Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Bad Sisters with Sharon Horgan

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

  Sharon Horgan joins Chelsea to talk about big Irish families, the delights of divorce, and murdering your brother-in-law. Then: A little sister leaves her wife for a cheating ex.  A caller solves her own problem.  And a Type-A sibling frets about her baby sister’s pregnancy.   * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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had a great time and then we came home and now we're home and then i'm shooting my i'm shooting my special this weekend yeah you're going back home yes yes great i am so i'm going to a new wave i hear see and uh doug flipped out you know it was funny i was in the car on the way home from the airport and watching instagram and there was this video of this dog it was in new finland so it wasn't doug like a chow but new finland black new finlands look a lot like doug sure and the dog had the zoomies when his mom it was a video called mama's come mama's home and he the dog went nuts and nuts and nuts. And I, I literally walked in the door and that's exactly what Doug did. So it was like life imitating art. That's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. He went nuts. I mean,

he was airborne a couple of times just jumping over things. So that was exciting. It's nice to have a man who was just like, so excited to see you. And also when I don't put the pressure on the relationship with Doug, when I'm not like, of course I'm all over him and I want, you know, to be with him inside of him. But when I don't put the pressure on it and I let him do his thing, he is actually much more like he came into bed twice the night before last and last night he came into bed and that was so sweet like i didn't ask him to he just hopped up and wanted to cuddle i love that that's very sweet i feel like chow personalities are a little more cat like yeah they're very leave them alone they come to you yeah you have to leave them alone and you know i

didn't learn that lesson with burt and bernice but i'm learning it with doug yeah well this says i'm excited about our guest today she's responsible for catastrophe bad sisters bad sisters is in season two on Apple right now. So please give a warm welcome to Sharon Horgan. Who's a lucky duckling today? We are! Me! Oh my god, where are you? You look like you're, it's such a nicely designed studio room in a, where are you? It's the Ritz-Carlton. It smells like a Ritz-Carlton from where I sit. Yeah, it really does. It's 37 floors up, Which means your soup's cold when it gets here. Sharon, are you drinking a cocktail at 11 in the morning?

Or where are you? I wish I was. As soon as I'm finished this. Well, first of all, I would always recommend having a cocktail when talking to me. But I was on a plane yesterday at like 9 a.m. And this guy next to me ordered a bourbon and Coke. And I almost threw up in my mouth. I was like, why does it have to be a bourbon and Coke at 9 o'clock in the morning?

Also, that's not one of the designated breakfast drinks, you know, because mimosa is a breakfast drink. Acceptable. And a Bloody Mary is a breakfast drink. That's right. You could drink a bourbon at breakfast is Christmas Day when all drinks are all drinks are legal. Sharon, speaking of early morning drinking, I mean, you are Irish.

And isn't that where early morning drinking began in Ireland? I think so. That's what the scriptures say, the ancient ones. I think we're very, we are very good at drinking. I quit for nearly three years, though. So that was a weird sort of landscape to be in whenever I go back home. That was an odd one. Why did you quit for three years? Why? No, there was a good reason. I'll tell you why.

It was at the end of COVID and everyone's drinking had just gotten out of control, I think. I know, but three years is a long commitment. I know. I had like, in fairness, I had like, if someone got married, I'd have a glass of champagne and drink like half of it. I suddenly just became freaked out that I wasn't, like, if I had a drink, then I'd sort of get professional again. And we were just partying all through COVID. And one night I was, this sounds so middle class, I was shucking oysters and I put the thing, the

shucker through my hand I still had the scar and I was just like oh that's, oh fuck it and carried on with the night and then I woke up the next morning and I couldn't move my hand it was like blood all over my pillow and I went to hospital and I thought

I should probably just like chill, take a break, yeah just chill out for a bit and then you know the way if you're someone who is a bit, you know I just got really into it I got really into not drinking the way people who like to drink get into drinking. So I found that I was really good at it. And then, you know, I guess the novelty wore off a little bit.

Yeah, I think everything's good to experiment with for a few years here and a few years there. Sobriety included. I like it sometimes. I mean, sometimes I feel like I think everyone had a very similar experience in COVID, unless you were sober and your sobriety was probably challenged or threatened. But, I mean, there wasn't much going on. I took lots and lots of drugs, mushrooms, edibles throughout my COVID experience. I went to heights I had never seen before.

I just wanted to see at a certain point, like I just started experimenting with my own body. I'm like, what can I handle? Like, I felt like a Mack truck. I'm like, can anything take me down? But I want to make sure everyone listening, that's not for everyone. That's just for me. So, Sharon, I first caught wind of you in a big way with Catastrophe, which is still to this day you and rob delaney in that show was so fucking funny every scene in that show was so

ridiculous and so well written i was like who is this woman and i wanted i i have to do something with you at some point you have to put me in one of your shows because i just want to hang out and be stupid yes please do but and then she tops that off hang on didn't we ask you to be rob's sister i think we did in in catastrophe i'm oh no i don't know not that i know about Yeah, I think so. Well, next offer you, I just switched agents. That's probably why. Next time you have something for me, go to WME.

