Life Uncut - Would you like some steroids with your gold medal?

Episode Date: February 12, 2024

Hey Lifers,Guess who is back on Aus soil?!We're all back in the same room, close enough to touch each other and link toes...Britt had a pretty shit time at the very end of her stay in Scotland but maybe not as bad as Barnaby Joyce. We chat about Britt's incredibly uncomfortable massage, Laura's secret addiction, and her deep need for an HR department!Plus, we chat about the 'enhanced games' which is the Olympics on steroids, quite literally!We weigh up the pros and cons of health, fairness, privilege and entertainment.  If you have an question please send it on it to life uncut podcast on Instagram hereJoin us on tiktok Or join the facebook group here Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friend and share the love because WE LOVE LOVE! xxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands were never ceded. We pay our respects to their elders past and present. Always was, always will be Aboriginal land. This episode was recorded on Darug Walamutta land. Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Brittany and I'm Laura and I'm in studio in the flesh we're back together again I was gonna sing a song but I couldn't come up with one what have we got we are two in the middle I don't know if they're the lyrics but we are together here we are I'm sorry if you're new

and we've lost you that's not usually how this goes down I've been overseas for a couple of months we've been doing some long distance recordings and i'm back in the flesh my feet are on australian soil and my feet are on britney and everything is back to the way that it should be in the life of the world in the life of the world i purposely i don't know if you noticed but i sat our seats a little bit further away so that those claw of your feet cannot touch me because you always reach out with your little clawy mengi toes i will find you no no please don't can i just say firstly i hope everybody had a great weekend i hope everybody has had a wonderful week. I hope everybody's enjoying themselves more than Barnaby Joyce at the

moment, because I think that that... What do you mean? Barnaby Joyce had a great weekend. You're cooked. He's loving life. If you haven't seen, I'm sure you have, Barnaby Joyce was found in Canberra. He was videoed by someone just laying. He'd fallen off a garden bed very late at night on the phone to his wife and then was just laying in the street. One would assume he maybe had had a few wines but you know what it hasn't been confirmed so it's all just accusations at the moment but like what why what is he doing with his life I just think it's funny that this has gone viral like the guy has gone out for after work drinks is in parliament it was a rough day put some bills through he needed a vino he decided to have a lay down kick his legs up yeah it was on

the pavement in public that's fine no Britain I were talking about this last night and she was like I don't know why people get so up in arms about politicians and I was like because they're running the country. This is the best that we've got. Do you think he was on the phone at that point? Who do you think he was on the phone to? Joe Biden? Do you think he's making presidential decisions right now? And no, he's not. He's just probably having phone sex with his wife. In the street. Yeah, let him live. It's deplorable. And I'm not saying this because, look, I do want to make it like on record. Barnaby Joyce and I are not close. I am not tight with him. I'm not protecting him for that reason. I'm actually not protecting him. I just

think it's funny that this is making the news and like people are like just let the guy have a drink if he was getting wasted in parliament it's different if he's doing his parliamentary debate with his feet up on the ground wasted it's a different story no no no I think it's the fact that he hasn't admitted to drinking because we don't know right like there's been no conversation about drinking he just said that he fell off the planter box onto his side and then he just laid there on the phone with his feet up for a while which one would think that that would be an unusual decision to make if you weren't under the influence no but haven't you ever fallen over or something I just laid there and just been like it's too hard to get up I'm gonna hang you for a

while you know how like you drive home in the car sometimes and you're really tired and all you want to do is be in bed like say it's night time but you're so tired that you don't even want to get out of the car and sometimes you sit in the car for like two hours that's what old Barnaby was no it reminds me of being like 18 and you know when you were really drunk but you try and convince your friends that you weren't and then they're like babe you're passed out in a flower bed and You're like, oh yeah, I guess, I guess maybe I did push it a little bit too far last night. That was Barnaby Joyce on the weekend. Do you, okay, prayers for Barnaby Joyce.

I remember, I don't know if your friends did this. I remember in my teenage years when all of my friends and I would sneak out to party. You know, you're in that era, like I'm saying it, Sally's house and Sally's saying it, Betty's house and Betty's saying it, Brittany's house. And you go to a beach party or something, right? I remember the boys and like this big group of friends, because we had this huge group of friends of boys and girls. We're at this party, house party, and we were too young to be drinking

and we were too young to know what being drunk was yet. You know when you're just starting out? But it was cool to be drunk. So the boys tricked one of my friends into – they filled like this bottle of vodka or something with basically water and they had like the tiniest bit in it. And she had been drinking it all night and she was progressively getting drunk up but there was nothing in there.

