Life Wide Open with CboysTV - Axell Hodges on Overcoming Injuries, Chasing Worlds Firsts & Getting Evan Back on Top

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

In today’s episode we are joined by 12 time X game Medalist, Freestyle Legend, Axell Hodges. We talk how he got Evans Mojo back, Setbacks from Injuries, Building Slayground Chaos at his wedding, Hanging with His dad, learning to crash, World records, and Racing Vs Freestyle. What Its like playing his legendary compound The Slayground in a video game, and more. Legendary time with one of the coolest and best to do it. EnjoyAxell’s Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@AxellHodges96 Store: https://slayco.store/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/axellhodges/?hl=en Sign up for your $1 per month trail at https://www.shopify.com/wideopen Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/wideopen/ #rulapod #ad Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at https://www.square.com/go/WIDEOPEN! #squarepod #ad Our listeners get the Harry’s Plus Trial Set for only $10 at https://www.Harry's.com/WIDEOPEN  #Harryspod #ad Get your free life insurance quote at https://www.ethos.com/wideopen To watch the podcast on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/LifeWideOpenYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/LifeWideOpenWithCboysTV⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be amazing! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/LifeWideOpenWithCboysTV⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can also check out our main YouTube channel CboysTV: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/CboysTV⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

All those kids that are saying Evan fell off on TikTok, I'd like to see them do anything that Evan has done on a crotch rocket. Dirt bikers will talk crap on a quad, but it's like, dude, I love riding quads. That's why I just make it looks. I just love doing those wheelies. So effortless, though. My dad was pinned in the thorn. Yeah, you know, trying to save his life. Like, I've jumped 396 feet successfully. Ever contemplating, like, maybe this isn't worth it? It took me a while to, like, want to have fun on my dirt bike again. How you liking the cold? I already know how Gabby's liking the cold, but what are you thinking?

I like the cold. I don't mind the cold. Today was perfect riding weather. Yeah, it was pretty nice. I love wearing huddies, so, huddy season. Dude, same. Right now is perfect. Yeah.

Yeah, I was worried about the cold with you guys coming up, but, uh, and the sprinter van up here, and you're like, no, I actually like the cold. I was like, oh, well, this is my, this is my actually work. Yeah, and I've experienced the real Minnesota cold before, so this isn't cold. Because you used to, you used to, you used to rip. Snowbikes. Yeah, when they did snow bikes and X-Games. Yeah, I was ripping those.

So I'd go to ERX up and I forget what the town was in Minnesota. Yeah, yeah. First time I went through it, yeah, it was negative 40. I had the flu. I was like, this is gnarly. Trying to ride with numb hands holding on to that thing. Ben, you wrote a snow bike at E.R.X ones, didn't you? Yeah, I did.

I crashed. I crashed. Yeah, I crashed, too. I went over the bars, though. I came off the face and my bike ran out of gas, mid-air. and I just, like, endowed. Did it hit you? I don't know, I don't,

like a snow bike with the big old track if that thing tackled? I think I got out of the way, but we were doing a player shoot. And all they kept saying the entire time was don't crash. Just like, don't do anything you're not comfortable with.

Don't crash. Before anything, before you rode around a berm, don't crash. Yeah, they were tweaked. They put it out there for sure. They were just like super corporate, super tweaking.

And I was like, oh, I'm definitely. That's even scarier. Like, you know, someone who's not to crash. All you're going to think about is crashing. Yeah, I was like, okay, well, I don't know if I'm the right guy then, like, how gnarly is this going to be? And they're like, well, we need you to get up there pretty high. And I'm like, dude, I'm not the guy for this.

But okay, I'll do it. I'll do it. And then sure enough, I end up winding up and they're like, oh, my gosh. Who is responsible for the fuel? Probably me. Probably. I mean, it was probably. Yeah, it was probably.

I don't know if it was your bike or a gas pretty quick, too, because you're in deep snow. Oh, oh, oh, like you're burning through quicker than you think you are. Well, Axel Hodgers, welcome on the podcast, brother. We're happy to have you here. Thank you, C-boys. Thank you for having me. Great to have you, brother. Yeah, it's been a great past couple of two days.

Yeah. Helping Evan get his mojo back on the bike, kind of showing him the way. I think we found it. Yeah, you definitely found it, you got it, you got it back. Yeah, I don't think he fully lost it. He came out, he was greased and jumps. He looked good to me. Yeah, it looked great.

A couple of cobwebs. Yeah, just needed some confidence back. No, dude, me and C.J. were saying that, too. We were like, I was going to do one lap, and Axel is going to be like, what am I out here? You're, like, why am I here? Why am I? or like hit a jump at all or anything probably coming up.

Yeah, well, I've seen him do wheelies on the internet and stuff. I haven't seen him hit jumps, but he started jumping. He's seemed like he's in control. He's not, not squirly looking stuff. Yeah, I think the, uh, the TikTok commenters and, and all the haters maybe got a little carried away with, uh, Evan fell off train. Might have got blown out of proportion a little bit, but I hit up our boy Rich before Rich got too big time to text me back.

And, uh, Rich's boys with Axel. And I was like, yo, can you link me with Axel? I want Axel to come back and take Evan on and be his mentor to get his mojo back. And so Rich lined us up. And, yeah, I appreciate you for coming out here. And the one question that you did ask Axel was, how's the weather been? Is it going to be pretty nice? And I don't know if you noticed, I don't know if you noticed, but I didn't answer.

I didn't answer that question. I just, like, texted you back to whatever your next question was. I was like, dude, I don't want to be honest with them, but it's, it sucks. it sucks but yeah dude at least it's not midwinter negative 40 it's yeah it could always be worse it could always be worth your wife was not loving it but yeah she i was laughing she was filming and she's like my fingers are so cold she took the gloves off i gave her they're like red she has them in my exhaust pipe trying to warm them up yeah like you good she's like yeah but we appreciate you coming up brother we've been we've been fans for a long time yeah i've actually i went to like

message you guys last night i tagged you guys in a post on my instagram i saw you guys text me in 2017 i kind of felt like an a hole. I didn't reply, but you big time. What were we saying? What were we saying? I don't know. I think I honestly didn't see it, but I think it was when I was at ERX in the snow bike stuff. You guys are like, yo, we're a group of seven guys. I'm like, Ryan, do you guys want to come ride? I went to tag you in a story last night. I saw that popped up in my DM. I'm like, no way. These guys hit me up so long ago. So yeah, I'm glad it finally worked out. It's funny because now, you know, we get messages like that too of people being like, yo we have a track we like to ride you guys like to ride you should come and hang out you know

when we're traveling and whatnot and we don't see them there's a lot of messages right so it does get kind of lost in it but uh yeah i always wondered like man i think we're probably going to be friends one day and i wonder if he's ever going to see that that message yeah so when you said that this one i was laughing then you guys haven't even had like a backup message with some arrows pointed we double tapped it we doubled down it's cool though having you here because you're definitely like an inspiration behind just what we're doing here I mean we've been watching you for a long time and I remember like your first X games and everything just watching that on TV and it was cool to see you go from Instagram to to X

games and all that but I mean also like blowing up our spot here of being fans I went and found this video from X games in 28 you found it dude let's go you should have really saved yourself you should have saved this one yeah because the X games was in Minnesota Yeah, I have one corner pipe in 2018, I think. And we were all just very, very, very excited about you at the time. That in particular way. Dude, yeah, I just, I just loved you, bro. I still do, but here's a video.

Yo, Axel. Axel. I love you, dude. What was that? Was I doing the interview thing? Yeah, yep. Dude, that's crazy. I remember that.

I love you. I got a thing I remember that. I remember big memories like that sitting there. Yeah, that's pretty funny. I remember on the way home, Ben goes, bro, Axel should come and ride with us. I remember at the time being like, what the fuck is he going to do?

We're the fuck what was he going to ride? Like at the time, we didn't have a track or anything. We were just riding around in the ditch. And I remember, you know, I mean, Ben's always had big dreams. I'm like, yeah, I don't know about that one. But pretty sure.

Yeah, that seems a little far. I don't know anything like today I had the most fun ride the drive with. We're ripping the driver. There's no doubt about that. Dude, it's amazing how there could be like a twig. on the road and you'll just like bump off that into like a nose wheelie yeah well yeah i just grew up right in my backyard and like having logs and boulders and stuff like that they're just trying to do nose wheelies and trying to find way to get traction on your front wheel that's why you need those

bumps and stuff sometimes when you're on concrete or else you're just going to wash out so bro you spent up riding in the backyard doing that you spent more time on your front wheel than you did on your rear wheel and on both your wheels yeah normally i like doing nose wheelie so much everywhere and And the wheelie to can-can to nose wheelie was the craziest one. I think I did wheelie, can-can-can to seat stand wheel. Oh, okay. All right, all right, it's hard to keep them all straight. I did your wheelie to nose wheelie on the double.

I should have added a no-ful can-out. The double was insane. You're like, I think I might be able to do this and then obviously do it perfect first try. But that was so heavy. Well, it helps too, like it rained a little bit yesterday. And when the dirt's such good traction, it makes it so much easier to hook up and get nose-vely. and that's why you just make it looks so effortless though it make you make it look like it's something very hard and it's like man maybe i could do that like it just goes perfectly every time like

it's just so smooth where do you begin to ride like this like at like when did you start riding can you kind of run us through i guess like probably like my backyard like so when i was five i broke my femur riding a pw 50 so i didn't grow up racing like all the other kids that were racing dirt bikes and stuff so my sister bought a 110 so i would just ride her 110 like every day in the backyard trying to do wheelies up the hills and just i had a lot of friends that skateboard and snowboard and ride BMX so my friends work so good at skating doing like kickflip back tails and stuff so i'm in my backyard on my 110 trying to do like a little whip land wheelie and like that's how i like express myself riding a dirt bike is from a lot of like snowboard and skateboard inspiration and

yeah that's what it looks out in the backyard and yeah and then my brother he grew up competing in snowboarding they always had like the vX 1000 and like we're filming skateboarding and stuff so i like wanted to be like them and started just like filming stuff and want to make cool video so it was always just trying to link together lines and film with the fish eye and do like stuff like that yeah it's guess you ride a dirt bike like somebody rides a skateboard that's really good at riding skateboard you know you have like that steazy style to it where it's like a line and you're like hitting these lines that combos yeah like i don't know like don't don't you wouldn't even see the line until you hit it and you're like oh wow

I guess that works right there. It's like, you're like riding things that almost, like, it's not a traditional, like, jump. I get bored doing the same thing over and over again. So then I'm always just kind of, I think I have ADHD. Like when I'm riding my dirt bike, so I just will wander off and go try to ride stuff. Like, I remember growing up at the track, I'd be in the parking lot, like, bouncing off boulders and stuff, trying to do wheelies and stuff. That's been the best part about watching you still is, is that you're taking dirt biking. It's been around forever.