They'll let me know. All right, will do. But after that, I saw the next time, so you left that show. Sorry, how many seasons was Catastrophe? We did four, which is a lot for the UK. Yeah, and it felt like you could have done more, but probably wise to leave before, right? Yeah, I think that sort of stage of having kids,

we sort of felt like we'd done it you know we'd said everything we wanted to say about that particular era of having young children but like maybe we we always sort of talked about down the line whether teenagers or something we might revisit it it's different now though I think I think we both feel a bit like oh shit what do we do I'd rather write something new with him because we had such a great time I know and you could tell together it was such an unusual show for that time because it was very unique idea about these two people just hooking up not knowing each other and getting pregnant and then staying together which is just so crazy to even think about doing but your chemistry together you should definitely be doing more stuff together

it's so fun to watch as a viewer and as a comedian you know I don't find many things funny because I'm I guess I don't know why that is I get it I mean we were obsessive about the amount of jokes that had to be in it we were we were quite we had really strong opinions about how many jokes that had to be in per page and I think my sitcom background was funny really funny sitcom and Rob's background was stand-up and you know he's just a naturally one of the funniest people you could ever meet so we would sort of read it out all the time and if it didn't feel like there was a high level of jokes throughout we sort of we would get panicky and it was kind of the first one of the first things we thought about I mean character obviously but then it was just jokes I feel like

true comedians just care more about the comedy and then the character comes after and if there's enough like I know that's the opposite way of professionally like as any writer would look at anything they're always like no this character wouldn't do I'm like but it's not funny let's make it fucking funny that's what the relief is for viewers to really be laughing at something you know at the absurdity so you left that show you guys were done with that so for those of you who have not seen it, Bad Sisters is out season two, but please watch season one first

because this show, talk about original concepts and talk about great characters. I mean, I'm from a big family. I know, Sharon, you're from a big family as well. I love nothing more than sisters. I have two sisters.

Whenever we have sisters call into the show with problems, I am so sister positive. And this show is so fucking funny because there are five sisters, five or four? Four. Five.

Five all together, yeah. Five sisters all together. Okay. Five sisters who are all very different, who all, and they have one sister who has a total douchebag for a husband. And this guy plays this role to a T. I mean, he is repugnant.

He, like, you, you are, your vagina closes when you watch him talk. It's amazing, isn't it? It's amazing. Because he's a handsome man. Like, he's a, you know, tall, dark, handsome man. But he is, he absolutely does close your vagina up, like, as soon as he opens his mouth.

Totally. And so the sisters are all plotting together to figure out a way to get their sister away from this man. And then it becomes and it's also set in Ireland. So it's so beautiful to see and so refreshing to see another backdrop like that. just even the architecture and your houses and the design of being in a different country. It's just so refreshing from American television, you know, and art and American La La Land, our new fad, which I'm sure you're very well aware of, is everything needs this gorgeous backdrop. You know, it's got to be like a white lotus or perfect couple, like everything's in Nantucket. And it's like, I don't like that. That's not relatable at all. It's very real and gritty, is what i'm saying it is real and i guess you know there's an aspirational element to it and that

you know people want to be part of a big family and there's sort of a wish fulfillment that comes with deciding that you'll kill someone that awful there's plenty to sort of look at and enjoy but we always thought it has to look real like the women have to look real in it because if it's not real and if people don't believe this setup and these women and their connection they're not going to get behind them in the same way he kind of really had to get behind them every episode they tried to kill him so in order to sort of make that conceit work and and to to really feel like you were behind killing a man I think it had to be truthful as much as possible which is something I've always dreamt of doing with my own family group you know picking one of our like my sibling spouses and

just getting rid of them forever like that sounds like it's such a how did you come up with that concept oh well i can't i can't take credit for that so it's based on a belgian series called clan which was a marvelous same conceit i mean it was a completely different execution that it was way crazier like there was a lot more murders and a lot less uh you know collateral damage whereas i was kind of really interested in the emotional side of it you know and the impact that being in that kind of abusive relationship would have on Grace and on the sisters and they hired hit men and dead bodies ended up in dog food sort of factories and you know it was it was it was kind of OTT but the central conceit of of these five sisters and their bond and one of them being

married to a prick and just like we've got to save her before we lose her entirely that that already existed. So I was really lucky to get that. For the second season, I had to think it up myself. Yeah, exactly. So how did you tackle that? I suppose I was really interested in what would happen next. Like the end of the first season, I loved, you know, great, he's dead and they're back together and they saved her and she jumps into the water into the 40 foot with their sisters and and it was lovely but it was also kind of a fairy tale I guess a fairy tale ending for her and I think the idea of what would really happen and how someone as good as Grace would be able to just get on with their life after that like how the guilt would eat her up and also

