Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Boomer Apologist with Iliza Shlesin…ger

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

Iliza Shlesinger joins Chelsea to talk about facing online backlash, why you can’t have a good hookup twice, and why she chose THOSE pants.  Then: A neighbor’s misnomer may be stuck that way.  A screenwriter wrestles with a blank page. And a trans man struggles to accept the way his in-laws treat him… even though he doesn’t own a ladder. * Order a signed copy of Chelsea’s new book HERE! * Check out Iliza’s new special, A Different Animal, on Amazon Prime! * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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my head, but I really didn't. I just thought, oh, it doesn't matter what number I am. I'll be grateful to be on the list. And then I was number one. And then I thought, my God, it happened again. This is my seventh book and my sixth number one New York Times bestseller. Hell yes. So yes, hard work pays off. That's the truth. Yes. And you have been working hard. You've been making the rounds. You're everywhere right now. And it's really exciting to see. I'm currently in South by Southwest. I'm in Austin at South by Southwest. I feel like someone drugged me three days ago because my head is so unclear. I'm not sure what happen. Yesterday, I didn't even have a drink. I had four panels, and I still feel like someone

drugged me. So I'm like, maybe I did drug me and forgot. I was going to say, if anyone drugged you, the most likely culprit is you. This is true. This is true. Well, congratulations. That is so exciting, and I'm so happy for you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, everybody who's listening. I hope you've ordered my book or you ordered or downloaded an Audible or whatever, but get I'll have what she's having because it's going around. And I have my European dates up. All of my European dates are officially up now and for sale on ChelseaHandler.com. And I'll be in Vegas March 21st for a live new brand new stand up show. March 21st and April 19th are my next two Vegas dates for our fans. Well, I'm so excited about our guest today. She is so fantastic. Oh, yes.

This is a comedian. So you're in for a good treat and conversation and a female comedian. Someone who I have known for years, but I've never really... Oh, no, I used to have her on Chelsea Lately all the time, but I haven't seen her in years. Anyway, she's hilarious. And her name is actually pronounced Eliza Schlesinger. Schlesinger. Fuck.

It's Eliza Schlesinger. So, and she has a new special out. So everybody, please go and watch that. You got to support female comedy, guys and girls. And you've got to see these pants. and you've got to see these fans. Please welcome Eliza Schlesinger. I have a rule about hot food on a plane.

What is it? You can't bring hot food. I hear that. Because everybody can smell it. Right. I mean, hard-boiled eggs is a cold food. Ew. Yeah, you know what?

It's just visually gross, but I guess they don't smell. It's not like sulfur, but the idea of it is gross. But I think there should be more than just, it shouldn't just be hot food. There should be a list of things that are not tenable for a flight.

A no-fly list. You know what I mean? Because hard-boiled eggs, perfect example those could be fine in a container in a ziplock container but as soon as you open the seal then everyone is exposed to that yeah so you need to swallow those whole whole or like the yeah mario 2 is that gonna vibe with anyone who listens to this remember the egg creature that would spit out the eggs okay i miss that game remember when times were so simple that you could play super mario brothers i used to get up at my friend's sleepovers we would be like 10 11 years

old and i would set my alarm i don't know why i was traveling with an alarm but i would get up at 10 early like got sets so that i could get on the mario super mario brothers before the other girls at the sleepover woke up because like it's like no no i'm already on you can't push me off i just got a schedule so obsessed i miss being that obsessed with something oh i feel like we are obsessed and we don't realize it like now it's just called an addiction oh the phone you mean oh yeah social media i have to take it off i have to take it off every day and put it back on yeah where do you take it off of i take it off my phone and then i can take it off of your phone Take it off Instagram, and then I have to do this walk of shame where I scroll back

to find the password that my social media manager keeps for me. But rather than ask her, I just have it stored away. Like, I'm lying to her. Like, it's somewhere in my phone, and I just go and I get it. And I just erase it every night. Sounds like you're lying to her and to yourself. I am. This is so lovely, Carlos.

Oh, my goodness. Carlos, you're so—that makes me want to have a coffee, and I don't even drink coffee. Yeah, and you get a little snack and everything. To have my snack. I'm not going to have a snack. With that little cookie? Yeah, I like that. This was so European.

It feels like we're at a nice hotel somewhere far, far away. Sure. I would love a coffee. Thank you. Okay, first of all, Eliza Schlesinger is here. She has a new special out, which is fucking funny as shit. Thank you. It's called The Different Animal.

Are you the animal, or is the special the animal? Both. I'm the, I was just, I'm, it's different. I think I'm different. I think I wanted to create something different. I have to say, first of all, your house is so beautiful, and everyone knows you have so much money. Why does everyone think I have so much money?

I don't understand where this comes from. Look at these archways. It would never occur to me to redo the arch, like, doorways. I walked in, and you're like, I watched your special. And then for a second, I was like, oh, no, she saw an old one, and, like, she thinks it's the new one. Someone sent you a link, which is, like, peak Hollywood elite. No other podcast had a link. And I'm like, yeah, because you have people that get the links.

That is so funny. I mean, you got a sneak peek. Nobody has seen this. And so I'm blown away. Okay, well, as the first person that's officially seen this special, besides, I'm assuming you, or maybe you haven't even seen it yet because you don't even have the link. I can forward you the link if you want. I want to say, A, you're very prolific as a stand-up.

This is your seventh stand-up special. This one is on Amazon Prime, everybody. And Amazon and Hulu are getting into stand-up specials. So, like, those are good places to watch them, too. And everyone now has Amazon Prime, I'm assuming. I guess not as many people as Netflix. But it is prevalent and pervasive. I say that in pervasive.