Everyone's doing it their own way and doing it. essentially different than anyone else ever has, you know, pushing a new boundary. That's cool, too. And then seeing, like, a lot of kids, they're all doing, like, landing wheelies and stuff. And then just, like, even little kids on Stasix now, they're on their 1080 ramps and they're landing wheelies, like, on their seat. I'm like, that's pretty rad. And they'll be tagging me wearing little slayco helmets.

I'm like, that makes me happy to be little kids. And that's how I was. Grew up, I wanted to be Jeremy McGrath. I wanted to be an eight-time Supercross champion just to be so I could be king. But then still get to ride my dirt bike and, like, influence kids like that. So it's a pretty rewarding feeling, like knowing I'm doing something that kids want to be like and they're trying to do too. Yeah.

It's all relatable. Like, I'm not doing like a triple backflip, but I land wheelies. And then I see all kids at the track trying to land wheelies on tabletops and stuff. And it's pretty cool to see it rub off on other people. That is like the best way to describe it as your style made it more relatable for these kids to watch it and be like you versus these kids are not going to be doing. backflips double backflips triple backflips all like the gnarliest of them like a small percentage yeah maybe maybe 0.001% of them but like or there was the time where it was like

i want to ride dirt bikes okay let's get you in some races and then you're like i don't really want to do that either and that's kind of it was a little bit your story too yeah you made riding dirt bike more and i'm just stoked it's still my job too and i enjoy it it doesn't feel like a job i still go out and just have fun and film it and there's just another day riding but then also I could classify it as my work and it's just fun and I always try to like do something new every time I ride too because I get bored I don't want to do the same thing over and over again I like just messing around and sometimes I get lucky and do something on accident I'm like oh that could be a trick the amount of times in you know in our friend group and I'm sure many others oh did you see

the new axi clip did you see what he pulled off now I mean what feels like hundreds of times Yeah, thanks. Like in one of my last video I did Redmond's two, I did like a Superman like over this jump and my back kind of tapped. I'm like, I could fully Superman wheel tap and then catch it. And then one time I was trying to do Superman wheel tap and just bonk it back to my feet. And then one time it bonged back to my feet and I like endo, it almost went over the bars. I'm like, oh, I could fully catch that nose relay. So by like messing up sometimes it like kind of shows me that like what could actually be done. So like by going over the bars, I could be like, oh, I could actually just hit my front break. and keep it in a nose wheelie. And then I did... Makes sense. X Games, Real Moto, years ago, I did a nose wheelie front flip. And I got inspired by that

because when I was racing in 2014, I was doing Daytona Amateur Supercross and I fully came over this, like, Dragon's Back, endowed off the top of it, and pretty much did a front flip to my back completely wadded, exploded my brains out.

And then later down the road, I'm like, dude, if I stayed tucked and like on that crash, maybe I just would. a front flipped and landed it so then i'm like so it's got to work so then we get the airbags out put in the time and so you turn to crash into a trick like if we back up a little you initially got hurt as a young kid and you were saying like your mom basically said no more dirt bikes yeah when i was five i broke my femur pretty bad like i got a head on collision and this guy's foot peg went into my

leg it was compound fracture almost like got my main artery in my leg should almost been dead and after that my mom was just so over dirt bikes but then my sister had a just got a quad around the same time like a little 90 quad and like she ended up having to sell her quad and stuff because she was so over dirt bikes and stuff and then we eventually just got like a family 110 that was supposed to be my sisters and then I just started riding that thing every damn day in the backyard and pretty much became my 110 and just rode that thing for years and then in fifth grade I finally convinced my dad to get me a 150F or 150R the racer Honda yeah yeah those were like and I had those so good you guys had that

those so it was like the 84 stroke 85 version and I remember being a little kid I'm like oh my god this is like a little 450 yeah it is it is like when you're that small though yeah it feels like a 450 you like it was so sick and new like is that what you're on when you like you're you're saying that the gym mom was like oh axel's doing pretty good racing but your mom didn't know yeah so like my dad bought me that bike and we hit it in the barn for a while my mom didn't know we bought it my dad would still ride with all of his buddies like we would go to the star west was the track called Wednesday night after school and I was just going to watch my dad and then I slowly started riding the track and got pretty decent and then I just did like a local race at Paula Raceway which was 30 minutes

from my house and my mom kind of knew by this point I was riding but she didn't know I was racing and then we signed up for a race and they had like a 150 class there I think I won that weekend and I was pretty good at Paula because I just rode that track every day and I did good I won this race this weekend and this gym mom went to the gym and saw my mom she's like well I so did pretty good this I didn't know he was that fast and my mom was like what he's racing and I kind of broke the ice on the racing I think I was like 13 then just kind of doing local races and then from there I started racing a little bit I got a 250 and then started doing the novice class because I never really raced dirt bikes growing up no like six I never had a 65 didn't have an 80 had my 150 I'd ride

after school for fun and then started getting faster and faster got on my 250 started doing novice class and started doing some amateur nationals did all right I went to like my first amateur national was oak hill in Texas. I was 14, and I think I got like a fourth that year in 250 C class. Did a couple others, did all right in the C class. And then the next year we went all in and did all the amateur nationals and went to like World Mini Oak Hill. I think I won some titles throughout like my C class at some of those nationals. And then I ended up winning 250C stock that Loretta's that year. So I got a C class, Loretta Lynn's title. And then just from there, I just thought I was going to be hardcore racer guy. And went B class, did all right in B

class got a couple like california national titles and then got second in 450b at loretta's the following year and i'm stoked on that erin plessinger beat me on that so i'm like that's if anyone was going to beat me i'm glad it was ap yeah i'm a huge ap guy so yeah i love that guy he did with my ass but i got second behind him in one motto and i remember we're going through the 10 commandments we're the only one we're going outside we're going triple triple quad through the 10 commandments i'm like that's pretty badass i was doing that with that guy so yeah i was going to say who Who else was racing with you that's still racing, like, in the 450 class now? RJ Hampshire.

Like, I r J. a little bit. I was B class when he was A class, and then I was doing, like, arena cross at the same time. I went A class, but then I broke my femur again as I went into eight class, switched to Kawasaki's, then I broke my wrist. I had a gnarly concussion, and then A class, like, I never really clicked or did good. And I was trying to do arena cross. So, like, in my age, there was, like, Jordan Smith, R.J. Hampshire.

Oh, it's like Aaron Plessinger. Forkner was racing. He was a little younger than me. I never raised Fortner, but he was kind of at the track when I was there. I can't even tell. That was like 10 years ago now racing. It's hard to remember everyone that was racing.

Were you making money at that stage? Like, were you starting to see like, oh, I could do this long-term? Not racing. Not racing. They weren't paying out. No, and I wasn't doing good enough eight-class. Like, I'm sure if I was doing good, like, I could have made some money,

but I was getting my ass kicked in the A-class. So I was probably in, like, B-class and stuff, making small contingency money. on my debit card I had my Honda card but it was not anything crazy so at what point were you like all right I'm gonna be done with the racing and go more with the freestyle free riding after Loretta's one year they had Monster Cup at the time that was like the big monster energy cup in Vegas and they had the amateur all-star class there which I was racing that on my 250 but in the parking lot they had a best whip contest and that was also like best whip but then if you did good there I think

top three got invited X games from that into best whip so I was racing I could I got my ass kicked in the race. I was miserable, not having fun. My dad was pissed at me. But in the parking lot, I got second in the best whip contest. Then I got invited X games. I made money. And I'm like, that was so much more fun and enjoyable and just sick.

And then I got invited X games out. So it got me into X games. And then ever since then, I never raced my dirt bike again and started doing best whip and free riding and just everything I do now in video parts. You are a parking lot guy. I'm parking lot. You're always ripping the parking lot. driveway parking lot i never really thought about that yeah yeah i went inside race sucked but then i had a good time in the parking lot

yeah i made some money in the parking lot i'm like i'm doing this that is hilarious second place first competition like it's so good like did you do you have like buddies that are like you you can whip axel like you should join the contest or were you just like i can whip i'm gonna join i was starting hitting ramps at the time i was kind of i'm friends with like twitch and guys like that tyler beerman i always looked up Tyler Bierman was a little bit older than me and he was always doing the free riding stuff and I wanted to be like him doing big jumps I just thought that was sick he was doing big jumps big whips and then yeah I just always kind of like that stuff the freestyle stuff and my brothers they grew up watching crusty demons of the dirt and in the 90s and they're just all about Seth Enzo and kind of that type of style and I always thought the riding freestyle stuff was cool too and even like Jeremy McGrath back in the day I grew up down the road from him he was kind of just like a childhood friend growing up and I've always just watched him and all the stuff

he did which he was a racer but he had such good style and had all of his videos too and like he's the first guy I saw landing in a wheelie and stuff like that so I just always thought that stuff was cool the video part riding and the freestyle and wanted to be just kind of like those guys and they're like Twitch and Josh Hansen they were doing like best whip at the time and doing big whips and doing the turn-up whip so then I started doing whips like that too and just kind of evolve from there and just always try to just have my style yeah this still was there immediately from you and everyone else around you. I just like hitting jumps and doing whips. It's always fun to me. It's cool that Cali has so many riders. Like around here,

it's obviously tough with the seasons and we have less tracks and stuff like that, but that we don't have anybody that had any talent around us, which is maybe, maybe move into our friends who have some talent. You can take like Levi Lavely, for example, like kind of like an anomaly for the area. Yeah, exactly. Some dude that lives in a small town, Minnesota that's like, I'm going to do crazy freestyle. Yeah, Minnesota doesn't breed actually. sports. Ryan Dungey. Where's Ryan Dungey from?