They faked it. And I just thought that was so – because she was wasted. She was in the planter box at the end of the night but she was faking it because she only had water. I get what you're saying by this. you're saying Barnaby Joyce just did it for Instagram. He wanted to make the media. It was all fake. He actually wasn't drunk. And he was like, how am I going to make it back to the top of daily mail? I haven't been controversial for a while. You know what? Nothing's gone on for the

last little bit. I will lay down here, but I do question when do you think is the point where Barnaby Joyce, he like goes past the point of being controversial where it's no longer. It's like, you just expect it because you would think like, imagine if Penny Wong, for example, was laying in a planter box you would be a little bit more like oh my god what's happened this is crazy but barnaby joyce does it we all laugh no penny wong does it she'd be celebrated people like yes queen you needed a night off a hundred percent because working hard because it's not exactly the the headlines would be completely different it's because no as if if she wouldn't had a night out and she was people would think she was deranged they'd think she'd lost the plot guys

they're still humans politicians are still human beings i know that that might shock you but they still drink alcohol they don't sign their life away to say I'm never going to consume alcohol I don't know I kind of put them in the same place as what I do celebrities and if there was a celebrity rolling around on the street next to a planter box I would feel the same way it was actually so funny I don't know if you saw that like after the fact someone had gone with chalk and drawn an outline of his body on the pavement so it would look like a crime scene you know when the police have got to come back and investigate it was so funny and I actually think that this was more like an ode to the death of his career more than anything there it is right there on the

pavement do you reckon i haven't read the headlines today has anything more been released no not really but anyway i hope everybody else better weekend okay i want an update on the last couple of days you've actually had it's gonna really take it down a notch because you had the shittest last couple of days in scotland ben got sick i saw a video of you sleeping in separate beds with masks on it was very reminiscent of like 2020 I don't even know what year I'm in 2022 just COVID no the last few days were actually a disaster we had the last three days together and only one day off okay so he was still working supposedly playing football and whatever and then we had one day off where he had planned bless his soul a full like spa day for the two of us that was

you know like thermal pools and saunas and massage and like just that we were in a really nice hotel lush so we're supposed to spend the day together just doing hashtag health whatever i don't know anyway after the match three days before so he's supposed to play them we're having the day off after the match he just started to get really unwell really quickly and long story short he ended up in hospital with this they still don't know exactly what it was but a hardcore infection i'm talking vomiting gastro fevers like he was he had a fever of like 38 degrees plus but he was freezing like he was begging for blankets they're like we can't give you a blanket because you're about to burn up and die so we spent the night in the hospital and i was like

the dedicated girlfriend you know like just nothing you can do right tapping the back that's it dedicated girlfriend i was his back but i was like tapping his back and he's like babe in the nicest way possible can you not touch me and i was like okay that's fine because you know when you're so unwell and you're hurting you don't want any like your skin hurts you know you don't want anyone to touch you there's nothing worse than someone patting or rubbing your back when you're like i just want everything to stop see i love a back rub when i'm unwell that feeling of somebody with big slow rubs on your back is like my favorite thing to do anyway he was highly contagious so i shouldn't have been doing it anyway so i ended up being the other side of the

room so the next three days our last three days together we had to get a hotel room that had two separate beds on either side and we walked around in gloves apron face mask we had antiseptic wipes everywhere we couldn't touch we couldn't do anything so i didn't even kiss him or cuddle him goodbye nothing for the last three days it was a disaster did you realize were you like I expected that we would have more sex than this and now it's ended it ended three days ago and I didn't even get to fully enjoy what it was yeah I had saved uh like a lingerie set I had saved it for the end put it on and wear it with a face mask it was the other side of the room it did didn't land with the plastic gloves didn't land he's gone oh you got the latex vibe yeah dance for

me no but it was like it just didn't and you know it's fine things don't go to plan but when i'm not gonna see him for another four months losing three of your last days together that's sad is sad and especially when one of them would plan to spend the day together so i went to the spa by i got the massages by myself sherry my sister sherry came and i'm like not funny no haha no not funny funny but he's very unwell in his room can't you know when you've been fever and vomiting for days you can't move and I was like babe do you actually mind if I just go and get my massage it's like just go so I went down and got my massage now I know you don't like massages Laura that was a big part of the live show you don't like people rubbing you down and touching

