Life Wide Open with CboysTV - The Story of CboysTV

Episode Date: July 12, 2021

Welcome to Life Wide Open with CboysTV. In today's podcast we talk about the story of CboysTV, how we all met, and a couple stand out times in our journey.  Follow us on Instagram @cboystv and @lifewideopenpodcast To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/LifeWideOpenYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/LifeWideOpenWithCboysTV If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be amazing! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: https://bit.ly/LifeWideOpenWithCboysTV You can also check out our main YouTube channel CboysTV: https://www.youtube.com/c/CboysTV For merch check out: https://cboystv.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The issue was there's like so much, well, we're hung up on the name for the longest time, and I think we got it locked down, Life Wide Open podcast. It was like easily the most requested name or the most recommended name. I love how you, you're like, I think we have it locked down. Well, that's the thing. It's locked down. Is it? Yeah.

I mean, we're on the Life Wide Open podcast YouTube channel right now. So it's official. Unless the name below this video is something else. I already made it, man. It's a done deal. All right, what's done is done. Yeah, it made the most sense. For all you guys over here, obviously you're all new because this is our first podcast.

If you guys want to hit the subscribe button, I don't know if you're watching on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, and then on YouTube, drop a like, drop a comment, and then hit the subscribe button. We're going to be giving away $500 to two of you, randomly selecting you guys out of the comment section. So, yeah, I mean, if you want the opportunity to make a little bit of money, all those three things. Yeah, I got the deal. said we've been talking about doing a podcast for like three years two years a while like before podcasts were popping yeah yeah and we just never did we were gonna do it on patreon weren't we yeah we got like some some shitty ass mics because that's i mean literally all we could afford and then we

never even fucking use them that we still got them sitting in some box yeah in the back but uh i mean the whole idea of this podcast was to show you guys you know more of a real version of ourselves because when you watch the YouTube videos it is it is all real but it's like so cut up fast and fabricated like the highlight real exactly it's a high highlight real we don't get the time in that to really tell you guys uh and show you guys how who we really are and and uh what our lives are really like yeah i mean well like on the YouTube videos you can't just basically state your opinion and then ramble on about yeah because it'd get old yeah people don't click on our YouTube videos to watch that.

They basically just watch them. I would assume for entertainment. Yeah. No, absolutely. I mean, that's what surprises me that it did take us this long to do that because I feel like once we get into this is going to be like really refreshing. Right. Well, I mean, we had to get the whole setup.

You know, we wanted to do it right. We got this custom made table from Ants Chop Shop. Right. Shout out. Yeah, shout out Anthony. This whole set, you guys. It turned out so good. It turned out so good.

It's not going to be that much of a drawback, but. ceilings ceiling's right there and Ben's not tall I'm really not tall but actually it gets the job done it's five nine and a half not

everyone thinks Ben's not tall but like I just like leading into it it's pretty short half the time I'm standing next to Ken and Ken's what six four so I'm like going to start Jamie back there yeah Jamie I mean yeah but I mean on here we're going to be

you know obviously showing our life's behind YouTube telling you guys a lot of stories funny stories that happen off camera And then also, you know, doing business advice, kind of talking YouTube talk. For a lot of you guys that are interested in learning about YouTube, I think we'll be able to give some advice and help you learn how to navigate it. And then just other stuff going on in the media. Yeah.

We all are pretty opinionated, especially me and CJ. Definitely. I don't know if it's good or not. But we like to talk. And I figured this is probably going to be the best way to, like, share our thoughts in, like, a long full. piece of content so I think like definitely it will be the four of us it could be kennel be in here but then we'll have some guests too and uh I just have I just really I'm sorry I'm gonna pump your tires Ben Ben Ben is a phenomenal interviewer I don't know he just sit yeah it's called the

bent review you guys and he just sits down and he like ask someone questions we're just out to eat and he's asking them questions and next thing you know that that conversation lasts at a half an hour and it's just good you ask really good questions random people too yeah and you dig up more questions is they answer your questions so like i'm pretty excited to have some guests on don't know who it's going to be no one yeah i mean yeah well well that's the issue is like probably probably have jake on we're not from la we don't have we don't have a plethora of creators or like influencers or any any people like that at our disposal like we have each other we have each other so basically this is going to just be camaraderie and us fucking around yeah pretty much let's talk about what's kind of going on

around here this weekend. It's basically the pinnacle of time to be in Cormorant area. I mean, otherwise, I don't know if I could say that ever, for at least tourists. Like, it's popping in town today. Yeah, basically, so where we're from, it's a gas station, bar, and liquor store. Like, three people live in town. Actually, it's like three farmhouses, so Cormorant's literally a village. Like, it's not, I don't even know if it has a zip code, honestly. It doesn't know.

Well, that's like the C and C-Boys TV. So C is for Cormorant. We'll get into kind of how we got that name, like, C-boys later. But to be completely honest with you, it really sucks Dick living here for like nine months out of the year. Yeah. But for the other three months, it's lakes country. So there's a ton of lakes and there's people from all over the cities that have lake cabins on these lakes. So they come out during the weekends in the summer.

to, you know, go out on the lake, have a good time, party. It kind of turns into, like, a party area around here in the summer. And especially over the 4th of July week, weekend. So it's fun. Like, this is, like, the best time to be here because, like, we love, I mean, it's probably not any secret, but we do love to party. So, yeah, we get distracted this time of year. I mean, it's hard not to, though.

We live out here. So it's like when you live at, like, the vacation town, you know, When all the people come to town, they're here to have a good time. They're here to, like, relax, party, drink. And, like, that's the issue is, like, turning that switch on and off because, you know, we still got a business room. We still got videos to make. This is, like, a seven day a week job. I mean, no matter what, whether you work a full 14-hour day or you work just even two hours, every day, you do have to work.

It's like you're on call. Moral of the story is being at Fourth of July is on a Sunday. this year going on a bender the boys are going on like a four-day bender started last night it's gonna go until probably i think i think mike still still kind of riding it and it if i'm not mistaken i saw him pour a twisted tea into his cup this morning but do you want to show the camera mike fuck twisted tea just a quick PSA water over here water over here i want to be on my a game we got three cameras rolling here feels kind of high production as i feel like we're like in the loft of our garage all set up by us three can't or three uh lights right as shit i know for a fact

we're going to get better as we go you go back and look at our first youtube videos obviously we've gotten significantly better since then so just stick stick with us on here it's going to be a good time i think i think i think we should really get into you know what's something good we was like we talked about talking about the like kind of the origin or yeah that'd be good i think original story of how we, I would say, like, how did we all meet? And then, you're, like, CJ is the one who had the idea to start the channel. And it's, in my opinion, it's a very important move in all of our lives. So, so going back to, you know, around Cormorant, Minnesota, where we live,

there is really no one here for, I mean, nine months out of the year. It's very secluded. There's not a lot of kids in the area. So that's kind of how we all came to be friends. You know, we just kind of ran into each other. Me and CJ and friends. Yeah, we're just cousins. We're cousins, actually.

