Life Wide Open with CboysTV - Hailie Deegan on Growing up with the Metal Mulisha & Creepy Fan Encounters

Episode Date: October 27, 2021

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Welcome back to the Lifewide Open podcast. Today is a big day. We have our first ever guest on. Haley Degan. Really? You're the first ever guest? Like out of the group guest. Okay.

Go ahead. So it's a big day for us. You know, we don't get the opportunity to, you know, have a lot of people on because, as you guys know, not a lot of people probably come up this way. But luckily for us, we were filming some YouTube videos over the past couple of days. We figured we better hop on. What? You mean people don't fly into Minnesota and drive three and a half hours come down here? Not a lot of people.

It's not an occasional thing. No, not a lot of people. We don't do a lot of collab. only with cool people so i appreciate it i appreciate yeah the friendship that almost didn't happen oh yeah it's true you guys try to cancel on me we were so close to being not friends but enemies you guys were to just shit talked us to everyone no no no i totally understand because i all started with us planning to come down here and then we booked our flights and then you're like oh man like i don't think you guys should come this again yeah yeah and i totally understand especially

living out here like the weather's not right yeah just could make it so difficult not having enough vehicles to ride around like simple things and so I'm glad we all got it worked out and we all got to hang out and then we got to come back again yeah yeah it was it was the first collab and we didn't want you guys to show up and be disappointed like because we didn't have anything for you guys to yeah and I mean obviously you guys are used to you know playing with a lot toys you got you guys are around cool shit all the time so we just didn't want to have you fly in and be like damn well this is a waste of time you know because at the time we were like I I don't think they know what they're getting themselves.

Yeah, I was like, they want to collab with us. I think you guys undersell yourself a lot. Like, you guys are actually a lot more bigger deal. I think a lot of people and a lot of, like, a lot of fan bases, and I think to my fan base and a lot of other YouTubers fan bases. And I think maybe you guys don't see that because you are in Minnesota. True. So secluded.

Yeah. Yeah, it's so secluded here. There's like, the closest gas station. There's like one within like an hour radius. The gas station, convenience store, mall. Yeah. That's all in one. All in one.

And so that's probably why I think you guys don't think you're as big a deal, but I definitely think you guys are, like, well worth coming down here and collabing with you guys. We actually brought Haley on to just pump our tires. I'm the hype man. We're pretty stoked to not only just, like, form, like, a collabing relationship to make fun videos together, but, like, you and your boyfriend Chase and the rest of the crew.

Like, you guys are, like, are genuinely, like, our good friends now. Yeah, which is cool to see. It's nice because we don't hang around other, you know, creators or people in the space. So, like, we can just, you know, talk it up all night about YouTube or, you know, whatever. Because we're all kind of in the same. Yeah, and it's cool to see other people that are, like, in your same position and, like, start it out. We started out and, like, have experience it all. Like, whether it's going down to, like, just simply YouTube studio and, like, the depressing emotional rollercoaster of YouTube studio and, like, the one out of ten ranking.

And so it's like talking those talks with other people who understand it fully, I feel like it gives you like a sense, like a realization, like, okay, we're doing things right. Our channel's not tanking. Maybe it's just in a little hole right now. It just constantly goes up and now. And I think that's just the name of the game. But hearing it from other people, it just like, it's like satisfying. Yeah.

You guys have had a serious blow up, I will say. But I mean, 10 months ago you were just starting out and now you guys are just, you've been crushing it. And we'll get Chase on here later and have you guys talk about. that but I mean seriously like you guys work your asses off and I just do the talking Chase does all the magic behind the camera and the editing in Miller now we have on so I feel like he helps out so much and the two of them together like between I feel like Chase's strong suit is telling stories and I feel like where Miller's strong suit is is the cinematics in the photography so like both them together is like the ultimate combo and I feel like you've

seen it in this last like couple of videos that we've posted that it's like just heightened so much and everything like there's nothing left on the table like no crumbs left behind you got a good crew i i got to i got to say yeah that's important too very i'm sure you guys know yeah it is important so like you guys aren't you're not a youtube or would you consider yourself a youtube or would you consider myself a nassar driver first okay so let's get into that then so for the people that don't know you for that they might just know you from youtube or this might be the first time meeting you um give Like a little briefing on what your job title would be, like a NASCAR driver. Like, explain that.

Yeah, so pretty much I race in the NASCAR Campero Truck series. I started out racing lower levels of stock cars. But before that, I raced off-road trucks. Won a bunch of championships, a bunch of races, and off-road trucks. Only girl that ever do it. And I kind of peaked at 15 years old. Like, before I even had my license or anything in off-road racing, like, I was at the top-level winning, and I was like, what's next?

Like, I can't just peak right now at 15 years old in my career. So that's when I took the venture to stock car racing. So now it's five years into stock car racing, four or five years. And so I've just been going down that path of trying to make it in the sport of NASCAR and make it to be in the Cup series where like you see like the Kyle Bush, like where Jimmy Johnson race, Dale Jr. Like where all those people made their names. And so like that's where I want to be in like an image that I want.

And I want to be like those guys that are retired now that are still like the face of the sport. But like obviously I'm in the truck series and I still have a lot of work to do and still far to go. It's kind of like, there's three levels in like the top traveling series of NASCAR that kind of go together some races. Sometimes the trucks are by themselves or like not with the other series. But for the most part, it's together. And so like you're kind of on the main stage, but it's like the starter level of the main stage where all kind of the younger people race. So when you were racing the truck series or the off road series, sorry,

were you racing like full grown men? Yeah. Oh yeah. There was kids my age when I was in the cart class because it capped out at 16 years old. I actually got out of that class at 14 after I won the championship. I was like, let's move up. Like, I won the championship when I was 14 years old. And so we went to, like, the actual pro class, which my dad started in that a few years back. And so I was racing against guys that my dad started out racing with. And so, like, even guys now that are, like, fully married with, like, three kids.

And so I was, I've always raced against really, like, a lot of full-grown men. And you were just going in there as a 14-year-old girl and just clean and shop. Yeah. And, like, first and I finished second. It was cool. they get on the podium and I feel like off road racing I felt so comfortable like I felt like it like second nature for me like it was like it was like it was like walking like everything was just comfortable about it and so like going to stock racing it was like different so different

there's so much to learn and like I just felt so uncomfortable and like I'm still trying to feel completely comfortable to this day how fast are you going up like out there I would say the fastest we get like in the 190s at some of the bigger tracks that's and you take hits at that fast it hurts yeah yeah yeah that was my next question because, like, I've been, you know, following you and you keep getting in these crashes. It seems like it's got to hurt. So I've never really had, like, that bad of crashes before the last one at Bristol. And that was a couple of races ago.

But that was the worst hit I've had just because it was totally, like, totally caught off guard. Like, you're going pretty fast at Bristol. It's a small track. The walls come up quick. It's only a half mile, but you're still going, like, 150. Like, you're still going really fast, and the racing's tight. Jesus. Yeah.

And so someone shot down, hit the in. inside wall and came up and I thought I was going to clear him because I'm still going wide open trying to clear him I can't like it happened so fast I didn't even have time to check up and just hit me and then smoked me into the wall and 150 miles yeah and so like that double hit is what really hurts and then you like slap the rear to the nose and originally I broke my jaw because it like it rattled my head so back first hand it was grab my jaw I was like I still connected and then I was like fine from there but I was sore for a couple days after but like initially that was a hard hit you get concussion

you could yeah but i did it i did it no have you um no never had concussion wow i take that back i think i did one time i was on a segue and it turned off and i went back and hit my head and then i kind of don't remember everything right isn't it crazy how like extreme uh sports athletes always get hurt doing like the most random thing right and i got a segue for one of my birthdays and it was like a baby pink segue i was like no probably a hoverboard like the little one oh like a full-blown It had off-road tires on it. And it was pink. Yeah, my parents had it powder-coated pink.

And so, yeah, yeah. Everything was pink when I was little. And I was just riding it around the property. And we'd take it off jumps. And I was just going straight up a hill. And, like, it went ding, ding, ding. And I fall back in my head, but I don't remember falling. So you had like a pretty unique growing up childhood.

Your dad is Brian Deegan. He founded Metal Militia. Am I right? Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, FMX rider and just crazy. I mean, he was like the bad boy of the early 2000s, like, freestyle motorcross. Yeah. What was that like growing up? It was crazy. And I think I didn't realize how different it was until I started getting around people with normal families.

Like normal parents that worked like nine to five jobs and like stay at home moms and like the husband goes to works and like comes home every day and like eats dinner with their kids. And I didn't realize I was so abnormal because it was normal for me. and the people were around it was the same thing. And so, like, a couple of the other motocross guys and the truck guys had daughters that I would hang out with, and those were my friends. And so it felt normal because I was always around those people. Were they always at your house, like at your compound?

