Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Does This Make Me Funny? With Zosia Mamet
Episode Date: September 25, 2025Zosia Mamet joins Chelsea to talk about surviving an eating disorder, the time Nyquil-induced hallucinations almost got her fired from Girls, and why being a nepito baby isn’t all it’s cra...cked up to be. Then: A Chicagoan wonders if he should give up his pastime as a comment warrior. And a soon-to-be-groom has reservations about inviting his mother to the wedding. * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaPodcast@gmail.com * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees. This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi, Catherine.
Hi, Chelsea.
Hi. What day is it today? Today's Thursday because our podcast comes out on Thursday.
Yes.
And I have some very exciting news for our listeners. I just announced all my tour dates.
They just went on sale this week. It's called the High and Mighty Tour. I will be starting
debuting my new material. Well, I've already started debuting my new material,
but in an organized tour form in February of next year. So I'm coming to Washington,
D.C., Norfolk, Virginia, Madison, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Detroit, Michigan,
Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati, Ohio, Denver, Colorado, Portland, Maine, Providence,
Rhode Island, Springfield, Massachusetts, Chicago, of course, Indianapolis, Indiana,
Louisville, Kentucky, Albuquerque, Mesa, Arizona, Kansas City, Missouri, St. Louis, Missouri,
Minneapolis, Minnesota, Nashville, Tennessee, Charlotte, North Carolina, Durham, North
of Carolina, Saratoga, California, Monterey, California, Modesto, California, and Port Chester,
New York, Boston, Massachusetts, Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington. I will be touring from
February through June. Those are the cities that I'm in. Presale started last week, so tickets are
flying. I haven't added second shows yet, but we probably will be to some of these. So go get your
tickets now. If you want good seats and you want to come see me perform, I will be on the high and
mighty tour. Yay. Fantastic. Yeah. What do you have going on this weekend? This weekend? Well,
last weekend was more interesting because I got home Friday night at five in the morning. I went
to go see The Who at the Hollywood Bowl, which was so much fucking fun. He's 81 years old,
Roger Daltrey. He's a fucking nugget. I was in love with him. Of course, had my LSD, so that
was like had me pumping and he was just so just vivacious I couldn't believe this guy is 81 years
old and Pete Townsend and it was just so fucking fun going to the Hollywood Bowl we had a great
time and then we went out to another party so I got home late that night around three then the
next night I went to Paris Hilton's party which I thought was a birthday party but it was a house
warming party to a house I'm pretty sure I've been to before so I'm not really anyway that was a
really fun night too. And then I ended up going to another party after that. And I was out until
six in the morning. I mean, this is a wild woman. Yeah. This is like me living in my thirties again.
And then on Sunday I had to cancel. Like I got a, there's a, a, uh, uh, what are those massages
where they kind of go into your, you know, the drainage lymphatic. Yeah. I had my, uh, Karen was
texting me saying your masseuse is here. I'm like, what? I'm like, I just got to sleep. No,
thank you. Please pay her and tell her
I'm sorry. And then canceled
about three more things and then I went to my friend
DJ's and she made us all dinner for Sunday
night. Oh, how lovely. It was a very jam-packed
weekend. Yeah. I am going to the
Hollywood Bowl actually for the first time in years
this weekend, or no, tomorrow to see
Pulp. Oh, I saw them at Glastonbury.
You did? Fucking best. Were they great? Yes.
I'm so excited. Yeah. They're like one of my
favorite, all-time favorite bands and I've never
seen them live. Oh, yeah. They were amazing. Oh, I'm
jealous. When are they playing? Friday. So
it's, yeah, it's tomorrow. I'm heading to
away for the weekend. So I won't be able to go to the Hollywood Bowl, but I would have
gone back for them. Oh, heck yeah. Yeah, for sure. Our guest today is best known for her
roles on The Flight Attendant and Girls. She's here to talk about her very new book, Does
This Make Me Funny? Please welcome actor and writer, Zosia Mamet. Hi. Hi, cutie pie. How
are you? What's shaking, Bacon? What's shaking? Zosia Mamet is here with us today. She's here
promoting her new book. This is not her first book. This is her second book because she wrote,
well, a kind of a cookbook and a kind of a memoir. I don't know, essays?
Well, it was an anthology. So like I didn't entirely write it myself. I got, I like hoodwinked
a bunch of other really smart, talented people to write it for me.
That's what I do when I get bored with anything. I'm like, how do I continue this without actually
contributing? But this book you did write yourself and this is more of a memoir, I would say, right?
Yeah, that word makes me want to like pull my teeth out one by one, but yes.
Does it make your vagina close tight?
When things really annoy me, my vagina starts to hurt or shut.
Yeah, just like fully.
Why do you hate the word memoir?
I feel like I don't like deserve to have written a memoir, I guess.
Okay, well, that's a great place to start because this whole book is basically you not
believing you deserve anything which is uh before you got on Catherine and I were talking about you
comparing and she was saying it's generational and I was missing I was like no it's it's it's
your whole generation that doesn't feel deserving of things and she's like no she was talking about
your father who's David Mamet of course having it and I was like isn't that intergenerational
that would be like the whole family doesn't feel like they're enough oh yeah sure but I think it
it's both things it's intergenerational and generational if we're getting down to the brass
tacks of things it's all of the above it's all of the above anyway it's a book of essays and that's
a better way to describe it that's how i describe my books as well because i've written so many that
how could it possibly be a memoir even though each one is they are just essays and stories that i
want to share which this book does and the book is called does this make me funny and there's a
really, really adorable picture of you on the cover as a little girl. So I want to talk about
you calling yourself a B minus Nepo baby at best. I want to talk a little bit about Nepo babies
because I just had this conversation. I went to the U.S. Open and Jessica Pagula, who was playing
at the U.S. Open. I don't know if you're familiar with her. She's a great tennis player. She made it
to like, I guess, the semifinals. Her father is some big magnate of some business. I'm not sure
which one. He's a billionaire though, right? So he had come into the US Open on his mega yacht
to watch her at the finals. And there were people talking about that. And I was with my trainer
talking about it. And he goes, it makes me so crazy that anyone could think that you could get
to that level just because your father has money. And I said, well, it's about money and access.
