Life Uncut - We have BIG BIG NEWS!

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

Hey lifers! We really dangled that we had some big news to share today. There was some speculation and it was in one direction. That direction was Britt. First up we get an update on how Britt’s time in Italy was and what the future is geographically looking like for Britt and Ben.Keeshia wonders if you’re the person in the relationship/friendship who turns up to the airport 3 hours before the flight or if you just make it through check in by the skin of your teeth?Then it’s time for our big news!!   You can watch us on Youtube Find us on Instagram Join us on tiktok Or join the Facebook Discussion Group Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! XxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode was recorded on Camaragal land. Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Brittany. And I'm Laura. And wait, I really want to know who actually set their alarm to 5am this morning. Not me. We did say, if you listen to Ask Uncut, we did breadcrumb, that we have some big news on today's episode and so we told you to set your allowance to 5am and there were look the debate

entered the chat as to whether a 5am or a 6am release was a good idea and a lot of you think 5am is the way to go so it's the new lay of the land everyone yeah i will say message received okay 5am is the new time we did not get a single message of someone saying no i prefer it released at six we did get many saying please release it at five o'clock okay so we do have some big news today to share and if you want to speculate like now's your time speculate you probably got about 15 minutes before we tell you what that news is there already has been a lot of speculation what have some of them been a lot of people think that i'm already married oh yeah a lot of people think that i got married secretly which i understand why can i say not one person messaged me a

speculation everyone messaged you or messaged life uncut but no one speculated about me yep They're like, Laura's a hot mess. That bitch has got nothing going on. There were some tour speculations. Actually, I got a merch one. Yeah, merch speculations. All things that we should have done. Yeah, but unfortunately not.

There were some speculations that I wasn't coming back from Italy. I got that. I got that I was one-way ticket. I wouldn't do that to you guys. I wouldn't be like, mate. You will get some warning. I don't doubt that it's going to happen though soon. I do understand why the speculation came that I was married.

firstly i was trialing like what size wedding ring i wanted so i was putting different bands on my engagement finger to see like what would fit and what looks good and i was practicing and i forgot to take them off for a while and some of you like hawkeyes saw that i had another ring on so i understand why it does look like i was wearing a wedding ring also ben's photos were inverted you know how if you can take a photo sometimes it flips it so ben wears a ring on his right hand, but it made it look like he had it on his left. So it did look like we ran away and eloped. Guys, we have a podcast. We would share with you everything. We don't keep any of our personal lives to ourselves. Also, my wedding is not a secret. Britt is not getting married

without us telling you every single detail at some point. We're not going to tell you live because, you know, there's got to be some secrets, but they're always delayed secrets. We tell you very soon. But they're the speculations. So we are going to tell you in, what do you reckon? 20 minutes. Well, I don't know. We're like, who knows? Just keep listening. did you not get one speculation nothing about me nothing people are like no no what are they going to speculate about people like Lola slept through the night she slept in her own bed the only speculation I received was because I went to a wedding on in New Zealand over the weekend and I got messages asking where Delilah was if both of us were away I get that a lot too

only speculation I receive I don't even think that's speculation that's just pure concern And people are like, Delilah's only two mums in the world have left the country. Oh, put your minds at ease. She was with my mum and then Britt came and picked her up. That was the only kind of, yeah, I got nothing as well. Are we the boring ones? Everyone just expects everything exciting to come from Britt.

I think that we're the predictable ones. That's the problem. Although you shouldn't be. I'm pretty impulsive. Should we talk about the elephant in the room? Yeah, okay, so look, before we do get to the big news we want to talk about, the toupee's taken over. You all know about the clip-in fringe.

Keisha is a big fan of the clip-in fringe. She vibed it on Vibes and Unsubscribe. She wears it often. And it is like, it's kind of like flirting with the person that you think you want to be but you don't want to commit. So every so often Keisha comes in and it's a clip-in fringe day. It's really good if your hair is dirty. It's really good if, like me, I get Botox and I haven't had it

for like six or seven months. It covers the forehead. I just feel as though I feel a lot more creative and I kind of feel a bit more artsy. I feel artsy. So we walk in today into the studio and there is Brittany Hockley. First proper record back from holidays in Italy wearing a lovely red top, which does look very Italian.

You could be in Positano right now with the most aggressive toupee clip-in fringe you have seen and it looks great. Stop calling it a toupee. It's a wispy fringe. You're making me feel like Donald Trump. It's not a toupee. She's also orange. I'm not.

Got no sun in Italy. okay so when Keisha got her fringe we all actually got a fringe Laura shock I think left hers on the top of her car and it flew off on the harbour bridge no no let me tell you Keisha Ness is in the corner laughing she knows it's true everything ends up on your car flying off do you know what actually happened Keisha handed me the clip-in fringe and like the reason why I'll never do a clip-in fringe is because like in the morning I have a shower I get ready for work and I do one hairstyle which is slicked back I was gonna say you with a slick back and the fringe would not work that's it that's all I do so like the effort that I would have to do to make sure that I had

dried neat hair in order to do the fringe is a level of effort I don't have and can't comprehend but Keisha gave me the fringe I put it in the door of my car yeah that was eight months ago it is still in the door of my car and Keisha gave me my fringe when I had orange hair so I was never able to wear it so I've gone back now and I finally wore it can I tell you how upset I was I had big plans for this fringe this fringe was going on an Italian tour and I got there on day one in Milan and I was like oh the fringe screams Milan forgot it forgot to pack my fringe to Italy and I was so it wasn't rational how upset I was I was so upset to Ben like what's wrong I was like I forgot my fringe he was like thank fuck he hates it it is uh yeah if you've ever been through a breakup

and considered cutting a fringe which I think every single person has done I have done it I love the fringe, but you usually only love it for like a couple of weeks. And then, and then it goes through that awkward growing out stage. There is a company will tag it because like I said, Keisha's vibed it before who make these great clip in fringes. I am yet to be converted. And I do feel like this is going to be the time when I was coming into the studio wearing Crocs and you guys were all like, you're a loser.

And then within six months you were all wearing Crocs. So I know that in six months time, I'm going to come in with a fringe and I'll eat my own shit. But that is why it is so good because you're not stuck with it. I could not have a fringe by the end of this episode. Look, this is our first episode back since being on break. And Britt, you have been in Italy. Updates.

You've also been trying to learn your wedding dance. There's a lot been going on in your life. Do you know, this is so unusual. And it's only relatable to people that are in a long distance relationship. Or maybe, yeah, their partners might work away or you're in like the flying flyout, whatever it is. But every single time I go to see Ben, and to be fair, this was the longest time apart. So we hadn't seen each other since Christmas, basically, like the first week of January.

Yeah. I genuinely, like we talk every day on FaceTime, but if you think of FaceTime, you hold a phone up and you see their face. I forget what he looks like every time I see him. From the neck down. Yeah, I'm shocked every time. Like I'm literally taken aback.

