Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Into The Great Unknown with Riley Keough

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

  Riley Keough joins Chelsea to talk about loving and losing a non-traditional mother like Lisa Marie Presley, spending time at both Graceland and Neverland Ranch, and why it’s good to know where you came from.  Then: A cousin wants to spill the beans about a secret sibling.  A groom-to-be worries that his best friend will drink too much at the wedding.  And a surrogacy gone awry leaves a mom-of-two feeling lost.  * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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for pre-order my new book it's called i'll have what she's having very exciting title my editor came up with just to be on just to go on the record and make sure people don't think i'm talking about myself that way. But it's available for pre-order everywhere. Amazon, Barnes & Noble. There are signed copies at Barnes & Noble. I signed 10,000 books, hopefully 10,000. I'm not about 8,500 right now. Wow. So I have 1,500 to go and I think I'll finish it. I usually get the job done. And they're available at Amazon, Target, Bookshop.org, Audible, Barnes & Noble, Apple Books. Bam, books a million. That was the one I was thinking of. Okay. So you can pre-order my book anywhere. It comes out February 25th, which is my 50th birthday. So I was very excited to unveil

the cover on Instagram and on some sort of, I think it was People Magazine. Yes, People Magazine. Yes. And everybody, get your copy because we're going to have a book club. And so if they want a signed copy, do they just go to one of these real, like the first 10,000? I think so. The first 10,000, I'm not really sure. We'll find out. You can find out more here. I don't know. They just said, I know for sure Barnes & Noble bookseller and then bam books a million has signed copies. Awesome. That's fantastic. And then we have another book author coming book author author of a book coming on the show today who's here with us today. She's

an actor and director and her name is Riley Keough. She is the co author of From Here to the Great Unknown, which is the memoir of her late mother, Lisa Marie Presley. She is the granddaughter of Priscilla and Elvis Presley. And now the sole trustee of Graceland. Please welcome Riley Keough. Hi, Riley Keough. Hi, guys. So cute. First of all, I want to say, we're sitting here in my house. It's still not done.

I watched a lot of your interviews in promotion of your book, which everybody knows by now. It's called From Here to the Great Unknown by Lisa Marie Presley and Riley Keough. Yes. I've been watching your interviews, and I just want to say, I wanted to start by saying that with everything you've experienced in your life and everything that you have been through and exposed to, you have a very calm and grounded aura about you. Really?

And it's very easy to see. So congratulations on that. Thank you. That's an achievement. Yes, it is. I don't feel that way, but the aura is important. You don't feel that way? Not all the time.

How do you feel that way? No. Do you feel that way any of the time? I do some of the time. I have felt that, but I definitely have felt many other things. Yeah, I would imagine that to be true. So I was reading your book and when I got to the end and was reading the little author's notes and it said at the end of yours, it says she is the eldest daughter of Lisa Marie Presley and sole trustee of Graceland. And I thought that sentence, I was like like that made me just feel so overwhelmed for you like the sole trustee of Graceland like

what does that mean to you um you know I don't know I I think it just I think it's actually meaningful to me I think it's something that I have always even when I wasn't the sole trustee it's something that I've participated in in a sense with my mom and we were very close so like a lot of the Graceland stuff I was already involved in with her so I don't know to be honest it doesn't really feel like like that intense to me well I think that I think on paper it sounds yeah I did I was like oh I don't want that kind of responsibility yeah I mean there's luckily like there's a lot of people involved so it's not all on just my shoulders right of course they've been running that operation for a while I was there a few years ago when I was performing

over there. I think I, is there a venue? I think I performed there. That's where I was. Yeah. Okay. So this book was your mom wanted to write a book and she asked you to help her with it. There's parts that are in your voice and there are parts in her voice and it's heavy and beautiful and joyful. And you had so many beautiful, joyful experiences growing up and crazy experiences and different people in and out of your lives. And so I wonder what does it feel like a, to be the granddaughter of someone so legendary and knowing so much about him through your own family but without ever having met him yourself well I think my answer is probably a lot less interesting than people would want it to be but it's felt very normal to me I'm aware obviously that it's

