Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Crackers with Yamaneika Saunders

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

Yamaneika Saunders is back for a full episode, this time to talk about perimenopause, why Chelsea sent her a box of vibrators, and bringing a buddy to a mammogram.  Then: A mom is concerned she&r...squo;s smoking too much weed while caring for her toddler.  A youngest sister finds herself cleaning up the messes of her older sister’s bitcoin scams.   * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaPodcast@gmail.com * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:10 Just a little note about the audio quality in the intro. We had Chelsea calling in from a remote location, so you may notice a little bit of a difference in the audio quality just for the intro. And we were back in studio for the recording of this episode. Just wanted to let you know. Enjoy the episode. Hi, Catherine. Hi, Chelsea.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Hi. How's it going? How's it going, girl? You know what? It's going great. I'm having an easy summer, so that's pretty good. How about you? What are you up to?
Starting point is 00:02:35 Well, I'm dealing. My foot is getting better each day. I'm now back in a sneaker. And on Monday, they x-ray my foot to make sure it's all healed. And then I can start working out again. You know how I love that. Back to Ben Bruno. Yeah, back to Ben Bruno.
Starting point is 00:02:52 He calls, he texts me every day going, how are you? How are you? And I'm like, just fucking shut up. I'll see you when I see you. But I got a massive CO2 laser on my face also, which my face feels like somebody took sandpaper to it. Like it still feels that way. And it's been like a week and a half.
Starting point is 00:03:10 So I'm hoping that starts to calm down. And my swelling's almost all gone, but I still am swollen from that. You should have seen the day that I took pictures and then I deleted them all from my phone because I'm like, oh, God, this is going to end up with some sort of Jeffrey Epstein story. Yeah, you don't need that going wide. Exactly. Have you been in your, what's the chamber called? Oh, yeah, hyperbaric every day. I'm in my hyperbaric.
Starting point is 00:03:33 I'm staying at my friend Kat's house until my house's new finish date is August 22nd, which I won't even be here for. So that works out perfectly. Great. As usual, I'm taking my span. I'm taking advantage of all this time. Yesterday, I finished a fucking puzzle. I did an actual puzzle. I posted it on Instagram because I don't think I've ever done a puzzle in my life and completed it. It's kind of nice.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Is it? I know. I guess it is. I mean, it's not fun. I like activities that are fun. And that wasn't fun. That was just like, oh, my God, I'm so bored. I've read three books. Oh, you know what I wanted to mention when we were doing our book roundup? I totally forgot. Right, exactly. We did a book roundup episode for everybody. It's a mini-sode. And so that'll come out next Friday, August 8th. I read a fucking awesome book and it's, it's called red notice by Bill Browder. Who's like financial guy that invested in Russia after the, after they got rid of communism, so to speak. And then they public, everything went public, like all their government agencies went public. And so he went in and saw a huge opportunity for investment. And it's all about how corrupt
Starting point is 00:04:41 and crazy Russia is. People die. And this is like a venture capitalist kind of investment banker guy, not a VC, more of a banker, like investment guy, but made billions of dollars in Russia. And then they wanted him out. And then they realized that he was kind of like working the system, but legally. And it's all about, it's a fascinating read. And I forgot to mention that I was thinking of that book that if you're like into that kind of thing, which I'm into, I send it to my Russian nephew so he can stop defending Russians. Perfect. Perfect. So it works in the family too. Yeah. Excellent. I mean, obviously I've sent you like 25 books to read for the podcast. So I know so many. But our guest is
Starting point is 00:05:23 one of my favorite people, you guys. She opens for me in Vegas. She's opening for me again this August 30th. My next gig in Vegas, my next night at the Cosmo is August 30th. So she'll be my opener. If you haven't seen her perform, you need to. She's hilarious. Also, I added a second show in West Hampton. So I'm doing two nights in West Hampton in August, August 21st, which is sold out and then August 22nd. Yeah, so please welcome a comedian, hopefully a new podcaster. She's had her own radio show.
Starting point is 00:05:55 She is one hot fucking mess. Yamanika Saunders. You're still sweating from last night. You were sweating last night, too. Are you going through perimenopause? Listen, bitch, I went the wrong way on the train. Well, whose fucking fault is that? Yours.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Don't you live here? I know. You don't know how to get on a fucking train? No. You are, okay. Yamanika just walked in. She smells like marijuana, as usual. I have a video from us last night.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Oh, yeah, he's doing my love. You want me to take your jacket? I'll take it. Yeah, I could just put all this shit on the ground. Yeah, just throw all her stuff on the floor, please. Yeah, yeah. Maybe right here is perfect. I just hit a little bit of something before I came up here.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Don't do this. Yeah, thank you. Here she comes. One of your boobs is on the other side. What's going on? What happened after I left last night? Okay, first of all, Yamanika Saunders is on the podcast today. She's our very, very special guest.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I might have to take this off. It's hot in here. Oh, God. Catherine, have you met Yama yet? I have not. Only through her Instagram lives. Hold on a second. One second.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Getting undressed. It's hot in here. What? Yes, this outfit. Yes, please. Okay. Hi, Yamanika. Sit down, please.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Let's go. Let's go. You have lipstick on your teeth. Do you want to go like that? I don't care. I don't give a fuck anymore. Okay, well, I'm trying to help you. Yeah, you can curse.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Okay. Hello, everybody. Welcome to my show. Hi, I'm Anika. Hi, my love. You're so cute. Oh, thank you. And porcelain skin.
Starting point is 00:07:26 This is the type of white I like. Why can't you get to that type of porcelain? Because she porcelain. You don't like my... First of all, you have fucking lipstick all over your face and your teeth. Yeah, look at yourself. Let me see. I see you.
Starting point is 00:07:37 This is you, you self-centered bitch. Here. Yeah. Okay, let me recap what happened last night. We went to dinner. It was supposed to be an innocent dinner. It was an innocent dinner until you came and you messed everything up. I was completely sane and sober before you showed up.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And then two minutes after you arrived, I was like, oh, wait. Did this bitch put some acid in my back? No, I didn't bring any drugs. I didn't have any drugs. She brought two Australian lesbians. and One is a lesbian I think
Starting point is 00:08:11 I don't know the other one is a lesbian Baby No, no, no, no, no Definitely If she ain't a lesbian she need to talk to somebody Right, no, no, no
Starting point is 00:08:18 Because she need a stylist immediately and no distance because I don't want to hear the lesbians Oh, what do you mean? We don't know how to dress I think you should be
Starting point is 00:08:24 talking about a stylist when you're in a fucking tankini right now Listen, this is because I'm 46 years old and a grown onesie It's perimenopause I'm hot and I'm cold
Starting point is 00:08:32 So the part of me that's cold got tights on Sorry that her voice is going in and out She's standing up I've been demonstrating her outfit. You don't think they know what standing up sound like?