He's from Minnesota. Really? Down south? I actually didn't know. I don't know where. Yeah, but I bet when he was racing, he was more evolved into like California. Yeah. Like training down there and yeah, it's like the 9-5-1 and California, the modem mecca.

That's just where all the like the test tracks are. But now there's a lot of riding in Florida. And I said like for racing, Florida is kind of the spot to be because if you're doing outdoors and you want to be trading in that humidity and that deep dirt. And that's what it was kind of hard too when I was racing too, just riding the California tracks. Then you go to Loretta. and you're like holy shit what are these ruts like i always did better in the afternoon modos there

it was more like dry and hard pack more like a california track and like i remember the morning motors i'm like shit dude it's gonna be muddy i just suck at point tear-offs like ruts for days on the track so it's gonna be over there and that stuff training and that stuff especially in the heat and humidity yeah training for moto racing is like militant like they're going dude yeah racing a dirt bike and that weather's the norliest thing ever it's like jet and guys like that they make it look easy but that stuff is not easy yeah how glad are you to not be racing moto like it would be cool but i do enjoy it a lot more doing what i do like i'm not the guy that likes to go mode all day then i got to go get on my spin bike and yeah go ride mountain

bikes and then i like eating like california burritos and stuff like that i don't want to be eating spinach for every meal and i don't know yeah it is like it takes a certain type of person to put in network and be that gnarly on a dirt bike and it also takes a certain type of person to hit the jumps that you're hitting at yeah everyone's a little wire different and it's just kind of what you enjoy in life and the free riding and the big jumps is kind of attracts me more like that it's fun to me where do you even begin to hit these jumps that you got at sleigh ground at your compound because I mean do you even have any friends that come over and like hit these things like they're fucking I got like a couple friends that come over but I haven't not everybody has hit all the big jumps I

has. Yeah, they're huge. They're big, but then some of them, too, they're, like, turning. There's bushes. Like, that's what's scary about them, too. I'll have, like, a hundred-thirty-foot double, but then it's kind of hipped out and you can't go deep or else you're going to land in a wall with, like, boulders in it. It's pretty tech. It's like BMX trails on steroids for a dirt bike, so. How much? The biggest one is that, like, the big step-up I have that I ride a lot. That's probably, it's the biggest one, but for me now, I've hit it so many times. I just have room to go deep on it you could case it it's a step up so i'd say that's more one of the safer ones but then i have like 120 foot doubles in the bushes that's skinny and it's like on a hillside and it's kind of slanted

so that's like the scary part and it's peaked out steep like you just had a video on your instagram of you missing the landing yeah into the bushes right yeah that was like i had my track going for after slagon three is a little bit different than that we added more just like kind I made it a gnarly FMX like moto track hybrid track I'd say but then I reversed it and it was going on the hill I had this like gnarly triple out of the corner like I said it's like slanted down a hill but then it's narrow so like you got to point it left a little bit to like land in the middle of it but then I was doing it all day the day before it was like a triple triple the second triple is probably like 100 feet something like that 100 110 feet but then it's slanted on a hill like

this and then it's just brush landings on the side with wall And thanks to the county, they say, I can't clear any more brush out. So we're trying to make do with the trail we already, like, grade it out. So you got to leave these bushes. I kind of think the county that I got to keep it so gnarly and, like, go risk my life to hit these. But I came in and redid the lip the night before, and I probably didn't pack it in the right way. So it was a little bit looser than it was the day before. And I came in and I just hit it and got a little wiggle off of it.

I would always lean a little bit left because it was slanted downhill. And I just got headshay kind of in the softest. And it shot me left, and I was just in the air. Yeah, they hit this 110 foot triple and just fully. Yeah, I'm coming down in the bushes. And I think I ended up for action my wrist on that one, like slightly. But that was a like a few months ago. But there's that clip on the internet where I fully land in the bush.

So like how do you work up to hitting these jumps though? Like say you build the jump. Like there's really no test hitting something like that. It just depends. Like if it's a double double, you just like if it's like a true double where you can't really test jump it. Like I've hit. enough big jumps now to where i know like 120 is like usually in this throttle range in third gear with like and you just kind of get the feeling down just from muscle memory and hitting

jumps like that and you just got to kind of trust it sometimes you're like way off and that's when you're either case in or overjumping it but then i also have my suspension so stiff and i know when if i am going to like mess up i know i'm going to go deep or something i know i'm going to have hard enough of suspension to brace of impact and stuff like that and stuff like that. So, I don't know, you just got to kind of trust your gut sometimes, too. And that's the part of dirt bikes. It's where the balls come in. That's why hitting a jump always for the first time is the scariest part.

Yeah. You kind of know, like, I think I'll go that far, but you never know until you do it for the first time. And that's kind of the fun part sometimes, though, because it gets your adrenaline going. And, like, after you hit something for the first time, that's scary. Like, thank God I made that. So better more than less? I rather, it depends a jump. If the jump has a good deck on it, sometimes it's better to go less.

but if it's like a knuckle down, I'd rather go far. Way over. And I've flat landed a lot of jumps. I know if I'm over jumping it, I'm landing pin and I'm getting my inertia going forward to you instead of just landing on the back. Landing off the gas and just taking it all. You can land on the gas and kind of exert the energy forward. Do you ever play your compound on like the newest latest and next game?

Yeah, when it came out in the beginning, but honestly, I'm out of my property so much. I don't really have that much time to come home and play video games now, especially trying to make YouTube videos and stuff like that. I come home and then it's like, shit, now I got to go through that whole day and edit it. And it's like, that takes longer than filming it. So it's like, I wish I could sit there and play video games. Yeah, it's got to be getting older.

I don't have that much time. It's got to be crazy like your compound. Like you can just. I'm worse in the game riding my compound than I am in their life. I'm like, this is way harder doing it in the game. What does that look like when they hit you up? I think they message me on like Instagram. This was a little while ago.

They got MX versus ATV. got in contact with me in Instagram and then we just started talking and they're like oh we want to put your map in the game and then they came out and took photos of it all and like drone shots and like they got the game so good like it's pretty accurate it like feels like you're there

in the video game just even with the surrounding hills and stuff so they came in and mapped it on then like it's pretty similar to what it was but then they even added a couple sneak lines that like you're like oh that aren't there I'm like I should put that in the section like the track through the bushes is hard on the game.

Yeah, I was going to say that. Yeah, it's very stressful. Yeah, that's how, like, now that track is like, we're in the process of reversing it, but that's how, like, it was, like, for the most part, the layout through the bushes, yeah. But even, like, how you know, you got to grease that stuff, like, in real life, too.

It's like, they're not the biggest landings and stuff, so it's like BMX trails. You got to land good to get over the next one. You have a full-time dozer there? Obviously, you have a skiddy or, like, you have a payloader? I don't have a loader. I would like to eventually have a loader. I got a skiddy.

I got a dozer. And then I got two water trucks. And then I think right now we're going to buy a mini excavator, like a 309. That's the next piece of equipment I want to buy. And then after that, yeah, I'd like to have a loader. Like, it'd be so nice just to have it all. And that's kind of my dream of having my own compound with my own equipment. Are you building the majority of the jumps yourself?

The bigger stuff, no. Like, we've used Matt McCall. He runs Trick Factory. And he welds ramps. He does, like, all the welding ramps for all the kickers I have, too. But then he also does dirt work, too. And he's, like, he came in and he shaped all the jumps, stacked all of them with the loaders. Like, we'll run a loader when we need a loader.

And then for the most part, I've just watched him so much. Like, I'll be in the water truck, just running the water truck all day. But then when I'm not doing water, I'm just, like, sitting there watching him grade it. And I'll just kind of learn, like, watch what he's doing. And so now I'm trying to, like, just been out there, too, messing around in the dozer and stuff, learning how to push dirt. I'm pretty good in the skiddy now, just with the bucket and working the boat. bucket now I've been messing around with the dozer and just learning how to make cuts and like push dirt up and I'm getting better at it but I haven't built all the jumps there for my 110 track I've besides that they did a X games course there but I always just rack it and make my own little lads and I always mess around with my 110 tracks. Those are my pride of joy of the 110 tracks. Yeah yeah yeah those feel just like a grown up like sandbox track. Yeah it's like yeah like when I was a little kid I'd make little toy dirt bike tracks now it's just a little bit more expensive now. Yeah it's more expensive. Yeah it's more expensive.

but it's for business you could write it off yeah that's cool it's a good point getting all grown up you got to write stuff off and pay taxes i know i know yeah yeah rather buy an excavator than give it to uncle sam that's for sure yeah good point yeah do you think you know how much you spent building sleighground i don't know how much a lot but with like a lot of help with like monster energy and stuff too because we do like our slayground three video out there too so i have a video budget yeah to make that video so like they help me a lot with resources and renting stuff and building and so without monster energy and none of it would really be possible and fortunate enough to where i got a good sponsor like that and just all my other sponsors too i save up all my money just to put it into dirt

yeah it is crazy it's like yeah moving the dirt like building a track is expensive yeah and then it comes in and i'm on a hillside too like we'll have it all good we'll finally get it good then all of a sudden a random California rainstorm will come through in the winter and it's just completely rain rudded and you just got to rebuild everything like dirt work is just constant work yeah and that's the most frustrating part about not owning it you know you got it for two weeks you kill it and then that rain rut comes in and you're like well I don't have it anymore yeah and it's good to have it when it rains like that because you want to rebuild it when the dirt's good because then you don't have to spend hours and wait for your water

truck guy to come over and in most cases the water truck guy when I'm working on something is my dad and he's not the best squirder with that thing. He just ends up drenching me in the cab. I can't see out the window. Yeah, our water truck guy is an idiot. Yeah, did you see Mike's business? Yeah, yeah, I saw him. We ran over there.

