Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Argentinean? with Camila Morrone

Episode Date: April 2, 2026

Actress Camila Morrone (The Night Manager, Daisy Jones and the Six) joins Chelsea to chat about working with women showrunners, how she learned to love horror, and what it’s like getting new siblings as an adult.  Then: A dad behaving badly online might get him banned from his kid’s wedding.  A mom wonders if she should reach out to her long-lost siblings. And a 30-something gets dumped by ChatGPT.   * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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There's no snow, but everyone's still talking about the snow, but the snow is gone. I did a lot of press yesterday. We're talking about my dating app. That's not a dating app. It's just on my Instagram, but people are calling it a dating app.

and it was your socials team prepared for this no they're never prepared for anything I do I wasn't even prepared for it I didn't realize how many dms were going to come through and you know that's just me never thinking things through but I really do want to let my people know the people who are listening to this podcast I am I really do want to help people meet each other and I do want to find like cool men for women to hook up with because I do believe they're out there and many of them are getting divorced or have gotten divorced so there are good men out there and some of them you know but like we have to weed through all of this so I'll be getting updates right and I'll be giving updates I'm not we're doing it we're it's on so like it's happening I just need

a bigger team of people and more of a bandwidth but I have hooked up like two gay guys I've hooked up two separate gay guys and a straight couple have gone on a date I mean you're a regular grinder over here so this is happening it's it's working it's just we haven't figured out what the next formal iteration of my dating service is going to be. And I don't even want to call it a dating service because I can't commit to doing this, but I am going to try and help. Anyway, that's what's happening in New York. I'm leaving tomorrow. I have new shows that I'm doing. I've just announced a whole new batch of shows for the second leg of my High and Mighty tour. And I've added second shows and I am coming to all the cities that I haven't been to yet that you haven't seen. So go

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Something Very Bad Is Going to Happen and The Age of Innocence. Please welcome Camila Marrone. Okay, great. Let's go. I see that you wear shoes on your couch. I don't give a shit what you put on my sofa. I walked in your house and I was like, should I take my shoes off? I'm such a New Yorker.

I'm like, should I take my shoes off? What do I do? Is that a New Yorker? Well, New York is, yeah, that's disgusting. Because you could bring like a dead body on the bottom of your feet. I honestly don't like, when I think about moving to New York, which at some point I will do, because I have to live in New York at some point. you still haven't done it no and I'm from New Jersey

okay well now it's my like my favorite past time was like converting people I've like made it I'm like at like nine like my number's crazy I'm like really good at getting people

to move to New York really and I find it like like a weird test yeah yeah yeah no it is a good thing to be good at I'm like you want to live here

what what how long have you lived in New York now I lived in New York for three years but I act as if I like built the city with my bare hands

I'm like the Brooklyn Bridge I did it I did that okay so what prompted you to move to New York because you're from LA you grew up here I'm born and raised in LA. I went to school in Santa Monica. I went to school in the Valley. I went to school all over. I went to Beverly Hills. So I had divorced parents that were fighting about, you know, where to live. So I've lived everywhere. But then I just felt like post pandemic, I thought it, you know, things changed, obviously, in LA. And I just thought, I wanted to do something that I just wanted to, like, wake up and go to the theater if I wanted to, which I don't ever do. But I could do it.

it's not usually yeah it's they're not usually playing in the morning so new york is crazy i'm sure there is some fucking i got a little bit i got a little bit you know bored of la and i didn't want to be in the car for so long and i just was like i want to maybe go for a walk if i want to go for i haven't i didn't recreationally walk in la in 25 years i don't think i ever went for like a walk do you walk no no i don't walk here i don't i don't do anything here because i i feel i'm with you on the la thing like i was going to move to new york and then i this house kind of took longer than i anticipated and so i kind of put a pin in it but i'm with you about la is a little as uh it's a little boring like everything closes at 9 p.m like what if you want

to go to koreatown at 11 30 like i don't do any of it but i know that it's there so like i have the option yeah right i actually find myself being more fun in new york i like go to the comedy cellar on a random tuesday night when i can get in and all that yeah that's like fun for me are you a subway person like yeah i take the train everywhere i mean i don't think you i mean i get really sick in the back of like ubers and i hate being schlepped and i hate small talk i hate i hate underground transportation like the person that all the uber jars are like i'm like how are you like well actually my wife left me she's been sleeping with my my best friend for 35 years and i found out yesterday i'm in the back like being shoved around manhattan like about to throw up in

the back of a car so the train yeah great i don't like underground transportation there's something about that smell that i can't get past i'm very sensitive to some of the trains are very clean Okay, well, I believe you, but I probably won't find out about it anytime soon. Well, I don't think you need to. You can sell this house and never take a train again. It'd be fine. Or take trains for the rest of my life, depending on how that goes. Wait, first of all, I can't stop looking at your eyebrows because they are so perfectly

coiffed, if you will. And do you use anything for your eyebrows? Because my makeup artist did it to me yesterday, and I had eyebrows like I had never had before. They were sticking up kind of like yours and combed, and I loved it. I've actually never, the one thing that I listened to my mother, two things. She was like, don't ever get a tattoo because she's had to get all hers removed, her tramp stamp removed. And then she was like, don't ever touch your eyebrows. And when I was a teenager, you know, like it was like cool to do the 90s brow.

And it's the only thing that I actually listened to her that now I'm like kind of grateful that I didn't do. But I've never touched them. I've never waxed or done anything. So what do you do? Do you brush them like that? Well, I just, yeah, I brush them like that. They look good. They look really good.

They're really thick. You know, I have to embrace it. Well, you're Argentine, right? Yes. And is that the proper way to say Argentinian or Argentine? I don't know Argentinian, Argentine. I was told it was Argentine, but I would, I mean, you should find out. I'm Argentinian.

I'll ask. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Please. Cause I'd like to say it correctly. Well, especially if you're not from there, I want to pay with like the right amount of respect to people.

