Life Uncut - What 3 Year Old Needs Skincare??

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

Hey Lifers,Britt is struggling today. She’s come down with an illness and we are rolling the dice today.Laura’s on her first outing without Poppy at 6 weeks old and she’s learnt that she’s not the most considered or prepared parent.  Laura and Keeshia have both been sent beautiful cards from listeners and we truly do have the best listeners in the world. However, Britt has checked with reception and nothing. No deliveries for Britt 😂 Britt had a sleepover at Keeshia’s house and has used products that were not meant for her.Is Oasis men’s Taylor Swift? The whole team was meant to go to the concert on the weekend but Keeshia ended up being the only one to make it and she’s never seen more affection or love be shared between millennial/Gen X men and she’s even been to football grand finals! The other day Britt shared how a friend of hers had accidentally text the guy she had been briefly dating instead of her friend telling him that there were "no hot men on the plane" and that she was disappointed. We asked what you accidentally sent and your stories did not disappoint! Shay Mitchell has launched a new children’s skincare brand called Rini that makes products like sheet masks for… 3 year olds. Shay has said that it was inspired by her own girls wanting to do ‘what mummy does’ with her face masks and that “Rini isn’t about beauty it’s about self-care.”We speak about whether we are living in the final stage of capitalism where children’s unblemished skin is an untapped market and the conditioning of beauty standards in kids. At what age do you think kids should be introduced to skincare beyond sunscreen and gentle cleanser? You can watch us on Youtube Find us on Instagram Join us on tiktok Or join the Facebook Discussion Group Hosted by Britt Hockley & Laura Byrne Produced by Keeshia Pettit Video Produced by Vanessa Beckford Recorded on Cammeraygal Land Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! XxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Can I just read you this one message first? I messaged Ben and I said, I feel so sick. I just want a hug. Sad face. And he goes, I'm hugging you with all my tentacles. Like a squid. Do you want me to hug you? I hate it.

No, it doesn't do what it should do for me. I'm a bit like, I love you guys, but I hate it. Turn it off. And he sent three octopi, octopussies. Do we call it an octopi or an octopus? That's a million dollar question, Lauren. No one actually knows the answer. I think it doesn't.

I think it's just octopi. It's just an octopus. Octopuses. I don't know. Octopussy. Octopi. What's the plural? It's not octopi.

It's octopuses. It's octopuses. Have you seen the octopuses? It's not octopuses either. No, it's not. Octopuses, apparently. The most widely accepted plural for octopus is octopuses, while some may use octopi.

The Greek derived octopodes or octopuses. Octopus eye. Octopus eye. Cut it. Edit. Delete. Let's go home. Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Live Uncut.

I'm Laura. I'm just hanging on. Yeah, Brittany. But I'm also Brittany. Britt sends this message today. Oh, I thought. Oh, that's rough, man. That's rough, man.

That's rough. I'm feeling down already. It's just to give context. No one needs the context. I was going to play it off like everything's fine. I don't even know if I'll make it in. I've tried to leave the house three times and I have to run back to the toilet. I'm trying.

I feel fine for like a few minutes. Dum, dum, dum. You've been here and you're holding on. Because there's nothing left in me. Yes, guys. I wasn't going to talk about it, but here we are. I got gastro. Is that what needs to make the podcast content?

I do want to say we really are rolling the dice. I'm here without Poppy. It is my first outing out of the house without her since she was born. I mean, the kid's only six weeks old. We're not sure where she is. No, I have a wonderful babysitter who came and she's just taken her for a walk around. She's doing laps around the block. Because we're actually in the city, but not even city, city.

There's nothing really around. She's doing laps around the block and I am keeping a very safe distance away from you so that I can be back in full fledge on this podcast. And no one come at me. Yeah, they should. We're metres away from each other. We don't like each other, so we don't touch. We don't make out.

We're not making out anymore. We spend so much time together, it's weird when we hug. And I have sanitiser here and everyone gets a bit. Yeah, I also just sprayed Brittany with sanitiser like it was perfume, so I think we're fine. She put my eyeballs. I think we're good to go. I just want to add, I mean, you know, I know that I said,

and I've mentioned this a couple of times, I did really say that I was going to have a more considered maternity leave this time. you never said that I did I was like you know if I have number three I'm gonna do it different I knew you were lying I did it the same I did it exactly the same if not probably worse to be honest we were like she's not having at all yeah we're not but I also do think that number three makes you like the most casual parent like I am so relaxed I am so casual sometimes like where's the baby oh she's there she's fine put someone put the brake on the pram like I am just that's

joke everyone that is a joke no like she lives somewhere relatively flat and i actually live on a hill she lives on a real stick live on a big hill how do you feel now as you said you said it was your first time away from poppy no i do outing to be fair so danny who is a she's been our babysitter since the girls were born like since marley was born so i've known danny for six years very selfishly having her own kids and she's yeah she arrived today with her own baby and she was like just she's got poppy in the pram and she's just wheeling her around the block for a couple of hours I do feel weird being without her and I feel as though I miss her but when I say casual I mean I am just like the most relaxed parent all the stuff that gave me anxiety I don't have

anymore like the weird sounds at night time and like the overpacking or like the planning and I say this as someone who I left the house you definitely don't overpack every day you've come in you're like fuck forgot the wipes fuck forgot to nap like every day you're not you're not packing not overpacking okay so I left the house to do some errands on Friday like just passed and it was like a day of errands so like left the house I had to come wait did I come to North Sydney who knows who cares it's not important I drove around it literally was like from one errand to another errand to another errand and like so she'd done a you know and kids when they're six weeks old they're shitting and weeing all the time right it's just like Brittany