a unique situation but I think that my perception of him was always familial and my relation to him even though I didn't meet him was through my family so it felt personal but I you know I can acknowledge the how unique it is but I think that even though he was always around and his music was always playing and he was kind of everywhere all the time it still just felt like a personal family connection have you ever sat and watched his films and and been like oh my god this is my grandfather this is where I've come from I have but I think I'm like the kind of person who's like obsessed with where I came from anyway so it's what's really cool is that I have so much of it to look at you know I think that I'm like very interested in my family history and my family

tree on both sides of my family so it's it's actually very cool and one of the coolest things for me being like obsessed with where I've come from is that our entire family tree and everything because of like archives at Graceland we have like a whole detailed thing but yeah it's it's uh I definitely have especially when I was a teenager would watch performances and and so what with your mother and her losing her father at the age of nine that was obviously something that she struggled with her throughout her life and the way you speak about your mother is in almost and you say this in the beginning of the book you say like I almost have I forget the exact wording but like a maternal instinct like may I sometimes think about if I were mother a mother to my own

mother and to my grandmother, which I thought was very powerful. Yeah. So tell me a little bit about that. I, when we, when I was writing, I was talking to my publisher and I said that, and then I, I thought, well, I'm going to put it in the book because I don't really know exactly what it means, but it's how I felt. And I think that that was a feeling I had as far back as I could remember that I felt like I wanted to protect my mother and I guess, nurture her or mother her. And I had that with my grandmother too. So I don't know what, why. I think maybe, and not to say, by the way, they were both great parents and my mother was extremely nurturing, but I just felt this desire to, or empathy. It was probably empathy, honestly. Yeah. I think it's totally

natural. I mean, I think you want a mother as a woman, like, you know, you want to protect the people that you love and that becomes a kind of like mothering kind of not role, but you can be a mother to your own mother at sometimes. And I think you certainly have been from what's in the book I think so I mean I think it's it's it's more common than I'd realized in my 20s that you get to this point and you can become the mother or your relationship changes with your mother yeah in my case it was kind of drastic because there was drug use so it was like a kind of a 360 situation but yeah it's like kind of an inevitable circumstance whether it's due to age or something you know so I think that it's always in you, I guess.

Yeah, I think that it's also the role that your father has played in your life and your brother's life and your mother's life, always this constant, you know, this constant presence and them living together even after they divorced and that relationship and how long they stuck together and how he, as you say, was such a protector of hers. What does your relationship to your father mean to you

after having gone through all of these losses together? Well, our relationship my whole life has been incredibly close. Actually, all of us, my mom, my dad, my brother, all of us four and my two younger sisters, but primarily us four, we're very, very close. And I think that there's this sense like that we're the only two left out of that family that was created. And I also didn't expect it to be me and him. so there's this weird he you know he he's kind of a wild card my dad and he's I hope he one day writes his own book because his his story is so fascinating regardless of my mom like he's just one of those people that has the most insane life but I think that there is this sense of we share a lot of the same experiences and and loss and grief and suffering in a sense but also the love that was there so it is it's very unique like I feel very grateful to have him I mean yeah I mean during this time of loss or I know it wasn't right back to back but between your brother and your

mother I mean you needed another witness there I mean anybody would are you close you're still close with your grandmother right I am yeah we're close we are she's wonderful I mean we've been close my whole life and I think that a lot I've been doing a lot of press who've you know asked about our relationship because obviously there was a lot of news when my mom passed but ultimately Like, we have never, I mean, to this day, have never really had an argument, and we're fairly close, you know. We're a pretty average family other than the random, you know, lawsuit and oddity here and there. Oh, right. Oh, right.