And also, for the record, the nine months out of the year does suck because of like the weather. It's so cool. But it's amazing because no one is. We capitalize on it. I think the best way to put it is we are a product of our environment. The reason that we do most of the stuff that we do is because of the area that we grew up in. And, like, going back to, I don't, dude, I was probably what, eight, seven, and you were nine

and you like yeah so cj's parents bought a cabin right next to my parents cabin on the lake and uh that was kind of when we became like best friends yeah yeah because it was just me and cj out at the lake like right i met you guys from snowmobiling can i tell a little funny story about the first time i met mike oh god so uh the first time i met mike i hang out with him pretty cool guy he was like talking we were talking car that is super u rx and uh i don't know we exchanged numbers i'm i'm at work the next next day or monday and he texts me and goes

hey dude we should hang out again smiley face does a smile like this not the emoji a smiley face and back then if you're you just don't send smiley face the guys back then so i'm kind of like why is he sending me smiley face in cj's rule book you don't and i mean like either way i get that back then it was a big no no you can get away with it now i just send smiley faces because so i send something super happy yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do it again. Yeah, that was fun. It was nice, yeah, we should hang this weekend.

He was, yeah, definitely, smiley face. I'm like, this dude, this dude's gay. This dude's hitting on me. And I actually thought Mike was gay the very first time I met him, but he's not. That's what Ryan said too, kind of. I thought that, too. I thought that, too. I thought that, but I think that, too.

She was like, yeah, Ryan and I kind of thought you were, like, possibly gay. And I was like, well, I'm not. I can confirm. Mike is not gay. Ryan and Ken, they were, like best buds they were the jet ski boys they would buzz around on their jet skis they had jet skis ben and i were always hanging out we'd be like man these guys are like lucky ducks like we'd basically try to con them into like letting us ride their jet ski for time of time oh so yeah yeah those two were on

like the other side of the lake me and cj we're on this side and then one day we were over at our friends and ken and ryan pull up on their jet skis and we were like man big dicks are in town yeah ken's wearing it's like big old oakley's the oil railroad I had the gascats, man. When these guys showed up, dude, you better make sure your girls are not around. Right? Hungry now. Now?

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I thought you guys, not saying that you're not normal now, but I thought you guys were pretty normal, right? I thought you were pretty cool, dude, and then. I thought you were badass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you get to pull up. I think CJ goes, dude, Ryan, can I ride your jet ski? And Ryan's like, you know, a normal guy.

He goes, yeah, sure, of course, here you go. Ken's sitting there. I was like, hey, should I say his name? No. I don't know. His real name? That's the name of this podcast. We reveal Ken's name on the first podcast.

Anyway, Ken's not his real name. So I call him by his real name, his government given name. I go, hey, Ken, can I ride you Detsky? He goes, dude, this is like the same shit you would do. It's nice to know you haven't changed one bit, but he goes, no. Yeah, he wouldn't let you ride. I was like, why? And I don't even think you gave me a reason.

So anyways, we kind of ran into them. We hit it off. And then we ran into Jake at a sandpit. He was on his cow-a-socky. Well, we're friends with Cody, Jake's cousin first. Cody, who hangs out here and there, homie, bro. He was like the original guy that we used to hang out with the original Sherbrook, and we always heard rumors about how crazy his cousin was.

People would just be like, yeah, he's, and Cody's crazy, you should see his cousin, that guy's a nut job. Dude, I was hearing this for like, I was hearing this for like two years before I ever met Jake. Wow, I didn't realize you guys hung on with Cody for that. Yeah. I didn't realize you guys hung on with Cody for that long ago. I remember the first time I met Jake, though,

he was at the sandpit riding in his cowie, which was in the older videos. He had no shoes on and he was wearing like an oversized white tea. Everything was just baggy. And I was just like, what the fuck is this? What is this kid? You know? And he was just funny.

He was just funny as shit. And we were just eating. pizza and we all hit it off and then oh my god dude uh man i'll never forget the first time i met justin this dude oh love the dude to death but man we call him a virgin for a reason he's standing at the end of your dock we're going on the boat to pick him up you guys are like oh our buddy justin from church is coming with i remember this Justin's standing there with this board he bought at the yard sale church auction the church auction the church auction It was called a skurf board

And Justin Dude From the moment I met him I was like This might be the nicest guy Yeah very nice guy But it was We had a blast

We had a blast It was funny Such a virgin It was pretty Love the guy to death It was par for the course Did he scarf? Yeah

He scurfed I bet he still has that I bet he still has that But then at that point Let's see Was the gang altogether Jake was pretty flaky Yeah but it's like

The six Eventually Oh and then when Justin's parents would let him hang out with us there you go yeah then you had trouble for vaping we uh oh that's true we lost them for a long time that i met him yeah he got caught with a vape yeah he got caught with a vape justin was actually he was like the nerdy bad boy he was he was he still is i mean i know everyone had subs in high school but justin had subs that we now have in the boat that rattled his he had like a bmw like 325 and it it literally rattled it to pieces yeah and i'm like i'm here for it man

I thought it was dope. I'd never experienced subboopers in my life. I was like, this dude, he's sucking on this vape. His windows are all coated, and he's got the sub to... I'm riding past, you couldn't breathe. Yeah. Oh, man. We'll get Justin on a pod soon, for sure.

That's kind of how the gang all formed. And from there, we were just constantly, just tomfoolery, man. Like, we were up to no good, just fucking around constantly. We would ride dirt bikes. um just around like there's nowhere to ride bikes like if you see in our videos like we ride ditches allegedly highways allegedly and um yeah there's like no trails or like tracks or anything like that's ride so we would just basically just dick around all day we'd go from like riding dirt bikes in the most random places to like you know that's how we got pretty good at wheelies back then because

we just like really had nowhere else to go or like anything else to do and we were just like fuck around on cogo sticks scooters bikes yeah everything we do in the videos Like, it's the same stuff we've been doing for 12 years at this point. We've just leveled up. We've just leveled up, yeah. And, like, obviously got into the point where, you know, we can afford to buy cooler toys and, you know, do cooler things. But, you know, down to the roots of it, like, we haven't changed at all. Also, we have been fucking with people since we were, like, 10 years old.

Like, me and CJ used to do this thing. It was called, people call it, like, BFC trolling. Yeah. best friend cousin trolling and like we just got this reputation around the community like you can't trust these guys well yeah in a bad way like they don't call you the troll masters for nothing like that's what i refer to you if someone's like yeah they're cj and ben were messing me with i was like yeah they're the troll masters talk about when you picked up the camera like because we've been doing this stuff forever but when you started picking up a camera right yeah i mean it's it's a very it's a pretty

intricate story um but i had suffered a really really bad concussion It was right after I graduated high school, and it just kind of changed me. I mean, for a long time, I was, like, when you, if you have, like, a significant concussion, it changes the way you act, your mood, like, depression is very common, anxiety. And, like, I was experiencing all those things along with, like, I was constantly dizzy. If I'd look at stuff, it would be, like, moving. And if I'd close my eyes, I would feel like I was moving. and that went on for i mean probably a year and a half uh and i went to college and i just i was

did not enjoy at all like the only friend i had was ryan didn't make any friends i was in this shitty-ass dorm i hated it hated it worst time my life easily the worst time my life like tenfold uh it was just a struggle and uh during that you know i feel like i was straight up at rock bottom uh you start like wondering kind of you know what what is it that would really make me happy or like what would uh like what is it that i really want in life and you kind of start realizing like the things that matter and uh for me it was just like i i'd always wanted to be like a YouTuber um so i had that in the back of my mind and i ended up dropping out of college and i went through like the whole summer and i ended up going to this whole like rehabilitation program