so just like Brittany today so she'd done a couple of you know well she hadn't had any blowouts but she'd had a few nappy changes anyway she'd been in the car seat and I could hear her like I was like oh that's gonna be a good one anyway I get her out of the car seat and she has done like a full blowout all up her back all over her onesie everywhere and so I was like okay so it's a onesie change so I strip her off and I do this in the boot as well that's like my change table when I'm on the go and anyway I'm quite far away from Bondi so I strip her off in the boot and I go to my handbag to get my onesie out that I of course I packed it because I'm like a really thorough parent who packs lots of things then you realize you didn't put the handbrake on the car

no and then i yeah that goes down the baby in the car rolled away anyway that's why i'm here with comprehensive insurance that's why i'm here without poppy today everyone that's the end of the story it's terrible okay so i go to my bag i open it up no onesie and i was like oh damn it baby's gonna have to just travel around in a nappy today go to get the nappy no nappy no nappy no onesie i had her wrapped in a swaddle like baby jesus for an hour and a half just that's okay just like kumbaya with my baby literally in just a tiny swaddle lucky it was a slightly warm day did she poo again she weaned she didn't poo but i just was i was like why is my child naked in a car seat this is too much you've always wanted to be an earth mother i really am i grounded her i

laid her in the grass you are so far from an earth mama sorry you are not an earth mama no i think I'm just disorganized chaos I don't know if it gets any better from here and so then this morning I was like I'm gonna pack which means I over packed I packed like an entire box of nappies why don't you just leave some in the car yeah that's why I did I put the whole box in which means that in probably about a month I'll run out again and then I'll be without nappies well there's there's something that happened to me last week Brit that I'm sorry that you're feeling bad because I planned on doing this that when you were feeling normal so now I kind of feel like I'm maybe kicking you a little bit while you're already down so two days ago if you listen to

the start of Ask Uncut, you would have seen that Laura got a beautiful gift from Hayley, one of our lifers. Lovely lifer. Hayley, we love you. Honestly, it was the only thing I had in my car that day, thank God, because I hadn't taken it out of the car after the record. So she had no pants on, but she was wearing a cute jumper for a six-month-old. That had a P embroidered on it, right?

This was a gift, just to bring you up to speed in case you missed it. One of our beautiful lifers sent a gift for Poppy in the mail. she sent it to work and it wasn't the gift so much it just had the most gorgeous card that came with it that meant a lot to us or to me so I read it out on Ask Uncut. Well speaking of beautiful cards last week I actually went to our hairdresser I've adopted this hairdresser Alex from Brit he's fantastic and as I went to leave he's like oh my gosh hang on wait there I've been keeping this for you for weeks one of my clients asked me to give you this gift she obviously knows that you come here and that she loves the podcast and and he handed me this beautifully wrapped card

and this little present and so I brought it in and it said it's this gorgeous card and it says just a little note to say thank you for being brave enough to share your experience for the purpose of helping others I feel teary reading this cloud is incredible and it has changed my life you're amazing keep going and she's put a heart with her name I'm not sure because it's an ADHD podcast I'm never sure whether to like be like this is the person who sent it but just a first name and then she also gave me this little key ring of a cloud oh that's so gorgeous is that the most beautiful thing is there a ritalin in there what did she send in there yeah if you snort the card you'll get some dexamphetamines up there oh but i just thought it was so lovely

and she just left it with him because she knew it would make its way to me we've got the best lifers we do well you don't sorry no no has anyone has anyone checked reception here today Do I have any pending gifts? No, I'm really happy for you guys. It must be really nice to get gifts from lifers. I wouldn't know, but I can only imagine that it's a special feeling. And just out of curiosity, why the fuck aren't I doing anything? Oh, dear.

I know we said it last week. We'll say it again. We do feel very privileged to have you all and we love our community. I'm also joking. I don't need anything. Britt loves you as well. So if anyone wants to send a card to Britt. No, Britt, remember how you got.

You did get a delivery. Everyone knows that Britta's obsessed with chicken nuggets and one of our lifers sent her plush size, I don't even know, they're like 30 centimetre assortment plush size of chicken dinosaur plushies. It was actually for Delilah though. I kept one. I gave one to the girls. It was like Delilah's favourite toy for ages.

I went to Keisha's house last week and I was like, this is, it's the wrong episode, but this is my vibe. Adult sleepovers. We had an adult sleepover. I still live in Sydney. I didn't need to stay there, but I made a choice to. We had a wonderful time. But Keisha, what I want to say, I think you need to do some rearranging at your house.

So I, it was like a hotel, right? She's like, the feng shui's off. This comes off the back of the first time you had a sleepover. You were like, oh, I get why you're so obsessed with sleep recommendations now. Because, sorry. The bed's amazing. I've got it dialed. I've absolutely got it dialed.

My whole sleeping environment is great. But now you're telling me I've got some feng shui that's off. It's not feng shui. It's not that. That's why I keep coming back for sleepovers now. The bed's, I'm just like, I'm just going to pop over for a sleep, Keisha. The bed's really comfy. But I got toast delivered to – she made the toast.

She made my coffees. The bed was amazing. She tucked me in. She plugged my phone in. It was like – I was giving it like a five-star – I was like, this is a five-star hotel until I went to the shower. So I'm in the shower. It's great pressure.