Yeah, because my dad kind of had, like, the main compound where everyone went to. And so everyone was always over there. Like, it was always, like, a bunch of guys riding. Like, my little brother Hayden, my mom would put him in a high chair and, like, stick him outside, and just he would watch them ride for hours. And he would get so mad if he brought him. inside. And, like, he just, like, he just sat there, like, mesmerized. And I still, like, to this day, believe, like, that's why Hayden is, like, so obsessed with the sport and so invested

is because he was so invested and so intrigued with it from a young age. Like, it was in his blood instantly. It's just, it's, like, so crazy because in my eyes, like, Brian Deegan founded, like, the freestyle type, right? It was, like, one of the first guys to do it. It was, it's so hard to say, like, who was the guy. It was more a group of guys that brought it to who was doing like Krusty Demon stuff and then brought it to X games. And that's kind of when it all started. Because X games was just massive at the time.

Yeah, X games, it's like the Tony Hawk era. And like all those guys gave me. So they were the first group to do freestyle? Yeah, so like my dad was in that first group. It was like him, Travis Bistron. Travis was like 15 years old. And like if you go back and watch the movie Unchained on Netflix, it tells the whole story.

And so like of everyone like Seth Enzlo, Mike Metzger, a Twitch was there, kind of, Twitch was coming in when it was starting. So, like, he was still pretty fresh to it. But, like, all those guys that were there. And it's, like, it's so cool to see, like, how it evolved and, like, all those guys now. Yeah. You'd be surprised how many are tattoo artists.

Really? Yeah. Because they're all, like, tatted out guys, which is, like, cool. I like tattoos. Yeah. I think tattoos are cool. And that's probably just the household I grew up in. But, like, all of them, like, a bunch of them are, like, tattooed artists now.

Oh, man. Yeah. So, like, he was just, like, fuck the system, rebel against the social norm. of like motorcross and that's like what was born from it he had like two options it's like okay either i'm gonna do do the right thing you know and like kind of comply with like corporate america it kind of be like right in everyone's eyes and he just went the complete opposite like complete 180 and took the other route which it worked for him like great i don't think in today's society it would work but back then in that era it did and it was truly like a movement of freestyle

like freestyle more sports that was really cool yeah it was like you had to choose between Travis Pistrana or Brian Deegan. Exactly. You were either one side or the other. Exactly. You don't think it would work today? I don't know. Just because, like, society is too.

Yeah, I think it's not, I think it's just like the way society is, I think a lot of the stuff that was okay back then is it okay now? And I feel like it wouldn't be accepted the way it was. And I feel like people are a lot more like, a little more monotone and not so like outspoken. And so I feel like that's why it wouldn't work. He was like the modern, he was like the modern day, like bad boy YouTuber. Uh-huh, yeah.

You know, like the Danny Duncan type. Yeah, yeah. A little more like savage like that. Yeah. They were living like rock stars. Yeah. I remember like watching just videos, you know, as a kid. And yeah, they were just crazy.

Like they were just the bad boys. Absolutely crazy. Like watching videos, I'm like destroying stuff in hotels. Yeah. Why do you guys even do that? I'm like, what came out of that besides a bill? Yeah. But it was more just like a whole like,

friendship and group and like a whole vibe of it is their look yeah it was their image it was like truly their image but it was like who they were yeah and like you figure you like you get a rise out of something you're probably going to keep doing that it's like you keep getting a rise out of it you're like oh more's better it was like a serious moment because i wasn't there like a time in california like if you were wearing metal militia gear you couldn't go into certain bars yeah okay yeah no it was bad you couldn't wear metal militia in schools in california dude because it was like it was like it was that big of a movement it was like a i don't want to say a gang but you know like they probably looked at it it wasn't it wasn't a gang but it was like

just a group of guys that were reckless yeah they were just causing havoc yeah and so like it actually got banned from law of schools and like one of my best friends growing up like it was banned from her school right across the street and so like she couldn't wear any of the clothes and then you're like that's my dad that's awesome that's cool yeah and it was but like I didn't realize any of those things until I got older and like I was like oh man that's kind of that's kind of not good when you were watching that like as a as a kid um did you ever want to follow in that footsteps or like how did you end up in nascar is my question yeah so it's kind of uh my dad had enough like knowledge in motorsports to realize you were never going to make it in motocross just because

like just being a girl physically and me i'm a small girl i'm 5.4 way 130 pounds like i'm small I'm not and like I know people like oh Ricky Carmichael but like it takes a true like strength like obviously like there's a reason why like most men bench more than girls like just because you're naturally stronger like it just comes naturally and I feel like that's something it would be so much harder for a girl to make it in a sport like motorcross because it takes such a toll on your body and that's why so many people have like smallest body issues take them out of the sport like and I feel like it'd just be so hard and be kind of like almost impossible obviously it is possible by all means but there has been someone to do it yet and honestly they didn't want to put me in racing and they had no intention to put me in racing but my dad went to his first off-road truck race I saw a little kids my age I was seven at the time they were like eight to 16 racing and I was like I want to do it that's what I want to do like I want to try it and I would ride around on like a quad at the house and like little like polaris razors and stuff and like that was like those little small kid ones and so they ended up getting me an off-road truck for my birthday my eighth birthday I begged I begged them for like every single day

What does that look like? Or, like, what is, like, a small kid off-road truck? I'll show you a picture of it, but it's, like, legit. Have you seen, like, Baja trucks? Yeah? Like, like. That's what I'm picturing. Yeah.

You being eight years old, like a small one. But it's a mini one. It's like a 450 compared to, like, pit bike. Oh. Mm-hmm. It's virtually like that. Okay. So you just hopped in and started mobbing.

Yeah. And, so they're, like, 450 Yamaha Quad Motors. And it's, like, that's what was in it, like, shifting and everything. And so I've raced that until I was about 14. Sounds fun. Yeah, it sounds really cool. Yeah, it does. It's like me as like a little kid.

It sounds like my dream. Uh-huh. And it was like, it was so cool because there was other kids in my age doing. And there's a few girls in it because the other dads that raced had their daughters in it. But like no other girls made it past that and passed like the off-row truck stuff. But like it's cool to have other girls. Like all my little girlfriends and stuff. Like we race together and it was like fun.

And it just, it was a cool childhood. So is there like still girls racing? at the level that you're racing at now in NASCAR stuff yeah yeah there's a few a few like a handful of them not many that are in like development programs like with foreign and stuff um it's you're definitely the biggest i wouldn't say I'm the biggest but like I feel like I right now there's so many great people behind me and I feel like I have so many opportunities to make it in the sport and it's so hard to make it in the sport of NASCAR involves so much money so many good people on your side and having the right team behind you and having like the right head on your shoulders.

And I feel like we have a good probability and a really good system to be able to make it. Aren't you one of the most followed NASCAR drivers? Yeah. I am the most followed NASCAR drivers. Like Instagram stuff like that. That's nuts. It's crazy. That's got to be like a hit to every other NASCAR driver's ego.

And I think it's, I grew up in California. California is like influencer nation. Like if you don't own a camera, like you're like, who? are you? Yeah. I was going to ask you, so, like, growing up in California, but you don't live there now, right? And would you ever go back? I think if I retired one day, I might go back to California or, like, say I couldn't race anymore. I got hurt and I couldn't race anymore. I'd probably go back to California because I just like the vibe there. Like, I like people go to go the beach and go off-roading all in, like, the same area. And it was just, it was really cool living there.

So was it, what was it like having, you know, massive influencers, like constantly coming to your house it was so normal like it was like hey my hayden my little brother i remember like when i was like i think 17 18 he's like oh like taylor holder and like all his friends are coming over today he's like just the ticotkers when they were like blowing up yeah heans like texting him on his ipod and it's like and when all they were like and they show up in like a provost bus into like our dirt road house and so like it was always so normal like we had the Kardashians and stuff um like bruce back when he was um bruce yeah and so back when um all them were together still and like they were kind of a whole family came out um him didn't but there was a few other ones there and did what

crazy uh they just pretty much came and drove off our drugs didn't you collab with uh dixie demilio i did huh she came over for a day too it's so random but it's like all those famous people i think uh kind of always wanted to do something like that like go and like rip a razor or something like that um and you guys just have like the perfect compound and it's super close to la so it was like it's like such a interesting dynamic yeah like Bryce hall and um all those guys came over like the sway house guys like Hayden just text him one day and they all just showed up so funny it's so funny because like hayden like on his little iPod yeah like texting people would come over i'm like do you realize who these people are and he's like yeah yeah they like do social media he's so tainted to it too

yeah yeah it becomes so like jaden yeah when we were at your guys house yeah i was gonna say it was like a revolving door there were so many people coming in like really good riders it's i mean just a compound i know it's so weird that you guys came to my house i had no you were racing i think i was probably outracing we were only there for like a hour yeah yeah yeah we showed up and all these other athletes are there and they're like so what are you guys doing we're like youtube and they were like then go and jump your little brother was like then go and hit that jump we were like not that kind of not that's that That's just, that's Hayden, that's Hudson.

They have no filter, like no filter. Yeah, we figured that out. If you say you own your pit bike, they're like, oh, yeah, you can go back flip over there if you want to. And they're so straightforward. Like, Hayden's the same way with me. Hudson's the same way. They just, like, grew up like that. No, they weren't being rude or nothing.