you but I love you're a waste of time I do they are not like I do like them but so often they're just not good enough so I leave disappointed it's like it's like bad sex do you know me like I don't want bad sex i like sex but i don't want bad sex this reminds me do you remember that quote from she's from harry potter what's her name like miriam margles or something and she's like radish or sex would you rather have a radish than sex if it was good sex then i would rather have sex but if it was bad sex i'd rather have a radish okay i missed that trending but that was very funny fuck i would rather have a radish too yeah okay so i would rather have a bad massage any day than that no i don't care as long as

someone's rubbing my body down it's more than a good radish yeah i mean hard decision yes i'd rather someone be rubbing me down so i well i go to get this massage and i was thinking of you in this moment actually Laura which is very unusual but turned on yes is that what you want to hear not my partner Ben it was you it was you I mean he was in fucking late I was shitting himself so I'm glad you weren't thinking of him so the ladies were rubbing me down and you know they start at the top and she was working down to the legs he was so quiet she was rubbing up my legs and she was really like trying to get into my hamstrings because they're like pretty tight I've got really tight hamstring and it was dead silent and she'd only

decided the legs and she went up the legs and then she just did the biggest fart the biggest fart and it was so quiet and you know when your face is down and I just got the giggles like you know when you're like I was biting my lip because you know when something happens and it's inappropriate are you not supposed to laugh so my head's in the thing and she's her hands are at my butt basically and she's farted and it was silent and then she only stopped for that one second and I could go I could tell she was like do I say sorry excuse me or does she keep going and she's a professional she kept going I don't know if you've ever had this moment where something sets you off and once you've gone you're gone I was hysterically laughing I was shaking of laughter so I had to

cover it up and say sorry I'm really ticklish on my legs can you not massage them so I so I I sacrificed my whole lower body massage because I had to cover up and say that I was ticklish because she farted and I felt sorry for her. And I think she knew. She was like, oh, you're ticklish? And I was like, yeah, sorry, ticklish. So then she had to go back up to the top. So I just had the whole thing on the top and nothing on the bottom

and a fart. No, do you know what? I disagree, Britt. You don't need to take the fall for a fart. You shouldn't have taken that one. It's not your job to make her feel less uncomfortable. I wasn't taking the fall for the fart, but I couldn't stop laughing and it was rude.

The giggles were – they were in full force and anyone listening at home knows when you are set off like that. It's probably happened to me four times in my life, always with my sister Sherry actually. No, we do it in radio whenever we've got to read ads. Oh, yeah. And you just – you can't. If someone was like, I'm giving you a million dollars to stop laughing,

you can't because it's set in your soul. Anyway, they were my last days. So then I said goodbye to Ben across the room with my latex glove. We put our fingers out like E.T. You know how E.T. puts his finger out? I was like, love you. And that was the last four days. I mean, I know it's shit.

I know. Literally. There was human shit everywhere. No, I know. I know it's hard. Like, I mean, we've spoken about it loads, especially those few days after leaving where you're like, oh my God, my life is back to normal, which is weird

because I've just been living this alternate life in another country. Totally. I know it's really hard, but we're really happy to have you back. Yeah. Don't leave me again. Okay. Well, probably we'll leave you again at some point, but I'm back and it feels good.

As good as the massage? It wasn't because of the massage. Okay. Well, I mean, look, very brief update on my life. I feel like there's been a lot that's been happening. I bought some more plants. My daughter had a birthday party. Really though, like it's set in. I bought some variegated monsteras now. If you're a plant person, that will literally get you off. You will come in your pants hearing that. I mean, if you're not a plant person, you'll think I'm crazy, which is what my husband thinks I am. And I'm okay with that. So I went to Laura's house last night. I had to drop some stuff off.

We had some takeaway. We had a little catch up and it is a jungle. It's the first time I've seen it with my own eyes there are plants everywhere it just happened and i want to take you back a minute laura laura has now she has like these little lights that she puts on everything she cares for them she's got all this amazing spray and she wraps them in foil and she's propagating she moves them around she moves them around i want to take you back a little while to when i had said on this podcast because i also went through a plant phase a little while ago you killed them though no i did research about wi-fi and how it can affect plants and i told you and you laughed in my face and I also brought a study to you Laura about how talking to your plants

with like positive affirmations and telling them they're like a shit plant like the difference negative and positive can really affect the plant because a plant's a living creature and you laughed in my face and said it was ridiculous well I caught Laura talking to her plants last night no yes you did you were like good little plant look at your leaves growing look like little variation no do you know what you actually did Britt came in and she brought this up last night She told me to study. She reminded me of the moment. And then she walked around the house.