Amazon itself is pervasive. But you have such a talent. Oh, thank you. You really do. You really have a great... My stand-up is very much storytelling and personal storytelling. You have a very clear talent

of structuring jokes, premises, punchlines, which you even talk about in the special. You mention in the special. But I love your focus on the different generations, about millennials, because I don't even know what am I. You're Generation X. X, X.

okay so it goes from generation x then millennial you're hoping i'd say gen z i'm like oh god i hope not no they're so fucking annoying gen z so then gen x no i'm x it goes well if you go youngest to whatever it's alpha which is what my child is or will be uh gen z millennial millennial millennial millennial elder millennial which is what i am generation x baby boomer silent generation and then our forefathers okay so i just know that i'm not a boomer so i'm the generation after the boomer okay i really i mean and also when you look up generations it's like sometimes they say oh 11 to 15 years and then sometimes it's a decade and it's there's different um definitions of it all but never mind that you in and you're especially you really delineate what the differences

are between all of these with a lot of attitude and anger towards towards younger generations That was the working title, Attitude and Anger. We're not picking up the baton after you guys, after millennials just like laid out everything for future generations. They're just like, wait, what do we do? First of all, I would just like to go on the record and say, boomers are the worst ones because they ruined our planet. And they did.

Well, they did. They had a lot of babies. Can I say something? Are you a boomer apologist? I'm not a boomer apologist. She's an elder millennial boomer apologist. I have to say, there's this thing, I wrote about this in my book, like, when you accuse a generation of something, like, what are we expecting? That boomers are going to collectively come together and be like, we're so sorry.

When we all have those Amazon accounts, like, we all Postmates stuff, we all order stuff from China overnight. So while they may have laid the groundwork in terms of, like, disruptive oil practices and stuff like that, like, we contribute to it with every frivolous purchase, with every sheen haul. boomers didn't invent that so they laid the groundwork but the perpetuation of it is definitely on all of our shoulders especially generation z what is a sheen hall a sheen hall is where you buy a bunch of clothes from sheen from like fast fashion and then you try them all on and then you kind of throw them away but they were going to dissolve anyway and that like rose to popularity in the pandemic so you'd get people that weren't really mindful didn't really i guess we're ignorant to fast fashion and that like sheen and h&m are like the number one pollutants of fast

fashion on this planet so you would just order like 50 pieces of clothes for like a dollar and you try them all on and then maybe you throw them away you know or something like that and so that's that's what a sheen haul is okay i thought you were gonna say then you return everything because you don't want it no some would say that's even worse for the planet because then it's going back well anyone who's doing that isn't caring about it doesn't care about the planet anybody who's ordering a bunch of clothes trying them on and returning them is not or keeping them and they go nowhere or you donate them but nobody wants them because they're so cheap every podcast i do like i go back to like sustainability and people just like turn it off go back to justin baldone

it's like that october 7th let's talk about oh yeah that's the last time we saw each other right after the at a jew event right after october 7th but can i can i you came i invited you i put on a benefit and and they were like who else can we invite and i was like i have chelsea handler's email and I don't think she knows I have it and I emailed you and you wrote back and you came and that like elevated the event like I tried to already like we had tried to have some cool people there but like we don't know each other that well and the fact that you were like yeah I'll be there I was just like that was such a cool moment where you definitely did not have to answer that email and you definitely did not have to show up and like I felt like anointed

into like a cool comedian hall of fame that's just you and I well I'm glad I went yeah I went I'm glad you came too. Okay, so I don't want you to have to talk about sustainability, but we can talk about shower sex. Let's talk about shower sex. Let's talk about shower sex. I want to know who is having shower sex. This is a topic that Eliza covers in her special in a hilarious way,

and it's kind of calling out all men who are stupid enough to believe. I don't care how hot your relationship is or how new it is or how horny you and your partner are or you and your thruple are. You know, I don't want to discriminate. Maybe you have more than one lover in a group. But no one wants to fuck in the shower. It's not fun. No woman.

It's not sexy. No. It's not. And your penis, no one can feel anything also. Nobody ever talks about the fact that you can't feel your penis inside a vagina when you're in the shower. When you're stressing and like this idea that like, oh, let's have shower sex. I'm like, we're not two gay guys at a crunch on like a Thursday. Like we're not fucking in a shower.

Why do people? That's another thing I want to discuss. thank you for bringing it up it's like you have espn why are people fucking at gym like gay men specifically i know some gay men who specifically go to the gym just to give blowjobs in the sauna i don't understand giving a blowjob but i understand i feel like if you're a gay guy it's like extra testosterone so it's like at level 10 all the time and you're like i gotta get it in because most men would like my husband is like you just tell me you just tell me when he's like I'm always ready and so it's like it's that times two you're like thank you I didn't know that I'm

like I know but the showers it's just more like you following me in here thinking I'm turned like I'm here to shave my armpits and like give the illusion of a bikini line and you followed me in I guess we have a bench in here one person is always cold one person's always uncomfortable the lube gets washed away perhaps in your like are you suggesting that you use lube in the shower I guess you should. It's actually the opposite of a lubricant water. Have you ever tried to fuck in the ocean? It's the same thing.

It's the same thing. You can't get it in and it's like you need, actually you need a lubricant, but who's going to bring a lubricant to the beach and into the ocean and then lubricate when you're underwater? It's just all anti, it's like counterintuitive. You have a whole contingency of like mermaid fans that are like, actually, I find aquatic sex. I think it all just speaks to like a woman's comfort. not being taken into account and when you're in your 20s you're just like yeah i'll do that it's

hot but like you're not loving it no like and you're cold and you're looking down at your feet which your toes are spread apart so you can get a grip and you've got like chicken feet and your hair i have curly hair and so the whole time i'm just like do i look like the monster from barbarian like which is like does it or does your husband care answer no he doesn't care what i care and if i don't feel hot then it can't happen and then if i do feel sexy i'm like i'm too busy taking a picture of how hot i look to have sex right now is that why you wore those pants during your special to show people how hot you are you need to explain those pants to me you don't like them well i'm not gonna pretend that i do i mean you have you have an incredible body and i like that i like that you