Like, it was. They probably were. They're very rude. No, it was good. It was nice. Speaking of, like, that kind of stuff. So obviously, they're like, go back with that because they just have grown up, most people that come to the house probably know how to be.

backflip and do all this crazy stuff was it scary like watching your dad on tv or were you just so used to it you didn't care like yeah so like hudson hudson's probably the one that said that to you guys because he loves putting people on the spot like he knows what he does he's got a little sneaky personality he'll put you on the spot he's like go do it yeah that's a hudson thing for sure but growing up with my dad i didn't realize how dangerous the stuff was that he was doing and there was a big realization for me as in one of the crusty demon movies when he was at um beville Bamb doing the whole thing over there when you blew up his kidney and almost died and so like I watched one of the crust I think it was the Krusty Demons movie about that like when it had that segment in it and it was showing I remember I was eight maybe 10 years old and it showed like it was obviously exaggerated to an extent like they showed like his tombstone like on the screen I bawled my eyes out geez balled my eyes out like eight 10 to 10 year old me like yeah oh my god my dad's gonna die. And so, like, that, like, traumatized me when I was that age.

But I think that opened my eyes at how dangerous a sport was. Man. Yeah. So, like, when he would be, like, your mom and you, would you be there on the sideline? Yeah, I went to all that games. Would it be just super nervous? Super nervous, yeah.

So, like, when I was younger, a lot younger, and they went to winner X games. I didn't go to those ones when I was, like, two or three years old. My mom would go, and I'd be at my grandparents' house watching. So, like, when my dad did Winner X games where you broke both of his arms, both of his legs, like, like. Oh, it was like the snow, the snow motorcross, right? They did it for, they did it for a few years. But, like, he tamed it down because he tried to go 360 there. And so, wait, what was you doing?

They had studded tires on the dirt bike, dude. Yeah, it was 360. Just gnarly. Was it freestyle? Yeah, no, it was best trick, I believe. On the snow. Snow. On to basically ice, because it was like, the landing was so packed down and, like, watered it.

So it just turned into straight. It was just a block of. It was so, that's so dangerous. Who's that? I don't know. Who's idea was that? I don't know. It was cool.

I mean, it was great, great television. Yeah, my dad obviously got the worst end of the stick of that. Was there not snowmobiles at the time? No, there was. I'm sure we're going to do something new. Yeah. I'm sure they're just, it was like trying to bring it, I guess, like, Winnerx games, because there's obviously like some Rex games and WinRx games.

And I think it was just kind of, but also I think that was a product of freestyle motorsport or freestyle motocross is that it was all trial and air. Like, especially back then. How do you, how do you base a whole sport off something like you're learning as you're going? Yeah. And so it was like, oh, like, if we could do it on dirt, like, why not snow? Right. And so it just didn't work.

I feel like those guys have like the mentality, like they're not going to back down from really anything. No, it's like false. It's like if you back down, if you're that guy to back down, there's like someone else that's going to. Right. It's constantly trying to prove yourself. Hmm. What would you attribute you and your brother's like a superstar motorcycle racer racer, right? He's crazy good, yeah.

He's going to be professional 450. he's going to be a goat, right? So what would you attribute, like, your success and his success to? Like, why are you guys both, like, such extreme athletes? I would say Hayden's was because he was so young around motocross, and that was, like, what my dad's core thing was. Like, my dad's core was obviously dirt bikes. And I feel like he, like, was so accepted by all the guys

and, like, constantly around them so much, like, playing with the little action figures and, like, so involved in it and I think he was just it was just so relevant and I feel like that's why he got so invested to it it was like my parents weren't going to put Hayden racing they were like we're not having our son race because they didn't want him get hurt they didn't want him to get hurt and then like he's like I want a dirt bike I want a dirt bike and he was like five six years all at the time and like just natural talent like hard to say no to that too as a parent yeah and like how do you like how do you like know when they want to do something and my parents were always pretty good

like when it came to like if you want to do it like we will go and do it but you have to take it seriously and so like even back when i was racing off road started racing off road like they didn't want to put me in cars i like they didn't want me to race like they were like oh here's our little girl that's in girl scouts and like loves wearing pink and hair bows i i don't know if i actually like that i think my mom liked it more on me but like i like they just saw our love for it and that's what invested them to put us in it So, like, it just honestly, like, I think we kind of took the initiative ourselves to, like, we want to do this. And my parents saw that and just got behind it.

It's pretty cool because, like, growing up in California, I think you could have just as well, I mean, you were surrounded by it all. But let's say you were surrounded by a little more influencers than you were. You could have just ended up being like, yeah, I want to be a YouTuber, which you are second or a TikToker. They're like, no, I want to race trucks. Yeah. And I think. I want to compete and make something. for yourself for sure and i feel like that influencer role it's so easy to get wrapped into and i feel like

there's like a way to make a longevity out of it like there's a certain like formula whatever you have to find your thing to make it a long career and i feel like i never saw like a steady career for me in social media it was like i'm without racing i feel like i'm nothing and i feel like that's what makes our channel our channel it's what makes my social media my social media it's a girl doing practically most guy's up like that's kind of i'm killing it yeah and so like that's our kind of our thing. That's your stick. Yeah.

What's, what is, what's that like being a girl that does all guy stuff in like a male dominated industry? I feel like you constantly like, you just have to just kind of do what everyone else does. Like even if it comes to YouTube, like we do some sketchy stuff or like even riding pit bikes like the jump out there. I'm like, oh, everyone else hitting it. So I'm going to try to hit it. And so it's like, would you, if it wasn't for you like, do you enjoy doing that stuff?

I do. Yeah, I really do enjoy doing that stuff. Like you and my little brother and me would go ride pit bikes for hours. We'd go ride pit bikes to the gym. And so, like, just having fun. And I feel like, it's just, it was, it obviously is very different being a girl in racing. And I feel like it has its differences. But I feel like it's only as different as you make it.

And I feel like you can obviously make it a lot more. Like, I feel like it's a respect thing also with some of the guys at the racetrack. Like, when I first got into the truck series this year, I feel like I had to kind of earn the respect to everybody. Like, show everybody. I'm not here to mess around. I'm here to, like, do. good race hard and like i ain't going to take anything like i ain't going to go out there and let you push me around on the track and i feel like that's something i had to prove over time like i noticed

even going in the truck garage i the first time i remember like no one talked to me no one like look at me or like they gave me weird looks and like now everyone's super cool says hi and it's like i feel like it's truly a respect thing and i feel like that's a big difference you have to earn it and prove yourself like guy to guy they automatically have respect for each other i've learned this over time. Really? Guys automatically have this like sense of respect where they don't like look at each other weird. Like I feel like if you see a guy, you're, oh, what's up, dude?

Like it's kind of just comes natural. But I feel like guy to grow when it comes to racing, it's not like that. It's like you have to earn it. Yeah. Interesting. I would think in some cases it might be the other way around where they look at you and they'll just be like, not that they're going to like let you win or anything, but they'll be a little easier on you.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Because what guy wants to get beat by a girl. It's true. Yeah. Or maybe they'd put on that show in person, but then on the racetrack, yeah. Yeah, it's like completely opposite. Do you have guys acting like super weird when you do beat them? It's usually some of the older guys that get more mad, like, when I battle with them on the track.

And so, like, if it's like, say a guy does something to me on the track, I'm probably going to do it right back to you. Like, it's kind of, it's racing. Like, that's what you do. If you drive me down to the inside wall, I'm probably going to do the same thing to you if I pass you. Do they ever, like, like, bitch out? But do they ever, like, bitch out from not hitting? you back because you're a girl? No.

Really? No. No, not at all. You know, because it's like, don't hit a girl. No, uh-uh, no. But then as soon as you put the helmet on, it was like, yeah, it's kind of like a gray area. No, it just, like, it's never like that. And, like, I feel like they get more frustrated with you quicker.

I had one guy completely cussed me out on the radio. And, like, I found it back through the scanner of what he said. And it was just like, he didn't say it. I can't even say it. I can't say it. And so like... Put this guy on blast. We did already, but...

Sent Jason to beat his ass. But like, I know it's like, I get flipped off so much while racing. They flip you off while driving? Yes, like right out the window. Road rage on the track. Like, I can't even... I can't even count how many times. Wow.

Yes. What? I mean, I guess it's not against the rules, but... No, like, I guess it's not even put your hand out of the window. People get that mad about it? That, that press. Because it's like their livelihood and in their, like, But it's like my livelihood, too.

Like, dude, I get that, but it's like, do they just take it that much more? I think they take it. Like, if there's a 40-year-old guy out there that's been racing in the truck series for 10, 20 years, like, I know, I'd be mad if I was probably a guy and some girl, some young girl, her first year comes in here and beats me. Yeah. Like, and then starts driving me as hard as I drive her. Huh. What the hell? Like, you'd probably be frustrated.

Even if you don't show it, you'd probably still be frustrated. Like, what am I doing wrong? you're like right but like i get i get flipped off every single race wow do you get out of the car and is it weird then when you see them like in the pits no i act like everything's fine like everyone's so awkward inside the pits everyone like no one actually so like some of the drivers i wouldn't be able to like turn that off i'd be like hey fuck you yeah i didn't forget about it there's days i want to do that and i've had my fair share of lashing out at like guys like getting in their face but like not anything oh and so like you've gotten in some guys

I've got it in a few, but, like, that was back when I first started racing. Like, what do you say? Like, it just, like, you know, you're like, don't do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. I, I, hey. Hold me back, Chase.

