Life Uncut - What's all the fuss about Only Fans

Episode Date: May 19, 2020

Hey fam! Boy do we have an interesting one for you! Only fans. The controversial subscription based website where users can post whatever their heart desires for a fee that they see fit. There is no ...limit! Content can range from a cooking demonstration to proper full blown, in your face pornography. And people are making absolute bank! $$$But is it a slippery slope? Australian social media stars seem to be leading the way so we thought it was about time we unpack this new trend that is revolutionising the sex worker industry. We chat pros and cons and decide how we really feel about it. Would you do it?! Oh, how could we forget, there’s also the girl that had a one night stand then had to stick something up the guys butt a week later - and not by choice 😉If you love listening to the two of us unpack life please hit subscribe, 5 stars and share the love, because, well, we love love xSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, will you turn that shit on silent? Ha ha ha ha! Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Britt. And I'm Laura. And we are so pumped to be here. we have a killer episode for you this week this week we're going to be talking about only fans i don't know if you guys have heard of it or not some of you may have it's actually not that new
Starting point is 00:00:38 but it's it's a very popular now subscription-based website that has been getting a lot of conversation in the media so we thought we would touch on this i actually kept calling it fans only fans for fans only that's what i thought it was great so britney's really well researched i googled it to try and get information i was googling fans i couldn't remember it i kept going fans only and they're like no only fans but before we get into that let's do the usual roundup what's been happening oh god i think i start mine with oh god every week every single week you do oh god actually now you mention it you really do this week though matt has decided to take it upon himself to do a little diy project this is the project that i have been trying to positively
Starting point is 00:01:22 massage into him since COVID started, since the whole lockdown started. I was like, hey babe, how about- Is it to shave his moustache? No, my God, that is set in. That is luscious thick and I don't think it's going anywhere fast. I was like, can you just maybe fix up our outdoor area? Like let's get some pots. Let's buy a cute little outdoor setting. Let's make it all delicious and we can sit out there and we can enjoy it. So this week he's decided that he's actually going to do it. This week it started to rain. This week winter set in we don't need an outdoor setting anymore but we're getting one and then yes curious timing I must admit to go all out on your outdoor area not only did we not have an outdoor area it
Starting point is 00:02:01 was like just you've seen it it was just was just like a total jungle it was a jungle I thought you're about to say it was a junkyard I was gonna say yes yes it was I was like I had to swing through vines to get into your house it was an obstacle course anyway so then Matt decided to take a whippersnipper to it yesterday and now it kind of just looks like it's been trodden through by about 17 cows i must admit when i came over tonight i felt like it was very naked i think he stripped it back a little bit too far when you've cut the grass down to pure dirt and actually ripped it straight out of the ground i think you may have got a little bit ott but you want to know my favorite part of the backyard reno is tell me my favorite part is that it's probably been like
Starting point is 00:02:42 10 days now since you got your outdoor setting it's still in fucking plastic all over it like the mum the mum from the nanny you know how she has that plastic coated lounge so that she has sex on it and she can just like wipe it off I can guarantee ours has nothing to do with sex and has a lot to do with weather protection you're welcome make sure you knock before you come around next week I never knock anyway no it looks great let's let's give him a pat on the back he needs positive reinforcement I did today say don't put a photo of it up on Instagram yet because I don't actually think it looks any good and he did it anyway and a whole lot of people messaged to say it looked better before oh really they didn't yeah I know what a knock to the ego he'll be okay
Starting point is 00:03:27 he'll be okay well that's an exciting week I have done nothing of the sort I came here with a question all right somebody wrote in well not a question I want to propose a small discussion are you going rogue on this podcast are you trying to do ask uncut right now look okay somebody wrote in a question and it really just provoked this train of thought and I I wanted your opinion on it because I just didn't really know and it's something that has happened to me and it was a really funny situation and I don't I don't know what the answer is so I want to ask you what is the etiquette for just say you hooked up with someone the night before could have been a one night stand it's early days it's like within a week it's very new first second or third time
Starting point is 00:04:04 you've seen that person you've hooked up the night before then you run into them on the street by chance so what is the etiquette for you've obviously been with this person very very recently and you've been intimate with them you've had sex with them you might have just hooked up with them whatever it was saying it's like you've had their dick inside you do you say hello no but not okay let me rephrase you might not have actually had sex with them but you were obviously like whether it was just a date and you were making out whatever the level maybe you had sex maybe you got to second base the fact is you're with them physically the night before the next day you run into them in public what's the etiquette how do you greet each other how do
Starting point is 00:04:46 you speak to each other okay there are there are so many questions in this how did you leave the night before did you like do a ghost and run because if you did a ghost and run then you just got to put your head down and walk real quick out of that situation but if you like you know got up the next morning had a kiss and then kind of went your separate ways and then just totally by accident ran into each other it's normal you're just like hey funny seeing you here yeah so you don't go and kiss them and make out and stuff no that's very presumptuous that's very I don't think you can take it from a one-night stand onto a PDA would you kiss them on the lips absolutely not really no this is that's like boyfriend level it just got me thinking this actually happened to me
Starting point is 00:05:26 in Bondi obviously it wasn't recently guys but I had been seeing this guy for only a week probably like I think I told you about it I remember it's just like okay do you like how I said I think I told you about it but I'm like we spoke about it all the time I I think I remember you mentioning this 1700 times I think I remember now my point is the first time I had spent the night there it was very very early days and then I just ran into him on the street the next day and I was like oh hi and it was I was with my sister there were um packed packed Bondi and I went just to like give him a kiss on the cheek and a cuddle because I thought like I mean like a hug you know like hey like how are you like obviously I saw you last night and he just went straight in
