Life Uncut - The Most Embarrassing Story He’s Never Told: Uncut with Hamish Blake

Episode Date: October 22, 2026

Hey Lifers! Today’s guest needs no introduction, but we’re giving him one anyway. Radio legend, podcaster, TV host, Gold Logie winner, one half of Hamish & Andy and, as of very recently, member of the hole-in-one club (174 metres, in case you were wondering). It’s the one and only Hamish Blake! Hamish kicks things off with an Accidentally Unfiltered story he has NEVER told before. It involves Pants Off Friday, some questionable early-2000s diet pills, Matt Tilley’s beloved studio chair and a secret late-night dumpster run around St Kilda. We are honoured, and also deeply confused, that he chose us for this one. Once we’ve recovered, Hamish gets into the good stuff. He explains why he considers himself a “blue ribbon husband,” what 14 years of marriage to Zoë has taught him about growing together, and why parenting feels like doing a puzzle on a moving table. He also tells us why he’s protecting the school run at all costs, even when big gigs come knocking. We also go deep on his 20-year partnership with Andy. Hamish talks about why they chose to end radio on a high, how they watched for “the crack in the reactor” before anything could go wrong, and why podcasting has become his favourite thing they’ve ever done. Plus, we get the (very wholesome) goss from Andy’s buck’s party. Think less strippers, more 24 grown men playing Battleship at 1am. And of course, we chat about his brand new Stan show, Unskilled Adults. In it, Hamish and his mates take on real jobs with zero skills, including catering a wedding for 80 people in Townsville. Unskilled Adults lands on Stan on November 1st, so make sure you check it out! ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 — Welcome Hamish Blake + the hole in one he definitely isn’t bragging about 4:00 — Accidentally Unfiltered: Pants Off Friday, diet pills & the destruction of Matt Tilley’s chair 12:21 — Petty hill (RIP voicemail), being a “blue ribbon husband” & choosing the school run over big gigs 18:58 — 14 years married to Zoë: growing together & parenting as a team 24:21 — Why Hamish & Andy ended on a high, the magic of chemistry & falling in love with podcasting 40:04 — Andy’s buck’s party: Battleship, mooning & the legend of fruit bowling 43:53 — Raising boys in the age of social media: masculinity, resilience & “the doing of life” 47:04 — All about Unskilled Adults on Stan, including catering a wedding for 80 people See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncutt. I'm Brittany. I'm Laura. I'm Amish. It's the three amigos were back. Three amigos are back together again. I was about to give you a really big intro, but maybe you don't need it. Hamish Blake. He does heaps of shit. TV, podcasting, Gold Logie nominee. He's organizing. I mean, winner. I mean, I guess nominee, but a bit of a bound move to only list the nomination. Gold Logie nominee. Gold Logie.

Winner. Well, you can't win without being nominated, so you were right. But I think the biggest thing that you really wanted to drive across today was that you just got a hole in one and you wanted to add that to your CV. No, no, no. Look, at time of recording, it's still pretty fresh, getting a whole one. But I know you guys are Australia's, you know, depending on what week it is, you're probably Australia's number one.

You know, you're right up there in terms of podcast. But in terms of golf podcast, you guys are all sniffing around the top five. We are sniffing. But you're also, yeah, as terms of the Venn diagram overlap with golf. I'd say is huge. And so, yeah, happy to do an hour on the hole in one. To be fair, the hole in one came up. And I think I gave you an underwhelming response, because I'm very far away from the world of golf. And I was just saying, I've only been playing golf for like four or five years. And before that, I had what you had, which is what my wife

said to me, which is like, ignorant. Yeah, great. But aren't you always trying to do that? Like, isn't it the point? It was when you showed me the video of how far away the hole actually was. And I was like, wow, that's really impressive. I'm impressed. Yeah, but there's something very lame about a man showing someone that doesn't play golf the video going. It's not that. Look at this. Look how far away is.

I was more just trying to communicate to you how far 174 meters is and just to think about the probability. The wind and the flag. It's a very small hole and a very small ball. To be clear, you didn't show us a video of you getting the hole in one. You just showed us the flag you got it in. I was just trying to paint the picture of like that why golf. Not me. I'm quite cool about it. And let's just stop talking about it. But why golfers get very excited when it happens. Because it's sort of a, it's just a once in a lifetime moment. It is amazing. Yes. And like I said, I went from being underwhelmed to very much whelmed.

I was trying to because you said you were a swimmer. That was your sport. But it was more so I can like place everything in my mind when it comes to distance is like a 50 metre pool. I can like lay it out in my mind. Just trying to think though. What was your event when you were a swimmer? Backstroke. 50 metres? 100 meters. 100 meters. Couldn't go further than that. What's a good time for 100 meters? to backstroke. I can't even remember now.

This is 25 years ago. What's it take to do a lap? Like 30 seconds to do a lap? A minute? I'm like, no, like for backstroke, 38 seconds or like 20 seconds. I honestly can't remember. So like one and a half minutes for backstroke. Guys, this is, you fucking lost a lot.

Hang on, hang on, hang on. It's way fast. Imagine getting out of the pool and going, whoa, I did it in one second. And then all the other times you did backstroke, it was like a minute and a half. You're like, but there was one time I swam. And I did it in one second, which is very good. I'm more impressed than Laura because I am also in the Holy One Club, as you know, I did tell you. So I can recognize.

I'm being selfish here. Talk us through your mini golf hole in one. Tell us what was the course? Were they swinging golf bottles? Was there a windmill? It did actually come through a windmill. It had a little electronic component. Good.

Yeah. It was the hardest hole, actually. You know, it was a jungle one as well. Oh, my God. Oh, so you had to not get scared by the fake lion noises. Very hard. And it didn't even rebound. It was a pure holeing one.

You know, no walls, nothing. You know, it says mine too. No walls. And then did you have to go inside? No bumpers. Do you have to go inside? Because it's traditional, obviously, you get a hole in one. You shout at the bar.

You have to go inside by all the other kids like paddle pops and stuff. I got a free popcorn. I got free popcorn. But it's enough about me. Okay, do you know what? I know that we could spend an hour talking about your whole one. None of this is making the edit. But I'm going to edit all this out.

So let's get back on that. Just letting you know, thanks for coming in. But so far, we've got 20 usable seconds. Pretty much just the bit where you said hi. I want to ask you, you're accidentally unfilled. which is your most embarrassing story. Okay. I was thinking about this coming in, but it's a funny one because I was like,

what's something I actually haven't told before? Many years on radio, kind of one of the beautiful things that I try and teach the kids. Because of course, like my little boys now coming into like pre 10 years where it's all about, as we all did, trying to be cool, like trying to not be embarrassed. My big goal for the next, I don't know, eight years as a dad is to try and get a message across to be like, how do you say to people like, your embarrassing stuff is your best stories. Like no one remembers I was, it's true, I was cool on a skateboard. You spend basically, I think, from 15 to 25 doing embarrassing shit with your mates and then you spend the next 30 years,

to my knowledge so far, just talking about all the shit you did between 15 to 25 when you do the most embarrassing stuff. This podcast is based on our worst moments. Like, that's what it is. We're like, those are your content years. So don't, don't fear being embarrassed. This is amazing if it's something embarrassing. You're like, this whole house. That's what that was built from. Yeah. It's just built from embarrassment. Everything, but that's The light touches. So I was coming in here and I was thinking about kind of radio days and broadcasting. I don't think I've ever told this story.