Hold me back. But, like, that was kind of my early stages of stock racing once I started figuring out the ropes. Like, oh, man, people do drive me sometimes a little bit harder. There's occasionally those guys that have it out for me. But I kind of got past that. And I'm like, at the end of the day, say, you're another racer. You take me out.

I go up to you. I hit you. you what are you going to do i was probably spin out no like like if i know oh in the face no no and like in the face why get out of the truck and i hit you in the face yeah i'd be a bad look for them way worse if they hit you back so it looks bad on my part because i i know you can't hit me back and then it looks bad on your part if you do hit me back yeah damn so it's a lose lose right so what about the guys that don't have it out for you but are like weirdly infatuated with you so like The fans.

Yeah, and like super creepy with you. Because NASCAR has got to be, what, like 95% male? Yeah. My fan base is 89% male. On Instagram. We were going to ask you that. On most of social media. Ours is like, that's crazy that it's not much different than ours.

I think yours is 86. No. I think it's 96. 90s. No, it's in the 80s. I know it's in the 80s because I was like, we're in the 80s place. We're in the 80s. I can't believe that.

No, but like. I've had, like, most, there's a lot of people that are very respectful and, like, fans and stuff, like, very respectful and, like, totally understand, like, what, and I feel like YouTube gives a sense of that reality, like, what I'm going through my journey and the ones that kind of get obsessive with you. Like, I have a restraining order on someone. I've had people show up at our house in California when I live there to, like, come pick me up. What? Yeah. Just that you would, they're obsessed with you. What do you come pick you up?

Like, try to come pick me. Oh, like, kidnap you? Yeah. Like, not kidnap. They want to, like, dater. Like, in their head, they believe. leave that like oh she wants to be with me or like all fake instagram pages fake haley degan pages i've been facing this problem a lot and like i don't talk about it nor do i really like acknowledge it

but i do see it on instagram it's like hey i've been messaging messaging you on here and it's like let's meet up and like this fake person is messaging catfishing yeah but like obviously you kind have to be smarter of like hey if it doesn't have a blue check mark and the followers behind it people are posing as you asking people for money let's meet up and like it's just that stuff sketchy. I bet a lot of people fall into that. Yeah, and so I don't want some fake fake Haley-Degan account messaging someone, like, let's meet up, give them my actual address, and then I'm like, uh, like, that wasn't me. Dangerous. Yeah. That's just the cost to being famous, though. But even worse when you're a girl. That's in, yeah, yeah,

NASCAR. Uh-huh. And like, sometimes people will get, like, a little, hey, I'm kind of, like, the autograph session thing is kind of like, it was a nice break for a little while. Obviously, like, I want to get back to signing fan stuff. I want to get back. back to meeting people and like seeing like people where my merchandise at the track like that's great i love that but like the part of like having some men come up to me and like grab me weird or like grab my butt and like i'm not okay with that like that's fucked up yeah i don't that's so fucked up and they're old guys you need like security do you have bodyguards or like chase chase like i need to go to gym just rip the sleeves off jason nobody's going to be

messing with it gets some more tattoos too yes yeah you'll be dialed yeah but also i feel like I try to stray away from that as much as possible with what I post on social media. Like I don't try to post anything really seductive on social media. Like I wear the same black leggings every day. If not, I'm wearing a $10 pair of jeans and hoodies. Like I don't, I don't dress seductively. I don't really post anything that's like, oh, let me post in my like, oh, it's just not what I really do. And so it's like.

No bikini picks for thumbnails. And so there's a difference of like, I feel like on social media, like trying to get people to comment about. it like look at me look at me and then i feel like obviously like if you're doing like wake surfing wakeboarding like it can't really be in a hoodie and legging it's like it kind of goes like what you're doing and so if you're in the water if you're going to a lake like you're obviously going to be in a bathing suit but like i don't like want to provoke that to be like that's what i'm trying to be about like to where people are like oh well she wants me to say this stuff to

her she like i don't know yeah i agree it's very obvious looking at your instagram like that you You keep it clean and, like, respectable. And I feel like that's also kind of a corporate, like, trying to deal with corporate sponsors. You want to keep it clean. Yeah, it would kind of look weird if you were, like, I mean, obviously there's other girls that are doing stuff like that. But, yeah, it wouldn't be the right look.

Yeah. You doing that is also, like, equally asking for respect from everyone else. Yeah. No, yeah. They can't just be like, oh, like, she's just, you know, baiting everyone in. Like, you can't call me an Instagram model. Yeah. Like, I don't model, nor do I look like I do on social.

media so yeah no it's very respectable for sure not that there's anything wrong with doing oh yeah no no no there's nothing wrong at all like if you that's what you want to promote that's what you want to be about go for it like right i don't have problem with it like and i feel like there's too many people that kind of get invested in other people's lives of like trying to tell them what to do and judge them like dude if it doesn't affect you who cares like and that's kind of like the page i'm on like it doesn't personally affect me i really don't care about it if you or to quit racing and you wanted to make a lot of fucking money would you start an only fans oh no you wouldn't i'm way too self-conscious because i didn't like you're like fan base if it's 8 90 90% male right

got a million followers yeah and then a bunch of youtube subscribers why are you looking at chase oh i was looking at chase because he he was making a weird face over there what i don't know what i'm just curious i feel like because you don't have to post nudity No, I get, yeah, I guess, like, I don't know, you see some of those, like, social media influencers who, like, just post, like, bikini shots and stuff. But still, you don't need that, though, you're doing it without it. No, I'm just curious. I'm just, I'm just asking what your thought is on that.

I mean, if you do only fans, like, go for it. Like, if you have a great body and, like, feel like you're pretty and confident, like, go for it. That's not my problem. Like, I don't have a problem with, like, some girl, if I met a girl, or, like, if I met one of your girlfriends, like, oh, yeah, I do only fans, I wouldn't judge her for that would be probably very normal for you I wouldn't be like oh you're like weird

or something like I would never do that like if that's what you want to do go for it that's if you're making a bag off that go for it like yeah like and so like I don't I don't know like there's always like those funny conversations like look how all these girls making so much money off only fans and stuff but I'm like I don't think I could you could because you very well could but you just don't want to and then also it's like oh well I'll just go under cover

well you can't you need a following to be successful on platforms like that oh so like go undercover as like like what do you mean like if you're not famous and then you do that like people that are like because how it's not like only fans promotes you on like their four you page it's like follow our I don't even know how it's like message the guys on there too yeah oh no speaking i don't know i've never oh you don't have to have miller come here and message people Oh, I thought you were going to say Miller, Kevin. Yeah. What's up? What's up?

So, so speaking of messages, I would imagine your, I mean, your DMs have got to be some weird stuff in there from time to time. All the way from like old Vine people, like big name when Films is on Vine, SoundCloud rappers, like. SoundCloud rappers? You would be shocked at the amount of SoundCloud Rapids. rappers are like, yo, baby girl, like, I just released this song. Like, hey, like, you should listen to it and, like, let me know what you think. SoundCloud rappers are so weird. It's so confident.

They're just hustling, man. They're trying to get it. You got to release it. Why is that so common for a SoundCloud rapper? It's just, they hustle, I guess. Like, I mean, like, it's not like I ever respond to any of them ever, but it's fun going through them. Like, I get a kick out of, like, list of watching or going through my DMs and

laughing. I'm sure. Have you had some, like, real famous? guys slide in there's there's a couple like a couple probably can't drop the name i i don't think i could drop their name i wouldn't want to do that too like how famous like there was remember that one old guy off vine that i showed you and i didn't even know you can go under top requested on instagram until this moment i went under there he has like 22 million followers i know exactly who he is from vine he was a big name on vine and so i won't say his name logan paul no no no um but logan if you want to

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Back to the program. I guess I was more so like aiming at like, I'm sure there's a lot of like creepy dudes just as many as probably way more in your DMs than you see at like the races. Yeah, I feel like people get confident over text and stuff. Yeah. That's just how it is and I feel like you go under your DMs.

Like sometimes I just laugh. Really like say. Like stuff I can't. Just try to pick you up. You can't even talk about it. Like it's like some of them are so bad like just the stuff they say. I'm like. Like you type that message

You read that message And you're like, hell yeah This is the one And you think she's gonna be like that is awesome Wow Wow It's so weird to think about like normal people Like people like that

And then think about them living like their normal lives Out in society like working When I get those weird messages Like are you just like the typical person I see at Walmart on like the self-checkout line Like could you be that person? So it's really weird stuff Yeah there's some of stuff

That's why it changes a lot once you meet a person Like, we'll get, you know, a bunch of... What are you saying, Mike? You send messages like that? No, no. You need them, it's a lot of her. I'll send it. Mike's sticking up for them.

But, yeah, like, I'll get messages. Since Haley's here, you'll get messages that are like, oh, Hayley's here, say this or say this. And most of them aren't inappropriate. Some of them are, and it makes you want to be like, don't say that. Yeah. Don't say that.