Starting point is 00:06:14 for the kiss on the lips in front of my sister in front of everyone like it was a very public event and I Sherry was like it's the best thing I've ever seen you were so awkward because I was like whoa like what's happening and then I ran into him three times on the promenade and he did it every time. It's a very ballsy move from a guy. I walked away and I was like do I have an instant boyfriend I don't know. Well okay because I know the ending to this story that's why I feel like I can jump in on this. That I don't have an instant boyfriend. You didn't have an instant and he certainly wasn't a pack and mix boyfriend that's for sure. He and the reason why I have an issue with this is because for him to kiss you publicly really sets like a very I think it makes
Starting point is 00:06:52 a real statement it's like I want to date you I want to be your boyfriend I think it's like a very public display of ownership of that relationship and then the fact that just a couple of days later he was like oh actually I'm not really into this like don't kiss me in public then if you're not into it just say hi and go on with your day be normal you don't have to publicly claim me in front of my friends yeah which I which I felt that's exactly what it was and so I thought it was interesting I was like is this a normal thing because I've never run into somebody I had never had that situation um but guys for the people that wrote in for the girl that wrote in I don't think that it's normal and for the people wondering what the etiquette is for that next day I reckon
Starting point is 00:07:31 you're better off to high-five them than to go into like make out with them on the street in front of everyone like calm your farm found that to be an interesting question that I wasn't the only one that was perplexed by this other people other listeners have been in this situation do you know what I was thinking this is totally off topic but this is just like kind of where my head's at at the moment which is scatty constantly so I know that we've been talking so much about like being in isolation and how much we kind of want things to go back to normal and so that we can have stuff to do and actually have more stimulation and you know what guys we'll be bringing you some really wild content when we can leave the house but now that it's coming closer to that really
Starting point is 00:08:11 being a possibility and the fact that like this weekend everyone was out everyone was doing stuff and like you could go to restaurants and there is it's lifted like we're out of it now there's a little part of me that's like oh I'm not ready yet oh I'm not ready I'm not ready oh no I don't want it to ever end I don't want to have to go to work and not be able to just fart whenever I want to like I'm not ready I love that that is what you're basing your whole isolation experience on Well, I went to work today and I was like, I need to be really conscious of my bodily functions. I've not had to do that in a long time. I'm just not ready for ISO to finish just because I know how crazy my life will be.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I know it's going to go back to what it was tenfold. And that was with me hanging on by a thread. But I am excited for people to go back to normal in terms of businesses. I've seen some businesses around Bondi close and it's really, really sad. So I do hope the economy can start to get back on track. and a lot of the small businesses that everybody knows someone in small business so I'm really really hoping that they can be on the mend but don't you think that there's also been some businesses that have completely and I know this is such a buzzword at the moment but they've
Starting point is 00:09:16 completely pivoted and they have reinvented themselves and reinvented their offering and I think that with in times of crisis it really sometimes highlights true entrepreneurship and really highlights people who have tenacity and business savviness also not a word but I'm going to go with it I think it is oh there you go business savviness and are able to to be like adaptable and kind of reinvent themselves and become chameleons in crisis I think it's been a really interesting time to watch what some businesses have done I mean going back to to like you know this feeling of like not wanting this whole isolation to be over yet like I know that it's a really unfair thing to say and of course I do want the world to go back to normal
Starting point is 00:09:57 as quickly as possible but I just remember having this intense anxiety when it all started and being like oh I don't know how we're going to adapt to staying at home all the time and now that it's lifting I'm like it's like a reverse anxiety yeah I feel this anxiety that like I don't want things to go back to normal yet like I'm just not ready for this shift because we as humans we adapt to our situation and I think people don't realize how quickly you get comfortable with the situation and something becomes your new normal I guess it's like becoming a mom the first little while is like this is crazy I can't do it then all of a sudden you don't remember what you did before that. And you're still like, this is crazy. I don't know what I'm doing constantly. And I woke
Starting point is 00:10:33 up this morning and I was like, I am never not going to be tired again. That's what being a mom is. No, ever. I'm going to be tired for the rest of, from, from the day Marley was born until the day I die. This is my life now. Yeah. Did you just only realize that now? Yeah. I woke up with a sore back and I was like, I'm never going to wake up from a sleep and feel refreshed ever again. But it's, it's crazy that we have become accustomed to this new way of life. And I hope if there's one thing we all take from this it's to start washing your hands more and just be i think i can't believe how many people are so unhygienic so hopefully this is like a learned trait now and subconsciously people are thinking about their hygiene whereas i don't think it crossed
Starting point is 00:11:13 a lot of people's minds before i'm only laughing because like from all the deep things that you could possibly say i just didn't think it was going to be like and wash your hands it's true do you know that i've read i can't remember where so i'm just going to throw some stats out totally totally unsubstantiated but men are far more inclined to not wash their hands than women because they go to the toilet hold their penis do a wee bust on out of there do you know the dirtiest part of a bathroom is a man's penis is the man's genitals no no the dirtiest part of a bathroom is actually the door handle yeah that's gross isn't it yeah people like oh don't touch the toilet seat i mean obviously it's all gross but the door handle because everyone's
Starting point is 00:11:54 touched everything the white the butt oh don't think about it but then they put their hand on the door so when i was doing some research for today's episode i came across a quote that was on twitter also can't substantiate where this quote came from because i put it in my notes because i was like damn that is good but also didn't write down who i got it from so i'm just going to plagiarize someone right now know that this came from twitter it's not from me but this is a quote has nothing to do with today's episode but i was like i love this and in one i think you reliving your breakup days all over again in like three sentences this person has just totally summarized everything that I think we try and communicate on this podcast and that is if you