Starting point is 00:08:41 No, I have to explain to our listeners. You over here at iHeart, you ain't got the microphones to pick up motherfuckers when they go all over the place? You need to talk to the budgeting people. Did you tell them you white or is that currency up now? They know, they know. The next four years, everybody black. Welcome to the club, whitey. Yama, whenever I complain about anything political, she's like, bitches, this is on fucking you.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And you and your fucking white bitch friends. Who, I mean, I did vote for Donald Trump, obviously, but a lot of white women did. No, Chelsea, you're always out of it. You know the thing about it is, Chelsea. I'm not out of it. No, no, no, yes, you are, because, no, no, no, you're not, but you are. Let me tell you why. Chelsea, for some reason, Chelsea definitely the white woman that get it,
Starting point is 00:09:22 but then she hang around a flock of white bitches that don't. So if I tell her she ain't shit, I want her to tell it to the other white bitches that's around her that they ain't shit, because she ain't shit, so that they become shit, because now I keep telling her that they ain't shit through her. First of all, the white bitches I hang out with are all on the same team as I am. What team is that? Team, fuck it, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:09:42 We're on the same team. We're not on fucking Donald Trump's team. We're on the... No, no, no. No, no, no. The women I hang out with... I don't think they're on Donald Trump's team. I do think that they white as hell.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So team, all of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But a lot of white people can't help being white. I mean, most of us can't help being white. I don't know. Have you tried? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Black men are trying to help white women every day bring on more mocha-lato children. So go talk to a black man. Have you talked to your black senator lately and asked him? Do I have a black senator? Do you? I don't. Are you sure?
Starting point is 00:10:13 I know. I don't have a black senator. Who can somebody? I hope the senator is black and that you don't know it. I don't have a black senator in the state of California. I do not have a black senator. Am I in Maryland? Are you talking about Maryland, the governor?
Starting point is 00:10:24 What are you fucking talking about? She's from Maryland, actually. Anyway, let me just. Maryland, where they sent that motherfucker back to El Salvador that ain't even from motherfucking El Salvador. I can't talk about that. I know you white men doing whatever the fuck they want to. How the fuck do you send a motherfucker who's not even El Salvadorian to El Salvador and their motherfuckers from Maryland? How are we doing this?
Starting point is 00:10:49 Hello, white people. Is this thing on? Is this what you voted for? When y'all thought niggas was going to be the one down there suffering the most and look at you. Huh? Look at you. Now use a nigga too. That's my new, my current special is called White Nigga.
Starting point is 00:11:03 you can get it on youtube it is perfect for this time because everything that i talk about in my special white nigga is happening right now and if you are a white nigga go listen to it and i'm telling you right now the second part is about white bitches white women take responsibility for the shit that you did shut the fuck up and bend over now bitch because it's handsmaid's tale right it's a handsmaid's tale i never watched one fucking episode of that thing but by the cover i can tell you that white women gonna look like that shit by next tuesday at 5 30 okay bitch welcome to the club and i'm a big black bitch with big greasy titties and i'm gonna go straight in that kitchen honey and i'm gonna make some flapjacks and i'm telling and i'm gonna get
Starting point is 00:11:45 listen me right i'm going in there chelsea going in there too you know if i gotta work underneath a white woman i need chelsea we gonna have some fun you know i'm saying at night when they tell all the slaves go to sleep and then Chelsea say get underneath my bed I'm going to put you in a little drawer here and then I'm going to go in there
Starting point is 00:12:01 hopefully I can fit you know how heavy it's at and then when Masa go to sleep she's going to open the drawer and then we're going to have like a little American girl doll party
Starting point is 00:12:09 please don't refer to me as Masa okay I don't fucking appreciate no no no bitch I said Masa you got a Masa too bitch okay I understand
Starting point is 00:12:16 do you do you no I want people to understand sweet low sweet cherry you going to be out there picking that cotton anyway this is Yamanika
Starting point is 00:12:23 she has a special out on YouTube that I would encourage every single person to watch because it's very, women, I know you, like a lot of us are Democrats and we vote for the right things, but I think what I've learned from all of my black sisters is how disappointed they are in constantly showing up
Starting point is 00:12:47 and showing up for election after election, fighting the good fight, fighting the good fight, and yet half of the white women in this country don't seem to show up. They don't seem to. And then they vote for somebody like this fucking asshole. And now we're living in this hell, which unveils a new hell every single day. So it's a great learning and teaching special for all of us who are not as enlightened as we want to be
Starting point is 00:13:09 about actually the dynamic between people of color and women of color and what they have done for this country versus what white women have done for this country. Wow, isn't that beautiful? Every now and then you really get it. Let's talk about what happened last night. I can't stand it. I like her. I know. You love me and you can't help it.
Starting point is 00:13:26 There's nothing you can fucking do about it. There's nothing. You're in love with me, actually. No, no, no. When you see me, you get googly eyes. Right, right, right. You see me and your eyes pop. Don't forget, you put your hands down my pants yesterday.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Don't remember it was warm, right? No, I was wrong about that. You loved it. You fucking loved it. You loved that your hands were on my warm vagina. No, they weren't on your vagina. Are white women's vaginas warm? It depends.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I mean, yeah, usually. They're not cold. Put your hand down there and feel. They're not cold. I mean, vaginas aren't typically cold. Mine was hot. Yeah. You were getting hot boxed.
Starting point is 00:13:56 You're horny. You're horny. And she still thinks she's having a baby. I'm trying to convince her that that's not the right move. If any man wants to help me. You want to bring, but think about bringing a baby into this world. Think about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Is that a nice thing to do to a baby? You know what? I'm going to say this. You know what? Here's another teaching moment through babies. When you were talking about how black women feel, right, about how white women continuously don't show up the way they ask us to show up for them, right? Exactly, yes.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Here's the real reality. real reality nobody because people like well it's my you know i'm thinking about myself my family nobody has a problem right with white women going hey i like to have a great life yeah i'd like to vote for things that are in my interest that's totally fine the problem is when the things that are in your interest and that are going to help you are going to disenfranchise and disadvantage somebody else and you still vote for it that's what makes you a catch you next tuesday right on Wednesday because it ain't Wednesday right or is it Thursday still a cunt so the reality is do what you want be who you want but think about the repercussions of what your space and taking up
Starting point is 00:15:01 space in the world looks like for everybody else so in terms of wanting a child yeah I do think that is very selfish of me right I'm 46 not necessarily well I just want to say just to be aware I am 46 by the time I'm ready I told you say maybe 48 now I moved it to 50 you know I never know when we're ready. I've come from a family that... Definitely not ready now. I just want to put that out there. I've traveled with you. I've been on the... You are not ready to have a baby. So, okay. I travel
Starting point is 00:15:27 excellent. You're a giant baby. Okay? You can't show up anywhere on time without fucking things hanging out of your bags, without fucking wigs and hair. I mean, you don't even know what the fuck is going to happen. Sometimes we have to drop her off on the... We pick
Starting point is 00:15:43 her up and she's on the side of the road like a streetwalker. that's true listen i i in terms of the baby oh god i want the baby but i do i am thinking realistically like also with as old as i am you know no disrespect that women can have babies but you know my life expectancy right for the child right is like my kid i'm gonna see them until they're 25 maybe, 26, you know? So I don't know. It is scary.