i like that you show it off and i understand that but those pants i was just like why yeah why i don't i don't tell you why because i can and i think as a woman i think the more come on in Carlos come on in Carlos bring that there's no reason you shouldn't become part of this podcast this is so cute this is so cute I didn't even know this was available in my own home it's so continental that's how rich I am you guys I didn't even know I had a cafe she just met Carlos she didn't even know he was here uh I saw I'm and I love I love a fun pant and the pants that I wore on my last special yes I remember a similar outfit it's a similar silhouette and I didn't mean to fall into it but we all you know you dress for your body type

what's your body type well the thighs are like i started doing pilates so it's different but i don't know strong core excuse me one second i don't want to cough over you apparently i'm allergic to coffee you don't have a strong core okay go ahead you just figure by i mean it's just i don't know i don't like to wear a skirt on stage because i move around a lot like there's just things that you that you find empowering and people were so upset about the last pant and i was like no those pants are fire these pants i was scrolling through a rave party wear a website as one does when they're trying to conceive a child um i had had my daughter and i i don't remember if i had just gotten pregnant with ethan or we were thinking about it

but i saw those pants and there was something about him i was like those do you ever buy like an article of clothing and you're like i don't have an event now but i know i will does that ever happen to you or do you have someone dress you oh god no i know what you mean i know what you mean i saw them and i was like they're just i like that they had the micro flare like i just I was like, that's something aspirational. So I bought them. And then I was pregnant for a full year. And then I just worked out every day with those.

Like my trainer would be like, hips, pants, pants. Like think about the pants. And I just, they reminded me of Cher. Like turn back time. And I just know that there will be a day that I shouldn't wear those pants. Right. And I just thought that they were cool enough while not being super distracting. Do we have to iron out the bulkiness of them in Photoshop

because they don't lay right because they're made of cheap plastic? Maybe. But I just was like, these pants will upset enough people and enliven people, and it'll at least be a talking point. Yeah, well, you're right. It is a talking point. So good for you, Mazel Tov. Thank you.

I thought they were just cool, and I just liked them. Well, I like that you – it doesn't really matter if I like them or not. it matters that you take a risk and are like you know stepping into your own power and like I'm gonna fucking wear these pants that's all that really matters that's what I mean and also I do feel empowered in them and I do it's like an extension of who you are on stage and I also think I come from a generation of stand-up and I definitely was a huge part of this like just wearing a hoodie on stage I think there's a I think there's a video of you of like at the ice house like 400 years ago and you're wearing a hoodie right like I feel like we women weren't

encouraged to do that and now I look at younger girls and they're just like in a bra on stage and they don't think about it and I think that that's great and so I have to push myself to be like no you can wear these things you don't have to cover up and you can just be yourself on stage and so when I do large shows I feel do you when I came up I was always trying to play down my looks and be more tomboyish and I've never really like I've never really worn a dress on stage or a skirt on stage like even when I used to wear heels on stage I'm like this is so annoying like this is not who I would ever be in real life but did you feel like you had to dial down your looks when you were coming up I think it's something that people talked about but I like you can't be funny and

pretty so cool it with the pretty oh it was more normally it was an accusation like funny and pretty like what's the catch and you're like I don't know you're really ugly so this is obviously what's the catch I have herpes that's the catch I'm funny and pretty and I have herpes I'm dying I am a tomboy like I always grew up wearing big t-shirts and not really you know you maybe you wear a tank top to a college bar when you're out but on stage I just was always comfortable as that so I never went out of my way but I always felt like remember I wore white ripped jeans on stage at the comedy store in like 2011 and I had a bad set and I was like must have been the jeans we'll always dial it back and there is as a woman when you come on stage if you do have a good body

and you're dressed sexy or it's revealing especially if you're unknown it does take the audience an extra 90 seconds to get over it and I was always of the mindset like nope I need to get you right up top because I've got something to say and I only have these eight minutes but as an adult I try to take more time now yeah and wear secret hands I mean you do jam a lot of material into an hour yeah and I don't mean jam as a negative I mean you really get so much bang for your buck with every sentence every joke every premise you it's very full-bodied thank you I like full I like that it's very artistic I appreciate that artist and us in in in the form of stand-up like that's very very well done thank you Chelsea Handler that means a lot I do I was

watching some of Ali Wong the other day and she's very deliberate and she speaks we'll say slower than I do I mean most auctioneers do and I was watching that I was like I could have gotten two hours out of this like if I just did like a long pace if I just spoke like every other comic and just took my time she does speak slowly I was like there's an art to this I gotta slow down and I won't have to work as hard to write like I can just have two hours out of this one so doesn't it feel like stand-up feels like such a hustle right like it is you're constantly if you're a stand-up comedian and that's your main vocation I mean obviously we all have ancillary things we do but like if that's your main vocation it is constant fucking hustle traveling I feel

hustled and I do hustle yeah it is I mean you're a real stand-up you get it like it's not like something that you picked up once you became famous which a lot of people do I don't think people fully understand like especially when you're an artist versus just a joke teller like when you actually do bleed for this and this is something that you that is you're married to in a sense, you are the engine. And I was actually thinking about that on the way over here. Like if I don't write, if I don't push myself to work out and to write this, there's no one writing it for me. There's no studio calling being like, we're going to put a team together. What's your next thing? If you don't write your books, if you don't create these things, especially when you're

a funny woman, because no one can create the funny for you. People could of course write you some jokes, but like the engine is me. And when I take a break, like there's no one knocking at the door, like are you done taking your break yes I'm sure people would prefer I just take the break forever well it's you're completely self-reliant there's no like there's no safety net yeah right like the mortgages are in my name but that's also kind of a nice thing that conversely there's like a flip side of it which is you're not really answering to anybody but yourself yeah I think so yes because I can take those breaks I can take that vacation but I do feel that we've I think we're coming away from it now but we did get to a place in in comedy where you were answering to a very loud