But at the end of the day, you have to have the talent to sustain your ability to get more than
one job. If you're going to base that on one job, it's not like your parents, you're in every movie
with your fucking father, you know, and every show with your father. Look, like Jessica Springsteen
had parents who could allot her the opportunity, but like Bruce Springsteen did not get her to
the Olympics. Also, Bruce Springsteen sings and she rides horses. One thousand percent. So it's
So fucking like maybe my family is like slightly closer together.
But like I'm I mean, I now have written a book, but like I certainly wasn't doing exactly what my dad did.
Right. No. And also nepotism doesn't replace talent.
People aren't going to continue to hire somebody because of their parents.
Like that's just not the way that it works when there's other people that would could be more talented if they if they could hire them.
they're hiring a favor it happens once it doesn't happen over and over and over again and also with
regard to Jessica like there's this background story when she had withstood like major back
injuries major rehabilitation major like things that went awry earlier in her career that she
had to recover from and also you know have a determination to actually improve upon and get
better and better so arguably she had to fight even harder and what I would say is in my experience
in this business, I find that people who have famous parents like yourself actually many times
have to work harder. It's interesting. I was having that conversation with Billie Lord recently,
and we were talking about how I think she's the best ever. Yeah, she's so great. But like,
there is this misconception that we are handed it so easily and that we don't have to work hard for
it. And people forget that you do actually have to be good at what you're doing. And so I think
people often try to create higher, harder, more obstacles for us because they have a chip on their
shoulder about it. Absolutely. That's what I think. And it's not a blanket statement. I'm sure there
are some celebrity kids that maybe aren't that talented that are getting more opportunities than
others, but you almost have to prove yourself even more because people are like, oh, well,
you're not just going to fly by on your mother or your father's name. You actually have to prove
yourself. And I'm sure that this isn't the case for everybody, but like Billy and I were talking,
it's not as if our parents were like, here's a fully financed movie with a leading role for you
that's going to hopefully win you an Oscar. Like they were not helping us in any way. Like my dad
never gave me a job. My dad never told someone else to give me a job. Like, you know, we were
just saying our parents aren't just handing out legs up, you know, here, there, and everywhere.
We happen to have maybe access. And I honestly think the greatest thing that growing up in a
famous family in the industry allotted me was knowledge. Like, I just got to see what it was
actually like. So I went into it without any misconceptions. But that's also another point.
It's like if you have two parents that are in the industry of entertainment, it's not like you're going to be attracted to plumbing and you're going to say, oh, I want to or accounting or any of the other vocations.
It's natural for children to have two parents that are in some industry to also become a person that is in that industry.
Yeah.
Even if they're lawyers or plumbers, like you said.
I'm very defensive on your behalf.
I hope you can feel my aggravation.
Fantastic.
I sound like I'm a nepo baby, but I wanted to be a nepo baby.
That would have been a dream come true for me, but no.
Okay, this is something that you talk about in the very first chapter,
the introduction of your book that I just want to read on the podcast
because I thought it was so fucking bold and great
and such a thing that a man could do.
She's talking about her dad, and he walked in to a producer in Chicago
with a copy of his first Broadway play, American Buffalo,
and without a penny to his name,
he threw the play down on the producer's desks.
They had hard copies in those days
and said, if that play doesn't win the Pulitzer Prize,
I'll pay you $5,000.
It did not, but the next one did.
The brazenness of that
and the confidence of that
is like, it's what I want for every woman to feel.
I know, it's pretty crazy, right?
Like never a day, never a day in my life
or if I did that immediately followed by an apology yeah yeah I mean we still say we're
sorry if we cough yeah like I'm sorry I could get to the point of doing it and then the second I
had finished being like I am powerful woman hear me where I'd be like I'm so sorry that was really
inappropriate I I didn't actually I'm I'm I'm gonna leave your lunches on me like yeah I also
Oh, hey, when we say I'm sorry, when we start to cry, we always go, I'm so sorry.
It's like, why?
Why are we sorry that we're crying?
We're feeling emotions.
When we correct someone else's mistake, it's like, I'm sorry, but this is actually, no,
don't be sorry.
I know.
There's too much material to talk about that.
I mean, please.
I'm sorry, but you're reading that book upside down.
I'm really sorry, but yeah.
Okay.
You say something here, and this is something I talk a lot about on this podcast, whether
it's writers, actors, you say, I didn't yet have the career I want, and I spend an
unhealthy amount of time thinking about women my age who do and wishing them not harm per se,
but maybe hoping that they change their names and move to Siberia for a few years and give me a shot
at bat for a while. To most people, I've had a very successful career for which I am eternally
grateful. I would like to talk about jealousy a little bit and envy because I also feel like that
is a healthy, normal feeling for anyone in any part of the world. It doesn't matter what industry
you're in to feel. There's nothing wrong with feeling envy. It's acting on envy where things
become problematic. So I love that you wrote that in the book. Do you want to talk a little bit
about that? Yeah, I do think that it's normal. I think it would be weird if we didn't feel that
way. I do think that it can reach an unhealthy, abnormal level in this industry, specifically
amongst women because I think we're fed this idea in the entertainment industry I mean I don't know
I guess being a woman in general in any industry that there's a finite amount of pie to be had
and so if someone else gets a piece of it that means that there's less for you
and I just don't think at the end of the day that that's actually accurate I think that that's
untrue. And like, if you want to get really heady, part of me is like, is that a deep-seated
move on the patriarchy? Because like, if we were to all band together, we would just be too
fucking powerful to like kind of pit us against each other. I think that's absolutely true. I
mean, that's the whole point of it. I mean, because women are just now coming to the realization that
we are stronger together, you know, and that all ships do rise with the tide. I think that's
really accurate. I think they all, I have to say that a lot, but I think this is an industry that
is so success oriented. Like it, you're not getting brownie points for the script you wrote
that didn't get produced, you know, like, and the most talented, nice person doesn't always get the
job. And so I think it can foster a sort of unhealthy comparison game. I was just going to
say comparison. Yeah. And so I think, I think that it is healthy to a certain extent. I think
it is 1000% normal, but I think specifically in this industry, I do a lot of work trying to check
myself of just like, Mamet, stay in your own lane. Just stay in your, like, stop doing this and just
like stay in your own lane. You have a pretty heartbreaking chapter in here about school as
a young girl and going to school because your parents split up before you were even a year old
And then you were living in Cambridge initially, right?