I get out of the car and I'm like, oh, my God, I forget what you look like. I forget how tall you are. I forget how you feel. I forget like it's like rediscovering each other again every time. I'm not mad about it, but it always takes me by surprise where I'm like, oh, that's right. like you're a real human that I can touch because I feel like I'm in a relationship with an AI robot

half the time but he's changed like it's really weird I think when you're seeing someone every day you don't notice changes and then totally yeah so he plays for this new team in Italy now and for anyone that doesn't know football the team he's in now or the league he's in is like one of the best leagues in the world it is so professional and so strict I don't know if strict's the word but it's just different to anything he's ever done so the training is so intense and everything's so serious yeah and so he trains so much more than ever and he's always been very dedicated but you should see the kardashian booty on this guy i have never seen a squat booty because he has to work out he got a bbl as well bro it's all i could look at i was

like let me feel that and it was like i could put a drink on it he's got this huge muscly bubble butt thing and it's and I'm like I love what he's happening but it's just such a weird concept to I don't know how to explain it I don't know if I'm explaining it right but to look at someone that you are I'm getting married to him like I love him and I'm rediscovering him every time you literally walked in and said Ben has a massive ass you're like yeah he's got a huge butt it is you're like and in the best possible way no it's great like I don't know where it came from should we get Ben to do that photo shoot that Kim Kardashian did with the champagne glass on his butt you know how it's like squirting over her head yeah kim kardashian's such a chameleon though

like going from having like you know a little butt shelf to having no butt we're like and i feel like it just happened so rapidly to be clear and in reverse i don't reckon that that photo of her with the champagne on the butt i that has to have been like enhanced oh it was yeah everything they do is enhanced it was they are enhanced there's been that was unpacked in 2020 okay moving forward well i didn't want to call someone out without knowing for sure that's that's how i am you know britney's really abreast of all the pop culture here defamation laws in australia are really sweet so sweet just wanted to allegedly allegedly kim kardashian's butt in that photo was enhanced do you like the dump truck ass

no yeah we had amazing sex so um that wasn't the question i think everyone thinks that when you're in a long distance relationship that when you see each other again that it's just like intense so much sex every single day it's absolutely not like the first two days are fire flame but um you just go back to normal sex like every couple of days and because you it's normal life right like you got your tie your jet lag your training but the first sex was reminiscent of the first time we ever met you know how i said it was like hollywood movie sex on our first night stand it was like picking up i had somewhere to see it because i'm his butt like he's putting on his shelf but it was it was really really nice and it was special because we got to spend it with

sherry and jay and baby maya came over and so we had like a really nice little family reunion it was cool it's so much nicer to visit now than romania yeah like when i was in romania it was really hard because i didn't feel like i could walk around by myself when ben's away or working i didn't feel safe a lot of the time and in italy it was just different i was very comfortable exploring on my own and just going to restaurants and cafes on my own and doing things like that. So I hope he stays there more long-term. I could see myself there more than I could see myself in Romania. Like I was never going to live with Dracula ever. What happens with his contracts now? So he is obviously on a short-term contract in Italy. When is the contract period and what

is the hopes? Is it so that next year he gets a long-term one and is based in Italy? Yeah. So the decision basically will be this June, July. So that's when every transfer window for every footballer is. And that is when he will hopefully sign, hopefully a long-term contract where he is. But if not, wherever he goes will be the next big contract. So that is the decision where we both want to make sure that I could be happy to be there. Because obviously, hopefully we'll have a family in the coming years and I want to make sure that it's somewhere that I would want to be. But also he's not going to sign somewhere like for example Romania where is the place that you didn't feel as though it could be home for you as well. Yeah it's a joint

decision this time. Yeah. Obviously it's what's best for his career like his career is important but family is important as well. And you feeling safe as well. Feeling safe wanting to visit you know it's obviously an expensive relationship I don't want to have to travel the whole time like we want to spend more time together and less time traveling. So where he moves is like the biggest decision we will make. Yeah. So this is a really big year for us. Big decisions, obviously getting married, choosing what last name I'm going to have and choosing where Ben's going to spend the next couple of years. What are you guys been up to? That's very exciting. I went to New Zealand over our little break for one of my one, actually two of my wonderful friends weddings. We went and

spent some time in Queenstown and in Wanaka, but I want to ask you guys, cause something happened on our way to the airport. And I think it was one of those moments where I had that realization, You know how with a lot of things, it's like one person in the relationship is A and the other person in the relationship is B and they always end up together. I have never had content blow up in the same way. So Matt and I made a reel quite a while ago and it was like the two types of people when it comes to a dishwasher. So the people who like stack a dishwasher perfectly, which is Matt, like Matt does the

dishwasher like it's a game of Tetris. Yeah. It is immaculate. Scandinavian architect. Yeah. And then there's me and I just kind of throw it all in and it gets washed. Every so often there's a bowl flipped up the wrong way. you just tip that one out put it in the next cycle i'm a thrower too and vanessa vanessa who

is our video editor who also was my housemate for many years is looking at me like you fuckhead you haven't changed she is looking at me like i hate you and i hated living with you the amount of passive-aggressive text i would receive no but it's true there's always who packed the dishwasher today laura but if it was somebody Laura. Do you know there was this one time when Ness just collected all of the empty toilet paper rolls that were in the bathroom and put them in my bed I think. Guys the number of times. That's not even passive aggressive that's full out aggressive and I love it. No when I go to Laura's house still now I have to bring my own toilet paper because you will go into the toilet. There's

never toilet paper in our house. There is never toilet paper. Anyway I'm like how is there a house of five people here? What are you wiping your butts with? No do you know why because there is toilet paper it's just in the cupboard but we have two kids and also Matt so like none of them replace the roll when the roll gets empty so it's not until you're sitting you're sitting on the toilet no I do I just I just don't go as often as they seem to but it's not until I am sitting on the toilet and I'm like there's no toilet paper here I will shuffle across and go and get a roll but the problem is is I never take the cardboard empty roll off into the bin I just kind of put it on the floor and then put the other one on so like I am part of the problem I'm well aware but

Anyway, there's two types of people, people who do things correctly and people who don't. And I fall into the don't. I think I fall into the don't in most things, although I do replace a toilet roll. But for us, it was Anzac Day. So it was Friday morning and our flight was the really early one. So 6.15 was the time it took off. Check-in closes at 5.15, right? So we had a conversation the night before and it was the whole, like, what time do we

need to set the alarm? Yeah. How long do we need to get there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. International flight. And I was like, look, we don't live that far from the airport. you know, it's so early in the morning. There's not going to be traffic. The airport won't be busy. It'll be fine. I give myself just enough time, like not a minute more than what I think

in it because I value sleep and I want as much sleep as I possibly can get. So Friday morning comes around. The alarm goes off at four. We get up, quick shower, get dressed, go to order the Uber. It's Anzac Day. There's no Ubers. There weren't as many Ubers as I was expecting because People were getting them to dawn services. So I was like, oh, okay, that's slightly concerning. Anyway, as the time's ticking along and we're still waiting, you know, trying to connect you to a driver, trying to connect you, my boyfriend was getting more and more and more stressed.