Yeah, no pants on the side of it. That was actually a depiction of him in Vegas. That's why you said. They're telling me to go look at it. They're telling me about the Vegas story prior. Good times. Yeah, that's a good memory. It's funny.

I was laughing. I got it on my GoPro. It's definitely a better memory for us. Yeah. Yeah. So what else? You just got married? Yeah. Me and my wife, Gabriela. Yeah, we got married last September, so just over a year now. That's sweet. It in Italy. That reminds me. It took my wedding ring off to ride. I never go get that before I lose it.

And the dingo officiated it. That's pretty surreal. Yeah, we had the dingo there. He was a close family friend. And it was just, yeah, that's a pretty special moment to have dingo there. And rest in peace dingo, we lost him a little while back. So to have dingo there, he was just such a good guy. and to have them officiate with so fun and just a good week of bonding with them. Married life's good. Married life's great. Less busy, more busy, same.

Nothing really changed. I mean, except I just try to be like, hey, we're married. Like, do more laundry and stuff and not complain about it. Dude, I mean, you got her pretty dialed in, dude. She's sitting over there. She's been iPhone filming this whole thing. I look over and she's sitting there just smiling. Yeah, yeah.

She's raising out in the cold. She's my partner in crime. So, yeah. It's good. It works out good. We have a lot of fun together. We get to travel around together and enjoy a lot of good memories. Check out the big stars, big series, and blockbuster movies. Streaming on Paramount Plus.

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slash iPhone 17 Pro on select plans. Conditions and exclusions apply. Mike just got married and then CJ and Ben are engaged. Did anyone at your wedding steal your car and do any donuts and fuck up the grass? No, we were in a different country with rental cars and there's like we were on a hillside. There's no where to do stuff like that. But my friends did start throwing all the chairs we rented. You know, breaking chairs and getting a little.

We love breaking chairs. There's some missing plates that we rented for our dinner and stuff that who knows where they went. Someone might have stole Mike's car that he rolled in with with his new wife into the venue. Like it was under this tent and did some donuts and maybe fucked up the lawn. Maybe caused a little bit of a scene. Maybe made a scene. But hearing that that happened at your wedding. No, we just had some chairs in the tree in the morning.

I feel like that's normal for things like that to happen. Oh, you just wait. Yeah, I know. Mike's going to make sure there's some chaos. Can you imagine? Yeah, just go berserk. I feel like you need to have a little bit of chaos at the wedding. Otherwise, it's not, yeah, it's out of character if our weddings are normal.

Yeah. You can't get tigers. I've already looked into that. Like, I feel like that'd be sick to have our wedding. Really? You've got to be absolutely can't. It's really difficult. I don't know where the fuck you're going to get tigers in Minnesota.

The zoo. I go to the zoo. Hey, can you put these things on leashes and bring them to my wedding? Mike Tyson on a couple. I know, I know. Well, his is now at a zoo, supposedly, but I think they're still alive. He's sick if you could get Mike. Oh, that would be legendary.

Like the coolest tiger of them all. That would actually, but. Mike Tyson, his shades. Yes, so anyways. Oh. I don't put out too many of my. Would you come and do a show, like a halftime show for me? Yeah, I do a halftime show.

But I'm going to have Shred 80. our three-wheeler buddy come and do it too and he's going to jump through a ring of fire yeah it'll be three feet off the ground after the videos you guys are showing me i want to meet that guy too yeah you love gabin dude i show up in my lulu lemon kit yeah yeah you figured it out cut the beak off your helmet yeah yeah yeah dude the ronnie mack yep full-face you ever rode a three-wheeler yeah i rode my friend cole danny he's like a free rider guy i ride with and he has a three-wheeler and I wrote it. We were doing the nitro circus quarter pipe

and he let me ride it up and down that thing. He's crazy on that thing. What do you think? Dangerous. They're so scary. Yeah. Very dangerous. You get those things going forward.

You want to put your leg out and snap your tip fib real quick? There's one thing. Our friend Gavin, the three-wheeler guy, has proven, is that three-wheelers are dangerous. Yeah. He's done a great job at proving that.

Yeah. My friend, Coled Daddy, he's crazy on it. Like, he's riding off his roof on it. He's, like, built the shred doubles on it. Cole from SD. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah, he's gnarly. Because I don't think the king of a three-veiler.

I don't think it was him, but it was one of his homies right that jumped that Harley to flat. Oh, my God. But that was right in the, like, in front of his house. Yeah. Bro. Yeah, can we watch that? Can you pop that video up? Straight up in his neighborhood.

Dude, that is the craziest thing. Every time I see that video, I still think it's AI. Imagine your neighbors. Imagine, like, he just got some normal-ass neighbors. Like, all right, here he goes again. Just watch it. You're like, really. some burgers for dinner for the kids just he's 20 feet here but even too he's making the craziest ramp

I have this ramp at my house that he just brings a bunch of scrapwood out like a construction sign with a log under he calls it the slayer log and he just like bolts it together really quick he's drinking a beer he's like yeah I think it's gonna hold together and dude that's a proper three wheeler guy right there that's a three wheeler guy yeah it's what they do and they don't overthink it man it's sketchy he's full DIY yeah do it yourself and he's got property that's kind of around mine too and he is the sickest like pallet wall rides and just like sick ramps he builds and then he'll build the tip of his jumps and then he'll jagged at him so they look just all hard-gots here sick yeah yeah we had uh Gavin's arch nemesis come out and do like a three-wheeler off but we were going back and forth like

do we have dr. David who is his true arch nemesis and the other three-wheeler guy on the internet because there's not many of them obviously or Cole from SD who's actually good at riding a three-wheeler like gnarly on a three-wheeler yeah have you heard of the doctor david he's like a bmx dude but he shreds three-wheelers as well maybe i don't know maybe if i saw a video his pictures down there over by the window it's it's someone with the guy he's shooting like some flame off of like a lighter and then his wife's in a bikini yeah dude everyone that's every like all the legends that come here like he gave us that he signed it and gave us that you gave us your Moto jersey appreciate that. The Dernbrose all left their boards. We've actually like really

we've got quite a bit of signed memorabilia from just having so many legends just come out. TP. It's just cool. It's really cool. Yeah. So we appreciate you giving us the jersey signing that up. Yeah. And you'll remember that forever. Yeah. We're going to get that. We'll get it framed like in like a thing and put it somewhere cool. That's when Evan got his mojo back. Yeah. We'll always remember that. Big date. Big date. Yeah, Evan got his mojo. I got to work on that 58 seconds, though. Is that what you got on that last lap, 58 seconds on our track? 58 and a half seconds. I left some room for improvement.

Yeah, 58, 50, I think. Was that the official? Yeah, 58, something like that. Yeah, so we got like a... 58 flats, all I really need. It's true. It would be. You got 80 horsepower, so no excuses.

But it was fun out there. It was a little less of like... Axel didn't have to go out and tell Evan, all right, here's how you hit a jump. You don't want to be with this and that. It was more just like, go faster, bro. Well, you know, being able to chase them for, like, knowing he's going to hit it perfect chasing for some speed and then just seeing someone hit it and then just it's easy to be

confident when you see exactly exactly what I need to do even if you're doing it on one wheel yeah I'm like I can do it on two yeah yeah yeah but it's all the same speed and not like riding for a while and not seeing anyone hit it and just trying to like roughly guesstimate the speed is a lot harder than seeing someone and then you could just kind of go copy what they're doing so even when I'm like hitting big jumps and stuff when I'm with my buddies that like Josh Hill and beerman like when we all get together then we feed off of each other and it makes it a lot easier to hit a big jump instead of like being there by yourself just having good vibes like good vibes too you guys are all like riding it in getting the speed down and someone will hit something first and then

you can follow them off of that but then like you'll go over to another jump and then it turns into a competition like oh you kind of want to hit it before them to like kind of have that street cred so it gives you motivation to want to do it before someone else too oh man here we go we got to watch this dude it's actually more. Yeah. So who was this guy? It was just his homie? I don't,

I forget who the guy. I don't know if I met the guy on the Harley ever. Dude. He was just driving by on a Sunday cruise. Dude, look at the power line above his head. There's a power line, dude.

The amount of torque he grabbed half that ramp. Oh, that bike is so heavy. So how was that guy after that? Yeah, was he dialed or is he? He's walking. He's okay.

That was so long ago. I forget the verdict. on the yeah that was in 2018 i can't believe that's already like seven years ago it's crazy time flies has 4,000 likes this is one of the reposts one of the reposts a many times but i do i think the ogy one has you know you've done a lot of legendary things you've got a lot of legendary clips but one of the funniest ones is your dad yeah that like oversees all everything i've done now it's just so good can we watch that too right can you pop that up we've watching on the podcast, I think

twice at this point. It's so funny. It's timeless. Whenever I need a good laugh, like I go back and run it back. This is even the second time I posted. I have posted a little bit more this time. Worth the repost. People can't

stand this video. It's so funny. Hey, Justin. Shut it off. And everyone's like, why did you stick your hand in the tire? I'm like, dude, I'm thinking so fast, and that hill is so much steeper than it looks on there. But that bike's, like, upside down. That was kind of dangerous.

I guess I didn't really look at the brake lever right there, but my dad was pinned in the thornbush. Yeah, I was trying to save his life. And then I was trying to get in there, get the bike, and then I was getting stabbed by the thornbushes, too. And then Justin comes over, and he's just the strongest dude ever. He lift that thing up and got my dad out of there. He's in the thorn bushes that's not even phased. He's just bleeding his glasses. Oh, fuck, dude.