where I had to like learn how to do my eyes and stuff again like basically it's just long thing and uh during that I didn't have a job wasn't in school I would just sit around all day sometimes hanging out with these guys I kind of flake from you guys for a while I would say too yeah um but uh yeah it's just it was terrible like I I I remember thinking like there's no way that I will continue to live my life this way like like I can't go the whole life acting this way not acting this way but like feeling this way like there's no way I'll do the whole thing that's kind of why I was like there's no point in me going to college like um and what do you what do you mean by that like I honestly was like if if I would have if I still was like feeling that way to this day I definitely wouldn't

be here like there's no way I was going to like keep riding that um so that's that's why I was like like I'm just going to do the things I want to do and I feel like a lot of people that want to start YouTube like they're scared to or just anything in general you're scared about what people are going to think but like I felt like I didn't have anything to lose like everyone already thought I was kind of weird now

and whatever um so I was like okay so I bought this camera and literally spent all my money like all of it I'd like 600 maybe I had like a little bit money left I'd probably like 650 but I spent like 600 on this camera and just kind of started learning how to like film how to like edit like just munking around from time to time mike already was pretty good with cameras i was like asking i'm like what do you think about

this one what do you think you know and and and we started basically just filming the things that we were doing and i found a lot of joy from that like it really helped me yeah i i had like a purpose because like back then i really wasn't supposed to be riding dirt bikes or doing other stuff and and and And also to add to it, I, like, I was getting better as, like, this, over this time because I was doing this therapy program, all that. And, yeah, I think that, like, picking up the camera, like, gave me a thing to do and, like, something to work towards, which, like, it just, it helped me a ton. As soon as CJ had that camera, his joy was there, and then we were, like, wow, CJ's rolling, like, let's be crazy. Yeah, it was like almost everyone kind of turned into their character. Everyone was always really good on camera from the start, I will say.

Try to be. Dude, I remember when a huge part for me, when you said, we got a vlog. This is at the time when, like, daily blogging is huge. Yeah, Mike was making, like, little edits. Yeah, I was like, I can do cinematic stuff and all that, and I'd been doing that for a hobby or whatever. But, yeah, I was like, I don't know, dude, talking to the camera. I don't like how I sound like. on camera, dude, now it's, you don't even think about it.

I added myself, like, I'm a different person or whatever, but. Yeah, but I, I know it wasn't common. No, and the reason I really knew about vlogging was because literally I didn't have anything else I'd do, I'd just sit at home in my room all day, and I'd watch YouTubers, and like, that's, and I'd done that for a long time, but, like, that's when vlogging, like, bringing the camera out and, like, kind of making almost, like, a TV show out of your life became very popular, and, uh, yeah. I mean, that, and I was like, we are a TV show.

We used to talk about it all the time, like, man, if we could get MTV in here, like, we would be a great TV show. Without that insight, I'm not saying we wouldn't have succeeded, but, like, that was so important. I remember back then, actually, so if you go on MTV's website, I don't know if they still have it, but, like, they have at the bottom, like, uh, like you can, they have, like, roles for shows that you can, like, apply to be in. I used to try that all time, or I'd, like, submit emails, like, me and my friends, we're so cool and like we should have you know but i obviously it never heard anything back so

basically just made our own show and that's what he did you just cool thing now is that youtube is way bigger way bigger it's like if they if someone was to come and say we want to put you on mtv or whatever mtv is practically dying but dude what would you rather have now like a million subscribers on youtube or uh your own show or be like a part of a show on m tv yeah that's going to last like one season if you're lucky maybe well i mean even if it lasts yeah even if it lasted three like still youtube youtube is endless possibilities yeah yeah endless branding like there's so much you can do with this dude i remember back when we were it was probably right around the time that um

you were going through the everything with the concussion symptoms dude that was like fuck man that was hard for me to watch too because like i you know like we were truly best friends and like you know i would i'd be like yo you want to hang out and you'd be like nah like it was like it was because i couldn't do a lot of the same shit that you guys are doing i didn't fully understand if i went if i went on it like you guys would maybe go on the boat i couldn't go on the boat like i'm already nauseous get me on a boat i'm really like i would like seriously fuck me up i have to go lay down like lay on the floor and try to like calm it down um but yeah i just couldn't do any of that shit now it's like

i think a lot of people know you know how serious concussions back then they didn't back They didn't. Yeah, it was just like you're just being a pussy. Yeah, and that's, we were young, too. Yeah, and, like, I felt like I was being a pussy, too, at the time, which was, like, one of the harder things because I always, at least back then, I felt like I was a pretty tough kid. But you had, it wasn't just one dude.

It was multiple. I mean, it was three or four, wasn't it? More than I can even count. Yeah. Honestly, like, it had just really, it'd been a, I don't know what you want to call it, but a combination of adding them all up over time and then just, you know, one that really really did it but uh yeah so i mean thank luckily after you know a certain amount of time uh my dad actually came to me and was like there's this program you can do for people

the hockey player sidney crosby for those you guys know he's like one of the best hockey players anyways he had a lot of the same problems as me he had a really bad concussion and they did this whole thing where they basically like retrained his brain like how to it's a lot with like eyesight like you do like a lot of uh how would i how to describe it like drills basically like you would retrain your eyesight like how to like focus on things and like change and then like turning your head because like all that's such a factor and then exercise as well so like getting back into exercise that's that was really tough for me at the time but like you learn how to you know just run or not run but like i'd do like the stationary pedal bike and slowly worked up in the weights

but that's what really helped me as well Yeah, man, that was... But I feel like then I started getting better, and it was right around the time that we started taking off. So shortly before that, we posted the infamous Shifter Cart video. Yeah. And that was kind of like the very first vlog, vlog. I remember we had the very first video was like an edit mic made.

Life of a C-Way. Yep. And then the second video was the slip-inside. one and I had filmed a like a vlog and I edited it all up really poorly but I remember showing to people and they're like cut the talking out cut the talking out I was like okay so I cut it out and like I wasn't like super happy about it so then I filmed the the shifter cart one and I remember I got it all edited up and it took me like two weeks because back then I couldn't stare at a computer for longer in like an hour or so because it was like just fuck me up so bad so I'd like I'd edit for a little bit

and I'd stop and I'd go back and I also keep mind I'm learning how to edit and I'm learning how to I was on I movie dude I didn't know how to like I didn't know what I was doing I was figuring it out as I go I'd watch like YouTube videos and just kind of learn taught myself um and end up with the product after two weeks and I showed a lot of people and they'd be like it's good but cut the talk cut talk I was like no no like the talking important you need that and then end up posting it I'm like waiting thinking like I'm gonna post this and it's gonna blow up I mean nothing it didn't but you know you're sitting there you have seven subscribers and seven five the accounts are my own personal ones that I made to try to follow it and then the other two

were probably one of you guys um it nothing happened you know and like a month or so later started kind of generating views the very first comment we ever got on our YouTube channel at least on that video we probably maybe had two before that uh the very first comment was you should delete this this is this is bad or something you're you're going to get in trouble and and like my response at the time was like you know back then we were all like fuck everyone and like you you know whatever and my response was yeah if i was a pussy i typed that back that was i think our very first youtube response um used to be and then super savage with the responses even on youtube if you go back to our earlier videos we had the biggest potty mouths