Would you say that to her in person sort of thing? That is so strange because before you even came here this first time, we were in, like, the ditch. and just like a random guy and a truck came up and like he had to have been like 55, 60 and he didn't even announce that we were heard Haley Deegan's coming

like congratulated us and was like was like yeah she's a cute girl and we were like it's not like that no is this like common yeah yeah yeah like I just like yeah and so

it just comes with the territory it just comes with it I guess and like honestly like nothing happens like you're just saying stuff like who cares whatever and so but like we did a video one time like we were driving out of Bristol Murray Speedway after a race after one of the races that had there and so

like I was in the backseat Chase and one of our other old friends was in the front seat and they were asking like yo do you know what do you think of Haley Deegan and like it was either we were waiting for like oh she's a good racer or like she sucks like she's terrible like try to get that reaction and like it was never like

she's a good racer it was like she's hot And you're like, and I'm in the backseat. I'm like, sup. Did you put the window down? Oh, I would look at it and I go, sup. And it just made it super awkward. Would they just go red? Super awkward.

And I'm like, see, you would never say that to my face. Right. Yeah, you handle it well. You handle it really, really well. I'm sure you deal with it all time. Your dad think of that. My dad, my dad predicted the stalker before the stalker came to our house. Really?

My dad's really good about going through social media and like seeing the things that are overboard if they're weird and so like he actually we talked about that guy that came to our house um and tried to pick me up um what'd you do call the cops sorry yeah no no no no call the cops obviously um and he went to jail for a little bit um yeah and so um he actually saw you comment on post he's like hey like block this guy or whatever because we i have my block list is huge if you say something that's messed up on my page like i have a lot of kids that follow me i don't say messed up on stuff. I don't say messed up stuff on Instagram or captions or coming back people

and like neither should you on my social media. Like there's kids there. I have a lot of young kid followers that look up to me and I want to be a good role model for that. So I feel like I just blocked anything that's like bad or negative. And so he's like, hey, block this guy and I forgot to block it.

Like I was like okay because my dad would send me so many of those. And he's like, hey, watch out of this guy. And I forgot to do it. And then like that's he's like I sent you that guy. Over text, I go back through my text, and it was that guy. And I'm like, I have like a gated community to get into your house.

Like a full gate, like a huge, no, no, no. I was leaving to go to Target. He was in an Uber and came in when I was driving out to go to Target. The dude didn't even roll up in his own car. He was with an Uber. Imagine how awkward it was for the Uber driver. He sold his car to pay for the plane ticket to get there. Oh, he flew there.

Holy shit. Oh, my God. That is a stocker. Yeah. No, legit. Scary. And he was 30 years old. I was 19.

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Well, that's kind of admirable, though. Yeah, he really sent it. Dedication. Jokes, jokes, jokes. Don't be a fucking stalker, you weirdos. Yeah, like, dude, like great effort, but like you got the wrong girl. Hey, man, put the effort into somebody. Something else.

Yeah, no, no, it ain't me. Yeah. You're not that guy, pal. No. Oh, my God. Wow. I think you figured that out by now. Yeah.

Seriously. Um, so Donald Trump Jr. follows you. Yes. That's, that's really cool. That's pretty cool. It's very cool. He's a cool guy. Like, he's genuinely like a cool guy.

I'm jealous. Do you guys talk? Yeah. About what? Like, we, he'll respond to my stories. I'll respond to his stories. Like, what? I think I got my aunt like a job at the Trump golf course.

What? That's good. I messaged him because we live close to a Trump golf course in North Carolina. And I was like, yo, like, if you ever need a good, like, someone at the golf course or like need a good, she's a event. coordinator and she works in California and she wants to do North Carolina I was like oh if you guys need a good event coordinator like my

aunt's looking for a job out in North Carolina she's came from this part of and he knows obviously where the wineries are where we live by and so he's like yeah send me her application over and stuff and like all get hooked up that's badass damn and you met Trump though yes I did

and his wife really yeah at a game or at Daytona 500 yeah uh huh so they showed up at Daytona 500 and it's like Idiot. Five selected big name NASCAR drivers, and it's like me. Like, I raced like a week before the actual race because I wasn't on like the big NASCAR circuit yet.

And he wanted to meet you? And how did that work? I messaged Trump Jr. It was like the goal for, I didn't even message him. I actually just tweeted. Go for today is get my helmet signed by Trump. I wanted my helmet signed by the president. Like that's pretty cool.

Like when? That's very cool. It was two years ago. It was two years ago, yeah, 2019. Okay. And so I was like, I want to get my helmet signed. And like that my helmet. it was sick like super like american flag like had like soldiers and stuff because one of the

companies i was sponsored by and so i was like i want to get this helmet sign like it'll be so sick if i get a sign and so um he saw my tweet because i tagged him in it and messaged me he he's like hey can you follow because i didn't even follow him i guess i don't i'm not big on twitter but he's like hey you need to follow me back so i can message you oh he tweeted you that yes uh-huh And so I obviously followed him back I don't follow many people on Twitter at all Because I don't use Twitter that often And we just got to like talking

He's like yeah we're gonna be at this spot And like I'd give my helmet for like five hours So they could security check it Oh wow Yeah Wow And they like gave it back here before yeah And so he signed it like

He talked to me about racing And it was so cool What was it like? They're tall people Really? Tall, very tall And like you might not notice Because his wife is also tall

But they are like They got some high on him like how tall is he like above six foot for sure he's a big man yeah so what did he say hello haley he like shook my hand like we took pictures and he's like it's so that's so awesome how you're racing is like i can't believe you raced around here like that's crazy and like how long have you been doing it man wow yeah and then his wife was like you're so pretty and i was like thank you so cool it was like we were there for probably like 20 minutes did they like jealous did did uh his security like pat you down and give you like a full brief no uh-uh wow yeah like i don't know just

just a helmet just a helmet i guess because that's like an object you get a lot of backlash i lost 10 000 followers i gained 50 000 yeah i'd imagine most of your fans would think that's pretty cool yeah like at the end of the day and it's the president yeah no matter if you're republican democrat you if you get to meet the president it's a cool thing yeah like i don't i don't like i'm not going to judge you if you're like oh like hell yeah like that sucks like you're you're a bad person now because you got your helmet signed by the president like it's a president it is like the man of the united states of the world it's like like arguably the most powerful man of the world you disagree you don't think no i was just shaking my head you're a pretty dumb dude

if you're like mad about someone getting their helmet signed by the president just because you don't like them yeah either way that's cool it's like at the end of the day like i i it's a president I'm going to get my helmet sign no matter who it is. Yeah. Yeah. You have it up on your wall then, I assume? It's in the back of my car. I use the helmet for the rest of the season.

Oh, well, that's cool. Yeah, I got it clear-coded, so it doesn't check off. That's cool. Mm-hmm. That's cool, then. Everyone's like, put this helmet away. Like, I looked like, I looked up how much I could sell it for. I obviously would never sell it in, like, 50 grand.

Like, an actual signature, like, on an object. I wonder how they, how do they know what's real? I don't know. She's got the picture in the video. I want to be easier to prove. I have a video of him signing it. Right. Didn't you, weren't you sponsored by Barstool Sports?

I was at one point. Did you meet Dave Portnoy? Yes. Yeah, because, yeah, man. How was that? He's cool. He's cool, super cool. Like, the real president and El Presidency.

And so, like, you know, he was such a cool guy. Like, I pretty much just message to him on Instagram. Or, like, he sent me some merch. Like, and I rep this Barstow hoodie, like, doing, like, it was such a comfortable hoodie. Like, I didn't even, like, really, like, pay attention much to it. And actually, I take that back. He bought one of my merchandise shirts, wore it in an Instagram story of him just talking.

It said, like, Haley Deegan, right there. And I was like, I remember seeing that. No, it is a gray shirt. And I ended messaging him. I was like, yo, that's sick. And he's like, yo, let me send you some merch. I'm like, sweet, awesome. And so I wrapped that bars to a hoodie forever.

Like, to the point, like, it had a hole in the armpit that went, like, all the way down to my side. And I was like, I'm going to sell this back together because it's a badass hoodie. And so I wore that for the longest time. And then we just got to talking more. and then he ended up sponsoring me just like a smaller deal just to be on like my suit and a low logo on the car and like we just kind of got to know each other and like I did some events with him and it's cool really cool that is cool martial sports is such a a cool company to rap these days like they're such a pillar in social media they have such an influence of like obviously they have their whole like gambling side and they have

like the sports book all that stuff yeah so many different things the podcast they have like I listen to his podcast all the time with like Josh, Josh Richards and stuff. And, like, obviously they have multiple big podcasts. And so, like, there's so many cool things that they do. Yeah. Taken over. They already have taken over. Yeah.

So who else do you have for, like, sponsors? Obviously, you have Monster as you're taking a step, which I want to add, you are really about that life. Like, I've always wondered. Yeah. Like, do these racers really drink Monster and, like, you know, their energy drinks? You show up and you go, yo, do you guys got any monsters? around here and I was like damn she actually drinks

I need packets to travel with like monster packets you like dump into waters but like um do they make that no and I mean there's nothing wrong with drinking monster I just figured you would literally have so much of it that you would not want to drink anymore of it no I love it

like I'm a caffeine addict I'll admit it like bad like I used to over here and so like it's it got to an healthy point where I drink three energy drinks like just like because I was like waking up at 5 a.m. and then driving like two and a half hours to go a simulator. I would drink like two to three energy drinks in the span of like two hours in the morning. Holy shit.