He still got the Stogey. Yeah, he didn't drop the Stogey. That's a steep pill, and he was behind me, and I fully dusted him. He couldn't see. How many of Stogeys your dad smoke a day? He's always got one of those things. He used to do, like, a Stogey a day, but he quit Stogies after my wedding, and he hasn't been smoking cigars anymore.

My old man's got a stogie in his mouth around the clock. Yeah. No, he quit the Stogeys. I got him an electric mountain bike specialized, and I've been getting him, like, we're getting on his fitness. routine. There you go. Get him a little healthier.

Everyone's doing it. He drinks a lot of coffee. I do, too. So I see, I know where I get it. Oh, yeah. This is the, bro.

Well, he went to go and his songs. And then he had nothing. It's not even moving. Bro. I'm sure it's such a weird situation of being. He's so bad. Because every time you move,

it hurts more. Dude, and he had no helmet on. I'm getting stabbed just trying to get them out. I didn't know what to do. And before that, Justin just picked him up his whole ass with that. What the fuck's going on?

He's in there, yelling my shoulders, my shoulders. I'm like, what are they dislocated? He's like, no, grab them.

And then he wanted to go again. He's trying to get on the bike again. Give me that thing. I got this. That leaves. his ass crack. He quit drinking 30 years ago. That's just my dad.

He's squirrelly. Squirrelly. Dude, that's the thing is you guys are out here filming this video that's supposed to be the main focus. And then your dad does this and it goes insanely viral. Yeah, that was just insane. I fell through the bushes earlier that day too, completely wanted it. It didn't get on video.

And then my dad just completely outdid himself and close up with that thing. And I'm like, I'm so happy my like GoPro was recording for that and just like captured that moment because that's going to be a memory that we have. Gold. Yeah. Yeah. And for everyone. They got a lot of enjoyment out of it.

I'm glad he was okay. Yeah. Yeah. He had no helmet on. I'm like, did he hit his head on something? So he was bleeding, but realistically, you know, buff like no serious. Always wear your helmet kids. Yeah.

Don't be like my dad. He's squarely. You've been super good about incorporating both your parents and your videos for a long time. Dude, they just look rad. Yeah, my parents are so awesome. I don't know. They're all about family first. My mom is just taking care of us so good and traveling with my dad over the years.

We get to ride dirt bikes and we still just get to hang out and ride dirt bikes all the time. It's very like, I love hanging out with my family and get so much time just with my dad. And I'll take that like with me forever. People give me crap sometimes. Oh, you take your daddy with you all this. I'm like, dude, I'm hanging out with my dad and my family. I love them more than anything. and we're out riding dirt bikes,

getting to enjoy life together. It doesn't get much better than that. Right. Absolutely. Even though we go at it all the time, but that's just like father and son. Oh, really? Like he's constantly busting your balls or what?

He's busting my balls, but we're just, you know, father's saying, I'll do this. Like, dad, come on, I'm going to do it like this. And I don't know. He's just a hard ass. He's constantly talking shit, messing with everyone too.

So just, I don't know. He's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like giving you tips, like, on the bike. Well, when I was racing, Like, I'd be on the line. He'd be like, oh, you do this, do this. I'm like, Dad, shut up.

You just get me so mad before a race. I'm like, such a classic parent. Yeah, just Moto dad. You said that, you know, he was racing when you were growing up. Was he like a fast guy at the track or? He wasn't really racing. Like, he'd do like mammoth motocross with his buddies like one time a year.

But no, my dad was so squirrely riding a dirt bike. He was pretty old school. So he's jumping. He's front end up. And then we call it Dick Hammer. Like, he just, he was so. squirrely so I figured out like what not to do by watching him and then Jeremy McGrath was down the road so we rode with him a lot so I just I'd watch him to see what to do right because he was like

the king of super cross that dude was the man and I know I remember going to the track with my dad I didn't even gear up yet and he broke his neck first lap your dad yeah he fractured his neck he tried to hit this double and he was trying to go on a slow lap and his buddy flew by him and he's one of his guys that he's not going to let his buddies like beat him so he just grabbed a handful hit this jump they watered it went over the bars and was in the hospital at the broken neck like my dad he's loose on a dirt bike but he has some speed like he ain't scared to go for it i remember he would say if jeremy mcgrath goes by me he's pinned i'm pinned how come i don't have that speed i should be there right there with him so he's done that he's had jeremy go by him and

he tries to hang with him and he just laughs at him yeah in theory dirt bikes pinned should go the same speed, but it doesn't quite work like that. Yeah, it doesn't quite work like that on the track. He's trying on pin, I got him. So that's how he's wired. He's fearless. Yeah, not quite. He doesn't really ride anymore.

He's getting a little older and a little bit more brittle now, so. Is he crank hog? Does he ride Harleys? He'll crank a little hog. Yeah, yeah. It's good to see him on two wheels. Obviously, you said you got him a special. He'll ride a little bit, yeah.

He's got a Harley at his house. He's got this, like, Batmobile looking one that I got yours back and that's his choice of weapon. You got to hit Sturgis with us. Yeah, it's so sick. I think I'll just end up drinking beer the whole time. That does happen. It does happen.

You would. It does happen, but it's a good time. I like to do it. My brother's like they ride there. My brother Austin goes there every year and like the unknown industries. I'm friends with those guys and they always go there. They do wheelie shows and stuff like that. So definitely something I got to do in my life.

I think we've met them this year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They live up in the Petaluma, California. they're getting a little older now they're all having kids now so they're kind of toning it back a little bit we've been giving them shit calling them pussies but they're like the o-gs of wheeling harleys and they're dialed dude just different and they have the sickest bikes

and style the sickest bike they kind of set the standard for yeah those are nasty riding harleys and doing wheelies riding harleys and ripping harleys the way that those guys rip them you forget how heavy they are yeah they're heavy and going down on concrete sucks road rash is like Yeah, it's the worst thing ever And being dragged down by how heavy those things And then not to mention traffic That's like a whole other element Stuff that can go wrong

Yeah, getting hit by a bonehead driver or something And I don't know, I start riding Harley's I get a little, just like my back start turn Because I'm like an old I'm not old but in dirt bike years I'm starting to feel a little weathered I'm sitting hunchback, I'm on an hour ride And you really don't want to ride a rocket

Yeah, yeah, no yeah No, I've written one down this gym I'm good on this You could get going fast you can't stop as fast as you can get going on those things. Dude, you should see some of the stuff Evan's done on a rocket. Off-road only. I don't really like to ride on the off-road only.

Glamis was fun. Yeah, I might have to get a ninja, put a paddle on it. There you go. Dude, all those kids that are saying Evan fell off on TikTok, I'd like to see them even ride a crotch rocket, let alone do anything that Evan has done on a crotch rocket, dude. What was an earlier sand or Moab? The few steepest hills at Moab were gnarly because they were gnarly hills.

But in general, those big rocks are just like asphalt. But the sand was hard because it constantly, you wanted to tank slap. It probably stuck more to crash on the hard pack stuff than crashing in sand. And I did do that. I don't think I crashed on the sand, but I tumbled in the rocks. It was only because I broke my brakes. I tried to go down a hill with, like, rear brake only on wet rocks. You did crash in the sand.

So I started picking up speed quicker and quicker. and there may have been, I don't know what the percentage chance was. I just jumped up before I got to the bottom. Maybe I could have rode it out, but I'm like, I'm going to be going so fast by the bottom of this. And if I, like, eat the tank. It's heavy and the suspension isn't that great. So I just, like, pulled the trigger right away as soon as I felt like I was going too fast and I knew I was only going to be going faster, I just bailed, tumbled down the rocks.

Yeah, the sand was just sketchy because if you weren't on the power, like, you could pick up speed quick with that paddle tire. Like, it was so lit. But as soon as you chop the throttle, it was just... Yeah, that's how sand it's like riding in powder. You get off the gas, you just stops you. Yeah, I'd recommend snowmobiles in the sand dunes maybe before the crowd track it. Those actually work pretty good.

Yeah, yeah, I saw some videos of that. We had some sleds out and like one of the... I think it was Dunees too or something like that. They were sending those things. Yeah, they were. The tracks don't really like the sand. I think one caught in fire, maybe. Yeah, it gets so hot.

Yeah. Generating some heat. Where's your favorite? spot to ride like out of all the places obviously you have your compound you ride the dunes a lot you obviously ride public tracks too even like what cormrott our driveway yeah driveways are pretty nice what like if you if you had to choose like what's your favorite spot to go ride favorite spot to go ride i'd either say like the sand dunes when it's smooth and good like like where it's blown good glamist is pretty fun like i've been to glamist the most for the riding dunes and

it's easier to find the bigger jumps there. Like Pizmo is a lot of fun because it's on the beach, but it's harder to find like those bigger dune to dune gaps. Like when we go to like glamis or any of like those dunes, the whole time I'm always just thinking about like you or any of the other riders that just fucking boot it and like link these massive basically sandhills. And I'm like looking around like I don't know where the, like where are these jumps? And I just eventually like just realized I'm like, no, they're just going that.