And then you moved with your mother.
And then that created some separation between you and your dad.
And then they both went on to have other children and other families.
So your first kind of formative years at school were brutal.
It was kind of, you know, really triggering to read because, I mean, we've all been there, you know, and some worse than others.
but yours sounded like you withstood that trauma for as long as you possibly could and then had to
say, I can't do this anymore. Yeah. And like too long looking back on it, but also, oh, I was a
kid and I didn't know, I didn't really know that I could say that, but yeah, it got to the point
where I was unable to handle it. Like those, all the kids, but I think those girls in particular
were really, they just seemed to live to make my life miserable.
Why don't you tell us the story about the birthday party and revealing,
being invited to the birthday party and having to call and find out what time it was?
Yeah, I mean, this is like a perfect example. They would pull this shit all the time.
They would sort of lure me into asking a question about some things. They were talking about
something in front of me. And I was like, what are you guys talking about? They were like,
oh, we're talking about, I forgot what I renamed the girl. Evie's birthday party. Yeah. And I was
like, oh, when is it? And they were like, it's on Saturday. I was like, what time? They're like,
we're not sure. You should call her and ask what time it is. Like, she hasn't told any of us. So
we're waiting to find out. And I was like, okay, great. So then I go home and I call Evie. I'm
like, hey, Evie, all the girls were talking about your birthday party on Saturday. And they told me
to call you and ask what time it is. What time is it? And then she started hysterically sobbing
and hung up the phone. And then I get a call from a bunch of the girls, you know, a couple
minutes later, chastising me for ruining Evie's surprise birthday party. So they would just set
these traps for me. Like mind games.
1,000% mind games. They were full, like, Machiavellian, these young little blonde ladies.
I mean, young little girls are brutal. And for every woman here who's listening to this podcast,
like anyone who has children, it is so important to teach your children kindness and compassion
and not to be bullies. Like I've had friends whose daughters have been bullies and they were
in complete denial about it because they chose to believe their daughter was a bully. It is so
important. I mean, it is torturous when you are young and in defense, like you don't know how to
defend yourself and you don't know where to go or who to talk to. And, you know, it leads to so many
problems in life. And for, for like, I saw this beautiful video yesterday on Instagram of this
boy wrestling at this wrestling match. And, and he, he was wrestling this kid who had cerebral
palsy, who, whose team allowed him to compete, you know, at this level, they were looked like
they were in, you know, sixth or seventh grade. And the kid from the other school immediately
recognized, you know, how easy it would be to beat this kid. And he sat there with him and let him
like slowly, slowly help this guy wrestle him to the ground so that he would win that match.
And every comment was like, whoever raised this boy did such a beautiful job. And like,
and that's what I think about with regard to bullying. It's like your parents have to be
paying attention to how their children, especially young girls, because they are brutal. And I know
that we have problems with young boys too, but girls are just so mean to each other. And like,
you cannot have your child behaving that way.
And it's very illustrative in this book of what you went through.
So I think people are going to really like, you know,
I know I went through some hell growing up too.
And then you end up becoming a bully.
You either end up retreating and having an eating disorder,
this disorder, you know, having no self-esteem,
or you end up becoming the bully that bullied you
in order to defend yourself.
So, but your story is also great
because that woman or that girl at the time
who's named Evie in the book
comes to see you during,
was it the play on Broadway
when she came with her father?
We were off Broadway.
It was the play that I met my husband doing.
We were doing it at the Lortel.
And tell us what happened.
She came.
Yeah, so I left one night
and the security guard told me
that someone had left a note for me
while we were on stage.
And he gave me the note
and I hadn't thought about this girl
in over a decade.
And I guess she and her dad
had been walking by the theater and they had seen my name on the marquee and they'd written a note
and left it with the box office and it was in her like you know little curly q scroll and she's like
oh my god sashi we're so proud of you and it just made my blood run cold it like took me back to
that little girl with her playing these horrible mind games on me. And it made me so angry because
I think that feeling pride for someone innately involves a type of ownership is the wrong word,
but like you had a hand in that when you're like, I'm so proud of you. It normally means that like
you have a deep connection to that person, or maybe you had a hand in them accomplishing
whatever this thing was. And it made me so deeply furious. I was like, you don't get to be proud of
me. You don't get to have that. And I tore up the note and I ground it into the New York sidewalk
with my boot. So you don't know that they saw the play? They didn't see the play. They literally
just walked by and saw my name on the marquee, which also I was just like, that's okay. I don't
know. It wasn't even like they paid for and bought a ticket and came to see what I did.
Exactly. Let's talk about your eating disorder. And I say that in an upbeat tone for no reason
whatsoever, but just because I'm assuming that you're out of the woods on that issue. Am I
correct? No, we're good. You talk a lot about this and about this number in your head, 100 pounds,
100 pounds. That was the right weight. And even when you went underneath 100 pounds to 92 pounds
to 93 pounds, you were sick, you were using drugs, you were partying, you were escaping.
Talk to us a little bit about that for the people that are listening with children and girls that
are experiencing that that are listening? You know, I think the biggest misconception about
an eating disorder is that that it's about the weight and that it's about the food, which like
obviously, yes, that is an aspect of it. But at its core, it's about control. And it it's born
from this need to control when you feel out of control. And so food and your weight feel like
these very tangible things when like the thing that probably is making you feel out of control
is not tangible whatsoever. Like for me, it was my circumstance, my surroundings,
the kids that I was in school with, my home life. And so my anxiety eating disorder brain
latched onto this number that felt like if I can just achieve that number, then all of these
feelings of fear and worthlessness and sadness will go away and I will finally feel safe.