Starting point is 00:12:32 constantly have problems with your boyfriend or your girlfriend I hope you know that that shit is not normal I feel like people always try to romanticize toxicity and confuse it for passion it's not and that's a miserable way for someone to love you wow mic drop that just resonated with every single bone in my body and I was like if you are in a toxic relationship or you're in a relationship where you're constantly doing the up, down, up, down, up, down dance and not the sexy up, down dance, just the miserable one. I think a lot of people confuse when you and I often say on this podcast that relationships shouldn't be hard and you shouldn't have to work that hard for them and they shouldn't be that toxic. Don't get us wrong. Relationships
Starting point is 00:13:12 can be hard work and you do have to fight for them and you do have to reassess them every few years. We're not saying that it should be a walk in the park for the rest of your life. what we're saying is at a grander level it's saying that if you every single day every second day are in tears and crying and you're anxious and there's abuse and whether that's emotional mentally physically that's when we're saying it shouldn't be that hard not that you need to sit down and have a chat three times a year and really fight for your relationship we're not saying that because I think a lot of people are confusing what we mean when we say you have to work for it oh yeah i mean every relationship has their ups and downs but but you shouldn't have to get up
Starting point is 00:13:53 every single day of that relationship and feel like it's hard work that's not a joy that's not what relationships are about and so especially from the beginning yeah fuck no and so when i read this i was like this just so perfectly encapsulates a couple of the episodes that we've talked about where we talked about toxic relationships and i just really really loved it so i wanted to put it here into this episode i'm gonna put it on the instagram so you guys if you're instagrams i'm gonna post it on the instagram so if you are ever at a point in your life where you're like you know this guy makes me cry all the time read this and know that this is not what you should be putting up with and you are worth so much more than that yeah thanks for
Starting point is 00:14:32 bringing that amen you're welcome you're welcome all right power to the people all right let's get into let's get into the people no something celeste barbara what a woman who actually update on celeste barbara that case will be decided this week on where her money is finally going to go the 51 million it's in court and it will be decided over the next few days that is actually a little bit miserable that it's taken so long disgraceful that that much money that was meant to be aid relief in the bushfires has been tied up for so long yeah that makes me angry it makes me angry that they're literally saying things like we're just like this is what it is we're just trying to decide whether one little new south wales company can get all the money
Starting point is 00:15:11 or whether we could possibly find a way to give it to families of our heroes that lost their lives fighting. Animal shelters that are trying to rehabilitate our wildlife. Workers, people that have sacrificed everything. People that need help rehabilitating their homes, their lands, their cattle, things like that. Oh, I just, I can't even talk about it. It infuriates me. I understand that there are policies and legislations on GoFundMe pages that, you know, keep people responsible and accountable for where and how they spend the money that we're donating to. So that is a really important, but I think the part of this that's quite worrisome is that Celeste Barber was so vocal on social media the whole time that don't worry, keep donating. I'm going to make sure this
Starting point is 00:15:54 money goes to these different charities. Her intentions were always there. Yeah. Her intentions were so good, but she was encouraging people to continue to donate. Had people known that that money was only going to then be disseminated to one charity, people would have stopped donating. so absolutely so i think that well i think legislation can be broken yeah i think that even though the legislation is there the fact that she used her social media very publicly to x amount of million followers that she has and verbalized that that legislation would be broken i think that then that outweighs in this in this case absolutely i think would be insane for them to give that money to one charity it will be complete uproar if the judge comes back and
Starting point is 00:16:32 says no that it that it can't be dispersed we'll have we'll update next week on that once we have the result so there you go news week with brittalore guys it is time for my personal favorite segment and that is accidentally unfiltered i feel like this is everyone's favorite segment surely just your most embarrassing stories you write in those moments where you want to bury yourself and we read them out and we laugh at you and with you but mostly at you with you with you with you at you and with everybody else who's listening to this okay i actually love this one because i work in operating theater and I know exactly how this would have gone down and I can picture the whole thing. Back before the ISA days, I went out with some friends to a few bars and we partied into
Starting point is 00:17:12 the night. I met a boy and we had a really fun one night stand. I thought things were great. He got my number, but in the sober light of day, I knew that I absolutely never wanted to see this guy again. And well, I just ghosted him. Sorry, I was uneducated at the time, ladies. Thank you. learn your lessons from this podcast so fast forward a few weeks later and i was at work as an endoscopy nurse now we joke that we are the butthole inspectors which they literally are they're the people that put the scope up your butt as we were doing as we were doing the list in theater the next patient was wheeled into the room and as i finished setting up the scope i turn around to see it was the boy on the bed about to be scoped and have this thing put up his butt
Starting point is 00:17:55 he turns around makes eye contact in front of all the doctors nurses and wardsmen and says well i've seen your butthole you may as well see mine and then he promptly rolls over and puts his butt in my face to everyone's credit they just let go of it no one said anything then when as soon as the patient was sedated questions were flying oh my god mind you i got a few high fives for getting some what a real sort of stab to the guy's masculinity he got ghosted and then she has to do something in his butthole but in front of a room full of people i actually feel really sorry for this guy good on him for making a joke about it like he got a good jab in there i would have pretended like i didn't know the person i love
Starting point is 00:18:41 that he just dropped it said it rolled over and stuck his butt in the face like i don't know he was better off in this situation I'd be like I think I need a little bit more drugs please to deal with this it would be the absolutely the worst but and then imagine being that girl so when you're in a theater like this the room's full you have literally have so many doctors everyone now has just heard him say that throw it to her and she has to go and answer to that and also they've all seen him naked but also totally out of context too I've seen your butthole now you have to see mine like wait what I don't know you give me the green dream and put me to sleep. Anyway, I absolutely love that. So if you guys have any more stories like that, keep them
