you made that children not being parented causes severe... Allergies. Yeah, all that and so much more coming up on the show. I want to talk about, Mitch and Laura, something that is very personal to me and something that is very hard for me to articulate. I always have trouble trying to find the right words and the right ideas to get across when it surrounds fertility and having children. I'm 37 years old and I have been on quite the fertility journey with freezing eggs, trying to freeze embryos and

been unsuccessful trying to freeze embryos again and getting just a few, which, you know, is not ideal, but it's better than none. And I constantly have this battle in my head of do I want kids or not? Is that a decision I really want to make? Can I have kids or not? You know, do I want to risk trying and falling pregnant and having one and then it's not what I wanted? Do I not want them because I don't think I can have them. I can't work out which came first, the chicken or the egg, when it comes to being able to have kids or wanting them. And I think I've mixed those up a lot in my head. I saw some statistics that have come out from the Australian Bureau of Statistics that have revealed that I definitely am not alone in this feeling. So we are now at an all-time

fertility low. So we are now averaging 1.5 babies per woman, whereas we used to average 3.5. five babies. This is Australian statistics? Australian statistics. 2024 current. This is current. Yeah. So what we're seeing is this, I mean, they obviously went out and asked people why, but one of the biggest reasons is the financial dedication that you need to make to have a child. The cost of living is at an all time high, but inflation is not going along with that. People are not able to afford to have a child anymore. Some people are choosing more selfishly because they want to keep traveling or they don't want to give up what they see is the privileged life that they live. But we're seeing people just physically say,

I really would love to have a child, but my fertility is not great. I can't afford IVF or I cannot afford daycare, schooling fees, a roof over my head. Absolutely. And I mean, I have friends, I have two kids myself, but I have so many friends who have children and they have decided not to have any more. And it's not because they don't want to have a bigger family or an extended family. It's because they physically can't afford it. I mean, daycare fees alone, if you don't get subsidies from the government or, you know, you're on a dual income household. For one child, when my daughter goes to school, it's $185 a day per child. A day per child. That's nearly $400 for two kids. Yeah, it's crazy. And the thing is,

is that there are so many mums out there who would love to go back to their careers, who would love to go back to work even if that's part-time but they're not able to go back to work because the it's it's cheaper to be a stay-at-home mum than it is to put your kids into daycare and like so the system is broken the system doesn't support mums and it doesn't support having these bigger families and i think so many people feel that pressure so brit for you at the moment where it is because we've hung out outside of the show and we are friends and it consumes a lot of your thinking you talk we talk about it personally a lot you having kids and your fertility journey yeah and like I um like even all last night I was in tears all night just because it's all I think

about and every time I go to voice it out loud I get up to that because I don't know if I can have children and then I don't know if I do have them how I can physically do it and I and I know I'm not alone in that feeling and we do have a biological clock and we do have pressures and i hate that women have to feel this way and and like i said i know i'm not alone in it and i i can't i cannot work it out in my head like i just like i said before the chicken or the egg i can't work out if i'm questioning it because i don't think i can have them like like i said before i tried to freeze some embryos you know and we got zero when then i tried to freeze one and i got one that had a disability and wasn't viable with life um it's a real challenge and i

and I just am having a hard time working it out in my head what I want and what's the right thing and do I go down that route. It's going to change my whole life. And also now women have the opportunity to have a career and a career is very important to me. We never used to have that option. So I know there's a lot of women out there now that are like, okay, great. Now I do get the choice to go and chase something else

that traditionally only men could chase. And then do they have to make that sacrifice of a family to do so? I think we open the lines because you bring up a very interesting point of view. And you too, Laura, like the finances involved. And then you say the economy and the world and the state of the world. And, you know, is it ethical to bring kids into this world? If you're just joining us, we're talking about something that's very personal to me. That's fertility.