We eventually get an Uber. We get to the airport. He is at the point where he is like heart palpitations. I can see the vein in his neck start pulsing. Like he's really starting to freak out that we are not going to make check-in. and I've realized over the course of time that I am the worst person in these situations because not only do I keep on pushing it further and further and further to the deadline of this is check-in I keep on having things happen where it reinforces that it's actually a fantastic thing

to do because when we got to the airport we had about probably 10 minutes until check-in was properly going to close yeah like you'll miss your flight what happens if there's a line you know what happens if there's all these other people blah blah blah he was freaking out we get there we did not have to wait for a single person so we just walked straight up to the counter it was the quickest check-in I have ever had it was the quickest run through security we got to the gate you know what happened as soon as we got to the gate they said boarding is about to start if you were in rows 1 to 15 can you please come to the front of the plane and I looked at him and I just when you can't risk that though that's the problem you can so my question is before an international

flight are you the person who turns up three hours before or are you the person who turns up with five minutes to go to check in until you will not be allowed to board the plane anymore I think the problem is though it depends on if you're traveling with someone else because it's okay to do it to yourself I am also you Keish I am a last minute galley and I'm sure that comes the person who's not replacing the toilet paper roll is also not getting to the airport on time but I'm like so long as I'm there just before boarding for a domestic so long as I'm there just before boarding of an international fine but my mum drilled into me as a kid three hours mate she was like four hours we would be there before check-in even open just to wait at the

airport so you've got to think when we grew up it was different because you didn't have as quicker like entry into everything the lineups were longer the systems weren't as quick so you you would get there three hours before and you needed those three hours but I'm like a mix now I'm both I will turn up with enough time but I'll still be the person that gets called on the overhead so I'll be there for two hours sitting there at a cafe and then I just lose track of the time and then they're like final call Brittany so I've been there with all the time in the world and I'm like what like the number of times Sherry and I have done that where we've been like sleeping on a cafe reading a book like just chilling out with so much time and then we get

a final call and we are running through the airport but do you think that couples like do you think that one of you is one way and the other is the other way and it always causes conflict I actually think that most the time we're attracted to people who have those slightly different traits to us like Matt is the organized one in our relationship and I am the chaotic one but you kind of can't have two chaotic people in a relationship together or shit just constantly goes wrong and I think that that is kind of a relatively normal relationship dynamic it's not because I actually don't necessarily agree with the whole opposites attract but I think we have complementary behaviors like you might have someone who's a little bit more risk-taking

a little bit more extroverted and those qualities work together yeah Matt is the admin person in our household and I am the like woo tell me where to be and I'll be there but I'll bring a good time there was one time actually and I was just thinking when we were kind of we went through a couple of minutes where he was a bit pissed off with me where he was like I know that it's worked out this time, but there will be a time that it doesn't work out. And that smug little smile on your face is going to vanish. The day will come where you'll miss a plane. Yeah, I've missed a plane. The problem is, is I once dated a guy who also was the type of person who was just shrouded in chaos

and he would also push things to the very nth degree. And we had a transfer to get from LAX back to Sydney and we missed our flight because we were both disorganized. And the solution to that was that we stayed in LA for two days and we went to Disneyland. So actually it worked out fine fantastic solution it was fine this is all a big plot all right everybody the time has come so now I'm worried that people are going to be disappointed when so many people ask for live shows and merch it's not actually podcast related no all right we already have merch it's still on the website yeah but it's not new merch you know and also it's not like new live shows which I know we look guys we were planning them and maybe there's a spanner so we'll see yeah we did have

big plans for the live show all right let's put this to bed I in fact can confirm I am not secretly married not yet no I can confirm that Britt and I are not entering a romantic relationship what else can we not confirm or confirm that it's not happening live shows live shows merch I didn't secretly move to Italy I'm back was there anything else that came through I haven't stolen Delilah and made her go through a forced custody arrangement and the dummy fairy did come and it hasn't worked out as well as I thought it would. So, like, that's also not the big news. All right, let's put everyone out of their misery.

But the big news is, so, you guys know that Matt and I have been talking a lot about whether or not we're going to have baby number three. Just say it! And it turns out that we're having baby number three. No, my things are not working! Yay! Oh, my God. It didn't work.

Yay! Shake, shake, shake. Shake, shake, shake. We have giant bottles full of babies. I'm pregnant, guys. Yay! I am very insane and it turns out that for a very short period, Matt and I got on the same page about whether we wanted.

Oh, my God. It's like you miss well. We've put a sash on you. It says mama to be. For the third time. For the third time. Yeah. Congratulations. Thanks guys. Yeah. I can't believe no one guessed that. No one speculated that. Well, I think not. Hold your bottle. I think people do consider whether or

not you're insane enough to have a third child. Like the reaction to number three is not the same to number one and number two. Number one and number two, people are thrilled. Number three, people are confused. And that seems to be the overwhelming reaction from everyone. No, what's going to shock people the most is probably not that you're pregnant, but now tell people how far along you are so I'm 18 weeks pregnant everybody even Matt we were talking about it and even he was shocked because he thought it was 13 weeks but yeah like you're nearly five months I'm 18 weeks well no because it kind of it's always interesting with pregnancy because you think four weeks is a month but actually it's not so like I'm 18 weeks I'm you

know two weeks shy of halfway but yeah I've been keeping a little secret for quite some time you've actually done really well but you've i think i haven't been able to tell it looks like you've had a big pasta until probably like the last two to three weeks you've really popped well also i mean look you're gonna you don't want to hold your baby sorry sorry for everyone that was a lot for anyone who wasn't watching this on youtube or on socials that was probably audibly very hectic keisha organized plastic bottles that are full of tiny plastic baby and it was yeah it's not the best for all year and also party poppers which were great mine didn't go off but we've used these party poppers before and statistically only 50% of them work I'm a bit disappointed in the party

popper to be honest it was great but not disappointed in the news I'm so excited about the news yeah and I would love for you to share like how did you and Matt kind of come to the decision to have the third how did you tell him so I mean I feel like I've talked about a little bit at the beginning of the year Matt and I were not on the same page he went through a period where he wanted to have a third then he decided he didn't want to have a third anymore and then it was like when he made the decision he didn't want to I changed my mind and I wanted to and so we kind of toxic it took so toxic it was like when he took it away from me I wanted it back yeah it's giving back into the bachelor days and then we did this dance for a while where like I

wanted it he didn't then he wanted it then I didn't and I kind of put it down to any time I was ovulating I was like baby and then I would not be ovulating I'd be like that's a terrible idea Anyway, there was a very small window where we were both on the same page. Yeah. And what window was that? It didn't help. So Christmas, it was Christmas time. Obviously, it's a Christmas miracle.

And Matt and I, obviously, for a couple of weeks, we were on the same page. And it was a really small window. But the thing that's even funnier is I've actually known for a really long time. I found out very early on with this pregnancy. It wasn't because I had any pregnancy symptoms, but it was because one of my friends had made a comment that made me think, oh, maybe I'll just do a pregnancy test. So you guys all know that Matt went and he was in the jungle and he was doing I'm a Celebrity. So he had just left and it was two days after his phone had been taken away from him and he was non-contactable. I don't

even know if you guys know this, actually. I don't think I've told you. I don't think I know this. I don't think I told you the specifics. So he'd had his phone taken off him. Two days I'd been without being able to contact him and I wasn't able to contact him the entire time that he was in the jungle. So, uh, one of my girlfriends was like, wouldn't it be funny if you found out you were pregnant when he's in there? She didn't really know that we were trying. And I was like, ah, that's actually a possibility. And I went and bought a full pack of pregnancy tests and I went home and my sister-in-law Kate and my mother-in-law were downstairs taking care of the kids. We were going to have dinner together. And I just so casually and so confidently that

I wasn't pregnant, walked up to the bathroom, peed on a stick. Like there was no consequences to my actions. And then I sat there and I was like doing something. And then I looked at the stick and I was like, is that a line? And I was like, that's true. Is that a line? And I walked downstairs and I just said to Kate and to Ellie, I was like, guys, sorry to interrupt you. Can I just get your eyes on something? Do you think that this is a double line to Matt's sister and mom? and they were like yeah and they they both were a bit beside themselves and then we just had to have dinner that night like everything was normal just the girls just the girls and then I wasn't able to tell Matt for ages so the whole time he was in the jungle I wasn't able to tell him

and then it was really tricky because I didn't want to tell him when it was the finale I didn't want to tell him as soon as the show because I don't know if you guys remember but the show wasn't filmed live this year so we were over there we did the finale over there maybe it now make sense as to why I so desperately wanted his business class seat. I was first trimester vomiting most days and traveling with the two girls by myself. So I was really struggling. To Africa. Yeah. I took the kids to Africa first trimester. Woo. Don't recommend it. But I didn't want to tell him there. And then when we came back, we had to wait for the finale because it hadn't aired on TV yet. And I didn't want to tell him until after all of the excitement

and all of the kind of craziness of I'm a Celebrity had ended. I didn't want to, a couple of reasons. I didn't want to take away from an experience that he was having and kind of like experience top it with another thing. And I also wanted him to have some time to process what a huge thing he'd just been through. So I didn't really know what was the right time to tell him. You waited so long.