Starting point is 00:19:18 coming. Shall we jump into the topic? Yes, we shall. So guys, for this episode, we wanted to do something a little bit different and we're going to be talking about OnlyFans, which if you haven't heard of it, it is this platform that has been gaining loads of media attention recently and it has really come into the spotlight, I think, since the coronavirus pandemic has hit and since we've all been in isolation and there's a whole lot more horny people online needing to get some content. So OnlyFans started in 2016 and it's not an app that you can download on your phone. What it is, is a subscription-based website where anyone can create an account, but it does seem to be a lot of influencers who are getting on there and they're curating specific type of content that
Starting point is 00:20:02 they don't put on their Instagram for people who want to pay a price. That subscription fee is a monthly fee. So it can start anywhere from $6 and it's unlimited. So the content creator is the one who puts the cap on the fee. And then once you subscribe to someone's feed, you can also then tip them for more explicit or more personalized content. Predominantly the subscribers who are using OnlyFans are men. It's got a really strong male slant in the way of subscribers. And basically what OnlyFans is, is it's a portal that offers greater access to an influencer or to somebody who you may admire's life. Now, OnlyFans has become pretty controversial recently, and that is because the type of content that people are posting on there is predominantly sexually
Starting point is 00:20:49 explicit content, and it is allowing people to make money off selling their nudes. I personally didn't know much about OnlyFans before you actually brought it up. You were like, hey, let's talk about this I've seen a lot in the news lately I had seen it going around I'd seen it on Instagram seen on the news a few daily mail articles but I didn't really know what it was and I have thoroughly enjoyed doing the research on this because it has been really eye-opening and whether it's going to be a way of the future I don't know I don't know how I feel about it but that's why I think it's so great to break it down so like Laura said you can subscribe to this site as a viewer or you can be a content creator and you can put anything on there you can put what
Starting point is 00:21:29 you'd put on instagram a cooking video a workout video any single creation you want the next step up which might be some more provocative photos bikinis sexy photos you can go all that well there's a there's a quote that they say tips for titties so yeah tips for titties titty shots um but it goes it literally goes all the way up to soft porn to hard porn complete sex sexual activities. Sexual activities. I'm trying to be diplomatic. Sometimes I put photos of my sexual activities on there. You can tell how diplomatic I'm trying to be. You can see how uncomfortable Brittany is by porn. No, it's not porn. It's I'm trying not to be crude. Yeah, sure. Okay. Well, that'll be new for this podcast. But also like, like Brittany just said, there is such a weird
Starting point is 00:22:16 and varied spectrum of content that is on OnlyFans. And for example, okay, we've talked about wiki feet before on this podcast plenty of times it's this it's a website moment it's not it's not my proudest moment but it is a website where somebody has aggregated photos of different d-list celebrities feet and somehow my feet have ended up on this website called wiki feet so there is content out there of my feet that some guy is jacking off over like what other reason is that they're on the internet so the idea of only fans is that you know what i could create a profile of photos of just my feet if I want to. And I could actually get paid for that content because it's out there on the internet anyway. Somebody is having a great old time for it. So
Starting point is 00:23:01 why shouldn't the women who are the creators of this content or the men, sorry, I shouldn't just say women, but why shouldn't they create the creators of this content, get paid for that content. And that's the sentiment behind OnlyFans. It does have its positives, which we're going to discuss. But then I also do want to touch on the fact that this is a bit of a cautionary tale as well because something that seems too good to be true which to be honest OnlyFans does you keep on hearing about all of these women and men who have made so much money so quickly like $50,000 a month $20,000 a month millions of dollars on this platform the dollars are actually ludicrous like we're high numbers it's insane but I think that there's a very small portion of people who
Starting point is 00:23:44 are making this amount of money and it becomes very very appealing and so I do want to touch on like the negative side of what OnlyFans could be as well. One girl in particular that I'm going to talk about, her name is Gem Wolfie and she's actually from Australia. She's from Western Australia. She's 28 and she has made millions of dollars on OnlyFans. She is actually the number one content creator and the highest paid person in the world on OnlyFans. And she has actually not even posted one nude photo. Now the reason I find her so fascinating is because she was an athlete. She used to play professional basketball and she just had an Instagram following that built quite rapidly from fitness photos and she was a chef so she'd put her food
Starting point is 00:24:30 photos up. She developed 2.7 million Instagram followers just following her content that was a bit sexy. She's got big boobs, she's curvy, she's beautiful but she got to the point where she's like, okay, I have 2.5 million followers on my Instagram that I'm putting this content out for free. Why don't I capitalize on it? So she started an OnlyFans account and became the number one highest paid person. What I think we really need to be careful of with this is young women and men seeing this saying, okay, I want to go and become the highest paid person. But what they don't realize is, is that you don't just go onto OnlyFans, post some nude photos and get that money and get that popularity she transferred 2.5 million Instagram followers
Starting point is 00:25:17 to OnlyFans so she started with a platform and I think it's a really slippery slope for young women to see women making $50,000 a month sometimes a day some depending on the photo she's putting out and saying I can do that I'm going to go and start putting nude photos on it just actually doesn't work like that their Instagram followers their Twitter followers it all correlates and transfers over to OnlyFans so I want to talk about that more too. So the thing with OnlyFans is that anybody can make an account very similar to Instagram. I guess the difference from Instagram is that Instagram has such strict nudity and pornography guidelines and there are huge restrictions on what you can and can't post on Instagram. Also the thing with Instagram is
Starting point is 00:25:59 that content is free and the currency that people deal with on Instagram is likes or comments. The difference with OnlyFans is that there is no restrictions on the type of content that people post, which is why people tend to post more sexually explicit content. And the currency that people deal with on OnlyFans is money. Now, a lot of reality TV stars have actually adopted the platform. Some who you guys would know of like Vanessa Sierra, who was from Love Island. She and her boyfriend have an account together. Her boyfriend's name is Luke Irwin, and they post quite sexually explicit photos of the two of them together, doing a whole bunch of different stuff. Some of it ranges from pretty mild, like bikini photos that you'd probably already see on