Mitch and Laura, you know what goes on inside of my head, you lucky things. But we talk about this privately all the time. But I also think it's important to talk about it publicly too because I know I'm not alone. But I have this constant battle. I'm 37. This constant battle of can I have children? Do I want children? Do I want to bring children into this world right now with the current financial state? The wars that are going on all over the world, you know, is this climate change? Is it a world I want to bring my kids into if I am lucky enough to even be able to have a child? And it's sort of reared its ugly head in my head again because the Australian Bureau of Statistics

has just come out and reported that in Australia we are at an all-time fertility low. That's for a multitude of reasons, but a big one is people just financially not being able to do it anymore. There are plenty of people out there that really want kids or want more. The choice to not have them isn't selfish. Yeah, listen, we're taking your calls. Gemma's joined us. Gemma, what's stopping you from having kids today? Hi, guys. Probably the main one is, yeah, it's just cost of living really sucks and I've got a one-year-old he's on sorry I've got one baby he's almost three and like maybe it sounds selfish but I really want to travel with him and I want you know make cool memories in his childhood and I just I don't think it's possible with more kids

yeah the sacrifices are you guys already running tight with one kid financially yeah yeah and like we both work like we've got good jobs and stuff like it and we live out in the burbs like we've made all those kind of harsh you know decisions to make it be more affordable but it's still not that affordable it's just crazy like it's yeah yeah financials a big one francis what is it for you why have you not decided to have kids or not have more kids yeah so my husband and i have decided not to have kids i'm 37 i will acknowledge i'm very privileged to have this choice in the first place but i will be honest i love sleep i love traveling multiple times a year i love having more money and i love the peace and quiet yeah i mean all very valid points you're presenting

Definitely things you will sacrifice. Last call, Rachel. Hey, are you there? Why have you stopped having kids? I haven't stopped having kids. I just haven't started. I'm in my early 30s. I'm single and just, like, the thought of wanting, like,

I could never be a single mum. I couldn't afford to raise a kid by myself. I couldn't even afford to go through the IVF with a sperm donor. It's just not an option for me until I find someone, really. Do you want to have children and this is just something that you think it's just not feasible or is it kind of something you're unsure about in general? It's like, honestly, day to day changes. As my friends have kids, I'm just like, oh, maybe that's a lot. But I think I watch it around me. I love their kids, but it is a lot.

But I think like in the future, like in a couple of years or a few more years, whatever it may be, like I'd love to have kids and love that option. But I just don't see that as an option while I'm single. Yeah, see, I feel so sorry. Not sorry, it's not the right word. Like my heart really goes out to people who want it but don't feel as though they can. Because it's very different if you've made the decision

that you don't want kids. And I totally get that. Like everyone can make their own decisions. And I think that's the thing that's so amazing now as women is we have choice. But for people who have made the decision purely because they feel as though they don't have any other choice, that for me is really heartbreaking.

That sucks. Regardless, Britt, whatever decision you make, it's your choice. We'll back you either way. I'll babysit for you either way. we will look after you and I will be your father when Ben's away. That's the point I'm getting to is that I will rear your child. Mitch also wants kids. You don't need to ask.

I also want eggs. Do you want me to carry your child? Well, I'm a gay man. I need eggs and that is expensive. So perhaps there's an ulterior motive here. I do have some frozen so you can, I was going to say you can borrow them, but it doesn't really work like that. I think you won't be getting that back.

Look, there has been some division that's happened here at The Pickup. On the weekend, Mitch apparently stole something from Brittany's house. Can I speak? I didn't. No, you can speak. Sure. You're annoying me, though. You did.

All right, well, look, this has been something that's flowed over the last couple of days, and I think it's only fair that we should take this to the court of Laura. Now, the way that this is going to work, and in order to keep the peace and the unity of the pick-up, Brittany, you will plead your case around the facts of what you think happened on the night of said alleged crime. And then, Mitch, you can say whatever you want to afterwards.

Gee, thanks, Laura. We're all biased in this court. Team Trump over there. Excuse me. I'm fighting the good fight. All right, Brittany, off you go. What happened? On the weekend, I invited Mitch over and his boyfriend Stephen

to my house for dinner. Mitch continued to fill my glass with wine until I was extremely tipsy, tipsy enough that I started to crump. Irrelevant piece of information, but I need you to understand how intoxicated I was. She did. Mitch has housed at my house previously. Unpaid.

Paid. So he knew that I have a stash of makeup and skincare. It's what I do. I like to buy in bulk, saves me money and I never run out. So after I was pretty intoxicated, Mitch asked me, can I take some skincare? And I was like, you know what? I'm feeling good. Yes, you can.