But this is actually one of those moments where I always think a good barometer from a good embarrassing story is there are the embarrassing ones that you can have a laugh about. And then there are the ones where you're like, okay, but we're actually not laughing about this. Yeah. And those are the ones who are like, I think it was down the track. This will be the best type of story. I reckon it was 2006, maybe, 2005, 2006. and me and Andy were doing drive radio.

And we used to do pants off Friday, where we would genuinely just do the show in our underpants. We did that for 10 years. It's definitely not okay now. But people would just come in and we'd just be in our undies. So many people would be like, oh, I didn't know you guys actually did it. I'm like, yeah, of course we did. Like, you can't say you're doing pants off Friday and not do it.

So anyway, we were just sitting our underpants every Friday. At the same time, I think in the same era, I occasionally would, for a bit of content, would be like trying to lose weight. There was one time where I had to get under 100 kilos because I realized I was not allowed to be on trampolines anymore. Because you have to be the old trampoline with the no net around it. But like it would have maximum weight 100 kilos. And I found out because we were in New Zealand, me and Andrew in New Zealand and we went bungee jumping. And they wrote 106 on my hand.

And then they wrote like on your wrist in a texter. And then they wrote like 89 on Andies. And I thought that was like deli tickets. It's like what order we were jumping in. And I was like, man, oh, can I go straight after him? Because, like, if he's going number 89, I don't have to wait 17 goes for my go. He's like, that's your weight, though. I was like, you're standing on a scales.

Like, that's how we weigh you. I was like, 106. It hurts. Okay. It hurts. Okay. Well, I thought I was about 90 something. Anyway, I think we got a bunch of free suits and I couldn't fit into them.

So I was trying, for a bit of content, I was trying lots of different dieting strategies. and there were these pills. I can't remember what they're called. They were never famous. Like, they were not well-known, like, diet pills. There was, like, a chemist drug you could take. I think we had to get a prescription for it. But it essentially, this is so early 2000s weight loss, I guess.

I feel like I know exactly what this was. Like the Sennat tablets? I don't know what it is, but it stopped your body absorbing fat. What? I've never heard of this. So it looked like an antibiotic, but if you ate, like, chips or fried, chicken or whatever, it would bind, I guess it had some kind of like actual medical use, but it would bind the fat to it and you wouldn't absorb the fat and it would just kind

of pass through you. I'm feeling this is a bit black markety. I don't know if any chemist actually sold it. I remember going to chemist's warehouse. I'm pretty sure I went to chemist's warehouse on Chappell Street and got it. But I'm sure you need a prescription. In no way would this be a nutritional way to manage your weight anyway because it's like basically going, just keep eating chips and fried chicken.

But take this tablet. But take this tablet and it can't touch the sides, essentially. All I remember is it just changes the way things move down there. So it becomes oily. There's a reason why you haven't shared this story yet. It's confronting. When you do the drive show and radio, you're obviously used the same studio as the breakfast show. And for time in Melbourne, it was a breakfast show called Matt and Joe.

Matt was a lovely guy, Matt Tilly. He was the, he was like gave me my first job in radio. I worked on his show. He was very particular about his chair. The studios had gone through five or six chair upgrades, and Matt had always kept his chair. Yeah, creature habit. Yeah. And I would sit in his chair of an afternoon.

Like, he didn't care about that. He's just like, don't, this chair has to stay in the studio. You know, it's pants off Friday. We're in our underpants. The show's starting. And I've been on these tablets. And I guess I've probably had like Nandoes for lunch or something. Don't worry.

It won't touch the sides. And I guess just for player comfort, for thinking it to myself, you know, also you're in a room with your best mate. It's not unusual to, and I'm on a chair that's like quite padded and, you know, cushiony. And I guess I just maybe thought I could get away with a quick fart into the chair. But because I'd been taking these pills. You sharded. And it was not a quick, like it was, you know. Oily.

You took it. I discovered oil. It wasn't a geese. But it was just like, oh my God. And it happened, you know, the mics alive like, hey, mission. And I was like, whoop. Oh, oh. Oh, oh.

And I could, I could, like, it was spreading. And I was like, oh my God, what are I done? And then we had guests come into the studio. You took a dump live on air. As the mics went on. And so I was like, well, I guess like a naughty baby. I just have to sit in this now and do the show. And I was like, I can't get up.

Like I could feel it moving. Was Andy aware of what had no one knew? And then on a Friday would often have guests in. They're in the other studio. I'm waving to them. But you didn't tell anyone. Oh, I've actually any shit myself. I had to tell Andy during.

I tried, I just was in shock, I think, for like a few mark breaks. And then I said to Ando, because he's like, oh, I think they wanted to take a photo. And they said, I can't take a photo. Something bad has happened. Something really bad has happened. I think I've ruined Matt's chair. I think it's those weird things, those weird tablets that make you absorb all the oil and the fat. How did no one know that this?

No one smell it. No one smell it. But it was, it was kind of felt like I'd spilled like baby oil in my lap. If you want to get. do you want to get grubbic? I mean, we're kind of already there. We're there. I think everyone can everyone can envision what's going on. And I was like, okay, no, it's like, we'll keep this. Between us. Yeah, just, you keep sitting on your egg there. Like, you just keep, you know, you're like, this is like March of the Penguins where you have a job to do now. No matter what, you sit on that egg.

And we'll finish out the show. I'll clear everyone out of here. And then I had to kind of like, you know, go the bathroom to like throw the undies away, clean up as best I could. But then Matt's chair was like destroyed. And so. And to burn it. Yeah, we had to sneak it out through the fire escape and put in my car. I drove around St Kilda until I found, like, out the back of a place with a dumpster. And I had to, like, throw it out. And then I had to call Matt and be like, I told him. And I was like, can we just not do this on air?

Like, I feel really embarrassed. And he's like, okay. And he never did. No one ever brought up on air. No, he was good. He was good about it. That's when you know you've got good people around you. Yeah.

Because that's, that's content. He was annoyed at the chair going, but he was like, if it had to go, this is the best way for it. Do you know, this is going to make you feel better. So we had, no, you're not alone in this. We had Lizzie Who. You know Lizzie Who? Yeah. She's amazing.

We had her on not long ago. And she told a story where she was at home, thank God, but she was doing a live interview on Zoom or whatever it was. It was a big deal. And she needed to go to the toilets. But instead of just saying, excuse me for a minute, she was like, I don't want to interrupt the interview. So she also just shat her pants on the interview, live on. Knowingly. Yeah.