Starting point is 00:26:41 Instagram, all the way up to things that make the subscription worthwhile for people who want to have a more sexual insight into their lives. And one of the things I think that is really appealing about OnlyFans and what has kind of changed from the normal porn industry where you tap in and watch porn and then bat off and go to bed is that being a part of OnlyFans gives you this real insight to someone's life. It gives you this connection and it gives you this companionship that I don't think porn gives to someone. So I think that that's why there's been this push towards OnlyFans and why it's had such a huge uptake because you almost get like this boyfriend or girlfriend experience from it. So you really have access to these people who you feel like
Starting point is 00:27:24 you already know one of the biggest creators from OnlyFans in Sweden she's actually married but she I found her really fascinating I looked at her a lot today and I read a lot of her articles and she first and foremost said whoever thinks you can go on to OnlyFans and be successful by posting a nude photo here and there is kidding themselves she said for her it's a seven day a week full-time job because the whole idea behind it is people wanting to connect like you just said so she goes to the effort of knowing everything about her fans she has this relationship with them she knows their dog's names she knows their jobs she knows their stress levels she knows when they're having an operation so she can contact them and say how are you going follows up on them
Starting point is 00:28:08 so she creates a level of intimacy with these people where they feel like they actually have someone and they almost feel like they're in a relationship which I think is beneficial for a lot of people there are a lot of people that are lonely out there that want that connection but there's a fine line too I think we need to be aware that there are also a lot of people on there that I don't I mean I'm going to say it there are creeps on there there are predators essentially it is a porn site as well so I just want a lot of young women to keep that in mind also so she will do things anywhere from waking up in the morning and posting a photo in lingerie just saying morning guys she'll do something like that which she would have done anyway and she was doing anyway on
Starting point is 00:28:46 Instagram so she was doing it for free and like everyone does that now it's not you see something You don't even bat an eyelid when you see a bikini photo or a lingerie photo on Instagram anymore. Not at all. Like, I mean, posting a photo in a bra or posting a photo in a bikini is like, that is so commonplace on Instagram and people are doing that for free every day. So she started to do that. And I guess the interesting thing about her is she has her husband take a lot of the photos and her husband takes a lot of the content and the videos and he's there and he's very supportive of it.
Starting point is 00:29:16 he's very supportive of it because he almost feels a sense of pride like everyone sees what I've got everyone you know I've everyone wants her but I have her and and they have an open relationship there's a lot of trust they have access to each other's computers he can see every conversation that she's writing so there's this I guess a positive aspect for them in a relationship because she is in control of who she speaks to she's in control of what she puts out she's in control of how much she charges for that. Everything that she wants to do, she is in control of. And I think that is revolutionizing the sex industry. What I find really interesting is how polarizing OnlyFans is. And there are two arguments, two different camps at the moment. One camp is that
Starting point is 00:29:58 it is very empowering for women and that it allows content creators to take full control over their bodies, over the way that they portray themselves, over their revenue stream, over their boundaries and over the type of sex work that they do and their ability to make money off their bodies. But there's also been a lot of backlash to OnlyFans and that is people who have an issue with monetizing nudes, basically. You know, people are saying that it's making sex work more accessible, that it is romanticizing pornography
Starting point is 00:30:28 and that it is desensitizing younger generations to this sort of industry, which, I mean, realistically, should we have an issue with people using their bodies to make money I mean it is the oldest occupation in the world unfortunately we do live in a world where people are still stigmatized by it but I think that that stigma partly comes from misogyny but it also comes from this fear that people are doing something against their will because it doesn't align with somebody else's moral boundaries but like you've just said about this this other woman who's you know doing it in relation with her partner and they have a really open relationship it's different strokes for
Starting point is 00:31:04 different folks. And one of the things I think people have such an issue with, with OnlyFans is the fact that because you can't see the content that's being posted until you subscribe to someone's channel, people assume that it's worst case scenario. The content creator has put a price point on that content. If they were to post that content on Instagram, no one would bat an eyelid because it's free. The moment that that content creator is saying, no, this is a value and you have to pay for it that's when everyone seems to have an issue with it i i find it interesting because i i can see the positives and negatives in it i think like you just said for sex workers now it's making a safer environment it's going to allow a lot of sex workers to not actually have
Starting point is 00:31:46 to go and have sex they don't have to physically go and sell their body and put themselves in compromising situations anymore because they can do it from the safety of their own home with whom they choose when they choose to and they'll probably be making a lot more money this way than they were so I think that's a really great thing to put some women that maybe are in this industry not even by choice some people I think a lot of people probably get into the sex industry because they have to they might have a family or children or for whatever reason there's also a lot of people that choose to because it's liberating and it's their body and they choose to but it's giving them a safer space for sure and I think that's amazing but then on the other hand there
Starting point is 00:32:26 is this aspect where maybe a lot of younger people a lot of women would put themselves into positions that they probably never would have if the site wasn't available so there'll be people that never would have crossed their minds to sell nudes but now all of a sudden it's in their face people are earning money they're like maybe i'll just do it maybe i'll do it for a month maybe i'll do it for six months and then i think that can become a slippery slope oh yeah totally and i and i think that the the reason why people have such an issue with only fans is because of the scope and the variety of content that's on there. There are people who are doing hardcore porn, and then there are people who are posting like private exercise videos. It's such a crazy spectrum of
