Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Fangirling with Adam Scott

Episode Date: August 13, 2026

Adam Scott joins Chelsea to discuss his borderline-overboard fandom of Robert DeNiro, smoking in bars in the 90’s, and how to lock down your dream girl.  Then: A couple has never spent a night away from their kids. Online dating has destroyed one woman’s ability to flirt.  And a daughter wonders whether she should reconnect with her MAGA mom. * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The cast of Frozen stopped by. Kristen Bell, Josh Gad, and Idina Menzel. I auditioned for Frozen. What? For Kristoff. They said, okay, what are you going to be singing today? I said, I don't know. That must have been why you didn't get it.

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And September, I will be in Santa Barbara, San Diego, New York City, Philly, and New Haven, Connecticut. October is Atlanta, Baltimore, Saginaw, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Boise, Idaho, and Spokane. And then in November, I'll be in San Francisco. I'm coming to Salt Lake City, Austin, Houston, Dallas, babies. I'll be there. And then in December, I am closing out my tour in Denver and Vancouver. So get your tickets at ChelseaHandler.com for the High and Mighty Tour. Hi, Catherine.

Hi, Chelsea. You were just in New York City. I was. It was a whirlwind, Catherine. It was a family whirlwind. I have two nieces. New nieces, yes. I saw you with arm in arm.

They are adorable, and I met them for the first time. My brother has been married for a few years, but I never met them because they were living elsewhere. It's been sort of an immigration nightmare situation, right? Is that done? Yes, it is. that's amazing. So that's great. And they were lovely and so sweet. Yes. It's so nice to see my brother married with children. It's so sweet. He found his, he found the lid to his pot.

Isn't that sweet? I know. I remember we did a mini episode with him or we did an episode with him way back in the day. And I think he had just started dating her maybe, or it was early days. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They told me some funny stories. Um, and my sister lives right by them. so she's really helping out and that's really cute and I like um yeah it's a it's just one big happy family oh I'm glad over at the Handler household did you see speaking of New York City did you see this thing that mom Donnie did to like help people meet their love no what did he do so someone posted like you know mom Donnie's doing all this cool stuff like oh mom Donnie help with this and this and this and this guy posted like I'm supposed to be having a date with the love

of my life here at this library in Brooklyn. And so Mom Donnie not only responded to it, he like reposted it and he's like scheduling little cute events and stuff. That's really cute. He must have picked that up from my matchmaking online. I know, I know. He's copying you. Oh, he's always copying me. Mom Donnie's doing good things in New York City. I know. It's actually really exciting. Yes. I did the Pivot podcast with Kara Swisher this week that I think airs tomorrow. And she does this thing at the end called predictions and i predicted that abdul al-sayyad will win

michigan that's my prediction that's my political prediction and my also political prediction is that mitch mcconnell is dead and i like the news that we got about i don't know how this will be received but who really gives a shit that brad pitt is back on the sauce i mean i mean honestly if you quit drinking to get your family back and they don't come back then why are you quitting drink and they remove your name seven years is the period of time that we've spoken about at length that it's time to move into a new phase so and if i get one more thing on my fucking algorithm about this fucking lunar eclipse and this what the next 12 years of hell are going to be like and pisces my algorithm is like you're walking into a fire pit of hell no it's actually saying

you're walking away from it but it's just so annoying all day long i'm like i i can't hear anything more about these eclipses no no it's just too much i can't hear about bad news and bad things coming like just shifting and all these tarot card readers how did these even start coming up on my algorithm i blame you because of me it's yeah it's a witch it's and yamanika because she's all about it you know yeah are you guys also by the way if you haven't listened to what um you're the problem with yamanika that's our latest that's our latest offering here at the dear chelsea Network. We have a new podcast called You're the Problem with Yamanika. So please support her and listen and download and subscribe. And she's so funny and she's so fun. And she is. And it's such

a fun podcast. I'm actually really enjoying it, even though I have to listen to it. It's your job right now. Tengo que escucharlo. Yes. Okay. We are introducing a very special guest. You know him from Severance, Parks and Rec, Party Down and more. And his new movie is The Whisper Man, which is out on Netflix now, which is fucking awesome, and has my other boyfriend in it, Robert De Niro. Please welcome Adam Scott. Are we good to go, Brad? Because I'm ready to rumble.

And Adam's ready to rumble. I sure am. Is this a good spot for it? Is this appropriate? It's not appropriate, actually. We need you to take your hands off of that mic. Sorry. Okay, we're living during a very sensitive,

we're actually living in a very desensitized time. We went from very sensitive to desensitized. Right, right. It sure is. It sure is. Your hair, as usual, looks magnificent. Are you happy with it? I'm fine with it. As long as you're fine with it. I just had the pleasure of watching him get his hair quaffed in my kitchen. So I liked that. Dry bar situation.

It's just impressive to see a head of hair like this. I know you talk about your hair a lot. People ask you about your hair a lot. People ask me about my hair. Do you get self-conscious about it? You know, I'm just grateful at this age that I have hair. So I'm fine with it. Because if I'm talking about my hair, I don't have to talk about something else. Like the fact that you look so much like Tom Cruise?

That's right. How does that make you feel? That I look like Tom Cruise? First of all, do you think? Do you think? Do you think? Do you think? Do you?

I'm sorry. I started the sentence first. I think I started this interview. I look like Tom Cruise. Yes. You do? Yes. Interesting.

And do you? I mean, it's a huge compliment, first of all. I understand why people have said it, but people used to say it all the time, like a long time ago, and then it sort of stopped. So I wonder if there's an era of Tom Cruise where we kind of like matched up for a couple of years. I don't know.

I don't know culturally why it happened at a particular time, but I would take it as a huge compliment. Yeah. Do you think that you and Tom Cruise have similar running styles? Well, I would hope so because he's like the best cinematic runner of all time.

Yeah. Is that what he's known for his run? He's known for his stunts, right? Which include running. Yes, but he's also known for, like if you've seen Born on the 4th of July, remember that movie? Like he's known for his performances as well.

Well, right, right, right. Of course. He's known for his acting. He's a good actor. He's known for a plethora of things. The thing about his running is that I don't think I've ever dedicated as much of myself to anything as he does to running. Like his running is like top notch. Really?

Like no one's ever, don't you think if you, his running in Mission Impossible movies, he is putting absolutely everything he has into those runs. Well, he must, he probably, do you run on the side in real life? No. You only run in severance. That's right. Because that's pretty much the only time I've seen you run. Oh, in your new movie, The Whisper Man, you run also. Yes, I do.

But that's different because in severance, it's really like, it's very, it's always in the same space. You're always in a hallway running. And it's a lot of it. Like we, it's, you know, we spend a lot of time shooting those sequences. So it's, and I don't like train for it or whatever, which I probably should. Yeah. And I feel like Tom Cruise is training. Oh, 100%.