I wasn't even talking about that. Did that get sorted out? It did. It did. Okay. Okay, great. That's good to know. So, but your father lives in, you live in L.A.?

Yeah, I do. And your father lives in L.A., right? He does, yeah. so I mean I don't know I kind of looked at it like I was reading it and I'm like god your dad and you kind of sound like soulmates yeah I think we all like there was a sense between all all of us that we were soulmates or something you know like him and my mother my brother and myself and my father like there's there was such closeness there that I think a lot of my processing of their loss is like also processing the closeness as well and realizing how unique that was well

you talk about in the book when your brother took his life and that you knew that your mom wasn't going to be able to survive that for very long instinctively. And you talk about how you guys all just kind of came together and stayed in the house and really grieved together and didn't talk about anything other than Ben and, you know, really honored him. And I thought that was very powerful because not a lot of people know how to do something like that. No. And I think that it was a unique situation because it was COVID. So there was also nothing to do and we were all stuck in the house. And so, but I also felt very grateful for it because I think that had life been its usual self that maybe I would have, I don't know, tried to escape some of the pain. And I

think that the way that we grieved, you know, it's obviously like a lifelong process, but in that moment was really effective I just kept feeling like in the moment like the only way out is through I remember and I just felt like I had to feel it all and had to be present through it and I think that because we were all staying in this house and because it was you know the pandemic it allowed for that kind of grief which normally you just kind of just go you know go back to work and have to process while you're juggling life. Well, and it seems like your mom, from what I read, organized times for you guys to be creative together and grieve together and process. Can you talk a little bit about that? Yeah. I mean, I think that when he passed, like her whole life

was then grief, grieving my brother, like in mourning essentially. And I think that at times that was intense because that was, you know, she had a very strong personality. And so whatever she was feeling was how the room was feeling. So I think that her feelings dictated everybody around. And I think that she was kind of firm in not wanting to ever stop grieving my brother. And so it was kind of like when you're around me, like I'm in pain and that's just how it is uh-huh but the honesty in it was really um i mean her in her whole life and in her grief was very um powerful too did you feel at all like you suspected your mother wouldn't be able to survive ben's death and that she was going to struggle with it which initially she didn't right she

stayed sober for a while you write about but did you feel at all i mean it felt like when you were on the plane ride coming home and texting with your dad about, you know, whether or not she was alive still, that there was almost an acceptance from you that that was the way it was going to be instead of sometimes, you know, we resist and fight the reality that we're in. I think a lot of my lifetime has been acceptance. Just being around a lot of addiction and situations that were not in my control. So by the time she passed, I think I had had a lot of practice in accepting what is not that it's not painful but I think that you know through her addiction my brother you know things with my father like there's been a lot of things where

I've just had to like there's nothing to do other than surrender to what's happening so and there were there were other things that had happened with her health like she had had a seizure which I mentioned in the book prior so there were these moments where I kind of had placed myself in that scenario and also through her addiction I thought it was a very likely outcome that she wasn't going to make it through her addiction so there was a lot of bumps in the road along the way but I think ultimately when my brother died I did I could see that she was here you know begrudgingly you know and and so there was for whatever reason I in that moment I did feel a sort of I don't know I just felt like I accepted whatever was going to happen.

And also the idea that she's finally at peace. Yeah. Right? And on some new adventure. And I mean, I know you're probably spiritual, right? I gathered that from your writing. Yeah. I think that's the other thing is that I like through these things that have happened, I

think I've chosen to look at death in a way that feels, I don't know, truthful. like the most like from my experiences i guess through loss and through grief and stuff i guess i've chosen that i like to look at it as more of like a wonder of life as opposed to like the end so i think that i try to apply that because we have you know no idea so i like to live in the the wonder of it instead of the i like people who talk about that they the idea that they do know what's going to happen it's like or that when people say something like drowning is the most peaceful way to die you're like who told you that yeah who told you that worst nightmare no shit i'm like that is the worst possible scenario um what do you feel a responsibility