you know someone like that who would have isolated herself for all those years and sort of would try and hide the kind of relationship she was in and how abusive it was wouldn't wouldn't be very good it like going to her sister's then and opening up if something if something else terrible happened so so yeah I just I actually felt it was closer to the kind of things I used to write you know like I loved writing the the first season and the thriller and the caper and all that but actually the the real true fallout of of being in a situation like that I found kind of easier you know naturally kind of easier to to dig into it's also great that you write all your stuff and then you star in your own stuff and you're a 54 year old woman I would like to say so I grew up

in this industry when I was coming up I'm going to be 50 next year when I grew up every not when I grew up but when I was coming up and all my actress friends were I had one specific actress friend who was like everyone becomes invisible when they're 40 like you are no longer valuable you will no longer be looked at the same way and I always thought no that can't be true like that depends where your value is coming from I thought exactly the same thing I thought exactly the same thing I remember my agent taking me out for lunch on on one of the visits to LA I used to make lots of pilots and nothing got picked up and and I started getting more and more like panicky and I remember taking him out for lunch and I think I was only like early 40s max and I was like this is

we we've got to split the time because very soon no one's gonna want to see this and uh but I think that must have been what I was seeing around me you know there was there is that huge jump where women just sort of disappeared until they were you know Judi Dench or Maggie Smith or it kind of felt like you could be up to a certain age where you were acceptable and then you kind of had to just fuck off for a bit and then you could come back when you were a crone and so I guess that's what I was sort of nervous about but I mean that's not entirely changed but it is I think it's changed a lot. And I think it's changed a lot. I think especially when we consider like where we are politically right now, the reason why men are so, you know, so scared of female empowerment and female success is because, you know, that's threatening to them. Right. Because we wouldn't be at this moment if they didn't really see women succeeding in ways that we hadn't been before. we obviously have way more work to do but it is it is a threat to this male white supremacy idea

that so many females are in charge of their own lives that are single that are business women that are creatives and in all sorts of areas of business not just Hollywood so exactly I mean when it comes down to it comes down to commerce all the time doesn't it and there was definitely there there came a point where you just couldn't deny the fact that um female content whether it was created by or written or starring was was getting watched by not just a specific demographic of women of a certain age you know I had this wide audience and somebody come once it once it comes down to that I think they have to sort of believe it yeah and women there's more women than men and women buy spend more money than men and we live longer yeah spending it for because we're

happier once the men are gone we can live even longer because it's less stressful for anyone who's married. You're not married though, right? You're divorced? I, I, I do. Yeah, I got, um, I got my, um, Congratulations! I was, I, um, I got my, uh, I forget

what it's called, Decree Absolute yesterday. Oh, wow! Thank you so much. You deserve a party! I know, I am going to party tonight. I have got a boyfriend there, and that's lovely, but it took so long. I mean, COVID came in the middle of it all, and all sorts of

shit and but it just came through yesterday I was sitting in a cab and it came through and it was just such a Nicole Kidman moment yeah that's wonderful totally how long were you married for how many years I can't remember uh no I think 15 or something 15 a while and you have two children yes yeah I have two amazing girls I've got a 21 year old daughter and a 16 year old oh nice oh that's nice and they're even almost cooked yeah it's handy now yeah they can look after each other yeah it's great I would suppose it's meaningful for you to be able to go and shoot in Ireland right it's it's huge I mean it's something I was looking to do for for years you know I left Ireland when I was really young like 20 and it took so long for me to get my career off

the ground. But when I did start filming, when I did start writing my own stuff, it was just something I was slightly obsessed with doing, like getting back there and filming something at some point. But it took a long time. Like it took until I was 50 to find the thing that that would be. But Bad Sisters happened to be the perfect thing. Because it really suited Arden because we all have big families. No one used any precautions. Everything kind of made sense in terms of setting it there but yeah I was thrilled and so when you let's go back to I like think this will be very important for our listeners since they're all women about your success you were talking to when you're talking to your agent in your 40s like okay time is ticking let's go

what when did you first experience your big first success my big first break I think was when I got my first sitcom made I mean before that I was doing you know writing a bit for radio and doing like some sketch comedy and that kind of thing but I think I was uh 38 I love that I didn't get successful until I was 32 ish was when I really started to like people started to know who I was but many years led up to that but people call into this show all the time thinking and be and these are 20 year old girls worried about when they're going to realize what their passion is it's like, oh my God. Oh, listen, it frustrates me so much, but it's the same even with my own daughter, just seeing her, my eldest girl, like stressing out about not knowing what she wants.