It was a choice. She made the choice. I think the urge was overwhelming. I don't think she was like, you know what, I could wait 10 minutes, but I won't. I love efficiency, so I'll just get this done now. So, like, there's a few people in your situation. Yeah, I mean, spare a thought. Next time you turn on the radio, someone might be sitting in their own shame.

I feel honored that you felt like this was a place to share that story. I'm confused, but thank you. That was brilliant. Hamish, another thing we do here is what hill will you die on? What petty hill are you willing to die on? Well, I mean, do you know, here's one I was thinking of the other day. I don't know if this quite qualifies, but this is more of a change in the world I would like to see. I think voicemail's over.

Isn't voicemail over? I just tried to call you on a voicemail and leave you in voicemail, and it doesn't even go anywhere. It says this number won't accept your voicemail. Great, right. Then my phone's doing the right thing. You know, you call voicemail now. Everyone's got a different system too. My worst one, I don't know which telco it is, but it's a lady going,

welcome to the voicemail system. And you're like, no one is impressed to be here. We don't want to leave voice bells. No one cares about voicemail anymore. And you also don't listen to them. No one listens to them. You've got a voicemail. I'm like, oh, that's unfortunate.

I will never play that. I don't listen to a voicemail. If you called me and I missed it, I know what the message is. I tried to talk to you. That's it. And we'll talk later. There's never been a time in my life where I've actually gone through the process of setting one up. So it's just never existed.

So you don't have one either. No. It goes to text. I just think we need to universally go. Can it? It's almost just like telling the telephone companies, hey, just so you guys know. No one wants it. Just have a noise that's like, eh.

What about a voice to text? You know, it's not the voice mail. The only time we do that is when I try and make it funny for Zoe. Like, there was a period I went through where hers would go, yeah, leave a 10 second message and we'll get converted to text. And I would just try and say like, you know, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, like, I'd just try and say it as much as I could. And that was fun, but not essential. Not essential.

Not essential. Speaking of Zoe, you called yourself a blue ribbon husband. What does that entail? And how does one self-describe themselves as a blue ribbon husband? Okay, this is actually looks very, this really does look like I'm taking on myself. Basically it just means if you're really good at golf, then every woman should be so happy to be. No, I said to Zoe, it happened kind of offhand. I was like, look, do you know if there was like,

a husband show, like a dog show. Think of, you know, Best in Show or from the movie, Best in Show, where people have to come out, everyone stands in a circle and the wife prances the husband around and he has to like do a little run around like a show dog. Perfect. I was like, if there was husband shows and you had to bring me, I said, I think I would get a blue ribbon. I might not win best husband of all time, but I think I would be like a blue risen husband. Pretty obedient. You know. You do shit yourself from time to time, though. I've got over that. I'm very well toilet train now. That was pre-marriage. So I've never shot myself as a husband. I'm like, just, I follow grooming instructions.

She's often like, what are we doing with that beard? Let's tidy it up. Within 48 hours, it's been taken care of. I was like, I think I'm a pretty well-behaved husband. That's pretty low, bar, pretty low-level stuff to get a ribbon, like that you shave your beard and you don't shoot yourself. Yeah. I mean, it is actually dogs.

There's dog level. So what does Zoe think about that? Does she agree that you'd be a blue ribbon? Yeah, good question. This is quite a while ago now at this conversation. I don't remember her, like, clapping and enthusiastically going, yes, yes, yes. Let me get the ribbon.

But I think she would agree, I think she would agree that, yeah, on the whole, and this would cause in too many headaches, I suppose, as a well-behaved husband. You were on our podcast four years ago now. And one of the things that we were talking about then was how you were intentionally doing less. I think it was your goal was to do less work so that you could reprioritize what's important to you, one of them being a good husband, the other one being a good dad. The third being golf. And the third being a master at golf.

Take that one off. I'll have even more time. What does it look like for you now? So like four years down the track, is that still where your priorities lie? I would say so, yes, that probably would have been the last year before my daughter went to school as well. So I had a real keen sense of like when Rue was her last year before school. And because, you know, she's our youngest and you just due to medical procedures, you know she's definitely going to be the last child you have. It's that thing of being like, well, I want to definitely soak this up.

And so I'm super glad I did. Then school does change things a little bit. Then suddenly you're like, all right, well, I've got school hours free now. But I love a really important part of my life and my day is the school run. Like, I love taking the kids to school and I love being going to pick them up when I can because that won't happen forever and I'm lucky enough to prioritize that. So I would say yes, I'm doing all right at that goal of trying not to be busy. The way my job works and Zoe's similar to like we have seasons.

You know, you'll have like an intense few weeks. But luckily I think we can, we do seem to kind of yin and yang that. We never both have an intense. season at the same time. So that's pretty lucky. But I would say it's, it'll get harder for everyone, I suppose, as you get older. But again, very privileged situation. I mean, because I do have a choose your own adventure type aspect to my job. Yeah, I'm sure. I can just pick and choose what I want to do. But the temptation is then just to keep filling up your days. And I do get easily excited and I do get easily distracted. So you do have to be on it a little bit. And I think kind of try and fence out

spots that are sacred is, is a good thing to do. I think you've hit the golden spot where you get to choose what you do and why. And even a couple of weeks ago, we were talking and I said, oh, would you host and you, I'm a celebrity because they're looking for new hosts. And you were like, well, probably not because I want to drop my kids at school. And like, which I think is you're in like such a lucky spot to be able to do that. Totally. Supremely privileged. But I think the only way you could slip up there is to go, okay, well, I'll just do this one thing because it's like, oh, how often does this come along? I'm very acutely aware, as everyone is, of just how fast their lives go. And you just don't get as many, or I'll just be busy for two months and then I'll be present. I don't think you get

as many of those as you think. How do you put those boundaries in place then for yourself? Like, what does it look like the rules to take on something new or what a project is that you decide to put your time to or energy to? And I know you say it's a privilege, but when there are so many work opportunities that come towards you and some of them are so exciting, how do you go, okay, this is the one I'm going to say no to, this is the one I'm going to say yes to. This is how we're going to juggle it together as a team. Like, what are the rules you have in place? I guess it's all a bit of a, like there's a lot of things that go into the soup to make up the decision. But a big one would be like, I mean, it sounds obviously like, what are you doing this for?

I think it has to be, you're doing this because you're putting something good into the world. And more and more I'm like, there's an element of like living deeply in it. Like you're sort of, you're doing something that you're experiencing life in a really fun and deeper way. So that immediately just rules out doing things only for money unless it's one day. And then, oh God, go nuts. Everyone's got a price. No, no. Hubble was a passion project.

Yeah, living deeply, I think, is the best way to put it. You've been married for, what, 14 years now to Zoe, is it? That was what Google said. We'll go with that. Yeah. Learns the 12. Google knows better than I do. Yeah, we 14 in December.