Argentine or Argentinian has to be politically correct. You speak Spanish. Yes. Yeah. Okay. And both of your parents are Argentinian or Argentine? Argentine or Argentex. I don't know who it is.

My mom and dad are, it's actually a funny story. They're both from Buenos Aires in Argentina and they met at a club called Tequila that is still a club. and my mom was 19 and her family were like all lawyers and politicians and worked for the president my dad was a 27 year old male supermodel named maximo morrone and she was like i'm going to move to paris with maximo and we're going to make love and have babies and then like very shortly after they very much did make love and have a baby and i'm that baby and you're that baby that's the only baby they ever had and then what happened yeah i mean what do you think happened

And then I met him at a club called Tequila, and there was a divorce about seven years after. Because of Tequila. Which is why I had too much Tequila. Well, who knows what was a part of that divorce. So you bounced around a lot between your mom and your dad in Los Angeles. And how was that? I mean, I hated it. Like, I had to pack a little doggy bag every week and, like, bring all my schoolwork and all my, you know, like, my makeup that my mom would let me use, my dad wouldn't let me.

I mean, just, like, typical child of divorce parent stuff. But I got to live all over L.A. I mean, they were like, my dad was like, I want to surf in Santa Monica. My mom's like, I live in the Valley. So like the only person that gets like fucked in that is me. No wonder you were sick of sitting in a car. Yeah, I was like, I never want to sit on a freeway ever again. But this freeway that we actually just passed coming here, that was my freeway.

I know that freeway very well. Were you triggered? Yeah. I called my therapist immediately. But aren't there some advantages to having divorced parents? Like, can't you play them off of each other and kind of use that to your advantage in some regard? Not in the slightest because they talk about everything. that's the worst part about having parents who like got along after their divorce or like

sometimes got along because my mom would like fact check and be like is it true that she said that you can do this and like at your house and whatnot so no no okay there was no advantage there was no advantage maybe like crying easier in a movie set when I like have to think about my trauma but that's pretty much it and what about growing up in Los Angeles what did how did that inform your life and I mean you you dropped out of school high school at 15 right I mean I went to independent studies. I got my GED and I studied at like independent studies, which was basically my way out of being like, I'm a working actor. I was not a working actor yet, but I was modeling then. And I got to do like home study where you like bring your work to school. You kind of Google

the answers and then you like send it back. And I still got to graduate my class and like throw my cap and gown and all that. But I mean, growing up in LA, I mean, I guess you don't realize like last night I was driving through Beverly Hills and I was showing someone was like, Oh my God, that was like my Rite Aid and that was my Mulberry's pizza and that was my Chipotle. He's like, that's insane that Beverly Hills was like your Chipotle, your Chipotle and your pizza shop. Like that's not normal. Yeah. Like that's insane. Even when I call Verizon and I'm like giving them my zip code, they're like 90210, like the show. I'm like, it doesn't feel like that when you're from here. But like, I guess it really was that to the rest of the world. I always find that

my girlfriends that grew up in LA have like their frame of reference and their, their reality is so far afield from what's happening in the rest of the world exactly my point especially when you grow up in a 90210 error code and you don't leave like i it's so nice to hear that you left because it you have to have a sense of what's happening in the world and it's not here that's like even getting on the subway in new york the train i think it's like you see like the chic woman who's from the upper east side and she's got her fur coat on and then you see somebody else who's like an artist from brooklyn you can tell them they're like making music on the train i think just like people actually need to pay their rent in new york in a very serious way because

new york is so expensive and i think that you just like have real humans it's i would say the best thing about new york is it's less hollywood concentrated that's right like you don't run into an actor or screenwriter or producer even though there's nothing wrong with those people because i am one of them but um there's something wrong with all of those people i'll go i'm just you you be polite and i will go on the record from me like i will go on the record yeah you can translate the words yes yes yes yes um but I think that's like it's just a little bit of a breather not everybody's doing something in the industry all the time yeah and that is refreshing because you meet different types of people and you're like oh that's interesting and it kind of piques

your interest to get like to get involved in other things that normally you know you might not be you know I think the thing in LA is everyone kind of sticks to their home base a lot yeah and you don't go out of your comfort zone like I just went to this thing last night it's like I know all the people that were there i'm like there wasn't a new person you know what i mean i'm like i never meet anyone new here i heard this thing once that la is a city that happens behind closed doors and i feel like that's so true like it's a party or it's at a restaurant or it's it's all inside somewhere but don't you even go to the same like five restaurants right i do feel like living in new york you like push yourself to to be a little bit more exploratory and go out and

try new things i also think like for someone my age it's important to move to new york because as you get older like you want to be vibrant and like you know like otherwise i'll just take a xanax at seven o'clock and go to bed and by the way you can also do that in new york you can also do people are like when you go to new york you have to be non-stop i'm like i take a xanax at 8 30 three nights a week yeah yeah i love xanax i love it somebody told me right now 10 a.m guys i would never okay let's talk about your projects because there are a lot of them we have to discuss first of all you're in the night manager too which is out everyone can watch that night man it took enough fucking time for them to come out with the sequel that was like

a toddler when the first one was but the first one was in crazy play and the second one is really really awesome too so it's great because sometimes the second seasons of series do not stack up and this one absolutely does and that's where i first noticed your eyebrows to be honest with you i don't want to focus so much this is like brow gate do i have like they're gorgeous like anastasia a brow gel okay oh that's all right yeah that's what you used on me yesterday i mean i didn't use it today obviously because sometimes i think like my mom was like i did i went through a phase where i was like over slicking them she's like it kind of looks like you've been on like a moped and just like took took your head it looks like there's actual gel in them i don't like that when i do

it and sometimes the gel comes out and then it looks like somebody i thin it out always i'm a virgin actually don't talk to me about the filming where did you get to go on location for night manager two so we started in london and then we went to columbia we did five different cities in colombia and then we finish in spain in the canary islands oh oh that's sexy yeah and you just got back from sevilla last night you got back from seville i don't know that's another one sevilla yeah i don't know sevilla for you that's my penelope cruz they're gonna execute me when i went in spain next time they're gonna be like she's how dare you yeah yeah we were in seville finishing the age of innocence yesterday

Okay, so that's another movie. That's another one. It's a TV show, yeah. And then you have Something Very Bad is Going to Happen. Yes, which is this week. Which is this week, which is from the guys who did Stranger Things. Yeah, Duffer Brothers. Okay, this is the first thing that they've done out of Stranger Things.