And I was like, Jesus, I was working as a chambermaid, a barmaid, a waitress, working in a job center, selling bongs, selling power showers. I did all of that right the way through my twenties into my early thirties before I figured it out. If I really try, then I can probably do this thing that might make me happy um but yeah I remember someone saying to me when I was uh in my late 20s saying very very straight and truthfully going if you haven't made it by the time you're 26 you're gonna make it and I was terrified at hearing this piece of wisdom because I was like well I'm screwed then but well you know I there's a part of me that kind of things I wish I'd pushed myself a little harder you know I wish I'd sort of had the confidence to

to step out and try and make it happen sooner but at the same time I'm really grateful for everything now like everything is a bonus you know and and also I had so much more to write about there was so much like living in low-level accommodation not having a pot to piss in all those terrible jobs like otherwise I don't know I just feel like I feel I feel like it sort of rooted me and gave me something real to to write about and to draw on so I should be grateful for that yeah and I think there's so much more of a groundedness that comes with success later in life not prematurely I mean we see what happens when people become successful prematurely that's not a recipe for anything positive I mean they're they're ruined aren't they they can't I mean I

know there's exceptions but for the most part yeah they're weirdos yeah they are and I I mean I always look back at my 20s and I like when anyone calls in from their 20s I was like I drank slept with my whole 20s was just craziness and crazy behavior and thank goodness like I had all those experiences the same thing that's where I got all my stories from you know that's how I started writing books and started doing stand-up and and started learning about storytelling and what makes a good story, you know, and, and all of those things are invaluable. So it's like, I know, we're always eager to get to the success part of our lives. But part of the road, you know, the road getting there, and this always sounds annoying coming from an older person. I know.

But it is the ride. It's the ride to get where you're going that gives you all of the juice, so that when you get where you're going, you have tons of fucking material. Exactly. That's it. Exactly. I mean, my 20s were gross. they smelt they actually smelt on that note we're going to take a break and we'll be right back with sharon horgan there's no shortcut for saving time but saving money is simple just combine your car and home insurance with bel-air direct and save get a quote at bel-air direct.com when i was 14 years old i was kidnapped and held captive for nine months I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them.

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Yeah, I am. Wow. We have a very sister-centric, almost exclusively sister-centric episode today. And in real life, Sharon, I need to know how many sisters do you have? I've got two sisters, two brothers. My sister is one younger, one older. And what number are you out of the five? I'm the second eldest. Okay. All right. Well, before we go into questions, there was something that we wanted to get talking about what's the craziest thing you've ever done for your sisters,

a time you covered for a sister or the most outrageous thing you did to protect a sister I asked my sisters that this morning I just flew in from Raleigh North Carolina where I saw pink last night and I was I knew we were going to talk to Sharon about and so I texted my sisters and they reminded me I'm the youngest of six kids and my sister was getting divorced and I was going on safari and there were five of us I think and we had room for one more and I was like oh Simone you should come with us on safari she's like africa it's two weeks she was moving into her new house i she got a divorce so i bought her a house i want to just throw that out there um which which i would do again in a harpy and i which i also ended up biting her in the ass

because the house she's like i don't need a house like this this is too stupid and too big and she's like and now i have to live in some house you designated for me so yeah think twice when you're buying homes for people but anyway I said come to Africa and she's like okay Chelsea but I have to be home by August 15th because we're moving into the new house and I was like no problem the trip was going to go to August 20th but I just was like whatever I'll just get her movers she doesn't know what you know she doesn't have to go back for the move but once when she got there she assumed like you know that I had gotten her ticket to come home on August 15th and I was like I just went along with it until it was like august 14th and i was like by the way you're you're actually not going

home tomorrow you're going home on the 20th and she's like chelsea this is exactly why i don't trust you like you can't just this is not based on your desires to be around me i have a responsibility i have to move my three children into a new fucking house i'm like please we'll hire movers for you we'll make your ex do it that's the least he could do he's the reason for this divorce and so she didn't want to stay she wanted to be responsible she had her three children i convinced her I was like it won't be the same if you leave like we're in Botswana like when are we gonna come back here this is the trip of a lifetime and I said I called my brother-in-law my ex brother-in-law and I was like you have to step up this is you're gonna have to move them into the

house that they're moving to get away from you I was like that's your responsibility but she never forgave me and she doesn't trust me now on making any travel plans because she thinks I'm only out for myself and that I can't be trusted. And she's not wrong. I'm totally out for myself. Was the rest of the holiday good? Was it worth it? Oh, yeah. She had a great time. We had a blast. I mean, she had the time of her life. And I'm like, you can't come to Africa for eight days when you could stay for 14 days. You know what I mean? We're in Africa. When are we coming back to Africa? Turns out we went back like two years later. But who knew then what was

gonna happen so yeah so that was an extra outrageous thing that I've done for my sisters what's the most outrageous thing you've done for your sister like nothing nothing oh my I was thinking like I'm sure pretty sure I held her hair out of the way when they vomited but like so you know I don't have I don't I mean nothing I've got no big story like that That's extraordinary. Thank you. I don't even know what to say to that. I mean, it doesn't sound like you were doing it for her.