But obviously that wasn't true because I hit that number and none of those feelings went away and I
didn't feel safe. And so I was like, okay, well, maybe it's still that number, but I just have to
try harder. It's like your brain starts to make excuses as to why the thing you've decided is
the answer is still the answer when obviously it very much isn't. And so I just kept trying
to reach a hundred pounds. It was a sort of amorphous goal in my mind that seemed like
the silver bullet to all of my problems. And it really wasn't. It was actually just
slowly killing me. And how did you finally come out of that? Did you go into treatment?
I almost went into in treatment. I didn't. And honestly, looking back on it, I do not envy a
parent who is dealing with this. I can only like it was obviously hard for me. I think it was so
much harder for my dad to feel helpless as well on the other side of it. And I'm sure it is so hard
to put a kid in treatment. And he tried and I fought back really hard. And I honestly wish
that I had because I think my recovery wouldn't have taken as long. You know, I think in treatment
programs are there for a reason, but really I have my dad to credit with finally turning the
ship around. I was really in a bad way. I'd seen a lot of doctors who basically were like,
you are you're dying that's what's happening like your body is disintegrating and you're dying
and how brittle your bones were that they told you like you know if you fell down you
you could potentially break your pelvis like that you had just had no nutrition no nutrition not
yeah I had I had arthritis I couldn't ride horses anymore I could like barely walk up a set of
stairs like I had uh I had issues with my heart it was it was really bad and my dad came home
from a dinner party one night where he'd sat next to someone whose daughter had recently gone
through the same thing and had sort of come out the other side. And he ended up opening up to her
and she talked to him for the whole dinner party. And she gave him the number of this woman who
would then become my therapist, who was incredible and fully saved my life. But he came home and I
was up reading in my bedroom and he came into my room and he sat on my bed. And my dad, as I'm sure
you can imagine is like a very strong oftentimes very stoic person and I'd never seen him cry
and he started crying and he put his head in my lap and he said you have to promise me that you
won't die and he just kept saying it over and over again and it was the first time that I realized
that what was happening to me wasn't just about me. And it was really my wake-up call. And I
realized that if I died, it wouldn't just affect me. It would also affect him. And I was like,
okay, well, I don't want to do that to him. I don't really care about me yet, but I don't want
to do that to him. Yeah. Wow. That's really moving. It's amazing when, you know, somebody
can say something like that to you and it has the impact that is strong enough to make you quit the
thing or to make you understand that you have to quit the thing that is going to destroy you
and destroy the lives of the people that love you. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about some, let's talk
about girls. Let's talk about getting that role and working with Lena and how that experience
changed your life. I mean, first of all, best fucking show ever. I'm so great. So fucking
awesome. I mean, I remember watching that show the first time. I was like, this is going to be
a huge... Because I think I was interviewing Lena probably on Chelsea Lately or maybe my other talk
show. So I saw it before it was out and I got to watch the whole series. I was like, this is going
to be fucking huge. And of course it was because it was just exactly what everybody needed. It was
like your generation's Sex and the City. Just such a coming of age in New York City. So funny,
so well cast. All of everybody in it was incredible. So tell us about getting that part,
how that happened. I was shooting this movie, this like truly terrible indie film in upstate New York
with horrible conditions, like, you know, 19, 20 hour days all told. And we were meant to be
cheating early September and it was late October and it was the coldest October on record.
It was so cold that the farmers were all like, there will be no pumpkins for Halloween because our crops have frozen.
So it was like some sort of record-breaking cold.
And I was always, basically 90% of the movie was exteriors.
And I was always in this tank top trash bag dress.
It was like literally a dress made of trash bags that I had to get ironed into every day, which is really looking back on it like should have been my first sign that this was not going to be a good experience.
because I was like literally wearing trash. And I got this audition. We were shooting six-day
week. So I had one day off and I convinced this young PA not to go to church with her husband and
her newborn baby and instead stay behind and help me film this audition in our production office,
which was an abandoned barn that had very bad Wi-Fi. And I'm pretty technologically inept.
So we filmed the audition.
It takes me like seven hours to get the tape to send to my agent, which almost doesn't happen.
At like hour three or four, I was like, I give up.
I can't get this to send.
It keeps saying your file is too large.
And he was like, please, please, please, please.
I really need your tape.
I think this show is going to be a really big deal.
So I finally get in my tape.
I end up getting the job.
we happen to have the Monday off that the table read is scheduled for in Manhattan and at this
point I've developed pneumonia from these long days shooting in the colds in my trash bag dress
but the producers have paid off a local doctor to tell me that I just have a head cold so that I can
keep working they pay how did you find that out the PA's talk you know what I mean so the woman
who was like the PA that I spent the most time with ended up giving me the skinny. Also, I sort
of put it together anyways because she kept showing up and listening to me like breathe in
and literally it sounded like, you know, like a water cooler in my lungs. There was so much fluid
and she would be like, just take some echinacea. I was like, I feel like we're beyond that.
Yeah. Echinacea. That's like when people talk about melatonin. It's like, please.
Yeah, I was so sick. I was like at death's door. I would cough so hard I'd throw up like it was not cute. So I came in that Sunday night before and I stayed with a friend of mine in the city. And I was like, I really want to be I want to be on my A game tomorrow. I was super nervous. It's like I need to get a good night's sleep so I can like be with it tomorrow morning.
So I took some NyQuil. And I'm sure I took NyQuil before this, but I don't really have a recollection of doing so. But I now know that NyQuil and I don't mesh well. I don't remember much about the following morning.
I remember getting in the car. I remember it was raining. I remember getting to Silver Crop Studios, walking into the table read. I remember being introduced to Lena Dunham and Judd Apatow and shaking their hands.