i don't you're so cringy to watch back when we first started those first three videos like i don't even know if any of them are out yet right we filmed like three videos before you would even release because we didn't even miss it all right well i was like well i was filming them but i didn't know they're yeah yeah and i also like i didn't know they were yeah and i also didn't really know what i was doing i couldn't edit them that was probably the main thing but i remember filming the shifter cart and i was like this is gold like this is gonna blow up i felt like it was yeah to like we got to get this out yeah um it was well like we we had no following no so we didn't care what we said which in hindsight is probably the best thing that could happen

because of the moment that you filter yourself that's when you're like this you're not you're not is genuine. I feel like the only reason we and that shows but like oh man the shit we were saying oh Jesus yeah

go back and watch it the first scene the first scene is us asking how hungover Ken was Michael pulls a condom out of his pocket that was a different video that was the shit

that was a slippery yeah that's true yeah but like dude man that's funny we were savage it was funny

like it was honestly it was just true but yeah and I like to think I mean I would not call a savage now but we're just calculated with it

yeah I think nowadays it's so much funny we try not We try not to swear, and if we do, like, we cut out, like, the F bombs because otherwise you get censored by YouTube. Like, so, like, if your video is, like, got a lot of swearing or maybe, like, bad stuff in it, like, it's not going to push that video. You're not going to get a recommended, so it's harder to get more views. It's harder to grow your channel with that. I think a lot of people don't understand that.

Like, if you're a small creator and you're posting videos doing super savage shit and you have nothing else to push it on, it's going to be pretty tough to blow up. In today's day and age. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my opinion. I agree. It's like you post a video, right? And it has, it's just savage, right? And, okay, who cares about the money that it's going to make? Like, ad rev, that's great.

It's good to get. But, like, the fact that YouTube won't push it hurts way more than the ad rev that you're going to make on the video. Because unless you have, like, a cult following that's going to click on your video, no matter what, you know, you still got to abide by YouTube's rules. Right. If you're trying to be a YouTuber, like YouTube is nowadays is obviously Danny, but he blew up in a time when you could get away with that kind of stuff. Yeah. And now he's established.

Nelk, they were kind of the same way they got up. And then Steve will do it. But Steve will do it had Nelk to push him. Yeah. So like if he would have just tried doing his own shit on his own without Nelk, there's no way he would have been where he's at today. No. Or if you would even, even if you would have heard of it.

Yeah, I love Steve's videos. But anyways, where were we at? So post the Shifter Cart video, like two months maybe went by, and it starts like generating views. It was like 100 views, 1,000 views, 10,000. It was like, what the frick? And we were all like, this is so cool. Like, I can't believe this.

And like all the comments were like, we want more, we want more. It hit 30,000 views and we were like, 30,000. We would viral. It was 30,000 was the number. We were just like, yes, we did it. Yeah, we maybe had a thousand subscribers. Like we, after that, if we're lucky even. but everyone wanted more

so I had this video from before that we had filmed in the bank that was us buying a cheap shitty car and Ryan damn near killing Kenon so edited that up I remember I was like I remember editing that like never been to Ken's family cabin before

but it's like oh yeah 11 at night and we went to Ken's family cabin don't know why and edited this on your computer I had it all roughly pretty cut out But it was super long. There was a lot of talking about it. I came to you guys like, hey,

we need to like sit down and tell me what to keep what not too. I'm not going to lie. It was like, we dialed it in like, okay, I think it's good. Dude,

that video is fucking funny. It's got some serious potty language in it. Yeah. That video, post that. Everyone loves it. They love it. And when I say everyone,

it's not really that many people, probably like, 10,000. But the people who wanted us to come back with something of the same caliber. And we basically just kept from that point on

filming. whatever we were doing that weekend because I mean back then everyone had jobs everyone had or maybe went to school so you'd hang out on the weekend this was just a hobby for me I I do have say like everyone always thinks I always this is everything that this has become is literally I knew it was possible I knew it was like something that could happen and that's what I wanted like I really did but I didn't know obviously I didn't know for sure and it wasn't like I was never like I know this is going to happen i was just like i wish i wish i remember i had a vision you always had the most insight bro i remember because i was a big youtube consumer man i saw these only guys you were watching

youtube before anyone i i knew yeah i wasn't watching youtube and i remember we you you showed me one of t j hunts videos a car youtube massive now but at the time you i don't even know if you had 100k yeah and i just remember going how does this guy make money you know like the most common question that we get asked back then it was very young no one knew yeah no one knew and i just remember cj going oh i mean he gets like ad rev but i'm sure he'll start a t-shirt brand and uh grow that and then eventually just sell a bunch of merch and probably just live off of that sure enough that's what he's doing he's killing it now but like dude you always had that insight that was like four years in advance you know i think the reason why uh it took so long to really do it was because i was more so scared

of what people would think but also I was scared of like the work I don't know how to fucking do I didn't know shit about cameras barely knew how to work computer like let alone edit like there's it's like seriously a large barrier to entry just in that yeah I mean you got it's a lot of work and you got to learn you got to be willing to learn it is but um people overthink it especially with YouTube but really anything you know people think that they have to have everything laid out they think that they have to have everything perfect before they start i mean that was even us with this podcast like i think we were overthinking it we wanted to have the the set ready and we wanted to have you know set topics to talk about but like

dude you just got to do it like you want to know like you did it like you were a perfect there is a tip in point in that though and i need to give a shout out no one knows it but he deserves shout out isaac gerard uh he heard me talking about it and he goes we'll take initiative like quit talking about it take initiative yeah I was like, God damn, you're right, dude. Like, so many people now it is, and I mean, I know exactly what it's like, because I used to be the same way until Isaac told me to take initiative. They talk about, like, oh, I want to start this business.

Listen to this idea. And a lot of people come up to us, I think, to, like, tell us that because they maybe think, like, I don't know. But anyways, like, they always come up and they have this idea or whatever. And it's like, why are you talking about it? Why are you telling me? Go fucking do it, dude. If you're going to sit here and talk about it, you've been talking about it for a month,

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I remember like, dude, I was, I'll say it. I was like skeptical because I, not that I was, yeah, I was like, I'd put videos on YouTube. I'm like, yeah, they get like 10. views. I remember everyone thought, like, everyone was pretty skeptical. I'm like, yeah, getting, I said, getting big on YouTube, you know how hard that is. But the fact that C.J. was willing to also do that. I'm like, well, it's probably been appealing to every kid ever that's grown up in this era. But I was like, that's appealing to me. And if you're willing to put in that work,

like, I'm willing to also try for sure. Right. I think the turning point is, well, there's a couple things everyone i think was a little scared of what other people would think yeah and for me it was really associated with anyone other than you guys so i didn't care like i was already kind of like the weirdo yeah from everything uh i i think the parents aspect of hearing their kids on there drop an f bomb like i don't know they were seeing what we were like really doing yeah exactly i mean it's still it's just one of those things you have to deal with you know it's just how it is but and then dude I lost my turn to thought

you're going to have that yeah yeah yeah for his jobs but yeah I don't know I don't know I don't know I had so I knew I wanted to say something but now I forgot fuck

that's all good it's all good but yeah I mean fortune favors the bold yeah and that's why I was like I wanted that story to come across because CJ pushed all of us through to do this

I remember right now I remember right now. Okay. I'm done. Okay, okay, okay. No, you're kidding me, dude. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, tipping point.