No, it doesn't. It doesn't. I always think I'm going in for these things in an altruistic way. And it turns out I'm only trying to service myself. So Allison says, Dear Chelsea, I've had a complicated relationship with my sister all my life. She's two and a half years older than me. and for the most part, we didn't see eye to eye until about 14 years ago when her life fell apart and she moved to the city where I live to start over. It was then that she seemed to make family

a priority and get into a better place in her own life. She met someone and ended up getting married. She and her wife relocated to another state and began fostering children. Over the last few years, they adopted four children who are now all under the age of five. Over the years, she continued to take on more and more with her wife's family, her job, each adopted kid, and even additional foster care. Our family kept warning her that she was doing too much, and then a couple of months ago, she called to tell me her marriage was over.

She had not been happy for the last couple of years, and she rekindled a romance with an ex who cheated on her. She's now trying to expedite a divorce and move in with her ex. She plans to move straight into her house. I'm so disappointed on so many levels with her. She worked so hard to build this family, and now she's just throwing it all away.

She's digging in her heels, which is probably why we didn't get along for many years, and treating her wife, my sister-in-law, like trash. To make matters worse, she has a drinking problem and has even begun taking amphetamines lately to lose weight. I'm at a total loss. Should I just let her destroy herself and her life or try an intervention?

I'm grateful to be communicating with my soon-to-be ex-sister-in-law so I can maintain a relationship with the kids. Should I just leave it at that? Allison. Oh, my God. Allison. Jesus, what a hot mess. Hi, Allison.

Hi. Hi, this is our special guest, Sharon Horgan. Hi, Sharon. Nice to meet you. Wow. That's a lot. It is. Feels pretty reckless. Where are all the kids? They're with her ex? Yes. They're all, believe it or not, still under one roof for the most part. They haven't legally separated, but right now my sister spends a lot of time with her new girlfriend. And do you and your sister talk a lot anyway? No, not for how long? Well, we were up until this happened. And then once I found out like how quickly she was moving, how fast she wanted to go straight into this new relationship, you know, how she wanted

to force my sister-in-law to move to Texas because that's where her girlfriend is. You know, I just felt like. Well, good luck with that, by the way. Good luck with having your girlfriend in Texas. Exactly. Oh, jeepers. She sounds pretty unstable in this moment. That's very accurate. And I think when people are in that kind of maelstrom of emotion like this, and they're using drugs, and they're trying to lose weight, and they're newly in love, and she just kind of ditched her family, is she spending time with her children at all? She is. I mean, when she's there, but now she's spending extended periods of time away. So she'll go for 8 and 12 days to go stay with her girlfriend. feels like to me your relationship with her ex and maintaining a relationship with all of her children is more of a priority than doing an intervention because I feel like an intervention needs to happen at the you know like it's not going to be well received in this yeah she's not

going to listen to you in this moment she's in love she's all over the map and she's using amphetamines like there's not a lot for you to grab on to there right now and I think it is paramount, right? Do you want to maintain a relationship with her children? And her ex probably could help with the support emotionally. And I would think you're better, your time would be better served focusing on them. Absolutely. No, my sister-in-law has been very open. She understands that I've been, you know, critical of both of them. I don't think it was all my sister's fault. And I knew that they were both making really bad decisions along the way that led to this but I just kept pleading with my sister like get therapy do something first don't

feel like this is the answer that's going to change your life because we all know that it's not and was she always someone was your sister always someone who like was very sort of steadfast in the idea of being right do you know what I mean is she that kind of a person yeah I would say because she came out in pretty early in life. She came out in eighth grade and this was back in the 80s when it was not acceptable. I grew up in a very traditional Catholic family. And so, you know, my parents didn't know what to do. And it was almost like even back then she dug her heels in, became very rebellious. You know, she wasn't going to listen to anyone. And pretty much ever since then, that's been her approach. Like, I'm going to make you accept me type of attitude.

yeah this is all weirdly familiar to me not through my sisters okay but you know in terms of someone sort of moving on with something else and that being their absolute focus and deciding to themselves that this is the absolute right thing and this is what I should be doing and and not really listening so when you're kind of dealing with someone like that it's sort of best to sort of get out of the way a little bit. I would just save the intervention for when she's in a different place. Don't blow that right now because she's not going to she's not going to hear you right now. So I think you should wait it out, maintain the relationship with the children, try and be there. Are you in close proximity to those children? No, I'm also in Texas,

unfortunately. So I should get out of there. First things first, you should get out of Texas. I'm trying. I'm actually I'm headed there this weekend. So it's funny I'm saying that because I'm doing stand up there. I'm doing three shows in Texas. So I guess I'll bring my water gun for protection. Yeah. But yeah, I would just try and I wouldn't interfere with her life right now. I would focus on the kids and that maintenance and her ex and maintaining a relationship with her so that you have access to those children and that they have some stability, even if it's you FaceTiming them or doing family Zooms once a week, just figure out a way to like extend yourself to them during this time? Because it's probably really difficult on them, too. Absolutely. And

at first, when my sister-in-law and I started talking, my sister became very angry. And of course, she accused me of betraying her and things like that. And I don't know, she tried to force me not to talk to her. And I just said, look, that's not going to happen. Like, no, no, there shouldn't be like boundaries. But that's not helpful either. No, to not speak to someone is not helpful. The whole picking sides thing is like just a quagmire. Can you spend any time with them? Can you go and spend time with them there? Yeah, actually, I'm going at Christmas.