What do you think you've learned about marriage now after 14 years that you maybe didn't realize at the start when you first got into it in the early days? Yeah, these are good questions. We can go back to talking about golf if you want. What have I? Yeah, whatever learned. Sorry, so you're saying like, why a seven iron on that particular hole? Exactly.

No, I would say the big one, and I'm sure this is not unusual for people that are 10 years in, is that you grow together. Like, well, you have to grow together, I suppose. Well, you are going to grow regardless. So good news if you find yourselves growing together, because that makes it a lot more fun. Kids change things, obviously, you know, for the better, but it's so much less about you and so much more about there's the actual logistics of the family, then there's actually the heart and soul of what it means to have a family.

And so I would say the more you grow, I think the more you understand each other as individuals and the space they need and the support they need to be their best version of themselves. I think that's the funnest part about growing old with someone. Do you find yourself, and maybe I come from this from my parents, my parents been married for 50 years? They've always said that you have to sort of work really hard at relationships sometimes. You know, like it's highs and it slows. They were like, if we left it the first time, it was hard, we would have been over a long time ago. And I think you look at this next generation, not necessarily us, but a little bit younger.

It just seems we throw in the towel a little bit quickly, like we come up against something. And you're like, you know what, the grass is always greener somewhere else. It's so easy to find something else. And what do you say to those moments about really having to sit down and sometimes work through something as a couple? Yeah. I mean, I think if you ever have that voice in your head, and I think we all have it, I'm sure those had it, I'm sure where you're like, okay, well, this is hard at the moment. Maybe this isn't working.

Thankfully, I think I know enough to go, yeah, but all right, let's just imagine we blew it all up. I promise you this will come around again with someone else. And then, you know, you'll be in this again. It's not like there's a magic other solution to be like, well, we're getting on each other's nerves. So that's it. I'll go to the suitcase cupboard because you're like, yeah, okay, we could do that.

And you're going to go through all the hassle and the heartbreak of doing that. And then, you know, in the grand scheme of things, when you hit this point, again, this is what my brain says to me, what are you going to do then? Like, do you leave that one again? Or do you work through this? And so I don't know about people throwing it in too easily, because I know it, like, I also just know, I think when you get married in your new 20s, you're like, yes, we're doing that thing that everyone does and every relationship's the same. And you have this idea that all relationships follow the same arc. And then you get older and you realize that I think every single relationship on earth is by definition different because human beings are different.

So the alchemy of two people is always going to be a different product than another two people. We got married in our late 20s. And at the time, you're like, heck yeah, we'll get married. This is... Why not? What? Be in your 20s, just be full of energy. No responsibilities.

Like, having a great time. Yeah, we'll lock this in. I'll take this for 50 years. But you're not actually locking in that. You're not locking in being 29 together for 50 years. You're locking in growing together. And then that's what you find out. I also think.

And I know that it's one. thing to say, like people throw it into easily. But I think you learn a lot about who the person is once life really starts. Like once you have kids, once careers take off, you either grow together as people because you like the version that they are stepping into in those roles, or you innately fucking don't like it. And they're usually the relationships that end up sweating because, you know, the parenting is, you know, different views or different approaches or like one person might not be meeting the other person's expectation in terms of where the relationship sits. how do you and Zoe navigate the decisions you make around parenting together?

I think we really just come to it as a bit of a roundtable. I mean, sorry, we do it. Everyone does, which is we send each other heaps of DMs. Memes, reels. And, yes, this is what I was talking about. Oh, my God, this is it. And then you get together and go through the DMs and be like, oh, this is what this guy's saying. I think we generally, it is just that sort of group discussion of going, what do we think is going on?

Because I think when you're also figuring out how your parents, and what decisions you're making, you're not dealing with a static problem or a static challenge, I should say. You're dealing with a little person that's growing themselves. So every day it's a new thing and the things that worked before, they don't work now. Again, I'm lucky that in Zoe, and this is why I love our relationship, you're lucky to feel like you have a partner that is we have the same idea of what we're hoping to achieve and what's good. You have the same sort of space to listen to each other. You both want to see the other person do well. You both want to support the other person to help them be the best mum or dad that they can be.

And so we're, you know, we're a team. And like a good team, you're there to try and make the members of your team shine. You're not there to try and just have glorious individual performances, unless it's golf. But I think that's the other thing you learn to. This is never static. Like this thing is always in motion. You're always doing a puzzle on a moving table with pieces that keep changing color. So sometimes the piece you put in, there's now change color.

You've got to take that out. And that's what I feel like parenting is all the time. Like you're always just sort of making your best guess, never perfect. It's such a fluid thing that it, you know, it doesn't do well to have hard and fast rules. You know, strong views loosely held is kind of a good motto, I think. Should we go to your work husband, Andy? Yeah. You and Andy have been and had worked together for like 20 years across radio and podcasting.

I'm interested to see why and what happened to make you sort of end on a high. Like you guys were almost at the top of the game. Well, you were at the top of the game. Yeah. When you decided to pull the pin, it's giving Ash Barty. It's giving Ash Barty retiring. She did it the best. Yeah.

She did it the best. I loved Ash Party's retirement. So did I. But to so many people didn't make sense. And I remember we talked about it. We were like, wow, you're so young and you are the best in the world and you can keep cruising through. But you made a choice because she just was like,

my passion's not there anymore. What happened in your guy's life or career that made you think now's the time to pull a pin when you were at the top? I mean, I can't speak for Ash, but I will. So here's what Ash was thinking. It's Wimbledon. She wanted to play golf, actually. This is a common thread. When you find golf, you just give everything else up. In a funny way, it's out of respect for how much fun you've had and what you've done, that you're hyper aware of how much it would break your heart. to keep doing it on autopilot. Let's say for radio stuff or TV stuff,

we're like the worst thing we'd ever want to find ourselves in is a position where we're just doing this because we can, not really because we like doing it anymore. And because it's what you know. Because we know and someone will offer us a jobs. I mean, the worst case scenario would be if we just had a massive fight and never talked to each other again. But I think the second worst case scenario would be just like the banality

of just phoning it in. From year one, I was always really hesitant to sign anything more than a one new contract because I was like, Really? I was like, oh my God, what if it, like, we don't know how we're going to feel. And I was like, man, in three years' time, we're going to be 25. We'll be old men. Like, I bet then for 15 years, we just kept signing these kind of short-term contracts. But it was more, I think, of just the thing of going, I would hate to be in a position where for some reason the spark's gone.

And you're like, oh, I've got to do another two years of this. Then at the end of 15 years, it's easy to look back and be like, oh, what were you worried about? You loved it for 15 years. Yeah, but it also puts pressure on your relationships as well. Like, I mean, obviously, you and Andy, the closest of friends. friends and you've also made a business out of it. But when you're locked into the business, it changes it. It changes the dynamic.