I waited so long. He was mad at me. You're making it sound like you're like, I'll give him a couple of days after finale. Tell everyone how long you waited. So I knew for two and a half months before I told Matt that I was pregnant. Can you deal?

Hang on, how long did you wait from him coming out to you? Because a lot of that was out of your control. About a fortnight maybe, yeah, about a fortnight until I told him that I was pregnant. But it was tricky because he was not himself and he was having a bit of a hard time post-jungle and he wasn't very happy. like I actually confirmed that like we all saw Matt and he just didn't seem himself for a little

bit yeah he was stressed and he was distracted and I think anyone who's ever done a big experience like that when you've put so much mental energy into one thing you come out of it and you just spend all your time still thinking about the experience and so I could tell that yes he was physically here but his brain was still in the jungle that's all he was thinking about so I was like I just kind of want to give it some space between when that experience ended and like telling him something that I don't know how he's going to react to because I knew he was going to be really excited about baby number one and baby number two like Lola and Molly but then I kind of was a bit worried that maybe because we had fluctuated so much on our plans as to whether

we were going to or not going to I was worried that he was at a point where it wasn't what he wanted and so the reaction wasn't going to be as excited well didn't he I don't know what words in your mouth but just from what you've said didn't something happen just before you told him where he was like hey thank god we decided not to have a baby so it was only a couple of days after like it had finished in Africa and Matt said so I take it you're not pregnant and that was how he framed it and because I wanted to tell him in a way that was like a nice surprise or like tell him in a way that like a cute way felt a bit more sentimental I didn't know how to respond to it and so obviously I lied and I was like oh I was like yeah I mean obviously and then I doubled down really hard and

I was like because I've been thinking maybe it's not a great idea she was trying to throw him off the scent it just came out and then he was like yeah I've also been thinking maybe it's not a good idea and I was like fuck okay now what do I do so that's why I had to wait a while because I was like I've got to try and tell him it was a good idea and get him back on board so anyway it was like a couple of weeks passed by then obviously like his mum and his sister were both like you have to tell Matt and my sister also knew so there were a couple of people in our immediate family that knew before him and I ordered these scratchies online from Amazon so I don't know if anyone's ever seen them they're a gender reveal scratchy sorry this is really uncomfortable but your sash

looks so good my paper sack rattles a baby bottle so I bought these scratchies online and they're a hundred thousand dollar scratchies and one of the icons you've got to scratch every single icon and one of the icons says we're having a baby once you get to the icon. So how many icons are there? The problem is, is I bought the wrong one. He thought he got a hundred grand. Well, there are some Scratchies on Amazon that are really good where you scratch them and it's just one big icon that says

we're having a baby. This one was like 30 icons and you had to go looking for the we're having a baby one. And Matt has a very short attention span. So he got three quarters of the way through it and he's like, this is the fucking worst Scratchie, threw it away. And I was like, babe, it could be $100,000. Keep going.

I was like, persevere, keep scratching. keep scratching. And so that went on for a good 10 minutes of me telling him to keep scratching. He was just getting increasingly frustrated. That's quite anticlimactic. Yeah. Eventually he saw that we're having a baby. I'll post the video for you guys. Cause he just looks confused, but luckily one of his best friends, Josh, who was also the groomsman at our wedding, he was standing right next to Matt. And so Matt looks at it and he's like, what? And then you can tell that it's dawning on him that actually we're having a baby. And he hands it to Josh and Josh's reaction is the reaction that you would expect from the dad.

So Josh was stoked and that was really nice. He's like, thank you, Josh. Josh is the father now. Yeah, and so Josh and I having a baby. No, and Matt is actually so excited. I thought you were going to say, no, no, no, Matt is actually the father. To be fair, I'm 90% sure he's also the father. No, he's the father.

Do we need to do a paternity test? But the thing is, is like I think I just managed this in such a weird way and I think off the back of it being I'm a celebrity and everything, It was just such a fucking whirlwind of a time that I feel bad for him because I think that his reaction wasn't how he actually feels. He just kind of got set up for a bit of emotional whiplash. It is so funny when you have to, and I think this has happened to so many people, when you've had to tell a white lie

and then you get stuck in it and you've had to double down, all of a sudden weeks later you've doubled down on this lie that like you're not pregnant when you're four months pregnant. It's such a weird thing to get stuck in where you're like, oh, I guess I've got to commit now. Why? I was like two and a half months pregnant. but yeah yeah it was how does he feel now he's really stoked yeah he's really excited but i don't

know i would love to know if anyone else who's had a third child felt like this first child we were so excited about like marley we were so excited there was no concept of what's ahead yeah i mean we were definitely apprehensive and there was like you know anxieties and fears and all those normal feelings that surround pregnancy but we were like just really excited about being parents and like this new experience and chapter that we're entering together. And then Lola, when I was pregnant with Lola, it was the same excitement because Marley was such an easy baby. We always call her our unicorn baby because she always lulled us into this false sense of how parenting is just so easy. And so I had the same level of excitement around the time that I was pregnant

with Lola, but then Lola was like a really quite challenging baby. Like that first six weeks, especially I've spoken about it before, but I didn't get any sleep. I slept with her strapped to me like it was a really really challenging time for me and it was a fucking wake-up call around how hard parenting can be and so I feel like I'm going into this one with more meated excitement like it's excitement yeah but it's like cussed with realism you know and like a realistic perspective on parenting so and then I feel a little bit guilty because I'm like well am I supposed to have this like overwhelming oh my god the miracle of life when actually I just kind of feel a bit more pragmatic about this pregnancy it's a different feeling going from two to three

but I think that's normal because your experience is different now like when you're going to have your first child you don't have any other stresses at home now you're going into a third child with lived experience of both of like an easy baby and a hard baby you also know what it's like to not sleep but now you're having a third baby with two other children that take your time so I think it's probably normal for you to feel a bit of I don't know if you're feeling anxiety I don't know what you're feeling but it's normal for it to be a different experience it's like my rose-colored glasses around motherhood have been lifted and I think also because we're going from having a four and a five-year-old no nappies really self-sufficient like are able to do so much for

themselves we have great conversations you know Lola's starting school next year so like we're so out of the trenches of babydom and you're going back and now we're going all the way back and it's interesting because people like I said people react really differently about the third first and second everyone's super excited and third especially a lot of other mums their reaction is like you're fucking crazy I can't even comprehend having a third baby and I'm not saying it's not common loads of people have three kids but it's definitely not as common as what it used to be and I think that the perception is not the same and so people's reactions have been like oh my god so exciting but you're insane and so that also kind of changes your I don't know it casts