Starting point is 00:33:06 content. It's just lent itself more to the posting of nudes. That's kind of what it's become known for. And so obviously that's what we're diving into because that is what everyone has such an issue or that's what's causing so much controversy. I think the platform can be really empowering for for grown women who have agency and who have choice and who understand the decisions that they're making in their life because they have a bit of age behind them and experience behind them absolutely it is empowering it is liberating and it allows the content creator to completely dictate their own boundaries the one issue I have with it is that maybe it does slightly romanticize this quick and easy way of making money for young people and like when you're 18 19 and I know that
Starting point is 00:33:52 there's going to be a lot of young girls who listen to this podcast, but I remember back when I was 18, 19, and I did things then that I look back on now and I go, oh my God, I wish I never did that. The good thing about the mistakes I made is that I didn't make them on the internet. I didn't make them in a platform that's going to follow me around. No one has to ever know about them. If you were thinking about starting an OnlyFans account, if you're thinking about making money from selling nudes, because it does seem like a quick and easy way of making money. I think you just really need to be conscious about what you're putting on the internet and how it may affect you later on in life. And as much as OnlyFans as a site says that it's got all the
Starting point is 00:34:33 security measures in place and that you are protected, when you put anything out there on the internet, you are very much relying on the other people who are subscribing to that platform to play by the rules. And there are predators out there. There are people who do not play by the rules. So be very mindful of what you're sharing of yourself from a safety and security perspective, because there have been loads of cases of women who have been stalked off the back of their OnlyFans accounts, women who have been trolled online, women who have had their photos uploaded to prostitution websites. You really need to be mindful of that side of the argument as well. For young people, you need to be very, very conscious of the digital footprint that you're
Starting point is 00:35:12 putting out into the world. And it's one thing for us to sit here and say, OnlyFans is really liberating. It allows you to take control of your body. It allows you to take control of your content. It would be irresponsible for us to only say that side of the narrative and not say that actually you really need to take responsibility for the content you put on the internet because that is going to be there when you're 35, when you're 40, you don't know how that's going to impact you further on in life. And as much as I think like we should live in a society where you're not defined by the work that you do, or you're not defined by the nudes that you've put out into the world, we're not there yet. And so you don't want to be a martyr for
Starting point is 00:35:50 the cause. Interesting that you say that because there are people like Reese Powers. So, you know, Jess Powers from Married at First Sight. The sexy brother. Reese is the sexy brother. He actually became probably more famous than her, which is funny. He's making $50,000 a month. Yes. And this is the thing not only is he making fifty thousand dollars a month so he is one of the top he's in the top content creators in the world as well apparently this is what um the websites are saying so what he's saying I mean I would subscribe to him would you oh no you can have him I'll take him really yeah he's my cheap thrills or not so cheap I don't know how much he is to subscribe to let's find that out he's not cheap because he's making fifty thousand
Starting point is 00:36:27 dollars a month I actually really gobsmacked that that you are into him look I don't like the version of his personality that's being put out there in the world I don't know who he is as a person but I've read some pretty negative things and obviously he's not my type of guy so you know but if you were just to like snapshot the way he looks I think he looks attractive oh no I think he's nasty Matt's gonna smack me for this interestingly his ex is Vanessa Sierra the other girl that we just said is on is the content creator with her boyfriend making they're both on there they dated that's how they got on there they that's that's the link they used to date each other then they split up and then they both went and made bank why is it that all the
Starting point is 00:37:06 influencers all know each other like why how is it that they all kind of cross-pollinated different points in the world what i what i don't know if i'm on board with is it's one thing for him to put it on his story saying i'm in the top content creators i'm making this much money he put a screenshot of fifty thousand dollars that he made that month i mean that's fine he put a swipe up like you know join my account yeah subscribe that's all fine i'm all for that everyone can do what they want but then he was like you could do this too and it was this encouraging his younger audience and I thought oh I don't know how I feel about that like you're an influencer put what you're on you can be loud and proud that's fine but to be straight up encouraging your younger
Starting point is 00:37:45 audience to swipe up and you can make this money too I didn't sit well with me well no I think that that's kind of irresponsible because what that sort of says to everyone who is following him is that oh it's so easy for you to make this sort of money as well which it we all know it's not Unless you already have an Instagram following that allows you to leverage your OnlyFans account, you're starting at point blank. The same as it's really hard to amass a huge Instagram following, it's going to be hard to amass a huge OnlyFans following. And I think in order to amass a huge OnlyFans following, if you're not somebody who already has a level of influence, you're going to have to create more shocking, more controversial content, more appetizing content for the people
Starting point is 00:38:27 who are subscribed to you. And I guess, you know, you do have to play into people's fantasies in order to continue to get their subscriptions. There have been a lot of people that have come out and been really vocal and, and very positive and supportive of OnlyFans from a very feminist standpoint. And I, and I agree with some parts of the argument so wholeheartedly, like Clementine Ford has come out and said that it empowers women to be able to make money from content that men would otherwise be getting for free. And I totally agree with that. I think that there are very strong, very business savvy, very intelligent women who are using this as a vehicle to be able to create a revenue stream for themselves and forge a life for themselves that they wouldn't
Starting point is 00:39:10 be able to do if they were doing a normal nine to five job. There was this one really interesting little like excerpt that I read from one of the articles, and I'm going to just read it out to you guys. And it says, women are still regularly encouraged to commodify their bodies in some way as a means to progress and garner success across all industries when they become commodities in the literal sense though in a way that only benefits them financially that's when people start revealing their true attitudes towards sex work basically what they're saying here is like we still commodify women's bodies in so many different aspects like in in advertising in fashion women's bodies are still what we're using to to sell products basically but as soon as