And then I literally do not remember anything, like nothing. It is a full void until I woke up
on my friend's floor, who I was staying with, like drenched in sweat. And I had this weird
sort of fever dream recollection that I, in the middle of the table read, had like projectile
vomited on the table. But I also didn't know if that was real or not because I was still sort of
in a NyQuil haze. So I called my agent freaking out and I was like, so this may have happened,
but I'm not sure. And he was like, okay, calm down. I'm sure it's going to be fine.
I'm going to call the executives. I'll get back to you. Meanwhile, I had to like get on a train
and hightail it back to hell town upstate New York
to finish shooting this movie
that I wore a trash bag dress in.
And I don't hear from him for a full week.
During which I'm like, yeah, that face, exactly.
I'm like, like the whole-
How did you not continue to call him
and call him and call him?
Yeah, and he, like, I would call him,
but he was like, I haven't heard from them.
And I was like, oh my God.
So obviously I'm fired.
like for sure no question I'm fired but like beyond that they're they're gonna tell everybody
I'm a drug addict they're gonna tell everybody not to work with me like I'm fucked so then after a
week of just full spiral he calls me and he's like the reason it took them so long to get back to us
is that they were amending your contract they loved what you did so much at the table read that
they want to make you a series regular because initially the show was written for three girls,
not four. And they were like, they want to make you the fourth girl.
Oh, that's so fucking awesome. I mean, who knows what happened during that table read?
Maybe that's how you should go into all table reads.
Truly. I'm like, do I just take NyQuil always?
You should just get like a vaccine the day you have to go in. Yeah.
I just got my polio booster vaccine yesterday since there's polio going around all of a sudden
again okay and they were like oh you might be sick for the next few days and I was like oh
that's what you're describing I mean basically I could have symptoms I don't have them but because
I'm a fucking horse but um oh that's really funny and so what was it like how was it how was it what
was it like working with Lena and the other girls it was just a dream like that whole we shot that
show all told from like shooting the pilot to our last episode was seven years. I spent my 20s
shooting that show. I like the number seven as a time of work. I feel like the reason that there's
a phrase, a seven year itch, because it's so true. Like seven years is a great amount of time to
spend in a relationship, on a job. Like seven years is a good like chunk and it's, it doesn't
take away, like it's a great addition and it doesn't, it's not too long when you, like when
you have a good experience with something, it's just the perfect amount of time, I think.
There's something about the number seven. It's a good amount of time. Yeah.
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Okay, so this book is filled with lots of stories.
Some are really sad, some are really sweet,
and some are really moving,
and some are really, really funny.
Yes, I would say this book,
I think this book does make you funny.
That's the title of the book,
Does This Make Me Funny?
I think you're already funny, so it was good that you put it down on paper.
How did you decide to write this right now?
So it wasn't my decision.
When I pitched that book, my first Popsicle, the woman who ended up becoming my editor
at Penguin, this woman, Meg Letter, who's amazing, had asked if I would consider doing
a two-book deal and doing Popsicle first, but then following it up with a book of essays.
and this was like five years ago at this point maybe more that's a very interesting way for the
publishing industry to work before you've proven yourself to give you offer you a two-book deal
though well i think she'd read my essays in glamour and so i think she was like oh i've i've
since learned that anthologies are very hard they're hard for people to put together they're
hard for people to sell. I was like, what could be cooler than like a bunch of amazing people
all in the same place writing their stories? But I guess I'm sort of maybe alone in that or I'm not.
That's not the popular thought. So she kind of agreed to do my anthology essay idea. But really
what she had wanted was this book of essays. And I was super shocked that she asked for that.
I was like, I mean, I write this column for Glamour, but like who wants to read a full book
of my essays? But I said yes, because I'm an actor and I'll say yes to any job anyone wants to give
me that they pay me money for. Pretty much. I just like didn't think it would ever actually
happen. Like I think in my brain, I was like, yeah, I'm saying yes to this, but we're going
to do this anthology. And then like, I don't know, but they'll probably forget about this one
or they'll like change their mind or something.
And it takes so long to write and publish a book.
I mean, you know, it's like,
it takes like 7,000 years
from the moment you start writing.
The process can only be described as tedious and annoying
because you are so creative.
You feel like you're putting so much in.
And then what follows all the creative bursts and blasts
and all of this like catharsis and sharing is so tedious.
you know, once they put the book actually together, it's just like one task after another
that you're like, way to take the fucking fun out of this. By the time we were talking about
what kind of font, like the numbers would be next to that. I was just like, I'm out.
Just, I don't care. You can do it. My last book for the cover, I was like, can you just find a
fucking shot that matches what we're doing? Like, do we really need to do a photo shoot for this
cover? They're like, most people get excited about this. I'm like, not me. I'm not excited
to shoot another book cover. That was the one thing that I really held firm on, though. I knew
that I wanted my buddy Danny Sangra to design the cover. He's an incredible filmmaker, but he's also
an amazing visual artist. And he is one of my dearest friends and knows me so well. I just
have to be like, Danny, can you do my cover? And he'll make it perfect. And they kept sending me
these options that were like, great, but just I was like, no. And they made me jump through so
many hoops because I now know they like to keep it internal. And I just was like, every time they
would send me an email with options, I would write back and be like, can Tani please design my cover?
And they finally said yes. But we did Popsicle. I loved doing it because I wrote one essay and
then I just got to edit a bunch of other brilliant people's work. And by edit, basically be like,
thanks so much it looks great so when we when that came out I was like okay Meg my editor
can we do another one of these and she was like well no because now you have to write your book
and I was like right but can we do another one of these and I'll do that after and she was like
no because you're contractually obligated to write this book first okay we're going to take
a couple callers and give them advice life advice Sasha okay that's what we do here at Dear Chelsea
Yeah, let's do it. Nothing better than an outside perspective, right? What do we got, Catherine?