He's probably got a running coach and a running style coach to run so he doesn't look like an asshole. And you don't look like an asshole when you run either. It sounds like you were kind of saying I look like an asshole. I thought it was going to sound like that as well, which is why I followed it up with you saying that you're not bad at running. Didn't look like an asshole. Well, I think that like his running, if he did the running that I do, he could do it and then work a full day after, no problem. Whereas I'm like depleted and need like bananas and Gatorade after I do it. Right, right.

Well, first of all, I want to congratulate you on your body of work, Adam. Thanks. You have a huge, it's a really impressive body of work. And you have a new movie, The Whisperer Man, which is, has also, I want to talk about all the people that you've been working with lately. Yeah. Because it's a pretty impressive roster. Thanks. On Severance, you get to work with Turturro. And these are people who I'm talking about only the people that have been legends for a long time. Never mind all of the other people we get to see you interact with. John Turturro, Christopher Walken's in there, Patricia Arquette, all legendary people. And in this movie, you get to work with De Niro.

And I know you've been around the block and you've worked with lots of cool people. What is it like on being on a regular set and that is, you know, where you're the main character of a show and these people are supporting that, you know? It's not something I get used to. And I think that, I think it's different. Like my kids have grown up now in Los Angeles and grown up around show business. So to them, I don't know what, how big of a deal something like that is kind of growing up adjacent to and all their friends, some of their friends' parents are in show business and stuff. for me i grew up in northern california in a in a in a small town where i mean it may as well have been in milwaukee or something like there's so so disconnected from show business that like i kept my ambition to be an actor a secret till i was like 17 years old because it was so embarrassing that i wanted to you know like it sounds it sounded ridiculous but it's all i thought about, all I cared about were like movies and movie stars and television and stuff. So someone like Robert De Niro and getting to be in this movie with him was so crazy because he's so

fundamental to the reasons that I wanted to do this in the first place. So I guess the incredibly long answer to your simple question is it's still kind of blowing my mind. And Turturro and Patricia and Christopher Walken, it's still wild to me. And I'm not, I don't think I'll ever get used to it. But don't you think at this point in your career, you're more prepared for it than ever? Like if it had happened earlier in your career, do you think, first of all,

I don't want you to get pigeonholed because you're playing a widow. In Severance, you're a widow. And in The Whisperer Man, you're a widow. So we have to make sure that this doesn't become a recurring thing. It stops here. It stops here.

It stops now. It stops here at Dear Chelsea. That's right. So you play a widow in both of these movies. In this movie with De Niro, it's a fucking awesome thriller. You move back to the town where your wife is from. And De Niro is playing your father. Yeah.

And there are a lot, I think there's a lot of, for me as a viewer, there are a lot of similarities in your ability. I guess it's your emotional availability that I'm impressed by as in watching you. because you are really like i know the opening scene which is very hard to get out of your mind from severance you know when you're sitting in that car and you're hysterically crying and then you walk in and you see something shift and that is also like you know i was just telling him how you feel when you watch it like as soon as you go up in that elevator there's something that shifts from the viewer so what you're doing is super compelling to even have that impact and and

obviously the direction and everything involved in that really like lends itself to transporting you to a different place and i was telling you it took me a while to get into severance because it is such a different frequency that you're in when you watch that show yeah so i i'm very curious to see like to hear about how you handle that like emotional kind of changing your presence in the scene because of what you're playing the character you're playing like how does one tap into that like how do you do that like going from one to the other yes like there's a different look in your eye and there's a different way that you're walking yeah slightly is that all intentional yeah i mean it was it was it took a lot of kind of trial and error because you know when we were

starting the scripts were great and it was this whole different world and everything but then you're there and we're kind of starting from scratch and ben was really kind of guiding us to find this world and find the particular tone of this world and it was a lot of like experimenting and trying different stuff to see what would work and when it came to my character when we were kind of zeroing in on it was important because it's not like two characters it sort of is but it is the same person it's just two different sections of the same person so it had to feel like the same guy but just like different versions so for me the biggest difference ended up being just like life experience and so you go down in the elevator

and it was almost like just scooping out life experience because one of them is 40 some odd years old and the other one's like for all intents and purposes like two and a half years old um you have a certain your your your you know the severance procedure leaves you with certain abilities and awareness about certain things but understand that you're thirsty or that you have to go get a drink yeah you know how to like yeah get yourself food or satiate or whatever but they've never experienced sleep they've never experienced you know the sky or whatever so there's a bunch of and your life experience is scooped out so it's kind of like a a math problem and going from one to the other in the elevator ended up being like you said like

there's something just behind the eyes that shifts because it's just a completely different life experience a completely different kind of realm of awareness and i sort of just to try always trying to kind of you know you try and make something personal and so kind of a starting point for me was when we were starting out i was just like okay maybe my the any is everything i like about myself like sometimes i can be charming or personable or optimistic like if if i'm in the right situation and i and i kind of can reflect back on how i behaved i can sometimes feel that way. And then the outie could be everything I have disdain for about myself, bad posture, kind of a pessimist, antisocial, you know, all those things that you are constantly pushing up

against. And that character, that side of the character has sort of indulged himself in all of the things that have kind of kept him from moving on from this horrible period. Anyway. I heard you on Amy Poehler's podcast, Good Hang, where you were talking about the beginning state, like just all of the different things that you've worked on, all the big hits you've had. And you were talking about losing out that role to Michael C. Hall in Six Feet Under. It was between him and Michael C. Hall, which I thought was a fascinating story. Great tidbit. And then watching Michael C. Hall have all that success with Six Feet Under. And you guys were talking about one of the times you got really close to something big and that you didn't make that and that you couldn't imagine ever being in that after seeing Michael C. Hall in it. And I would say the same thing to you about Severance. Like no one could play that role but you. And what you're saying about this lends itself to supporting all of that. Because this is, it's like, I wouldn't even imagine reading that script and understanding

what was happening. Yeah, yeah. Didn't you have to have a lot of conversations about it or did you not? Well, when I first heard the idea, it was way before there was even a script around. Ben just kind of told me the idea about like, you go to work and you don't know who you are in the outside world. You only know what's there, and then when you leave work, you have no idea what you did at work, and I just thought that was such a cool idea, so I couldn't get that. It sounded like a really good Twilight Zone episode or something, but yes, as we dove in and got more and more detail about not only the circumstances of the procedure, but the company and the lore and all of that stuff, yes, it was constant questions.