It changes the French. It changes the responsibility you have to each other. And our whole job is to have a good time. Totally. Like our whole job is to be in a good headspace. And so really a lot of our world was often just making sure that that was authentically true. Like what do we have to do for this to be authentically true? And so we love doing full-time radio and then it kind of felt like it was time to do something

else and we went away and we did TV predominantly for four or five years, but we still sort of did one show a week because radio is our first love. And that felt right. And then, you know, I had kind of kids come along and I was like, I don't really want to be, I don't want to feel overwhelmed and busy anymore. And we have had a great run. And we were always just hypervigilant of going, we have to be the people to, we always talked about like a nuclear reactor. We're like, we've got to see the crack first before there's like a catastrophic explosion. I'm just lucky that both of us were like, the most important thing here is that we're never doing this where the other guy isn't having the best time.

Yeah. And And it was a thousand percent. He's completely been true to that. There's just never been any, at various times, one of us has gone, hey, should we move this way? And almost by the person saying it, it's decided. Because if one person's not there anymore. It's a relationship.

So if someone in the relationship goes, I don't know. I don't enjoy doing this. The other person's not going to go, I'll convince you, you do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's not going to work. We just have always been, I think, very aware of each other's feeling where it's at because having fun is the most important thing to do. Switching to podcasting from doing radio felt like the right thing to do. And then in hindsight, it has been the greatest thing we ever did because it's my favorite version of anything we've ever done because it feels the closest to who we are. Why is that? a number of reasons, but I think the big one is, like radio did feel like that, but then when you kind of move out of the radio world and you're truly just podcasting, it's just us with each other.

There's no rules. Well, it's true. At the end of the day, when you're doing radio, you can have a lot of creative control and agency over it, but you don't have full control. You don't have full agency. And there's still things that you have to incorporate. And we had a great team around us at radio. We loved who we worked with.

but you're there to do a job. You're working for commercial radio. They have clients. You can't pretend that doesn't exist. So when you have to do a thing for 7-Eleven or you have to do a thing for Continental Cuppersuit, you are doing it. 100%.

But you're trying to do as best. You're trying to still keep it funny, but it's like, this is your job. And then you have to throw to ads and you have to play music. And it's not a terrible. It's not a bad thing. That's just like, that's just the landscape you're in. Yeah.

And if there's a big, big show on TV and everyone wants to talk about, Farmer wants a wife, then, all right, you've got to watch that and try and think of something to say about Farmer wants a wife. In terms of commercial radio, we had pretty free reign to do some big, fun, silly ideas and the stuff we wanted to do. But then when you kind of come to podcasting, you lose that certainty, like on commercial radio, it's like, hey, you're part of a big machine here and it kind of works and you'll have a guaranteed audience. And then the fun of jumping to podcasting is, well, we might have a much smaller audience, but the hunch was, and you never know, but you're like, okay, the way I looked at podcasting, what I adore about podcasting is,

I think of commercial radio by the very fact of what it is and how people consume it as a big wide audience, like very, very wide, hundreds of thousands of people per week will tune in at some point. But we're on air for 10 hours, and even your most hardcore fan who might think they listen to you all the time, probably only catches a little bit Monday, I'm not on the car Tuesday, I love, yeah, most of Wednesday. But with podcasting, everyone listens to the beginning, middle and end of the show. Yeah. And we'll remember things you don't even remember.

It's more intentional. It's so deep. It's like it is a narrower audience at the start anyway. I mean, and I'm like, I'll take that deal. I'll have less people listening who know everything about the show because then you're truly off on a really fun adventure with your audience, which is all Andy and I have ever wanted to do. Like from our first ever little moleskin books that we jot it down, like our first meeting

about our community radio show, we were like our goal is for our audience to feel like. They're on the ride with us, not watching us on the roller coaster. After doing this for 20 years, though, how do you still come up with, I guess, your creative concepts now? Like, what has changed in the way that you approach content and the way that you approach what it is that you create and put out to your audiences? It's funny. I think you just get closer and closer.

Like, I think authenticity is just the number one thing. And it's not a guarantee. There's no guarantees. Like, you can do stuff that just doesn't work and is shit. That's part of it. You can edit it out, though. That's the good thing. You can edit it.

Yeah, you can do that. But I think what you get, do you even get better at this? Maybe you just get more confident in going, well, I think this makes me internally laugh. And I know Ando well enough to, I will enjoy putting this in front of him because I think this will light up something in his brain. And I'll enjoy putting this front of Jack, who does our show with us, because I think this will light up his brain. And that, that's as much of a guarantee as you get.

And then you just see how it goes. But I love that so much. that's just my favorite kind of content to do. The mics go on and this could last for five minutes, it could last for 12 and you don't know where it's going. You just kind of know that the scene is set and you'll just see what happens from here. I listened to a really great episode you recently did with the Imperfects. Obviously, you guys are close friends as well. Yes. It was the ADHD discussion around your divergence parenting with ADHD, but it was one thing that you said around being in high school. And you said that when you're in high school, what you learn is that you perform really well

under pressure and other people don't necessarily. And so when it came to things like tests and exams and like high pressure, short moments of focus, you're like, I will slay in this. Or this means I don't have to do a long essay at home because I can't do that. I could never sit down. Like I would have been terrible at like art or something where you have spent all year building a portfolio. It 100% would have been a series of napkin drawings done that morning on.

the way in on the bus. Conceptually, they have actually done really well for you. And then 20 minutes of bullshit about how this is a, this is my, this is my comment on the disposable nature of society these days, but I would have enjoyed the bullshitting. Do you think though now, even with how you approach work and stuff, like you're still someone who thrives under that. 100%. That pressure environment.

Well, I mean, I'm learning that more and more about myself. Yes, absolutely. That episode, we would, you know, we had a wonderful ADHD specialist on and this wasn't about me, but I was like, hmm. This is interesting. The cold's coming from within the house. For whatever reason, I was like, I guess just in the broader term then of like just knowing how your brain works.

Yeah. I was like, yeah, I guess I went and found one of the few jobs live radio every afternoon that's like you can't really prepare for. and sort of like bottling that and going, that's like one sentence that goes on a whiteboard, and then just seeing what happened that afternoon. But yeah, the red light going on and being like, all right, the whole country can hear you. I enjoyed that. Like, it's still, you still got really nervous and it's kind of like, it is a bit terrifying, but I just enjoyed that scenario, I suppose.

There was a snarky little gossip article in the last couple of weeks about Laura and myself, and it was supposed to be like an gotcha moment and it made us laugh. And it was like, rumour has it. Brittany and Laura from Life Uncut Bicker with it. other. And we were like, what's your point? Like, we were like, yeah, we own that. We work together five days a week for seven years. We see each other more than our partners. We are like sisters. And what we were going back to before is our core job here and our purpose is to have fun and is to bring content, to make people feel but happy and involved and whatever else. But at the end of the day,

we're running a business. And so we sort of lent into that. We're like, yeah, what's your point? Can you speak to that? What has it been like for you and Andy over the years, 20 years together, that the same thing, your best is, but you're also running a business. You're going to have disagreements with the way things should go. How do those disagreements look? How do you handle them? Who says, I'm sorry, first? Well, yeah, I mean, I'd say it was probably more prevalent in the radio days because

you were in each other's face. Six hours a day, you're in each other's face. And then we're off and off on trips together. Like we're living in a caravan together or we're like traveling across America. It was intense. It's an intense relationship to have with someone. And there was also a large deliverables aspect. because we're often doing TV and radio at the same time.