i'm sure you do but how do you how does this work in your life with your younger sisters how old are they they're 16 oh yeah so you're like are you like a mama bear to them i think so you know they're i'm not their mom but i am i am their older sister and i think that i've you know spent a lot of my life I'm 20 years older than them so it feels more like an aunt or a mother kind of relationship than I don't know the other day one of them said you feel like you're my age I was like oh thanks but um I yeah it's definitely more like a you know I'm much older so it does have that sort of dynamic and do you feel a sense of responsibility to continue your mom's spirit with with your sisters and to like carry on the traditions that she gave you guys and taught you

Definitely. Yeah, I definitely and I and they do, too. You know, they want to like they want to, you know, honor her and do things she did and stuff. I don't push them in any direction, but I kind of see what indicates to them and then follow their lead in that. Yeah. It's funny when I read about your dad and your mom, they both have such huge personalities. You could see that. And I'm not saying you don't have a huge personality. I'm just saying when you come from two people with a huge, with two big personalities like that, how do you find your way? Because you're an artist too. Yeah. I think that my dad is actually probably more similar to me. Like I would say that I'm actually, I would say I'm an introvert and I would say my dad is as well. I think that through like film and having to be in this world, I can be extroverted, but naturally like I am more of an introvert and not in a sort of like shy way, but just in a more quiet way. I don't know if that has to do with my mom being so large or not.

But yeah, I've thought about that before because she was such a, you know, presence, but I don't really think so. I think that it's maybe just my personality. Or lack thereof. Were you nervous when you sang for Daisy and the Six? No. You weren't? I wasn't because I don't know. I think like I have like something wrong with me where I like don't get nervous.

Really? Really? Yeah. That's great. I know. I don't know why. I just I think it's like I have a sense of humor maybe. Do you have fears?

Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. I have fears. Because I was going to say that's usually when you have no fear. That means something. It's like your amygdala. You don't have it. an amygdala no i'm i'm like a total like neurotic person but it's it's like about you know i'm a

hypochondriac like it's other things right but i don't know i think i just like if i fail at something like this or if i was to try to sing and i couldn't do it i i just i don't know i just didn't take it very seriously i guess that's refreshing yeah seriously i mean especially in this industry a lot of people are very self-serious yes i know i'm i'm very not self-serious okay so you spent a lot of time at Neverland on top of Graceland, which Oprah mentioned. She's like, this is the only woman that's lived in Graceland and Neverland. How do you view Michael Jackson and your experience with him? My experience with Michael was obviously through a six-year-old me's lens. So it was very fun and larger than life. And all the things that we

would do together were always like big events so it was just like my memory of it was just everything was fun all the time but my life was kind of like that like our life was kind of nuts you know in comparison to my life now which is very normal like small and kind of normal you know so I think Michael and my mom both enjoyed creating these extravagant scenarios so that was kind of my experience right but with the impact of everything that we found out about Michael Jackson and all the allegations like did that have an impact on your view of the situation of their marriage of their marriage and just yeah like did I mean you must have been like are these things true right about him yeah I think that I mean at the time I wasn't aware of the case and

it just became something that was just sort of around like there was never a conversation about it i'm sure my mom would have had those conversations at the time with other people but for me it was just this thing that i guess i ended up just kind of knowing about but i never like there was never a conversation with my mom where she kind of sat me down and went like so you know right there's this allegation you know but by the time that that was in my world i was much older and michael wasn't really right in my universe well when I was reading, I mean, I was surprised by what she was divulging in this book about being married to Michael Jackson. I was like, oh, I didn't, you know, as an outsider, you looked at

that. You didn't know that that was real. You didn't know that they had chemistry, that they had an intimate relationship per se as an outsider. So I was like, oh, wow. I found that fascinating. So this is a nice Scientology success story, right? It was nice that, like, I've heard so many negative things about Scientology. It was kind of nice to hear your mother, them helping her get sober and having community and wanting to be there and that was the place she felt safest for a long time yeah I mean I think it was like the way she would talk about it when she was here was very funny like I don't know if the tone comes across in the book but it was kind of like nobody would take care of her but but them you know so I think she felt this sense of like community