like a little bit of doubt around like was this a good idea are we crazy do you feel bad about that though like is there I guess these conversations come up every time we talk about any expectation that tend to be put on women and it's like this is supposed to be this really overjoyed and just the only thing you're ever supposed to feel in this moment is elation and gratitude and like this is the best thing that ever could have happened and I think that we've come a long way in kind of talking about you know we talk about things like gender disappointment now and like how sometimes when people have babies they don't get that natural and I'm putting that in quotation marks connection with their baby for a couple of weeks or months and like it's just not exactly

what they expected it to be is there a part of you that feels like oh I'm not feeling how I may be supposed to feel yeah and I definitely have had a few conversations with girlfriends about it that I feel a bit guilty that I don't have the same excitement as what I had for baby number one and baby number two and it's not because I'm not excited like I really don't want that to be misconstrued or for anyone to think that I'm not grateful like of course I have all those feelings but I have more apprehension about this one for some reason and I think it's just because I know what I'm in for I know it's going to be hard I've done it already and it's not that it's not joyous and all the other fucking amazing things that motherhood is but having really little babies

is really challenging and you give up a lot of yourself for that first year or two years you know to be there and to like just the constantness of carrying them around of like constantly having to do everything for them because they can't do anything for themselves there's so much joy in it but it is a very selfless thing that you have to do and and I guess life has gotten easy over the past couple of years because we have moved out of those trenches and I see it getting easier and I see the kids autonomously playing together and you know we can sit down for dinner and talk to each other and I know we're saying goodbye to all of those things that we've regained as a couple and so part of me is a little bit like oh my god and it is interesting to me that people feel so

okay with telling you that you're insane like you know it's very rare that no one's ever going to say to you when you have your first baby you're crazy but people are very very happy to say it about the third child and so I think other people's reactions to it have kind of made me be like oh that's an interesting everything about this has felt different to one and two everything I know loads of people, like loads of my friends have three kids. So I wouldn't let that bother you. I know loads of people who've had three kids too. It's not like, I'm not saying it's not common and I'm not saying that it's like so bizarre

or weird, but I'm saying there's a lot of people that choose to not move beyond two. I also wonder if it's because the gap between Marley and Lola is quite small and then the gap with this third baby is larger. And I kind of thought you'd put a bow on that and gone, yeah, that like, this is our family. This is how it's going to be. Obviously, I've spoken with you a lot about you thinking about having a third for probably two years now. It's been a conversation.

But I really would love to know how Lola and Marley May reacted. I waited pretty long to tell the girls for a couple of reasons. So I didn't want to tell them and have them telling everyone like how Marley did with I'm a Celeb. Everyone. So like the kids have no filter. And of course not. You know, they're so excited.

They're going to go to school. like Marley's been telling random people in the park actually she might even be listening there was a woman who was a lifer who I met down in Ulladulla we were at the park together and Marley just was like my mom's got a baby in her belly so my my friend came up to me last week I've told no one like I take this you know very seriously my friend comes up to me she goes so I heard there's a baby and I was like sorry what plain dumb she's like you know and I was like who they were like, Maura. And I was like, how did you know? She goes, well, my friend was at the park with her daughter and she's pregnant. Her friend's pregnant. And so her friend's daughter was just at

the park to a random, which turns out to be Marley. And the little girl's like, my mommy has a baby in her belly. And Marley goes, so does my mom. And so that daughter went and told the random woman, the woman told my friend and my friend told me. And I was in the park at the time. And I remember this unfolding because this other pregnant lady turned around and she was like oh my god you're pregnant and i was like look if it was ever going to get out to media i know the leak came from molly may she was so excited she told she's a rat she literally called the daily mail and was like my mom's having a baby printed on page one that'll be 10k so it's also the type of thing you don't want to tell her that it's this big secret because you don't want to make her feel as though it's not

something to be super excited about right that's a hard situation to navigate totally and and also So we told the girls, you know, Marley's a little bit older. She's been saying for ages that she wants a baby sister. Like she's been wanting like another sibling. Lola's not enough. She's like, I want a new one. Lola. Return, exchange.

I knew that Lola wouldn't be excited. Like I knew that she wouldn't, her first reaction wouldn't be excitement because Lola's initial comprehension of being like, oh, mommy's having a baby is I have to share mommy. And I'm like her favorite person in the world. She doesn't want to share me with anyone. If I'm, like, cuddling Marley, if I'm cuddling Dad, like, whatever, she gets super jealous.

So I am a bit worried about how she's going to be when the baby comes along, but I also think it's going to be good for her because, you know. It's like a dog where you're like, I don't know how they're going to react. I don't know how she's going to, well, she's like a child. So this is us telling the girls. Hopefully you can hear the reaction from both. Guess what Mummy and Daddy have to tell you.

What? You have to guess. You have to guess. How much is that trunk? we're not getting a monster truck guess what we're gonna get a tree we're not getting a table a toy it's something very special something that you guys will get to give a cuddle to A toy.

No. A toy from the dinosaur. Okay, I'll give you a clue. A toy from the dinosaur. It's in mummy's tummy. A baby. Yeah. No.

It's a baby. Guess what? I got a toy from the baby in the tummy. I'm getting out of here, Julie. Oh, she said I'm getting out of here. I'm getting out of here, actually. I'm getting out of here. I'm done.

I'm going to go, baby. Yay. You're going to be a big sister. Yay. I'm getting out of here, actually. Lola, are you excited? No. Oh, she actually left.

She left the building. Lola said, I'm getting out of here, actually, and she stormed off. Oh, my God. She's the funniest child I've ever met in my life. She's my, yeah, personality. higher I would really like to get a bracelet that says WWLD and it means what would Lola do so same that's our next merch so I went upstairs to Lola afterwards she was really upset she went and had time out locked herself in a room and I went up and I opened the door and I sat down on

the bed and I said what's going on are you okay and she just started crying and she said I don't want to share mommy she said you then you're going to love a little baby and you're not going to love me and that was her instant reaction was around feeling as though I have to spread myself between both children like more children three there'll be three yeah three children how many kids right now that was really sweet like that was really hard has she come around now she's completely come around so much so that I have one more bit of audio that I want to play you guys so much so that like I found a video in my phone so this is like a fear of mine my children watch me speak on Instagram and they will copy me. Obviously they don't know what

Instagram is. They have no understanding that the social media, but they think like mommy's talking to the phone, someone on the phone. So every so often Marley and Lola, they will take my phone, they will open the camera and they will video record themselves just chatting away about their day. Like it's like they're doing their own mini vlogs, but they don't go anywhere. So Lola was running around with my phone and I was like, okay, cute. And so I opened my phone to watch this video that she'd gone and taken on her own. And this is what made me realise that everything is going to be okay, apart from the fact that my child wants

to be on TikTok. Hi, everyone. I've got a baby in my mum's tummy and I'm so excited to give it out. So, so, so excited. So, how was your job? It was great. I love it.

And I'm so, so, so, so, so excited. So, I really like it to get a baby out, but it's coming out today. Not really, but I really want the baby to come out, but it's not. I want the baby to come out, but it's not coming out. It's not coming out. She sounds so pathetic. I really love it, but now I'm gone. I'm having trouble following, but I got that she's excited.

She's excited. There's a baby in my tummy. It's coming out today, but not really coming out, but it's not yet. And it's gone. What I'm hearing is that there has been a shift and it's gone from not being excited to being very, very excited. The kids are so stoked. They're both really excited.