She walked around the house swearing at my plants, calling them names. She was like, fuck you, plant. You're a fucking shit plant. But I didn't mean it, but I was just trying to prove a point to see if it dies. She was like, you're in an ugly pot. That pot's a little bit better, but that pot sucks. No, I was like, how do you feel that that plant has a better pot? She was mean to all my plants in a bid to bring them down.

and I just think that that is so base what a low form of human you are that you would try and kill my plants on the spot I know because it's not gonna kill them all better I told them all they were beautiful and not to listen to anybody and also you've been really mean I didn't judge the plant itself I did it surroundings like I told it that its pots were bad that the others were getting better light like you walked into the office and I was like Brit what you're wearing is shit that's what you did to my plants oh how they're turntables Laura because you you went for me when i brought this study up to you i talk to my plants and i treat them well and i don't have them next to the wi-fi router this is true anyway mine are thriving and yours are dead so let's

let's unpack who's doing it right can i okay no more plant chat i'm really sorry i know i know it's weird you've got someone from facebook dropping over plants this afternoon laura's like i've got to get home straight after the record i was like why have you got a meeting she's like well someone from facebook marketplace is dropping me a plant i bought a plant on facebook marketplace but now i'm at the point now where i have to sneak them in because matt can't know that i have any more so i told matt i was taking lola to the park and we went to bunnings and we bought plants i don't know what's happened you have a proper this i've heard i have a hyper fixation and it's on plants now yeah this is actually it's called plant addiction yeah you

have a plant addiction yeah i do and it's there are recovery forums for you it's a 12-step program fuck okay something i did want to tell you guys because it's quite funny and i i don't know if because I I'll hear it out I don't know if this is going to come back to bite me in the ass probably if I made a massive mistake here or if maybe I got through scot-free okay so at Tony May I have a beautiful employee her name is Julia she is my social media girl she's been with us for quite a few months now and she does like all of our TikToks and some of our reels and stuff on Instagram she helps me create content now in order for her to do that I took into the office one of my old phones like my you know the phone that I had before this one I was like it's just at home

it's not being used I took it into the office and like you know it had some of my old photos in it but I went through and I deleted stuff anyway she's had that now for probably a year like a full year and on Friday something happened she wasn't in the office and on Friday I was like I need to go and get something I'll just download it off the phone like there should be it was a TikTok that she'd made and it was a reel that would have been saved into the folders and I was like I'll just go into Splice I'll download it I'll airdrop to my phone so I open up the photo app and I realize that every single photo from my camera roll has been sinking to the office phone that's what it does every single one I didn't know that they were connected

now I don't have embarrassing shit like dick pics or anything like that but I have sex whips are on I don't have like because we're past the dick pic phase we're past the sexy photo phase but there are two things on that phone that if she went deep in my camera roll actually there's three things one is the birth of my children. That is on my phone. The lesser of the three evils is there's lots of photos of my face, but not taking in like a cute, I'm taking a selfie. Anytime I have a skin thing or something, I'll just take really, really expressionless photos of like a swollen eye or a pimple or like my melasma. There's hundreds of photos of me taking like weird selfies of skin things on my face. And I'm talking like, I don't take one photo. I take like 50 of them. And then

do you guys remember how i talked about how i want a labiaplasty yeah so there's photos of my labia on that phone in not a sexy way in me trying to see like how far down does my left labia hang then my right labia there are photos of my labia i just picture you going hey hey julia babe i just have played some photos um can you just turn that into real she opens up the phone and it's just your labia she's like what am i supposed to do we put jewelry on the labia are you piercing your labia i'm just imagining because they kind of close up so i'm imagining her like zooming in and being like is that a minute steak is that a labia like where are we at is that a propagation it's from the deli section what is this laura you have some soft cut meats on your phone what

what is that did you like a charcuterie did you have a dinner party didn't ask me i wonder how long and how close like what level of zoom she had to do till she realized it was a labia oh no it's pretty obvious it's a labia but my thing is maybe she didn't look so it's either bro she looked she looked if your boss gives you a phone that is in your possession 24 7 and it has her whole history on there you i hate to break it to you're looking you're going through every single photo do you reckon yes wouldn't you tell your boss that their iCloud was syncing to the phone that you were using she probably assumed so she's probably like oh Obviously, she's fine with me seeing her entire life.