big like so what are you like fifth gear just pinned off these things in there like if you're hitting like a big jump in glamis it's like fourth gear yeah like probably going 150 like 150 feet it just kind of depends what kind of jump it is i think there's this jump i crashed on in my deserted video like i got cross-rutted in that like because i was hitting it so many times but that shot me left when i crashed but when i hit it good i was going fourth gear pin down a hill but then the hill would drop away from you too so you're even like falling down the hill i think goes closer to like 200 feet and that was just fourth gear pin jumping down a hill so like you could get probably close to 200 feet in the dunes in like fifth gear just kind of depends how it's set up and if the sand's super soft

or sometimes it blows and it's soft and you can't get the speed going but then you'd be in other spots and it's kind of firmer sand so it just kind of depends on all the conditions there's no small jumps out there yeah not really like it could be yeah you can find little table tops with like a razor back that will go over a hill but like if you're hitting a big double and trying to find doubles they're usually pretty big I feel like there's still not ideal landings either though yeah it's just hard to find if you find a good like yeah you either looking for a landing when you're trying to find a jump and hopefully there's a lip to it or you see a lip then you just start looking for a landing but it's usually pretty flat landing and like

you said when you let off the gasser you stop so like hitting jumps so you want to land wide open so you're landing you're going keep going yeah didn't you break your leg yeah broke my beamer December 23 out in glamis for that like hitting this jump I was coming over this goalie and then it would go down into another goal and I was clicking forth and just holding it wide and I was doing it over and over again I did a big whip earlier on in the day and then we got the helicopter out to get another shot from the heli we want to get a heli shot of it so I was doing it over and over again and I was getting pissed because I couldn't get like the good one like I got earlier and then my sand rut kept getting deeper and deeper because I was in this goalie and I was kind of almost

hilling the side of the hill and then getting into the lip and it just started getting into like a deeper rut and i came back i remember one time i looped around because the rut was getting deep and i came in backwards and i tried to spray some sand into it to like fill in the rut and i like got some sand into it and then i just came back into it on the one i crashed forth and i put sand into it but i didn't fill in the whole rut i just filled in like a little section of the rut so i came in forth wide and and hit all the soft sand i put into the rut and it grabbed my pegs and it wiggled me and just shot me left went down left and like the landing i was jumping shot me down right the whole hillside was down to the right but then i went left down this razor back edge that was going downhill and i was just

i was on the edge of the razor back just like fully diagonal and i was going to land like full feeble wheelie grind on the edge of this razor back yeah razor back edge and just like i went like i don't know over 100 feet and I was just sitting there and like it happened fast and I didn't want to be in the sand dunes in case and just stop all my momentum and get my handlebars to my guts right because that'll just be bad to just have an internal bleeding out in the sand dunes I didn't want to risk that's the last minute I ditched it and I tried to get to the high side of the razor back because the other side was just a drop off try to get to it I let go like pretty late my bike landed in front of me with the bars they kind of stabbed I think I landed just behind my handlebars and I hit

I don't know if I exploded my femur from hitting the stand or I hit and then I went into my bike and might have hit my handlebars and then that might have kind of break. I don't know because it happened so fast. But thank God we're close to the highway. I like broke it into like 20 pieces and I was laying there. We're right by the sand highway. At least we're pretty close. So like we waited at a whole hour for the helicopter to get there.

And we didn't have a medical staff with us too, which we learned from that like, okay, we needed to be on our stuff and next time have a medical. team with us but there's another shoot going on i think like oakley was shooting with a photographer he was a backcountry snowboard photographer tyler ravel and he's a back country ski photographer but he was doing some moto stuff and he saw i crash and he came up to me and he just got done because the backcountry guys they do a first aid course every year of like because when you're in the back country skiing and snowboard and break your leg you want to know how to splen a femur and like go through all the procedures of like checking blood flow and stuff like that so he just

got done doing a full week of like what to do in a broken femur situation so he came up and kind of fully took over and got me rolled over he was checking my toes making sure i had blood flow he pulled my leg straight got me on my back kind of put some sand under tied my legs together with tie downs and just kept checking my pulse to make sure i wasn't internally like got that artery the main artery in my leg so this is like the third femur i've done at this point jeez same leg each time i've done my left twice i did my left when i was five and then i did it again when i was 17 racing not racing practicing for a race i try to pass my buddy in rollers and just tank slapped and rollers went over the bars this was my third femur i've done so with tyler there i was just kind of a blessing from god that

he was there and around and saw me and he just got me as comfortable as i could and then i laid there for an hour we were trying to get an ambulance but then we ended up having a helicopter come get me and laid there for an hour with a broken femur, but having him there checking me and I knew I wasn't losing blood, I wasn't getting dizzy and stuff. It just made me feel so much better that I was like okay

and it was just a broken bone instead of like other serious shit going on. Dude, that's so gnarly though. That's where too, like you normally don't want to bail, but in that circumstances, I didn't want to take my bars to the gut and wrist explode and that shit. A bail into sand seems better.

That's where I thought I was okay. Like nothing else. I was hurt. Like, I didn't hit my head or anything. Like, my arms were fine. Everything didn't hurt. That's why I'm thinking, like, I don't know if I landed in the sand. And the way in the video, I'm like, I land right kind of in front of my handlebars. I think I landed and rolled and just peeled my femur, like, over my crossbar. And I don't know, the way it broke, too, it was so just, like, shattered. And what does that look like after you do something that gnarly, you crash? How do you gain your confidence back to do big jumps again?

I don't know. I definitely think a lot more now when I'm doing jumps and try to be more calculated, but I just like dirt biking too much. I go kind of mental if I'm not doing that type of stuff. So that's just what I like doing. Did you get back into it right away? Six months later was quarter pipe at X games. I miss X games the year before my best friend, Pat Casey, passed away before X games last year. And I just really wasn't mentally ready to ride after that. He passed away. We were riding up my property. And after that, I was pretty, took me a while to like want to have fun on my dirt bike again and took some time off didn't ride

x games before that and then this was kind of wanted to film a video for monster getting back just starting to have fun riding my dirt bike again and it was December 6 it was exactly six months after pat passed away i broke my leg and after that like i was just starting to have fun and enjoy it again and did that so i was pretty mentally down on myself for a while after that but now i don't know i just dirt bikes are so fun to me and i know it's my favorite thing ever to do and life's short and i don't know you could be getting a car crash and that could be it so i don't know i just like dirt bikes too much and for me and just having fun is the main part for me and like having fun that's when i usually do like the narlier stuff is when i'm having fun not

thinking about it so if you're a dirtbiker you can't think too much you just got to trust your skills and yeah obviously you got to mitigate the risk because i mean you're not obviously trying to get hurt. Yeah, but I've had so much experience on a dirt bike too. And over the years of learning and crashing and how to get out of it, you just got to kind of rely on your skill and know how to get out of things. Like you got to know how to crash to be a dirt bike rider. You got to be able to tuck and roll.

And now I think about, okay, if this doesn't go, right, I'm going to have an escape plan to know how I'm going to crash. And you got to, like, you get older, you kind of learn about that instead of just it happening. It's like good skateboarders. Yeah, you just got a really good. Taking Falls. It's like whoever's better at Taking Falls has like a longer career. I'm pretty beat up.

I got metal rods in both my femurs, but I still feel pretty good. And learning how to crash is definitely a big part of being like a freestyle dirt bike rider. What's the rehab look like after you break your femur to like getting back on a bike that soon? After that, I just started like I said, so X games was six months after that. And I didn't ride the year before. So I really just wanted to ride X games just to be there and to be in it.

again and just from not riding it the year before i was pretty bummed on that i just want to get back in the mix so and it's good to have that you use that as your goal yeah and it gives you a goal to work for deadline yeah maybe i wasn't 100 but i was just stoked that i was able to get there and ride it and after that rehab like when you break your femur they put a rod in it like to get out of the hospital they have you on a walker the next day because you have a rod in your femur it hurts like hell but like they get you up on a walker to move because you want to keep your blood flowing in your leg for just like swelling and blood clots and everything like that and get your muscle stimulated and after that i laid in a bed just not doing anything for a while until i could

start moving a little bit and i got this little pedal like they're just like these petals i'd put in front of my i forget what it was called but it was this pedal machine i'd put in front of my couch like and i'd be sitting here with pedals and it would do it for me so like that's how i started it was like automatically pedal and then it was like an online program too so So once you get stronger and stronger and then it gets you warmed up and then you start pedaling yourself and you do it for a minute. And then that gradually gets harder and harder. So that keeps you moving.

And then with specialized bicycles gives me a lot of good support. So I got some e-bikes too. So I started riding my e-bike pretty early. I probably shouldn't have been riding it. But pedal assist, like I just get, like I said, bored when I'm not riding. So I started riding that pretty early on and just going on just long mellow rides through the neighborhood to where I knew I wouldn't be in any spots where I'd get stopped or have to put a leg out. I started out with mellow rides just kind of on the road and then just

started getting into the trails on that, riding my electric bicycle too just got me paddling back and then standing up on that thing and then having PT too just like doing certain exercises. You start doing lunges and just stepping up like on a box. You just start working your way back up getting your muscles going again until the pains away. And today like this thing still hurts but like it just gets better and better and like it's just kind of on you to how strong you want to get it just little by little by little inch inch and long yeah which the other day like I was doing this one foot wheelie landing I just posted on my Instagram the other day off my 75 foot ramp it still hurts like hell but like I tried it two months ago and I have been pretty lazy with like

doing squats and stuff my leg wasn't that strong and I tried it like two months ago it hurts so bad but since then I've been riding a lot of bikes and squatting and I did it the other day and I could just fully have the confidence again to land on my bad leg and have that strength back so just he's got to put in the work and get the strength back that's the main part and keep it moving and hope your surgeon did a good job of bolting you back together because I know there's some people that have had some shitty surgery so yeah just making sure you go to the right place too to get your surgeries done is pretty big too our boy spenny cut his uh eight tendons and one nerve what three weeks ago maybe a month ago out yeah and he's uh

You know, in heavy rehab right now, just trying to get it back. And he's been just like day by day, spends three to four hours a day, doing nothing but rehab. And he's slowly, slowly getting it back. So he picked up an empty glass bottle this week. And that was like the biggest, you know, like he's like, yeah, that's now it's going to be a full glass bottle. Like I don't think people realize the like mental toughness you have to have. You know, everybody wants to go out and do sick jumps and all that.

but like pushing yourself through crashes, pushing yourself, most importantly, through injury, not built like a normal human. I feel like you're an athlete. Yeah, and the best rehab too for riding, I think is just riding and like being patient with that too, not just going out and trying to do the stuff you're doing before but just even go out.

Go ride the vet track and just go Moto for a little bit and try standing up to build that muscle memory back. And I don't know, just standing up on a dirt bike is that's the best way you're going to get your dirt bike muscles back firing. I think a lot of people listening, Probably know that, but a lot of people don't. Like, I broke my foot really bad before I rode, and I babyed the shit out of it.