It was part of growing up. Part of growing up was like realizing that we're going to disagree. We're going to have disagreements on stuff. But I think really early on too, like the magic of being with Ando, and I think this is why, we've sort of said before, even if we ended up hating each other, we'd probably still stay with each other because of just how well it works. It's uncanny.

The division of labour just seems to be perfect. He has this complete superpower on one type of like organization. I fit in better. on another type of organization. We come together, I think, perfectly 50-50 on air. And then off-air, we're able to kind of split things as well. And it's remarkably efficient. And I think just purely because we're lazy, well, we just like efficiency.

On some where we're like, well, this is such an efficient system. Even if we hated each other, we would stick with this because, like, who could be bothered doing this the hard way, which is like working with someone you don't know and you don't get. You just basically describe the exact same thing that you described about your relationship with Zoe where you're like, and then I sit there and think, it would happen anyway. It's going to happen again anyway, so I might as well make this one work.

Work well with the team you've got. But also, on top of that is you're deeply in love with, you know, both people. Did you guys hash it out when something happens? You need to sort it out. We never really have had a bad one. Ando's also phenomenally good under pressure. He wears his emotions in a different way. I think probably I'm more overtly sensitive.

and can get more, probably can get a bit more in my own head than Ando, but I think he's also good at dealing with someone like that. Just as I'm thinking about it now, and you'd have to ask him, my hunch would be, he's probably had several times he's like, okay, Hame's upset. That's okay, I'll do my best standing person. I should be like, okay, names got a bit emotional. That's all right. That's going to happen.

He's a pretty emotional guy. There's upsides to his emotions. I'll just give him some space. We'll come around, but he gets a little bit touchy like that. So we'll make accommodations for him. So I'd say there's probably been times that I don't even know of where Ando's just like... Bit of leniency there. Yeah.

He's just given me space for me to kind of like sort it out. It's never kind of felt like he's gone. You've got to suck it up. You've got to do better than this, man. Like, he's just probably just put me in a corner and I've gone and spun out quietly and he's got on with running things. I love it. I mean, it's a really special dance.

You describe it perfectly. It's a really special thing when you find someone who you, you have that ability to have chemistry with. Yeah, chemistry's wild. It's really hard to replicate it or replace it. We almost were never sick across 15 years. I think there was one time around. He smashed his teeth out minutes before the show when we're doing this thing, ice skating.

He's at the dentist and we had to get someone else in. And it was hard. It's when you realize what you got back home. It's a hard thing to describe without just knowing what chemistry feels like and then what it definitely doesn't feel like. And it feels like a hard work. It feels like you're playing an instrument, like with someone else's hands.

Maybe if you're a really good piano player and someone gave you mannequin hands to play piano, you'd be like, you'd be like, well, I'm pretty good at piano, so I probably could make it sound decent, but not like if I had my own hands. Can I ask as well? Like you guys have obviously navigated work, life and, you know, the relationship that you have through different phases of life. You know, I mean, Andy's now getting married.

You've got kids. How did you guys support each other through those very different life phases? There's the conversational aspect. Like we talk every day. So there's always just the bouncing thoughts and feelings off each other. I suppose if you're going through a change, like if you've broken up with someone or you're starting to be with someone new, there's that aspect. But then there's also just knowing that there's ages and stages and the other person needs

space and that's totally fine. I suppose the easiest way to say it's like, we just never prioritised that Hamish and Andy the show over Hamish and Andy the people because we're like, you just don't get the show without the peoples. I mean, God, what a luck, how lucky to be, to have spent your life in that. environment, but it's very loving, I suppose. You're like, this is just a very loving place where it's unquestionable. And I'd say the same thing about Jack, too. Like, we are just not interested in anything where the outcome could jeopardise someone feeling like safe, happy, loved, and

really valued because the chemistry is kind of the rare thing. Like all the other stuff is you can complete with man hours, that the chemistry, if it's not there, just spending 10 more hours at work will not get your chemistry. So that's the thing we're always just trying to protect on the work side of things. And I think just being trying to be good people for each other on the life side of things helps, helps that. We don't have the Goss, but we do know you've just successfully pulled off, hopefully like a 15-buck box party for Andy. What goss can you give us? How lose was it? You would be so disappointed, is it? So Andy's Fonsei Beck, her hens was the weekend before.

Yeah. And it was, what's the, it was Wuthering Heights kind of inspired. Oh, I looked gorgeous. I did see it. It looked stunning. So everyone's in like port couture, basically, and like corsis, corsets, corsets, you know, they look great. Potato, tomato.

You're 12 formal. They look great, you know, and it was like at a beautiful French restaurant and it was just like very chic. So I, knowing what's coming up for Andy's box, I'm like to beg, oh my God, this is so annoying, like, you've stolen our theme. They're going to have to like. come up with something now in a week. In a nutshell, like the only gosh, like, really, I could give you the run sheet of events,

but it boiled down to going. Really, the thing that excites everyone the most is just dumb competitive games. I mean, we're pretty simple guys. The weekend was pretty much, I do think this is the funniest thing you can do with a bunch of guys, like the simpler the game. Like egg and spoon race? What are we talking? I mean, yeah, we didn't do that, but it would have been a contender because, honestly,

with the group of people that are there, the Egan Spoon Race wouldn't necessarily be the funny thing. The 20-minute argument of the rules before Egan Spoon Race and different personalities coming in and the heckling that goes on and like the intensity with which the rules would have been set. Like that's the funny part of the Bucks. So, you know, without wing to, there is no scandal, but I can tell you that at about one in the morning, one of the events was the battleship, like the game battleships, right? which is pretty basic. But there's two teams of 12 guys, because you're all playing for like championship points across all these different events.

We're in a conference room. There's an elaborate cardboard divider that we've built down the middle just to stop cheating so no one can look over and see your side of the board. And there's 12 guys like furiously fighting with themselves and each other about should it be C3? No, that's too fucking obvious. This is the antidote to the masculinity chats.

It's currently been happening. Just getting 24 very nerdy men in a room together They're having a bus time. They're hugely competitive. No strippers. Just playing battleships. Yeah, battleships. I mean, there was some flesh because then when a boat got hit, I don't want to name names here,

but I definitely saw Tim Santa Maria start mooning us and his twin brother smack in his ass because they'd sunk one of our ships. You know, then it kind of went deep into the night. That was probably the moment where I went, this is like one of those memes where, like, you know, the girls are seeing me and be like, I bet he's cheating on me. Come back to like, like F5. Like, damn it. it. Yes, fuck you, dancing, dancing, smacking butts. We sunk your boat. That was Andy's

Bucks. And that's what Andrew loves. There's something just very deep in guys' DNA. We want to play dumb games with each other. Andy and I before we did our very first radio shows, which was Monday night, like 10 to 12 midnight, we did a radio show for about two months called the Almost Tuesday show. And no one was at the radio station. Like, we had to let ourselves in, and it was kind of dark. It was like we're at a haunted radio station in Melbourne. And we, just, we played a game where just, I guess just to like relax before we went on here, because it was so nervous to you, even though absolutely no one was listening. In the newsroom, which was like empty, we would do a version of lawn bowls called fruit bowling.