To be fair, I went back through those photos on Saturday and I was like, probably will get a labiaplasty, but also, fuck, did not want my 21-year-old staff to look through it. She would be like, is that what happens after birth? She's never having kids now. She's terrified. That is the best contraception you ever need, everyone. Are you going to talk to her about it?

No. No HR reasons? I think you did. i think you crossed some boundaries like i've given her trauma like i've impacted trauma on my staff i can just see how the conversation's gonna go too would you like to come in and discuss the labia she's like i don't want to i've seen things don't make me do it pay me more laura i don't know if you remember a few years ago there was this meme that was trending that said there should be an olympics where athletes can take as many drugs as they want

like fuck it let's see how high humans can really jump this has come into fruition there is a new olympic games happening this year it has been confirmed and it is called the enhanced games what it is is literally an olympics on steroids let's call it what it is exactly it should be called the olympics on steroids it is it's literally the olympics but on steroids yeah so this is the brainchild now you guys might have seen this trending all over the news in Australia at the moment because there have been a lot of Australian athletes that have come out and commented on it. It's the brainchild of this Aussie businessman named Aaron D'Souza. Now he has gone and got venture capitalist backing from billionaires around the world. One of them is

like the PayPal founder, Peter Thiel, who is controversial in his own right. But they've basically thrown millions and millions of dollars towards this. So some of the richest people have been like, yeah, we want to go and see how far humans can go when they've got these drugs behind them. Now, this is a wild statistic, but there was an anonymous survey done on Olympians and 44% of those athletes anonymously admitted to using banned substances. But the thing is only 1% of those athletes are getting caught. So only 1% are being banned from the Olympics because they've been caught doping or taking any sort of enhancement, but 44% have said that they do it. Now that's nearly 50% of our Olympians. So all of a sudden you look at the Olympics in a different

light because you're like this isn't a fair playing ground what about all these clean athletes that are training for four years at a time for this one swimming race or this one running race that are not going to have a chance in hell because there are other athletes illegally doping yeah but isn't there like a wild variation between what constitutes a banned medication like i'm pretty sure that they can't use nasal sprays for example and let's say nasal sprays versus taking steroids huge caveat in between so like i mean i guess that those statistics could probably be cut in different ways. But no, Britt has wanted to talk about this for weeks. And I was like, I was like talking about the steroid Olympics on Life Uncut feels like a fucking weird wedge

and it feels like a weird place to go. But anyway, this got me over the line. So James Magnusson, who was my co-star on Dancing with the Stars. He's from Port Macquarie, where I'm from. Irrelevant information, but also good to know. He's also an Olympian. He's a decorated Australian Olympian. He's a decorated Australian Olympian. He's also in media, has been extremely successful in his own right, but now he's a retired athlete. And he had something really interesting to say on this. And this is kind of what swayed my opinion a little bit. Yeah, there's a couple of things. Look, first and foremost, it's cash. You know, when you sit around at the pub with your mates and you say, what would you do for a million bucks?

I'd try and break a world record for a million bucks. So that was the first thing. So I'm 32 years old. As far as my athletic peak, history says that it's behind me. The enhanced games say it's not. Let's find out. Is this a genuine avenue for athletes post-career to continue their earning potential, to continue to perform at a world-class event? And the third thing, entertainment. Sport is about entertainment. Sometimes we get too caught up and take sport too seriously and think that we're playing for life or death out there. Sport's about entertainment. I want to see the fastest athletes in the world. So far, that's been at the Olympic games we've gone from test cricket to t20 we've gone from pga to live golf we've got ronaldo

playing in the saudi league in soccer who says this can't be the next live golf after listening to this i very much resonated with what james was saying and the reason for that is because if you do look at the normal olympics and i get that we have been conditioned to think that it is the and and it is obviously it's the fastest the strongest the most incredible athletes that are alive of their time right and they're all setting records and breaking records and everything and it's incredible to watch but i guess if it's this like underground and known thing that people within the olympics are doing steroids or they're taking enhancement drugs and it's kind of that taboo thing that no one talks about it's shrouded in so much shame and secrecy and scandal because it is