Starting point is 00:16:16 And also your schedule, your stand-up. You're out every night. You're doing stand-up all the time. Well, no, no, no. I could see my kid until 30 at this point, right? 46. It depends how long. Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 00:16:25 34, 35 maybe, you know. Okay, anyway, we'll put a pin in the baby thing, okay? You're trying to pop the bubble on that. I'm going to work hard to prevent it from happening. I'm going to try to work hard to convince you not to have a baby. I told you we could co-mother the baby. I think I will. well I will end up
Starting point is 00:16:41 co-mothering the baby and that's also why I don't want you to have one because I don't have the fucking bandwidth okay last night I went to dinner
Starting point is 00:16:47 where were we went to Harlem what was the we were in the Apollo inside the Apollo was that the Apollo yeah it was but they've
Starting point is 00:16:55 it's kind of gutted out now so but it's also a hotel it's like a whole bunch of stuff going on there I thought they still had the theater at the Apollo they do
Starting point is 00:17:02 oh yeah but then there's like another but where we went was the Victoria inside restaurant that was nice that was nice
Starting point is 00:17:07 I like that chef he was It was amazing. I had grilled oysters, my favorite. I had two orders of grilled oysters. That's how fucking good they were. She was trying to have sex with me, and I said, take it easy on those oysters.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I know how you get. Yeah. Anyway, I showed up with some friends, two lesbians, and then another friend of mine, another homosexual friend of mine. Right, no dick for me. You always come with nothing for me. Well, listen.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I want a few pieces of dick. My driver, I have a driver. No, don't do that. Well, no, I'm going to. because it's a lie, Kelly. You were sexually assaulted. I was not. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Okay, my driver, Rafa. I love him. Okay, yes. Don't do that. Last night, Rafa said, hey, can someone bring me a coffee outside? I didn't. Because he was outside.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Guess what? And Yaya came over and said, don't let Yama bring him the coffee because she'll hit on him. I said, I know. We've already been through this. The man is married. Rafa is scared of Yama.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yes, he is married. No, he loves you. No, I love him. I would never do that. But no, no, no, no. See, the thing is. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm not done with the story.
Starting point is 00:18:09 This is what they think sexual harassment is, being nice. Remember who's talking, Kelsey. Everywhere we go. Oh, she's being nice. She must want to fuck him. Sexual harassment. Everywhere we go, wherever we go, and we've been on the road together many times, she hits on either the security guard, the driver, the guy, remember from Houston?
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah, I got the picture. I look at that every now and then. I got the picture with him. I know, but I took- He wanted the picture with me. I know, he took a picture. No, you sent me the picture of you and him together like a bitch, but I still use it to masturbate. she was hitting
Starting point is 00:18:39 so Rafa one night I just cropped Chelsea out of it sometimes I don't have time to crop her out you know I'm ready to go so I just had to look at both of them who is a married man and has a family he drove Yama home one night when we were out up to shenanigans in New York City he dropped me off
Starting point is 00:18:55 at my hotel and then he dropped Yama off and I said Rafa if she makes you uncomfortable it's okay to be firm with her you know you're a married man and the next morning when I saw him He was trying to be a gentleman about it, but he said she's very aggressive. He said she's very aggressive.
Starting point is 00:19:12 So she was pressuring my driver to fornicate with her. No, I was not. But I've seen you do it to almost any. Yeah, but once I got up there, you know I don't be bringing up no home. What about in New Orleans? Remember at the restaurant with Amy, we went to New Orleans? Oh, yeah. Yeah, and the waiter.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Oh, you guys gave him my phone number. Amy Schumer gave him your phone number. She did. That was nice of her. And did you hear from him? Mm-hmm. Okay, wait, stay on track, stay on track. You stay on track.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Okay, so then we go to dinner last night, and then she has like three friends there, two guys there, right? Three, how many people were we? It just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Everywhere I turned, somebody was there. Yes, and then I thought these two people were with you guys, and they weren't,
Starting point is 00:20:03 so I just added them to our group. these two random one was a French woman and this other woman who was she was funny so I mean no no no
Starting point is 00:20:12 I knew her oh you did because Yaya was like who the fuck are these two people oh they were at the house yeah they came to the house no no no that's my friend's wife
Starting point is 00:20:19 oh okay great yeah yeah yeah no no no I knew her the French woman we didn't know no she's Argentinian okay
Starting point is 00:20:26 yeah and we didn't know her but she wanted she was smoking so I thought she was French yeah yeah yeah she had to get the cigarettes from France though because of the tariffs
Starting point is 00:20:32 but so we go back to And we go back to Yama's house, and we're smoking weed and whatever else. But Yama decides to disrobe. There's about 10 of us over there. I took my shirt off. I'm in perimenopause. It's hot. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Well, we have to get you estrogen and progesterone. Please. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody in my apartment wanted my vagina, not even the lesbians. So that's why it was okay for me to take my shirt off. Yeah, but, yeah, yeah. I have a video that I'm probably going to post. Post it.
Starting point is 00:20:58 No, no, no. I know you don't care. Make sure you AI my stomach down, because I thought I was a lot thinner than that. Do me a favor. You want to go with me to talk to my drug guy after this? About what? Go over to his house and smoke out and have some drugs. I can't.
Starting point is 00:21:10 I have to go get a mammogram. Oh, let me go with you to get a mammogram. You want to get a mammogram with me? Can you add me? I don't think that's how it works, but I would love to try. Yeah, let's try it. You can't put no strings with your name? I mean, I could, but this isn't my regular hospital.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Were you just going around putting your titties in other hospitals? Yeah, because I just found something in my shoulder, and I just want to make sure I get an ultrasound. Not a love break thing. No, no. You ain't got time to be having nothing, bitch. I got to ride your coattails. I know, I know, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I don't have you. Whatever it is, you better get your name on the prayer list, bitch. You better ask the Lord to remove it. It's not anything serious, I'm sure. It's actually gone now. I just want to know. Is it? Yeah, I'll yell it out.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so. You don't need no mammogram with me, bitch. I'll cut it off. But, yeah, I mean, you could probably come with me and squeeze your way in. I mean, do you have a. Squeeze. I ain't with you, bitch.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Have you had a mammogram recently? You have to have one every year. You know that, right? Yeah. No, I've had, I'm five years in. Because with those titties, I can't even imagine what you must go through. I've gotten the same lady three times, and she remembers my breasts. Yeah, well, they're hard to forget.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I mean, they're massive. But I didn't know, but I was like, I didn't, I don't want to ask the woman. I was like, you know, it's inappropriate, right, to be like, are you gay? Yeah, it is inappropriate to say that. I mean, she, but I mean, like, I wanted to know because, like, maybe she, I was turning her on. Uh-huh. But what if, if I asked her that and she wasn't gay, it's like, then I look like I'm harassing her. So then we were supposed to go dancing last night.