And so each week a different person would bring in a different fruit. So it would be like coconut or mango or apple or whatever. And you had to roll the fruit and get it the closest to the marker. And then we had like a fruit bowling scoreboard in our office. You guys are crazy. Who went with which fruit? I was like, kind of like Annie's Bucks was just kind of like an elaborate version of fruit bowling. Britt, if you wanted to get a headline out of any of that, it's not happening.

There was butt smack. There was butt smacking. Do you know what? Speaking, and I mean, I know that this is a bit of a kind of swinging this conversation background to parenting for one second. And it's only because when we, I mentioned this idea of like, there's lots of conversations around masculinity that's happening online and this potentially being the antidote to that. As a dad to a young boy that you say is like at the age where,

it's just like that pre-teen coming into the world that everyone's kind of really worried about now with social media and the exposure of what's happening online. How are you having those conversations with Sunny in your house? And how are you, I guess, like talking about this concept of masculinity with him? I think our goal, like anyone with a young man in their family or a young person in their family is, yeah, and I do not have the answers here. But I think it's the battle is to stay. A, connected to real people and the real world and the relationships that you have around these kids is so important. Like the human-to-human relationships, family, you know, friends, sports clubs, real people who I think the biggest goal is to instill in our young, in our boys, self-love, like a sense of worth and a sense of just who they are, like what they bring to the table and their light, like their unique light. The tricky thing about parenting, as we all know, is you can't just say that to a kid.

You can always be like, oh, and remember, remember, don't care what other people think. Love yourself. Good? Okay, great. Have a good day at school. Great, because they're like, well, I do. And I want to go to school and I want to have the highest vertical leap. But you've got to build it through resilience, which is then really hard when, and we talk about

this a bit, but like when your kids are so lucky. I think about this with my children, my children are so lucky. And so I had these moments where I'm like, how do I build resilience in these things? Like, they don't know what resilience is. And like, you know, resilience comes from being exposed to something appropriately hard, healthily hard, and figuring it out for yourself. Like, I don't think you can just kind of go, I did a one afternoon resilience course and that's great. Now I have resilience. I think it actually is like we were talking about before with relationships.

It's a daily practice or something that I think about a lot is how can I, especially as you have kids are getting older, how can I manage you, how can I make sure you're exposed to situations where something's hard? you don't have the answers, you might fail, and you know it's okay to fail. And almost, you know, my more global goal is to be like, I just want you to have highs and lows and wins and losses and know that it doesn't change how we feel about you. And you hope that that then doesn't change how they feel about themselves. You want them to fall in love with the doing of life, I suppose. Like that's, I do not have the answers, but my goal is I'm always, I say that's my North Star. Like how do we go and a lot of, I think it's time and love and space for them to be themselves and make mistakes. But how do we have you fall in love with the doing of life?

And hopefully you get to have highs and lows together and you definitely don't need to be the best ever. Do the kids know that you guys are famous, like media personalities? And do you use that as a flex or is it embarrassing? I think it's either. I think it is just that's just what dad does for each other. They're not impressed. Right. So it's not a flex.

I can't use it as a flex. There's definitely never been impressed. Talk to us about you've got a brand new show on Stan called Unskilled Adult. I do. You know, it's very funny. As you were saying, Laura, before, like, you've got good at putting yourself in high pressure situations. I'm like, yeah, I've actually made a TV show about it without really realizing what

I was doing. It's exactly that. Well, it's not exactly that, but the solution relies heavily on me realizing that. I work best when I'm on the hook. You know what it also is, the need for novelty. You could not have made a TV show that is more you for satisfying the need for novelty. Custom built this TV show for me. Look, it stems from the fact that, and this I've learned in talking to other people kind of my age, mid-40s,

not an unfamiliar feeling to be like my career has been one very specific thing. Yeah. But I can't do anything else. I don't have any other skills. Dude, my husband, I love him, but he'll listen to this. He's pretty useless at anything outside of playing football. You can stop a soccer ball with the best of them? Yeah, but I ask him to fix the gate with just like one screw.

He's like, it's broken. So I have to go out there and do it. Like, there's no other skills. Yeah. Yeah. I've got to make the place for the Melbourne footy club in the AFL. And he's like, look, I think I could jump quite high and tap. I can't tap a ball to someone on my team better than other people.

That's about it. But I can't hang a picture. I can't hang a picture. A time of Australian, but I can't hang a picture. So in this vein, right, I was like, okay, this is a thing. This is a funny feeling that people in our industry have. And I think there's something funny in it. I was like, what would be the ideal way to hopefully learn that satisfaction?

Because I do think there is kind of a fun life satisfaction in learning a skill or certainly being in a position where you must learn something. And it comes back to, I guess, what we're talking about as well, about sort of maybe living deeply or creating an adventure. So I started a real business online. And I put out an ad on Instagram earlier in the year, which was like no real explanation as to while I was doing this, but like, hey, if you've got a job that needs to, doing from a couple hundred bucks to a few thousand can be in any field, you know, here's the website.

Go on the website and we could do this job for you. And everybody in the public knew it was you? So I did. People knew it was me. Well, actually then, then we have some people working for the show who is job it is to like kind of, you know, boost this message out of because we want real people that really need jobs. That's the first ingredient for the show.

So luckily enough, a couple of thousand jobs submitted on this job website. So then each episode, it's called unskilled adult. each episode, it's myself and two guests who change each episode. We get together, we sit down at a table, we open up an envelope, and in there, the job has been selected for us by Tim, my mate, who's the producer, but we're kind of in the dark until we open that envelope. And the rules of the show, whatever that job is, we then ring the client and go, we'll do it.

And usually that's like a Wednesday that we get the job. And we usually, it's by about Friday afternoon that we have to have the job done. So from that point, in the first episode, it's we have to make six planner boxes. But there's no TV magic. There's like no team that will help. It's really just like from first principles to go. You genuinely have to learn how to do it. Yeah.

So it's like, well, we're going to need wood. Or was it going to need tools? Hammer. I just want to know what the insurance is on this. Within six months' time, there's some sort of insurance claim. Someone's been hurt because of something's falling off a wall that Hamish hung. I couldn't tell you. One of the episodes.

The war falls down. And again, I'm blissfully ignorant. This is poor Tim's joke. Probably don't come for me. Yeah, for like weeks in advance, he's the one going, okay, we're going to do this for this episode. I don't know until I'm there. One of the episodes was catering a wedding for 80 people. I did see that in the promo and I thought you might have been off more than you can chew.

