Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Having a Felch with Toni Collette

Episode Date: December 25, 2025

Actress Toni Collette (Wayward, Goodbye June) joins Chelsea to talk about why Rome is her happy place, what it feels like to get your character wrong, and finding her inner creep for her role as a cult leader.  Then: A baby actor struggles to leave his family to pursue his career.  A stepmom struggles to connect with her stepdaughter after a sibling is born.   And a sister’s tactless behavior results in an awkward confrontation. * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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the door cracked? No, I'm not. You know what? I just let everybody do their thing. Everybody just, I don't, you know what? I'm not the parent. I don't make the rules. There are big girls, whatever. When at Chelsea's house. Yeah. Yeah. Come on over. Have a good time. By the way, have like eight people staying at my house for like three nights. I don't know. I don't have enough room. So people are going to be sleeping with strangers. I got to tell you, instead of an air mattress, I don't know if you have these, but Coleman makes cots that are actually very comfortable to sleep on. I will send you a link. Well, I mean, I have the space. It's just that people are going to have to sleep in bunk beds that don't know each other. And like, I don't

have a big house here. Yeah, I always have bunk beds, always in every house. Smart. In all of my homes. So who's our guest today? Oh, yes. We have another one of my favorite actors is on today. She's an actor and a singer and a songwriter. She has two new projects that you can catch her in the show Wayward with Mae Martin and her new movie Goodbye June. And they're both on Netflix. So please welcome Toni Collette. And here we are with Toni Collette. Oh, my God. One of my My favorite people, actresses, I love you. I love you, too. And I hope you know how passionately I feel about your, I mean, listen, I'm not alone.

So I can't claim that I discovered you or I have some special way to see you because everybody loves you since we first found out about you. Oh, my God. I know, I know. It's such a great introduction. I can't stop talking. Yeah, keep going, baby. I can't stop waxing poetically about you.

My introduction to you was Muriel's Wedding, which, of course, is, you know, I mean, I still quote that movie as along with millions of other people but in the past few years you have been churning shit out sister you have been working your ass off I've been lucky yeah yeah you are yeah it's nice to be working and it's nice to be appreciated for the actor that you are wow that's that is an incredible introduction thank you so much far out you're welcome you're welcome and you deserve it well I am a fan of yours also as you know for those who don't know we do dm each other on instagram we have a kind of a funny little friendship going on and i'm so i actually thought we were going to be together that of course you're in whistler because i've

read your book and that's where you like to be but yeah right back at you i really really align with much of what you espouse yes we're both very political too we both are very much about posting and making sure people know how we feel so i of course respect anyone who stands up for shit so and i know you do um and you've actually turned me on to a couple of different instagram accounts that I started following when I saw your post about them. So thank you for that, yes. And most recently, you stood up for Paul Dano during this whole, like, weird thing.

Yeah, what was that? What is this? Quentin Tarantino needs to shut the fuck up. Isn't he already in trouble from a couple of years ago? Like, why is he feeling free about going after people? It's pretty weird. And also, Paul is incredibly talented and the most beautiful person.

Who does that? Where does it come from? It's pretty confusing, actually. What did you say about Paul Dano? Oh, I just posted an image from that scene that I have with him in Little Miss Sunshine, which, by the way, is 20 years old. There's an anniversary screening at Sundance next month. Oh, that's so cool.

That was a great fucking movie. 20 years. It's a great movie and he's wonderful in it. And there's that moment where his character is so passionate about becoming a pilot and then when he realises he can't realise that dream, he freaks out on our road trip, pops out of the car, runs down into a bit of a valley and has a breakdown and I go down to try to communicate with him

and it's completely heartbreaking and he's wonderful. And all I did was post that image from the scene and pop a little crown on his head. That was it. No, he's an incredible actor. He's wonderful. What was that movie that he did with Patricia or that series he did with Patricia Arquette?

Escape from Dannemora. Oh God, that was so good. I haven't seen that. Should I be watching that? Yes. Oh my God, yes. You need to see Paul Dano in that movie. Okay, thank you.

It's about a prison escape and there's like a torrid love affair. It's so fucked up. It's so good. it's kind of reminds me of the staircase tony oh actually it's as fucked up as the staircase oh i know what your favorite scene is in the staircase are you referring to that i think that's how we first connected yeah because i posted a scene what do you want to describe the scene why don't you just i would love you to actually what's your take on it this is a great scene in the staircase

you guys which is based on a true story right yes where tony plays the wife and uh what's the actor's name that plays your husband colin firth colin firth right colin firth is like accused of murdering his or you know he it's it's up in the air people don't know what happened you know it could have been him or it could have been an attack by fucking birds yeah so there's a scene in this movie the retelling is plausible the owl attack for quite some time yeah until i realized that that talon mark changes when they actually grab onto what they're aiming for. So it didn't quite match up

with that mark on the back of her head. Yeah, right. So it wasn't a bunch of birds. It was an owl. Either she got attacked by an owl that led to her death or her husband pushed her down the stairs. So you decide just by listening to this podcast what happened.