And Dan Erickson, who created the show, was around, and he could sort of explain things, and he has an answer for everything and has kind of thought everything through. So, yeah, it was a lot of – it's dense. It's a lot of information, and everything that you see and hear on that show is there for a reason and has a story behind it. Yeah. So – Yeah. I mean, it's pretty fascinating. It really makes you think.

Good. It really makes you focus, and it really makes you think. We were saying that this is one of the shows where you have to watch, and your phone really has to be away. You can't be diddling. You can't be diddling yourself, and you can't be diddling your phone. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches,

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us.

Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman. Not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on its head? How about we flip the script? What if the surprise woman, who actually you think is the straight man, is actually the one who's acting weird? Adam Scott.

This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never expect. Let go of that. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. if the universe allows for something like that to happen i'm open to it i'm always going to accept you know danny mcbride fine yeah it's all this fragile masculinity exuding i could smell it walking down the hallway to be honest with you i was like is that weed nope it's fragile masculinity ben stiller no because a lot of times in out of context people don't get it or even know what a

circle is you know what i mean like you're like oh what's this david everyone's so dumb and fake right fake and and also not interested or just like oh i've got my life i don't care about your life and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us oh and by the way will ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode but he's just so busy listen to hollywood handbook on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts okay so now let's shift to the whisper man so this is a great story and and like i i love the idea of being a single dad not because your wife died but i love the i just like watching male characters i think it's really nice to see a single father yeah you know someone who's

like it's their entire onus is to provide for this kid and take care of them emotionally which your character really does, which I imagine you're a lot like in real life. I mean, everyone has always amazing things to say about you. I know you a little bit and you are definitely one of the good guys. That's the reputation you have. That's very, very nice of you to say. So you and your family should be proud of yourself. Thank you. But when you're dealing with that kind of level of emotion, which you do in Severance as well, but especially in The Whisper Man and you're dealing with that, what are you tapping into? I mean, the thing I thought was interesting about the script and kind of James Ashcroft, who directed it, something he was really interested in, too, is that this is a single dad who's kind of struggling.

He wasn't the one – his wife was really the one who did the lion's share of parenting, and now here he is, and he's trying his best to connect with his son and provide for his son, and he is – he's having a hard time. I mean, he's doing it, but it is a struggle. And in the midst of trying to do this right and figure out how to do this, his son disappears. So I thought that was interesting, that it wasn't like some idyllic version of single parenthood that I've seen a lot in movies where everything's great and perfect, things couldn't be going better, and then this tragedy strikes. Things are a bit of a struggle out of the gate, and so this horrible thing that happens couldn't have come at a worse time. You know, working with MJ, with this kid, this wonderful actor who played my son, was really wonderful, and he was so available. And being a parent, you know, especially working with someone who's 10 years old, I believe he was 10 years old when we made the movie, I miss that age so much with my kids. They're 19 and 17 now, so they're essentially adults. So working with him and remembering what it was like to have a 10-year-old and an 8-year-old or whatever was really, really – it was easy to kind of tap into that and feel those kind of feelings and that anxiety and the constant worry you have for this kid.

I mean that never goes away, but at that age, it's a particularly tender time. It doesn't go away? no you're always worried for your oh my god every time my kids leave the house it's like oh my god it's embarrassing this is like be careful fucking driving like jesus christ don't like be late don't fucking drive 60 miles an hour down a neighbor like don't just slow down and be careful don't look at your phone you know all that stuff do your kids respect you oh my god no that would be the worst thing to have kids that don't respect you at all like i did not respect my parents at all as soon as i met them i'm like uh-uh yeah no thanks and the

teenage years like i mean i don't want i would never want to put i wouldn't the karma that i'm do for the way I treated my parents we come full circle that I was like there's no way I can have children because it will just be hell oh my god I was such an asshole I remember my mom would if I had like dirty dishes in the sink she would ask me over

and over again do your dish and I would just ignore it she would bring the dishes into my room and put them on my bed and I would just take them put them on the floor and I wouldn't do it like what an asshole yeah that is an asshole what a shit brothers and sisters

I had an older brother and sister, yeah, or I do. So you were the youngest. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're the worst ones. I'm the youngest of my family as well, yeah. How many brothers and sisters?

Five, there's six of us all together. So I was number six. So nobody was even trying to get me to do dishes. They were just like, just shut the fuck up for two seconds, please. You have like a free pass. They were like, if you could just go in your room and be quiet for an hour, we're fine. We'll do your dishes for you. All right, whatever, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, so how does your, tell me about parenting. I want to know, like, what has surprised you? What has surprised you about your wife becoming a mother? I know it's been a long time. Or maybe what surprises you about your wife being a mother that you didn't know about her before you had children? Anything? I think that she's incredible. And I don't think it's a surprise necessarily that she was or is.

So I'm thinking about the kids being really little right now, how adept she was right out of the gate for being a parent and was really the person I followed. I really kind of looked to her to figure out how to do this. It's really hard. It's a lot of really, it's really complicated and hard, particularly as they get older. But I always had her as a role model for parenting, truly. She took the lead in the beginning. Yeah. I mean, I guess it depends on what kind of aspect of it you're talking about.

But yeah, I would always follow Naomi's lead. I think she is an incredible parent and our kids are incredible people. And like I said, they're like grownups now. It's so crazy. And they are incredible people. And I entirely credit her with that. I'm lucky that I grew up with great parents as well, but I'm consistently still just blown away by what an incredible mother she has been and still is. Do you think that's just being a female instinctually, like having a maternal instinct? I think that's part of it, but I think she has a real emotional availability, really, really perceptive. And intellectually, she's brilliant. And I think that really comes in handy too. Like she's always five steps ahead of all three of us. So I guess the next question is, does she respect you?

That's a great question. Which we're going to need to ask her. You got to get her in here to find out. How did you two meet? We met at Cat and the Fiddle. Do you remember that bar? Oh, yes, yes. On Sunset?

Yeah, of course. Where you could smoke outside. Yes, yeah. I used to go there with all the comedians. Cat and the Fiddle, yeah. Totally. After what club were... Well, there were all these little clubs

that weren't the main clubs, like Comedy Store and Improv, that were over on the outside of town. Those were way over there, yeah. There was Mixed Nuts, which was on Pico and La Brea, but there was clubs over there. I forget some of the names of them,

but there was always these small little rooms where you could go up. Yes, that's right. Like more east. Yeah, east into like, yeah. Yeah, we met there because everyone smoked back then, and that was the best bar. You could go in and play darts, but you could go outside and smoke.

People are smoking us back, by the way. I know. People are smoking. I can't believe it. Dude, it's everywhere. I just don't understand. It's like we've lost all information. Because the kids love the 90s.