Well, our first caller is Alex. He says, Dear Chelsea, I'm a 36-year-old gay guy and I am
chronically online. I have a good full-time job and most people that know me hold me in high
esteem, but I am absolutely obsessed with Instagram and threads mostly. I always get
into fights in the comments, especially about politics. I always think I have the best points
to make, and often maybe I do, but I know that my comments are unlikely to really result in
epiphanies where MAGA people will change their ways. I figured since I don't argue with family
or friends, what's the harm? But I comment so often that on popular pages, my friends will
see what I've written, and everyone knows how chronically online and combative I am. Help, Alex.
Hi, Alex. Hey, Chelsea.
Hi. This is our special guest, Sasha Mamet, today.
Oh, hey. Hey, hey.
Listen, as fun and as addicting as social media can be,
well, addicting it is, and as fun as it can be,
it is not good for your brain.
You are not feeding your brain when you are on social media.
So you need to start detoxing.
And by detoxing, I mean you need to like,
you can start small, you can start with an hour a day
that you turn your phone off and put it somewhere.
Just put it away somewhere.
when you get home from work or your most vulnerable time wherever you feel it the most
but you have to understand like there are so many articles if you just google what does social media
do to your brain you can read it's going to make you sick you can't spend that much time a online
looking at other people's lives is not healthy you need to fucking read a book that's what you
need to be doing and you need to you need to get into the habit of when you don't have anything to
do that you're reading about? Because you're addicted. You have an addiction and now you
have to detox from your addiction. Chelsea, that's harsh.
I know. I know, but it's true. It's like, it's not good for us. And listen,
we all are dealing with this. You're not alone. But you can take steps. Like, don't you want to be
a more well-rounded person? You don't want to just be somebody who's arguing online or trying
to make brilliant points online to what avail? What is that going to get you? What does it give
you? It gives me some satisfaction when I win. How does winning look like?
Winning to me looks like when the other person maybe ends up blocking me because in my head,
they've decided that they cannot argue my valid points anymore. One of my most passionate things
is about Chicago I live in Chicago and like people are calling it a hellhole and all this crazy stuff
and this guy was just going in on me like a lot of people because of the way I look they're like
you must live in a suburb or like on the north side or something and I don't and like this person
was going in on me and then I was like I told him where I lived and like where I have lived and the
things that are great about where I live and then he blocked me and so I was I mean it gives me a
lot of satisfaction that I won that argument. Well, you didn't win the argument. Winning the
argument would have been him going, wow, you brought up so many, you raised so many great
points about Chicago and I was misinformed. That would be a win. Changing someone's mind
would be a win. Having someone block you is not a win. Also, don't tell people online that you're
arguing with where you live. Like first rule. I was going to say that. Maybe, yeah. Sasha,
how do you handle your relationship with social media? It's very tough because I have to be on it
for work. It sadly is now like a part of the job, but I find it's so true. If I don't go on it or I
only go on it for a specific amount of time to a specific end, it makes me feel so much better.
Yeah. If I spend multiple days not because the problem is it's not real, but society and our
brains keep telling us that it is, but it's not. And it's creating these like very weird
parasocial dynamics that aren't actually based in reality. So it's like, and it is absolutely
an addiction. I mean, it's a dopamine hit 1000%. Absolutely. Absolutely. And we're all guilty of
it. So just like, you know, you're living in a world where everyone is dealing with this. So
you should get some comfort from, from that, but you should also be worried about your brain health.
You know what I mean? Cause no one's coming to save you. You have to, you have to take care of
yourself. You have to make the moves to make sure that you are having like a healthier relationship
with social media and also find some other things to do that prevent you from being online. Go
fucking play tennis, go play basketball, go do yoga, whatever is interesting to you. Commit to
these things with the intention of breaking away from social media so it is not an addiction.
Set the timer. They give you those timers. Okay, you've spent an hour on social media today. You
can choose to ignore it, but you have to be in control of yourself to exercise your willingness
to change. You know what I mean? You have to have a willingness and then you have to have a
follow through. And I think follow through is pretty much the most important thing in life
is following through. You're calling because you know you have a problem. You're not calling to
hear me tell you, oh my God, I love it. Keep doing it. Are you? No, I'm not. Right. So you know you
have a problem. You've admitted it. Great. Those are the first two major steps. Now you can take
some steps to just spend less time. You don't have to quit. Just spend less time and stop arguing
with people. Don't tell people where you live. That's all just kind of like jerking off into a
fucking wall. Do you know what I mean? It just, what is the point? You know, go read, go read
Anna Karenina. Go read a book that's going to make you think. Zosia just wrote a great book of
essays called Does This Make Me Funny? Start reading books. That is going to add to your
brain health way more than social media. And that's a fucking doctor's order. Okay?
Okay. Okay. I understand. Okay. Okay. Keep us posted. Check back in in a month and let us know
how you're doing. Even if you failed miserably, we want to know about it. Okay. Sounds good. I
think I'll start by trying to put a separation like right after work. Like unfortunately,
work requires me to use a smartphone now too. And so that'll be a good separation from work to life.
and I'll start there.
And just look at, and write it down, write it down.
Every night, look at how many hours you spent on your phone.
And, you know, I know sometimes you're on your phone for work
and not social media, but there's a differentiation there.
They show you, they break it up.
So like, look at that amount of hours
and then every day work on decreasing that amount of hours.
Yeah, and I like what you said about like putting something in its place,
like going out to doing something real, like Sasha said,
like something real that's in the real world.
You can also log that and be like, today I did an hour of,
I took a walk or I did, you know, whatever the thing is. Yeah. And maybe if I want a crusade
for the world, I should do something real and volunteer instead. Yes, exactly. That's right.
That's what Mitch Albom said. We just had Mitch Albom on, the writer. You've probably never heard
of him because you're too busy online all the time. But he's written so many beautiful books.
And he said, when he wakes up in the morning, he just starts to write immediately without looking
at the news, without looking at, he doesn't want anything in his head other than fresh
ideas.
And so if you think about all that noise that you're putting, you're allowing, and you're
welcoming into your brain, that could be re-engineered to have so much more and just have a fuller
life.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is helpful.