minority on the internet and that's those are the people that were canceling people people that had nothing and were angry at you for trying and those voices got amplified so i was never answering to them but you there was like a stutter step especially as a woman because we're expected to be kinder and empathetic at every turn meanwhile guys are like oh yeah i got this underage handjob and it felt great and uh yeah maybe women shouldn't be allowed to read and it's like oh more of that please and i get up here and if i'm like oh yeah i chose to have two kids it's like why didn't you have three do you hate women who don't have kids and you're just like all right you're constantly having to answer for what you have done and haven't done as a woman and i think

that we're swinging the other way where now you can kind of just make statements and not have to Well, now that Trump is pregnant, now that he's been pregnant for quite some time, but now that Trump is president, I'm sure all that political correctness, everything's out the window. Something else you talk about in your standup is, which I think is so great, when men congratulate other men for impregnating their wives. Like when Eliza's husband's friend or stranger, usually stranger, right, finds out that you're pregnant, especially with a boy, especially they love to know there's a boy in the world. But men will. There's it's the weirdness, the dystopian weirdness of standing there while one man congratulates my husband, not me on the pregnancy. I'm like, he played the smallest part. Like I am doing all the work. and it's like, congratulations, six seconds, well done. And you're just standing there, it's super Handmaid's Tale,

and you're just like, well, I was just glad to receive. It's not their party. And what are they congratulating each other on? Seriously, though, when you think about it, it's like, yeah, way to go, fuck your wife and get her pregnant. Way to go. Way to go, because men love to know other men are having sex. Two guys at a bar, if a guy leaves with a girl,

a guy will just high-five and be like, nice job. Women are like, don't go with him. that doesn't feel safe like we don't want anyone having sex yeah we want and men are just like just however you got to get it in and it's it's primal and it's the way they are but i uh i want the congratulations as well have you did you have sex with a lot of car did you have a lot of boyfriend comics no ever no none you never dated a comic i did but so long ago and i kind of just stayed out of it but a big reason i did and i think you can probably relate to this i became a headliner so early in my career so from winning last comic standing yes and so that was like 25 and so that's

the time of your life where you are looking to at the time mostly men who were in positions of power for validation to take you on the road and it's not that women always sleep with those guys but that I didn't need that from a man and I certainly didn't want to date a co-worker or someone who was less funny or successful than me. So that pool was pretty much shot. And I think men, you know, you try to date a male comic who doesn't do as well as you, they always get jealous. So I just never, it was never my dating pool. I'm trying to think if I made out with any of them. I don't even think so. I once had sex with Tom Rhodes. Do you know who Tom Rhodes is? I just canceled on a lineup he was on the other night. Oh my God. Oh, I was like, did he do something? Was he

canceled? He's very nice. He's a sweetheart. I once had sex with him. He's good looking. Yeah, he and yeah he is still good looking he came up to me we were at the an airport lounge the other day and he uh american and he i was with my cousin and he was like hey chelsea just wanted to say hello and i just thought he was he shook your hand i thought he was a rando like i just thought he was a fan or something and i said oh hi nice to meet you he goes it's me tom rhodes and i'm like oh hi like because i i did fuck him many many years ago in san francisco and it was one of those great experiences where you have a kind of fun one night stand like I never really dated that many comics I mean I know I dated Joe Coy but that was like post script of like comedy

coming up time and he's one of those comics I had sex with and when he walked away Molly's like who is that I'm like oh this comic Tom Rhodes I had sex with him like many many moons ago and I didn't say moons ago because I don't say that but I remember having a great interlude with him we had sex we had a fun night in San Francisco we were fucked up drinking and whoever who knows whatever else and then we tried to reenact it in la and he like a couple months later is this after you were you or is this before your i was coming up i wasn't no i was like you know starting out and i think i was opening for him at the san francisco punchline probably like i was probably the opener there was a middle and and he was um the headliner and so we ended up having you know

a great night on our last night of the week and then we tried to recreate it in la and i met him at the comedy store here in LA and it was a I think I got my period like it was one of the worst hookups ever you know what sometimes you just have to leave something alone like never speak to just because you have one good night with a person doesn't mean you should ever see them again it's like when you go to a really good restaurant when you're on vacation don't go back there the next night because it was so good the first night it will only disappoint you I feel that way with like an entree I'll be like I want to order another one yes or like this like you can never have two egg mcmuffins like the first is so delicious yeah no i love egg mcmuffins i

love them instant diarrhea what they need to do is make egg mcmuffins a little bit bigger when we went through covid i had my housekeeper i'm like just go stock up on as many egg mcmuffins as possible because i'm not gonna be able to go to mcdonald's and i fucking love egg mcmuffins stock up stock up freezing them well yeah i was freezing them and they are not as good when you freeze them no they are turns out fast food doesn't last nothing got me off of them quicker than freezing them i'm like these are not good at all you know what else will get you off of them having two on like a regional flight in the northeast you're like you lost me a regional flight it was my dressing for years when i when i was first traveling my you know get there to the

airport and i was like okay i never eat mcdonald's but this is my my allowance at the airport i'll have it and then one time i had two never again yeah i definitely agree with you about the um sometimes you have these wonderful moments like the sexual encounter and it's just and no one's jealous it's not weird and i feel like women so rarely get to have those where you're like i don't even want it again i don't want to date you like that that hit the spot yeah and even though i didn't get off like that was still great yeah thank you so much you don't need it again and it's a good lesson to know like for our young listeners it's a good lesson to know just because you have a great night with somebody doesn't mean that you need to have another great night with

them like sometimes it's okay just to like read a good book and let it go like you don't have to keep rereading it I did I will say you don't know who this person is um there was a a total power reversal I was playing somewhere I'm not even gonna say the city or anything and it was it was a cop a younger comic that i had known forever and i they'd open for me rent like guest sets at this in this city and i'd see them every few years and he came over and he just went down on me and i've never shared the story and it felt so powerful because normally it's the other way or you have some weird sex and i just let him and it was great and i had to leave early the next morning and i was like you can eat whatever you want out of the mini bar i gotta go and i just

after you're done eating me out you can eat whatever you want out of the mini bar and it was great and I and it was and I felt like a real headliner and it just it's like a nice memory and I never really talked to this person but like yeah that was nice of you to let them do that yeah that's what I think that's nice to let somebody go down on you like that's the way that women should be viewing that that's a nice thing to do for another person it's not it's not necessarily all about us it's like well that's also like you know friendly yeah you're gonna love this and and it felt like powerful and cool and it didn't feel like anyone's taking advantage And then it was weird because that person brought their family to see me two years later.