So we went to the cupboard and I said, pick what you want because that's the kind of loving, generous person I am. I even let your boyfriend, Stephen, pick something. They picked it and then I turned my back for one second as I was putting it back. And as I turned around, I saw something glistening under Mitch's armpit. Mitch? I said, what's that, Mitch? He said, what's what?

And I said, lift your arm up. He said, no. And I said, I can see and hear the plastic crumbling. It was like this. Your Honour, there's no props involved. Silence. Silence on the court. I pull out his arm and my expensive skincare drops from under his arm.

He tried to steal my skincare and put it in his jacket under his armpit. All right, look. I mean, okay, I get the overview of what's happened here, Mitch. You shoved some skincare up in your armpits. Allegedly. Please use correct terminology. Okay, all right, sorry, sorry. Allegedly, allegedly.

We've got the facts. You know, please, Mitch, it's your time. Facts. To oppose. Sure. I enter what I thought was a tree of life. It was Brittany Hockley's house. It stunk of incense, first of all.

There is an olive tree. There's a giant olive tree in the middle. Dog hair everywhere. I thought this is a heroin den. But no, it's Brittany Hockley's house. Once a month. Not enough. I enter the house.

I take my shoes off. One of those households. Can we please see the story? I was sober, so I just want to let you know I didn't have one drink. So my clarity is above my opponent's. Objection. No objections. So you're taking advantage.

Okay, continue. Okay, careful. Brittany then goes, give me another drink. I pour her another drink. Half a shot because I thought she's gone too far. Then we're kind of laughing and this is after the crumping. I go to Brittany, hey, where's that bag of skincare that you've got? Like I know it exists.

Like can we rummage through it? Can we have some fun, right? Like it's old school Tupperware party. Girlfriend's looking at product. She goes, come with me. You boys have been good. So we then walk around the corner. She did.

We then walk around the corner and as she's taking my beloved Stephen, I duck into her spare bathroom and I present to you evidence. I've just gone into Britt's spare bathroom because I need the record to show she has just offered me to take some of her skincare, me and my boyfriend Stephen, and I just know I've got a gut feeling that she's going to fling this. Mitch stole from my house. Mitch broke in and did my house and stole my skincare.

So this is me at, what time is it? Okay, 8.37pm and I am letting you know that Brit said I could take whatever I wanted. Finish memo, please. Laura, sorry, judge, I burn. I present to you images that I had my boyfriend, Stephen, take. Mitch, this does nothing except to show that there was product under your armpit at all. What's under my arm? There's nothing under my arm, is there?

Okay, welcome back to the Court of Laura. Mitch, I'm really sorry. But there is nothing that you have provided me that gives inconclusive evidence that you were not trying to steal from Brittany Hockley. You thief. And I wouldn't put it past you. As much as I love you,

I wouldn't leave you alone with my skincare products in the bathroom. Because he's tight. I paid for dinner. I paid for your dinner. This is disgusting. Brittany, I'm awarding you. Mitch, please give back the skincare product that you stole. It's on my eyes.

I'm using it actively. It was a very expensive product. Give me your eye. Come and scrape it off, mate. All right, sure. Go to the ads. Press the button and go to the song. Whatever's next.

You guys do it. I'm out of the show. Rest in peace, Mitch Chirik. Real natural chemistry. Ladies, there's a story that I need to tell you about. It's beautiful. It really will warm your soul. You know, everyone finds their love on dating apps these days.

Britt, you found Ben, your fiancé, on a dating app. I did, yeah. I'm getting married from that dating app. Yeah. I found mine on a TV show. Does that count? Yes. Very unrelatable.

Yeah, not relatable, but yes, it does count. This is a beautiful story. This couple from Minnesota in the U.S., they met, right, and they're married. What they've realized is they are the perfect couple for each other. Like divine intervention has made these two get together. They've both been married previously, separated, then they found each other on a dating app. What they realized was not only were they a perfect match,

they were also born in the exact same hospital at the exact same day on the exact same year. To the same mum? No, they're not siblings. I thought there were going to be a lot of coincidences. It is Minnesota, but I don't think they're related, no. So get this. They even went to the same kindergarten as each other.