Oh. It was bad. Just a place and water for it. And then I started getting chest pain. I was like, I shouldn't do that anymore. I'm only 18. I shouldn't have this.

Yeah. Legit. And so I limit myself to two energy drinks a day. Yeah. I'll go a gas station by monsters all day. That's what we got. That's got to be weird because I'm sure you grew up having pallets of monster at your house. How old were you when you were probably drinking?

the monster. 15, 16? I thought you were going to say six. I thought you were going to say six too. I was probably about six and I started tugging the monsters. No, uh-uh, no, no. I remember when my dad was sponsored back by rock star, he would have like his rockster in the morning and then on our way to like middle school, I'd chug it real quick.

And so like, it was like, I think it was like a young age thing. Like I like, God tastes it. I'm like, I need more. So, like, I honestly, like, I'm just a caffeine addict and I can't, like, I get headache. Like, it's bad. I probably shouldn't drink as much caffeine as I do. I've actually gotten better from where I was.

And so that's all that matters. I'm improving. I'm self-aware. And so I just, I drink one in the morning. I drink one around three. And it's just like, okay, I'm going to have a little bit of chest, like, I, I don't, I don't anymore because, like, I was, I was taking pre-workout. And, like, I would take pre-workout in the morning.

That's a lot of caffeine with all the monster. Yeah. And that was back before I started drinking energy drinks. And so I would take a bunch, two scoops of pre-workout in the morning. like casually just to start my day and then I would drink like more later and I was like no like that's done I noticed once I started drinking the monster monster monsters um I always obviously before I sponsored my monster I would drink any energy drink and like my monster deal came along a couple years ago like legitly um but like I notice I would get chest pains from other energy drinks like in monster actually the monster doesn't do that how much are they paying you to say this right now it seems very yeah no no monsters those are the ticket. Miller's on the phone with them right now. Yep, yep, yep, just secured three minutes, the ad placement. That'd be 15 grand. I hate to say it because it sounds like so, I don't, that's why I don't talk about it. Because it sounds so scripted, but like, no joke. You are actually

about that life. Like, I've tested it out. Like, if, like, the least, like, I don't have chest pain anymore ever since I started doing the ultra ones. Like, and that's why I stick by them. And that's why you'll see me with a green ultra monster everywhere I go. Because, like, I get a bunch of work done I have energy, and I'm like, feel great. Well, I think that's cool because you're real about it. You're not just posing that you like it. No, like, actually do. I'll put it in my cup when I go race inside my truck.

Holy shit. You really are about it. I forgot. I did one time. I thought it was water, and it was so hot. I, like, chugged it, and it, like, shot out my nose. I wasn't expecting it. It was carbure.

Yeah, yeah, because it's carbonated. Carbidated. Yeah, you know, you got. Carborated monster. God damn it Carbarrated Yeah and it shot out my nose I wasn't expecting and I was like

I was so pumped when I had that And I was amped up for the ander the race I was pain And like I'm already nervous And like my adrenaline's going So I was like shaking But like I live for that like shaking moment Like yeah

Are you are you easily addicted To like stimulus of any sort Like caffeine you said Caffeine like Are you just like constantly trying to find that next high not like high not high no like constantly trying to find like that like adrenaline rush yeah he means yeah like I think in life I'd say like in life with like what I do and stuff like obviously yeah yeah like I like I like you'd have to be yeah like which is racing but

like I get that from racing but like day to day like caffeine's that for me like I just I love it like I live and free like I play in my day when I get go to the gas station if I'm out and about and like go get more like here this morning I'm like okay if I get a but this time I could probably leave and go to the gas station and go grab a monster before we do the podcast. Yeah, we... You sound like Ryan with Mountain Dews. I had to send...

Well, Ryan was picking up groceries, and I text them and I go, hey, make sure you pick up monsters for Haley and the crew because they all love them too, you know? But, uh, so who else you got as sponsors? So obviously Ford is one of my big ones and they're awesome. Like I get a drive around GT350 and it's like, it's great. That's cool.

And they support me in my racing. We're all in the same program. So I'm in their development program. and I'm one of their only development drivers. They really focus on me and focus on my improvement and what I'm trying to accomplish, and we're all on the same page. And obviously, I get to do really cool commercials.

Like, for the Lightning Ford that's coming out, the All-Electic F-150, I got to do the commercial for that. Really? I got to test out. You get to drive it? No, I didn't get a drive, so it was a... Just a... I got, well, not, like, drive it, like, on roads and stuff

because there's a certain limitations that you have. So, like, doing what we had to do for filming I was allowed to do, but not, like, have one yet. And so I got to drive the Mocky. the all electric um i remember seeing that yeah and so like it's cool i get tested all these vehicles i got to drive the bronco before it came out i got to see the bronco before it was released to the public i just signed a bunch of waivers and stuff it was sick and it's like so many cool things i get to do like that with this company and i feel like you get like a list in the beginning of the year

of like what cars you want for the year obviously there's like a limit on it you get to pick i get pick like you get the car the color interior color and it's like i'll be to you in two months you are so lucky that's cool it's awesome like it's awesome like it's great. That's why like, it's just, it's awesome. Like, Chase is going to be driving in Trevor soon and I'm going to be driving a Raptor soon again. That's so dope. Yeah. Do you think that they would like hook up your friends at all? Yeah. We're like really good friends now, right? Yes, we are good friends. Yeah, we'd love like a T500. We're like super good friends, right? Yeah, yeah. So like when you win a race, like obviously they want your sponsors want you to win.

Yeah. Anyone sponsor anyone wants that to happen. Do they, is it lateral or do you get paid more or compensated more when you win yeah like um honestly we don't have many sponsors who do bonus deals um there's a few i think my monster deal has some bonuses or at least someone we're working out for next year so like i've heard monsters good about that yeah mostly like that's really good with bonuses but also like that's a very motorcrossing that's a very super cross that's very bonus related um in naskar and stuff obviously the higher you get the more sponsors you get it gets like more bonuses how much is a truck like you're driving worth worth like the truck itself or how much it costs it goes into it no no no like what's the truck cost so much engineering i'm like you take his input on this one how much

do you think chase 150 i was going to say anywhere from like 120 1 30 but like probably 150 do you have to start over when you crash so that's the thing with racing for a team is like you pay to race that truck and then that you kind of negotiate and you kind of negotiate in your agreement whether you pay damages or not. So it's like most of the time you don't want to pay damages because most of the things that happen are out of your control. Like I've gotten wrecked this last four races. That's completely all my control, the situations that happened.

But like nothing I could do about it, but then I'd be stuck with that bill. So like obviously I don't pay for that. So like I just go out there and I race hard. And I try to get the best finish possible because I want to do good. That's nice because then if you do have to pay for it, you're like probably holding back. You'd be a different.

Yeah. I know a lot of people would be like that too. Yeah. Wow. I'd imagine there's probably like insurance on those, right? Mm-mm. Really? No.

Mm-mm. Yeah, there's no way they didn't. Well, I would insurance company be like, I want to insure. I want to sure you truck that 50% of you guys crash every single race. High policy. Insurance companies would go under. High risk. Yeah.

Bad question. So you got tons of sponsors, obviously then. And then I have smaller sponsors. Like, one of my favorites is heatways sunglasses. Like, they're sick. I love their company. It's like total retro, like that, like, 90s vibe. And I love, like, the neon colors, craftsmen, which is great for, like, tools.

Really cool. And, like, there's just, I have a trash company that sponsors me. They do the trucks and trash cans. They, like, the actual trash trucks and the trash cans. All the way down to the trash cans. All the way down to trash cans. Yeah. And so they're based off Charlotte.

It's, like, I know that I'm CEO of that company. And I'm good friends with him. So, like, it's just, I have a lot of cool people around me that are, like, I really try to only work with people that are truly on the same mind. mindset is me and that like we kind of are on the same page so hard to work with people that aren't yeah that genuinely want to help you versus just sponsor you right exactly you're you're you're being uh meticulous about like who you work with like you're not just going to work with them just because they're going to pay you exactly it has to make sense yeah which is very smart

the long term play yeah obviously the racing keeps you super busy but i i cannot believe that you guys are also doing the youtube thing as well as you are on top of all that because you guys are crushing on YouTube doing three videos a week and I mean I think we gotta get Chase in here because he's very much so a part of your YouTube channel Chase All right Chase you hop on I'm gonna go take you All right we'll take a little break here I guess

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We're back after a little potty break, Ben took. Sorry. Anyways, so you guys are super busy with racing. what what made you think that you wanted to add they got some torn behind them what made you think you wanted to add YouTube on top of it because YouTube is already in itself a full-time job it's two full-time jobs two full-time jobs and then you have merchandise exactly which usually someone else runs and so like and you're doing that all yourself as well it's pretty much three full-time jobs like that we have to balance and so it's tough because like we have to be involved in all three of those jobs and so

I would say when it comes down to, like, wanting to do YouTube, he was obviously obsessed with YouTube from a young age, like watched a bunch of the big name influencers, and, like, truly just loved YouTube, which is, like, most kids. And so he actually did some of his own vlogs, and, like, it was tough for him. Dude, I vlogged every day. And his stuff was quality stuff. Yeah.