Starting point is 00:22:30 You were going to go to somebody's snow is. We were going to go dancing. But what happened when we got back to Yamanika's was that we ended up staying there for about an hour. And everyone was so stoned. I was stoned. That was great. We had so many joints and rotation. I know.
Starting point is 00:22:44 It was really fun. It was really fun. But at a certain point, you know, I check out. And that was at around 11 o'clock. I was like, it's time to go home. So I didn't go dancing. Did you go dancing? No.
Starting point is 00:22:53 But I went to Sherry's after. Oh, you did? and we played spades Sherry Shepard yeah at her house or did you go back to the
Starting point is 00:23:00 okay yeah her house and then I went home and then you know some of my friends got high and somebody had to stay at my house
Starting point is 00:23:06 tonight yes last night oh really a man but yeah did you have sex mm-mm oh
Starting point is 00:23:12 mm-mm she has two cats at her house so the cats the cats have to know when a man's coming over they gotta prepare
Starting point is 00:23:19 she was looking for her cats for about 40 minutes when we got there and it's not that big of an apartment no no no my cats I've trained them not to trust white people.
Starting point is 00:23:27 So more than one white person walking the door, they got to go. The cat came out from under the couch. They was going somewhere looking for freedom. The cat came out from under the couch and was running, and I'm not exaggerating, 60 miles an hour into the kitchen. I was like, what the fuck was that? And she's like, oh, that's, what's his name? Pryor.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Pryor, yeah. He was like, he was, he said, no, no, no. He, you know, he heard a lot of passive aggression and not taking accountability in the apartment. And so he had to go and, you know, make sure his NAACP cat card was activated. So with regard, moving back to the political situation here, because you have... Yeah, what's going on here? How are you feeling these days about everything that's going on?
Starting point is 00:24:09 Just America kind of got what it deserved? Is that where you are? You know, everybody make a big deal. Oh, like, Kamala, did she say I told you so? Did she say, who cares? I hope she does say I told you so. I don't know why. I would change my name to I told you so.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Harris. You see what I'm saying? Fuck a Kamala. I told you so, Harris, because the reality is those of us who had common sense knew that this was going to happen. I think what we have to be very aware of is that the disease is not Donald Trump. The disease is the people that were comfortable with somebody who has a spirit that we have watched present itself already in the presidency to then go on board and say, we do like the fact that he wants to get immigrants out, knowing that this was a place that was stolen from the Native Americans and is built on immigrants. We do want him to put women back in the times when they couldn't, knowing how women have contributed to society. We do want him to put blacks back in their place when they don't, knowing to the contributions that black people have made, not only to the soil here, but to the progression of this country. And it doesn't advantage us at any point in time because we will never have the power that we need to really be free in this country.
Starting point is 00:25:23 They said with all of that and all of these people who are serving the greater good, even though America never serves them, we still want to say fuck you to them because we want it all. Only to realize that this country that has been built on white supremacy and under the guise of racism being strong is really a society about classism. so at the end of the day once they have separated the largest group at the bottom and divided us across boards now it's easy to take over everything because you don't have the power of black people right now we are tired what do we like we we've been dealing with this shit time and time again and no matter how many times we put ourselves in an environment with white people and have white friends we keep saying this is our plight it's still kind of like oh you know But now white people have to see the same shit.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And I don't have time to be holding white people's hands into oppression. I don't have time. Can you believe it? Can you? What is happening? I don't know. When we kept saying stop killing black people and black lives matter, people were like, oh, no, it's all lives. We're not saying black lives because we don't think it's all lives.
Starting point is 00:26:40 We're saying black lives because you don't know that black lives matter. but then you want to gaslight us into believing that we're trying to be this you know they want to be better they want to be no we just want to be a part of but i think a lot of white people do understand that and there's a group of people that don't understand that it's not all blanket you can't say that about black people or white people let me let me let me let's no no i will say that i will say that because what happens is when somebody tells you how they hurt right we're talking in general a person says how they hurt you can either listen and go how can I help you not have that hurt right and that's very centered around that person or they can tell
Starting point is 00:27:22 you how they hurt and you can go I didn't cause that hurt whether you cause it or not has nothing to do with the fact that this person is hurting so when we have a conversation especially as a black woman and I go as a black woman this is what's happening to me and I'll have men go well I don't know as a woman and maybe certain things as a woman white women can relate to and then they appreciate then there's parts that white women will not relate to because it's a problem as a black person and then those things come together as a black woman and if I say to a white woman here's what's going on and that white woman says well you know it's not me it's like okay bitch it ain't you but I still got this shit going on so how am I going to help it and we got to stop
Starting point is 00:28:10 this people being defensive when somebody says this is what's happening because it doesn't matter whether you support or whether you not all white people we can only say not all white people if it was like Donald Trump didn't come it was enough white people and because it's enough white people and we keep saying not all white people we ain't focused on how many fucking white people fucked up How many fucking white women fucked up? How many fucking people of color fucked up just because they thought they weren't the people of color that were going to be disenfranchised even further? So I'm not here to give any grace to how anybody feels about what I'm telling you about what's fucking happening. Because when we play this game, we have a dictator.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Well said. I know she wants to eat my pussy after that. Look at her. And I saw a little nipple coming out of a little shirt. Hey, bitch. We're going to take a break and we'll be right back with Yamanika. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies?
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Starting point is 00:31:32 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on its head, right? How about we flip the script, okay? What if the surprise woman, who actually you think is the straight man, is actually the one who's acting weird? Adam Scott, bleh.
Starting point is 00:32:17 This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never expect. Let go of that. I have. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. It seems like you did. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept.
Starting point is 00:32:37 You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah. It's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. mm-hmm i was like is that weed nope it's fragile masculinity yeah ben stiller no because a lot of times in out of context people don't get it or even know what a circle is you know what i mean like you're like oh what's the state everyone's so dumb and fake right fake and and also not interested or just like oh i've got my life i don't care about your life and a lot of other
Starting point is 00:33:10 big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us oh and by the way will ferrell told us personally He loves the show, and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, we're back with Yamanika Saunders. First of all, follow her on Instagram. She gets banned a lot on Instagram. I do. She does.
Starting point is 00:33:34 She gets shadowed. Chelsea was like, I was trying to watch something. Where are you? I'm like, girl, they took me down again. How do they do that? Do they tell you why? Yeah, because I started saying cracker. It's done.