Starting point is 00:39:48 somebody takes that into their own hands and use their body to financially benefit themselves that's when we seem to have a problem with it yeah it's funny isn't it because you could open up instagram right now and there'll be a girl on there in a very sexy photo a bikini or lingerie and you won't think twice about it but if that same photo came up and she said um pay 20 and i'll take it off it'd be like slut whore cheap nasty the words that would be coming at her but it's the same it's the same photo isn't it it's the same thing it's just that she's put a price on it now she's just saying i'm actually worth something and we immediately our mindset changes i guess the real question here is that the owner shouldn't be on the people who are creating the content
Starting point is 00:40:30 the the the owner should be on the people who are subscribing to that content i mean it's a real case of supply and demand if there wasn't a demand for it then only fans wouldn't exist in the first place so i guess it does frustrate me that all of the the hate and the venom that gets thrown towards the site is only thrown towards the people who are creating the content look i'm all for people doing what they want with their bodies they're in control and in with their whole life people do what they want with their life i'll support that is it for me absolutely not would i want my partner to do it no would i want my child to do it no but that's because i would worry about the repercussions later in life the fact that it is once it's on there we still live in
Starting point is 00:41:10 a world that's going to judge you we still live in a world that will not employ you it has happened to some of the Love Island people after they posted sexy photos they couldn't get a job their employers were like we can't hire you now because you're associated with our brand and we don't want that sort of stuff and unfortunately that is a world we still live in I know people employers that will they'll go through your CV and then part of that is to go and look at your social media and like we're not saying that that's the right mentality we're not saying that that's what should be people shouldn't be defined by what they've put out on the internet by any means but we're not there yet as a society. And there is still stigma that follows people around for
Starting point is 00:41:47 the type of content that they put on the internet. I guess what we really wanted to talk about in this episode was we really wanted to obviously touch on the ways that it can be empowering and it can be liberating for women who have agency and who have choice. But we also really wanted to touch on the dark side. And we also wanted to touch on the cautionary side of protecting yourself, of protecting your digital security and of protecting your digital footprint that you put out into the world. You are essentially very, very vulnerable on the internet.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Whoever you are on any site, anyone can hack your information and that has been happening. So I just want people to be really hyper aware of the danger aspect. Look, it's an interesting chat. It's an interesting thought and I will be interested to see
Starting point is 00:42:34 where it goes over the next few years. Would you make an OnlyFans account, Brittany? look you know what I'm gonna like I do like money I'm gonna say no like I know that I wouldn't but when I was reading how much some of these people are making by not even posting news I'm I was tempted I was like I could what if I did it for two and this is the slippery slope this is what you said to me like what if we just do it for two weeks and see how much money we can make yeah like it's just like a trial but the thing is then as we said earlier in the podcast it still has this stigma and that is attached to you then it's attached forever and it's something you do need
Starting point is 00:43:11 to really weigh up whilst i would love a hundred thousand dollars over the next two months i would make the choice not to do the only fans account what about you mate have you seen these feet i'm gonna start making myself some money i just don't think anyone would pay to see me like i'd have to do a subscription for like a dollar fifty you're just free that's instagram babe yeah that's instagram all right guys you know that we never finish an episode without our suck and our sweet which is our highlights and our lowlights of the week and you know what every week just feels the bloody same right now it really does i really just struggle to think of my highlights at the moment
Starting point is 00:43:53 and that's really sad that is sad oh like i'm not finding any more money lately okay so what's your suck and sweet you start first what's your suck okay my suck for the week which is actually just ridiculous because I don't know I don't know what's wrong with me I lost my wallet again this is the second time this year like your whole wallet again my whole wallet like the time Marley threw it out of the pram yeah but this time it's just it's actually just vanished like I don't know I it makes no sense whatsoever it's not in my house like I've cleaned I've looked it went missing last Thursday so it's been missing for five days now where were you last Thursday I I put it in my handbag i went into the city for a meeting i got into the city and i opened my handbag to go
Starting point is 00:44:35 buy myself a coffee and it wasn't there did you drive into the city i drove it i've checked my car i've checked everywhere it just freaking vanished have your cards been used no i don't know if it's safe maybe just some person who's not an asshole found it and isn't using my cards but it's like the wallet that matt bought me for my birthday which was in march to make up for the fact that I lost my wallet. I've had it for two months and it's gone. I don't know. I've never met somebody that loses their wallet as often as you do. I think there's something wrong with me. I actually think I have a problem. No, there is. Like, I don't think that there's definitely something wrong with you. This is the sort of moral support I need in my life. Who needs friends guys? I just
Starting point is 00:45:13 tell you the truth. The worst part is it's just the reordering of all the bank. There's the canceling of everything. And then they're getting the new cards. Then all your direct debits have to be changed it's just such a pain do you know what the good thing is though i'm so disorganized i still hadn't gotten around to getting myself a license or a medicare card so i haven't i don't have to do it twice i just have to do it once okay i'm just gonna put something out there that's gonna change your life i've been trying to get you to do this for a long time but you need to link your bank account to your phone it's too hard you also can have your license my license is on my phone it makes a lot of sense that's my tip for the week my sweet is my sweet is marley