But there is a scene in this movie where, first of all, it's incredible. I mean, it's a series, not a movie. It's a great series, incredible series by Antonia Campos. There's a scene where Tony's in the kitchen, her character is in the kitchen but so is Tony. Just cooking it up and then my husband has some gay tendencies and he wanders in and decides to just you know whip my pants down and have a good old felch. Yeah a felch. That's a new one for me. Yeah it's a new one for all of us. I mean I was so

petrified about doing that and I poor Kate my costume I had to come in and like pack the crack of my ass with like all kinds of protective stuff so Colin didn't have to you know actually eat ass right you know what you know what's so funny it's like there I don't know of any other ass eating scene in any series that I've ever seen so I could because Patrick Schwarzenegger another person who's in this in this series he and I because he died when I posted that because we're friends and okay friends with their family and he was just like oh my god I go it's just so out of the blue all of a sudden there's an ass eating scene in the middle of this this drama about murder and you're it's very unexpected and shocking it was revealing about his character

and what he was into and that you know what their yes relationship and what you were willing to what your character was willing to accept in your relationship as well or welcome i should say yeah i think she was into it actually yeah i didn't know that that was called felching i know about boofing but I didn't know about felching so okay now I know is it an Aussie is that an Aussie slang or is that vernacular I think it's vernacular but what's boofing that's a word for the same thing boofing is when you stick something up somebody's butt and it's just like like like alcohol or drugs right usually yeah I think it's like a popper or alcohol or drugs you can just like use your butt and it's called a boof I only know this because I was at a conference in

antarctica recently where i was on stage talking about my love of psychedelics and someone said how do you feel about boofing and you didn't know what it was you're like what i actually had heard about it antarctica had you been there before i really know no how was it was it absolutely phenomenal yeah it was did it make your heart just like it made me want to stay there until this administration is over i was like you know what they said listen any option at this point Yeah, they said you're coming at the best time to it's light out for two months. This is our summer. But it was majestic, Tony, like the icebergs when you when you're sailing, like you're on this vessel, obviously, you're going to through Antarctica from Ushuaia, we took this boat, and you're going and they see the first patch of icebergs in the distance. It's like a scene out of Titanic where they see the iceberg, but it's so massive. It's like a landmass. You know, they're not like just little icebergs. There are those as well. But the first one that you see when you pass like 60 latitude is like jaw dropping. Yeah, you're just like and you're watching it for like a day because you keep getting closer and closer and closer.

So it was pretty spectacular. How did you get invited there? How does one get invited there? You have to be psychedelic. So, yes, I'll never go. Another one of those, you know, silly little situations that I said, yeah, let's go. Good for you. OK, so let's talk about a couple of things, Tony.

First, I didn't know that you were the first person on the BBC to have an orgasm. What? Oh, in Wanderlust. Mm-hmm. I didn't know that either, but they made a very big deal of that. Well, because it was the first one. Hang on, was it first female or, like, male?

Maybe first female. Men are allowed to have them left and right. I'm sure men were having lots of orgasms. Very proud of that. Wow, yeah, I forgot about that. That was an incredible story. How can you be proud of it if I just told you about it and you didn't even know you were the first?

No, I just forgot about it. I did know about it. She's a busy woman. Yeah, I don't think of it every day. But, yeah, that show, Nick Payne's writing is incredible. He's kind of a bit of a prolific playwright and dabbles in TV and film and he can write anything really. I just love – what I love about his writing is that all the space

in between the words is so jam-packed with all kinds of information for you to mine. He's a beautiful, beautiful writer. And that show was incredibly liberating for that character, potentially just for women in general. She was a woman who was discontented in her marriage and wanted to explore things sexually outside of the marriage and they decide to open up their relationship

and everything that goes with it. It was really complex and beautiful. I loved it. I really hoped we'd do another season, but it didn't quite fly. Maybe the female orgasm freaked the audience out. Who knows? They probably weren't ready for that. It takes about 1,000 years after a male orgasm

for anyone to accept a female orgasm. Yeah, they exist. Sorry. Not sorry. So you grew up in Australia, right? Yes, Sydney, yeah. In Sydney, my favorite place. That's my favorite harbor in the world because there's no shipping containers.

It is very beautiful. Yeah, it's very pretty. So beautiful. Yeah. My kids and I, we all got our boating licenses recently. Oh, wow. That's cool. And it felt so, like, freeing and adventurous.

Sometimes I do things and I'm doing it for a role, and this was just like we want to do it and it was just the coolest. So, yeah, I can scoot around the harbour now. Oh, my God, how fun. And so is your daughter leaving for school soon? She's actually got the rest of year 12 to go. Okay, so you have one year to adjust to that situation. She might not.

She's incredibly creative and I am supportive of anything my kids want to do and so I don't know whether that's the trajectory she'll follow or aim for. you know, all roads lead to Rome at this point. It doesn't seem to be, it doesn't have to be that. Yeah, yeah. I know what you're going to say. For you, all roads do lead to Rome. Yeah, they really do. Yeah. You love Rome. You're always in Rome. Yeah. Well, I worked there. I did a film called Mafia Mama, which kind of was misreleased. It was kind of a bummer because the film's bloody brilliant. It's so funny. And we had a ball making it. And I mean, I'd always been to Italy. I think I was actually talking to someone last

night, the first time I went there was on the Shaft press tour. It was one of those big junk, like press tours where you go to all the countries and everything's laid on that doesn't happen anymore. And then I married a guy whose family was Italian. So we would be, you know, in and out all over Italy, but then I got to live and work in Rome in 2022. And absolutely, I was like, this is my place. This is where my greatest joy lives. And I just try to get there as often as I can. I absolutely love it. I've got a life there and friends. Oh, isn't that so nice? Yeah, it really very, it very much is. I'm so grateful for it. I can totally relate. That's how I feel about Whistler and like Mallorca. I mean,

I don't really have a lot of friends in Mallorca, which I kind of like. I'm like, this is nice. It's just me and myself with my thoughts, which I need more time with. So you have two projects that we're talking about because one is Wayward, which is a show that just came out, Mae Martin stars in. Also, they are a great comedian. They do a podcast, Handsome Pod with two friends of Vine, Tig, and Fortune. Tell us about how you got involved in that project. It was out of the blue. I just was told about this script. It was sent to me. I read it and I was kind of blown away. In a way, maybe it was undersold to me, but I was like, this is actually really amazing. And so I was intrigued. I didn't know where it was going.