It felt nice. You've got a lot of great products on the windowsill. It's always nice having a shower in someone else's shower. You can use all their things. So all these products lined up. Like their loofer in places you shouldn't. I loofered my vagina. Just loofer your butt crack.

put a hanger back up no one's gonna know but then as I was you it is cool right because everyone has so many different products lined up in their shower so Keisha's whole she had like a side window and there was so many products some of them were like medical based because I could see that obviously her partner's a doctor I was like he's chosen that one for sure it was like whatever anyway I was like oh what am I gonna use and then she was that fancy rich girl that had Aesop in there and I was like oh nice so there's an Aesop pump so I'm like I'm going for the Aesop so I start pumping and I'm like something doesn't wash my body I'm like something doesn't feel right now this Aesop was amongst all the other condiments shower condiments and then I swivel it around

and it's dog shampoo she has dog shampoo amongst her body wash in the shower I do too to be fair do you yeah because I wash my dog in the shower and no one else is showering in there so I know which one is the dog shampoo oh no I think the difference is the fact that it's Aesop because i would never you guys know i'm a tight ass there is no sorry to asap it's expensive as fuck there is no way that i'm spending that money not only on shampoo for myself but definitely not for the dog that's about to go and roll in mud two seconds later my partner he has these moments of being real bougie like he's really specific and particular if he likes something he likes it and he will order it on repeat so he won't buy it for you but he'll buy it for the dog yes i was

equally offended and I was like she doesn't need Aesop she was found on the side of the road Keisha that doesn't mean she doesn't need Aesop means she needs it more she deserves this how did you go with your Aesop shampoo no it lathers no ticks off leaves today I'm thriving and I was like move you mate I've just washed myself I didn't have time to rewash myself I had to fly stop using my Aesop it's really expensive now I smell like Bonnie I smell like your dog well after you sleep over Brit I ended up going to Oasis we were going to go together but you ended up not being able to come I know devastated I also was supposed to go but then I thought that taking Poppy to an Oasis concert was like too much next level cash I actually saw people there with a baby that was

proper newborn it had the headphone things on but I did think it was an interesting choice I was pretty keen on go like as in like I was committed and then I think it was so Oasis was on Friday night and about Wednesday my wonderful husband sat me down and had like just a light kind of conversation with me around intervention yeah he did yeah like let's call it an intervention let's call and an intervention he was like uh firstly doing a lot more work than you said you were going to so that's okay gonna support you in all the ways i can but also oasis seems like an unnecessary commitment why are you going on a boat trip to oasis and i was like i don't really know he's like do you know any songs and i was like you're my wonder what one that big song

and i think they played that last you'd have to go for like five hours so yeah he He was like, I don't think that taking a six-week hold to Oasis is a good idea. So I'm glad you went. I had a brilliant time. Just wanted to say I do have a slightly controversial opinion that will probably get me some heat, but I feel like it was like a cultural moment.

I feel as though I've never seen that amount of people be so excited. And I actually heard Zara from Shameless talking about this last week because she went in Melbourne the week before, and she was talking about how much female performers have to do. Like it has to be a production. You know, like pink swinging from the acrobat things. Taylor Swift has so many costume changes. The Gallaghers, not so much.

They actually just wear their very basic, like the zip-up jacket kind of vibes. I think Noel had just like a casual shirt with a shirt underneath on. They did next to no crowd work, but it was so entertaining. They're 60 years old. The guy ain't doing a cartwheel and a split. No, it's not that. It's because they hate each other. They're just these like guys from Manchester that are just back to basics, you know, and

the music was incredible, but I think Oasis is what Taylor Swift is for ex and millennial men. As in like when I was there, I was like, this was the fanfare of Taylor Swift, but now I'm getting the guy version. I have never in my entire life seen so much emotion come out of men. I've never seen them hugging so much. I saw men kissing and I've been to football. they really really took it up a notch and it was beautiful it was very healing culturally

I was like we're getting there we're healing we're coming back together because they were one of the biggest bands in the world for a long time like they literally took over and if you think about it I'm sure the age demographic Keisha of the men that were there were probably 35 plus I would say 35 to 60 because a lot of the younger people don't know them yeah I'd say that the average age was probably about 50 but obviously they've got people that you know across the generations and I think that a lot of people might have even been there that were younger that had their parents listening to them so there was a lot of like families but particularly men particularly men having the best night of their life having the biggest feeling I do think though

that if Taylor Swift does a comeback tour when she's 60 no one's expecting the leotards and the splits I reckon she could stand there and just belt out a few tunes and we'd be okay with it no I do think the expectation is far different on women than it is to men a hundred percent What man do you know, what male performer do you know that goes out and puts on a level like that? Yeah, no, it's true. Bruno Mars dances. Michael Jackson.

Timberlake technically does, but apparently not as good as he used to. I think it is also genre specific. They obviously do like Britpop of the 90s. It's genre as well. But it's also like their whole MO is give no fucks and everyone knows still now that they hate each other. They don't even want to be there. They've literally said that it's like, hey, this is a money to up.

It's a money grab. we got offered a lot of money you'd fucking know we don't like each other we're just gonna perform I was literally about to say that I was about to say I do think that comeback tours are 99% we've run out of money from the first tour we we made so much then that we went kind of silent spent it all and now we're 70 and we got some debts I got some big mansions and some bills I do think that's a part of their story though and and why this tour is so big obviously they're a huge band but because they've so publicly hated each other for so long and everyone knows that the fact that they've said you know what we will get back together everyone knows it is one time

only like this is the only time that you will ever get to see them again in existence and there's something about the story that makes you want to see them more it does make it more alluring I think it's because we don't see it very much usually when bands are playing together it's very much we all love each other and I mean I don't know if we want to talk about this now but We have a very exciting episode coming out on Friday with a member of a female group where they still love each other so much. Can you imagine what the dynamic would be like if they actually hated each other, but they got back to like, you just want to see it.