We just found out her dates when she's going to be gone. And so I'll go while she's not there. Perfect. OK, well, that's good. Yeah, I would prioritize that in the meantime. OK. And then wait for an opportunity, you know, wait for a moment of vulnerability or a moment when her life really does get carried away, you know.

but with people who are always defensive and want to be right you know they're as long as you're like arguing a point you're in defense mode because if you're an open person you can actually hear anything anyone says without being defensive and so until she gets there there's really nothing for you to do that's really true well hey what's your what's your sister's new partner like i mean I don't know. I haven't talked to that woman in 14, 15 years since she broke up with my sister the first time. And like I said, the only thing I know about how that relationship ended was she cheated on my sister. And so I don't know what she's like now or what she's been doing all these years, but I just feel like I know my sister needs therapy. She desperately

needs to figure out what these demons are that have made her so unhappy, even with all the things that she's accomplished in life. And so running to someone else is not going to make her suddenly happy or fulfill all her life dreams. There is like something I'm sniffing out here too with the willingness to sort of dive into this chaos, the drug use, the alcohol use, that like maybe there is some mental illness, maybe there's some just like emotional dysregulation. I don't know what else you can do about that other than to keep saying like, I love you, let's try therapy, that sort of thing because obviously throwing that at her is not super helpful but just for you to maybe have kind of in the background of like maybe she's using this to sort of like

help regulate some of this emotional chaos that she's feeling yeah yeah and also just talking to you obviously you're coming from a place of judgment you know what I mean you're disappointed in her choices and blah blah blah and that's never helpful with that personality type you know you have to really come from a place of love and support like I know what you can do I know your potential. I know you're going to do the best you can. It's almost like you're flipping the script to try and make them believe in themselves a little bit more because people like that, you know, everything you're describing sounds like she is masking a lot of stuff. So as long as you can try and really not pass judgment on her behavior and rather be a support system for her and someone

she feels safe coming to so that you can kind of build that trust back up and hopefully that can lead to something? It's obviously hard because I love my sister-in-law. And yeah, I know it's your sister. Believe me, I'm so judgmental. But, you know, I care about the kids and I have been divorced before and I know what that does and how it tears families apart. So I did try to a little bit come from that angle of like, look, if you don't want to be married anymore, that's one thing. But like, figure that out before you just go right into something new. Absolutely. Well, keep us posted with whatever progress is made. OK, let us know. All right.

I will. Okay. Thanks, Alison. Thank you. Bye. Bye. I can't believe people are still living in Texas. A lot of them.

Sharon, aren't you so happy you're not American? I really am. You know, it's not great in London at the moment either. I mean, honestly, it's, I mean, all over the world is a bit of a shit show. But Ireland, Ireland's not bad at the moment. no Ireland sounds like a great place to are we moving possibly I mean I just want to go to an island where there is not going to be any no one's cares you know some tropical place where no one's we're not going to be involved in any of all of the shit that's happening globally yeah maybe we

could man make one you know or or buy one together like pool our resources I am I've talked to my friends about my female friends about this a lot like I really I think the future is some kind of commune of some kind for me conversations I'm having all these conversations with my female friends I mean every different group of female friends says the same thing like why don't we all just pool our money together and you know buy some property yeah or some Ireland that's why not people are happy there they're happy they're drinking and happy when do you get to experiencing those things together well our next caller is taylor she is 36 dear chelsea it is taylor swift it is 35 oh yeah oh you just got that tucked right away dear chelsea my sister and i

were never close growing up but became friends as adults we now have lived in the same city for 10 years and over those years have felt like good friends we have sister dates without the husbands run errands together and try our best to stay connected recently i've felt a shift in our relationship. I've always been the one to initiate our hangouts. That never bothered me as being the planner of the family has made me, that's been my self-appointed role. I had a baby this year and have had less motivation and time to arrange hangouts and now I don't hear from her sometimes for weeks at a time. It's become very apparent to me that I was really the one driving the relationship. I'm afraid to talk to her about this. In the past, I've had to have a hard

conversation with her about not wanting to babysit her dog anymore. He marked in the house. that conversation went pretty badly and she didn't speak to me for a month i'm really feeling her absence but i just can't get myself to address it with her do i just accept that maybe things have changed and that's okay or do i need to get over myself and talk to her no matter what the outcome is chelsea you have sisters please help taylor hi taylor hi taylor hi this is this is sharon horgan our special guest today too what an honor you have to you have to talk to your sister actually there's been an update and i apologize