I'm like, here's some tickets. No problem. Like a nice relationship. Did you feel when that happened and they came back around with their family, did you feel any ick at all? Nope. Like, oh, no. I keep in touch over DM. And he's like, hey, my family's coming.

Can I get tickets? I'm like, Andy's a fan. Great. Of course you can have tickets for your sweet family who also has to go down on you. How did you meet your – every family member needs to go down on you. how did you meet your husband that was him no um I met him on Raya oh really a Raya success story have you been of course yeah lots of different sex on Raya different like countries I find Raya to be great for like when you're in the UK or New York or like it's a nice hot spot and it

and it and it gives you a I mean now it's opened up a little bit more and expanded more but when I was using it a lot, it gives you a more, what is the word that I'm thinking of? Continental. More continental buffet. It gives you more of a grouping of people that are actually a little bit slightly elevated than what you're going to find on like Twitter. I mean, not Twitter, sorry, Tinder or like Hinge or whatever. It's just like a little bit more of a guarantee that you're not going to find curated. That was the word I was thinking of. Thank you. Not the unwashed masses. Well, you know, people will grimace at or bristle at that. But like if you have a public profile like if you are a celebrity at all you can't open yourself up to just going out with

whomever and so for the longest time for me like I was never so like I wasn't famous enough that I was like at Denzel's Denzel why would we fine Denzel Washington oh my god or like I just wasn't at famous people's houses but I was famous enough that I couldn't just pick up a random person so you would rely on like friend recommendations you know i dated someone i knew in college and you just would find these people sort of natively and then raya came along and so it it wasn't necessarily other celebrities but it was like verified like oh i'm an artist too like i get it so you don't leave yours because it's a vulnerable thing yeah to go out with someone well of course of course especially when they you know yeah especially when you are a celebrity and

they know who you are and you're like putting yourself out there i'm i'm of the ilk that you just let go of all of that like who gives a fuck you know you're gonna walk around being this person in your real life regardless so when people who are friends of mine are like how could you go on those sites I'm like easily you know I'm trying to get some action right you're also at this like who cares like I don't care if they know that I'm on this site that doesn't bother me right especially not now I think like the stigma of online dating is completely gone everybody does it it makes a lot of sense you can't go out every single night but I do think you know when you're younger you're just trying to like sort it out and you don't know what someone else's intention is

right when they go and then you bring them to your house or you go to like it's just weird but i did meet him he was not a celebrity and i was like who let you in here but he was just so funny and so easy to talk to and then that was that wow i was his first raya date he was like i don't know like my fifth or something like i hadn't been on it that long and it just worked wow he was so lovely and that was like day one and like that was it and so what kind of artist is he he's a chef oh but he's a um i should have brought you a book he's a cookbook author and chef and and a writer and so he writes a lot of you know articles freelance but he is a chef and cookbook author that's cool it was cool and when i met him he was he had opened you ever are you a regular eater or

do you eat not eat meat or anything no i'm a regular regular person he was the opening chef for blood so's barbecue on labrea okay which is like an la staple yeah and he has his cookbooks He writes cookbooks. He has one coming out. Do you ever eat at Found Oyster? You're very far west over here, so I don't know. Yeah, I know, but I've heard of Found Oyster. I love oysters.

So Ari Kollender, he wrote Ari's book, and that comes out called How to Cook the Finest Things in the Sea. So he's the guy that he's got James Beards Award. He's the guy you go to if you're like, I want to do a cookbook. He will capture your voice and write that with you and recipe test. That's such a nice, refreshing vocation. It's great. In this town, especially.

Yeah, he's not like a fake chef. Or a photographer or a producer. I mean, photographers at least can, you know, take photographs, but producers is a little bit of a gray area, as we all know. Okay, on that note, we're going to take a break, and we'll be right back with Eliza Schlesinger. There's no shortcut for saving time, but saving money is simple. Just combine your car and home insurance with Bel Air Direct and save. Get a quote at BelAirDirect.com. when i was 14 years old i was kidnapped and held captive for nine months i survived and i've spent

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My God. Well, our first Blake of the day. He says, Dear Chelsea, I'm a 31-year-old trans man who lives in northern Ontario, Canada. I grew up very liberal where being who you are was not a crime or shameful. And now I'm married and I've been with my wife for almost six years now. She comes from a very conservative Christian home and her family took a while to warm up to me. they never came to our wedding because it's a sin quote unquote and they don't agree with our lifestyle they still aren't on board with us to this day but then they claim to love us and all

of that fun stuff people say should i continue to be the bigger person and continue to just visit them like they haven't done anything wrong i don't know what to do hi hi blake hi blake i think it's the carrot at the bottom next to the microphone. Got it. That's one millennial helping another. Just doing what I can. Hi, Blake Lively. How are you? I'm good. Thank you. How are you guys today? We're so tired of hearing about you. Okay. So your wife's parents, they know you're trans. Correct. And that's the big issue. Yeah. When her and her ex-husband split, he got mad and he went and told her family about me doesn't matter were you guys having an affair no so how what is he why i'm confused why was he even in the picture just a jealous ex yeah but if

you weren't in the picture then how did he know about her how do you already know about this story before i started dating and then he was like well i'm still bitter about this oh so he went because i'm in ontario with nothing else to do i know what i'll do i'll go fuck up her life because she left me it didn't work I had a micropenis and are they they're nice to you other than what you're talking about like is it civil when you're when you see them yes it is civil it's just the fact that I know the things that have been said and I guess that's just the bitter aspect of it where it's like you've never apologized but it's also I shouldn't have to carry that I guess yeah no I mean, I always have a different kind of feeling about this day to day.