I know. Is that what it is? Well, here's the thing, is that vaping obviously took hold for a while, But then everyone came down so hard on vaping that all these kids were addicted to nicotine. They're like, okay, I guess we can't vape anymore. May as well just go to the source. Right. And it looks cooler.

So let's just start smoking. It's crazy. You're right. It's everywhere. Were you ever a smoker? Yeah, of course. Of course. I've done everything.

Oh my God. It was the best, wasn't it? But yeah, I don't smoke anymore because I'm too old to smoke. Like it's cool. You know, in Europe once in a while I'll have a cigarette because I don't believe you can get cancer there. And if I'm on vacation and other people are smoking, I figure, you know, okay. But I never go, I don't smoke here.

I would just, I just find cigarettes to be gross in the way that you should have. I think probably we're similar ages. Okay. So back to how you met your wife. Did you just throw in a piece of nicotine gum while we're talking about nicotine, by the way? Okay. Yeah. Just wanted to clock that.

I haven't smoked a cigarette probably in 12 years or something. Okay. So you were a smoker too. I sure was. I loved it. Of course, you're an actor. Yeah. Oh, my God.

An actor in the 90s in Los Angeles? Yes, I can see it. I mean, Jesus. Yes. What else would you do? You run your fingers through your hair and smoke a cigarette and deliberate over how you're going to deliver a scene. You should see my headshots from like 1995.

Oh, I can only imagine. I mean, I auditioned for all the Scream movies and I know what you did. All that stuff. I was here trying to, you know, get something. Yeah. And so it was that whole skeet or rich and that whole era of like actors. Yeah, we had Dave Franco on recently

who was telling us that you were together when you guys met the Pope. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, it's crazy. Did you go on one of those Pope trips? No, he hasn't requested me yet.

You should meet the Pope. Did you get requested? I mean, I got invited. I thought it was fake. That's a request. I guess. That's what Dave said too. He was like, I couldn't believe,

we couldn't believe we were going to meet him. It was strange, but, you know, whatever. Okay. Interesting. I'm more interested, though, in your wife and the cat and the fiddle. Cat and the fiddle. Okay, so we met at the cat and the fiddle. I saw her from across the bar, that outside area.

Remember that big fountain? Yeah, of course. Yes. And I was like, I want to meet her. And my friend, I was doing a play, in the midst of doing a play, and the friend I was with in the play, he was like, I know her friend. and he was a Brit and he walks over to his friend that they knew each other from the UK and she introduces me to Naomi

and Naomi said, is like, nice to meet you. And then she's like, I have to go. And she just left because she did not, she heard I was an actor and immediately was like, no way and just left. Smart. Smart. But then I got my friend to talk to his friend

and get them to come to the play we were in. It was down at the Taper downtown, the Mark Taper Forum. And they came to that play and it was on closing night. And afterwards there was like a closing night party and that's where we started chatting. And we went to an after party at Amanda Donahoe's house. Do you remember that actor, Amanda Donahoe? It sounds familiar.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You would recognize her. And I don't know how it ended up at her house because she was not in the play, but we were in the backyard and there was a golden retriever and just the three of us sat there for like three hours just talking.

The dog did not talk, but Naomi and I did. Thank you for that clarification. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And thank you to the listeners and thanking you on their behalf for that clarification. No talking dogs. The viewers and the listeners. This is also on Netflix, so people can watch you.

you and see your hair believe me if the dog talked that would have been the headline yeah yeah exactly yeah of course i met my wife and now you guys run a production company together you have a production company you work together how long have you guys been working together we've been working together since like 2012 about wow yeah it's been a while that's nice yeah right Yeah, it's great. I mean, we did it sort of out of necessity. We made this series of specials for Adult Swim where we recreated opening credit sequences for 80s television shows, shot for shot. we made these opening credit sequences so um and i was directing them she was producing them and and we created it together so we needed to come up with a company and we came up with a name and did every and then it went really well working together because you never know how that's gonna

it could be dicey yeah but it ended up being great and so we just kept going and kept doing it and and uh and we're now going on like over 10 years it's wild behind every night spent making the kids lunches there's a lot of suspense will they finally eat the veggies will the pesto survive the first bite will the lunchbox come home empty half full or come home at all and will you finish episode 8 before you're done slicing the cucumbers get bell pure fiber internet with crave netflix and disney plus from 94 a month price guaranteed for two years on internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit visit bell.ca for details and to check availability.

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This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From best-selling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse.

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Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind or wake up to a new version of yourself so whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip i hope you listen to solita on the iheart radio app

apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts so let me turn that question about parenting back to you yeah has there what was the most surprising thing that you found out about yourself as a parent? You know, what's interesting is that when you, there's a weird, um, and it's all cliched. Everything that I'm going to say is a cliche because everything that I know it always sounds cliche when people talk about parenting, but when you're raising kids, whatever age the kid is at, you are immediately start flashing back to memories when you were at that age and you start remembering things. And maybe it's part of a process of just trying to empathize with the kids and trying to see the world through their

eyes. But for whatever reason, I was kind of flashing back to everything in my life growing up as a kid. And I'm glad that happened because it's good to be able to kind of see yourself through the and and and and and you really kind of start to see whatever patterns you may not want to repeat with your kids in a parenting sense or like yeah and i guess the thing if i'm thinking about what what would surprise me i guess i mean there's the cliched thing of you never knew you could love something so much which is totally true i think that i i've just been consistently surprised and sort of amazed at them and the people that they've become and the young woman and young man that that they are now because you don't have much perspective on it until you really

you really have to step back because you know you're in the midst of it and so you don't see them growing. It's just happening. And it's not until you look at a photo or whatever and really step back. And then to really step back and kind of see them as formed people now is something that never stops kind of amazing me. And if I take pride in anything, it's that, it's that they've turned out all right and turned out to be terrific people. Are they in the business? My daughter is an incredible actor in theater at school, and my son has no interest whatsoever. Yeah.