I just, like, didn't use it because I was like, well, I just broke it super bad. Of course I'm not going to use it. Yeah. And that ended up, you know, not paying off positively. Yeah, you want to keep it moving, like scar tissue. It seems obvious, but you should use it as much as possible. Yeah, just keeping it moving. Like, even if you're not putting weight on it, you can't put weight on it.

It depends the injury, but. Even if it hurts. You want to keep those muscles moving or also lock up. on you and just even harder to get back to where you were so is there moments after a gnarly crash like that you know with the compound of of your buddy dying you're laying in bed with a broken leg are you like ever contemplating like fuck maybe this isn't worth it i don't think i've ever thought that no no yeah it's just like uh rehab it back and get back on it's what i do so i don't know i can't i'm in too deep yeah you can't take that away yeah i love dirt bikes like there's

nothing else that like would make me as happy as a dirt bike i mean my wife would make me happy but like in a different way as like being satisfied in life liking what i do is dirt bikes is it yeah i think i think like you know a lot of people obviously listening right now wonder what's it like you know for an athlete to go through something that gnarly to get back on and keep on going like just like the mental toughness that takes yeah it's hard sometimes i have my days or i don't know Like, I was in the Nitro Circus tour, like, right? This was before I broke my femur and Pat passed away. And I was doing this gnarly, wheelie to backflip,

which is a super, like, inconsistent trick and it's scary. And then it would be after halftime and they would do, like, a full memorial for all of our friends that have passed away. And the last one was Pat, and it was just like every time I was crying, watching that. And then it was my turn for my gnarly stunt. So it's like almost like you got to take that and put it into the energy. It's like, yo, Pat's got my back. and I'm doing this for him. And he was the gnarliest dude ever.

He would be up there. I'm like, okay, he's going to call me a pussy from the heavens if I don't do this right now. So you've got to kind of turn that into motivation instead of fear. So kind of do it for them and turn a negative into a positive and have a purpose to do it. And no, he's got your back. Words of wisdom. You have any guys you've seen on the space that you feel like are coming up? Coming up for like freestyle.

Yeah. People you're excited to watch as they. I'd say, I don't know, for like, younger kids. There's not a lot of kids that are, like, riding freestyle these days. But there's this little kid on a super mini. His name's boogie. I saw the other day, like, yesterday I was laying in bed. He was, like, throwing a big whip on a 75-foot ramp on a super mini.

That was pretty cool. And then there's a lot more guys, like now there's electric bikes, and there's all those kids doing the whips like Patrick Evans and WIO. I know Nick Tomasunis, he's another guy that I've seen doing like wheelie landings and stuff like that. So there's a lot more, like, kids. like that they're not necessarily the youngest but they're kind of like doing the free riding and making dirt bikes look cool and stuff like that so i don't know because like nowadays it's like all the younger kids are they're just racing dirt bikes for the most part how do you think the pathway has changed

to do what you do because in your era of doing it it was like all right you hit some shows get on x games you know like that and then you start making youtube do you feel like it's almost reversed at this time yeah i don't know it's kind of in a weird spot like it just kind of depends like the type of rider you are if you want to be like that X games guy or for me like I'd care more about making a sick video and like putting style and putting your own flavor onto something instead of just going out and hucking trick after trick or trying to like oh go over a bar over and over again like I like to be able to create something that's different than everything else and like a backcountry dirt biking yeah like a backcountry snowboarder but for dirt biking so for like kids

and stuff it's like kind of now yeah everything's a lot of media driven and like i think yeah making youtube like you guys you guys make youtube videos of doing cool shit like there's a lot to be said for that in the dirt bike world too it's cool to see more like kids making videos like that and like doing vlogging and like showing people what it's really like about being a dirt bike rider and i don't know just being creative you got to be creative and think outside the box and you do it's always worked for me like i just always try to be a little bit different and put my twist onto things that like have been done maybe but i don't know you could put your own style on it and make it your own and yeah you've always been different i've always been good at that though like

even you were like the first guy on snapchat making snapchats of like your daily vlogging your life yeah like i don't know that yeah i was young and it was fun like i wish i was i don't snapchat as much as i used to now you could get paid good on snapchat no no like everyone i wish back in the day it was like that but i i try to snapchat when i can i threw some up today you guys gave me a little fun. Yeah, bring it back. Bring it back. You got to get Axel back on Snap.

But yeah, I don't know. There's so much ways to make money on the internet, too. And if you could turn your motorcycle content into that, too, and just making it creative and not doing the same thing over and over and over again, too. Because I feel like you can burn stuff out by just doing the same thing over and over again. So that's what too. I like to ride a little bit of everything and just trying to be the best well-rounded, I could be.

Throwing some brute force content. Yeah, like show people. you can have fun. People like dirt bikers will talk crap on a quad. But it's like, dude, I love riding quads. It's so fun. I'd like to see some brute forest content in the future here. Yeah, definitely.

So just having fun. Like dirt bikes are so fun. If you're having fun, I'll rub off another people. They'll be like, oh, I want to go have fun like that too. And there's not contests like freestyle anymore. There's X games one time a year.

It's not like they have due tour and stuff like that where kids are like kind of chasing the contest scene for freestyle. dude it just became like so accessible with the internet yeah yeah you know you can go on instagram and you can see the gnarliest triple backflip and i think the only place that you used to be able to see that was x games yeah yeah and now you see it every day and then you see it every single day yeah so i haven't heard or done the research but like x games is turning into a league yeah and and i haven't researched it too much either but yeah it looks like a league i don't really know how it's going to work or

yeah especially like with skating and bmx like you know there's street leaks like it almost makes sense but then with bikes the risk factor is a lot higher so it's yeah and then there's how many events are we going to have yeah i don't know yeah i don't really know how any of that's going to work i'll have to see how pans out you have any world records you're chasing no i don't really chase records i like more so like doing stuff that hasn't really been done yet like the backup wheelie stuff and yeah that's what i kind of like doing it keeps me driven and i was trying the world record at one point wonder what the most like endo to wheelie to

endo to wheelie like combo would be like you know what i'm saying like yeah i don't know i'm not one to go oh i just broke the record i just like doing stuff that i think is cool and like that stokes me out that's what i get the most satisfaction out it was like that was sick like after you do something like that you're not like yeah that's world's first like come beat me it's not like that's the vibe but I'm all four people like doing shit. They don't need the Guinness Book of World Records actually there. Like, if it's the first time I've seen it on the internet. If I'm hyped off of it, it makes me happy,

makes me sleep good at night, I'm stoked. So we got that half-mile driveway. You could do the freaking nose manual to wheelie back and forth. You want to hit that? Or are you thinking like on a track, like jump tabletop? Yeah, maybe like a huge straight rhythm set up. That's what I picture. Tabletops.

You can probably do it all. I'm sure that's not even a thing. Yeah, we can do three and have the world. Yeah, right? Yeah, if you get creative enough, you can have the Guinness guy come out and have any kind of weird world record. Yeah, but isn't it like 5Gs? It is.

Is it really? Yeah, we've looked into it because it'd be sick to have a world record, but it's just like, dude, it's hard to justify. At one point, I was going for the distance record. Yeah, it was. It was insane. I was close, like. I was doing it so much because I wanted it to be dialed in.

Like, I wanted to be really dialed in by the time of showtime. And I wanted to get over 400 feet the night of. And I wanted to get 420. That was my main goal. Yeah. But I was coming in. And it was kind of like when you start going over 350 feet, it like kind of turns into like

you're flying something. And like every little movement is so gnarly. And like the way I had my distance set up, I was coming in going like 106 is what. was taking off miles an hour yeah holy shit i didn't know we're on a 450 i was on a 450 and then you don't want to mod out your bikes too because then it makes them more unreliable and like you want to keep it as kind of stock as you could 42 three or sprocket changing the gearing and then the exhaust pipe on it we like mimic this flat track pipe we took the pro circuit and they like

kind of got that for like getting the best top end of the bike to get the top speed so Mitch Payton got me a good pipe on it and we didn't really touch the motor in like a lot of gearing we geared it super low and like I was coming in I would hit it at 106 but then I'd come in and they had the platform elevated so I was like hitting a little bump then I'd unload

I would get it like raised up like this high onto the platform look at the speedometer then like see make sure I'm going 106 and then look back at the ramp to hit it and then if I wasn't going 106 I'd like come off this like side deck and it was like pretty sketchy and I was going over like 350 good and good and I think my farthest successful jump was 396 feet is what they told me and I did

that the day before and then just another day of training came in and it was a little headwindy but like I felt like I was going slow and I pulled up at the last second like I would on a normal like 100 foot dirt bike jump but like when you're going that fast you have such a big headwind and your back wheel spinning so fast it's so heavy so I got up I pulled a little bit because I just felt like I was trying to get distance and I felt like I was going a little slow so I pulled up I got my friend end up and I didn't break tap in time to get like my front set down in time so as I apex like my back wheel was still spinning so like heavy and then with the headwind too it was a little windier that day it just like started dropping and dropping like full bowling ball style I felt like somebody was just like

pulling my back wheel down I landed full 12 o'clock both my toes like hit my shins and then it just slammed down so gnarly it blew my hands off the handlebars and then i was like literally laying on my seat like i was buggy boarding it and i was like on my seat i was like this is crazy and then i just slowly felt myself peel off the side of it and then i just started sliding i forget how far i slid i slid like another football field or even farther than that full leathers full leathers but i was wearing my moto gloves i didn't have leather gloves on like i didn't think i was going to crash on it I'm like, I'm going to stomp this shit every time or else I'm done. Like, I didn't even think crashing was an option, but just had that one bad pull and going that fast, everything, just like, is this micro movements.