And it really goes to places that you can't really assume at the beginning. So I remember having a Zoom with both May and the other showrunner, Ryan. And I was just struck by May's, which is hilarious now that I know them because they just seemed so calm and clear and articulate and May's not like that at all. Were they nervous to talk to you? Apparently, yes. We're thick as thieves now. So, you know, it's cool. And actually there was another job that came up at the same time, which was somewhat coveted. And it became a bit of a dilemma. They were both on Netflix and I was like, oh, maybe we can like work it out schedule wise. And that really wasn't going to work, which I still don't understand. But I ended up doing Wayward. And there's part of me like,

okay, this is happening for a reason. Show me what this is. And it ended up being the most profound experience. Really, really fun and really meaningful. Like it just was a good time. A good time was had by all like a you know a proper connected time with both the cast and the crew and that cast of like you know multi-generational cast and just it was so brave I think May is this incredible unicorn who's creative in all kinds of very impressive and admirable ways and I'm really really really so happy that I did it and that I know all of the people that I got to work with including May and Sarah Gaddon we're like the three musketeers. Why do you think it was such a profound experience um because it dealt with a lot of really deep shit you know that isn't often

addressed and done in a way that kind of only may can do um may i mean i call them a unicorn there's a singular kind of very fascinating person there and the show is highly original which is very unusual in 2025 yeah i'm curious to know how you say yes to projects like how do you discern which projects you're going to do? Because I am assuming you get lots and lots of offers and people want to work with you a lot. So how do you decide? Is it based on that material only or do you factor in the other things like where it's shooting? Who's it for? Yeah, it's a combo, I have to say. But it has to start with the material. It has to start with kind of forgetting that you're reading a script, that you get drawn into the story and that matters

to you beyond your own kind of career or what you might be able to imbue it with. You know, it's just about actually finding it fascinating and that there's some meaning that I vibe with really it's it's kind of that simple and then when everybody else starts to become impressive or not things can be clarified but it's generally the script generally yeah right right I mean you've played every I mean that you're playing a cult leader basically yeah yeah fun it's so much fun which is fun and I was trying to think of like is there a role that you haven't played yet that you are dying to play because you've really run the gamut you've had been in normal healthy family looking vibes and then very abnormal family vibes all right i don't i don't

have um let me get get a snack for him hold on one second get a biscuit well while she's doing that i wanted to ask your character in wayward there i mean i'm curious where you channeled this performance from? Because your responses to people, I'm thinking if I'm the other person in that conversation, whether it's like a pause that's just too long or the way you respond, I'm like, I would be so uncomfortable. And I'm wondering how you channeled that. At first, I really didn't quite know how to place her. She's a woman of extremes. And the scripts were great in that it wasn't clear where to play certain things, like how big or how dark or how funny. There were many options, like many choices to be made, which is an absolute gift.

So at first I kind of was really embarrassing and if anyone ever sees it, but I did a take, which was like way too over the top because I was just trying to figure out where she sat in the scheme of things. And it felt a little bit like, I don't know, like a Marvel character, like an actual baddie, you know? Sure. And then we were working with a brilliant director, Eros Lynn, who I actually worked with on this film called Dream Horse, this tiny little Welsh film which is like the most moving, beautiful story. And so he was directing it and just very quickly kind

of pulled me into the right area. It became more and more delicious just being able to play with where she's fucking with people and how she enjoys unnerving them and pushing them. But, I mean, essentially it's about trauma and I'm a great believer of you don't deal with this stuff, then you're kind of flying blind and it is kind of a life that's wasted. I mean, you know, we all have our own capabilities, but this woman was forcing young kids into areas which were, I mean, it's very

much considered malpractice. It was just like, there was no basis in anything good. It was just lots of really great ideas, but executed very, very incorrectly and somewhat dangerously. And I think the people involved were just lovely, you know, and those Canadians, man, they're good, decent people i know they're so civilized they're so civilized my shoulders drop when i get to canada i'm like oh i know yeah it's just so and willing to help everyone wants to help everybody when you do a scene like that when you said like you know your first take was over the top and or whatever you were trying to place the character modified by me now okay sorry sorry i turned up let me go yeah it feels like that who is the person that identifies that is it you

No, well, I ask. I'm like, have I fucked it? Am I way too – what am I doing? Where am I pitching it? Somebody tell me something because I am lost. I'm very, very collaborative, very open, very happy to take, you know, anything that will help from anybody. Right.