I had a boyfriend who once described it as wondrous. He said the word wondrous, and I had never heard anyone use that word before in a sentence. With kids growing up and stuff, yeah. With regard to just having children and seeing these little versions of yourself. Yeah. And then seeing them kind of just gather all of the information and tools that life has to offer, some of which you provide and some that they get on their own independent of you and that they come together and they form their own opinions and then they become these little people

with their own opinions and sometimes those opinions are different than yours and you're like hey wait whoa whoa whoa what's going on here yeah so and especially in a town like this because raising kids in LA cannot be easy no I mean I'm I don't yeah that's just seems like why do you say that just seems like it's too much industry too much yeah you know i feel that way as an adult when i spend too much time in la so i can only imagine as a parent how it must feel to have so much exposure i mean it's it's good to have the exposure because it kind of lessens your or mitigates your la la la about it your attitude but also at the same time it's it's very rarefied yes it's not really representative of the real world that's right that's right i wish i mean

if you want to be have a career in show business i think it's it's beneficial to grow up in show business because then it's completely demystified yeah and because i'm still nervous around robert de niro whoever but if you grow up in it like i would imagine if my daughter ends up wanting to pursue a career in show business she's going to have a leg up not because of being you know a nepo baby or whatever. I think all of that is, can only take you so far. If you're really, if you really want something that's going to last, you have to have the goods and the chops or whatever. And in many cases you have to work even harder to prove yourself. Yeah, that's true. Right. I mean, I know plenty of people that have had that. It's like, oh, they rejected because,

oh, that's so-and-so's daughter. We can't hire that person. You know, it's like, there's, it's not like it's all sunshine and roses over in that department. totally but you at least are once you're kind of there doing something you're not going to be completely freaked out by everything by the way did you just hear my dog talk my dog just what did he say he just it was a loud snore but he i think there was a syllable in there i believe i think he said i can't he can't with me he's like i can't i think i think so enough from this guy that's what he said i got that vibe when i came in earlier yeah yeah were you nervous when you did your scene with de niro or had you had done anything with him prior to the whisper man

no i i was nervous the whole time i did not get used to being around him at all do you know him i don't i mean i've no i don't know him have you met him i fucking love him yeah i mean i it's the best who doesn't love robert de niro i know first of all he's like 80 years old and he's got his shit together like he's fucking chugging along in that movie yeah yeah he shows some like physical I was like, oh, look at him. I know, man. Pretty spry, like a spring chicken. Yeah.

I just like his attitude. I like that he calls out bullshit all the time. I like that he calls out Trump, too. Yeah, I love that. Who doesn't love that? I mean, and it goes off, you know? We need more people doing that in his position. But, yeah, I'm obsessed with Robert De Niro.

I've found him. I've seen every single movie he's ever been in. And it's nice. I feel like we're in living during a time where he's more accessible than he was, like, in the 70s and 80s before, you know, because it was like, you know, actors like that were harder to see. Yeah. And now they're more pervasive. Like they take on more jobs.

The movies are TV. TV is the movies, that kind of thing. Yeah. So how did you handle your nerves with him? Well, just for some background, I would cut pictures of Robert De Niro out of like Premiere magazine and put them in my locker. I had them on my wall in my bedroom. Tricky.

Tricky is right. I even took a picture of him. Remember the tattoos in Cape Fear? I had a picture of him on the CD tray that came out of my CD player. So him from Cape Fear would come out at you when the tray opened. I was like, people would be like, what are you doing? Like, you need to calm down about Robert De Niro. So I, you know, when you're there with the person and they're talking to you and everything they're doing is so fundamental, like, you know, like you said, you've seen everything that he's done.

So it's so strange to actually be there and then have to work and not make a fool of yourself. Like, are you the type of person that wants him to respect you? Or are you trying to get him to like you? Or are you the type of person that, like, wants to make him laugh? I just want to make sure the scenes are working and I'm doing my part there. That's it. That's it. Because everything else, it's Robert De Niro.

He's one of the great actors that we've ever had, one of the greatest actors we've ever, ever had. so i'm not gonna dance around and try try and get him to like me it's way too intimidating to do in fact there was one time when i was talking to naomi on the phone and i i was like hey so i was thinking there's this i have this question about the irishman and um i wanted to ask bob about it uh and i think tomorrow we're working together i think i might find a chance to to to to approach him and uh and there's this thing i've been wondering about and she's like adam you are starring in a movie with him you're not like getting an extra or you have one scene you can ask him about the irishman what are you doing i'm like yeah you're you're right i'm in

the thing with him and so i i did i asked him about the irishman and he was like yeah great and he's just he's the actually such a sweet accessible person uh is what you come to find out so uh it was it was lovely but i never ever got used to it well you know i know you did like podcasts on you two like some other bands right springsteen did you do we did that we did you two rem talking heads and springsteen so four of those yeah because that would robert janeiro would be a good subject matter for a podcast also oh yeah you're right really 100 i mean for film buffs that people would love that so okay out of those four bands who was your i just gave you your next podcast idea you're welcome thank you so you out of those four bands do you have a favorite out of

rem really yeah they're my favorite out of all of them oh yeah okay yeah yeah yeah were you in a video with rem i yeah i was a extra in a video of theirs oh really we like one tick like the chance to go be in the video on the radio me and my friends and drove down here and and did that like 1992 i believe is how many rem concerts have you been to man a lot i've saw them so many times i think they're the best american band wow that's quite an endorsement i know good right are you not a fan you seem surprised no i'm not not not a fan i just they're not my i love springsteen i I love you too. I like R.E.M.

I've just never been like an uber fan of R.E.M. But was the podcast- I mean, we're the generation that grew up with all those bands, right? Well, yeah. Springsteen I came into later in life because somebody took me to a Springsteen concert in Oslo, Norway.

And I was like, what the fuck? Holy shit. It's incredible. I cannot believe this man. I know, man. He is the coolest of all time. He's another one, you know, who speaks up. And I love that.

It's like all these old guys. The fact that his tour right now, he's going around and he's talking about- Have you seen him recently perform? I saw him like three years ago. It was amazing. Yeah, he's like, he's 75, I think now. Yeah. 75, yeah, 75.

And he performs for three hours. Yeah. And you two, you've seen a bunch, right? It's nice to see all these kind of old guys up there fucking rocking it out and like showing people how it's done. Yeah. And also emblematic of the fact that we obviously have access to medicines and treatments that we didn't many, many years ago. That these guys are out there blowing it up and dancing. It's pretty

cool. But when I remember seeing Bruce Springsteen for the first time, I've seen you two a bunch of times. And Talking Heads, I love the Talking Heads. Yeah. I don't think I ever saw them in concert though. I didn't either. Oh, you didn't? Well, they broke up in 1989 or something like that so it was no I never did unfortunately I've seen David Byrne though he's incredible yeah he's still kicking it he's kicking it around and he's having a resurgence it's amazing it's a great show to see him see him perform yeah yeah yeah that music is so evocative like Talking Heads specifically takes you to a time totally Bruce Springsteen is like you know his library is so long yeah and so is U2's that there's songs that hit you for certain times but Talking Heads like takes you

to the moment wherever you were when you heard that like mid 80s and R.E.M. too R.E.M. for sure I remember all of that behind every night

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book club part group chat for thought daughters pop culture obsessives and anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse i'm eli rallo and every week we're connecting the dots between books the internet and the conversations everyone can't stop having i'm gonna have to look up this story i'm obsessed i'm obsessed from best-selling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments nothing is off the table it's Like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse. Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

See you between the pages. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show.