Executive produce. Okay, okay. The first thing that they've executive produced from Stranger Things. So let's focus on one project and talk about that first. Which one would you like to start with? My eyebrows. Let's go back to my eyebrows. No, okay, what do you want?

What do you want to know? Well, as a horror fan, I love something very bad. But I also love that you got to work with a woman showrunner, right? Creator, showrunner. Which is now, it's so funny because people bring this up in interviews, but I feel like I got into the industry at probably a turning point because I've like almost exclusively worked with female directors. So cool.

Which is crazy because I guess I say it to people and they're like, oh my God, that's so rare because of course it's not where the industry was 10 years ago. That is so nice to hear. But I, the last, I mean, the last five things I've done have all been, even on TV shows like Age of Innocence, three female directors, something very bad, three different female directors. I worked with Patricia Arquette on Gonzo Girl oh god tell us about Patricia Arquette

she's the fucking she's the fucking coolest I will I'm totally going to reach out to her we need to reach out to Patricia Arquette she's awesome she's also like very like kooky hippie like I won't talk to Patricia for the six months and then she'll send me

like all these endometriosis like herbal medicines that she found on an Instagram account I'm like how'd you even find this part of the web like what are you on every time I come across a weird Instagram account Patricia Arquette has liked it i'm like but like how to make your house feel weird and it's like hearted by patricia and then also my favorite part about patricia she's the best she she'll comment on on people are like you feel bad about your life my husband did this to me after 30 years and she's like you

should have left that man 30 years ago and she'll comment publicly on her account and then she gets in conversation with people on instagram i know i love it i love that behavior i like odd behavior i'm like i'm like did i tell her that like everything's public on instagram or just let I don't think she gives a shit. You know what I mean? I think when you get to a certain age, I'm there. You do not care. She doesn't give a shit.

You're just out there doing your thing, and you're like, listen, I've already got my shit together. Like, you're not – someone like her who is, like, so solid, like, what's somebody going to do to her? No, she's getting involved. She's getting involved. I'm, like, at the place. I'm like, I don't want to say anything about anyone or anything or hurt anything. And then she's just like, what do you want to know? Let's do it.

So how was she as a director? Oh, my God. Patricia's – she's hilarious. she's very like she's very kind of um energetic and I would say emotional and I think having been an actor she really doesn't hover and so she really kind of lets you find it and I'd even go up to her after takes and be such like an anxious people pleaser and I was like what did you think did you like it she's like honey everything you do is good like everything is interesting and just try something else if you don't feel it like let's try something else then

I was like okay I'm like calling my therapist I'm like being validated feels so good I didn't know this and well like okay so so that's one female director on the night manager you did did you have female director okay georgie and then you got to speak spanish and english on that and have you done that before no i haven't and i also did colombian which is super different okay argentinian yes because i took my first spanish lesson my first spanish maestra was from colombia and she was like that is the spanish like the spanish that you need to learn is colombian and i'm like neutral that does not feel neutral but everyone says that it feels like there's a neutral here supposedly spain spanish is like the spanish but i was like there's way

more people who live in south america who speak a different kind of spanish but i can be in spain and like not understand a lot of words right they're like vamos a coger el coche i'm like i can't i don't understand right yeah they use the word coger a lot which means to fuck They use it for everything The Jonas Brothers are running it back We live the burning up tour And celebrate the biggest Jonas Brothers hits That have defined a generation

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Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so that was night manager. You got to go to all these fun places. Yes. And that was not why you were in Sevilla, though. No, that was Age of Innocence. Age of Innocence was why you're in Sevilla.

Yeah. That's not out yet. That is not out because I wrapped it yesterday. Okay, this is four. So now we're talking about four projects. We're on three. Okay, so we're all over the shop here. But so do I.

So it doesn't matter. I just want to keep track of the fact that you have four different projects going. okay so people who watching this know which one we're talking about gonzo girl with patricia arquette the story about hunter s thompson we love that that was a film and then we did night manager in all those amazing countries and then something very bad which is coming out this week how do you feel about horror films in general oh yeah okay so this is what we're talking about i actually wasn't a horror fan growing up like i saw the trailer or a poster for chucky and i

didn't sleep for 15 years like i created the story of what chucky does i don't even need to know the plot line I was like it's a little red-headed doll that's like under the bed and stuff and I know he's out to get me yeah and then I saw when a stranger calls which destroyed me still to this day if I see unknown number on my phone I'm certain if someone the call is coming from inside the house and I was totally traumatized my whole childhood and I would like make my dad check the bed and all the things and then when I got a little older and actually for this project I started watching like a wider range of horror films that like weren't meant to like traumatize you for life and I fell in love with horror.

Yeah, I really love it now. I feel like horror is better to watch for me personally because I have like a jumping instinct. A jump scare. Yeah, I have a jump scare. Is A, on a plane when I'm surrounded by people.