and really cared for when she was a teenager and I think she was you know self-proclaimed like very difficult. So I think that, you know, that was her experience. And then did she, she ended up leaving Scientology at a certain point, right? Yeah. Well, she, she like, I think the way I phrased it was like, I don't know if it was a chicken or the egg kind of a situation, but she basically, when she started taking opiates, she kind of up and left like her whole life and moved to England and fired everyone in her life and left her religion and her life and her friends and just moved to England and wanted like to totally start over and at the time I wasn't aware that there was like a substance abuse issue so it just sort of to a lot of people around just

felt like this random really intense cleansing cleansing of people and things and and nobody really understood what was going on. And then she got to England and, and then the sort of pills progressed. So it wasn't so much her leaving Scientology. She kind of just like left her life a bit. Like it was a escape from everything. What's your relationship with drugs and alcohol? I would be so scared if, you know, like, I mean, maybe not scared, mindful. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I think that I've never had like addiction issues. I've smoked cigarettes for a really long time and that was hard for me to quit. But I never like had a sense that I had like a dependency on drugs or alcohol for whatever reason. I have no idea because my entire family are addicts. But I just, yeah, I think that there's like a fear there that it can, the thing, the reason why I think there's a fear is because my mom's addiction was, to me, felt random at

40. So it felt like this like kind of scary thing that came out of nowhere. But I don't, I don't foresee that. But I do have this sort of like fear around how it's sort of, I don't know. I don't know what the fear is, but there is this, yeah. But I don't know. I also just like don't really like drinking. So I think that's.

Well, there you go. That's going to be helpful. I mean, you know, and I think some people have that personality and some people don't. And if you're in that kind of pain for that long amount, you know, for that period of time, and it was clear from reading this book that she was never getting over her father dying, which why would you? You know, a nine-year-old doesn't know how to digest that. And then that hits you, usually at 40. Like I lost my brother when I was nine and I went into deep, deep therapy at 40 because everything turned. And like I can totally understand why it would creep up on her at that age because you're suppressing and repressing for as long as possible. Right. And escaping and all of the other stuff. OK, on that note, we're going to take a break and we'll be right back with Riley Keough. There's no shortcut for saving time, but saving money is simple. Just combine your car and home insurance with Bel Air Direct and save.

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they're married by the way oh yes i knew that our first question the subject is family secrets and this comes from jay oh perfect jay says dear chelsea i come from a large catholic family and grew up with 16 cousins on one side, the side that this secret involves. My grandparents had seven kids. I was the grandchild whose parents had me when they were young and never married. My mom's no longer in the picture.

When my parents dated, they hung out with his brother who was closest in age to him and his then-girlfriend, my aunt. This was around the end of the 70s. And when I was a kid, my mom told me that as teenagers, that aunt and uncle got pregnant and had a baby. Anyway, my aunt... aunt and uncle, the brother and sister? No, no, no. Sorry. So this is the two brothers.

These are a lot of characters. There's a lot going on. After 16, I was, yeah. So her, it's her dad's brother who was closest in age, that aunt and uncle. So his girlfriend and this is just an aunt and uncle. One of the seven. Okay. One of the seven. Okay. When I was a kid, they got pregnant and had a baby. My aunt was of course moved to wherever for nine months for secrecy. And the baby was given up for adoption quietly yes my uncle knew and my mom knew because they were friends but my grandparents didn't know nobody knew until my mom told me my aunt my uncle got married and have three other children together so the oldest male cousin is not actually their oldest fast forward to about three years ago when i was talking with my aunt i was tipsy and i told

her that i knew about her first child this child this child was a boy and would actually be the oldest cousin she was in obvious disbelief but told me they're still keeping the secret from their three other adult children my aunt has met the son that they gave up he came to a church function and sat in the back and saw his parents and siblings from afar i want to tell them so badly their other kids the aunt and uncle are in their 30s and 40s and i'm bursting at the seams that I'm the only other person that knows this. Do I blow up my family and tell them or just shut the fuck up?