Starting point is 00:33:45 It's done. You can say nigga all day long, but cracker, white people are like, remember when white women were like, Karen is the N-word. We're like, what, bitch? I like being called a cracker. I'm not going to pretend I don't. I fucking like it. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:33:57 You know, I was in South Africa with my sister once, and we had this kind of guide in South Africa. And, you know, the racism is thick, thick there. And we had this guide who was kind of like giving us his version. He's a white man. He was giving us his version of, like, what happened, the history of South Africa with the Dutch and the English and la, la, la. and he you know his version was and and after i i hated i hated this guy from the minute i met him
Starting point is 00:34:22 i just my sister knew she's like you've met my sister yeah yeah she was just like oh you're not i didn't like the way he looked i didn't like his body i didn't like his clothing i was like oh this guy is and you shut down when you don't like me you get quiet yeah i don't like it and i i have no poker face i can't and as soon as he walked away my sister looked at me and she goes that's He's the reason why black people came up with the word cracker. Okay, we're going to take some callers. We're giving advice. Are you ready for this, Yamanika?
Starting point is 00:34:53 Yeah, she's ready. Are they ready? She's ready. I don't think they are, but it's going to be fun. Is anyone ready? So our first caller is Alicia. She says, Dear Chelsea, I'm a 39-year-old stay-at-home mom to a 15-month-old son who is just a cutie. I like to microdose with my vape pen and enjoy gummies regularly.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I quit smoking it as it's the worst way to consume, but since I have been a cannabis user my entire life, I feel like it's part of who I am. Lately, I've been contemplating whether it's serving me. I go from thinking it's great, it's not a problem, I enjoy the creativity it provides, and I feel like I understand my son better when I'm high. But then I think about the fact that I'm high all day long and figure it can't be that healthy. So when I try to wait until after 12 p.m. or after 5 p.m., I always negotiate with myself and end up vaping. The worst part is my husband doesn't know I'm high all day. He just thinks I use it at night. He has an office studio in the backyard, so he's home all day but not inside, so it's very easy for me to hide it from him.
Starting point is 00:35:55 But I hate the fact that I'm even hiding it at all. I live in an area where it's easily accessible and not considered a big deal, but because I use it so frequently, I often wake up feeling groggy or just meh and feel like I'm doing something wrong. I know I'm not addicted because when I go out of town or I'm somewhere I can't bring my pen, it's not a problem, but I'm having serious trouble only consuming it at night and staying sober during the day. As a regular user yourself, what do you think about this? Do I have a problem? Alicia. Hi, Alicia. Hi. Wow. She's right there. What, you a writer? That was like a novel. I was giving context. No, it was beautiful. Thank you. Yeah, because you know America's
Starting point is 00:36:34 not doing um well in literacy right now so we need to put you out there in the forefront i say smoke and keep smoking i would say if you're having feelings like that though if you're having feelings about smoking if you can smoke in your car free about it and you're not worried about it and overthinking about it then that's one thing but it sounds like you're you're definitely worried about the amount that you're consuming and that you're consuming it all day and that you're not hiding it from your husband and and like everything you're saying sounds like you just have a really bad habit of smoking it too frequently. The problem with smoking weed too much is that it doesn't give you the buzz that you get when you, when you take
Starting point is 00:37:13 breaks. Like when you smoke it less frequently, there's a better buzz. Like if I get high all day long, I become a little bit dead in the head. That's not my idea of a good time. I like to have a joint or smoke weed, you know, at night. Like there are days where I smoke all day long. If I'm skiing in Whistler and I have, you know, a pipe and I'm like, okay, I'll just take hits of it all day long. But over more, it's not a great habit all day long every day. That's just not the best use of your time. You can always reward yourself in the evening. You don't have to deprive yourself. But I would say to create a new habit around your son, kind of respecting your relationship with your son. He doesn't need his mom to be high to be around him. You know, not that that's what
Starting point is 00:37:51 you're saying, but it's a little bit what you're saying. And it's just better. I mean, it's not better is not the right word. It's just, it's creates an environment of just a relaxed, like fun. If he's like a little fussy, I'm just like, not important, you know? So I just feel like it creates a positive environment, even though, yeah, there's, I do think that it's not a good idea to be high all day. The trouble I have is just stopping through the day. Cause once I start that first morning hit, then it's like a snowball effect. Of course I've been there. I know exactly what you're talking about i would say to put your vape pens away until six o'clock at night i would say to just experiment with that make it a rule for a week to just not smoke during the day
Starting point is 00:38:34 you can do it you have power within you to make that decision and to follow through and just have it at night and i honestly think you're going to enjoy it more so at night and you're start going to start the first couple days are going to be difficult but it's not going to be difficult after that if you want to be present for your son I know you do that's what we're talking we're here to talk about if you want to be present for your son you don't have this is just so you know when you have a child this is also going to come up for you you know you're not going to be able to smoke weed all day or you will be you'll just do whatever you want I know I'm just watching you and and awe like the information you're giving is amazing well I think that you and and I think
Starting point is 00:39:13 that it's just a good it's a it's a good example to set for yourself and for your and for your child. And you should also let your husband know, hey, you know what? I'm only going to smoke weed after six o'clock from now on, I've decided. That's what I'm going to do. Sometimes I pick up a pen during the day. And just get through the phase of that. Get through a phase of creating a new habit. And once you are through that phase, once you go like 30 days of just doing it after 6 p.m., then every once in a while, if there's a moment that's so stressful during the day and you're like, oh God, I could use it, you can use it incrementally. But you have to understand the slippery slope when we take one hit and you're home all day with your kid you're going to take
Starting point is 00:39:50 another hit and you're going to take another one and you're going to take another one right so it's up to you to rehabituate your life and you're going to be better for it and you're going to be a better parent you're going to feel better about yourself the reason you're calling is because you're having misgivings about the way that you're you're using yeah i think it's a problem so if you if you think that it is don't look on are you yeah okay great so i would just say that you don't have to like quit marijuana, just use it more sparingly and be more discerning about when you want to get high. You know, it should be fun. It should be a celebration. When I smoke weed all day, I'm not laughing. I'm not having the best time. I eventually just want to
Starting point is 00:40:28 go to sleep at seven. Like it's not, it's not helpful to smoke weed all day, but it's, it's really fun. Like last night I, we came, I had a joint. I can't travel with weed anymore. Cause I'm so paranoid about getting, you know, pulled over or stopped at TSA because everyone knows how much I love drugs you know it's very public so uh and my whole new set is about everywhere I take drugs so I have to stop I basically told on myself so I'm with you I totally understand and I get you and but I would advise you to do that and you can do it you cannot smoke weed until 6 p.m you're completely capable of doing that I have no doubt in my mind I think I need like a lock box or something I say they have like little lock boxes you can
Starting point is 00:41:10 get for your cell phone and you just like put them in there, set your little timer for whenever you want. And like, are you going to go to the store and get more? Probably not. Like you're going to wait. Yeah. Except it's at the end of my street. Damn it. So close. What a weed store? Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, but I also think like have some accountability, like tell your husband so that you can be accountable. You know what I mean? Just say, Hey, I'm going to give, I'm going to give you my vape pen. I don't want it until six o'clock. Okay. Just hold it for me. Yeah. And I don't even think you need to tattle on yourself or what you have been doing just be like hey this has been tempting me so like just keep it in your office until six or whatever yeah then you're a
Starting point is 00:41:45 winner all the way around yeah I would hate it if he saw me and I didn't realize and like it became an issue because I don't want to lie to him or him to be like what are you doing all day I think he would think I'm extremely irresponsible yeah but you're not you're not you're not and what don't beat yourself up about it just just make a new habit yeah yeah okay okay thanks so much ladies thanks thanks for calling in okay bye bye i just want to make a note that yamadika's advice was to continue to smoke weed with her baby so let's just make sure that's on record no no no oh yeah yeah okay but what i'm saying is to be fair i was very impressed with you Thank you.