Okay, so you also have a movie that I just watched. It's called Goodbye June. You watched it? Yes, of course, of course. I do my homework. And it's a phenomenal fucking cast of women. It's Kate Winslet, who is one of my all-time favorites as well, who also directs it yeah she directs it i mean this is her directorial debut right it is yep

very much so very exciting she's in it uh andrea risborough who's fucking awesome is in it and helen mirren is in it dame helen mirren i said andrea's a firecracker she's got some of the best lines in the movie like if you don't stop clicking that fucking pen i'm gonna punch that cock off your body like she's so angry oh but there's so much hurt underneath it which is the great thing about the writing, all the characters. It's so funny because, you know, you grow up under the same roof and you have the same experiences and then you just turn out so, so differently to each other. Siblings are just so diverse and have these similar experiences, but just like they're so different. So I play the kind of woo woo. I guess I felt like potentially I was roped into

being a third parent because I was the oldest child. Everything felt too enmeshed. So I just move away and I'm this journeying woman on a kind of you know an experience of searching out seeking things and trying to become one with the cosmos constantly wears crystals in her bra and like has an alternative lifestyle and is into that kind of thing which I love because I just appreciate people who have the guts to just basically be themselves and live an authentic life it makes my stomach feel relaxed because when you have a guessing game with people it's too anxiety-inducing. So I absolutely love my character. So colourful. I hated taking her costume off at the end. I didn't want to let go. And I just didn't want to let go of it because

it was an amazing experience. So Andrea's character is really, really fucking angry at Kate Winslet's character. They were really tight. Kate, all she did as Julia was grow up and leave home. And Andrea felt abandoned and has been carrying around all kinds of resentment ever since. And then Johnny Flynn, the wonderful Johnny Flynn, who plays our younger brother, the baby in the family, Connor, still lives at home, kind of can't get his shit together, you know, low self-esteem, not much confidence, a bit like, you know, just can't get going in life.

And then Helen Mirren plays the matriarch of the family, our beautiful mother, who is nearing her death and we all come together to help her move into this next state of existence, the ultimate change, the big transition. Our dad is played by the wonderful Timothy Spall and, man, it was just the best. Kate is an incredible director. I don't, I didn't ever doubt it.

First of all, let me say I had always wanted to work with her. You do interviews and always get asked, who's the top of your bucket list, who would you want to work with? And I always said Kate because I just find that her choices are incredible, you don't see her acting, it's completely honest and she has such integrity and she's so grounded and real and I felt like I knew her. we had this mutual friend and now honestly I feel like she's my sister like we were always meant to

be in this kind of familial kind of relationship with each other I absolutely adore her and she created the most incredible atmosphere on set it was just so freeing and full of trust and it felt so safe I mean they're navigating possibly well maybe one of the most challenging experiences that we actually all will face and it's you know there are some really big vulnerable scenes and it just felt like we could try anything and we all gave it our all. It was a very, very special experience that none of us wanted to let go of. We're still like on a family chat where, you know, most of us are in New York here and we don't want to say goodbye

as the movie goes off into the world. But it's a beautiful story about family and, yes, it's about loss and, yes, you will definitely need your Kleenex but you will laugh as well. It's so relatable and, you know, there are some zingers in there. It's an uplifting, kind of heartwarming, life-affirming story. It's very, very special. It's funny what you say about, you know, growing up and having a different experience. I know there's Gabor Maté.

Yeah, I love him. He's incredible. He always talks about that. Because I always look at, because I'm one of six, I always look at... Six? My God. Yeah. Where do you fall?

Sorry? I'm the youngest. I'm the youngest. Oh, of course you're the baby. Exactly. I'm the eldest. Very different experience. Of how many, Toni?

Only three. Only three. But it runs in threes. Like if you've read, have you read Birth Order or the Sibling Effect or Birth Order? No, but I do subscribe to those ideas. I will read them actually. It goes in threes. It's like oldest, middle, youngest, and then repeat, repeat, repeat. It's a sandwich. Sandwich, sandwich, sandwich. Because I'm always like, listen, there's nobody else in the world that knows what happened in our house besides my brothers and sisters. And we're all like, yeah,

like we make a reference and we're like, yeah, we didn't get picked up on time either. Our car, house was embarrassing. My dad had used cars strewn throughout the driveway. My mom never went to any public-facing school. She wouldn't come to a play or a softball game or a conference. She just couldn't handle the other parents. She was probably just overwhelmed and exhausted having had six children. I'm going to take a bath while you're all out. She needed some Lexapro, I think, and she forgot to get it. So I think that was the main ingredient. But it is interesting watching this movie, Goodbye June, it was very much about family dynamics and very relatable to anybody who has brothers or sisters, especially during that time, because everyone has a different

reaction to what's going on. And some people can deal with the reality of the situation, whereas others are in complete denial of the situation. Yeah. Everybody handles grief differently. There are no rules. And actually, I think it's something they should teach in school. We don't know how to do it. And it's going to happen to all of us you know chaos family is chaos at times and it's gorgeously so and there are just these very real moments that are fucking completely heartbreaking at the premiere in London I couldn't I've seen the movie I was there I know it's happening I was the last person to leave the cinema I was like racked my body was convulsing I was crying

so much it just is very very powerful for a very intimate very quick shoot very kind of probably on the page seemed like a small story but it's dealing with the biggest thing death life life and death and love and family like all of it it's all of it i remember you remember that his reaction in this movie reminded me when my mom passed away my dad we were all in the room we were in a hospice and my dad was sitting there and you know the we knew her she had passed and like we're all just kind of together and my dad said i gotta go show a car to a client like some some random and like we all looked up at him and we just had no reaction we were like okay okay and then he goes and i need a i need a suit for the funeral and so can one of you do something and we're like yeah

and then he left and i was like i wonder what happens to him when he gets in his car and then my sister's like he's not our problem right now but it's so true that men's and women's reactions to things are so, it can be so surprising, but then once you see it, you understand. We all process things differently and there needs to be room for that. And maybe there needs to be a bigger, more accepting conversation around it because in the West we don't really, we kind of shy away from it almost as if it's taboo, like, oh, no,

that's, you know, pretending it's not going to happen. It's going to happen. Can't get out alive. Maybe this is a healing film. Maybe it'll start great conversations about being more, and actually when I was younger I was really angry at life. I was like, this is a fucking mean joke. What is going on?