We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman. Not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on its head? How about we flip this around? okay what is the surprise woman who actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird adam scott this entire time you've been expecting adam sandler to come to visit the show i i would never let go of that i have i would never set expectations for something

like that seems like if the universe allows for something like that to happen i'm open to it i'm always going to accept you know danny mcbride fine yeah it's all this fragile masculinity exuding i could smell it walking down the hallway to be honest with you i was like is that weed nope it's fragile masculinity ben stiller no because a lot of times in out of context people don't get it or even know what a circle is you know what i mean like you're like oh what's this state everyone's so dumb except for you fake right fake and and also not interested or just like oh i've got my life i don't care about your life and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us oh and by the way will ferrell told

us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode but he's just so busy listen to hollywood handbook on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts are we ready for some callers we're so ready okay great we're so ready Have you been to therapy, Adam? You can wait on those because we'll have one that's just an email. Oh, okay. We'll save your hair a couple more minutes. You could also put them on like this, Adam, if you don't want to ruin your cough.

Don't think I hadn't already thought about it. Do a Mariah Carey one ear. Well, this is just a quickie. This is our one drink question. B says, I'm trying to convince my best friends, a couple, to go on vacation to Mexico with us this summer. The problem is they have not spent one night with both of them away from their kids. Their kids are seven and eight. They can't afford a sitter.

How do we convince them to take some time away being adults? B. They're seven and eight? Seven and eight. And they've never been away from their kids? Oh, my God. They have to do that. They have to.

Yeah. They have to. I think, you know, what might help is if they find an example of someone that does that often. Like, once a month, they take a couple days away from their kids or every few months or whatever it is and present it to them as, doesn't this look fun? Also, there's so much, like, information available to support the idea of taking breaks from your children makes you a better parent. I also think the kids want a break from their parents. Like, they love going and having a Sittercom or Grandma and Grandpa or whoever it is. It's fun and different.

It's also just, it's just a good system and healthy, like boundary to get into so that you're not seven or eight years old. Like you're going into like super, obviously the family is a codependent family. Like that you can't avoid being codependent with your family. That's just the way it works. But you want to teach these kids, you know, like some sort of independence and not have it go on to where they're 14 or 15 and they've never had a sleepover. I had a friend who had a 15 year old who had never slept over somebody else's house. Apparently, like, sleepovers have kind of gone away, which makes me so sorry about their kids, you know, getting molested, which is reasonable. But hopefully you can, I mean, that is a reasonable fear, but it's not, like, it shouldn't be your only thing, you know, you're driving for. I mean, you can make, have people that are going to be with your kids that you know and trust. Right. So it doesn't have to be. You still live a little. Get molested.

Get out there. Get out there. You got to get out there at some point. No, our kids did sleepovers all the time. And at some point, those kids are going to go to camp or whatever. Like, they have to get away from their parents. Doesn't sound like they're going to go to camp. Yeah, it doesn't sound like it.

But this is a good first step. I mean, yeah, just tell them it's a fully endorsed plan by all parties you spoke to. Yes, yes. Leave your kids for a week or whatever, a few days. That's right. Well, Perry says, online dating broke me. Dear Chelsea, big fan of the show, even bigger fan of Doug. I need some advice on how to push myself out of the habits I've developed from online dating.

I'm 28, and I've been living in Montreal for 10 years. I've been technically single for about four and a half years, overcompensating for several years of serial monogamy. I love my life, and I'm very fulfilled with my friendships and career. So after a long hiatus of single-girl-style dating, a long-term situationship, and admittedly, a fear of commitment, I've decided I'm officially ready to start looking for something serious. Here's the issue. I've been online dating since I was 16. Sorry, Mom and Dad. Oh, there's a whole generation of people just like you.

And it seriously impacted my ability to initiate interactions with people who interest me in person. I'm quite extroverted, and I'm generally pretty good at going after what I want. This definitely comes through when I'm swiping, and I never hesitate to ask someone to meet for drinks when a bit of interest has sparked. But if I meet someone out in the world, even if we're flirting, I have completely lost my nerve to take the next step of asking them for their number or to go on a date. I know this likely stems from a fear of rejection, which is a much bigger blow face-to-face than it is over the apps. Not to mention that everyone I talk to on the apps

has already shown interest before we start talking. But I want to open this door for myself as natural chemistry is everything. I'd love to be able to confidently ask people out when I meet them face-to-face. I'd love any advice you can give me. I've had a crush on a guy at my gym for months and even though we're already chatting,

I always get tongue-tied before I can take the next step. Perry. Oh, this is so fun. This is so fun. There's nothing like creating a new habit, first of all. Hi, how are you? Hi.

Nice to see you. I'm stunned to be here. Oh, well, we're happy you're here. This is our special guest. Adam Scott's here today. Hi. Hi. Nice to meet you.

How's it going? Bet you didn't expect that. Yeah. Okay. First of all, this is the perfect way to start is to go up to this guy in the gym and say exactly what you said to us in a shorter way. just to say, listen, I am trying to break my habit of only online dating and actually working on my skillset about initiating. And so you can say yes, or you can say no, but I am just

practicing right now. I've been noticing you for the last few months, whatever, however you want to phrase it, but use that guy as your first step in and use that storyline as your intro or entree or entry I'm not sure which word I'm thinking of right now but to get into this situation because you can form a new habit into like you know I people say 28 days I think it's like fewer than that I think you can really form new habits in six or seven times like I think if you really do something and you make yourself do it it's it's not that hard you're just you've just been trained online like you just kind of have to unlearn that behavior but it's really also empowering regardless of what the response is to go up to someone and say something like that

and it's going to become its own kind of intoxicating thing for you to do don't you think adam i mean you probably haven't experienced online dating ever because you've been with your wife isn't that crazy but that's consider yourself lucky well most people most marriages these days are it's people who met online yeah and apps and stuff i mean i think if you went up to him and said what chelsea just said he would be so psyched i mean first of all it would be so flattering but secondly it's so refreshing that someone would uh would say something that just be up front like that because yeah everyone's hiding behind the apps yes and and keep that in mind like you're not the only person that's experiencing exactly these like this app like dating lifestyle everyone

in your age and younger and older is also dealing with the same thing. So it's going to be refreshing for him too. And it really doesn't matter what anybody says. This is an exercise for you. So even if he says no, I doubt he will, honestly, unless he's got a girlfriend or a wife or something, which, you know, then fine. But even if he does say no, who gives a shit? There's a, you know what I mean? Like you're going to get used to the idea of like, it's more about you empowering yourself and like making that move than about what is like the end game and the response that you get. Yeah, that's all very good advice. I think I've just gotten into the habit of if I do take interest in someone in person, kind of, you know, laying the groundwork, but waiting