And then I had it good, but just that one bad jump kind of set me back. And it wasn't my intention. I wasn't, I didn't go to them wanting to break the record. They came to me and wanted a guy to break the record. I was like, yeah, I'll do it. It sounds easy. And then after that, that happened. And I'm like, this shit is just like two life or death.

but this isn't why I ride a dirt bike. What was the injuries? So I broke my left talus on my ankle and sprained with that. And then I just sprained this one pretty bad. And that was about it for just broken foot and sprained my right one, got out pretty good. But then like I said, I was like slammed the ground, boogie board it, slid, was sliding my hands. And I remember I went to get up and I thought I was going slow, but I was still sliding so fast. I went to get up and I started cartwheeling more.

Jeez. Until I came to a stop. but I got up. Oh. Yeah, see, like fully boogie boarding my seat. Like, I was still riding it. And then I don't, I should have just stayed on it. You did it.

I mean, incredible. For as bad as that could have been, like, I got out of jumping a 400 foot jump. Yeah. Yeah. With minor consequences. So it was the history channel? Yeah, I was going to be on history channel with Nitro Circus. Okay, yeah.

Yeah, then I got hurt. And then afterwards, yeah, I just didn't really have any desire to it. I've jumped three. hundred ninety six feet successfully yeah and i'm good with that for myself yeah 96 that's your number too that is yeah which is but then yeah my that sucks too i was sliding and my hands were grinding i my knuckles were so bloody but then i stood up thinking i was going to do it later that day and i walked into the ambulance i'm like i'm okay and then i lay down for like 20 minutes it's like holy shit and i went to like get back up and my ankles were just full lock up and hurt so bad and yeah did you

play back the footage and you see your ankle completely tacoed up to you. I think like, oh, yeah, that's why I just had so much adrenaline going. And then I lay down and just everything locked up and like I couldn't stand. And then that was kind of all she wrote. Yeah, that's, I don't know. You're just going so fast and like. Do again. Yeah, it's cool.

But I don't know. I'd rather go do like the backflip wheelie stuff and that's more enjoyable to me. And for that too, it's like I couldn't even go ride and go enjoy my dirt bike. I was showing up at an airport every day. Just having to hit this double over and over again. what is the record that's shaky too because there's like a ramp to dirt record i was going for the official ramp to ramp record which i think at the time was 3702 or something like that the ramp to ramp i don't know how that's what too i was hearing a bunch of numbers too like i didn't

even know the record too like it was just so confusing and then there's another guy alex harville which i think he passed away jumping but he had a he said they went 425 or something That was ramped to dirt, but then there's other people saying that wasn't Guinness World Record, but I'm like, okay, but who cares? Like, if he went 425, that's freaking gnarly, dude. I remember seeing the video, yeah, it's so big, too. So, like, I didn't know, like, a lot about that world at the time, too. So, like, I was just, like, trying to do my job and go far.

Some evil-conevel shit. But, yeah, but $3.96 was my farthest, so I'm, I could say I went $3.96 on a How many school buses is that? No, just think, like, so what, like, a football field, a football field is like 120 yards. So you're, like, essentially jumping, like, if you were to take off through a field goal and you would land through another field goal. Robbie Madison did that. But, yeah. Yeah, which I think is 300 feet is what that is.

It would be 40. Yeah, because the end zones are off. With the end zones. So it would be 340. So you'd still be over that, but it's just, just to put in perspective, field goal through field goal, at least. How much time in the air is that? I don't know. I got some videos on my phone

You're up in the air You're like looking around like All right I'm up here It's crazy It felt like the ones I had good They were good Like I was like getting the nose down And like felt fine

But just like that one bad When you're up there Are you chilling or you like I wouldn't even want to look at the gap I'm just like chill and I'm looking down This fucking runway And like I'm passing by all these like 744 jets

747 jets they have parked next to me And I don't know You kind of get in the zone And as soon as you start start looping it, looping it. You get more comfy with it because then it starts turning into muscle memory. But it's just like your bike brakes going that fast or you have a mechanical. It's just not really worth endowing off that going 106 miles per hour.

Oh, dude. Yeah, uh, 49.6 school buses. Is that long. The long way? Sideways. Yeah, Levi. Yeah, he was doing it too, which he crashed. He did.

He did. Yeah, which is mind blowing to me because I think he went over the bars. What did he say when he, it was something with the carburetor? He was burning so much gas and then you're in. In the air, it would, like, lift out of the hole. Yeah, and then stall in the air. Yeah, that would burn through all of the gas. Yeah, and then he came back and stopped it and went, like, 416 or something right on his sled, I think.

I forget how far he went. I think you made a good point, though. At that point, it's not just, like, jumping, it's flying. Yeah. So, once you get, like, over 350, yeah, it's like a whole different ballpark. He loves that shit, though. Like, he loves a good world record. Yeah.

That's like that's what he Yeah, that's far. It's gnarly. 412. He loves jumping, dude. In the dark. Just in general. Yeah, that was New Year's Eve, right?

San Diego. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Over water. That was so crazy. He's got the Evan build.

Evan side by side with Robbie Madison was shorter. It can take a fall. Yeah. That's crazy. Going over the bars on like a 400 foot jump, screw that. Bro, that's so bad. Snowmobile, too. Heavy.

Bricks. Yeah. Then they do it side by side with Mado, too. Robbie Madison is absolute legend, too. You ever ride a snowmobile? I've written some, like, kind of crappier tour, like, snowmobiles, and then you got a tour guide, so they don't really let you go get all rowdy. Those aren't fun either, dude.

That's like riding a freaking, yeah, I mean, they're just riding a horse. It's essentially just riding a horse. But when I was doing, yeah, the snowbike stuff at ERX, Cody Cam was there training on his factory race sled, and he let me take that thing, let's say go ride the track on it but it's like i couldn't even ride the track because it was so whipped out and rough the track and i'm trying to like do this thumb throttle and that thing was so fast i would hit like bumps to get whiskey thumb yeah it was just going to like rip out of my arms we should take you backcountry snowmobile yeah i think you would like that

because that's what your style i'm in and put a day in and just get acquainted with how the suspension works and everything instead of just pretty much threw me out on like a yeah rough ass track on the fastest snowmobile ever with like stiff suspension where you got to ride it fast to like make it work they engage at such a high RPM yeah yeah yeah it was just so foreign to me like it was badass but like I did a couple laps I'm like dude this I'd have no place of doing this right now they're hard to ride snow cross slides are hard to ride especially on the snow cross track yeah but one thing that'd be easy for you what you've talked about yeah coming back to ride on the glare ice yeah I'd love

to learn it we'll get you on some relatively thin ice We were, like, four inches, then we're for sure not going to break through. Yeah. No, yeah, that looks so fun. My dad being from Detroit, yeah, he's always talked a big game. Like, you're going to have to bring him for the ice guy. All right, dad, put your money where you're out there. We'll give him a bike.

We got a bike for you. You guys drag some handlebars out there. That'll be perfect for him because he's good at twisting the throttle. No, he's going to twist and throttle. Like, yeah, the jumping is his downfall, but, like, he's all right when he's on the ground. We'll just have to make sure he doesn't go out too far, get too carried away and, like, where it's real thin. Yeah, and end up in the ice,

like the thorn bushes swimming or anything, yeah. He's in the ice with a stowgy. It looked like me rolling across the ice, bikes at the bottom of the lake. Yeah, hitting a penguin slide. And yeah, I'm sure you guys would get a hoot out of him too if I brought him out here.

He'd be out here talking shit the whole time. Dude, that'd be fun the line. He loved the rich video. Yeah, oh, yeah, did he? Yeah, the rich video where you guys were giving them crap being a superstar for going to the paws off. My dad was laughing his ass off. Shout out, Rich.

Rich lined it up. So big shout to do Rich. We like to give Rich a lot of shit. Yeah, Rich is a man. He's always had my back too. I even got his puppies and coffee socks on. Wow. He'd be happy to see this.

I had like three cups today too. Yeah, there we go. Shout out puppies and coffee. That'd be sick to line up a sled trip. I think you'd have fun. And bring some people that have never rode sleds before and then just get them into it. It looks so fun. I've been seeing some videos too of like the pro snowmobiler's at free ride and stuff.

They can find this. sickest job. Yeah, he's a monster athlete. Yeah, Turcotte. Yeah, that'd be fun. And then, like, Shred 80, he's never rode in the mountains before. And then just bring in, like, a bushel of our friends. Well, no offense, Shred 80, but Axel might have a little more snowmobile control.

Just native snowmobile control. I guess. In general. Terrible comparison of two skill levels. To be fair, though. A diverse crowd. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

To be fair, though, a snowmobile is three points. contact. It's true. Maybe he'll be good at it. You know, three-wheeler. You know, three points of contact. He really wasn't in the mountains, but he did ride in like two feet of snow. And it was Mike's brand new sled that I'm not so sure Mike had even rode yet.

And he was upside down on that thing. Oh, really? Yeah. Not a good type upside down. Heavy D at the house out there in Utah. We did a little sneaky ride like, we'll unload the sleds. We'll go around back. He was tits over tea cattle immediately.

The soft snow looks a little bit more leisure to fall in, too. if you get away from your sleds. I'd rather crash in the powder than the hard pack of your extract. Yeah, it's way better. 100%. It's way better. We appreciate the time, Axel, dude. Sell sick.

It was easy. Yeah, thank you, bro. Started going quick. Appreciate you coming up here. No worries. Thanks for having me. You guys got a sick place out here. You guys seem to like to do all the same stuff I like to do.

You got some buildings going up with dirt bike tracks and it's kind of what we do out and Ramona at the sleighground. So, same, same, but different. Hell yeah. So if you guys haven't yet, check out his Instagram. Check out his YouTube channel. go to Snapchat. I'm giving away a 450 on my YouTube channel once I hit 500K.

So go. I hit the subscribe up. I'll try to get out some more edits as I can. I've been working my ass off trying to ride and get out at it. So I know I lag a little bit, but I'll get them out there. Oh, yeah. Check out. One man, man. Right on. Thank you, guys. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for coming on. We'll see you guys next week. New podcast every

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