Starting point is 00:42:28 You know what I'm saying? Like, the information you gave was so thoughtful. She's good at this, Yamanika. I know. I need to start tuning in. Why you don't ever give me advice like this? Because you don't fucking listen, first of all, to anything. I mean, that's fair enough.
Starting point is 00:42:40 That's true. Remember? Yeah, yeah, I get it. Okay. Well, our next caller is Allie. And, Yamanika, you're an oldest sister, right? Yes. I have three half-sisters.
Starting point is 00:42:51 We share the same father. All right. This is a little bit about having to take care of your sisters. So Allie says, Dear Chelsea, I've been a fan for longer than I care to admit because it will age us both. Either way, I'm emailing because like you, I lost a brother at a young age and it's impacted my family for years in different ways. I'm the youngest of four. My sister, who's 10 years older, has continually made bad decisions in the years that have followed. And I've always been the one to hold things together for our family.
Starting point is 00:43:18 This past year was the final straw when she fell prey to a Bitcoin scam and my parents bailed her out to keep her out of jail. Honestly, I'm tired of being the one to keep shit together. I want to finally break this cycle and figure out how to move forward with her while staying true to my own boundaries to protect myself and my kids. I promise I will get a therapist due and not just rely on the show, but I would love your advice. Allie. Hi, Allie.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Hello. Hi. So nice to see you. Nice to see you too. This is our special guest, Yamanika Saunders is here today. Hi, Allie. Hi. that's such a bummer that your sister is so susceptible to all of that and that fell for a
Starting point is 00:43:57 bitcoin scheme and scam what so what are you thinking about doing you want to cut her off or like where are you right now well like i said in my email i did seek a therapist and she has been truly wonderful like has really helped me navigate the complex relationships not only between my sister and my parents and kind of my brother too as you know like after losing a brother, everybody is affected in different ways. But yes, I think she has really helped me in understanding how we all got to the point that we're at. I don't think I'm ready to cut them all out. Definitely still on the table. But at this point, not really, because we don't really have a lot of family around here. My husband's from the UK. So like, they are our
Starting point is 00:44:39 family. So it's complicated, as you know. Yeah, I mean, I think that like, I don't know that there's a necessary, it's necessary to do anything in this moment. Like I think considering your family history and everything you're saying, like most parents are going to bail their kid out when that happens. And just because she's made some bad decisions doesn't mean that she's worth cutting out of your life. You want to really build, and it sounds like you're already doing that with your therapist, build an understanding and empathy and compassion for the fact that she's experiencing life in a different way than you are, that she's not as responsible as you are. You know, like We all have a lot of judgment when people don't act the way that we do.
Starting point is 00:45:16 You know, certain people, I know I do. I have a real problem with judging others when I think they make stupid decisions or they're not looking after themselves. But it's really not your job to be policing everyone. Sometimes showing up with extra love and doubling down on love and kindness helps people get out of ruts, too. So there's another way, like an avenue to go about it. What do you, I mean, what do you think? I've had a situation like that, not to get too much into my own personal, you know, because it involves my family. So I'll use this one example with my mother. My mother, I can tell her a thousand times I don't want her to do something because I don't want it to hurt her, you know, disadvantage her. I know what the result of that's going to be. And I'm trying to protect her. And my mother will still go, OK, let me still be involved with this part and go, Mom, you know, we know what's going.
Starting point is 00:46:06 But, you know, God told me, okay, so the boundary is because watching you be frustrated by a situation with somebody that I know is going to frustrate you or take advantage of you, and you still are doing that, I can't go on that emotional journey with you. I'm going to be here as your daughter. I love you. but when this thing blows back on you like it's done time and time again i'm not your resource to have a conversation about how to get over that so if you're fine with me not being there for you at all while you handle that continue to do what you do but any any point in time that you expect me to be emotionally there and supportive with you my opinion has to also matter in the decisions that you're making no and i think that makes perfect sense that's a healthy boundary i think
Starting point is 00:46:58 And I'm like I said, I'm learning how to set those with everybody. And I think, yeah, that definitely helps because it's like I've also been reading Mel Robbins book about let them and it's so freaking hard. Yes. You seem like a very loving person. And that's the thing about it. Right. When you're loving and you're you'll be surprised. Reciprocity in people is not given. Right. Right. Sometimes you'll be like, why would somebody do that? I would never do that. I would never do this to my parents. I would never put, and then some people don't even think like that. And if you're thinking for yourself emotionally and for your sister and all,
Starting point is 00:47:33 you're doing a lot of emotional thinking and what's left over for you, then you're still taking advantage of, right? You feel discredited. You feel unheard because you keep yelling to people. No, preserve your energy for you. You need to preserve some for you. and your parents love you and they'll be there but they also got another daughter they gotta fucking deal with and that's they birth her not you you're her sister you're not her mother and
Starting point is 00:48:00 her father and i think that's fair i think where some of the complication comes in is my parents even though i'm the youngest youngest of the four of us they expect me to be the one to kind of help her learn right from wrong and like to be the middle person because i've always been the middle person between my parents and my sister and when i cut myself out of that they were kind of just they were mad at me and I was like what the hell like I'm doing the I'm trying to set my own boundaries for myself and my kids and the fact that they didn't respect that really annoyed me too so it's like anytime you set a healthy boundary like the people who benefited from your lack of boundaries are going to be upset with that and like that's kind of okay the other
Starting point is 00:48:40 thing I will say is I love this idea of like doubling down on love and I'll also just say loving someone doesn't necessarily mean that like you're the shield that keeps them from experiencing consequences and it sounds like some of the boundaries you're putting in place have maybe been active in that in that way yes absolutely and I think that's part of it too is like we're all kind of figuring out new roles and dynamics in the family with me removing myself from that so navigating kind of where we go from here I want you to understand Allie that's also what i'm telling you is there are people in the world that will take advantage of kindness and love you understand you don't have to stop loving you have to turn it off or hold it
Starting point is 00:49:26 it doesn't mean respect is not there okay you understand yep because a lot of people not that i'm against what they're saying i'm not standing down on this doubling down on love love yourself You can't love everybody. And people will take advantage. Once they've shown you they're taking advantage, you've got to start making decisions that are going to benefit your own mental capacity. Trust me, I'm 46. I'm perimenopausal.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I've been sweating here and there. I don't give a fuck about nobody right now. You understand? It's taken all in me to give a fuck about you right now because I'm perimenopausal. By the way, she didn't know she was perimenopausal until I told her last night. But I wish you well, Allie. I see you have such a beautiful spirit. Don't lose that, my love.