What are we doing here? And it took a very long time for me to accept and appreciate the mystery of life. But I think once you have the context of life, you appreciate it more. I don't know. It helped me live more fully or something. I don't know. And what do you think gave you the context of life? Life itself.

I think you get given everything you need eventually. I like that. I know you did that show. Who Do You Think You Are, right? Oh, yes, I did, yeah. I did that show too. Did you? When did you do it?

Oh, years ago, probably 15 years ago. Oh, wow, okay. Yeah, I did it in Australia, obviously. That's where I'm from. And I was like, oh, this is amazing. It's going to go back generations. It went to my grandparents. It was like two generations.

Well, you are from Australia, so. But it's colonized. I mean, we're Irish and apparently, you know, there was a big journey to get there. But it was incredibly moving. It was just not what I expected, you know. Really? There's a lot of trauma in there, yeah.

Were there any surprises? Well, my dad's dad is not who he was told he was. Oh, wow. That's a surprise. Yeah, my dad did a DNA test with his brother who was alive at the time and found out that his dad was not his dad, which he'd always kind of questioned. Oh.

We still don't know for sure who my nan had a fling with, but I kind of felt really impressed with her. Me too. yeah she just clearly wasn't happy and found happiness elsewhere and my dad and I are alive because of that I am her joy you know that's a good way to look at it yeah I'm sure it's way more complicated than that but but that's okay it's nice every story is a love story at some point I agree okay we're gonna take a break and then we're gonna come back with callers we have we have people calling I'm so excited about this okay we'll be right back with Toni Collette cheers

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me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo and every

week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm gonna have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From best-selling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments nothing is off the table it's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters and that is a trojan horse whether you're looking for literary deep dives smart pop culture conversations or a community of readers who love to think a little too much you're in the right place listen to pro society on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts see you between the pages

On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it.

It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners.

Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. we've had a lot of great guests like sarah sherman not that great actually can you help me can you help me shape this yeah how about we flip it on his head okay how about we flip the script okay what is the surprise woman who actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird adam scott this entire time you've been expecting adam sandler to come to visit the

show i i would never let go of that i have i would never set expectations for something like that it seems like if the universe allows for something like that to happen i'm open to it i'm always going to accept you know danny mcbride fine yeah it's all this fragile masculinity exuding i could smell it walking down the hallway to be honest with you i was like is that weed nope it's fragile masculinity ben stiller no because a lot of times in out of context people don't get it or even know what a circle is you know what i mean like you're like oh what's this everyone's so dumb and fake right fake and and also not interested or just like oh i've got my life i don't care about your life and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are

without us oh and by the way will ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back with Toni Collette. Okay, Catherine, what do we have going on today? Well, our first question comes from Rachel, and I thought you might have some insight into this

having gone through the preteen ages with a couple of your kids. So she says, Dear Chelsea, I'm an American living in Mexico, not those idiots who move here to avoid paying taxes or create travel Mexico TikToks. I moved here over 10 years ago to work at an NGO that helps low-income families actually leave poverty. Incredible person right there. Anyway, about three months into living here, I met my husband, and now we have two kids, an 11-year-old girl and a five-year-old boy. The 11-year-old is his from a previous relationship, quite the telenovela,

which is a whole other story, but I have been in her life since she was three months old. His daughter and I have always been very close, but since my son was born five years ago, I feel like our relationship has drastically changed. She's becoming a tween slash preteen, and I know what comes with the territory, but this feels different. She hardly talks to me anymore. Even if I ask her questions, she will give me a very short answer or just shrug. She's so different with her father. She's a daddy's girl, so I don't take it personally, but when he asks the exact same questions, she tells him everything. I can't help but think she just doesn't want anything to do with me. I've tried asking her if she's mad at me or thinking about something else,

and she just brushes it off. I don't know what to do anymore. My husband hardly helps saying it's just a phase. Am I the wicked stepmother that she doesn't want in her life? Should I just blame it all on teenage hormones? What do you think I should do to keep the closeness we used to have? Hasta luego, Rachel. Oh, I can completely understand that concern. Hi, Rachel. Especially if it's been close. Are you Rachel right there? Yeah. Hello. Hi. So nice to meet you. You too. How long has this been going on?

Sorry, was that in the letter? So when she was born, we had the very close connection. And then my son was born five years ago. He's five years old now. She's 11. And that connection kind of dwindled. Like, because I think my son was born, she kind of felt that my motherhood kind of went to him more than her.