Yeah, her mum was looking at old footage when they were kids and went, wait, is that your husband in the background? And it was him sitting behind her eating an apple. Did they remember each other from kindergarten or it was like when they met each other again, they're like, oh, my God, look at all these coincidences from the past. Well, no, they had no idea because they had failed marriages beforehand that didn't work and they have just said that they believe

they're each other's soulmates from the day they were born, the moment they were born. They got married and guess who officiated the wedding? Teacher. Their kindergarten teacher. Oh, I love, do you know what, they call this a meet-cute. You know what a meet-cute is, right? It's like the way in which, the story of which you met your partner,

or some might say soulmate. And I know I met Matt through The Bachelor, so that in itself is kind of a bit of a meet-cute, my husband Matt. But we, I feel really nervous saying this story because I don't want people to run away and think that we knew each other before the show itself. You were married before the show, weren't you? Well, no, because there was lots of articles that came out

back when The Bachelor was on saying that Matt and I knew each other before the show, which wasn't the case. But the reason why that story came about was because, so maybe about four months before we were ever on the show, I went to Bondi Icebergs this one day and I was in the sauna and I looked up and there was this incredibly handsome man sitting there and he was looking at me and we had this moment where it was like back and forth, back and forth. He didn't say a single thing to me, but I just had this real sort of moment of like, oh my God, he's so beautiful and why is he looking at me?

when I left that day from the sauna I kept wondering why he hadn't come and said hello and I thought about it for quite a bit of time afterwards I was like wow you wouldn't talk to me no because he was so yeah no I wasn't that on myself he was just so obviously engaged and looking at me and it went over such a long period of time but I was like oh maybe I was in my own head about it anyway we went on our first single date on The Bachelor and this never got shown on the show but I said to him look this is either going to make me sound completely insane or and I didn't get the words out. He turned around and he said, oh, you're the girl from the sauna.

He said, I recognised you the minute you were walking down the red carpet. It was all the sweat. Yeah, I was very sweaty. You were dripping, you were nervous. It was a really nice meet cute. I think it was in that moment where I was like, oh, maybe this is meant to be. And here we are, you know, seven years later with two kids. That is so cute.

I have a pretty big coincidence for how I met my fiancé. Yeah. Well, we both decided coincidentally at the same time that we wanted to have a one night stand. What are the odds? I don't know if that's what we're after. Is that not what we're after? I don't think so.

What a beautiful romantic story about how you guys are soulmates. I can't wait for you to tell your children one day. I know, right? Imogen's called. Hey, Imogen, what's your crazy coincidence? I was seeing this guy a couple of days, met him on Tinder. It was, you know, going well, and then he absolutely just goes to me. And then we were, me and my housemates, we were,

someone left and we were looking for a new housemate. We popped it up on, like, Facebook or something, somewhere. anyway um he ended up turning up not knowing it was my house and he like turned up for an interview the guy that ghosted you yeah yeah what did he say did he move in oh yeah no I can't can't say we let that one move in oh that is so good I want to know what he said when you actually when he got there at the door was it his facial expressions or did he say anything he just sort of like completely blanked me and then like just continued on with the ghosting and I just I just kind of completely blanked me and spoke to my other housemate.

And I was like – Did you get with him one more time? Ew. No. All right. I'm sorry. God forbid. Thanks for calling me, Jen.

There you go. See? Well, I mean, that one wasn't a nice one. Neither was Britt's, to be honest. You know what? I've got to keep – Excuse me. Mine ended in a husband and a great night.

So yesterday on the show, I was talking about how the other day, Marley, she's my oldest, she's five years old, we were at the pool and she'd made some new friends because she's a very social little thing and she was off there playing with these kids and then we saw them and we thought that they were all getting along fine but then I heard the oldest girl turn around and say does anyone even like this kid should we just run away from her and it was so as a parent it was so heartbreaking like I could see how she was this was going to unfold and it was one of those moments where I was unsure whether or not to step in

and to try and fix the problem. Like Marley was not picking up on the social cues that these kids didn't want to play with her. And I could see her self-esteem just getting crushed by the fact that they were swimming away and running away from her. I think the biggest thing here was Laura came to us, Mitch, two people that don't have kids,

to ask us our advice on what we should do. And the answer is we don't have kids and we don't know. But no, we did have the bigger question, which is how do you build resilience in children, right? And I think that that's the question that most parents ask themselves. Like, are you doing a good job and how do you build good resilience in kids? Now, that question has definitely been looming the last day. And we have someone on the phone.