Okay, good.
Those are your marching orders.
Good luck.
Thanks, Alex.
Yes.
Chelsea, can I say one thing to you?
Yeah.
I've been a really big fan of you for a long time, and I just think that you're a model
someone that's shown personal growth that's obvious while preserving your authenticity.
I really appreciate it. Oh, I love that. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Okay. Bye. Bye.
I love yelling at my fans. You know what? A lot of them, that's what they're asking for.
They're like, I need Chelsea. They want me to do this. He wouldn't have come on if he
didn't want that. Right. Right. It's like a kid sort of wanting to get caught.
yeah yes well our next caller is john so john says dear chelsea your stand-up and books have
gotten me through some really rough times in my life so i thought it would be fitting for me to
reach out to you about an issue i'm having with my wedding guest list i'm a gay man and my partner
and i have been together for five years this is both of our first ever relationships which also
led us to coming out to our family members although most of my family was highly supportive
my mother was not, to put it mildly. My mother and I have never really had a healthy relationship.
She gave me up to be raised by my grandparents when I was in the fifth grade.
We remained cordial for the most part for the sake of my grandparents, but this all changed
in 2018 when a disagreement between my grandparents and my mother resulted in a
significant family rupture in which I ultimately sided with my grandparents. During my coming out
year, my grandparents encouraged me to have a conversation with my mother, which I was hesitant
about but agreed to. As predicted, the conversation went horribly. She was not accepting of, as she
put it, my life choices. Sidebar, some of my life choices include that I am the first college
graduate in my family, a licensed psychotherapist, soon-to-be psychologist, and caring partner,
so I think I turned out pretty well despite the trauma that comes along with being abandoned by
a parent. Anyway, my mother found out about the engagement and has been speaking to my grandmother
about it, who has been slightly pressuring me to invite her to the wedding. It's important for me
to be surrounded by people who have been supportive of my relationship. However, I don't
want my grandparents to be upset that my mother wasn't invited since she has a history of taking
things out on them when she's upset with me. And I don't know if I'll regret not inviting her,
which is probably influenced by my inner child still longing for his mother. My partner and I
are getting ready to send out Save the Dates next month, and I am really on the fence about whether
or not to invite her. I could really use your unfiltered and unbiased feedback. John.
Hi, John.
Hello.
Hi, this is Zosia Mamet.
She's our special guest today.
Hello, John.
Hello, hello.
Nice to meet you.
Me too.
Hi.
Well, listen, first of all,
congratulations on having your fucking shit together, okay?
You have your shit together.
And if your mother won't tell you, I will.
You are a fucking success.
And I love when a psychotherapist calls here for advice.
So, I mean, that's always very entertaining.
Have you had conversations with your mother recently
about your relationship or about, like, you know,
the seriousness of your relationship? Does she know your partner? She met him once a couple years
ago. We went to drop off Christmas presents there and he was with me, but she said hi to him and
then ignored him the rest of the time we were there. She knows we're engaged. She knows we're
getting married, but she doesn't really talk about him to me whenever we talk. She avoids that.
Okay. Do you think it would be worthwhile to have a conversation with her to see where she stands
with regard to your relationship?
If she understands that you're in love,
that you're marrying a partner,
that you guys are intending to be together
for the rest of your lives,
do you think that's a worthwhile endeavor for you?
Ideally, it would be.
I struggle with trusting what her reaction's gonna be.
And usually in conversations like those,
I walk away feeling pretty shitty.
So I don't wanna feel that way.
Yeah.
Okay, well, yes, you can control
what she's gonna say, obviously.
But if you in any way, shape or form are not feeling like you're going to have a safe experience at your wedding emotionally, then your mother isn't welcome there and you can't take care of your grandparents' feelings either.
You know what I mean?
This is about you and this is about your partnership with your husband and what you guys are building together and building it on a foundation of strength rather than negativity would be the starting point, right?
And I think you probably know well enough that if you can't rely on her to be supportive and to be there for the right reasons, then it's not just about inviting her so that your grandparents feel better.
You're saving them some trouble, too.
Like, she'll take it out on them is what I gather if she doesn't get invited, right?
She'll take it out.
Yeah, absolutely.
So it might be worthwhile just to send her an email and let her know why she's not invited, you know?
And if she really, or if you want to do it prematurely, like if you want to reach out
to her via email, because sometimes it's better to write these things instead of say them
out loud because your emotions will get the better of you, to write down and say, listen,
this is what I'm embarking on.
I'm about to spend the rest of my life with the man that I love.
And we've been, you know, you've never really exhibited any support for this relationship
or shown any interest in him.
So I'm unclear as to how to proceed about including you in the wedding.
Is this something you think that you would want to be a part of?
Do you think that you can show up for me and be 100% supportive because that's all I want
on that day?
And leave it in her court and see how she comes back to you.
And if she comes back to you in any way that makes you feel ick or weird or nervous or
you're emotionally not taken care of, then that's your answer.
And you don't have to have the conversation with her.
And you can easily explain to your grandparents that you did that.
You can CC them or not CC them.
Don't involve them when it's not necessary.
They're probably old and tired.
Zasha, what do you think?
I mean, I'm so sorry that you're in this position.
It's truly terrible.
And it's such a bummer because you're the child here and this shouldn't have to be your
responsibility.
But sadly, that's just sometimes life.
But, you know, my husband and I had some tricky family stuff when we were getting married
and some tricky friend stuff.
And we really sat down and said, this is a day to celebrate our love.
This is the day that's supposed to kick off the rest of our lives.
And we decided the only people that were allowed to be at our wedding were people who we felt like we either saw or talked to every week. They were people that made us feel happy and good and safe. And, you know, we would have these sort of like, you can get very political when you're planning a wedding, right?
You start to be like, well, if we fight this person, we have to, and you're like, you know what? This wedding is for us. This wedding is about us saying I love you in front of our, I love you forever in front of our community. And the only people that we want there are those who are going to elevate that love.