in essence cheating. And we saw it happen with Lance Armstrong when it all came out that he'd been doping the whole fucking time, like scandal, scandal, scandal. What I think is interesting about this and having like two very separate Olympics is that if somebody signs themselves up to play or perform in the enhanced Olympics, they no longer can do it in the normal Olympics. So what it kind of does is it weeds out those people, right? The people who want to take enhancement drugs are going to be over here jumping higher than anyone's ever jumped. And then the rest of them are going to be you know going to the normal olympics i guess it kind of makes it a more even playing field and i mean these are all adults who have full agency over their bodies they can decide

what they put into it what they do with it but i do think it's interesting the backlash that james is receiving from this and there are a few commentators one of them was a nrl star martin lang who has come out and said that it's disgraceful what a disgraceful example to set for children and aspiring young athletes and to that I kind of think why do we always go back to this debate of like think of the children because and I'm not saying this to defend James by any means but like it's not every single athlete's responsibility for their entire life to do everything being held up as like an inspiration for children and I know that it kind of comes with the territory right like if you're a professional athlete then you are set an example for children and it's like a very

like camaraderie Australian thing to do. But I also kind of think, okay, these people are also doing it for their own financial gain. The thing that sets this Olympics apart is that there's going to be huge financial backing and a huge opportunity to win incredible amounts of money. And what's been dangled over Jay Magnusson's sort of, you know, the carrot that's been dangled over him is that if he can set a new record at the enhanced Olympics, which is quite a nice way of putting it he will be up for winning 1.5 million dollars which is so much more than anybody would have the opportunity of winning at the normal olympics but when we think about i mean there's so many points i want to talk about but when we think about you know think of the children

what a bad example the guy's an olympian naturally he's not a bad example he's dedicated his whole life to training to winning medals for his country to getting where he is now he's at a point where he has an opportunity to see how far he can go with help to win money he's not out there he's not telling people to go and shoot up he's like when people like you're such a bad example he's not let out their party and raging i mean he might be we don't know he's not putting that on social media but he's but he's decided to under medical guidelines take something that is and we don't know what it's going to be like we don't know what enhancements people are going to take but under a complete medical team like he said he's going to go to the us to do it properly with

people that this is their entire life they dedicate to knowing what to give an athlete to enhance them he's going to do it properly to see how far he can push his body and also hopefully win one and a half million dollars did you guys know the average salary for an olympian is like 75 to 100 000 like they dedicate their entire life they have to train all day every day i know this firsthand because i actually know a few people that have been to the olympics and they all say it's impossible to make money like you can barely live you have to beg sponsors to give you money to continue to stay afloat so that you have the chance to go and represent your country we've had this conversation before with the women's AFL we had Moana Hope on saying she had

to give up the sport because she couldn't afford to live the fact that now that they can do what they have trained their whole life to do under medical guidelines and we're going to get into that in a minute I understand why people are going to be tempted to do this and as another Aussie Olympian Liesl Jones who is so highly decorated she's also come out and said I get it i'm for it i'd love to watch it if it's going to weed out people from taking records from clean people and putting them into a doping section where people know straight down the middle you're either in your clean olympics or you're doping as long as it's not taking world records from clean people so once the doping people win their world record as long as in the guinness world

record books it doesn't wipe that away like two separate very separate olympics and very separate records i'm sort of on board with it also sports entertainment man imagine watching 100 meter hurdles with someone on steroids that shit's going to be fire but this is the thing right like steroids and steroid abuse and steroid use has always been prolific like look at arnold schwarzenegger for example it is well reported now that when he was at the absolute height of his fame and his success that he was on the juice but the thing is he never would have admitted it at the time and I guess now knowing that retroactively or retrospectively that does it change anything I don't know and maybe it's because we have been conditioned to think that

it is so shameful and I'm not I'm not saying this as in like I'm also not saying this is like think of the people on roids I don't have sympathy for them but I do think that we've created a system where if you are taking enhancements it is the definition of cheating and therefore it's the cheating that's shameful right so if you create an olympics whether you take that away and people are allowed to do and be and whatever you kind of like clean cut that down the middle now i think about this argument of well what example does that set for the children and i think that that is kind of like a very base argument the bigger argument that i worry about and that i think we will probably see is this conversation around privilege because if there is a huge amount of money that's