Starting point is 00:50:15 And healthy boundaries are the best because you're not only creating them, you're demonstrating them for other people. Like Catherine said, they're not going to like it in the beginning, and like you admitted that your parents didn't like it, but you are creating a different dynamic and a different paradigm with your family, and that's more important. Right. And I think that's what I want to model for my kids, right? Like, yes, I want, I want them to want to spend time with me as an adult. And I want them to, whereas I don't have that with my family. It's kind of like an obligation sometimes. And so I want to have better relationships overall. Yeah, well, you're doing the work to get there.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for calling in. Yes. Good luck with perimenopause. I'll be there in a few years, I'm sure. Thank you, my love. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Bye. I like that you're just going to go around sweating, you know? Like, in the meantime, like, what steps? I don't know what to do. I just found out about this. From me. I diagnosed you last night. You have to go to your OBGYN.
Starting point is 00:51:14 You have one, right? I have a vagina, of course. Okay. Do you think people don't have women, there are women that don't have an OBGYN? I don't know. I mean, some people don't. Yeah, some people just don't have doctors that they go to regularly. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:51:27 I'm on my charts all the time. My brother doesn't go to a doctor ever, ever. They never, both of my brothers never go. Maybe it's a male thing. That's a man thing too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't think they need to check out anything. What's next, Catherine?
Starting point is 00:51:39 Well, our next question, this one's just an email, not a caller. It's a little bit tricky, but Yamanika, I listened to your conversation with TS Madison about tricky trans questions, which I would really recommend to anyone. It's a great conversation. I learned so much. Nice. How do people listen to it? It's on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:51:56 So just look up T.S. Madison and Yamanika Saunders and you will find it. And if you want to try and spell Yamanika, good luck. Y-A-M-A-N-E-I-K-A. Thank you. Yes. So I thought you'd be a perfect person for this question. Okay. Summer says...
Starting point is 00:52:11 And shout out to T.S., by the way. I love T.S. Madison. I mean, yes, the best. And also shout out to Yamaha, which is how I pronounced your first name. I know what you're trying to say. I can't stand you. Well, the subject line is, My ex is a woman now.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Am I the asshole for blocking? Dear Chelsea, Last week, I looked at my blocked profiles and noticed that my ex was no longer on there. I figured they had gotten off of social media. I hadn't talked to them in almost a decade. This morning, I saw someone sent me a message request. It was my ex, but I guess they're a trans woman now, based on the name change and profile photos. Sorry to message you out of the blue, but I woke up today with the memory that today might be your birthday. If it is, then I hope you have a great day. BTW, it's not my birthday. I don't have fond memories of this ex. I lost my virginity to this person and not by consent.
Starting point is 00:52:58 It was my first serious relationship. We went to high school together and dated in my first year of college. Two years after we broke up, we connected again, and I met their wife and two daughters. I liked his wife and daughters, but I got a reminder of why I did not talk to them, her, and blocked them after a couple of interactions for the next decade. Am I the asshole for wanting to keep blocking their profiles? Summer. I mean, they changed genders, not personality.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I mean, wants to dig a dick. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't understand if you lost your virginity to them without your consent, and then you dated the person? That's a trauma. Sometimes that's a trauma response to an essay. You become victimized, and it's weird. So I feel bad for that, and I understand the trauma.
Starting point is 00:53:44 What I'm telling you is I think this person may think that they're transphobic because they're doing this because this has nothing to do with transphobia. No, it has nothing to do with that. That person's an asshole. That's a personality, right? Yeah. That's a spirit thing.
Starting point is 00:53:59 You can't transition your spirit. You understand? You was born with a shitty spirit. You're going to keep a shitty spirit until you talk to somebody about your shitty spirit. So keep the person blocked. Yeah, I agree. And save yourself. They don't deserve your energy.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Yeah, no, what? Yeah, agreed. Agreed. And then also maybe like if you're not already in therapy, like check some of that out just So you can release some anger and work through some of the stuff that happened because that's serious stuff. Okay, well, let's take a quick break and we'll have a quickie to wrap up. Okay, we'll be right back with Yamanika Saunders. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense.
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Starting point is 00:55:01 Bell, connection is everything. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months. I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the Survivor Files. I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable.
Starting point is 00:55:32 I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:56:03 If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed.
Starting point is 00:56:33 From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table it's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters and that is a trojan horse whether you're looking for literary deep dives smart pop culture conversations or a community of readers who love to think a little too much you're in the right place listen to pro society on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. On the new podcast Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro and I travel by myself because
Starting point is 00:57:19 it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip,
Starting point is 00:57:55 I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back with Yamanika Saunders. Do you want to, um, when was the last time you had sex, by the way? I wish you would ask me that question. I did. I just did. You sent me a box. Chelsea sent me, not even a box. You know the boxes where you order a Christmas tree, right?
Starting point is 00:58:25 from Amazon, and they send you a large box. They can't even break the shit up. She sent me that size box of vibrators, dildos, and machines that can lick your vagina without your assistance. And one of them, one was in a baggie. Don't even, not even like a bag. Like, I'm talking about a glass, like one of them, yellow and blue makes green, you know, all that shit.
Starting point is 00:58:52 she sent me that look and it was greasy then she sent me the wheel because i wanted to use the one with the licking thing because i'd never had it before she sent me the one that she she didn't even wipe it down the the wipe it down the lube was so stuck on there it melted into the thing i was it was you ever seen a mechanic when he got from underneath the hood of a car and all it like Like the transmission fluid dropped down on his face and he had to open it. He looked like an inkwell. It was like that. I could not believe it.
Starting point is 00:59:28 What you do to your vagina, Chelsea, is insane. But I do currently have three of them in rotation and the wands. We saw them last night at her house. And I have some out in the front room. I can't get rid of them. None of the vibrators I sent you had been used by me. I get lots of swag sent to my house. I know you didn't send me a vibrator from my house.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I told Carlos, who works with me, to get all the vibrators out of the house and to send them to Yamanika. Because I know how horny you are. I know how horny you are. I've been listening. I hear you. I see how you interact with men. And you need, like, a constant penetration of some sort. So as a gesture of friendship, I said, you know who could really put these fucking vibrators to use?