Here's the tipping point. Tipping cows. When that first, when the Shifter Cart video hit like 30,000, dude, it just changed. Everyone was just about it. It felt like, it was cool, dude. People were just like, we're filming this weekend, let's go, boys.

Yeah, you got some momentum. Yeah, we had momentum. That is where we're extremely lucky because I'm, like, I can't, I can't say that. And granted, people, when we say blow up, like, we maybe got a thousand subscribers, maybe got a thousand subscribers, people think like, oh, their video blew up and then, like, they were just, but no, like, we still had to keep going. And it was only, it was such a small amount of following.

Like, we probably gained that amount a day now, not to brag, but like, realistically. Yeah. But we just got some momentum. And momentum is the biggest thing in life. I mean, Logan Paul says all the time, you know, it's either working with you or against you but we had the momentum behind us and we just we were about it dude we were having fun doing it dude it was we didn't have much thought behind it was just like what are we doing and we're gonna ride the camera we didn't care so much about the cinematics or like the storyline we were

just doing it it was it was authentic yeah it was very authentic i was like there's definitely no storyline we think that i mean and not that that's i think it's a very good thing we have now but yeah we picked the camera up and there was just nothing to it it was like yeah all right the camera's rolling, Jake's going to burn your pants with a torch. Yeah. Just because the camera was rolling. Yeah.

And he would have done that either. It would have happened either way. But like we were kind of the first country, we're not necessarily country, country boys, but we are probably more on the country boy side when it comes to YouTube. Yeah. As opposed to a city. One, we were the only channel that was doing shit like us. Yeah.

We were. And that's, I think, why it also helped, you know. We weren't copying anyone. We weren't copying any formula. We were just literally being ourselves. and that's another thing I feel like a lot of people when they start YouTube they try to like copy or emulate these people and it's like well dude you're not going to do it as good as them dude you know I'm quite honestly I'm surprised that a group of friends

hasn't tried to replicate our formula so many have but they just don't they're you don't hear about them like they don't get big like yeah I should say I'm surprised that somebody hasn't tried to replicate our formula and worked oh yeah true yeah I don't know man you know why it's I don't have a group of badass friends dude it's it's it's hard. I mean, making it on YouTube is super hard, but doing it with your friends and then becoming business partners. That's so complicated, bro.

Like, we've gotten so many arguments, so many fights. I mean, just it's so tough because everyone's equal owner in this. If it would have been, like, let's say it was like just me that owned it and you guys are still getting paid, none of you would have been, you know, I'm not

doing this. Yeah, if you don't have any sweat equity. Exactly. They don't, no one want, you guys wouldn't want to do that. So it was like only right that it was cut down the middle at the time seven ways at the time seven ways um because you're not making a money no one else yeah but also yeah yeah but i remember we made like a thousand bucks so that's why we had to start an lc and we had to in order so we could get a bank account yeah um we donated it then we just donate we donated the first thousand we didn't know what to do we're like what are we going to do split 1,100 bucks by seven of us and we're like you know

my yeah yeah i think it was just something it was just something nice to do and uh it made a video and it was good um so i guess long story short or just to fast forward basically we we we continued making youtube videos whenever we could it would it'd be maybe two weeks maybe once a month maybe every week but we we slowly did that for a while and we did that for around two years uh ben had had started up the the website with the shirts at that point i was in high school so i mean going back to the fact of, you know, your surroundings almost like, not necessarily like chirping you or making fun of you,

but like you're always kind of conscious of it with your surroundings. I know Ryan was getting fucking reamed in college. I'm sitting at home doing nothing, but this dude is probably, I know for a fact you were getting made fun of it. He was getting churped. I was getting made fun of too, though. People were,

people make fun of you when you try to step out of the norm doing nine to five bullshit, at least around here, probably everywhere. Especially when it comes to entertainment. If you're an entrepreneur, like they're able to sit down and, Oh, it's the C-boys.

Like, oh, what, you know, I don't know. I know you had to deal with it quite a bit. Yeah, I'm sure. Well, you would, you would do it. I mean, it was so tough, like you even pulled back for a while. Like, yeah, like Ryan, I remember was sometimes not about it. Yeah. Just because, at least in the very early or maybe like, it was just more so you're like,

why I was filming this? It was hard. Like, you're a freshman or a sophomore in college. You have no idea, like, who you are. And literally every one of my friends, other than you guys, was either skeptical, silent or like would kind of like make fun of you and even make jokes and then yes the people and now those people show up to our shop hang out and drink but like that's what I was around like five days a week and then it was it was just tough it was like really discouraging and I mean the more that

I would see that you guys were really about it and the more that we would accomplish no and like the stuff and it just like then you got more and more it was fun too though it was a lot of the same stuff that we were doing all yeah it was just it was just public then yeah I think I'm saying the fact that you're putting it on a video And they're like, I already All the people that were like haters Like I already knew these guys are doing this But now they're putting it on online

Thinking that they're gonna make money They think they're so cool Yeah I'm like, no, I'm like we're genuinely trying to make it out of here But then when you start really kind of doing it The tides change I would say like ever since we hit a million Like nobody says shit to me anymore Like I used to go to the bar

And there'd always be like a few people Maybe making fun But now I was like No one said anything yeah Say congratulations. Not like that. That's how it goes with anyone, though. You know, like starting a business, you know, doing music or anything like that.

Like, it's easier to critique or to criticize than to create. You know, anyone that's doing it, anyone that's doing is not hating. But the guys that are like, they're fucking pussies, dude. I mean, look at the people that were talking shit. Where are they now? Nowhere. You know, not to be cocky, but like, let's be real about it. Just don't hate.

That's all. Don't be a hater. I'm not salty about it, though. because, I mean, I like that. I like it when people were young, so, like, I didn't, it didn't hit me. You know, I had teach, dude, I still remember. I had, like, a couple teachers that would make, like, little suss jokes about it. Brough.

And, and, like, I'm like, what? Dude, I had a business professor. I did a paper on this when we were, like, pretty big. Like, we had, like, over 100K, not pretty big. But we, like, we're going. And I was like, yep, this is my full-time job. He goes, that's not a business. Fuck you, bro.

Love you. I think that's the worst part What do you mean? It's not a business I was like no we do the thing We got the LLC we make money We pay taxes like all this stuff I was like no it's a business You guys that's not a business

That's not a real job What you mean? It's a LLC It's a S-Bor- And it's like How is this not a business If it's not making me money to pay my bills Yeah But yeah dude I hate when teachers say that

I mean particularly when teachers and principals And stuff like that That pisses me I hate that I hate that Dude that is why To all you kids out there I don't care of you're a kid or a 50-year-old man.

Like, if you want to do something, do it. Don't worry about what other people think. Like, if you feel passionate about something, you want to do it as long as it's not hurting anyone else or, you know. Yeah. You can make doing anything in America. It's a broad blanket statement. You absolutely can.