up for grabs. There will be people who have money already, who come from Western countries where they have access to the right type of medication, the right type of doctors, the right type of sort of supervision for this. And then there will be people who will do these Olympics, this like enhanced Olympics, because there is so much money at stake to be won, but they're coming from a lack of privilege, a lack of money, a lack of funding, a lack of resources. And I think that that creates a power dynamic where those people will be at risk because they will take a greater risk to win because the winning means more to them. And I think that that's probably the disparity that's going to be created by these Olympics. Yeah, I agree. But I also think to some level, you have

to have a level of privilege to be in the clean Olympics anyway, because nobody can train day in and day out in a sport without having some form of assistance. Now, a lot of Australians, I can't speak around the rest of the world, but you have to have gotten to a certain level by a certain age yourself and then you can go to places like the Australian Institute of Sport and you can get scholarships that will help you from there but I think there's always some level of privilege anyway but when we turn to safety because the next big conversation is safety you know like this is so unsafe people are going to be having heart attacks and and pushing themselves too far and that's absolutely accurate I think people probably will do that if they're not doing it

properly but it's interesting what Aaron D'Souza who's the founder what he says about it he says let's be clear drug testing is about fairness not safety enhanced games aims to be the safest sporting event in the world at the enhanced games we prioritize athlete safety first in partnership with top scientists and clinicians we're developing a full system medical pre-competition screening protocol to protect athletes competing in the enhanced games what he's saying is and i'll summarize it because he goes on for a long time basically they're putting together a whole lot of physiological tests heart blood cholesterol and they've got all of these levels that you you can't be above them right so they're still going to be a level

of safety they're like you cannot go and compete till we've done a full physical on you and if you are in a level that is not safe we won't let you compete because we're not going to risk you going out there and having a heart attack that testing isn't done in the olympics and it's not done in most sports the only testing that is done is a piss test to see if you're on the drugs but they're not testing that you're safe to go and perform yeah so in fact if this is true this will be a safer sport because every athlete is going to be tested before they go out i mean the counter argument to that though is so when someone gets ruled out of the competition it's because they've already reached a level that is unsafe to them so there will be people that toppled over that that

may be then ruled out of competing but they've already done that abuse to their body there are side effects from anabolic steroids like infertility erectile dysfunction hair loss severe acne like there are other things that can happen i mean i'm sure people are quite happy to forfeit some of those things in order to win a lot of money but i guess it comes down to not just the short-term effects that you're having on your body to compete but what are those long-term effects that you're having in your body which people can't test for because it could be showing up in a decade's time look overall do I want to see someone jump fucking four meters and you know run faster than Usain Bolt yes I would watch it do I want my kids to be aspiring to be doping

athletes probably not but also what do you want to be when you're older oh no I want to be a doping athlete but I also think that there's many other things that I think we need to like protect the kids from and I think ultimately we do live in an age now where there is this incredible push towards science-based wellness and this idea of like how far can you push your body i mean there's people like brian johnston who we've spoken about i think we spoke about him on radio so it may not have been on the podcast but we spoke about he's this guy who's like yeah fucking in his 50s or 60s or something and he's trying to find the fountain of youth he spends millions of dollars a year on on having a full team of people to reverse his age he even takes the blood from

his sons to re-put them back in his body to try and hold on to his youth like he's extreme it's insane but there is the technology that's out there and I think you know you can fight the system or you can swim with the river sometimes and I think in this instance it is the base of entertainment and it is swimming with the river do you know what I think I think this is really shocking right now like everything is when the world is progressing and there is the first time for something we're breaking the rules for the first time when marijuana became legal for the first time in a country it's so shocking and nobody can get their head around the fact that this could be the way of the future but i think this will be the way of the future and at the end

of the day people have autonomy over their own body and if they are making the decision to put that into their body to do this who are we to stop them and also if it is going to be making sport as we know it cleaner safer and fairer and these individuals are making the decision on their own who are we to not watch it i'm going to get the popcorn sit back and enjoy it i'm watching know i think it's probably the fear that people too many people especially when there's no money to be made in the olympics too many people will turn away from the traditional olympics and that maybe this might become the benchmark rather than the exception because at the moment there's like 900 athletes who have signed up across like 900 professional athletes across the world who have

put their head up and said that they would consider already doping you know you're like fine i've been doing this for years and you know some of them are retired some of them are looking for a way to get back into the sport where they've made their money from previously or their income from but also it makes me think okay and I know that this might be a little bit of a tenuous link but hear me out I think about drug testing and pill testing at festivals right and the argument of like well if you do pill testing at festivals more people are gonna do pills it's the same argument I don't know whether it means that it's going to result in more people doing it or it's more visibility maybe it will because I guess we do celebrate athletes and so therefore having