Her name is Michelle Mitchell. And she's a specialist in this field. And she's written an incredible book, which is called Everyday Resilience Journal. And it's for parents who have been asking this very question themselves. Hi, Michelle. Hi, Michelle. Hello. Hi, Michelle.

Hi, Michelle. How are you? Brittany, I couldn't do it. So we need you. What do we do in this situation? I've got this blanket rule. Laura, tell me what you think about this. I say say nothing with friendship issues for 48 hours.

And there's a reason for that. I think it gives our kids a chance for their intuition to kick in because they can take a little bit of time to notice what's going on. And if it's not an issue for them, then it's not an issue. And it sort of gives us a chance to come off the boil a little bit as well. So we might reframe how we're approaching it. I love that because you also sometimes you impose your adult thoughts. And there she's five years old.

She's like half the time she's got no idea what's going on. And I work it out. Yeah, and if they don't care, it doesn't matter in the sense that if it doesn't matter in their world, like sometimes we, like Laura said, we impose what we're feeling on them. And by the time we've imposed that and they've sort of absorbed what we're feeling and our rejection and our pain and our trauma from when we were five.

You know, their whole social life has just moved on and no one in their social scene cares about the issue anymore. Yeah, and I think a really good example of this is like you see all these memes and videos going viral online of a kid falling down and hurting themselves and looking at their parents straight away to see how they should react. They look to the parent, they're like, is the parent scared, concerned and worried?

Yeah, what do I do? Should I be concerned? Yeah, so I think that we see that all the time where they look for you to learn how to react. So if you just play it down and don't make a deal about it, It's probably not going to be a deal. See, I was thrown into a ceiling fan when I was six months old by my papa. And I think you can tell now, but no one cared.

No one cared. I asked papa the other day. He's like, did I? I'm like, he doesn't even remember. Yeah. See, and no trauma from that. Well, you still remember. You're talking about it now, 30 years later.

It's coming back to me, Michelle. Michelle, I have the big question, though, because it is something that so many people come back to, and it's how do you build resilience in your kids? I think what they've got to do is fail, but within their fails, they've got to actually see themselves succeeding. I think that's so important and I think that's got so much to do with us helping and getting beside them and actually helping them

feel their success and feel their strength. But one thing I'd like to suggest is making sure our kids have enough backup friends and you wouldn't use that word with a five-year-old. Michelle, I have got barely any friends, let alone backup friends. Go and play with your backup friend. Your cousin's over there. If Mitch and Laura are busy, I'm like, what do I do?

Imagine if you said, like, and that the kid's like, shall I tell them that they're my backup friends? Like a backup dancer. Yeah. It's like they've got to have friends outside of school. They've got to have friends in different places. Look, I don't want to brag, Michelle, but I gave that exact advice to Laura. I literally said let her fail, let her learn, let her learn the social cues.

Brittany was like, leave her on the curb. You'll get more sleep at night. I do want to remind the audience that Britt said that this is why children have allergies now because they are not parented correctly and that is on record. If you want some facts, Michelle Mitchell, brilliant author, Everyday Resilience Journal, you can go and buy it now.

Thank you so much for joining us on The Pickup. Thanks so much, Michelle. Oh, you guys are awesome. I'm going to get some backup friends. You need them. Have you guys heard what's going on with Rebecca Judd at the moment, Bec Judd? Oh, I'm across.

Oh, her son? Yeah. You have? Okay, so Bec Judd, for anyone who doesn't know, she is she's a bit of a melbourne socialite she's also an entrepreneur and married to chris judd who is a famous football player um now she was posting on her instagram where she has quite a few followers uh something that's been happening between her and her son darcy who's only eight years old so darcy for his eighth birthday i think it was he was given an apple watch now he took the

apple watch to school with him um and then during the day was like consistently messaging his mum Just really silly things. One of the messages was like, poo, poo, poo. Another thing, like, I love you, mum. Mum, come get me from school. Like, all throughout the day, just texting his mum. Mum, can I have a cookie? I've got the screenshots here.