And so it's just kind of been rocky. I don't think this is an uncommon story. I'm just going to say that right now. Yeah. Yeah, I think when another sibling comes along, it's inevitable that you need to give that new person so much more attention and, yeah, the existing child can feel somewhat abandoned, right? So you're everything to them and they get all your attention and then there's a split focus. I kind of tend to agree with your partner. life keeps changing and I think potentially it really is a phase and and you can help her feel

safe in the connection again and maybe have some one-on-one time together and it will continue to change there are so many phases yeah yeah I have a question is she is her mother in the picture yeah I was gonna ask that too yeah so her mom lives like five minutes from us we have a really good relationship and so that's kind of it too like I don't want to kind of force her to call me mom or do those things you know I don't want that to be an issue but I also like there is one thing I was telling Catherine in the pre-interview like we had a mother's day event at her school and all of the kids like wrote their mom's name on a heart and they like threw it up when they were singing and she wrote her mom's name obviously because it's her mom but I was hoping

like maybe she would turn the card and it would have my name on it and it didn't and it was like kind of it was it hurt but I'm not going to tell her that because those are my emotions you know No, no, no. Don't put that stuff on her. She's 11 years old. So her emotions are just like not they're not that sophisticated. She's like coming from like, you know, there's no fear based and like, so she doesn't have abandonment issues, which is why I asked if her mom was in the picture. So one more question. Is she what's her relationship like with your five year old? They're great. Like they get along super well. She's very caring for him, kind of like that older sibling who always wants to make sure he's okay. So they have a great relationship. It's really interesting. She has a great relationship with her biological mother and the younger kid. Sometimes they feel they can express all the shitty, crappy feelings and project it onto the person they actually feel the safest with. Yeah, that is true. Is she disrespectful to you or just distant? No, just distant. And it's like, sometimes I've talked to her mom about it

and her mom's like, she does it to me too. Sometimes she's just like, see, see. And I think because we have her part-time when she's with us, she wants to spend as much time as she can with her dad, which makes sense. But I think I need to kind of squeeze in there and be like, okay, can I have a day or two

so that her and I can come back and connect and do stuff together? I would say also like back off a little bit and let her come to you a little bit more, but definitely exploit the relationship between your son and her make sure that that's a primary focus so that she's constantly feels needed you know what I mean and feels purposeful in your mind like she's probably starting to get to an age where she's like oh you know I can understand her feeling competitive with a five year old but but she's not taking it out on him and to take it out

on you is a little strange so you should be available to her like always make sure but sometimes when people push you away it's like give them double space not to be childlike or act immature but as a grown-up like oh she needs a little space right now let her have her space because it's an age thing she's coming gonna come back around when she needs something from you or she needs advice that maybe she can't go to her mother for or something you know something's gonna happen where she is going to need you but I know definitely when when kids that age are going through that emotion that like changing and they're coming into their hormones and puberty and all of that shit you can't discount how effective that is it's big yes things really

do change for them this like the whole world is like a constant like a moving you know yes so your job is to really just not take it personally like you're an adult and you're the adult in the situation so you need to take it not personally like oh she's not into me for this period of time in her life it is a phase it's always a phase everything in life is a phase there's nothing permanent. But yeah, just give her extra space and be mindful of the kid's relationship. It's important that she, you know, she's the big sister. She's the one that can make decisions when you're not around, you know, kind of putting some responsibility into her hands. So she feels really purposeful within the family unit. Okay, no, that's great advice. No, thank you so much. Yeah,

great. Thanks for taking my question, you guys. It was great to meet you. Lovely to meet you. lovely see you soon take care bye bye that was cute i know she's such a cutie that was sweet yeah it's so nice you know mothers trying to be better mothers and stepmothers trying to be better mothers i'm out here just trying not to get any children more children in my life so to hear magnet i know for some reason the more you say no the more they want you it's very interesting isn't it yeah she i mean the fact that she's so mindful and caring and wants to make it great is beautiful that's not wicked stepmother energy she's yeah yeah so our next caller is noah and he says dear chelsea my name is noah and i'm 19 years old i'm not going to say

i'm gay because you already know that since i listened to this podcast you are a badass i live in a mid-sized town in maryland i'm currently a college student studying for a bachelor of fine arts and acting. I have dreams of becoming an actor, and I've always seen myself living in Los Angeles. The problem is I have an incredibly close-knit family with three younger siblings and two parents who I'm very close to. I'm a homebody, and I've never really liked to leave home or even sleep away or really do anything on my own. So my question for you is, how do I prepare to make such a big move to another coast to fulfill my dreams? I still have a couple more years of college, so this isn't an issue that's urgent, but how do I become independent, self-reliant, and okay to

live so far away from people I love so much. Love, Noah. Oh, how bloody wonderful that you love your family so much and there's that connection and support and that you feel completely cozy with them. A lot of people want to get out. Thank you. Thank you very much. I left home at 19 because I just couldn't wait to get the fuck out of there. So my situation is different. I was the youngest, you're the oldest. There's a sense of responsibility that you feel that I did not feel. But my drive to become like wanting to start my adult life and become whatever it was I was going to become was paramount to that. So it's like you kind of have to, you know, A, you're not leaving your family. You're not. You're never going to leave your

family. They're here for good. They're locked in. So it's just about setting up a life where you are going to be back and visiting them and coming back. If you really are passionate about going after this dream of yours, it sounds like you are. I mean, you're getting an education for it. then you have to kind of know that like, there is, you know, you're going to come back for the holidays. They're going to come visit you in California. That's going to be exciting for the family. And you can stay in touch in a million zillion ways right now, you know, on FaceTimes and social media. Oh, it's much easier now. So, so much easier. So it's like, look at it not as a dread, but as like an adventure, you know, like flip the script and be like, this is the beginning

of this part of my life. And these are the sacrifices I have to make. You move to L.A., you're going to meet people, you're going to have exciting things happen there immediately because it's so new to you. And you just kind of have to get to a place where you're ready to make that transition. You don't have to do it tomorrow. But, you know, if you want to chase your dreams, you kind of have to start chasing them. Yeah. Yes. And there is something that happens when you go to, you know, somewhere where you're in a creative career, especially on one of the coasts, where you will find your chosen family. It takes a little doing.