for them to make that final move. That's lame. Cause I used to be like that too, but that's like who, we don't have time for that. We're only here for a short period of time. Like you got to go after what you want and here's something that I always do that might help you I always just think on behalf of all women when I'm doing something like that when I'm being like you know like doing something that kind of scares me I'm like I want all women to feel this way I want to empower all women with the move that I'm making so like think of all women when you do this like you're not just helping yourself you're kind of setting an example for anyone who might see you do it even though I'm sure you don't want an audience you know like just kind of think about it as like an energetic

vibe that you're setting the tone for and that you're kind of helping other people like level up to the moment too. And, you know, think about like going up to people that that's just a stronger move anyway than hiding behind a screen. I think that's such great advice and going into it thinking if he says no or who gives a shit, that's not the point of it. The point of it is to just inject yourself into the world a little more and whether this particular person has the reaction you want or not it it's not about that it's about you know the next one will you know it's about getting yourself out there and like Chelsea said kind of shifting your habits a little bit yeah yeah I think once you know I if if I get to the point where I reach two or three rejections

and realize it's like really not as terrifying or as devastating as it sounds like it will be, I'll probably really settle into my comfort zone with it. But I think using that approach in general and just kind of being really upfront about wanting to get outside of the online dating space is a really good approach because I'm sure I'm not the only one feeling this way. No, you're definitely not. And also I wanted to just tell you a quick story. I had this, what you're talking about like me i was shy which is i'm sure hard for many people to believe but i was at i was in whistler this was many years ago and there was a group of guys sitting at a table and i was with my friend's daughter she was like 16 years old at the time and it was

just me and her and there's a group of guys and there's one guy that i was like oh this guy's cute and then we got up from the table and we're leaving the restaurant and i said to the 16 year old girl i'm like that guy was cute and she goes let's go back and i'm like no i'm not doing that I'm like, they know who I am. I'm not going back to a group of men and saying you. And she goes, I'll do it. And so she went back and she's like, oh, he's married. And I was like, I can't believe a 16 year old

just did something that I should have been doing. I was 40 something at the time. And I was like, I just remembered in that moment, I was like, no, next time I'm saying something. That's great. And remember like the ask is not like, hey, do you want to fall in love and get married? The big fear isn't finding out that they're in relationships.

I actually did find out that this guy was single and then it became scarier because I knew that a rejection like wouldn't be because he was married because that doesn't scare me. I'm not afraid of, you know, like finding out, oh, you know, he's he's already committed. Like that doesn't feel like a rejection, like being told, no, I'm not interested in you. So that kind of, as much as that seemed like it would be a step forward, kind of felt like a step back. Here's another thing about rejection. I think you should look at rejection. You just have to flip the switch of the way you're looking through things. Flip it upside down.

Think about the opposite. Every rejection is closer to getting what you want, right? That's true. Say you get rejected by five guys to meet the person that you're going to marry. Wouldn't you want to get there faster? Yeah. That's a good point. I mean, there are only so many people in Montreal.

Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of people in Montreal You're going to be fine, you're beautiful You have a great spirit, it's all good All good vibes, spread the good vibes And do it, and report back, let us know what happens I will, I will, absolutely And you'll never know if you don't

If you don't ask, if you don't give it a shot That's right, that is very true And yeah, if only we're in a place Where I could have, you know, a glass of wine Before, but It would be funny to have a glass of wine And then go to the gym just for the purpose of Asking him out on a date

That's something I would do. I'm certain that would really be helpful for my appeal. Awesome. Thank you, Perry. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Nice to meet you. Bye.

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Well, our next caller is Jeannie, and her subject line is, I cut off my MAGA mom. Oops. Question mark. Dear Chelsea, I've been at war with myself since January 29th of this year. That was the day I blew up at my mother over the phone and called her a hypocrite and a fascist and said I never wanted to talk to her again. I'm 53 and my mother is 85. She's ride or die MAGA and in complete denial of any facts provided by me or anyone else. She's so far in the cult, she doesn't think he lies, like at all. During his first term, she kept a framed picture of Trump and Melania in her living room. She's never done that with any other president.

She's largely steered clear of initiating political conversations with me, but it's hard to avoid discussing Trump when she asks how I've been because I'm so overwhelmed by all the terrible things he's doing. After the invasion of Minnesota and the killing of Rene Good and Alex Preddy, I was sure Mom's position on Trump would have changed. In that final conversation, when I asked if she still supports him, she said, yes. I'm not proud of this, but I lost my shit. I told her she would have supported her Jewish neighbors being hauled away if she had lived in Germany in the 30s. I told her she would have supported Japanese internment camps.

Both events we discussed at length when I was a child, with her stating how awful these were. Her values have shifted, and it's very hard to tolerate. in case you're thinking she's lost her marbles that's not the case she's sharp as a tack now that a few months have passed i think i've made a mistake yes her position is hypocritical and immoral but she's my 85 year old mother who has maybe 10 years left on this earth as a mother she's great always loving and supportive she's been a doting grandmother to my two kids the war with myself is should i apologize and resume our relationship or do i continue to refuse to normalize her repugnant views either option feels terrible but i don't want to lose these final

years with her chelsea what would you do in my position genie hi genie hi hi genie this is adam scott our special guest hi oh my gosh hi how you doing hi i'm okay yeah i feel for you i you're not alone at all i mean we get people calling in about this stuff all the time i think what i've come to realize in the recent weeks is that i think you should treat her even though she's got she's with it mentally you have to treat like MAGA people like they have mental illness like you have to think of it like a mental illness they're part of a cult and they've been tricked clearly they've been tricked if she was teaching you about the holocaust and Japanese internment camps she's been tricked just like all of these people have been tricked into thinking that this person

cares about them so even though it's so hard to compartmentalize that I think you should just really think of it like oh she's a victim of a scheme you know like she's chosen even though she has free will like i mean she has chosen to be in this group of people but you have to look at it like it's mental illness and you can't okay you just have to because you if you want this relationship with your mother which i completely understand why wouldn't you you know i think you just have to go to her i don't know that you have to apologize per se i think you should go to her with like love and and be like listen you're really you're old you're my mother I need to I want I mean you're not you're old you're gonna die but you know like I want us to spend time with

each other you've been a wonderful mother I know we don't agree on this stuff and I think it's the best thing we can do is just to not discuss it and really focus on just having a loving caring relationship and not bring up politics and I know that's really hard right now but I think you can do it because it's your mom you know you could talk about your family you could talk about your kids do you have kids yes i have two teenagers okay great so there's plenty to talk about right yes you know what now that you framed it like that like she's been tricked like sometimes the elderly do get yeah if i can if i can look at her that way i think i can manage to be calm yeah okay when and just just not talk about it i think that's our only course of action