Marley wants it to be a boy. Lola wants it to be a girl. Oh, so someone's going to be disappointed. Someone's going to be disappointed. But I kind of wanted to have, I mean, we'll talk about gender in a bit, but I really wanted to talk about the other thing that happens when you have three kids, but you have two with the same gender is that everyone expects you're going for a third for a boy so everyone who I've spoken to is like oh what do you want a boy and that's been like the assumption and I

really want to say like you look Matt and I are slightly different on it I think Matt would like a boy like we've had conversations and I think if he had a preference he would say a change of scenery would be nice and I think he's always envisaged himself as having a boy that's his version of fatherhood that he kind of pictured. However, for me, I do not care. Like I don't want to have a third child because I want a specific gender. I want a third child because I want to experience all of the incredible things that I've experienced with my kids. And, and I feel as though we're moving out of those phases and I'll never get to have them again. Something just didn't feel complete for me. That's kind of my biggest fear is like, I think that people think that if

we were to have a girl as a third baby that there would be disappointment and I want to say like for me I could not care less it probably has pros and cons as well because you've already got two girls you know how it works a third girl would fit into you know the sisterhood and it's five years different so I guess if you had a boy and it was it's a different sex to the other two so left out well yeah it's a big difference and to be different sex as well but I think that there'd be pros and cons to both and I can't imagine either of you actually care like as much as you could say you have a preference at the end of the day everyone just wants a healthy baby yeah are you gonna find out gender we are actually so look I mean you should ask that

here's a little bit of a scoop guys so we are actually gonna do if you're listening to this on Wednesday so like today if you set your alarm at 5 a.m as you were told to as the episode came out Matt and I because obviously Matt's having a conversation about us having a baby on two dad's because that's you know that's his audience that's where he can have the chat yeah it's kind of in the title. Yeah. And I'm, and I'm talking about it to you guys. Like we share everything about our lives. Well, not everything, but we share so much about our lives with you. And it's like such a privilege that you care enough to want to know about it. So Matt and I, we were talking about what we would do because up until this point, we've never found out gender before.

We've always found out at the point of delivery, whether we're having a boy or a girl, but this time Matt was like, I really want to know at the time. And when it all came down to like me telling him that we're having another baby I wanted him to feel really excited about it and so I kind of gave that over to him I was like okay well this baby we can find out and that made him like you know he was stoked so we are actually going to do it this afternoon you guys can listen if you want to we're going to do it on the pickup at three o'clock so we're gonna do it on radio I actually just got goosebumps this afternoon and live on radio we're gonna find out yeah me and Matt but also if you don't listen to radio don't worry I'll just tell you next episode it's fine or you can go

to my socials I'll tell you there as well I was about to say I feel very privileged that I get to find out at the same time as you and Matt but I was like it's not my privilege all of Australia is finding out I was like I'm so privileged but you're in the room you're in the room so we're gonna we're gonna find out together because you know obviously we will tell our family and stuff as well but like it didn't feel right to have the conversations in silo so we were like let's do it together and you know what it'll be fun so we're gonna find out this afternoon I feel so fucking weird about it I would prefer not to find out that would be my absolute preference I would love to just I love the surprise I think it's such a special moment in birth and I feel like like

it's the reward for the hard work is kind of how I felt like finding out who this person was that's been in me this whole time whereas like I know it's important to Matt so I'm happy to do it this time around yeah and you got two surprises so it's okay I mean but also I've done every birth so I feel funny that you'll probably continue to do the bird thing I've done a hundred percent of the birth so far so i feel like that was mine to have but you know i'm happy to make the concession i do feel like because a lot of couples argue about if you want to find out like when one person wants to and one person doesn't i do think it always comes down to the fact that the mother gets to overrule and gets the final decision because you are the one sacrificing everything you're carrying

it your body's changing your hormones you've got a breastfeed you've got it's got to come out of your vagina like or the top or the hood well what you know what i mean like it's all you it is all you so at the end of the day there isn't an argument and also speaking of that like third pregnancy all the things that you experience in first and second pregnancy just happen earlier like your body changes so well for me anyway I'm sure everyone's different but your body changes so quickly and like all of the things that didn't hit me until I was like 24 weeks or 26 weeks with the other two just happened sooner and I think it's maybe because like gravity and like I'm older I'm considered geriatric pregnant.

Actually, I was considered a geriatric pregnancy last time. Years ago, yeah. But I'm 39. I feel like they need to change the parameters. I know. I didn't walk into my appointment with a Zimmer frame. But 39, the reaction from the obstetricians around age-related birth has been. It's different.

It's been different. They were really chill when I was 35 having a baby. They didn't seem to like take it as seriously. And I never, I mean, it's up to everyone's own personal preference, but I never had the NIPT test done with Mali or Lola was just my preference. I had the nuchal fold test done, which is like when they look for genetic abnormalities based on the structure of the baby, but I never had a chromosomal test done on them either. And this time it was really pushed as though it was something that was a priority. So I kind of felt like there's been more systems

that have been put in place and been really kind of like, okay, you should do this to make sure that you're aware of like everything that's going on. And also with Marley, Marley was 42 weeks. So she went over by two weeks and my obstetrician was like, you are absolutely not going over. You will have a baby at 38 or 39 weeks. So I know that it will be end of September unless I come super early, but that's never been the case for me. But I think as you get older and as you're having pregnancies as you know, 39, 40, whatever it looks like for you as an individual, they take it more seriously because there can be more complications that arise. Well, I mean, it's statistically proven that you do have more go wrong with babies as you

get older. And that's why miscarriages increase. Things just change. And it's not anything personal against somebody. It's just your, it's biology. It's just what happens. It's also with sperm as well. Like advancing paternal age is a risk factor for certain genetic conditions too.

And no one ever speaks about that. They only ever talk about the fact that as the woman gets older, there's all these complications. Do you know, it's so, I was, I mean, look I don't get all my information from social media but I saw a reel recently which was all about like the epigenetic coding of male sperm and the impact that that has on women and it was around this guy being like men should get into the best shape of their lives nine months before they get a woman pregnant and that there has been links of like sperm has an impact on miscarriage rate on whether a woman ends up having preeclampsia there is such a more defined link to the sperm

than what anyone ever knew before and everyone always just thought it was like completely the woman's body completely the woman's like responsibility but actually they've realized that there's so much dna that is responsible for the impact of the pregnancy and also the quality of the birth experience of the mother so yeah if your partner's fucking drinking and smoking and not taking care of himself but you're trying for a baby tell him to pull his head in for sure actually speaking about physical complications the last episode that we released you spoke about the fact that you had a cyst on the other side yeah the cyst first yeah yeah how did that impact what came first, the chicken or the egg? Yeah. So the cyst was already there. And I, like I said,