It takes like getting out there and meeting new people and taking classes and, you know, getting involved in things. But you will find a family that feels very close to you. We all find our tribe. Yeah. You left home early because you went to school early, right? You didn't even finish school, Tony. I started acting in high school.

Yeah, I did. I did. I kind of started out singing. I did a musical and then the teachers encouraged me to go to like a youth theatre group. So slowly my world started to open. But, I mean, I wasn't prepared. When I did Muriel's Wedding, which was only my second film,

and I don't come from like they are creative in their own way but everyone's got like, you know, what would be considered regular jobs, you know. I'm kind of like my dad's like this is a miracle. Everyone's still pinching themselves that it ever happened. And there is some kind of I also felt a bit guilty for having these incredible experiences. and I was constantly on the phone to my family, you know,

trying to share the experiences I was having. I think ultimately what you come to realise at some point is that you are allowed to have your own life and your own experiences. And if you are passionate about acting and actually have that talent and that fire in you, it won't go away. You just have to follow it. You have to honour it because that's the breadcrumb on your path. It's going to lead to all kinds of growth and everything opening

and it is very much an adventure. and it's inevitable that you're going to meet new people because you have to put yourself into it. I love travelling. I think it's the best way to learn. You are put in situations that are completely unfamiliar. It makes you grow. It makes you open up.

And if you're doing classes, you'll meet like-minded people and creative people, they are just more, they are open, right? They just want to connect in ways that somebody in an office may not. I'm not generalising, trying not to generalise, but there's just an openness to that field. so I think you know allow yourself to to follow the passion I I think really that's all all of us can do in life that will lead you to the right place that will bring you to the good yeah when you know what you want to do that is the biggest gift I mean I don't know how many

people you've talked to that don't know what they want to do but we have a lot of people call into the podcast that have no idea what their passion is and they're looking to find it so that's already you're already ahead of the game by knowing. Thank you. Thank you. You're so right. Okay, great. Have you got plans?

Where are you sitting right now with venturing out into the world away from Maryland? Good. I mean, I've always dreamed of going kind of far away and being on my own, but I've always been someone who just is so – I'm so close to my mom and it – That won't change. It won't change. You're right.

You'll get closer. You're right. Actually. distance makes the heart grow fonder. And that's true. Like, you know, I used to hate my parents and then I went away and moved to California. And then the next Christmas, I'm like, I think I love you guys again. I'll come back. I just needed a break. You know what I mean? So imagine if you already have a strong relationship, it's only going to get stronger and enhance more. Exactly. Exactly. I think the other thing that is a little hard for me is that my,

my youngest sister is she's five. Um, and I just, she just started in kindergarten and And it's a little hard for her, just like it was hard for me to leave. And so I'm like such a part of her experience and wanting to. And I know, obviously, like you said, Chelsea, FaceTime is so amazing. But I still just feel a little like I want to be here for everything. For the day-to-day-ness. You're such a sweetheart. You're so sweet.

I appreciate that. Darling boy. You're going to have the time of your bloody life. And you're going to be a great role model for her to get out and do the same. Exactly. You're going to be the cool older brother. She can come visit like maybe even before too long. I know my nieces and nephews started visiting even by themselves when they were like seven

or eight, you know, so. You're right. And if you live near Disneyland, all the better. Exactly. You're so right. Exactly. Exactly. Okay.

Good luck with this career, this burning passion. Don't let that flame dwindle. Go for it. Thank you so much. Keep us posted, okay? Total pleasure. I will. I will.

Chelsea, you're the best. Thank you so much. Bye. Chelsea, you are the best. thank you so much good luck he had such a distinctive voice i was like you better be out here right yeah i love it yeah good voice i sounded like that last week i was doing all these radio interviews in london i was sick i sounded actually like a drag queen i love that sound i do too i'm kind of sad that it's come back i love it i love that i love that voice i

wanted to have it all the time sometimes you get too like i get too high or chirpy and sometimes i hear myself i'm like why are you screaming you know because you're excited it's okay i know i get too excited i think it's good to be excitable okay we'll take a break and we'll come back with one more and then we'll wrap up with tony okay we'll take a break we'll be right back the new red bull dragonberry and tropic berry energizers now at mcdonald's made with freeze dried fruit and an electric burst of flavor the all-new red bull energizers now at mcdonald's this product may not be right for you high in caffeine details at mcdonald's.ca and participating Canadian restaurants excluding Quebec. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive

for nine months. I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the Survivor Files. I just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week I'm with survivors who lived through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters,

then that is a Trojan horse. Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. On the new podcast, Solita,

we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita,

trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself.

So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. biz and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show we've had a lot of great guests like sarah sherman not that great actually can you help me can you help me shape this yeah how about we flip it on his head okay how about we flip the script okay what is the surprise woman who actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird adam scott this entire time you've been expecting adam sandler to come to visit the show

i i would never let go of that i have i would never set expectations for something like that if the universe allows for something like that to happen i'm open to it i'm always going to accept you know danny mcbride fine yeah it's all this fragile masculinity exuding i could smell it walking down the hallway to be honest with you i was like is that weed nope it's fragile masculinity ben stiller no because a lot of times in out of context people don't get it or even know what a circle is you know what i mean like you're like oh what's the state everyone's so dumb and fake right fake and and also not interested or just like oh i've got my life i don't care about your life and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us oh and by the way

Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back with Toni Collette. Yay. Let's do one more, Catherine. Yeah. All right. Well, this comes from Izzy and this is just an email.