Yeah, daylight only. I would never watch something at night. Right, and during the day. But I could be on a plane at night as long as the windows are open. Then I'm okay. And if I'm on the window. I do daytime always

and I will probably most of the time cover one of my like sensories. like if it's something scary i'll probably cover my ears so i don't get both i can't like watch something scary and hear something scary i have to pick what about violence i don't like love blood and guts and horror like i don't i don't love that and that's what i love about the show is that it's not like organs spilling out and like toenails being ripped off it's like just a creepy ambience and what i liked about it too is they'll set something up and you're like okay you know this girl is like going into these scenarios and it's very creepy and like why doesn't she

and then they solve it and then there's like a new scenario so it's like it's not just like a one and done like there's a real layered story there

and sometimes that's creepier than the actual but I really don't like violence like when I see men hitting men or women violence against women

I cannot watch it all but I just can't even watch it I end up closing my eyes half the movie so if it's too violent it's like a waste it's wasted on me

yeah I this show is cool because it's more of a psychological thriller I think than like and I think maybe perhaps I don't like the traditional horror in the sense of like blood and guts and violence i like more of the slow burn

psychological torture you know who else is argentinian or argentine anya anya taylor joy yeah do you know her oh she was just in prague when i was filming and we didn't get to meet up but she was filming something but uh we know each other just casually from like award shows and stuff since i go to so many awards it's probably one that i've ever it's so funny because i was at glastonbury this year i met her at glastonbury and she was in the crew that i was hanging out with. And I had no idea she was Argentinian or Argentine. We're going to get to the bottom of this. Or someone will for us. Don't worry, they'll get to us before we can even get to it. But we had this beautiful conversation, which I've been kind of taking on the road with me

and taking ownership of because it was about ascension, like about how women are never like cooked. We're constantly growing and constantly learning because we were talking about our age differences. And I was experiencing like a really fun career moment at that time. And I was like, she's like, that's so awesome. And I was like, yeah, I'm 50 years old. Like how, can you believe like that? That's like a peak that I never thought I would peak or have a moment like that. Because you're told that you're basically going to die after 35.

Yeah, you're told after 40 that you're like useless. And I'm like, some of my best career moments have happened between 40 and 50. And now that I'm 51, I just turned 51. I'm like, I'm more excited now than ever because I look at everything as an ascension. Like now I'm like, as long as women are here, especially for women, as long as we're here, we're in ascension. When we die, then it's over. Like the idea that you can't do something, like I learned how to be a kick-ass skier

when I was like 43, 44 years old. People usually are like, I didn't learn how to ski well. Well, I was resentful to my parents because I'm not like those skiers on the slopes that has like the little hip movements and they've all been in class since they were two. And I was like, you never made me stick to any sports and now I'm not good at anything. I'm like, I hate you guys. But they were like, you can go out there and try. So it's good to know that I can become a great skier.

And now I can ski. I would ski most people like that I even meet. You know, people that live in, I have a house in Whistler, Canada. when i go there like people that live there i ski better than they do my mom got dropped she went heli skiing yesterday in switzerland called me from the bottom hysterically crying she was like a powder is so hard nobody told me there was no way down oh that's so funny my mom like got the like slowed down the entire crew that she was with she'd never heli skied she was with these like really good skiers and they dropped her off and she was falling the entire time she's like i

was she's like i was buried under the powder was awful so it's hard powder skiing's hard if you've never powder skied yeah i have i had that problem you yeah because it's deep and it's like everything you learn about skiing it's kind of the opposite technique for powder you don't do much you just kind of hop and bounce around but it's really scary going heli skiing already and then if you don't know how to ski i don't mean a helicopter and i don't want to ski on the top and you don't want to jump out of a helicopter yeah so i don't think the combination is meant for me but i am down i am adventurous i would do i would do it so back to ascension back to female ascension and women ascension how old are you right now 28 oh oh my god you're a baby no but it doesn't feel

like that i feel all the things that you're saying it's actually really real it's so weird and it's like almost it's like almost 30 and it sounds like you know 30 is such a baby but it's like my friends are actually starting to like get engaged and get married and most of my friends have babies already at 28 30 i'm like why why do they have babies already i don't know i thought that was out of style in your time they're like having babies but they're kind of like you know even my dad was like you know you have to you know if you're gonna date somebody now it's kind of got to be your person because you're like almost 30 and I'm like I'm almost 30 like what does that mean no it's so scary but it's so it's but it's you have so much to look forward to yeah

like I wish when we were our age actually this is the moment because I'm so much older than you and I can tell you you have so much to look forward to like you're 28 you already have a huge career you already have a full life you're already living in New York like your life is just going to get better and better and better the more experiences you have and like the older you get and I'm here to testify to that thank you for saying that but like it really is kind of traumatic and even in the Oscars I remember like when Michelle Yeoh won everyone was like oh my god you can win an Oscar at that age and it's like what are we talking about but it really is I think specifically in the industry like the leading lady is meant to like die out at you know 36 or 38 years

old you know it's like then you move into the mother role you're no longer like the love interest And I just, I find that really confusing and scary. And it just feels like there's this like finite time limit on it. But it's just not true. Look at Nicole Kidman. You know what I mean? Look at Frances McDormand. Look at all those types of women that are just like constantly picking projects that they want to do.

Look at Patricia Arquette. You know, like they're all perfect examples of the fact that you are, people are still working at that age. And that we've been fed this idea and this bullshit. And it's kind of like counter to everything that's going on politically. like not even though Hollywood still has a long way to go with sexism and racism we are it is counter to what is happening in the world so like that's just not true people are working in their 50s and 60s like never before look at Meryl Streep look at you know but I find myself like unlearning this like pretense that I feel that I have maybe I've you know self-implied this kind

of stress and pressure and and all that but it does feel real in some capacity but then of course you see the people and even like what Reese has done with Hello Sunshine and creating her own opportunities and i just i actually think we're in a really interesting moment where actresses you know margot robbie and all the women who have production companies and they're going out there and finding their own ip yeah and doing what she did with barbie and and you know mothering heights yeah and all of it i just think it's really exciting that now we can like go and kind of create our own uh producerial role in the movie something very bad is going to happen they it's all about you like playing on your paranoia and and and like superstitious and or superstitions

is that can you relate to any of that in your real life are you paranoid you didn't have anywhere to put my purse so i like held on to it while i peed just now i have like i have a huge tote bag because my mom was like in argentina if you put your purse on the floor you instantly lose money oh that's what everyone says to me by the way that's not true i put my purse on the ground all the time and look where we are yeah i mean look at this house maybe it happened that's why we're in the money pit yeah oh yeah that's right put it on the table i was in your powder room like holding onto the wall with my toe and i was like i can't lose money oh my god why don't you put it on the sink because it's a very tiny slot

oh okay yeah we gotta find up on the table in there thank you yeah yeah yeah yeah no we don't want to talk to the contractor anymore it's over by the way relationships are the most volatile relationships of all time it's it's do you know anyone who has a successful relationship with a contractor. No, no. I've had more contractor breakups and friend breakups and relationship breakups.