But, like, it just is so tough, dude. It's tough to, like, get picked up. Just never got picked up. I would say, like, I did every day for maybe, couple months and then I went to like every other day and then I realized

I still wasn't getting more than like three views God damn You got a couple hundred It's just Oh that is so tough It's literally like Like for fucking

99% of the people It was like all right It was like One video got like 2,700 And it was like We went to like a haunted house On my channel

and that was like my first video they got in the 2000s I was like I made it Isn't that funny how like you're When you hit a thousand views you're like This is insane That's so many people It's just like the milestones obviously keep moving But so do we

They never stop You're yeah I was just gonna say We didn't mention this is Chase You're Haley's boyfriend And you guys run the YouTube channel together Boyfriend Business and also like race You're kind of part of the race

Like are you part of that? Yeah Yeah, you're very much so in your mingled in your guys' lives. And it's cool. Like, I could never date someone who isn't aware of racing and been involved in racing because it's so hard explaining people racing and understanding what I'm going through. It's like he obviously understands when I was there. Because Chase used to race too.

Yeah, he's a lot. Yeah. A great racer. And, like, especially him being good at racing, it helps me because I have his outside input as a racer. So I feel like it helps me personally. obviously we get in our arguments like at the beginning of the season of him trying to tell me like what to do and stuff which like I it used to grind my years there's so many clips I wish I could make a montage at the end of the years that you just hear me behind the camera she like videoing and I just

beep beep beep beep I'll get like off whatever stand I'm sitting on like standing because I find like anywhere to stand at a racetrack I'll climb fences like Like, whatever I got to do to make, get the shot. To get the shot. You're a hustler, man. Right. So, like, and sometimes you just see me, like, on camera. Like, I'm, like, clipping it.

And you just see me, I get down. I'm like, I'm done. I'm done. I'm like, beginning of the season. I'm like, I told him not to do that. Oh, yeah. Like, the amount of lecture. And not even lectures, like, arguments that we got in where, like, he's like,

I told you not to do that. Like, this is what you didn't. You'll show me the video. I'm like, you don't understand. Like, it's so much harder than you think. I don't think I have my phone on me. I used to, at every race, take notes of, like, what lap... Things I did wrong and what lap.

What lap she did, what lap and what she did wrong, and then we'd, like, sit back and look at those notes and then try to find it in the film. Well, what was funny was she got so, like, all you do is tell me what I did wrong. So then I would go, like, put in there, like, just, like, random laps. And you're alive to me?

Like, good restart, like, but here's what you really need to improve. I didn't know that. Oh, Chase. Because it was always, like, tell me what the negatives are. He's like, never telling me what the positives are. Well, it's nice that you care. Because, I mean, from what I see, you guys work really as a team. And you guys are a match made in heaven, if you ask me.

I mean, it's nice to see. I thought it was more me and then, but I guess you can see it this way, too. I think we're pretty good, too, Chase. Yeah, I think you guys make it work. For sure. You guys have matching tattoos? Yeah. Right here.

What is it? Little flames. It's like your twin flame. Oh, that's fire. Yeah. That's fire. Did you do that because of the flames hoodie that we gave you? Totally.

Yeah. Like, did it happen before that. You see, I was actually cold before I was going to come in here and do the podcast. And the only hoodie I have left that's clean is that is that one in my bag. Yeah. And I was like, man,

I would look really corny on a C-Boid. Oh, bro. That'd be dope. That'd be cool. We actually did appreciate that because the first, so to add context to the, the listener the first time they came out and we did our video whatever before we sent you guys home we were like hey here's some merch and and normally when we do that with other

YouTubers they they I mean some of them wear it some don't yeah but you guys actually rep that shit so we appreciate that and you guys wear it a lot what's going on oh dude I just see Haley's yeah I was like what the fuck's been doing it I was like the rave in the other room yeah you look over and I'm just like Let's bring it back to the YouTube, though. So you guys decided, whose idea was it to, like, start the YouTube channel? I think it was mine. Yeah.

I was like, you know, she had had a social media. It's a big opportunity. I was on my dad's YouTube channel before. It was a family channel. And, like, I had many videos. We didn't do a lot of videos because he figured motors every single day, racing cars is not. And so it's hard to make daily content with that. And so I was on occasionally, not a ton.

And I didn't really invest a lot of times. time into it because it wasn't like necessarily my channel well makes sense to have your own and i had fired up my own vlogs i was posting them as unlisted and sending him to my friends like two to three weeks before we were going to produce our vlogs um and i was doing him posting as an list i did for like three weeks straight to get people's feedback because when i came and did it here i wanted it to be done right yeah so like i just kept doing that like trying to get a little bit better and better at doing it but like YouTube was always my thing like I just love YouTube you do a really good job at it too I need to appreciate it man where did where

did your knowledge come from because you you guys started YouTubeing 10 months ago and you're at what 350,000 subscribers right now like that's 351 you guys had a serious blow up like you're you know if you would have asked if you would have asked Chase two weeks ago he's like our channel's dead like it's done yeah but like we had two 10 out of 10 things you know we come into this week and it's like one out of 10 one out 10 he's like dude we're back up like we made it well everyone watching that isn't a YouTuber right now it's like no idea what that means when you post just add some context when you post a youtube video it will rank it uh within uh your last 10 videos as to how it's doing relative to those so if you

have a 10 out of 10 video that means that is doing obviously the worst versus a one out of 10 means it's doing really well. Yeah. So, and it really does impact people's mood. Definitely, and it like affects my day, every day.

When you see it. I can't let that happen, man. Dude, please. I wanted to add, when Haley was talking about how racing was like her number one

and YouTube was her second, being that I don't have racing anymore, YouTube is my one. You take that role, yeah. So like, if it's going good, I'm in a good mood. You feel like you're doing a good job.

Yeah. And like it's never, it's not like, you go you talk about people go to a nine and five job and go home and just can disconnect and get on their phones and be done with life you don't like you got to think of what's next how can we go bigger how can we go better and i think one of the things that really frustrates me the most is i've like always wanted to be if there's a problem how can we fix it or what can i do to make it better and and with youtube i don't feel like you have that option like sometimes like you you produce your best quality of what you thought was the best with a great idea and a great thumbnail and a great title and you don't get results from it. It just doesn't get pushed. YouTube doesn't push it. And you're like, I can't fix it.

So it's even that much more frustrating to me is the fact of like, well, how do I know that's not going to happen for the next 10 videos in a row, you know? But think back to the days when you were getting 100 views and you were stoned that 100 people watched it. And now you're upset that only 200,000. You're upset that one video might be 10,000 views less than the other That could put it into like the fifth position Yeah, but here's the difference though is back then YouTube was fun It's still fun, but it's you're lying on it yeah It's a livelihood now it's it's like how we're able to come here

Man when you guys first came here which we didn't know at the time But like you were you were really risking it all like you were you try to flake I didn't try to make us look extra bad on my end I just thought you guys were like really bawling and like I didn't know if we had a whole lot to offer as I said earlier but but you were out it was in the process of you kind of trying to do your own thing like you were trying to pave your own way I mean both of you yeah so I I pretty much moved out my parents house in California excited to be here for racing like I are not here North Carolina I forgot at the sea boys heck you guys I had to be in the same Se boys racing so like no I had to be in Charlotte North Carolina for racing and that's where I had to be starting the season coming up I had to go a simulator like I had so much to do out here that I couldn't be flying five hours back and forth every single time I needed to sit in my truck to go get fitted and so we pretty much like went out on a limb and I moved out and I wanted to do it all like I wanted it to be on my I don't want to be like oh mom and dad like I need money to go do this so like because everyone thinks that your daddy's money I everyone thinks that your daddy's money I everyone thinks that your daddy's money I everyone thinks that you're some daddy's money dude people will be like your dad owns monster that's why i'm like dude my dad own monster i would not be doing this i would not be like working ourselves to death yeah because you guys work so hard and we just so many hours get put into it because it's once again doing three jobs with two people so it's like trying to balance that with us for a while when we were we were

doing two videos so we were not having any schedule and we came up here we had just about hey hana K and we came up here and I looked at you guys as whiteboard and I sat down that one night and we talked for like hours about YouTube yeah yeah and you were talking about like schedule and then I would hear you talking to Ben about oh this will go in this video this will go on Thursday's video I was like damn like they got their shit together yeah it's more thought out than what people think from the outside and I was like we really I left here and I was like we really need to get on like a schedule next day he bought a whiteboard yeah like next day bought a whiteboard So, like, you guys were Monday and Thursday.

I was like, look, I don't want to be on their schedule. Like, I don't want to feel like, I don't want them to feel as if we had copied. I wouldn't have been mad at all. So we went, like, Sunday and Wednesday. And we were, like, on that for a while. And I was, we were doing that. And I was like, hey, I think we could ramp it up to three because there's times when you get, like, in two videos. And you could do get some lax days.

And I was like, I think we could go three. One more video a week. is a lot. Yeah. It's a lot. Dude, two videos is a grind. Because it takes it from four days of Raleigh figure, like a day for filming, a day for editing. It takes it from four days to six days.