i know how tricky it is though because it's i think back to like george w bush or reagan or george bush senior and back to back then i had friends that were republicans back in those days and it was so much simpler it was a political it was a disagreement on politics and so when people now are like it's just it's it's just a disagreement why is it such a big deal it it is different though it's a disagreement about fundamental truths and about reality so i know how how this how hard this is for you and i'm sure it is so difficult to separate it from because it's so ingrained in everything because what all the mega followers have been duped into is so fundamental and is so wide reaching but i think what chelsea said is exactly right it's just

a matter of zeroing in on the things that you can talk about and just focusing on in on that and it is true she has been tricked and a lot of older folks have been a lot of older folks who are omega have been kind of uh pulled into this thing and taken advantage of so you don't think i'll be compromising my values no i'm having okay it's your mother it's your mom and she's older and she's not going to be around for a while i don't think you're compromising your values i really respect that you're asking that because i feel like i think about that stuff a lot too it's like oh no it's your mother it's not like a guy you're dating and you know what i mean yeah it's not like that this is you don't have a choice who your parents are and this happened to your mother

this happened to your mother that's how you have to think about it this like this you know this mental illness happened to her so if she were mentally ill how would you react to that you wouldn't cut off ties with her you would be really supportive in every way you could be you don't have to be supportive of her politics but just be supportive of her as an individual and provide the love and caring and don't wait for her to get it because she's probably not going to get it. There's not going to be anything that's going to happen

that's going to change her mind. Even when he goes down, she's still probably going to feel the same way. So don't, like, let go of that if you can and work on letting go of that. Like, that's a good kind of mantra for you to, like, say let go of that. Don't hold on to this hope.

I have those feelings all the time about, like, these people. What are these people going to do when, when the emperor has no clothes, obviously he has no clothes. We're watching it happen in real time. It's, they're never going to get it. They're never going to say we were wrong. I mean, some people will, but most people are not going to say it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I get, I get that you're principled and I get that it's making you sick. It makes anyone who

doesn't feel that way sick. You know, we're all dealing with this in our lives, but just focus on her being your mother and just think of her as, as really sick. So because initially my impulse was to write, you know, a very educational letter and cite sources and give her the information about how these migrants are being treated and just provide lots of evidence that maybe I could change her mind. But I think what you're saying is it's it's not worth it. There's nothing I can or anyone can say at this point. No, what Trump has tapped into is like a different part of the brain than logic and reasoning. It's something totally else.

It's like your amygdala. It's your fear component. That's it. Everyone's like working off of fear. But just divorce yourself from the idea that she's going to ever get it. Don't waste your time. Your time is probably better spent doing other things

like showing up for the people in your life that do feel the same way you do and like doubling down on love and kindness for strangers and the people who are being affected by these terrible policies. That's what I try to focus on when I get really angry is like, okay, flip that anger into positivity. So I think, you know, I think you're gonna be good

and you're gonna be happier if you just make nice with her and make peace with her, because it sounds- And you think, just pick up the phone, say, hey, mom, I regret losing my temper. I've been thinking about this for several months. And I do think I made a mistake. And I would like to just moving forward, not talk about politics. Let's just focus on family and resume our relationship.

Something like to that effect. I don't even know if you need to say that you made a mistake. I think you just say, I love you and I miss you. Yes. And can we just resume our relationship? I love you, I miss you. Yeah. Be sweet and be funny if you can.

Yeah. Be like, I love you. I missed you. And like, you know, I don't know what your relationship is like, but be cute and short. I don't think you even get into the political stuff right now. If it comes up again, just say, hey, you know what? We don't agree on this. And I'm really focused on, I just want to spend as much quality time with you as possible.

So let's talk about the kids or what's going on with you in your life that's not political. When the situation presents itself, then you can say something, but not prematurely. I don't want you to reactivate that. I think you just go in with love, and that's hard to deny. I think that's smart. Okay, this helps so much. You don't even know how much sleep I've been losing. I'm sure.

It's horrible. So I really appreciate you. You know, Chelsea, you're so wise. And I just, thank you. And Adam Scott, oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm talking to you. Anyway, but thank you so much. And I'll let you get to your next caller. Thank you.

Thank you, Jeannie. Nice to meet you. Bye, Jeannie. Follow up with us, okay? Okay, I will. All right. Bye. Bye, thank you.

Oh, we really helped her. Yeah. That was sweet. It all comes down to, I think the number one hat trick of Trump's is that, and it's fundamental that he turned the truth into a political position. He's convinced everyone that the truth is a far left, radical, political position. So when presented, like if she wrote up a bunch of evidence, like she said to you, it's just going to be seen as propaganda. Yes, exactly. You know?

Right, right. But it's nice when people are really, not when they're tormented, but when you can really actually help them, you know, like come to a, because all you really need is an outside perspective, I believe, with any situation. You need someone who's not involved in your life

to kind of give you some feedback. Because no one else, you know, no one's going to steer you wrong unless you're completely a malevolent person trying to ruin people's lives. Okay, Adam, I love talking to you. I'm so glad you're here. Me too.

Oh, I got your DM. You asked me. You were like, I sent you a video. Yeah, it didn't play. I didn't see what it said. I didn't even know I sent you a video. Really? So that was news to me.

It was probably telling you how great you were in Severance or something. Oh, that's nice. I do a lot of video messaging because I feel like I like to bring that back. I feel like we've lost the art of that. But you guys can see Adam right here on Netflix. You can watch The Whisper Man with De Niro. And another one of my favorites, Michelle Monahan, is in it as well. And Adam plays De Niro's son in this movie.

And Michael Keaton's in it, too. And Michael Keaton. Oh, I didn't want to give that away. I thought that was a giveaway. Is that a secret? Well, isn't it? If you think about it. I guess not anymore.

Well, Michael Keaton's in the movie, too. Okay, there you go. I'm just so glad, Chelsea, because we've run into each other a bunch over the years. And you're always so kind and so cool and funny. and I'm a fan of yours regardless. So I'm glad we finally got to like sit down and chat. It was really great. Oh, likewise.

I feel the same way about you. Thank you. Thanks, Adam. If you want advice from Chelsea, write into DearChelseaPodcast at gmail.com. Dear Chelsea is a production of iHeartMedia. Follow Chelsea on all socials at Chelsea Handler and find Catherine on TikTok at Flash Kadabra.

Dear Chelsea is edited and engineered by Brandon Dickert, Executive producer, Catherine Law. Find full video episodes and minisodes now on Netflix and get tickets to see Chelsea live at chelseahandler.com. I survived nine months in captivity and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are The Survivor Files.

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