What is up with them? I don't know. It's almost like if you become a contractor, something else didn't work out. Because I don't know why they are so crooked and why they are so careless.

I had a good experience with my last contractor, but the first one's a nightmare. But I know. Maybe we should make an app like a contractor app. We vetted them. I love him.

I've met him. He does great work. Right, right. But there should already be something like that. It's called a fucking referral. you know when somebody like you know anybody when it comes to contractors nobody i had a great experience with my spanish contractors they were amazing yeah they were like on time early gave me

money back at the end of the thing i mean it was like unheard of yeah that sounds like what we're supposed to get with taxes right so are you superstitious about anything else yeah everything like salt um you know you can't pass salt hand to hand if it touched me hand to hand like it's the whole thing's going over the left shoulder um no umbrella and doors of course forget a staircase, splitting a pole. I don't do that either. You won't walk under a staircase or you won't walk up a staircase? Either. I have to be airlifted. I don't do staircases. No, I won't walk under a stair and a ladder. I mean, what else is there? There's so many. I mean, cheersing, looking in the eyes, all the things. I mean, anything, black cat, forget about it. I mean,

I've had a black cat cross me and I had to get out and do like this like ritual where you cross the car 13 times. Oh, I don't know. Somebody told me for my house to, to cleanse it, you know, to clean the energy, to get a bunch of monks here to pray, to change the frequency and the vibration of the house. And I was like, you have a really great experience with this. I don't really want to deal with a bunch of monks right now, but maybe they can come while I'm gone. Cause I'm never here anyway. Okay. We're going to get into the advice portion of the show where we give advice. Okay. So do you, I might get hypothermia, but I'm ready to give advice. Don't pass me this barefoot dreams blanket, the one that's behind you. Of course. Thank you. Give me an example.

If you can think of one of either the best advice or the worst advice you've ever gotten from someone. I mean like the idea of everything happens for a reason when something like absolutely terrible is happening in your life. I'm like, everything happens for a reason. It's like such horrible things have happened in humanity and history. I don't know if everything happens for a reason but i believe that there's a lesson to be learned from everything you do and i'm down to embrace that i don't know if that goes under the worst advice but that's just kind of like a platitude you know what i mean everything happens for a reason it's like it's like when people say it my least favorite saying is when people say it is what it is

what does that mean yeah what is that is it actually it doesn't mean anything what it is yeah that's pretty bad i'll put that up there do you want to cover your other arm up with that doesn't seem like you're i mean do you know how to use a blanket it doesn't seem like that What do you want me to do? Like this on the bottom? I'm trying to also like be presentable. It's okay. As long as your eyebrows are out,

you're fine. Give me my gel. Give me my gel. Your hair, your eyebrows is good. Okay. One side note to just tell you before I forget is my brain is short circuiting.

Um, um, wait, is there a cat here? Um, you love to work out in my grandma's bedroom. I'm just going to leave that there. ben bruno's home is your grandmother's bedroom his home gym is my grandmother's bedroom my mom

sold our house to ben bruno your trainer what who i still haven't met and my grandma would come from argentina because she's argentine argentinian she's argentine and she's argentine now and and we would like throw her in this garage room off the laundry that like didn't have insulation or like heating or air conditioning and she would be so happy to be visiting us and ben bruno bought the house and turn that into a gym, which you now work out of. Which is called the kitchen. He calls it the kitchen. Well, it was not the kitchen.

It's the garage with no insulation and heat. That is so weird. Isn't that crazy? When you said that, I was like, the only place that she could be talking about is Ben Bruno's garage, but I couldn't make the connection. Okay, are we taking a break and coming back? Yeah, we're back. Okay, we're taking a break.

Back to my brows. We're taking a break with Camilla Marone. Camilla Marone. Am I saying it right? Yeah. Camilla Marone. I think so. We're taking a break with Camilla Marone, and we're going to be right back.

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We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on its head, right?

How about we flip the script, okay? What if the surprise woman, who actually you think is the straight man, is actually the one who's acting weird? Adam Scott. This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never expect. Let go of that. I have. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen.

If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I am open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah. It's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. mm-hmm i was like is that weed nope it's fragile masculinity yeah ben stiller no because a lot of times in out of context people don't get it or even know what a circle is you know what i mean

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Brecken says my parents are divorced and my dad talks shit about my mom on social media oh that's great my mom doesn't retaliate but I know she's aware of it I've asked him to stop and he won't but my wedding is coming up and I don't want any drama should I disinvite him from my wedding if he won't stop yes Brecken yes yes yes yes oh see I was like no don't disinvite your dad that's why you're here we're having to have differing opinions let me just go first and then I want to hear what you say I first of all that is totally unacceptable to trash talk somebody's the, the, the father or daughter, father or mother of your child on in public or behind the scenes, in my opinion, like that's, you're the parent act like it. And that is a perfect reason to

disinvite him from the wedding. Why would you put your mother in that situation? You know, well, I'm sure your mother's going to be cool. Cause she's not going to be responsive to that, but you have to have a really long conversation with your father about boundaries and about what's acceptable. Okay. Now you go. I'm deeply triggered. Um, this is basically my entire childhood. Is it? I thought you said they get along great, though. Well, they're Argentinian. I mean, they, like, get along for, like, one Christmas, they're, like, best friends, and the next, my mom and dad are like, I won't

be there if the other parent's there. That's the vibe. And it's also always very dependent on who their partner is at the time. Sure. So, like, if the partner's like, I don't want the ex involved. So it's a very, you know, it's an up and down. It's been like a part-time job mediating between them for the last, you know, 20 years.