Starting point is 00:45:51 Marley has been so adorably cuddly she just laughs about everything it's actually disgusting how in love with her I am she is ridiculous she's I'm almost equally as in love I didn't think a kid could be that great when I walked in today Matt was holding Marley and she looked at me and she literally immediately put her arms out to come to me for a cuddle and my heart has never felt so warm Brittany's like someone just needs to hold me I was like looking around I was like who me me she loves you she loves me and she loves you because she just hasn't seen anyone else yeah look isolation's been tough time she's like I'll take anyone that walks into my house to save me mom and dad 11 months is my favorite favorite age so far cutting her tooth and she
Starting point is 00:46:34 got her first tooth yeah I mean it's would we call it that yet it's a sliver it's like don't you take this away from her you have to really look but it's there it's her greatest achievement she's just pushed out half a tooth and you're here questioning what that is I'm here for it but it's the cutest little thing you can see like the a dot of why and you're like look at her too um yeah so that's probably really boring for everyone I know no one really likes baby chat but I am obsessed with my child that's my sweet all right Britt what's your suck well you guys remember last week on the podcast I was telling you about how I went to Port Macquarie and with my family for Mother's Day and my beautiful big Ridgeback Lily she was stealing pancakes we had a
Starting point is 00:47:12 great time um and then just a few days later she literally just couldn't breathe properly and she couldn't lay down really out of nowhere and um my parents I wasn't there anymore my parents called whilst I was at work and they just don't ever call while I'm at work and I answered the phone they were crying Lily was there and they said you've got 10 minutes to say goodbye um she just went into heart failure just out of nowhere and she couldn't breathe and dad was just like it's she's so uncomfortable that he didn't even want to wait he's like it's happening now I was bawling because it was like your pet's like your family like you know everyone knows and it just felt weird that I was talking about her last week you know with the pancakes and at least she got one
Starting point is 00:48:02 last good meal but and you know the suckiest thing about it like obviously she's gone that's sucky but because of covid like my lily has been my dad's best friend for nine years they're so close he wasn't even allowed in to put her to be with her when she went to sleep oh i know so all he wanted to do was be with her and like have him be the last thing she sees and he wasn't he had to drop her at the front door and she walked in alone and it was just like i was i couldn't i couldn't deal I was a mess I just like I can't even imagine if something happened to Buster so like I my heart breaks for you honey I'm so sorry that that happened and I'm so sorry that you had to be here and couldn't I know I mean I'm all cried out of the family like it's that's your it's like it's
Starting point is 00:48:49 like having a sibling it's like having a baby another baby it's like I mean everyone's I don't think anyone escapes the loss of a pet everyone at some stage feels that loss so anyway that was one big suck for me um but my sweet something on the up you guys know that i like to act you know i'm a bit of a character rebel wilson what has happened i love rebel wilson i think she's the ants pants i think she's hilarious i love her because she's an educated woman she's lawyer she started acting later in life like I I just think she's brilliant I woke up this is actually like two weeks ago now I woke up and um but you're allowing yourself to revel in it now well I am because it's like it's equally my did you get it I'll revel good one
Starting point is 00:49:40 I was like please don't run away from this one uh hello anybody someone pay me this no it's it's like equal suck and sweet um i just woke up and looked at my phone and it was like rebel wilson started following you on instagram and i was like oh must be a fan account like a rebel wilson fan account and i went on and i was like oh my god it's it's rebel wilson rebel wilson is following me on instagram and i was like i was so perplexed because i have no connection to rebel wilson never met i don't know anyone that knows her um haven't tagged or anything i don't know i just couldn't understand it i was really bewildered but i was the it's the highlight of my life and now you're gonna hit her up so that she'll come on the podcast i would love her on the podcast
Starting point is 00:50:28 if you're listening which you definitely not but if you are we would love you on our podcast i screenshot and send it to her and i was like wtaf what the actual fuck i don't understand i thought okay she's obviously accidentally followed me she's she because why else would you follow me like because you're smoking babe why okay can you hypothesize with me why would robert wilson follow me let's just actually hypothesize this don't know her got nothing to do with her no connection i'm not acting in anything i'm not she follows like 150 people she's got 8 million followers 150 people in the whole world why would you choose me you know when you're scrolling through and then you accidentally hit follow and then one day you're like who the hell is this
Starting point is 00:51:06 person sarah blodati and you're like oh i don't know her and then you unfollow it that's what she did to you so that's gonna be like who the fuck is this britney huckley guy girl i'm on this high right screenshot it up sent it to my dad sent it to i think i showed you i was like what is going on i know that this is not gonna last so i'm really gonna rebel in it why don't you like have you messaged her because then listen deep down i knew that it must have been a mistake and i knew that one day very soon it would change she'd be like actually why am i following this girl or who is this girl because she might have scrolled and accidentally done it and I think I got two weeks out of being rebel's best friend and um she unfollowed me wow that was like a real roller
Starting point is 00:51:50 coaster of emotions imagine my emotion I have I have whiplash right now that started off as your sweet and really ended in your suck I know yeah but you know what I'm still happy that I got two weeks of rebel like I'm so happy that she found something in me for two weeks and I knew it was not gonna last well I mean I know I did sort of picture us as best friends for a while there but um i've had to let that one go well i reckon that's a wrap anyway a bit of a tumultuous episode wasn't it we had some highs and some lows some ins and some outs yeah but we got there some ups and some downs you might say you some may say that probably not many though i actually learned something i found it really interesting researching the whole only fans i didn't know a lot about it
Starting point is 00:52:28 and i hope you guys took something from it i hope you found some interest in it if you really really want go and have a google because there are some funny stories on there too of people like there was this one girl that we didn't actually say she got requested to send her own feces in a tupperware container to a guy that's the sort of stories that are out there so if you want a little chuckle go and have a look there are some weird wild and wonderful people in the world and i really think something like only fans brings them out we'll be back in a couple of days guys with ask uncut so make sure you keep those questions coming in with ask uncut at the top we love reading them we will get back to all of you as soon as possible but know that if we haven't gotten back to you we've
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