And that was our hard line. And it didn't always make the decision to maybe not invite some people easy. But I think at the end of the day, it was the right choice because it truly did feel like a joy love bubble. And I think Chelsea's right. This is your day. And everyone who's there should be in support of that union.
And it's really up to your mom whether or not she can do that. But if she can't, I don't think it's your responsibility to make her and your grandparents feel better by inviting her.
I appreciate that. Both of your advice is amazing. Sounds similar to some of the advice I would give one of my clients, but I think I need to practice what I preach here a little bit more.
Yeah, I think you have, from this call, permission to say no.
You know, sometimes it's hardest for us to give ourselves permission, and you definitely have that here.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
And just remember, you know, when you make a decision like this, either way you go, then that becomes the decision.
You know, like if you decide not to include your mom, I don't know that that's something that's necessarily going to weigh on you personally for once, you know, for the time that is remaining until the wedding.
It might be like, oh, okay, that's off my plate.
Like I've made a decision.
Or conversely, to say I'm including her, it's like, okay, I've accepted that she's going to come.
Like whatever decision you go with is fine, but I think that you can write that letter in an email and put it in writing so that she has time to read it, reflect on it.
You know, it can't be, it's not going to be argumentative.
It's going to come from a place of love and self-protection.
I will definitely do that, and I'll have to circle back and update you folks.
Yes, definitely.
Please do.
All right.
Thank you, John.
Thanks, John.
And have so much fun at your wedding.
And congratulations.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Bye.
Okay.
Well, we'll take a break and we'll be right back to wrap up with Sasha.
Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense.
Will they finally eat the veggies?
Will the pesto survive the first bite?
Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full, or come home at all?
And will you finish episode eight before you're done slicing the cucumbers?
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When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months.
I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them.
I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the Survivor Files.
I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying,
shut up, don't say anything.
Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable.
I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me.
I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed,
and I just started screaming.
They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced.
But these aren't stories about what's taken from them.
They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive.
Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality,
welcome home.
This is Prose Society,
the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters,
pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve
the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books,
the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having.
I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed.
From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments,
nothing is off the table it's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters
and that is a trojan horse whether you're looking for literary deep dives smart pop culture
conversations or a community of readers who love to think a little too much you're in the right
place listen to pro society on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your
podcasts. See you between the pages. On the new podcast Solita, we share the messy reality of
traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering
me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro and I travel by myself because
it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to
reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility.
Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like,
you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here.
It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is
and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits,
change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself.
So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip,
I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, this is Hayes Davenport.
And Sean Clements.
We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network.
Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners.
Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. the biz,
and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us.
Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist
for letting them do our show.
we've had a lot of great guests like sarah sherman not that great actually can you help me can you
help me shape this yeah how about we flip it on his head right how about we flip the script okay
what is the surprise woman who actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's
acting weird adam scott this entire time you've been expecting adam sandler to come to visit the
show i i would never let go of that i have i would never set expectations for something like that
sounds like if the universe allows for something like that to happen i'm open to it i'm always
going to accept you know danny mcbride fine yeah it's all this fragile masculinity exuding i could
smell it walking down the hallway to be honest with you i was like is that weed nope it's
It's fragile masculinity.
Ben Stiller, no.
Because a lot of times, out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is.
You know what I mean?
They're so stupid.
Everyone's so dumb except for you.
And fake.
Right, fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life.
I don't care about your life.
And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us.
Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode.
but he's just so busy.
Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Okay, and we're back with Zosia Mamet
who wrote this great little book called
Does This Make Me Funny?
It's a book of essays, her personal essays,
and it's filled with, well, it's filled with
everything you could want out of a book, quite frankly.
So thank you, Zosia, for being here today.
I wish you the best luck with this book
and I'm just so happy you're healthy
and bouncing around the world
and you're in love with your husband.
You've been married for 13 years now, right?
Something like that?
Married together, 13.
Married in October for nine.
Yeah, long time.
Wow, good for you.
And no children?
Not yet, no.
Okay, okay.
Well, maybe that's a good thing.
Okay, so have a great day.
Love you, honey.
Thanks, Sasha.
Bye.
Thank you, bye.
Bye-bye.
Bye. I just announced all my tour dates. They just went on sale this week. It's called the
High and Mighty Tour. I will be starting in February of next year. So I will be touring
from February through June. I haven't added second shows yet, but we probably will be to some of
these. So go get your tickets now. If you want good seats and you want to come see me perform,
I will be on the High and Mighty Tour. Do you want advice from Chelsea? Write
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i survived nine months in captivity and i've spent my life exploring how other people survive
what should have destroyed them.
I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are The Survivor Files.
Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable,
abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced.
These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive.
Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
If your bookshelf and your For You page
are equally important to your personality,
welcome home.
Pro Society is a weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse.
Each week, we're connecting the dots between books, the Internet and pop culture with your favorite writers, book talk creators and plenty of overthought opinions.
I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed.
Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Did you hear the new episode of the Hey Jonas podcast?
We are at D23.
So we'll see who stops by.
The cast of Frozen stopped by.
Kristen Bell, Josh Gad, and Idina Menzel.
I auditioned for Frozen.
What?
For Kristoff.
They said, okay, what are you going to be singing today?
I said, I don't know.
That must have been why you didn't get it.
Well, you probably won.
Plus, John Stamos, Hayden Christensen from Star Wars, and more.
And I guess I can share that, uh, no way.
Listen to the latest episode of Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
hey this is Hayes Davenport and Sean Clements we host the podcast Hollywood Handbook each week we
talk to someone in show business and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to
offer us everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our
show we've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman Adam Scott Danny McBride Ben Stiller and
a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us listen to Hollywood Handbook
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
On the new podcast, Solita,
we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman.
I can wait four hours for the next bus
or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle.
I chose option B.
I'm Julie Pinheiro and I travel by myself
because it's a rare space where I can say yes
without asking anyone else first.
I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita,
trading the pity for possibility.
Listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an iHeart Podcast.
Guaranteed human.