It was particularly interesting because most of the time, if one of them was performing a song that they had written, it was kind of like their song. They were the lead singer. The other one would leave the stage. I didn't know if that was because they needed a break or because they were just like, You repulsed the fuck out of me. Well, they probably also don't know what to do because they're not part of it. So what, are they just going to sit on stage twiddling their thumbs like waiting for their time?

I'd go off stage too. They probably had a nap. I have a question because you just kind of seeded Friday's episode, which I'm not on because I was still in my half-baked maternity leave. Are we dropping? Are we going to stick to the bread crumbing or are we going to blow the load? There's been some big moments in my life. No, not my life. There have been some big moments in this podcast where I'm like, wow, this is a moment.

Like, this is cool. I can't believe I get to speak to this person. Kim Kardashian last week was one. But this was, like, taking me back to about 12, 13, 14. That's how I felt when we got to interview Hanson. Very similar. Honestly, similar. Yeah, very similar.

Icons of the time. We have, on Life Uncut, a real-life Spice Girl. Spice Girl, a real-life one. If you told me I was going to sit down and talk to a Spice Girl, I would have said no fucking way. It is so cool. Does anyone remember like being back in primary school or high school? I think we would have been to high school, wouldn't we?

When Spice Girls were massive. You were in primary school. I was in high school. I was actually one year old when Spice Girls got together, which I told her and she was so lovely about it. And I was like, I'm sorry. I kind of almost missed the boat. I remember being at school and every like all your girls in your friendship group would

get assigned a Spice Girl and you would play the role of one of them and you'd have to like and reenact or choreograph some dance to the song. And I always had – my outfit was always the crop top and I was Sporty Spice and I used to do cartwheels. We used to have the band out the front and I would always have the crop top on and I was the Sporty Spice one. And no one ever wanted to be Ginger Spice. They just didn't.

Well, I've lived out my dreams. We have Mel C, Sporty Spice on the podcast on Friday. Hey-o! Hey-o! And can I just say she was – Sporty. Super sporty. She was so likeable.

She's so funny. She's so down to earth. and I'm like, how are you this likeable? Media training. But I feel like it's the opposite. That was a joke. She's a scouser. She's from Liverpool.

She hasn't lost that like really grounded, gritty. I had expectations. I was so excited and she still blew those expectations out of the water for me. So I absolutely loved the chat and she's so generous with her time as well. It was definitely not media training. She's just so nice.

She's just a really nice. Laura, we're going to go to Toddy's all together. Oh, my God, I'm down. Slamming out with a spa girl. Don't start that room. I'll call the paps on that one. It's in the episode. Okay, it's in the episode.

But the thing that was really nice and it was a bit of an exclusive is that she revealed to us how she met her Australian partner. They've been together for about two and a half years now. No, let's not talk about the whole episode. Well, she's never spoken about how she met him before. So, yes, there's a little extra breadcrumb for what's coming on Friday. But we are going to do something kind of special. You guys know that YouTube is our whole jam at the moment.

and so what we're going to do is that and there's a couple of steps to this so let me just take a second on Thursday evening we're going to release a video of Mel on Instagram if you comment on that video with what it says it will likely be Mel we are going to send you a link to a pre-released screening of the entire episode that you can watch on YouTube so you'll only be able to get it through that link if you're a subscriber to our YouTube and it's free so it's not like a paid thing so yeah the way it will work comment on the video with the particular word we'll send you the link and then you can watch the whole episode early before it actually comes out what's our word should we go spicy comment spicy sporty i was thinking mel comment sporty clearly we have

things to work out behind the scenes but it will be very clear in the caption but yeah you don't want to miss that that was like definitely a favorite of mine so if you guys listen to ask uncut i was telling a story about my friend that is deep in the dating trenches she's deep in the mariana trench which we all know is a very deep do we all know that you don't but she's anyway she's in a deep trench and i'm act i'm living for her stories because she's in the front line really she really is yeah she's taking it for the team at the moment and then she's delivering for us she's delivering the goods but i was telling you about a story she recently went to melbourne with a friend that on different flights and so she was messaging her friend she

was messaging a guy she was seeing simultaneously and she went to message her friend and say there's no fitties on the plane. And now she's UK based. So fitties mean like fit, hot guy. So she was trying to tell a friend that there's no fitties here, but she was writing it to the guy that she started dating. So she messaged this poor guy, kept going like, just so you know, there's no one hot on the plane. Anyway, this went back and forth for a long time, but we had a laugh and I thought, oh, she's not alone. I remember that the reason Ask Uncut started was because I accidentally sent a hideous photo to the guy that I was dating and I was supposed to send it to my sister. So we did a call out what did you accidentally send I did notice Keisha in that episode of ask and cut

when I was listening back that you deleted out how I said I sent a message to my sister about my mom but I actually sent it to my mom yeah good though I'm glad I was like that's actually probably a really wise choice I don't think I did no I don't think she did no I'm pretty sure you just must have been distracted did I listen did you want me to cut it out I don't think I did pretty sure that's it just uh recapping on that so I was bitching about my mom and I sent it to my mom I love my mom but she she was like that's okay sweetie and I was like oh god dig up Laura dig up all right let's get into it what did you accidentally send I accidentally sent a pic of my sexy undies to the undertaker that was organizing my mom's funeral

oh that's oh do we call them an undertaker yeah that's their name my granddad was an undertaker at one point once said that they were carrying like the body down a set of stairs and because of all the gases in the body the person like half sat up and all this gas came out like a burp and they thought that it was the person was still alive to be fair that's pretty much britney at the moment she's uh she's calling gas today we've edited out a few burps and a few farts anyway okay no no farts no not yet not yet one burp several whatever i accidentally sent an engagement invite to the wrong person. I sent it to the guy who cheated with my now husband's ex-girlfriend. This is really confusing. He accepted the invite and I very awkwardly had

to tell him that it was an error. That's so funny. Why did he accept it? Surely you're like, I mean, free feed. Nice to mingle and meet some new people. Weddings are always a lovely event. I've been to some that I don't know the people that well. It's a nice time. My friend and I went on separate dates one night. My date went to the toilet and I messaged saying, how are you going? I meant to send it to my friend to ask how her date was going. So she's asking how his shit was going. He was on the toilet doing his shit.