Starting point is 01:00:13 The one that was used, I can't speak to because I've never used any of those. But I did have a friend who came from Whistler who stayed at my house. And when she saw my, I have a table where people send all of their, you know, when a celebrity comes out with a vibrator, they send it to me. Or, you know, whoever, whatever brand. And my friend came downstairs and she goes, oh, my God, you're never going to believe this vibrator, whatever it was. It was like a double whoopsie doodle, like one in your asshole and one in your,
Starting point is 01:00:38 she goes, this is amazing. This is amazing. She goes, you have to try this. And I'm like, well, I'm not. You sent me that. I'm not going to, no, all I, let me finish. I said, I am not going to use the vibrator that you used. Are you fucking serious?
Starting point is 01:00:52 I looked at my friend. I go, are you, you think I'm going to use your, by the way, my friend was here going to medical appointments. She was seeing a bevy of doctors to make sure that she wasn't diagnosed with something very bad. And in during that time, I go, at what point during this week of medical appointments, did you feel horny? Like, that's what I couldn't understand.
Starting point is 01:01:12 So if there was a used one, my conjecture is that that was hers that she left in the spare bedroom that was wrapped up probably by my housekeeper, my belle, if she didn't use it also, because she also masturbates at the house sometimes, I've been told. And then she sent that to you. And I'm sorry that you got a used vibrator, but I would encourage you to wash it and use it again. You said, let me finish. Like, when you got finished, it was all going to make sense. it was worse the more I let you finish you mean to tell me
Starting point is 01:01:45 you let me you sent me through the mail can somebody google if this is a hate crime and I want the post office to get involved I want you to not be able to send letters I want you to tell me Chelsea that you sent me the vibrator
Starting point is 01:02:01 of a bitch who was in your crib who was having current vaginal appointments with a doctor it was going over her vagina no no not vaginal she wasn't saying about a vagina she was talking to doctors about a different condition that had nothing to do with her vagina
Starting point is 01:02:17 any condition I put that shit in my pussy bitch I know I know you did and you're gonna do it again what's the last question Catherine do we have we do we do our last question comes from one of our rare straight male listeners
Starting point is 01:02:33 dear Chelsea I recently got an invitation to my ex-girlfriend's wedding. We dated for about a year and then had an amicable breakup. We remained friends after we split up, but I feel at odds with going to the wedding because about six months into her relationship with her now-fiancé, we hooked up a few times, and I don't know if she ever told him that. They've been together for over three years now, and he seems great, so I want to be supportive of her, but part of me feels guilty about being there. Should I go or just blow it off? Thanks, Zach. That sounds like a straight man's question. Wow. We don't get a lot of straight men calling into this podcast. First of all, I really appreciate that because being sensitive to all of those different kind of nuances of what happened.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Yeah, I understand feeling weird about that. And I probably would skip the wedding. Here's my thing. If he's going to maintain a friendship with her and he already has a friendship with her and him, it is going to look weird that he's not at the wedding. so you know he has to think about that as well I think he needs to address like what is his feelings
Starting point is 01:03:34 for her you know cause if you still hooking up what does she feel about this guy why are they hooking up well that was
Starting point is 01:03:39 that was before they've now been together for like two and a half years the first six months she said they were he said that they've been hooking up but Zach I would say
Starting point is 01:03:46 yeah I would skip the wedding cause like the husband don't skip it Zach really I'm telling you the husband doesn't know and like if he knew
Starting point is 01:03:54 that someone was there that she had fooled around with he's friends with them That's what I'm saying. But the husband doesn't know about them fooling around. Right. Probably. But if, okay, your ex, y'all friends, now we all friends, and we get married,
Starting point is 01:04:08 and all of a sudden your ex, who's our friend, is not at our wedding, oh, y'all must have slept together then. That's the first thing I would think. If my partner's ex, who we're all friends with, doesn't show up to our wedding. Okay, so go. No, because, yeah, you just, no. you have to go to the wedding what you need to do is
Starting point is 01:04:29 get over that you fucked with her and just move on cause clearly I guess they moving on they getting married and just start a clean slate yeah that's true that's true I'm just thinking of the husband I'm thinking of the husband like how would you feel to know that your girlfriend your wife is someone
Starting point is 01:04:45 she was cheating on you with is at the wedding and you don't know no I understand that Chelsea what I'm saying is I don't know how if he's friends with them now that because it's all about what the husband's going to think is he ever going to tell him that they did that he's not going to tell them so why would you raise a better point I guess I guess you could so Zach great I mean one one piece of advice and then a different piece of advice so problems problem solved problem has been solved I love you Chelsea I really do I wish I didn't
Starting point is 01:05:19 in so many ways you're problematic. But, you know, I love you. I just really do. I love you, too. Okay, that's us for today. Follow Yamanika on Instagram, you guys. Please give her love on Instagram so that they stop fucking...
Starting point is 01:05:32 Yes, and YouTube, too. Please, just give her on YouTube. And go watch that special. It's really important for our whole audience. It's called White Nigga. You can type it in, white people, and just clear your history. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Well, have fun at the mammogram, you two. Thank you. Yeah, I'm going to get my boobs looked at, too. I was like, uh-oh. Thank you. Okay, my remaining dates for Vegas. There are remaining dates for this year. Summertime is coming and I will be in Vegas at the Cosmo
Starting point is 01:05:59 doing my residency on August 30th and then November 1st and 29th. November 1st and November 29th. I will be in Las Vegas at the Cosmo performing inside myself at the Chelsea. It's called Chelsea at the Chelsea for a reason. Okay. Thank you. Do you want advice from Chelsea? Write into DearChelseaPodcast at gmail.com.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Find full video episodes of Dear Chelsea on YouTube by searching at Dear Chelsea Pod. Dear Chelsea is edited and engineered by Brad Dickert, executive producer, Catherine Law. And be sure to check out our merch at ChelseaHandler.com. i survived nine months in captivity and i've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them i'm elizabeth smart and these are the survivor files every week i'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable abducted stalked controlled and nearly silenced. These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
Starting point is 01:07:12 you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Pro Society is a weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. Each week, we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and pop culture with your favorite writers, book talk creators, and plenty of overthought opinions. Yeah, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Did you hear the new episode of the Hey Jonas podcast?
Starting point is 01:07:47 We are at D23, so we'll see who stops by. The cast of Frozen stopped by. Kristen Bell, Josh Gad, and Idina Menzel. I auditioned for Frozen. What? For Kristoff. They said, okay, what are you going to be singing today? I said, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:59 That must have been why you didn't get in. Oh, you probably won. Plus, John Stamos, Hayden Christensen from Star Wars, and more. And I guess I can share that, uh... No way. Listen to the latest episode of Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita,
Starting point is 01:08:17 we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus, or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle, I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita,
Starting point is 01:08:39 trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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