I've had it since September last year. However, it's been fluctuating in size and it had decreased at Christmas time. So I had had a scan done at Christmas time. And I guess the part of that story that I wasn't able to tell you until now. So I'd had this scan at Christmas time, it had decreased in size. And then after I found out I was pregnant, part of the reason why I wanted to do a pregnancy test was because I kind of felt a bit uncomfortable, but I didn't realize it was because my cyst was back and it was bigger than it had ever been. So what had actually happened is when I ovulated, the time that I ovulated and got pregnant from it, the ovulation bled straight into the cyst. And so it was a by-product of getting pregnant. But the problem

was, is that I now had like an 8.5 centimeter cyst that was just floating around at the same time that I had a developing baby, which can be okay for some people, or it can cause really bad complications if it doesn't resolve itself but the issue around surgery so if you have a really really big cyst often surgery is the option the problem is is that if you have gotten pregnant and that is your ovulating ovary that ovary is responsible for creating the placenta and creating all the things that the baby needs to be viable so you can't so they can't remove it until the end of second trimester oh wow that would have been so stressful yeah and even then it's really complicated. So it added a layer of complication. Basically the obstetrician was like, we can't do

anything. You do just have to wait and see. And if there's torsion, it would have meant complications, not just for the ovary, but also for the baby. So I'm so lucky that that has just kind of like spontaneously resolved, not completely, but resolved enough that like my ovary is not at risk now. So it's something I'm going to have to deal with after the baby's born. And it might be something that they do in tandem, depending on what happens. Like I might have the baby and then they might go and remove the cyst at the same time yeah so we'll find out oh one stop shop yeah i can snip down there snip up here i was like can you give me literally i was like can you do the whole thing and he was like not until six months after and do the nose job while

you're there if it's designed to be fair though guys this is too much information but i'll tell you anyway my vagina got so fat so fat when i was pregnant with lola like it was humongous humongous you've already told us that so no one's shocked by that yeah yeah is it fat now it's fucking started little cushion down there i'm only 18 weeks and it's already started it just gets huge swollen it's like yeah i need some lymphatic drainage happening but it just just drains straight into my vulva can you get like a lymphatic vaginal massage is that a thing i think that i don't think i could walk in and specifically ask for it i feel like the therapists might be a bit confused i don't what are that pelvic floor physios and stuff i don't know i don't think they

massage the labia we'll find out there's so many weird things that happen to your body during pregnancy though that people don't talk about like people always say like oh you're glowing and it's a lie you get melasma your nipples go dark your nipples get long you get a weird line on your belly you get hairy but it's the most beautiful time ever you look amazing you I'm calling bullshit on that one we before you even told us you were pregnant I remember complimenting you so much i was like your skin is amazing what did you do i just thought you were tired i had just had profilo i literally just gotten around botox and profilo just before i got pregnant probably shouldn't say that but i don't recommend it just worked out timing wise

well one of the only other things i really want to talk about is because you guys have kind of been along the pregnancy and pregnancy loss journey of mine over the last few years and we've had a kind of like a pattern to our pregnancies thus far we had pregnancy loss then we had Marley yeah I had another pregnancy loss then we had Lola and so I think it's actually taken me a really long time to get my head around that you know hopefully this one is going to stick I really honestly think for a very long time I just assumed that I would have a miscarriage this time around like before you got pregnant again yeah and I think that that also is a reason why I don't think I felt the same level of excitement you know it's just I think anytime you have a

pregnancy after pregnancy loss in general, every time it kind of just erodes your sense of security in a pregnancy. Has that gone away now? And if it has, at what point did it go away? It doesn't ever completely go away for me, I don't think. Until the baby's born. Yeah, it really doesn't. And I feel a slight lack of attachment to my pregnancies in general, even though I can say that there was excitement and everything else. I feel a lack of connection. I know that some mothers feel this real deep connection with their unborn child and it's a seems like it's a beautiful experience I feel a little bit alien to it and I think that that might be mental self-preservation I don't know I think it's really just your brain goes into like okay yeah and I think I am just

naturally quite a realistic and pragmatic person at times and so I'm like okay not going to be driven by the emotion going to be driven by like the reality of the possibilities yeah and you've had the lived experience you can't when you've lived something and you know it can happen to and you know how it feels you can't just ignore it yeah it's always going to be in the back of your mind absolutely but anyway guys that was um i don't know if there's much else to share oh god sorry can we be selfish and talk about us and tell everyone how you told us no what does it mean for us how did you tell us how did i tell you guys look there is actually a really big conversation that we want to have because obviously brit it involves you heavily every other time i

have been pregnant and I mean miscarriages or pregnant and it's been a success like the four times prior that I've been pregnant Brit you have known before I've told Matt yeah like I have told I have told you crazy like I told Brit literally the day I found out especially the baby after Marley which was really close like I think I was pregnant like 10 11 months after Marley was born like it was a same year crazy crazy close well no it was still pregnant same year with Lola but this was like three months prior to Lola yeah so I think Marley was in like nine months I told you and then I hadn't so like I told Matt and it was only a couple of days later after I told Matt that I miscarried but Britton knew for like weeks prior to me telling Matt which I'm sure he's

thrilled to know that now sorry Matt what the fuck but this one felt different and and it felt different because obviously you are in a very different place with your wanting to have kids and fertility and the conversations that we've had around IVF and everything else so I had this real fear around telling you and it upsetting you yeah or it telling you and it feeling as though it wasn't going to be received as good news because I know that and you know we have had so many conversations around how you can be happy for a friend and be sad for yourself and I guess I felt like this time it needed to be treated with more care and more consideration yeah which is also a double-edged sword because it makes me appreciative that you would even

consider that but it makes me upset that you would think that I it would not be received well that I would not be happy for you like that to me makes me more upset to think that a friend can't share something her happiness oh you're still one of the first people I told so it's not but you know what I mean it's a funny feeling because that upsets me more being like wow I hate that my friends feel like I won't be able to separate those two I think the difference in this is and I know what you're saying because often for example like if you have had pregnancy loss or you don't have a baby you don't get invited to the baby showers you don't get invited to the birthday parties and people assume that it's they don't want to deal with your discomfort and know that

in my situation and in our situation it's not that I just knew that this time it needed more sensitivity and it needed more consideration whereas last time and the time before i just told you the day of it didn't matter it was it was reckless and careless because i didn't have to care because you didn't care but knowing now when you have friends who deeply care and who are going through their own experiences it's important to approach it in a way i think that is considerate and is sensitive and also yeah i kind of wanted to like figure out how i was feeling about everything and an idea of like well how does that impact also because we you know we're best friends but we're also business partners in this as well so we want to do a whole episode which we will do in

the next little bit yeah because it's complicated and it's this it's so multi-faceted and multi-layered it's definitely not something that you can we can throw into an episode now and it's not something I would want to talk about now either because it does come attached with some confusing emotions and I think this emotion right now for you is happiness and this episode is excitement and happiness. And there are conversations that we will have in the future about this conversation because I know there are so many of you listening now that are on my side of the fence

and there are people on Laura's side of the fence. And when I say fence, I don't mean like opinions. I mean where you're at in life. Like some of you are going through it not successfully and you have friends that are going through it successfully and there's people on both sides of that fence. So I think it's important that we do talk on both. Yeah. And I think the big conversation that we want to have about that, which will be its own episode is around like, how do you have those conversations and how do you hold space for someone who's living a very different experience? And what does that look like? Because you are always, and as women, we are always going to have different periods of life where we're not able to be on the same page as our friends. And it's not just you, Britt. Like I have other friends who are going through, who have been through some really, really challenging fertility issues.