But I... Okay, well, that's very different than what you said at the beginning of the episode where you said my parents got along so well so i couldn't even play them against each other now you're here to talk to each other about important things like if like you yes they're in cahoots so like they'll do a check-in once you're like how do you feel like you know if i'm going through a hard time like they always talk to each other on the phone like yeah they do but they don't want to hang necessarily anymore but there has been times that they hung it's very up and down i want to know more about the dad posting on instagram is it comments or is he

doing like a grid post being like today he's on instagram is he on the grid post being like hey fuck you ex-wife like i'm just curious yeah like is it a grid post or is he storing it and does he like attach a photo of the mom but obviously he's like not over it and still love because like he's really adamant i have so many questions about the like just the technicality of the shit talking on but what you were instinctually you were gonna say that what that he should come i would have a conversation with the dad first you really don't want like your you want your mom and dad there if they can be so i would just sit down my dad and be like i would love to have you there but if you're going to be problematic i'm very happy to uninvite you so like if you

can control yourself you're super wanted if you can't then you're not coming and that's my bad yeah yeah yeah that's that's such a great way and then there's a there's like a really high probability that he'll like black out and like shit talk to mom at the wedding right you have to be prepared right well then you have to put like drinking limitations on the situation which is never fun for anybody yeah yeah yeah i mean i wouldn't go anywhere where they told me to limit my drinking but I'm also not problematic like that not anymore anyway not in this part of my life

they like pull reference clips of like all the times you've been pregnant just gonna put those right here Chelsea's ever said that's been carried out of it we're gonna call Jane Fonda she's gonna tell us the whole story alright Breckenwell you've got the language to use now

did you come on this podcast hoping to give advice is that why I mean is that the main reason oh my god I'm so good at giving advice and I'm so bad at taking it I love it. Me too. Exactly the same. How do we look, guys?

We look amazing. You look like you have cell phones on. I feel like I'm like, eh, eh, eh. Okay, so our first caller today is Caitlin. She is 32, and her subject line is, chat GPT broke up with me by proxy. There she is. So Caitlin says, dear Chelsea,

I'm not sure if this qualifies as a dating question or a how do I stop my life from falling apart all at once question, but here goes. A year and a half ago, I met a wonderful man while on an extended work trip to Texas. We did long distance, it went well, and last year we decided we were ready to move in together soon. He's fully remote and I was tethered to New York, so the plan was to make New York home. He's from here originally too. Then everything happened at once.

Before he had a chance to move in, I found out my job probably ends this year. Moving to Texas started to make financial sense. Lower cost of living, finally start a personal life after years of being tied to work, etc. Then in January, I was diagnosed with endometriosis, and surgery was scheduled a few weeks later. Suddenly, I needed one thing in my life to stay still. I couldn't face moving across the country away from my entire support network right after surgery in a red state where I'd also want to freeze my eggs while unemployed and potentially financially dependent on a man for the first time in my life. So last month, I called to ask him if he'd consider moving into my place temporarily just to buy us some time. The conversation ended with us breaking up.

He told me the romantic in him wanted to relocate, but Reason told him it wouldn't work. He'd apparently been consulting ChatGPT about our relationship, which told him two people can love each other, but sometimes timing and location just don't line up. I have a long history with abandonment and relationships ending because people didn't show up when I needed them most. He offered to come help me through my surgery because he felt bad about the timing, which I declined, obviously. It made me sad to say it out loud. I guess my question is, was I asking for too much or am I someone who keeps finding herself alone in hard moments and calling it independence? And Caitlin, I know you have an update about relationship status here.

Hi, Caitlin. Hi. Hi. This is Camilla Marone. She's our special guest today. We're happy that you called in. And yes, what's your update? We are back together.

We had a call shortly after. so we were able to kind of reconvene together and figure it all out I also had a therapy session and was able to chat with the therapist about like rationally just like my past and walking through all of that and how previously in relationships I've always kind of hunkered down and said I can take care of myself on my own so that was kind of the rationale behind us getting back together was like, I truly knew I wanted to be with him and give it a chance. I think I could possibly overlook the chat GPT thing. Yeah. I don't think that's it. How did you guys come about getting back on the phone? Like who initiated that phone call after chat

GPT prompted, told him to break up with you? I called him. Okay. And what was that call? Like, what were your intentions with that call to get back together? It was, it was to be clear that, you know, we needed to work things out and we kind of just needed to talk through a couple of things, like just understanding that I had a lot going on and that I think we needed to make one decision at a time realistically. And so he was open to getting back together? Yes. He was communicative in that, like he had said, his plan was that he would reach out again after I had my surgery and he would connect with me to try to make things right and figure out a path forward for the both of us. So he was very receptive to getting back together. I think it was his plan

all along, like after we kind of had that initial breakup conversation. But I think for me, like after talking to my therapist, I had said that I knew I truly wanted to be with him. I just was in this rush of decision making between having the surgery and feeling overwhelmed from that feeling overwhelmed from a ton of work being dumped on me because two of my teammates left. And, you know, I didn't know if my job was going to be intact by the end of the year. I just couldn't possibly make a move decision right then and there. And I just felt like hunkering down and breaking up was like the easiest thing. And when he said chat GPT agreed, I was kind of like, well, I guess then we have no other choice. Right? Well, first of all, I hate that fucking people to use chat GPT

for therapy. I hate that the people use chat GPT period, but you tell them to go to anthropic because chat GPT is like surveilling all of us or a therapist. Yeah. Or a therapist. Exactly. What am I talking about? Go to a different AI platform. But I think the overarching lesson here for our listeners and for you is when you are in a state of overwhelm, there are no decisions to be made like that. You shouldn't be making any serious decisions when you're feeling overwhelmed. You have to know that you're in a sense of kind of almost desensitization. Like when I'm so busy and so like, or I have a million things going on. It's like, I can't give my full attention to certain aspects of my life. And I'm just very honest about that. I'm like, listen, I can't,