And she's like, how are you going in there? He's like, fine. Thanks for asking. Yesterday, a friend asked me to send a pic and video of a resort I stayed in as she is considering booking it and no idea how. But instead of sending it to her, I sent it to a guy I knew from high school and didn't realize until later that afternoon when he sent me a message saying, looks like a nice holiday so innocent that's one that's innocent that's fine imagine being the person receiving

it you'd be like why on earth are you like this is such a weird way to brag this is a longer one but it's funny a few years ago a group of friends and i had been playing cards against humanity now if you know the game it's the opposite of pc when organizing the night we had a group called cards against humanity so the next day after a few drinks playing the game i messaged the group saying hey i wish we could all enjoy another night reveling in daniel ratcliffe's asshole now for context this was one of the cards in the game fast forward a few hours and when i hadn't heard from the group i was thinking wow tough crowd and i decided to message again to my horror i had instead sent it to the local builder who had come to our home the day before

to quote our renovation she literally wrote imagine imagine getting a rogue message from someone that was like reveling in i wish we could revel in daniel ratcliffe's asshole again you'd be like what the fuck what happened when I was at a quote this is good my ex and I were in the middle of separating I screenshot his messages and sent them to a friend but I actually sent them to him bagging him out oh we've all done that yeah but do you know what I did once yeah on the toilet nah different one this reminds me of it so I was going through a breakup I'd been in a relationship for like three years we lived together he was a lovely one that every so often I'm like oh he's just nice it just wasn't right I'd gone and moved into a girlfriend's house and

he thought that maybe I just needed some time and I was just like you know figuring some things out he thought you were coming back he thought I was coming back yeah he had hopes at that time anyway what um dashed those hopes is when I accidentally sent him all the rental listings that I was looking at instead of sending them to a girlfriend so I took a screenshot I took a screenshot of my desktop and sent something to him but in all the tabs was just like all of the rentals that I was looking at he was like yeah so I guess we're I guess you're moving on you've never said that i just remembered it when i saw that and i was like oh that's right i was an asshole after six years sometimes we can still be hit with those memories yeah trauma i do put

things into a box up in a shelf and every so often i go through that filing cabinet just for you guys listen listen to this one i accidentally messaged my mom saying oh can you just do it in a cup and I'll use a syringe. I can't be fucked to have sex. Straight to the mum. Do it in a cup and I'll use a syringe. When I was a teenager, I accidentally texted my mum instead of my boyfriend about how it felt when he came inside of me

and how it turned me on for context. My parents are hardcore born-again Christians. Oh, my God. You would die. especially with how like the detail i love when he comes in me oh god okay last one instead of this is something you'd do laura uh i probably have done it it was me i sent this in instead of texting my husband i posted in my work group chat about how i just had to fish my son's shit out of the toilet with my blood with my bare hands because it was actually my blocked toilet

but the thing is i would send that but mean to send it to my work chat i want people because Wear your work jacket. I want you guys to know what I have to go through in a day. You have no idea. But the bare hands part, that's a choice. Put some gloves on. You don't have to go in raw dog. Sorry, who has gloves sitting around the house?

I have a box to clean up Bonnie's shit. I have a box of gloves. She shit once. But I have them from my medical days. But I had a box of – I have 100 gloves. No, they're great. A whole box of gloves. Best thing I ever did.

I'm not putting – I'm not fishing out a raw turn. Do you know what? I think it's because when you're a parent, you become desensitized to shit. So you'll fish it out of anywhere. I'll pull it out of her butthole if it's stuck in there. It's fine. With your bare hands? Actually, yeah.

You know how sometimes a dog will eat a hairball and then one bit will be inside them, the other bit will be hanging by a hair? Lola's had that before. So I had to give her a hand. Oh, my God. Why is Lola eating hair? I don't know. She's four.

She'll eat anything. She needs supervision. Okay. All right. I have a question for you guys. You can answer it metaphorically in your own head if you like. Like how young do you think is too young to start on skincare? No such thing.

Start on birth. Get that baby skin nice and glow, everyone. You know how much I love skin. Well, no, this has been going around for a while because you guys might remember Drunk Elephant was in a bit of hot water a while ago for advertising their brightening vitamin C serum to really like teenagers were going hot and crazy for it. And like we all know teenagers don't need vitamin C serum. What they need is apricot scrub.

Okay. God damn it. And sun cream. You need to scrub your skin until it's red, raw and bare because we all did it and you deserve it too no absolutely do not do that that's the worst advice you've ever I know but we did and we I'm okay we'll get into this but the reason why we're talking about this is Shay Mitchell if you don't know who she is because I didn't know who she is but you don't know who anyone is Shay Mitchell is a she's a very successful

actress from Pretty Little Liars which is like six seasons or something she'd done loads and then she sort of she sort of faded away from the acting scene and she got married had kids and went into business yeah and she's also yeah she's an entrepreneur and I've looked at her social media and I would say that she kind of, without meaning to, I would definitely say that she sits within a bit of a mumfluencer space as well because her kids are very front and centre on her social media and she does a lot of different brand work and whatnot and her kids are involved in it.