Yeah. Yeah, not to get like too motivational. But yeah, I mean, if you're like a parent or a teacher, you make a very big impact on these kids' lives, you know. It's like if somebody came up to me or if I, went up to somebody when I was when I was younger before I was doing YouTube and was like hey I maybe want to do YouTube and they were like oh don't do that well that could have altered you know my entire life and I wouldn't be sitting here right now but like dude yeah I'm especially

the day and age that we're in I think you really can't say that shit you know you can't tell people not to do like the social media thing anymore back then it's different but right now like yeah the proof is in the pudding yeah you know I'm I'm all like we're living proof of whether whether you're trying to be like a rapper, an artist, or even if it's not in a guy. I just try to like support because I know what it's like to have someone you know, have people against you

or talking shit. Like, all you want to hear is that that person is happy to be doing what they're doing. Yeah, we definitely did get motivational on you guys, sorry. Yeah. So anyways, let's get back to the story as to like how this is all come to be. So Ben, you started making the

shirts at around like way too early, quite frankly. But it was hindsight for sure but i mean dude honestly i was just 30 000 subscribers we we dropped t-shirts yeah yeah and we do we sold yeah we sold them i mean a couple of 75 of them oh 75 of each yeah we probably ordered most yeah most of them but dude we had a lot of friends and family that ordered those yeah but it was fun so yeah all i gotta say is like if you're gonna do merch at 30 i think it was 50k for the record but like don't oh it's just not i'll see people drop in merch before they even have like right right and so that's just that word of

No podcast merch drops. Dude, there's, you got steps. A, B, C, D, you know, you can't jump. You can't jump things. But, I mean, in hindsight, it's easy to say. But, like, back then, you're kind of just in, you're just living in the moment. And it was very running gun.

I mean, I wouldn't change. At the end of the day, we just, yeah, it was like, we wanted T-shirts and set our name. Like, at the very least, we want our own. Worked out good. I wouldn't change anything about what's happened. But, yeah. So you, you did that.

We ended up making all of our own shirts ourselves because we couldn't afford to pay other people. So Ben, we were going to buy this, this old scream press from Ben's girlfriend's dad. He had, uh, he runs a, uh, screen printing business. This is like a 1980 screen press. We go over there. We're going to give him like a thousand bucks for it. It's like literally held up by bunchy court. Like it was, it was pretty toast. Is this janky? Yeah. And he goes, he's like, you know what? You guys can just, you can just have it. Really? Okay. So we get this thing and, and basically we drag it over to Ken's uncle's shop.

A total nuisance, by the way, like, everyone, like, bringing it to Ken's... We had to, like, borrow somebody's truck. Whose truck did we borrow to get it? And then we put it in the truck shop. I'm pretty sure we borrowed your dad's truck that we own now. Like, yeah, yeah, Durham Act. So anyways, we set that up and, I mean, basically just like editing and filming taught ourselves how to screen print and, you know, set up a website and do it all ourselves.

We were probably at almost probably $100,000 at that point. No way. Not even close to $100K, bro. We were, we were, it was in like November, December. It was in Decemberish. And I mean, we had only been like getting views since like that September. So it's like three months. I was just like looking back at it.

We were just honestly excited about like starting a business and making money and just like working hard. Yeah, we've always, I will say, like, you know, why this has worked is just because everybody involved was down to work. You know, everyone's hard workers here. Everyone is. And everyone also is, like, pretty good self-starter. Like, we don't look to have someone else teach us. You just start figuring out, honestly, thanks to YouTube, you can pretty much learn anything nowadays.

Actually. Yeah, you know, so we got the T-shirts rolling. We're balancing working jobs, going to school. that was the running running the t-shirt stuff filling orders and then uh printing them as well the biggest thing that stood out as well as making was that like yeah as well as filming we would only print on the weekends we come friday night i'm no joke until four or five in the morning and then we do it again saturday or saturday so that's why and in hindsight in hindsight it was not the way you should just be filming videos don't worry about the merch until you got a strong following

but we were we basically did a lot of stuff the wrong ways and uh through trial and error slowly figured out how to do things the right way because out here though out here though we had no one else to like talk to we couldn't we weren't big enough where we could hit up another big YouTuber and ask them a question or really anyone around here no one would like had no advice no one could relate to this yeah and people that we're trying to give us advice or still do that we're trying to give us advice on our business or our channel or any avenue that we're working on it was like nonsense compared to what we were dealing with yeah you got to take advice from the right people just because someone's a successful let's just say a successful chiropractor

um doesn't mean that they uh should give you advice at how to run your youtube business for instance or any other business that's not related to that i say chiropractor because my dad and then ben's parents are chiropractors but uh yeah so yeah but we still deal with that dude like people try and tell us what to do and we're like bruh not even close to what it is anymore yeah just because you you've been successful in your avenue it really doesn't equate to anything goes back to the very beginning of making the videos if we would have just been making little two minute edits we would have never blown up everyone thought that's what you needed to do uh i remember ken saying one time in the chat like

the videos need to be two minutes max it's like get the fuck out of which ken didn't i mean Nobody knew. But I remember I was working out. I was like, no way. Like, you have to be able, if you believe and feel strongly about what you're doing, you have to be able to lock off what those people are saying and follow with your gut. Following with your gut is probably the best thing I've ever done is just listen to my gut. Honestly, it has not failed me yet.

That's true, dude. You do have a good gut. Over the years, we've had a lot of people come to us to try to help us do business or whatever. Yeah, okay. So at that point, what are we? 100k yeah let's just say and so we get a call the tv show we get a call pick up we can't say the person it was this time too we have to make a big name this hot shot producer let's just say jerry jerry let's say jerry gives us a call hey came across your guys his youtube videos i'd love

to put together a pitch deck to pitch to m tv at the time which we're thinking is the biggest We're like, we're going to be famous, we're going to be rich. MTV, holy shit. And this guy starts just pumping our tires, telling us all this shit, right? So we start sending them footage to put together a highlight reel. Man, so that went on for what? It goes on for over like a year or two. And they're dragging us through the mud.

This guy is just wasting our fucking time. The biggest fucking idiot you'll ever mean in your life. They are. At the time, we didn't know. I was so pumped. on, I'm thinking, like, I'm doing whatever I can to get this. So they come out finally. This is, like, a year or two later, come out to film this pilot episode

or a pitch episode, or whatever the fuck it was. Yeah. Come out, brings out, like, these two guys and we're sitting around, and it was probably two days go by. And after the second day, I was like, this guy, he's not the guy. He didn't know what he's doing. It's a capper. You got to keep in mind, I had, at this point, had two years of making YouTube videos

under my belt. I make videos every week I know what it takes to make a video and this guy's here and I'm like what he's asking questions or not doing certain things I'm like what the fuck

like this guy doesn't know what he's doing well dude the fact that when he got there and we all sat in a circle and he goes all right what should we film I'm like what do you mean you came on this way and you don't know what we're filming you're a 50 40 year old man

what do you mean I thought you filmed all these successful shows And I'd always be like, so, like, what shows, what shows did you, did you film? And he would always say this one. There's just only one that he would mention. But he'd always had stories from all these others, but you never heard about it. Yeah. He had only made one show, and it was like a mediocre, shitty show that was like a copycat of Pimp My Ride.