i'm coming from my car i just left an acupuncture appointment that's okay so yeah i sent that email a few months ago and my sister and i've always had a very good strong loving relationship but as sisters go, there's been ups and downs as we've gone through life. Honestly, it's just gotten so much better. I'm going to admit we never chatted about it directly. But my daughter turned one a month ago. And a few months ago, it's like she started reaching out and we started doing things. And so yeah, I don't know if it was just like the beginning of baby stuff and we needed some time or what but you know there's ebbs and flows to a sibling relationship it's it's a lifetime relationship right so and when you have a baby you're so you know exposed and emotional

and sensitive and it's the only time I've ever fallen out with my sister yeah and we had to do I mean and it was it was wasn't a long-term fallout but it freaked me out because we're so tight and and in fact I always felt like my female friendships are so important to me but I would kind of sideline them a little because my siblings were just everything but I was very shit around about the time she had her second child her daughter and I just wasn't around I think I don't know what was happening like marriage stuff and work stuff but I was just not very present and and I was just being a bit useless and she was so hurt by it you know she really really felt it and and was having a hard time herself and we it came to a point where like she she was like I

don't think I want to be around you at the moment and I was just like straight on the phone we we hashed it all out and was really tricky you know because you kind of have to you know swallow a lot of pride and say a lot of sorries and I just own up to the fact that you were being a bit rubbish but I'm so so glad we I'm so glad we did it it was scary it's scary when you think you're gonna fall out with your sister yeah your sister I mean I can't imagine not having a sister like she's my most one of my most important relationships but yeah to your point I think so much changes when you have a baby and there's a lot of raw emotion and you want this need to be like every all the women in my life stay close to me. But at the same time, you are busy and things are kind of

falling apart and you're sleep deprived. So it was almost like we just needed a few months to kind of like, find a new routine. And I feel like we've really gotten there. And also don't forget when you have a baby, you know how hormonal you are and how sensitive that person is like you're overly sensitized to everything and every and a small like infraction can feel like a big one. And you So you have to like allow yourself that. But for future, if you guys have any issues and this is to anyone who's listening, I don't believe there is any ego involved with your sisters. Like it's not like a friend where there's some sort of gamesmanship or you don't know where the other person stands. You know, at the end of the day that you love each other and that you have years and years of proof of that. so like if you're feeling distant from her there's nothing wrong with going I miss you I need to see you when am I gonna see you I love you I miss my sissy whatever however you talk to each other there's nothing wrong with that I'm sure that probably would have put a big smile on her face

too you know like oh you know sometimes you don't realize how much distance I mean my sister just crashed my my weekend this weekend and she's like you know we haven't spent time together she's like you're always with Simone my other sister she goes you know we haven't spent time together like this in months you're oh you know you see Simone all the time and I was like but she invited herself on the trip she's like I'm coming with you from Brooklyn I was doing shows all weekend she's like I'm coming to all shows and I'm sleeping in your hotel room with you and I was like okay and we had a great time I totally relate to all of that I I remember that feeling of being jealous when one sibling would spend more time with another like feeling so hurt by it and and you know it's

usually circumstantial or for geographical reasons or whatever but it's there's always like smaller allegiances within a bigger family anyway you know like the eldest and the youngest of a special thing and like my brothers have a special thing and then us sisters and but yeah god i remember that terrible feeling of of FOMO you know feeling like you've been left out some kind of sibling get together it's more FOMO than jealousy like you're not really jealous of your siblings spending time together. We're all part of the family. Like I don't own them and they don't own me, but you know, my sister invaded my weekend. We had a great time. We slept in bed together. We giggled our asses off. We had our cousin there and it was totally fun and great. And

that's how you have to act. You know, if you're feeling a little bit, it's not like somebody you, it's not like you're in a romantic relationship and it's new and you have to tiptoe around them. Just be upfront and be like, I miss you. I want to see you. I need to bond. And I think it's also as the planner, it's also okay to be like, I don't have the brainpower to plan something right now, but I want to see you. Can you plan a little outing for us and like put the onus on her and have it move forward that way? So Chelsea, you're talking about having a trip with your sister. My sister and I and my daughter, we traveled down to see my grandmother. My sister and I stayed up one night talking to like 1.30 in the morning. And we, again, we didn't like address like, I miss you.

But it was like, oh, this is like what we needed. Since then, it's been really great. So, so good. I'm glad everything's improved and have fun and, you know, good times ahead. Good times ahead only. I told Catherine this. The world is very scary right now. America is very scary right now. So holding your family and your community and your friends like so close and really focusing on that kind of positive love that you get is like now what I'm focusing on. So no matter what, my sister is wonderful and she's empathetic and caring. And I'm like, I just have to, you know, we just had to like figure out our new relationship with the little baby involved. Yeah, absolutely. And that is your fault for having a baby in the first place.

So take some responsibility. I really, why did I do this? One day you'll find out. But thanks for calling. Yeah, thanks for calling. Have a great day. So nice to meet you. Bye.