But I just feel like as long as you can be civil with each other, it's kind of an opportunity to demonstrate love and kindness. That's exactly right. And to just be like this great person in their lives and show all your great qualities and not judge them for their ignorance. That's right. You know what I mean? Because I think you can get a lot farther with that attitude. I am always like fuck off shut it down if someone is an asshole then but if they're not being abusive to you if they're not being nasty to you to your face anyway who cares what they say behind

your back that's really not your business anyway you know what I mean yeah that's on them I think because it's easy for us as like heterosexual people to be like whatever big deal but like you also carry whatever comes along with being trans and what you think the world thinks of that and the way that you either are treated or perceive that you're being treated like there's a weight to that if someone says anything to you you're always going to be wondering is it because i'm trans in the way that we're like is it because i'm a woman is it because of my color is it because of this whatever we all have that and i think you're absolutely right it's your chance to show them all the kindness and love that the queer trans whatever community always preaches and it

definitely hurts it hurts your feelings but you want them to feel so bad that they weren't the kind loving Christians that they talk about when you leave. You want to be, and you don't have to be fake but you, don't let them take away who you actually are don't let them decide for you that you are all the awful things that they've decided

you are or trans people are and you just keep demonstrating it and if they want to be man enough to say it to you then you can have that conversation but I think a lot of times we come at people with very charged, with anger when they have an idea about who we are and then we end up proving that

and this is a chance to sort of deflate some of that ignorance like prove them wrong basically yeah i mean what do they think they just the knock is that you used to be a woman and you're with their daughter that's the knock it's not that you're a bad person they can and they they can't handle that it is a foreign concept like gay we've all sort of wrapped our minds around but it is if you consider where they're coming from like that's a lot to take on you are probably the only trans person they know i was yeah oh is there another is your wife now trans what a plot twist um no uh it's just a small community that they live in there's others that have come out of the woodworks i guess you could say since you know we live in the woodworks but

yeah i'm still like the only one they personally know though i this is the only one fucking their daughter yeah that's right that you know of yeah i i sure hope so this is your chance for them to be like i know my son-in-law's trans and he's great yes we token is we do with everyone we're like well i've got a filipino friend she seems cool so they all must be i've got a jewish friend and they don't seem awful they all must be this is your chance to like show up and be like look how fucking dope yeah and just right like be rise above that you know what i mean their problems are not your problems. You should just, it's like almost like anything, any feelings or opinions they have about you is just not even part of who you are. It has nothing to do with you. You want

to move through the world and move through your relationship with them just as like a nice beacon of light, as like a joyful reprieve from the rest of their life so that they're slowly understanding that you're just like anybody else, that you're a real person with real feelings and real emotions and without an agenda you know what I mean but really don't get stuck on what they're saying or what their attitudes are as long as it's not hurtful or sorry not maybe it's hurtful of course but you know as long as it's not abusive or they're treating you in an unkind way just keep pushing through because I think you should carry with you like you're speaking for lots of trans people you know your interactions with them are emblematic of of all the trans people in your

community so like fortunately keep that in mind but i find that rather than having that be some sort of onus though it kind of gives you a sense of purpose it's but by the way you don't have to do anything extra but you're their son-in-law you know what son-in-laws do they call up they're like hey you need to borrow a ladder like you're their son-in-law so like and the good news is you don't have to worry about anything because like men don't do anything like do you have a ladder i have a step ladder no you're a grown man go get you a ladder i think you need to get a real ladder I just hire people so I don't need ladders Okay well then hire someone to bring them a ladder

I think is what Eliza is saying Or next time you go to their house start knocking on Studs and be like this is a solid wall Just start trying to fix things in their house Be like can we readjust this door Bring a level Just start seeing if everything Just start critiquing all the masculine stuff

And then you take the stud finder and you put it to your own chest And you're like found one That's literally what I can do Okay Well, I mean, that's one step in the right direction. Just be above it. Thank you. Yeah.

I have a question for you. Are you guys affectionate in front of her family? We don't hide it. We don't, like, make it something that we try to hide or flaunt it. Like, we're not trying to do something that's not us at the same time. This holiday season, it's time to amp it up. And the holidays are right around the corner because we're in March. Yeah.

So get ready. Plenty of time to prepare. Yeah. A lot of caressing. A lot of neck kissing. Just let them know. On the ladder. You want to do all of this on the ladder.

While critiquing everything, right? Yes, yes. Just be a man. Okay, okay. But you know what we're saying, right? You got what we're saying, Blake. With all of the toxic masculinity going around on the news right now, I think I can convey some of that.

Thank you. Great. That's the answer. We love it. Make Ontario great again. You know what? canada might be the best state if it happens guys welcome number 51 don't worry chelsea already has a place here so it's not even like she really has to move right it's not like i'm even emigrating

i'm just like going from one canadian passport i don't i have a house in whistler canada but i don't have a passport she won't need one but i can marry a canadian if i have to but i don't need to marry a canadian no yeah everyone knows always like before the election i was like oh you can just moved to Canada. I'm like, I have a feeling he probably thinks he's getting to invade Canada and take Canada over. Like Canada is not far enough away. I don't think he can get that tan up north. He can't get it here. It's not a real tan. It's from a bottle. But we don't sell it here. So I don't know. Well, especially if it's American made, you won't be. RIP Tito's Vodka. Sorry about that. Anyway, Blake, good luck with everything.

Thank you so much. Congrats on your relationship. And I think you're going to I think you're actually going to be a great example for your in-laws and that whole family to, you know, open minds and expand horizons. Well, thank you. I appreciate everything, guys. OK, thanks, Blake. Bye. I couldn't resist taking a bite of that.