And that's not including me racing and us having to travel and do other things. So we did that for so long. And I was up so many nights, late nights, like early mornings, like just, I felt like I was like I was running myself into the, yeah, to the ground, like, to the point where I was, like, I don't know how much longer I can physically do that. It was, like, painful. And, like, I wish at times that, like, I'm glad I never did. But there was so many times when I, like, sat down on a fresh timeline, I looked at it.

And I was like, I think I could just slam this video together and it'd be all right and just be good enough. But, like, I would never let myself get to it because I'm a perfectionist. And so, like, I just, like, no matter what, no matter how long it took, no matter how many hours, I was just, going to keep going and then it got to a point when like i needed somebody else and that's when we brought miller on a month ago and i've noticed it's been a lot easier uh over the last month month and a half or so and i feel like you've been happier too that's good that's important having more free headspace to yeah so much less stress and it shows and and you know work put more effort into miller left for one week for a car rally he texts me like the night before he's like

yo this guy wants to pay a ton of money you go on this car rally it's like all right man like you know you love that type of stuff i'm all for seeing people succeed and do what they love like he loves cars so so go on the car rally he's like you sure he's like yeah of course like if you can like i can handle it for a week i did it for months yeah a week was brutal oh my gosh so let's not let that happen again that's funny i kind of want to go back to like the the beginning stage of like truly taking a risk and like starting from basically nothing you know starting fresh slate and now after 10 months 350,000 you know four million views last month uh like seriously from rags to riches oh like that's an insane you may just feel like we're balling yeah no well

that's like an insane glow from where we came from and like It was just, honestly, it was a risk going out on a limb and living in North Carolina and, like, us doing this all together. You sleeping in a car last time we were here. Yeah. Yeah. But no one knows that. Yeah. Like, nobody knows that.

I'm daddy's money. Like, I, when I moved out, like, I didn't take a dollar in my parents' money. Like, at, I did not a dollar. Like, we did this all on our own. Mm-hmm. I remember, so you couldn't cancel the flights because it was too late when we were like, yo, I don't know if there's, anything for you to do you're like i guess we'll just come out and try to film something if you want to still collab that's down that's we're like well if you're coming out we're gonna do something

we're gonna make something work and it ended up being a great video and we had a lot of fun hanging out um but like you literally financially couldn't not use that you had to had to yeah yeah we were well what what we had done was when you guys had said that our first thought was hey let's figure out if there's any other YouTubers that we can do or if there's anything that we could do like because that you couldn't cancel it so you might as well take it and try to do something while you're out here to make time worth it but and you guys slept in your car yeah you didn't I was like I felt so bad when I heard I'm like we have extra rooms and could have slept here but you're not going to be like you didn't know us so yeah you didn't know us and I'm sure you

I didn't want to intrude. You were trying to be respectful. Getting to know you guys has been, I mean, it's been a pleasure. It's been fun just to, and especially see your glow up. I mean, like I said, in 10 months' time, you've really turned around. Like, you guys are doing very well. Like, it worked. Yeah, your risk, everything paid off.

From, like, how are we going to eat tonight to, like, how are we going to decorate the new house? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's amazing. We just bought a house, like, literally of going out on a limb and, like, not You guys are the first to know that on the podcast. No one else knows who's bought a house. Yeah.

Congratulations. Thank you. Appreciate it. When you're not racing or making a YouTube video. There's not. I know you not because I know what you guys are scheduled. But if, let's say you had a day off, what would you want to do with that day off? Not do anything.

That's what most of YouTubers say. I got to do that and I was so excited. I think like all the laundry is done. We were talking about it. Like we don't really have a normal relationship. No. Like, we don't, we don't, we don't do date nights, we don't do anything like that. I can't even tell you time that we, like, both got dressed up and went to dinner.

I think our life is so consumed right now by, like, we got to make something of why we got it. It's true. Make hay well the sun shines. Yeah, so, sure. I have no clue that that means, yeah, it's not legit. There's one piece of advice. Like, don't feel like you have to post to stay on the schedule to get, and then end up being burnt out. see like i've kind of had to for a while though like we had to do that too but yeah you do but

like if you look back at it it's like if you skip a video three months ago six months ago two years ago like what does it matter that much yeah i guess our stance is like we we want like the videos to live on forever like you know video can keep being viewed because it's just if it's a good video and it's not like something that has to be is very like like time relevant. See, well, that was going to say, see, like, I was going to say that is our videos can't. A lot of ours can't. They can't live on forever?

No, because a lot of ours have to do with racing. The races that have already happened. True. And if the race happens, then if I don't post a video within the two days, it's first of all it's irrelevant. Everybody's going on to a new week. Nobody cares. So, like, I got to get the video out.

But at the same time, the next time a race happens, that video, that is irrelevant. Like, you can literally watch a views just stop. there yeah and i mean like we were saying it's all relevant to each person like people make things work that would never work for us today is the first day that i'll miss a day in six months yeah so i don't think it's that big of a deal good yeah yeah no that's good not not good but just like it's really not that big of a deal yeah i feel like you kind of got like when i watch your videos it's like very much so like a crew almost like ours like you have obviously haley you and then Miller now and then Mo as well.

Let's go, Mo. It's kind of like the same situation. And then our dog. Which hopefully Rambo is okay because he just got stung by a bee or something. God, that dog is just so prone. I can't believe he's four pounds. That's what I'm most impressed about. That's something living can be four pounds.

We do have a crew. And I think that's why we try to. I think you need that nowadays in YouTube. Like you bounce off each other. It's no more. just talking to the camera. You need people to bounce off with. Everybody has a group dynamic.

Every big YouTuber is kind of like, it's crew of people, David Dobrick obviously now. Steve even in his own videos has characters. I don't think you guys deal with this as much as we do. I was literally talking about a tour last night. Is that like when I'm editing, there's certain things that I want her to say to like,

oh, I know this would be a good lead to this. Or I remember this happening earlier and I know I'm going to take it and put it over here. so can you like say something so like there's a lot of times where i'll ask her to say like select choice words uh like just to make the transition smoother where you guys don't really have to deal with it because yours literally is sea boys it's it's the crew but ours is haley degan so no matter what she has to lead it yeah no matter what the pit biking anything has to be with her face whether through her reacting to it whether like i can go ride like we did yesterday but i literally has to be

mainly her and like you can throw away and like the channel is primarily her she has to do the intro she has to do the outro she has to do the transition she has to be the one to say most of the stuff so there's times when I like want a certain piece I'm be like hey just say this like yeah because like you know you know you kind of help you know when you're literally good on camera hey that I will say you know when you're filming you're literally editing at the same time in your head yeah no like at least I feel like I do that like oh how it is for me too and so like you know kind of what you need

you know and when you don't have that mindset of like that filming and editing mindset like I can't be mad when she doesn't know to say the exact word that I want her to say even though I still get mad I think that was a hard part in our relationship like to get over like I do not know what you want me to say but you expect me to say it

like tell me what you want me to say and then I'm like we got a lot better about like our communication like hey just tell me exactly what you want me to say I'll put in my own way It's funny because our arguments are not like normal relationship. Normal relationship arguments are like, who's that boy in your DMs? Yeah. And it's like, who's this?

Who's that? You know, what's this? What's that? Why are you not answering my text? It's like, dude, it's something about YouTube analytics. She's like, why are you so pressed? Who cares? Like, it's okay.

We need to go phone. You don't understand. Like, that's funny. Well, shit, guys. That was, that might have been our best podcast yet, I think. That honestly was. Best guest. podcast you are the number one guest you are we have ever had yeah thank you for doing this no problem

we had a lot of fun also filming with you guys we're going to go film another bit now right after this we're going to erx so that's going to be a blast we got cletus uh the lay mullets race that's come thank you again for inviting us to be your co-driver listen listen on that when we were deciding this is this is like legit i don't know if how you guys take the way i say this but like When we were deciding the partner who he wanted, first option was because they were in the midst of DMing was T-Pain, but he didn't want to do it. No.

T-Pain DM'd you? No, we were DMing about my sake. But how that came up, I was like, hey, look, these guys, so like I never, we had not even 100K, you guys had just hit a mill. I was like, these guys took a shot on us. helped us. I feel like going to Cletus and like doing that. Like they don't get a chance to go meet a lot of people. They have a great platform. Like I feel like this could be like a give back for them taking a shot on us when we were like at 80K. We really appreciate it. Thanks guys. Get you guys

out of Minnesota. You guys you guys are awesome though. So keep killing it and uh let's go have some fun at the track. We got to we're going to the track to figure out who the co-driver is going to be So it's going to be really good. I have no idea who is going to be. I honestly hope it's going to be Ken. I hope it's going to be Ken wins. I think that'd be so funny. That would be funny.

The seats wouldn't line up. He's low-key, like, a wheelman. Like, I feel like he low-key is. I think so. Like, I see the way he, like, throttles up in the Tesla and, like, is this electric. Is this electric? Ken doesn't fuck it if it's, or, Ken doesn't.

Ken doesn't fuck with it if it's not. Electric. I didn't have that. See you guys. See you guys. That was the best ending.