It's so nice when they figure out their own problems. I know. I love when we have callers that are like, oh, we were going to call in with this, but we've already figured it out. That was way easier than the last one. Okay, we're going to take a break and we're going to come back

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How bad is my advice? Is it like... No, it's good. Listen, I think the most important advice anyone could give is being a good listener and you're a good listener. So that's all. That's half the battle. You know what I mean? Actually care. Listening to people's problems. That's it's nice. You know, it kind of takes everything away from yourself. So I like this activity. Yeah. Well, our last question comes from Ariana.

Ariana's subject line was, how do I stop stressing that my baby sister is pregnant? Dear Chelsea, I'm a 27-year-old living 600 miles away from home fairly intentionally. I'm the eldest of three girls, and I definitely identify with the pros and cons of being the high-achieving, controlling fixer of an oldest sister. My middle sister and I have been slowly growing closer as we've gotten older, which brings me to my current problem. My 23-year-old sister has made a fetus with her 20-year-old boyfriend. They've been together for about a year and are, quote unquote, definitely keeping it. And I'm holding so much stress about this.

They've moved in with my parents and I feel the stress and anxiety that caused me to want to get out of there. I know that so many young moms find their way and none of this is to say that she can't be a great mom, but I just don't believe two kids, basically without jobs, should have a baby. So how do I get over this?

Thank you, Ariana. First of all, this has very little to do with you. So you're a control freak, you're a self-identified control freak. I'm here to confirm that you are. There's nothing you can do. She's pregnant. Is that what she means by fetus, I'm assuming?

It's not in a freezer? Oh, it's not like on the rocks. No, no, no, no. They made a fetus inside of her. The cat's out of the bag. The freeway. Oh, that's done. Yeah, so she's not going to convince her

to get an abortion, you know what I mean? So how do you let it go? You have to actively surrender the idea that this is within your control. It is not within your control. You have no say in this matter. This is not your issue because it affects your family. It will affect you, but you still have no argument.

You have no, what's that duck in this race? Horse in this race. Horse in this race. You have no duck in this race, okay? You can't, there's nothing you can do. So you have to just understand, you have to really understand that you are not in control of everyone's destiny. The only thing you can control is your own behavior and your response to things.

And I would work really hard on trying to be supportive rather than being combative about this because it's already happening. There is nothing you can do. And if you can exercise restraint and the idea of letting go of something that is not your, it's not your thing to control. So I don't know what to tell you, but you have to really understand that and also move forward in life understanding that as well. You don't get to be in control of other people's lives. Sharon any any thoughts there I don't know it sounds like she's more sort of worrying about her parents having to you know get involved in in in the baby's life and do the looking after so like I kind of get that a little bit but yeah what are you gonna do but I mean totally but what's she gonna do the parents already let her move in with her boyfriend or husband is it the husband or boyfriend boyfriend boyfriend they'll have the baby they'll probably break up in a few years and then they're gonna have to clean up their own mess and your parents already allowed them to move in again not your decision like you're not in charge of everyone in your family

you're not going to force your sister to get an abortion are you no you're not going to force your parents to kick your sister out no so I would throw my hands up and look at a different direction to see to find a situation you can have an impact on and I think Ariana's like kind of on the right track of like she knows it's her own thing to deal with so I would get a therapist so you can gripe about this like no it's it's not your problem it's not your responsibility to help them learn these lessons either. But the other thing too is the boyfriend is probably going to go away at some point,

like you said, but when there is this baby and this baby actually does come into your life, you're going to be like, holy shit, I love this little niece or nephew. So there will be like a good outcome of this. That's really hard to understand until they're physically here.

Exactly, exactly. It's true, it's true. But it did, I was the first person in my family to have a baby and wasn't planned in any way. but I remember bringing her home and my brothers and sisters just like, it's a mental image I have in my head to this day. Like all of them just crowded around this tiny little thing. It's in the middle of my parents' bed and they were, they immediately like fell in love and I've been obsessed with her ever since. That's pretty undeniable. Like, you know, once somebody in

your family has, and you obviously care about your family. So I would really start to just focus on the positive impact you can have on them moving forward in the future, rather than trying to prevent what's happening from happening also you live 170 miles away or whatever so yeah 600 yeah find it find a new family if you want it's so bad if you can 600 miles is that bus what did you say 600 miles 600 miles that's a different country that could be it could be canada who knows well there's nothing 600 oh 600 miles i was like 6 000 there's nothing in this country that's 6 000 miles away okay me i'm a geographical wizard and a mathematician in case okay well i can't wait to see season two of bad sisters sharon horgan i can't wait to see i can't

wait for you to see it too and i'm so excited i i i love you and i'm so glad we got to do this me too i've been an admirer for years oh likewise and i hope to see you in person one day soon so we can have a cocktail together now that you're back on the sauce can we just do that i would Maybe even a morning cocktail. Yeah, preferably in the early morning hours on a flight. Just drink some bourbon at 9 a.m. Okay, we will. We will, Sharon.

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