It was like calling my name. All right. On to our next Blake. Oh, this is Blake. Back to back, Blake. Back to back, Blake. So our next Blake is 28. He's here in L.A.

he says dear chelsea i need some big sister energy and who better than you after over a decade of producing unscripted content spanning editorial tv commercials presidential campaigns and the wild west of social media i'm ready for a change i've worked for iconic brands across the condé nas portfolio produced for hillary clinton and stacy abrams and even helped applebee's snag a can lion feels like his linkedin bio seriously dude i mean you know he's got his bored back there. But despite all this, I've hit a wall of unfulfillment. After a layoff in NYC, I moved back to LA and landed a job in programming management at a live streaming giant. While I'm grateful, I've realized I want to return to my first love, producing, specifically in scripted

TV. Cue a mentor's advice. If you can't find the project, create it. So I started writing. Work that began as a cathartic way to process a breakup. Yes, I Taylor Swifted the shit out of it and reflect on chaotic work situationships, imagine a flirtatious gay CEO in advertising, harder than it sounds, has turned into something I'm genuinely proud of. I've drafted two stories, one rooted in raw gay emotions,

the other dripping in Dewey High Camp, and I have shocked myself by how much I love this creative outlet. Here's where I need your advice. I feel this pull to pursue writing and producing scripted TV full-time, but the thought of freelancing and giving up financial stability,

hello student loans, terrifies me. Everyone in L.A. seems to have advice, but now I'm stuck in analysis paralysis. How do I take the next right-sized step toward a career I'm passionate about without losing myself in the process? How do I balance humility, creative ambition, and the rent checks? With love and kindness, Blake. Hi, Blake. Hello, hello. Hi, Blake.

Hi, Blake. Eliza, do you want to take this? This is our special guest, Eliza Schlesinger. Hello, hello. I'm very familiar. Is that good? No, in a good way, in a very good way. I mean, I am no stranger to the analysis paralysis, but also the actual act of putting one foot in front of the other.

And it's tough because you got a taste of normalcy with a steady paycheck. And you're like, oh, look how cozy this is. If you were just an artist from the start and you were used to flying by the seat of your pants, then that would be very comfortable for you. I am that. Like, I am a freelance person, right? These are the things that I do. I don't have that backup job. The answer is you're just going to have to do both.

You're just going to have to be exhausted. And the question that I can't answer for you is, will you be okay being not artistically fulfilled in this life if your creature comforts outweigh that? Some people are. For me, it is paramount. But some people can live that way. And are you willing to keep that job so you can keep your lights on

and then just write at night and just hustle and have two jobs until one edges out the other? Short answer is yeah. So like for me, I originally moved away from LA to go to New York because I, at my core, am a hustler. And so I, while I was doing a lot of those other projects, like I always had a full-time job and like I was able to freelance and sort of navigate it. And what happened to me is I got a job and got a really nice salary. I was still living paycheck to paycheck at the time, because New York was just crazy. But I didn't freelance anymore. And then when I had the layoff happen, it just shook everything up and terrified me. And now I'm back in a place where I have a full time job again, I came back to LA. And I'm really sort of leaning

into this creative outlet that I really love, but I don't have side hustles. And that's kind of where I'm like, I know I need to get back into the side hustles, but sort of writing has taken the spot of what that would be because I'm doing it at night. I'm doing it on my lunch breaks at my full-time job. Is it you're writing a scripted show? There's only two scripted shows. Yeah, two scripted shows right now. Well, all you have to do is create those. And then it's about just getting somebody to read it. Like you're not a showrunner, you're not producing these things. So if you've done that, the next step is connecting it to the right people and then the idea is that that gets made so you can leave your other job but it sounds like you're already doing both of them yeah i mean that's what

i'm getting from you you're doing all of it and i mean i i think you're looking for like a way out of doing all of it together like some sort of jackpot the truth of the matter is that you do have to fucking hustle you do and it's brutal sometimes but like it is a means to an end it does pay off so while it might not be like the most glamorous part of your life right now it deserves your focus and attention so that it can become your source of income as well but also i mean yes and it has to be something that like and it sounds like it is like you can't live without it like i wrote a movie that's on netflix called good on paper and that movie is something that i wrote every time i didn't get the audition every time i had an off night and i didn't have sets

when I could have been going out, but I didn't. Like I always returned to that document. And the good news is you have that fire in you, but I'm going to tell you right now, and it seems to happen for everyone but me, there is no moment where they knock and they're like, hey, we're making it. You will submit this.

Hey, we'll read it next week. Okay, it's in three weeks. Oh, the executive got sick. Oh, she had a baby and then they'll pick it up, but we're going to do it in the summer. Okay, well, it's actually going to be for digital. Like you have to become so accustomed to just eating shit for breakfast

because these things take forever. I just took a blind script deal with a major network that took eight months. I'm sorry, I didn't take it. Eight months to even get the deal and in the end we didn't take it because it was so bad.

Eight months just to make a deal for a show I hadn't created. So I'm just letting you know. To make a deal for a show you had not created. Hadn't created. It was a blind script deal and in the end we didn't take it.

It is such a slog. So you have to be so in love with your characters and your process and then you have to be okay with them dying when someone buys this and it sits on a shelf. You have to love the process so much. Yeah, and that's kind of where I think

I felt inspired to write in because like I actually, I'm loving this process. I never thought, like I wanted to get into scripted, but that was kind of elusive. And then I had a mentor just be like, then just go write it. And it seems so simple. And I actually fell in love with the writing process

and it became really great. And then, you know, I was so consumed by one project that I started another. And now I have these two projects that are just kind of building and it's been really fun and exciting. But, you know, I do kind of want to pivot into this. And it sort of became like this thing of fear where I'm like, oh, I actually have to like now continue to push this onward and stuff. But I think the fear is sort of coming from like feeling like I'm being consumed by just making it all happen and doing the hustle and doing everything, which isn't something that I'm necessarily foreign to. It's not it doesn't sound like fear to me It sounds like anxiety because you're wanting it all to happen and I get it like all at once right now But there's actually very little to be done once you've written it And it's going to be sending these emails like there's actually nothing to fear here because nothing is happening

You don't have to leave that job yet What you are is bored. You're like i'm ready to go and this industry is moved so slowly So the hardest thing to do is nothing and that's what's happening right now you just got to go to work, polish your draft, make sure that when it's sent, it's the best version. Don't just fire it off. And I'm the worst at that. Like I will send a network draft with typos. Like I don't even, I didn't proofread my college essays. It's just slow. And that's the hardest part is remembering to live your life while your dreams like slowly start to take off. Yeah. Sean Hayes once gave a piece of advice that was like, he, for himself, when he was coming up,

He said, and I think he actually still does this, but do one thing every day that's like toward the career you want to have. So like you feel like, oh, I got to be taking meetings. I got to be doing all these things. Even if every day you do one thing that's advancing your career or one contact, you're still making progress. The biggest mistake you can make is thinking other people are working for you. And then you find out that they're not. Read the trades. Find the executive at the streamer.