So anyways, this guy is the biggest fucking idiot. I'm still hate him. I'm so glad, though, I don't have to deal with them anymore. But, yeah, biggest idiot. We filmed this show. dude the whole time fucking shittiest show oh it was terrible

oh it's so bad I'm so glad that never saw the light of day they wanted to change Ben's name to Dougie Doogie doogie Doogie And what the fuck is doogie I remember telling him

I go You know like I mean we have like Probably maybe 200,000 subscribers You know there's like 200,000 subscribers on YouTube We have all these videos Of us calling him Ben

Like what do you mean You can change it to doogie Like what And like the whole premise of the show Is that we were going to it was like basically a mix between what we're doing right now except with science and mathematics and that we were calculating out um i don't know how much i can say but we were calculating out like the forest and the mass of doing this thing i'm like dude no one's gonna buy

this shit and basically after that i was kind of like hands off and like the guy didn't like me the most i swear to god you did not because you saw it through you yeah i think it was because i was a hater i was a hater on him yeah and i was like kind of i was getting in the way of his plan and then so basically the show doesn't get picked up they edit up they show it to us the worst fucking tv episode i've ever seen i was like no one's gonna watch this shit so bad goes and brings us the discovery they say no and then he doesn't even fucking tell us doesn't even tell us that they said no so we're like drug on for like six months i'm thinking like god damn it like and you got to keep mind while we were filming this thing which took way too long probably took a month

to film this episode uh it was all scripted and uh It was the worst episode ever It was just so bad And it took away from us making videos It got in the way Like a month without filming I look at like our YouTube career We always were taking these little like stops

It was like And but that's like any entrepreneurship thing Like it's not a straight line It's like Weaving and that's exactly what we were doing We were freaking way over If we would have just stayed to it We'd been here a long time ago

Hindsight's We watched that episode back Right we watched that back And we were like, well, here's what we don't want to do. Here's what we don't want to look like. Yeah. Which is interesting to see. Dude, I remember we had one of the filmers who were like shooting something.

And I just remember going, so, all right, let's quit beating around the bush here. How much are we getting paid? Yeah. And this guy goes, well, I'm not even getting, no. Yeah, yeah. And he goes, I don't know, it might be a thousand bucks. $1,000 bucks an episode, maybe a little less, and I was up,

what? We spent a week and a half filming this for a thousand bucks of hell? But the other guy was so full of shit, he was like pumping our parents. He's like, we're going to need to get them attorneys. We're going to, because they're going to be making some serious money. I remember, like, my parents sitting me down like,

like, why don't you telling us about this? Like, what do we need to get an order in line so that way you're taking care of? I'm like, why are you not more excited about this? I'm like, no, no. Listen, like, this, it's not going to fucking work. Every, it's not going to work. Like, I can't get through it everyone else. Everyone else kind of was on board.

I was like, it's not going to work. It's not going to work. And everyone thought I was kind of just a fucking idiot for that. But it didn't fucking work. Oh, man. Glad it didn't. Like, I was like, I got it. And some people, I mean, we should probably not talk anymore about it.

We'll really get into it. Maybe in the episode when Jake comes on, if he was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But some people were more enthusiastic and had more faith in the guy than the rest of us. I mean, I think at the end of the day is because he's a schmoozer. Yeah. The guy schmoozer, I mean, he sold. And I was like, again, I'll be the one to say it.

Like, particular people. I, at the time, not necessarily, I was like, we need to. Yeah, but I was like, he schmoozed me. I felt like he knew more than he did. Yeah. Because he didn't know anything. Yeah, he was a great salesman. He shouldn't have been making videos or TV shows because he sucked ass to that.

what he should have been doing is selling, like, shitty cars. He could have sold so many of those or, like, shitty, like, vacations. Oh, you know, just way overpriced. You could have been a time share. Yeah. God damn it, that guy sucked ass. CJ hates this guy if you haven't figured that.

But I probably don't hate them more. I probably don't hate them anymore than the one other guy. But, uh, which is funny. Yeah, no, I don't mind them now. I don't even think about it anymore until now that we brought it up. So anyways, that all happened. and then where do we pick up where do we pick up should we pick up as after last oh so there we got to mention this in the story something that was a big pivotal moment in our YouTube career was

when Jessica took us on to do merchandise yeah yeah because she at the time we were printing all her own shirts so it was like we were only making we were making very few videos but we were selling shirts we were just totally preoccupied doing that um trying to keep up with it we just weren't focused she DMed us and was like you guys need to outsource your merchandise and just focus on making more videos and I would love to do it or something like that. I was like, okay. So like I dimmed her back and she didn't DM me for like two weeks later. Then finally she'd DM you want to hop on a call. I was okay. So we hop on a call. She talks to us. She flies out, visits with us for like literally three hours. There's a baller move.

Like it came out to talk with us in person for three hours and show us like some like products. We're like, yeah, yeah, we want to do it. We sign this thing. And, uh, keep in mind. So this is also Tanner Fox's business partner. They own it together. It's like they do the merchandising, which is no secret. They talk about all the time. And basically she was like, gave us so much insight into the YouTube game

and kind of helped steer us in the right direction. And she told us what was possible. If we were to outsource or merch, what was possible. And then she kind of taught us about how to do drops. And then also like making more videos, making more videos. And making videos. telling us how much these other YouTubers were making off

their merch. Yeah. Like I knew how much they were making off ad rev, but we weren't pulling that many views at the time. And so we were relying on the merch. But she was telling us how much of these guys that were pulling the same amount of views as us were making off merchandise. And I was like, this is fuck. Dude, we were like

looking at each other, like, what have we been doing the past two and a half years? So anyways, she takes us on. Yep. We start outsource our merch. We basically kind of followed her game plan. Game plan i'd say yeah i mean just like her suggestions she took us under her wing yeah she took us under everything for us and we started posting more videos we start that's when we started doing two a week

we start blowing up dude or maybe it was one a week at the time then we start pushing the two and we start making that's the only thing we focused on and views started climbing um subscribers started counting climbing and then uh we started doing the merch drops and shit was selling like like i don't it was just selling really fucking We were doing, like, kind of the Supreme-style, like, limited. Which I don't, I don't think she necessarily invented. She didn't invent it, no. However, she suggested it.

And I hope that you guys like that, because we like doing that. It just makes more sense. It's more exciting for me, like, versus, because before we would just put shit on the site as it, as we were able to print it, I guess. But, yeah, it's way more fun the way we're right now. It's just more hype. Exactly. So we have to thank Jessica for that. For, like, teaching us how to, just how to do it.

Dude, it would be fun to have her on, like, a podcast. Yeah, that'd be really fun. I don't know if you, it'd be a lot of work for it. Come on with all here, but, yeah, I would love to. Yeah. So we have to thank her for that. We're no longer with them just because, I mean, we got. We got the new shot.

We got a new shop. We can warehouse our own stuff. We got a team of five guys. We're more refined. We're more efficient. It, it, uh, it didn't necessarily make sense as a bit, from a business standpoint to to keep doing it. with them.

Nothing happened. Like, we loved it, but it just didn't make sense for us. If we were a solo YouTuber or a team of two or three, you'd have to. There's no other option. But for us, being we're in a weird situation, we do it this way. Brought it back in house. Yeah, it's going really well. You got five miles to feed.

Or, you know, like being that there's five of us at that point, yeah, five. Everyone needed a job. Everyone did. Everyone needed a position to fill and feel like, you know, that they had a job show up for every single day. So being that we were outsourcing the merchandise, which was bringing in, like, 75% of the revenue, like it just made more sense.