Screams eight years old. Yeah, mum, can I have a cookie? Anyway, Beck posted this on her social media. And the first one said, Darcy got an Apple Watch for his birthday. And today he got an eSIM. He easily cracked the school time code and has been texting all day and calling me all day. Sorry to his teachers.

Now, people kind of, I think, had a bit of reaction to this to start with. because it is pretty spicy to give your eight-year-old an Apple Watch. It's kind of akin to giving your eight-year-old a mobile phone, right? But then it goes one step further. So then Bec posts another thing that's come through and it's an email from her school. The email says this. Hi, Bec.

Just a quick note to let you know that I have spoken to Darcy and his friend about calling the emergency services via their smartphones today. Luckily, it was 911, not triple zero. I'm sure he understands the seriousness of this game. Thank you kindly. now there's a problem in itself that he's calling 9-1-1 not triple zero oh yeah i mean like firstly you're like well he's going to be absolutely useless in an emergency isn't he but it does

make you question i mean i and maybe i have strong and harsh opinions about this but i think eight years old is way too young to be responsible for either a smartphone or a smart watch and taking it to school it's crazy i mean i don't know i think it's fine i think it's a little funny i think it also just goes to show like you're a parent you guys are older i'm younger i had phones when I was in school. I got a phone in primary school when I was a kid. Yeah, but you didn't sit at your desk with it, did you? No, I didn't sit at my desk with it, but I had fun.

I called, I remember calling the police and I got in so much trouble. The police called my mum back and, but like, it's not going to break the, they're kids, like kids be kids. I think it's fine. Nah, it's not the pranking. I think it's more an eight-year-old doesn't have the capacity to say, oh, okay, I better not be texting right now and focus on my schoolwork. If there is a distraction that is at your fingertips,

they're going to use it. But guess what else? He's going to have another distraction. and I'll have a Squishmallow or he'll have a fidget toy or he'll play with his shoelaces. There's something very different between a Squishmallow and an Apple Watch. I don't know.

I think that you're putting so much trust in your kid that they have the ability to concentrate and pay attention at school. And I just, I think about Marley, she's only five years old. And look, I don't want to be criticising how somebody else chooses to parent, but I think eight is so young to have a smartphone or a smartwatch or anything that could be such a distraction during school. I just don't understand how a kid could possibly need it. Yeah, I mean, I don't have kids, so I don't know.

I'm not yucking anyone's yum, but I wouldn't have had the capabilities as an eight-year-old to be like, oh, I better lock on down into my study and put my phone away. I mean, clearly he doesn't. Imagine having a kid at school who's got their own phone and they're trying to call the police because they think it's a funny game.

Well, he got disappointed. He's not going to do it again. Like, I think it's all right. Also, he's clearly the naughty one here. I don't want to put the blame on Bec Judge. She said he got an e-sim. I reckon he went to the convenience store. he got himself an e-sim, he's clearly done this.

No, I think she meant he got an e-sim because I bought him one. Today he got an e-sim. No, I think it was him. He's aged. He's also sending gifts of toilet paper flying through the sky. Like justice for this kid, Darcy Judd. Yeah, he is aged. He's a baby.

Like I think it's fine. I think we're overanalyzing all this stuff. No, kids, phones are actually banned at schools now. They are banned. You are not allowed to take a phone to primary school anymore. We're overanalyzing it. But 12 o'clock, these are the messages. What's my password to call people, mum?

Mum, what's my phone number? Mummy, can you come pick me up? I just, look, I mean, I'm sure from the reason that she's posting this, she also probably is second-guessed herself, but I do think it's crazy that kids this young are responsible and have smartphones and smartwatches. I agree. I think it is very young.

Oh, finally. No, I think it's young to have a phone, but I also think, like, God, being a kid, you're a kid for such a small window. Like, let him have some fun. Let him be silly. Let him be a kid and not have a phone then. I think the conversation's over. You reckon?