What's your dream network? How do you get to that person? who can you befriend that could read that? Do you have a rep? Do you have reps? No, I don't. That's the other thing. I've always been in-house. Like when I was at Condé, I was in-house and advertising. And so like when I was freelancing, it was just me getting tapped by people within my network, but I've never had a rep. And I got advice earlier on that was sort of like, you know, you don't really need a rep if you don't have anything to be repped. But now I'm sort of at a spot where I'm like, is this the tipping point or do I need to actually get?

This is how you get representation with the material that you've written so far. And there is something that separates people who succeed in this business and people that don't. And I think you're at the crescendo of that or at the tipping point of that, I should say. You got to just keep fucking chugging away. Like it is hard. It is arduous.

It's all of those things. But that's what separates people from being successful in this industry and people who aren't is the people that give up at this point or it's like overwhelm or I don't know what to do next. It's like no one's coming to save you. Yeah. What's your next step? You have two scripts.

So I have two concepts. I'm starting to script them right now. Because some people won't want you to do that. There's nothing wrong with having a script in your back pocket. And you need a concept is very hard to sell if it's not packaged. So right now it's just you. If you were if you walked in and you're like, I've got these three pieces of talent attached and someone loves it.

Nobody wants that. Have that script. And maybe you show it to maybe you don't. But at least you can show it to your rep. like you need proof of concept if it's a scripted no it is scripted for sure one of them's a thriller drama one of them's a dramedy so I think they're hour long both of them are eight episodes one hour each per season not only do you need the script I mean you can do a you can do a pitch some people for a pitch but this pitch needs to be like you need a one sheet you need a pitch deck and you

need these things to be like grabbable and I would ask someone you know who's a writer for other examples of a pitch deck, unless you already have that. It's the hardest part. I always find it's easier to just write the script. I hate pitching. It's a great way to have people tell you to fuck off, but you should be writing the script. Were you planning on writing it? Yeah, I was planning on writing it. I sort of was getting into like putting the pitch material and serial series Bible together. And then I've been getting feedback and people are like, oh, you sort of just need more of a script with this as well. You should just write the script because it is in that script that you will find all the problems have people read it have people you trust not your

friend but like real writers read it rewrite it rewrite it get it to a place where you think it's bulletproof then give it to your rep who will give you their critiques and then you go from there but you gotta you have to actually write it otherwise you're just a person who says that they're a writer yeah i don't call myself a writer if any i know i'm a producer and i think that's been like the other hesitation is like i've done producing i've directed a little bit but like writing is like very i haven't done it since college and like this is like actually something that i'm finding i'm falling in love with enjoy it enjoy falling in love with it thank god eliza was here today she's giving you great advice yeah i can't tell you that i've read save the cat in a long

time their screenwriter podcast like write it and then you'll rewrite it and then step away write it again then you can get your agent can't represent you unless they have something to actually read otherwise it's just like a fun concept nobody really wants to read a bible That's fair enough. Any kind of Bible. Heard, heard. Heard, heard, heard. Okay, well, thanks for calling in.

I mean, that's some good advice. So good luck with everything. Beautiful. Thank you all so much. Check back in in like six months, Blake, okay? Yeah, let us know how you're doing. Yeah, from your mansion after you sold the show. And I'm jealous.

I wish. So awesome. Thank you all so much. I appreciate it. Bye. Bye. It's such a brutal path. That was good advice, though.

Especially right now. Thank you. I'm like, when people call in with career stuff, I'm like, I don't fucking know what to tell you. I don't really know. Just put one foot in front of it. Like, all I can say is hustle, hustle, hustle. But it's like, that was good, too, because it got into specifics.

Yeah, for sure. And it's like, it's a super granular thing. But like, that's what's so great about stand-up is like, just go up. Just go. You don't need someone to okay it. No one has to call. Like, you can just, you can create it every night. The writing is tough.

But plenty of show creators, like, were, I think, like, Mark Platt was, like, a lawyer. and then he created shows like a lot of people just start as something else and just move into writing. So it can be done. Yeah. It's just hard.

Let's take a quick break and I have a little wrap up question. Great. We'll be right back with Eliza. I keep saying Schlesinger. We'll be right back with Eliza Schlesinger. Is Hamlet really Schlesinger?

Schlesinger. Is it Ger? Yeah. I've been saying Eliza Schlesinger. I know. I'm so sorry. Everybody does. Oh my God.

It's Eliza Schlesinger, everybody. Schlesinger. It's Eliza Schlesinger. There you go. Now you're Jewish. Eliza Schlesinger. I'm so sorry. Isn't it so much better that way?

Yeah, it is. Schlesinger. Nope. That was a test. One unforgettable night. See the Jonas Brothers live at RBC Amphitheater, September 28th. Get tickets now at Ticketmaster.ca. Jonas Brothers, the burning up tour all over again.

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There you go. That's totally the way to do it with a pause in the middle. I like it. Like a hyphen. Yep. Emphasis. Yeah. Not an umlaut.

A hyphen. I wish. I wish I came from a culture that had umlauts. We're anti-umlaut. Oh, we are? I think so. I don't know. Umlauts are canceled.

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