So she has come under fire and gotten herself into a bit of hot water with a new brand that she is releasing. So she's just started a children's skincare brand that's called Rinny. It's co-founded with another mum. Her name is Essa Song. And this skincare line is, look, it's branded really cute. It's got really nice packaging. The picture though, however, that they used to launch on social media is a extremely young girl wearing a hydration sheet mask. And it says that the line is aimed

at young children, ages three plus. And it launches with such products as a sheet mask featuring cute animal designs like puppies and unicorns and pandas, a hydrogel facial mask, and after sun facial mask for children. Before we unpack it, I want to read her response. So she said her girl's curiosity at birthday parties and face paint disasters was the inspiration behind this brand. Quote, this has been three years in the making, inspired by my girls, their curiosity and all the little moments

that made me realize how early it starts from birthday parties and face paint to wanting to do what mummy does with her face masks. It was only a matter of time. Now, this is an Instagram story post that she did. She clarified, Rini isn't about beauty. It's about self-care, about teaching our kids that taking care of themselves can be fun, gentle, and safe. Kids are naturally curious, and instead of ignoring that, we can embrace it with safe,

gentle products that parents can trust and sweet moments that bring us closer. Now, it's been very divisive in the comments, and there's a lot of different subgroups that have threads about it. Ripping her a new one. Well, yeah, but there are a lot of, she's got a lot of support as well, but it's aimed at age three plus. I think that is insane that a three-year-old should even have skincare on their radar. They don't even know what skincare is.

They don't know what a face mask is. And I don't care how curious your kid is at three. No, and also like, I mean, that's clearly what people have gotten irate about. I think if she hadn't put an age demographic on it at all, if she hadn't aged it, I actually think she would have gotten away with it because there are so many skincare brands that are out there that are aged and they are marketed and targeted to children and they fly under the radar. They do it through their packaging. They do it through their types of advertising, through their hooks. The reason why I think that she's really come under fire is because she said

for ages three plus, which just sounds absolutely ridiculous. The only thing I do question is it's not like she's put together a three-step skin routine. It's not like she's saying babies need to tone, wash and moisturize. She's just said, okay, she's created these sheet marks, which I do agree sits in a fine line of being like absolutely inappropriate for children. But I think more so it's just adds to this concept that we constantly have to consume. It's capitalism. It's like, how else can we make money or brand things that are targeted to the advertising of children and make money off this type of increased consumerism?

That's actually exactly what one of the comments on her post read. It said, it was by Rebecca Lee 21. We're living in capitalism's final boss level where a child's unblemished face is just another untapped market. Sell a calming face mask so they can relax from what exactly? Snack time? Existing? I just want someone to make a sheet mask of a baby's face so that I can wear it.

Because every time I look at my children's skin, I'm like, it's so perfect. I want to climb inside that vase. It's just too much, too far. Yeah, very Hannibal Lecter of me. We know kids don't need skincare. We know they should have moisturizer on. Everyone's supposed to moisturize your whole. Yeah, they are.

You're supposed to moisturize your baby's body. I think they're supposed to have sunscreen. That's the thing that I think we can all agree. Yeah, babies and kids, of course you're supposed to keep moisturizing. Otherwise you can get dehydrated skin, like a normal moisturizer, normal sun cream, that's it. But it's the idea of projecting beauty standards onto kids that don't even know what a beauty standard is.

So all of a sudden, I mean, we didn't have to face that until probably maybe 14 or 15, which was quite late, I think, because we didn't have Instagram, we didn't have a comparison culture when we were growing up. It is so much younger now. Like I have friends with kids who have seven year olds who are wanting to put lashes on their eyes, who are wanting to put their nails on. And, and that's because it is everywhere.

And if they don't feel like they're doing it, they feel left out. So I understand. I don't want to shit on Shay Mitchell at all. It didn't make me enraged. I don't think it's necessary at all, but it didn't make me enraged. I think I understand it because that's where society's gone. Now that doesn't mean I agree with it. I think she just marketed it incorrectly.

So she said, when I did some reading, she was saying, look, the idea came from, I was on a family holiday in Mexico. One of my girls got too much sun and needed to put some aloe vera on her face. And like, that's what I did. So I started to put something on her face and then she didn't like it because it was sticky and yucky. And that is where my idea was born. And I was like, oh, what if we have something that kids love that is just good for them?

And I know there's nothing like toxic in there. I know it's really gentle. And she's like, that's where it stemmed from. But those products already exist though, right? Like those things already exist. The thing that didn't exist is that the child was the targeted consumer, you know, and I think there's been a really big push in the last probably decade, maybe longer, I don't know, but to have these clean, non-toxic, non-harsh that are being used on children.

And I think that a lot of moms get behind that. The difference is, is that the actual, like the marketing of this product is literally done on a child that's four years old. And that's what feels so uncomfortable. The targeted consumer isn't kids kids. The consumer is still parents. The three-year-old's not buying it. They don't have any money.

It's made to look cute, but the targeted audience are still parents. I have a couple of different feelings about this. Firstly, I mean, regardless of the sun safety aspect, you shouldn't be making an aftercare for your kids because you should be protecting your kids' skin in the first place from sun damage rather than trying to correct the damage that you've allowed your kids to. Because, like, if your kids get sunburned, that's your fault.