and and it feels different being like hey I know you're struggling with this I'm having my third that feels careless and like it's not very thoughtful so like I guess we really wanted to have that conversation broader and be like okay well how do you navigate this when you want to you know talk about something that's so exciting for you but also do it with care and also the other side of the coin I remember Chloe Fisher speaking with you guys about this and Tanya Hennessy more recently on Life Uncut is the emotions that the person who is receiving the information experiences as well not in terms of like the complexity of it in terms of the fact that they can feel really bad about how they actually feel in response to that and the duality of it yeah

yeah living with the duality perfect way to sum it up I would love to kind of do a bit of a deep dive on that at some point and like you guys said another episode and I think it would be really really important conversation it's also just the age we're at it's so prevalent now because of the time frame we're at so all of when you said you've got a lot of other friends going through it it's because that's where we're at in our life, you know, like we're in our mid to late thirties where it's, if people haven't had kids yet, now's the time they want it. But it's also now's the time that you realize that maybe you do have issues with falling pregnant or, you know, in this, in the last 18 weeks of me knowing that I'm, or 17 weeks that I've known that I'm

pregnant, I've had friends who have had miscarriages. I've had a friend who's had a baby who has had and has been through some of the most challenging fertility issues I have ever known someone to experience. And so, you know, I think that this pregnancy felt different for those reasons because like my experience and my exposure to it is different now. Whereas like when I was 35, I was the first person that I knew that it had a miscarriage. I didn't know anyone else. So like, it's a very different experience. I reckon that actually should be something that every single one of us, as in, I'm talking about you listening, we should actually be so proud of ourselves because that has shifted so much in the last couple of years. I think our ability to

recognize the emotions involved in situations like this. I now see when people have pregnancy announcements on social media that it's like, Hey, you know, I understand that this could be a really complicated thing for someone. If you want to mute me, like all of those types of things, I think we have actually come such a long way in being considerate of how other people experience it differently. And I think that's a really beautiful thing. Like that's, we constantly talk about the ways in which society is fucked. And I think that that is one of the best ways that we have actually evolved into being considerate. Yeah, completely.

And, you know, it's a really interesting thing because, like, I think about, like, this whole concept of motherhood and, like, if you had asked me in my 20s if I was going to have kids, and I've said it before, I didn't even know if I wanted to have kids. I never had this deep maternal pull. I never felt. How do you feel now? She's still figuring it out.

I'm not sure. I just never had it. I never had it. And it wasn't until I became a mum that I felt as though a door opened for me. and it is an experience that I have loved so deeply and I love being a mom and I love my girls and I know I complain on here about it sometimes but like it's literally the best thing that ever happened to me and I guess for me you hear so many horror stories about how hard parenting is you hear like and it had to happen the pendulum had to swing so that women who were challenged by motherhood

and who find it incredibly hard had a voice and felt comfort in that but I also think sometimes that the pendulum swung so far in the opposite direction that we don't hear about how great it is and how how fun it is and how actually you can discover a whole new identity in motherhood your life doesn't just stop work doesn't just dry up you know your sense of self doesn't just disappear but like you kind of become a new version of yourself and that's what I have felt motherhood has been for me and I fucking love it so like when I think about it in that respects I get really excited because I'm like well he's a whole new human that I get to meet and who's gonna be like this cool little person who's gonna scream at me and treat me like Lola does

I have one more thing so on the weekend I was talking with my friend Sophie shout out so if I know that you listen you're a big lifer and I was saying oh there's gonna be a really exciting thing coming on Wednesday and she was like what is it and I hand on my heart I kept it a secret I was really proud of myself for not sharing I was like you just you gotta wait you gotta wait and she was Like, the podcast isn't ending, is it? Oh, my God, that's a bad secret. We would never hook that as an announcement. Well, stay tuned this week for a tutorial podcast.

Brittany and Laura are unemployed. Come the third baby, Life Uncut will not cease to exist. There'll be some minor adjustments whilst the birthing in the early days, but, like, the podcast is still here. We will livestream from the birth, so you guys are going to be a part of it. You guys are more concerned than I am. No, no, I'm not concerned about it at all. I actually am not concerned in the slightest.

I wanted to put the listeners at ease so that they don't feel as though it's going anywhere. Oh, my God, guys, I thrive in chaos. Throw more on my plate. I do feel like it's going to be slightly more stressful than the other two times because there are two other children now. Like there's three children, but we're ready for that. I am the most supported that I have been this time.

So the last two times it was COVID. There was no support. I had no childcare. I had nothing, and I still managed to do what I did. This time I live with Matt's mom. you know we are very very fortunate that we are able to afford child support and you know both my other kids will be in school I actually feel the most confident about going into this birth and I what I did in the last time and so you know obviously like I'll have a couple of weeks off

I'll have a baby I'll come back and tell you about it like it's not the podcast isn't going anywhere nothing else changes this big news doesn't stop anything I think you should be really proud of that though because you put the systems in place you know like you've got the support systems in you have multiple businesses you've got amazing people in each of those that it takes a village right and you've got the village but we're also lucky that this job as a job it can be done from anywhere so if there's a bad day delivery room well it's like if there's a bad day and you need to be like hey we need to do it from home today we can do it from home we've got equipped like that's the we're blessed in the fact that we have a job that is mobile like that it's not like you've

got to turn up to a nine-to-five at a storefront obviously it's better here if you can come into a studio but like we are very lucky that we can do this anywhere at any time let me know if you want me to podcast from the delivery suite because i'll do that for you guys we are absolutely not if you want me to take life if you want me to take a roadcaster in because i'm going to be in juice i'm going to have six hours of laying there with an epidural in my back i'll tell you all about it you can get some audio content we'll get a couple of room to do your epidural and it can be a whole family affair yeah fuck it i'll come in do you want to come in you can come in guys It's crowning.

This could be a podcasting first. We could literally podcast live from my birth. If you want to do it, I'm not scared. It's the third one. I don't care as much. I've always wanted to see just how long the long labia is, so I will come in to do it. The first two felt really special.

The third one, I'm like, I've done this twice now. This is an old rodeo. I'm going to cough that baby out, so I'll podcast it live. If Matt will let me come in, I will come in and podcast live. Do we need to have these kind of mics or do I have to just put one of the lapel mics on? No, you don't have to hold. You can have a lapel.

You can imagine one of us standing there with one of the mics that you hold like a boom mic. They're too echoey. I hate those. Anyway, guys. I love that that's the problem. The mic's too echoey. No, we're happy for you.

Congratulations. Yeah, we've got another little team member joining. Next year's tour bus for Life Uncut is going to need some extra baby seats. But make sure you guys tune in to the pick-up this afternoon because we're doing the live gender reveal. We're going to find out what baby you've had. And if you're listening to this late, you'll already know. Yeah, if you're listening to this late, just go to my Instagram.

You'll probably know anyway. Guys, thank you so much. I am so excited. And so, like, yeah, I love being able to share this stuff with you. We've shared everything along the way. And, yeah, this is like the next chapter. I just can't take you seriously with your mother-to-be stash on. I feel like you're like, world peace.

That's what I feel like it's giving. Do you know what I'm devout about? You know what I will say I'm devout about? What? I was looking so forward to it and I was telling so many people. I actually said it to Keisha. I said, I can't wait for the wedding. I was like, Laura is going to get lit before I knew I'm pregnant.

I was like, Laura is going to be so litty at my wedding. I was like, she loves a margie. I've got margs on the menu for her. I fucking love a margarita. She put them on the cocktail menu. For you, specifically for you. Because I hate them. Actually, fuck it.

I'm taking them off. I'm calling my wedding planner. They're off. I'll show you. Can I just say, guys? We get nargaritas. I know. Make me a booze-free one.

It's such a privilege to be able to share it with you guys. So thank you for always coming along for, like, the journey of what we experience in life. The journey of life. You know, and, yeah, you guys have been there for all of it. So it means a lot. Keisha, let's see your belly again. If you actually, if you have this early at my wedding

and take away my limelight with a baby, I'm going to be, I'm joking. Britt, if I have this baby early, it'll be very unwell. So I think that it's not about the limelight. It's probably about me being in the ICU ward. Okay, guys, it was a bad joke. Don't have to take it so seriously. All right, see ya. anyway guys that is it from us if you love the episode please don't leave a bad review on that

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