Let's go home. we're talking about inappropriate questions um what is a time or what was a question that you were asked that was completely inappropriate give us a call if this has happened to you now last night i shared one of the reels that was put up on the pickup socials you know it was just us having a chat having a giggle here in the studio here in the studio sitting here and i put it on my social media and i received a question from someone who is like a lovely listener i don't even think that this was done to be intentionally rude. But this person wrote, hey, Laura, are you pregnant? Also, let this be known, I'm not pregnant. So my response was no. Ha ha. Why do

you ask? This was their reply. Well, I remember when you were pregnant with Lola, your face just got really puffy before you announced it. And you looked a little bit puffy here, like just pregnant, you know, like frustrated puff. Ha ha ha. What is a frustrated puff? It could just be the angle of your face now don't worry you're gorgeous sorry my bad that is disgusting you know i mean it's kind of it's kind of funny but also no i'm not pregnant maybe my face is just a bit puffier i don't know if it's that funny i'd be pretty offended if someone's like oh you always look you always that ugly or is it just you know like you just don't say that yeah i get it a bit i you know a year ago now i lost 45 kilos and i was on a big fitness journey and i was posting

my hot girl walks every day yeah and then it i just you know kind of had its moment and it ended at Steam. I posted a photo the other day of just me standing and someone went, oh, Mitch, aren't you on your health journey anymore? I'm like, I'm just a photo with my grandmother in palliative care. That's so rude. I am. You still look great. You look amazing. I'm doing fine. I'm happy.

I kind of think it almost leans into like a backhanded compliment type thing. And you do like, I mean, we share a lot of our lives on social media and it's a great thing because often we feel very connected to you guys as well. And, you know, it's nice to share the moments of your life. But one thing that I receive pretty often is like, Laura, thank you so much. Thank you so much for just sharing a normal messy house. It makes me feel normal. And sometimes I look back on those videos and I'm like, it's clean. That is my house clean. What am I going to do here? Did you get any Brit? Because clearly you're a life of mess. I'm pretty perfect. Nah, the one that I get all the time is if I don't wear any makeup. And I don't know if this

fits in but whenever I don't wear makeup I get someone ask me if I'm unwell or if I've been unwell lately every time and I'm like literally don't have mascara on everyone's like are you sick and I'm like no this is me being quote-unquote brave. Amy's called us hi Amy what happened to you tell us. Hey guys how are you? Good. So my mother-in-law my lovely mother-in-law she asked me if my son had a disease because he's so white. How old is he? Does he have a disease? He's two and a half.

He's quite fair. So my heritage is Irish Scottish. I mean, sure. He's just white. He's just a little Irish boy. Does he have a disease? The funny thing is, is he has the same hair as his father had when he was his age. So I say, no, he doesn't have a disease.

He's just. He's two and he hasn't got a son yet. He's just a little Irish boy. No, you can't. Also, we're a very sun-safe generation. Yeah, people would always ask me if I meant to get pregnant as close together because I had two kids very, like, close. And people would always be like, was it planned?

Like, you can't ask that. You can. Can you? Why not? You shouldn't. Why? Because the only answer to that is no, she was an accident. But, like, yeah, unplanned.

I don't know. Is that offensive? I don't know. Unplanned's not a bad thing. Hold on. Hayley's called. What happened to you? What was your unexpected compliment backhanded?

So it wasn't really a compliment. I was a manager at a gym and one of the members obviously just overheard that I was talking about my mum. She had cancer. And he just looked me deadpan in the eyes and said, does she want to be cremated or buried? I'm so sorry. That's awful.

And then she's fine now. She's fine now. But then he asked, oh, so is it just you and your brother? Like, is the inheritance going to be split 50-50? Oh, he's got issues. He's not. Yeah. Double down.

I'm sure everyone out there has been asked an inappropriate question at some point in time. Oh, totally. My favourite being gay is, so who proposes in a gay relationship? It's like, I don't know. Britt asked that last week. I literally asked you that at dinner on the weekend and you couldn't have been happy to talk about it.

It's because you were paying for dinner. That is also true because I'm like, you're a sugar mama. Mitch, I go, Mitch, do you want to come to dinner? He's like, I'm busy. I'm like, I'm paying. He's like, I'm there. We'll be right back.