So Izzy says, Dear Chelsea, first of all, thanks to you and Catherine for all your great advice. You're like the cool older cousin I get advice from way more than my actual family. And let's just say I made a big life decision recently, which was easier just imagining the advice you would give. Here's my issue. I'm 43. I'm the oldest of four siblings. My youngest sister is in her mid-30s.

My siblings are all very close and we accept each other for who we are. That being said, there's a specific issue that has really started getting on my nerves. My youngest sister almost never says thank you. from little things like buying her dinner to not texting me to say thank you when a gift for her kid arrives she lives kind of far away from me usually it's easy to let it go but recently i made what i felt was a generous purchase for her just because i make more than her but i didn't get so much as a thank you i know it's not her problem how i feel but i felt like it was just expected when what i felt what i did was above and beyond she's always been the classic baby

of the family. I know there's gratitude in her heart and maybe her ADHD makes it harder to remember to say something, but I want to know from you as somebody who's generous with their family, how would you handle this? Am I being too nitpicky to sit down and use an I statement and request just a simple thank you? Would love to hear your take, Izzy. No, I think that's general. Like it's funny that, you know, here we go again with the same families, you know, same parents, you grow up in the same family and you have different habits, but I think please and thank you are major criteria that are necessary for people. And that's your sister. So it shouldn't be an issue to go, hey, I've definitely said stuff to my family about saying please and thank you.

And it's not that you're doing it to get the thank you. It's kind of just like good practice to thank people for generous things or gifts, even small things. It's nice to say thank you. It's good manners. I totally agree. And it sounds like that you all really have great relationships. And this has just kind of slowly been mounting within you. It's a fine line, right? Because if you are a generous person, I think you kind of have to give without expecting, without expecting anything back, to be honest. Giving is about giving. But I can understand that you might want to have some, like you also don't want to be taken advantage of. so there might be a little boundary there that needs to be set or clarified yeah just a little

friendly reminder yeah it's like yeah this is something I would put in writing rather than say to someone but putting in writing alone just makes it feel heftier but sometimes it gives people more room to actually digest the information because it's written down in a sweet little email like if you wrote her send her an email and said hey you know you're my sister I love you I'm always going to be doing the nice little things for you but I've noticed a couple times where I've gone out of my way for you and I haven't even gotten a thank you and that kind of feels like either maybe you don't want things from me and if it could be that I was thinking that as well some people are uncomfortable with receiving no matter who it's from right and so they don't know how to

respond because it's overwhelming to be spoiled in a way I don't know what was given did we talk about what was she didn't say I think she's trying to keep it anonymous yeah of course yeah but if you bring that up in the thing if you say that in your email like listen maybe you want me to stop yeah maybe you don't want these things for me it puts it off of you and the thank you more and it gives her the opportunity because maybe she doesn't want gifts from you but it gives her the opportunity to go oh god a if she does she's gonna be like no i'm so sorry i do i don't even realize i'm not saying she probably doesn't even realize it i'm sure she doesn't yeah yeah yeah so she'll probably be mortified. I definitely would say something. It's your sister. You can say anything

to your sister, you know, even if they get mad, it's going to be okay in a couple of days, you know, based on the close-knit relationship you have. But definitely, I mean, these are manners people need to have. Please and thank you are kind of the two most important, you know, phrases in the English language. To add to what you were saying, if you make it more about making her feel comfortable and it's less about how disgruntled you feel and just like, I just, I don't want to overstep the mark. Is it okay that I did that? You know, I just didn't hear back. Like, yeah, It's kind of done in a way, a very generous way, making sure that they're okay with it rather than feeling a bit jilted.

I know. I don't feel comfortable getting gifts. I'm always just like, oh, God. You know, like I don't know why. Don't try and compliment me. It's like, you know, right. Exactly. Right, right, right, right, right.

But, yes, definitely say something and put it on the gift giving and we sorted that problem out. Okay. Well, you can see Tony's latest works on Netflix. Everything she's doing is on Netflix right now. So I'm sure there's going to be more to come. But Wayward is the series that you should watch with Mae Martin, who created. Created, produced, stars in.

Created, produced, starred in. Everything but directed. Yeah. And also make sure you check out Goodbye June, which is a beautiful film also on Netflix. Tony, thank you so much for your time today. I loved hanging out with you I can't wait to do it in person I really can't

I don't know why I thought that's what today was going to be but I'm really happy to see you and I hope you have a beautiful holiday season up there in Whistler and I just love what you do you make people feel great how brilliant that people feel so comfortable and right into you

about like these kind of personal dilemmas that they have that really says something about you actually oh thank you I love doing it I love doing it I love giving unsolicited advice so I may as well be solicited I kind of love it as well

I think I see other people more clearly than I see myself. Well, I think we all do. Actually, I've grown into seeing myself more clearly and so have you. But we all do. We all see everybody else. Like it's objective. Everything's a mirror, right? Yeah.

And who better to give advice than someone that has nothing to do with your problems? Totally objective. Yep. Yeah. This is a total pleasure. I'm so happy to see you and so lovely to meet you. And thanks for having me. Likewise, Toni.

And enjoy life. See you in 2026. You too. Happy holidays, Toni. Yeah, likewise. Bye. Enjoy. Thank you.

Bye. Bye. I just announced all my tour dates. It's called the High and Mighty Tour. I will be touring from February through June. So go get your tickets now. If you want good seats and you want to come see me perform, I will be on the High and Mighty Tour.

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