someone who's winning the doping olympics would mean that they're more celebrated but i don't think it necessarily means that it's going to have this direct impact on people wanting to take steroids but you know i guess we have to wait and see there's enough people there's enough people at the gym on creatine fuck i've got like four tubs of that in our cupboard at the moment matt and his protein and creatine maybe matt's gonna sign up you do need more money for propagation you do think about all the monsteros i could buy guys we had some fucking funny accidentally unfiltered come through this week this is where you write in your most embarrassing story my favorite ones where you're actually living it

like you've written to us you're like oh my god this is happening to me right now i've locked myself in my bathroom when you are thinking of us in your moment of crisis it honors me we feel connected to you like a deep connection okay this one gave me a chuckle and it reminds me of something you told us at the start of this episode laura i started stakes because it's got something to do with deli meats. She was not at the deli, no. I started a new job recently working from home and I love listening to audio books.

Now, while working in the privacy of said home, I have been listening to the Fifty Shades of Grey books. I'm up to episode three. I also like to listen to many other steamy stories. My boss just sent me a random email that said, Hiya, just wanted to bring it to your attention that our work-issued laptops record everything all day long. My boss had been listening to me listening to audio porn

while on work hours. Who is at home typing a thesis listening to Fifty Shades of Grey on work hours? Fifty Shades of Grey is fine. That's fine. Whilst working? I don't mind. No, because I was just thinking of like my employee.

i was like if my employee was working and kisha's our only one so i was like if my employee was at home working listening to porn simultaneously sorry butter boy we have two employees now butter boy's in the corner being like what am i a ham sandwich i i mean like i love porn love audio porn nothing against that but i don't think you can be working and listening to porn okay i disagree because i do not think everybody needs a bit of relaxation in their lives i do not think that 50 shades of gray is porn it's just a book i think it is the most vanilla porn that you could ever read and i think what's the difference between having a podcast on in the background versus listening to like an audiobook also if you're going to record your

stuff at least tell them tell them beforehand don't tell them after the fact yeah that's a whole nother discussion okay no you can't just have a secret squirrel laptop that records at home it's so it's yeah it's actually like no i'm not okay with this and also why are you recording them because they're working from home so you want to make sure that they're sitting in front of their laptop all the time like there's so many layers of you're not in the wrong here by listening to 50 shades of gray your employees i assume it's not video recording i think it's just what's coming out of it's just because it's a work laptop that's only supposed to be used for work purposes i'm assuming he just has access to the work laptop he's logged in and listened to her porn

that's my assumption, but yeah, I'd scream in legalities. I think there's some problems there. Anyway, guys. All right. Well, that is it from us today. Give you a little heads up on tomorrow's episode. We are doing an episode all around anxiety. We're speaking to Anna, the anxiety coach. It's been ages since we did a deep dive on anxiety. It is something that I think a lot of people will be able to get something out of how to manage anxiety. Also like the prevalence of it? Is it something that's increased recently? Because I think that there's so many more conversations around anxiety these days. Is that nature? Is it what we're being exposed to? Or is it that we're more able to speak about it? I think is a really interesting thing to unpack. Anna is

a complete expert in this topic. So if you or someone in your life struggles with anxiety, this will be an episode for you. Also, if you're single and you're feeling anxious about it, because tomorrow is Valentine's Day, what a day to have that on, hey? We really skimmed over the fact that it's v-day tomorrow isn't it i just think valentine's day is such like a crock of shit i say that but like i've never disliked getting a present on valentine's day but i agree with you but like i don't expect a present but if i have one i'm not going to be like i can't believe you got me a present speaking of i've gotten that nothing and i have not thought about it until this moment i'm really bad with presents i'm really bad why would you buy him a present on

v-day when you think it's a crock of shit that defeats the whole purpose buying one next week for the just for the sake of it i know i know i just think you know you see everyone there at woolies at two o'clock in the afternoon who forgot to get a present they're getting a shit card and a shit flower and it's just like there's no thought you know and it's not about not buying something from woolies that's not my point my point is is like if you left it to two o'clock in the afternoon to buy something on valentine's day you might as well not do it at all anyway that's my rant yeah wow

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