I do agree. I disagree with that. I disagree with that. It is so easy in Australia, especially, you can put sun cream all day. We've just seen that like 30 of the top brands of sun cream haven't done anything. It is so easy to get burnt even with protection. Do you want to know why I disagree with it? Because I have a six-year-old and she's had sunburn and I'm talking mild sunburn once

in her entire life. Once, the tiniest bit of pink. It is so easy to avoid it if you are diligent with sun protection. Make your kids wear hats, make your kids wear sunscreen. What Britt is referring to, and we actually have an episode coming up with a dermatologist quite soon where we unpack a lot of this is that the testing in Australia of sunscreen products a lot of the brands so no the Australian ones are but a lot of the brands that are sold in Australia do not get their SPF tested in Australian conditions and so that's why there was that

whole thing this year a lot of you will be like oh yeah I saw stuff about this in the news where all of these sunscreens were having to be taken off the shelves because they weren't at the SPF that they claim to be so I think you know there is a level where I'm like if you think you're putting SPF 50 on your child but what you're actually putting on is SPF 6 yeah but I'm not I'm not just talking about that though there's there needs to be three forms of protection firstly I mean and I know that we're not getting into this but put a hat on your kids put sunscreen on put long sleeve swimmers on so that they can't get burnt through it and then also be in the shade if it's the middle of the day like I will you know say that to the cows come home and look I think

that the most important part of this and like what you're saying Keish is that it's the advertising to kids. I know it hasn't been yet, Britt, in terms of like, it's the adults who are going to be buying this, but a lot of young children, not three-year-olds that don't have any income, but a lot of young kids, like 10-year-olds, 11-year-olds have a disposable income where they're getting pocket money. They are actually receiving income for doing jobs around the house or whatever. That's really standard and really normal, or they're saving their extra from their lunch money. And a lot of them who have access, especially to social media, are being targeted by these brands it is conscious it is intended and we already have child care like I said child

care aimed and focused skincare brands that exist in Australia the first one that comes to mind is all kinds have you guys ever walked into an all kinds shop you probably would never walk into an all kinds shop Keish because you're not their target market I walked past it yesterday in Bonnet Junction this is no shit on the brand at all like their products are really cute the girls love them they love their lip glosses they create these like little lip glosses that come with an attached key chain so you can clip them onto your school backpack right like that's where it starts but everything it's from like foaming body washes and mousses and different things it's all aimed and packaged at children it's advertised to children and you walk past that store and a kid

thinks it's a toy store they just beeline for it right so we already have brands that do that we already have grow to skincare from zoe foster blake it's a skincare line that's created for children but i would agree that that has been specifically marketed to the adults who are already buying go-to and they want something that they know is safe and toxins free and et cetera, et cetera. I think where this becomes something that people get really angry about, it's twofold. One, it's the three-year-old age bracket that we've put in it. Like children don't need a three-step routine.

It's the sheet mask aspect that feels very adult and also the fact that it's attached to a personality. I think when a brand is faceless, they receive less heat. The fact that she is the figure behind the brand and she is the person, it's easier to pinpoint and go, you're the problem. It's not the brand that's the problem. It's the person that becomes kind of like the head on the beast. That's a greater issue here. And I do think that there is so much over-marketing that happens to children and there is so much adultifying kids in the clothes that they wear, especially young girls, in the clothes that they wear,

in the way that they dress, they do their hair, in the makeups that they can access, in the skincare. We really age up small young girls far faster than we do small young boys. I think that I was thinking about, you know, when we were kids and we all had lip smacker. Do you guys remember that? Like there were all these makeup brands. I know I used to have makeup that I would put on and some pretend high heel shoes. And like, I think that we've kind of come to terms with the fact that especially little girls and maybe little boys, but for me, I was a little girl. So I always wanted to kind of mimic what mum was doing. And this is the first time that I've really seen that we're now extending that into skincare. And I'm like, oh, wow, we

actually are turning over a bit of a new page. Like, look, maybe this has existed for longer than I'm aware of. I obviously don't have children of my own, but for some reason, this did feel like it was a step too far for me. And I was like, this is just getting insane. Like the expectations of what parents are supposed to be getting for their children so that they can be cool and they can be fitting in is getting out of control. Laura, would your kids even stand still long enough to have a sheet mask on? That's the ridiculous thing of it, right? Like Lola would put a sheet mask on and then she'd be so sensory. She'd take it off within two seconds. But I do think it's the conditioning. That's what I, I mean, I don't know if it's necessarily us as adults being like

so done with the beauty standards. I think we're done with the conditioning that children are exposed to because it starts so, so young and I don't have it. Don't get me wrong. I don't have an issue with things like smackos. I don't have an issue with the girls having lip gloss. I don't even have an issue with the girls playing with makeup as a creative outlet. Like they've got little makeup sets. If they want to play with it and put it on, so long as they're not doing it because they feel like it's for a beauty reason, they're just doing it because it is akin to face paint. That's fine. I think it's the, it's an issue when we have situations like the Sephora girls and the Sephora kids and the drunk elephant kids who are, like I said, 11 years old, they have

been conditioned through social media and they've decided that they want the vitamin C serum, which is going to make their skin wrinkle free and poreless. Like your skin is already wrinkle free and poreless. You're 11. So I think my issue is the conditioning, not so much what the product is. It's walking into, and I don't want to say the brand because we went in there on the weekend to go and get some kids clothes. It's walking into a really well-known kids clothing shop and seeing that all the kids, the little girls clothes from three-year-old up until whenever are midriffs. Like why is a three-year-old needing a midriff or a crop top? Why are they needing cropped pants? Why are the shorts for little girls, short shorts, whereas the shorts