At the time, yeah. It made more sense for us to just bring it back in house, being that we knew how to do it. Mike was still the designer, and he still is the designer, but he's been doing it since we started, you know, so that wasn't a complication. And quite honestly, like, we knew how to do it because we did it. So we, and I've been more accomplished that we did,

as of right now where we sit, feel so proud of bringing it back in house and even doing it bigger than that we've done everything that was the thing is like oh can you continue to do the scale that we were doing and we did and we did and I think we probably doubled we worked hard though we were very hard but that brings us up to when we pulled back from working with them we still talk with them all time by the way but when we brought it back in house that was during a month before we were going to move into this shop We had it all set up that we were going to buy this shop from Ryan's dad. He was building a new shop.

So it was going to be a very clean transition. At that time, we got hit with a bombshell back in, like, so it would have been like end of April, I think. Jake comes to us and tells us he's leaving to go and try doing his own thing. We'll talk about that more maybe on an episode if he ever decides to come on. So then we're, so it's like we have that. Right after we told Jessica that we were. And then we got the merchandise in-house, and it was so much.

It put us in such a bind. We had to... Well, we had to make the payment. Yeah, we didn't have any of the money. Yeah, we had to make the down payment for the shop, which was... I don't know if we can talk about it. I don't know if we should talk about that. I mean, that's what the down payment was.

I don't know if we should. I feel like normally people would bleep that. Okay. Yeah. So it was an X amount of dollars. So we had to make this down payment. Um, and we were going through hell. We were bringing the merch back in house.

But we're also going through a split with Jake. Well, that was, yeah. He had to get his name off the company. And, uh, he had people possibly in his corner that weren't in his, uh, in his favor. I think he would agree with that. In our favor. They were also not in our favor. They weren't his favorite.

They, I guess maybe at the time, but ultimately not his favor, but they were trying to fuck us over. Oh. They were trying to fuck us over. Yeah. And they wouldn't sign. So we couldn't get a loan. So we had to keep paying cash.

We couldn't get a loan to buy the shop. And because Jake's didn't want to be on the loan. Guy signed into our business. Jake's guy wouldn't basically let Jake sign off of the company. Yeah. Well, we couldn't get a loan if Jake was still in the company. So we were putting a super hard predicament. Every month we would fork over all of our cash.

No one was getting paid. We didn't have a month. to like make videos which made us have to get very creative um dude when you it was the hardest time our back was to the wall and that lasted all the way up until November bro they pushed it all the way I mean maybe not they I shouldn't say that but it was just it lasted all the way till November and uh we had our backs up against the wall every dollar we made basically had to get paid to the shop because we couldn't get a loan um which in hindsight was pretty cool the um the um I'm not saying, yeah.

In hindsight, the fact that we were able to just keep paying and buying this, you know, working towards the shop, I think when you don't have an option, that's when you, like, really, like. It's when you do stuff, man. We had to put our nose to the grindstone and fucking get it done. And that's what we did. God damn that time. So happy we're out of that now. It was tough because, like. So stressful.

Everything you had worked for was on the line. Everything you had worked for was on the line. Oh, also, also, all these. motherfuckers were just telling us how we're going to fail without Jake everyone in the community and then everyone's commenting oh you guys aren't shit without Jake

and that's what fired us up we were like oh we'll fucking see buddy we can't prove them right yeah no and that was the thing is like I think everyone truly up against the wall people then that's why we started this podcast when you watch the YouTube videos you have a misconception

you don't actually know what's really going on around here. And I think a lot of people maybe thought, without him, we were nothing. They thought he was, I don't know, but, and he was amazing character. I honestly, I wish Jake was still a part of, like, the team. Like, it was, he's great.

Like, when we were filming with him at the Bachelor party, that shit was fun. We didn't miss a beat. Yeah. It was perfect. He, like, went back right to, it was, it was so fun. And we still do love Jake. I mean, what's done is done, though.

Yeah, I wouldn't change. It's too late now. It's a single thing. Yeah. Now that's happened. It is. It's unfortunate. But, yeah, dude. I mean, there's just so much behind the scenes, you know, that you don't see in the videos

because you click on the videos to be entertained. Obviously, at the end of the day, that's our job as creators is to make sure you're entertained. So we didn't want to bring in, you know, like the drama aspect of like what's going on behind the scenes, which is hard, dude. We also legally couldn't talk about it. Oh, that too. Probably still can't. But it's not get it. Oh, that's why it's Jerry.

Yeah. I don't know, yeah, yeah, Jerry. But, so, I mean, that does somewhat lead us up to today. I mean, realistically, now we're starting the podcast. We're just building, we're kind of rolling. Do we have anything else we want to talk about? I feel like we've really, we've gone for a while. Dude, we were all over the place, but I'm sorry, it's our first time.

It felt really good. It was just a conversation, bro. We wanted to, like, get a lot of stuff off our chest. I also feel like there's like a few, like, I mean, there was a lot of stuff we didn't touch on but it's like how do you do all that you guys would be listening like a 10 hour thing maybe we'll talk about it more if you guys are interested comment down below um but the last thing i'll touch on the reason why it's called sea boys tv so before we even were YouTubers everyone used to call us the sea boys because we were the boys of Cormorant that everyone

would maybe come and hang out with on in you know on the weekends so instead of saying I'm going to hang out with Ryan Ken Micah Ben and CJ and then Jake and Justin at the time it It was like, I'm going to hang out with the C-Boys, the Cormorant Boys. It was Cormorant Boys, then they started going, C-Boys for short. Then, so when it came around to making a YouTube channel, it was like, okay, well, like, what are we going to call this? Well, it's more so me. I was texting Mike. I was like, what are we going to call us?

I mean, I'm like, bro, I don't know. It's a big deal. Knowing one day that we'd be where we're at. Like, that's a big deal. We'll do C-Boys TV because it's going to be like a TV show on our life. And, yeah, that's basically how it happened. I think a lot of people think, like, we were just like, we're the C-boys. And this is it.

You can't join. This is a club. You know, it's not like that. We just, the name was given to us. We've been friends the whole time before that. And then that turns out to be our whole brand name. We might, we might honestly owe somebody some royalties, but, I mean, a random girl, dude. A random girl started calling the C-boys.

Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but you're not kidding any, bro. Should have trademarked it. Yeah. We're like, listen, it's not even that good of a name. It's just the name we got. But I think it's time.

to cut it. Thank you guys for listening. If you have not yet, hit the subscribe button. Remember, hit the like, subscribe, and comment on YouTube, and then we're going to be picking two of you to give away $500, too. I really enjoyed this. Yeah, this was fun. Hopefully, hopefully you guys did too. Ken, and special appearance. Ken, yeah, yeah. Jamie, young Jamie, get in here. Ken, could you keep the headphones on? You just look so good in them. You just look so good in them. This is our guy, Ken. He's Show that beautiful face, Ken. Say, say, do you have anything you want to say, Ken? I just, uh, showing the laptop back to him.

Ken, we're gonna, we're gonna get you in on the next one, Ken. I don't know. I had to use mine. We're gonna get you on the next one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was. Also, every podcast is probably gonna be different as we mentioned. New people on every time. You know, this was just like, I want to have Justin on.

He's a great talker. And he's so good. He's easily way smarter than us. So, yeah, very interesting aspect to the, to the group for sure. But, yeah, every podcast is going to be different. we're going to um obviously we got the story of how we came to be out of the way i'm sure i'm sure a lot people are interested and you'll learn more about it as we go on but we have a lot more to talk about than just that so we have a lot of stories on like how how certain things came to be like

why we are the way we are yes yes we'll get into so comment those down below we're dragging out thank you guys so much we will see you next time peace