I don't have the like bandwidth right now for this. I'll be back and I'll circle back on this in about a week, you know, like, and I think it's important to recognize that as women who feel like we can multitask everything and we can do a million things at one time, which we're good at, we still have our limits too. Like, and it is important to recognize when you're in those moments, you're going through a ton of stuff and going through medical, like personal stuff. that's no time to make a decision about your relationship yeah i was gonna say i have endo and i've been avoiding the surgery for since i was 15 so like you're really brave for going through it and it's very isolating and very lonely to have endometriosis and that's a really

particular thing to be going through during a breakup and it's already really scary and and makes you feel really isolated because no one really understands it unless you have it including doctors yep yeah and especially men that owners no they try yeah yeah so how are you doing now after the surgery my surgery actually hasn't happened uh it's actually next week it's next tuesday um he plans to fly out he's actually been really supportive and sending articles so it's interesting you say that it's challenging for men to understand i think while he's in the same state of mind that he'll never understand truly he's been doing research like reading through reddit forums and then also just kind of doing his own knowledge checking that's really

cute trying to figure out how to support me throughout the surgery see that's a positive use of the technology i like that that's what we're using yes spring flags that's right how do we understand this period yeah exactly exactly well great it sounds like everything's going great then i'm glad that you have this update and that you filled us in on that and yeah we need to be talking about these issues with men as often as possible because they lack understanding because they lack education about it you know endometriosis I have two other girlfriends who are like there's like they they went to male doctors who were like knew nothing about endometriosis which is ridiculous and like because it's a woman's disease or a woman's I don't even know is it a disease

yeah and even funny enough it's very hard you can't get diagnosed unless you really open up laparoscopically and do surgery so like you can get like a vaginal exam but it's like actually not guaranteed i like how you do this when you talk about a vaginal exam yes and same experience that's how they figured out it was endo for me was like doing this and then they did the actual scan and saw that i had a six centimeter cyst and it's probably a deep infiltrating phase because they said it was late stage so i hope you do also go get endo taken care of it's not something we should be dealing with. And I hope you're able to find a solution for yourself that works. Thank you. Good luck with your surgery. Yeah. Have a, have a good surgery and have a

good recovery. And I'm glad things are back on track with your man. Yeah. And tell him to stop going on shot GPT. Yeah. That's a direct quote from me. Reddit is okay. We've decided. Yeah. Reddit. Go on Reddit. I love Reddit. I appreciate it. Thanks Caitlin. Good luck. Okay. Thank you Oh, that's so funny. Cause I didn't know that you had, I also have endometriosis and I'm just like, sometimes these questions, like they just kind of, they find the right person. It's so funny how that happens. I know that happens. She never talked about it, but it's been such a big part of my life since I was 15. And you're scared to get the surgery. I have heard that it is incredibly painful, but mainly I I'm more, it, it grows back because it is scar tissue and it's

tissue. So, you know, there's a lot of, a lot of people that I've consulted with that have the surgery and two, three years later, they have to get it again. There's like an old witch tale that if you have children, the pain can reduce significantly. I've taken birth control since I was 15 to kind of minimize the pain and the bleeding, but it's the worst. And it's also so emotional. I remember the day that I got diagnosed and it was like I said, that vaginal exam. And I started crying. She was like, you do in fact have endometriosis. I was crying so much. Me too. My surgeon was like, so you do have endometriosis. And this is after seven years of asking doctors, including female ones, do I have this? And they're like, well,

he goes you have endometriosis I was like thank you I remember looking at my mom my boyfriend and being like I told you I'm not crazy like the pain's not normal and I actually went to the hospital my first period when I was 15 because I thought I was having like either pancreatitis church or like gallbladder or something or something and um I like you how you look at me as a doctor thank you yes it is pancreatitis but it's actually on average takes up to 10 years to diagnose so I will say for our listeners there is a listener who called in before who was dealing with endometriosis and she's got a very helpful Instagram account now called Kim versus endo. So go check her out. That's what Patricia Arquette sends me the like,

Oh yeah. She's like, if you have green herbal tea at 3 PM, you're endo. And I'm like, I think I need laparoscopic surgery with multiple scars, but yes, I will look into that sweet pea. Yeah. That sounds terrible also. Yeah. So I'm sorry, ladies. It's tough to be a woman. Well, let's get to this other question, which I think is also pulled maybe straight from your life. So our last caller today is Lee, and she says, Dear Chelsea, I'm a 36-year-old mother of two healthy daughters. I'm married. I have a great community. I had a happy middle-class childhood in the Midwest, and I still call my mom every week. All of this is to say I have a very full and fulfilling life. My question today is whether

I should open Pandora's box or leave well enough alone. Growing up, I was the only child my parents shared together, but I knew I had three half-sisters and two half-brothers from my parents' previous marriages. I was raised with two half-sisters, my mom's children, but we were estranged from my dad's three children because of beliefs and restrictions within their religion, a religion my dad left when he divorced their mother. The other siblings would come up from time to time. My dad might share an occasional story or something about my appearance or personality that would spark a memory of them, but these were never relationships I actively longed for or mourned because they were relationships I never really had. I grew up

with only a few memories of them. Now, with daughters of my own and parents who are getting older, I find myself thinking more about family, the bond between siblings and the connections that shape us. Some days I wonder if I should reach out to these siblings just to see what might be. At the same time, I hesitate. I worry about opening the floodgates to decades of emotions this might stir up for them and my father. So I'm left wondering, do I reach out and potentially open Pandora's box to satisfy my curiosity or leave well enough alone and focus on the wonderful family I already have? Sincerely, Lee. I'm a perfect person because I have two half siblings my dad had two more kids when i was 18 years old i was an only child so i was 18

they're like literally my dad met a woman on match.com and i have a 10 and 11 year old brother and sister for the first time in my life and do you feel like their mother or their aunt or their sister but i think what's i have lots to say okay hi hi lee hi how are you okay well you're in the perfect company okay you came to the best place because i know marone is our special guest and she has experience in this oh this is great good work yes so i was an only child so i was 18 and I was always very sad about it and wish that I had siblings and I would make up scenarios where I was fighting over pancakes with my fake siblings and my mom would have to separate us it was like very sad only child syndrome and I would like pretend I would be jealous of people who got in