for boys are normal length shorts? For me, it's the confusion as to why we are treating children as though they're adults and why are we providing products for them as though they're adults? The one line I really wanted to kind of hone in on is that Shay's response to this was really isn't about beauty it's about self-care do kids even fucking need self-care like where do we stand on that like at what point do we introduce self-care to a child kids need self-care but they don't need an adult version of self-care we do self-care as adults like putting on a face mask listening to meditation whatever it is kids don't need that version of what self-care looks like they need to go outside and play they need to have a time yeah they need quiet time they need

their parents to be involved in their activities their version of self-care is getting a hug is having their head scratched not hyaluronic acid yeah it's also free is is all of those connection points and like you know you might maybe there might be a mom out there who maybe does a sheet mask with their little girl as a once-off little funny cute thing to do but if a child starts to feel like they need to work this into their weekly routine in order to upkeep some sort of standard, then I think that that's really like quite a deep and gross issue that we're imprinting these things on kids so young that they need to buy into the beauty standards that adults have already been sold for so many years.

I just pictured a child on a Sunday afternoon being like, I need my face mask because I've got daycare tomorrow and I'm just really stressed out about it. Should we care? Think of how good they're going to look when they're teenagers. Or it's like their one week where they're like, it's my full body shower. What do we call it? An everything shower. They're like seven and they're like, I've got to have my everything shower, mom.

You're like, well, the fuck? I hate and everything. Do you know what I like though? Okay. And I do think we're going to see a shift in this because most of the advertising to children these days happens across social media. It really does. Like TikToks and Instagram, it's such an insidious and easy way for brands to access

kids because they know that kids are on the site. YouTube is another enormous one. Like so much advertising happens on YouTube kids. And you would think a brand like this is very brand safe for children, but it's the messaging behind it that's not brand safe. with the changes that are happening in Australia with kids no longer being able to access social media or YouTube until they're 16 years old I think that's going to have a massive impact on the access that brands have and in the power that parents have to protect their children from that

access as well so I think that we will see a shift maybe not in places like the states but I definitely think in Australia we might have a greater chance of preserving their childhood for a little bit longer it is our suck and our sweet of the week Brittany what is your suck my suck is said I couldn't go to Oasis I was supposed to be going to Oasis Keisha was only going because I got us tickets well we all did we were meant to go for work but it didn't happen but I couldn't go and I just had so much I had some personal things happening that I had to go and deal with and I just couldn't go and it was not an easy decision mind you it was traumatizing and I will never forget it but I did listen to the set list all day thinking of you Keisha you're my wonder world

and my sweet was Maya is I get to like every time I get to see baby Maya is my sweet but baby Maya is now walking she's like I took her to swimming lessons she's doing she's really thriving so my sweet is just going and seeing her and I'm the only person outside of Jane Sherry like outside of her parents that she's really comfortable with she still gets a bit scared for people doesn't want anyone to hold up but she will run to me every time and and I like that's You're in the fold. Yeah, that is such a flex. Baby flex.

She fell over the other day and hurt herself and was crying and Sherry picked her up and she wanted me. Flex. Flex. I'm in. Yeah. So that's my sweet. The briberies work.

Okay, so my suck for the week is Poppy had her six-week vaccinations last week on Thursday, which, do you know what? It's my suck, but it actually was fine. Casual mom. The kid. Stab her again. Just pinned her down, yeah. Give a five.

No, I forgot how aggressive it is. they have to do like two jabs like one jab in each leg at the same time and you've got to like yeah they do like a shish kebab and they've got such tiny little little chicken legs and then they got little chicken legs out like on both sides so anyway she's got her vaxxers and then she was a bit off for a day or two whatever she's she's genuinely fine but i don't like seeing her cry she never cries why don't they do it like how they do with dogs they distract them with a treat well i was gonna try and breastfeed her i was like can i not just breastfeed her and then you can do like one and two because I feel like I was if I was feeding her she would be way way better with

it and they were like no we just find it easier and faster same time to do two at the same time and then you can give her a feed afterwards so anyway she had her vaxxers it was fine and my sweet for the week is so if you listen to two learning dads you might know this but I hadn't really spoken about it on here much Ellie has been super sick so Ellie Matt's mom who lives with us she for the past eight weeks has been holy hell like we honestly thought she was not going to make it through this sickness i've been in and out of hospital she's lost so much weight um she's been really really unwell and we didn't have a diagnosis as to why which was just the worst anyway she went into hospital again about a week and a half ago and um she got a diagnosis and she

was diagnosed with a sickness called c diff which is like a crazy ass hospital bacteria that's like really resistant to different antibiotics and she was basically just she was also like you just shitting herself every morning but it was it was really really bad and she has now been on a full course of the correct antibiotics and she's just made such a comeback it's like watching her like her personality come back because she has just been an absolute shell of herself for literally eight weeks and then the other night we sat on the couch and we watched the traders final together and we just it was so good it was so good if you've been into the celebrity traders uk oh my go the final fuck it was the best night of my life all right you're like that's for another

day we're really late no genuinely it was so nice to just be able to have some time with her where she was really excited about something because she's not been healthy she's not been excited about anything for eight weeks and it's good to see her like you know on the mend now that's it from us guys i'm back here with you all that feels good too i'm glad ellie's better because it was touching what about me huh be glad i'm back yeah you're back you never left you've just been floating around the whole time. Guys, you don't want to miss it. Remember, this week is a big episode. We've got a Spice Girl,

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