But that's the fun. For you, not for the bride and group. Yeah, not for the bride and group. And Tim was, again, I don't think about this stuff, but Tim was like, I'm so worried about food poisoning. Oh, my God, of course. We took about an entire wedding. 80 people. Well, we know this season two is not happening.

Alternate drop, beef chicken. I was in Townsville, too. So we had to fly. So, very hot. Three of you cooked solo for 80 people at a wedding. Yeah. Well, one of my mates is an amazing chef for people that know restaurants. His name is Ben Shuri, and he runs a chef in Melbourne called Attica.

And Ben is lovely, and, you know, it's one of the top restaurants in the world. And Ben is like, he's a genius. Yeah. But he's also like salt to the earth, like Kiwi, you know, just unbelievable food knowledge and cooking knowledge. Because again, usually the first instinct when you get given the job on the episode is kind of just shock. Like your brain is reeling going, fuck, how do we do this? And Ryan Shelton's on that episode.

And I was like, right, well, let's call Ben. Let's go Ben. And so we call Ben. And he's in shock a bit as well. So he's like, how many people is this for? Oh, no. It's for 80. He's like, you would need.

And I think he thought, because we were sort of garbled, like trying to explain everything to me at once. I think he thought, I don't know, we were trying to, it wasn't us doing this. So he's like, for that, you would need six experience chefs. I was like, well. We've got three in experience. We've three who've never done this. And I think again, he thought this was a legitimate option. He just goes, don't do it.

I was like, okay, well, we are doing it. You're like, it's happening. How would you rate how it went? I mean, without giving us too much of a teaser of the show, the episode. That's episode four. That's out. So this, yeah, the series comes out November 1 is the first two episodes. And then the next two episodes actually come out the next weekend.

So, okay, so this is like a couple weeks away, November 8. The wedding, I was pretty impressed with us, to be honest. I will tell you this, there is so much to do when you're cooking for that many people. So we get the job on the Wednesday, the wedding's Saturday night in Townsville. And then, so Tim's like, okay, so you guys better get to the airport this afternoon. I was like, this afternoon, what are we getting up? It was Wednesday. It's like, you got a prep.

Yeah, I thought we would. I was like, all right, mate, if we go up today, we'll pray for a day off. We can go and see the barrier reef. Go over to Maggie Island for a day. We did not. We did not. We did not. We did not even get a half day reef to.

are in, there is a lot to do. I mean, I think about what it's like to prep for dinner. We're about 12 people that come at Christmas time and it all falls on us in our household. That's a two-day experience, just trying to get everything ready for them. Never done it. Let alone, I didn't think so. Have made some birthday cakes, though. So you're across that.

Yeah. How do they pay you? And do they, if you don't complete the job or it doesn't go well? Sorry, yes, that's the last element. We thought it would be only fair. Because obviously people know that it's being filmed. People want this job done. Whatever, you know, whether it's like, we're panel,

beating, we're welding, we're like making props one episode for an amateur theatre company. Generally people's attitude was like, yeah, look, we're fine for you to film this, but we need this done. It's still a real job. We're not fucking around here. Like this, we want this done. And so, and we want to do it too. Like we, all every single job, like it's infectious, you really want to do a good job for the client. And at the end, they do get to decide. Maybe you're quoted like two and a half grand for this particular thing. And then they, at the end, we do give them the opportunity to go, look, for whatever reason, we're going to pay this much. So they can decide how much they'll pay and whether they pay.

But I do need the money. I like the money because I spend. Hamish, I do like the money. I do want the money because we've been there for three days and usually I've spent like four times that much on tools. Can I get a little bit of cash for this? Did anyone not pay you? Was any job so bad?

I mean, maybe you don't want to give that away. No, there is one. We don't get that. Well, here's what I will say. So do you know what I reckon the great lesson for life is? And if we want to get a little bit deeper on it, going back to a fun thing to talk to the kids about, is like, you don't have to be the best.

It will never feel. This never feels like this is great. A little bit of overconfidence can be healthy if it's sort of balanced with humility. If it's balanced with like, okay, this isn't going to be great, but we do have to start. Just starting, just doing. The one thing I've learned is like,

you just action beats everything. just do something. Work it out on the way. You just got to do it on the way. My absolute toxic trait is watching people do renovations and thinking I can do it. I can do it. I can do it. That's my toxic trait.

My toxic trait for this show was every time we got a job, every time, even though I've had one, two, three, three, four, five, six or seven previous examples to prove this wrong. Every single time you open up and go, I actually think this one's an easy one. This sounds doable. We got it. This sounds pretty good. I actually can't wait for this. So wait, when is it all out?

November one comes out on Stan. November one on Stan. We cannot wait to watch it. It was a hoot. It was a hoot. I was never been so tired in my life. And I've never had so much respect for anyone that has any skill. Like it is... Apart from talking.

I cannot believe houses get made. Tudbers. Cubboards look so good. Do you know what, though? Who makes jeans? Not me. Jeans are incredible. We tried to make pants in one episode.

Like, how do you make pants? It's so hard. So it just popped into my head. I was like, oh my God, I'm picking up my daughter from school. So we've got skate club. Wait, as in roller skating club? Blading, yeah. Oh, sorry.

Her and two of her buddies are. That is the only other skill I have in my whole life. Your bladers. I can rollerblade. I love that. That's a flex, though. It's a flex. In 1996, the world didn't know who was going to win out of skateboarding and rollerblading.

Like, they were both as popular as each other. In 1996. Oh, yeah, it's not blading though now. We obviously know that now. We obviously know that now. Like, it was like, do we bet on computers or avocuses? Like computers obviously have won now in hindsight. But at the time in 1996, it was a 50-50.

I picked rollerblading, learned how to roll-blading. I can't skateboard. We now know who won. But rollerblading is still a fun thing to do if you're a nine-year-old girl. So you put skates on as well at Skate Club? Yeah, teachers got to skate. Yeah, which you think is cool. Like you feel like it's impressing the kids.

But then we do it at these netball courts, which is like, there's like 15 full courts of kind of like teenage girls. And that's the bit where you become a bit self-conscious and go, this isn't as cool as I thought it was. I mean, it's a 44-year-old man just gliding around in front of these really cool teenagers. Hi, girls. Like, oh, that's that. Isn't that guy famous?

No, he's just a loser. Don't worry about him. That's my dad. No, they're heckling me. And I don't think I'm recognised at all. Like, I don't think they're going, that's a guy from like I must have. They think you're a loser. They just like, I hear things like, ooh, smooth moves.

Like, oh, looking fresh. You're in here, if I'm 15, you're a girl, I'm embarrassing. I get it, I get it. Well, look, you've got to get out of here for Blaine Club. I do. I go skate, guys. I've got to get my skates on. I've never actually had to say that in context.

Thanks so much, legend. Thank you, ladies. November 1, don't miss it. Unskilled adult, Hamish. Thank you. Please, go.