fights with their siblings long story short my dad had two more kids when I was 18 so they're my half siblings and it has been the biggest gift of my life obviously you already know you're in contact with your half siblings but I would just say I always think and it's kind of sad about like when we are going to lose a parent which is inevitable and going to happen happen to us like i'm so grateful now that i have these other people to have memories about my dad with and to share stories and to joke about you know long after knock on wood he's passed and i just think it's it's why you know yes it's pandora's box but i think you're it looks like you're stable enough and emotionally mature enough to handle whatever can come your way whatever that might open and

what beautiful things may you learn about your parent through these other other that's a beautiful way to look at it. Yeah, I love that. Really beautiful. You might get some great stories and good laughs. Yeah. Why not? Yeah, I would love to have a relationship with them or at least explore the possibility of that. I'm just more concerned. Obviously, I know I'm the one with least amount of pain in the situation. I didn't lose siblings. I didn't lose a father. I just want to be sensitive to I know that they might have a lot of emotions wrapped up around this that I don't necessarily have. And I don't want to be selfish by, you know, trying to satisfy my own just genuine curiosity if it might open a wound for them. Do you know if they have interest

in communicating with you? I mean, it's been 36 years and they have not reached out yet. I know the oldest sibling had said when I was born that she did not want to have a relationship with me. Obviously, it's been a long time. So I don't know if, you know, they might be open to it now. But I think you can cover all of this in an email, like in a letter to them and be very sensitive with it, with exactly what you just said to be like, listen, I know this is sensitive. I want to be sensitive to your emotions and your feelings. I know you had some misgivings about me when I was born. I don't even think you need to say that because it was 36 years ago.

I mean, people hated my little sister the day she was born. She's zero. Everyone does. You know, my sister hated me for a long fucking time too. But you know, your situation's obviously a little bit different. I think you just go at it with sensitivity and love and just say, listen, I'm really curious. You know, we share a lot of stuff and I think we can make something positive out of this. But I also want to be sensitive to your feelings and your emotions and your experiences.

I know it's not like mine. And if there's any avenue for us to kind of get to know each other and spend some time together, I would really love to do that, you know, and just go at it with like full heart and like open arms and see what happens. You know, you have nothing to lose. Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. Like, I guess there's no downside. I mean, there's nothing to lose. There's only something to gain. So, you know, I hope they would be open to it as well. But I guess I wouldn't know unless I try, right? And they can respectfully decline. I didn't realize how different it was from my situation. But yeah, I mean, if you're not pressuring anyone through an email, through a clawed email, and you can just say if you're open to it. And if you're not, I also totally understand that. And I'm excited to hear back from you either way. And you might find that some of them are interested and maybe one is not or, you know, that sort of thing. And that's okay, too. You know, if there's someone who wants to connect, it might have an effect on the other ones in the future as well. But it sounds like you're having a ping and you're interested. So I'd be curious to see like what your intuition and why this is coming up. It'd be fun. Yeah, I feel the same way. It's been after having kids this past year, I've just really been wondering, you know, what are they like? What are their kids like? Are our kids similar? Just all these curiosity questions coming up that, you know, I would just love to explore and see if they'd be open to it.

Yeah, and I think you give them the option, you know, say that too say that you've had children like i'm interested In meeting you alone if you were open to meeting my children, that's an option I'm what like just make them feel like, you know, it's it's at their leisure and they're yeah The ball's in their court like you're open to whatever looks good to them Yeah, I love that. Anyway, so let us know what happens. Okay, I will thank you so much. I really appreciate it It was the encouragement I needed. Yes, absolutely I mean, you're lovely. So anyone would be lucky to have you as a sister.

Go for it, Leigh. Thank you. Okay. You got this. Good luck. Take care. Thank you. Bye.

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i really love this this is fun isn't it nice to give advice and talk to people talk to real people that you don't know i love that i didn't realize like how different this is but she was different if it's been thinking if she's been if it's been like really weighing on her in the past year it's interesting always when like things come up to you you know it's like when you're thinking about someone you reach out and they're like i was just i haven't spoken to you years but you've been on my mind so hopefully Lee will be reconnected yeah I hope so that's so crazy that you got two little kids like in your life when you were 18 years old that's so weird so weird and when my dad told me it was it was first a boy and then the second one came like a year later and it was

a girl and I was so unwell when he told me he was having a girl I was like then that means I'm not your only little girl and what if you love her like you love me and it was it was not good but now she's my best friend and does your what I know it's so funny that kids are so jealous of like well you can be like thinking that it's going to take your love away because my mom explained this to me once because I was like how can you love all of us you know and she goes because your love expands like with each child your love your heart grows bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and you just bring them all in and I was like but you have to love one of us more and she would just tell us I love you the most I love you the most and then I would tell my sister mom told me she's

like she tells me that every day the best thing about being an older sister is I'm like do you know that dad told me right before you came that no matter what he's never going to love you like and my sister's like yeah you know she's like i have taken making it my life mission to like torture them about how much he loves me and for 18 years it was all about me well he loved you for 18 years before they even existed so there you go yeah exactly you got the lead even having siblings i do feel like there there are favorites in the moment like i love them both to death but i'm like oh i'm really vibing with you right now actually i'm having a moment with you right now like it is interesting i think you're like oh you're really cool and you're in a cool age you

You feel more connected to one than the other on a certain day. Yeah. And also, like, men always say this to me when I ask them who their favorite kid is. Like, I ask men this a lot, doctors and stuff, like whenever I'm in a doctor's office. Yeah, doctors, the ones finger-blasting you. And I've gotten this answer now three times from men. It's whoever needs me the most. That's interesting.

I know. And I was like, because men need to be needed. Yeah, right, right. I was like, right. But women are very, very much, they don't like to say that there's a favorite. Men will say, yeah, I have a fave. I went with whoever's funnier that day, and whoever's down to hang out with me,

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