I'll add that these three cousins of mine are super great people. They have spouses and kids of their own and this is just so effed up. Thanks, Jay. I would keep that to yourself. It's not your place at all. In my opinion, you do not want to,

this is not your secret to tell. Your mother, for telling her, her mother told her, she's, that was a big thumbs down. It's not your first, these aren't your brothers and sisters. this isn't your nuclear family I know they're your relatives but yeah mind your own business here that's not your secret to tell what do you think I think I agree with you I've had some

things like this in my family and I think that it is best to not you know I think unless it's a I don't know I guess it depends on what your intention is I think if it'll cause a lot of hurt then maybe it's yeah well you can have a good intention and it can still cause a lot of hurt Right. Like you. It's not it's just it's like it's not your information to share. And unfortunately, you know about it. So that's your I mean, that's yeah. No, I don't think it's your information to share. Yeah. So it's really it feels like it's just the three cousins that are her age ish that don't that are the important ones that don't know. You know, it's not like revealing an affair or anything like that. Yeah. And you don't have any sense of responsibility. Like, again, it's not it's not your thing. And I mean, I found out that I had a brother. We my brothers and sisters found out that I had a brother. We had a brother. And I had absolutely no interest in pursuing that relationship. I'm like, I have already enough brothers and sisters. Like, I didn't want to know that. You know what I mean? So don't assume that, you know, like what other people are going to want either. That's true. So, yeah, I would keep that to yourself and just try to forget that you even know that information. Would you even I mean, is there any world in which you'd encourage like the aunt to reach out or where you would reach out? Like if you're this person who's bursting at the seams? No, not to reach out. It's not her situation. Yeah. No, she's just accidentally found. It's like finding hearing overhearing a conversation. Pretend you overheard it and it's none of your business. That's what I would say. So, yeah, keep your mouth shut. All right, Jay. There you have it.

It's encouraging to know that's happening to other families, but I would suspect that's exactly right, especially with famous people, people coming out of the woodwork left and right. Oh, my gosh. The amount of cousins and siblings and things that we get. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Well, luckily now they have DNA testing, so you can actually be sure. Luckily or unluckily. Yeah, right. Yes. Right. Exactly. All right. Well, Chris says, Dear Chelsea, I was lucky to have the opportunity to bring two little boys into the world for another family as their surrogate. I know that sounds like

your worst nightmare. The first surrogacy journey had a few hiccups with the mom being a bit controlling, sending glass bottled water because our water wasn't suitable. Is this the surrogate talking? This is the surrogate talking, yes. Organic fruits and vegetables because she didn't think the organic produce I purchased was good enough but I chalked it up to her not being able to carry so she wanted to be involved any way she could. They asked me to carry their second embryo and the pregnancy started out a bit different. They were very consumed with baby number one and I get it because my wife and I have two very active kids of our own. I'd have to reach out to let them know that my OB appointments went well or that the ultrasound looked fine. They

rarely asked about the baby or me. The family is extremely well off and I felt like I was just someone on their staff rather than a close friend like I felt with the first baby. At 28 weeks, I was diagnosed with gestational diabetes, and that's when things started to go south. The mom was on me about my diet and exercise, even though the dietician she hired confirmed that my diet was perfect and I was doing everything I could to ensure her baby's and my health. At 37 weeks, I needed an emergency induction. The parents live out of state, and the mom actually tried to negotiate my care with my doctor to delay the induction so she could have skin-to-skin with her baby when he was born,

all while I was on the brink of organ failure and in labor. They made it to the hospital with 90 minutes to spare, and she got to do skin-to-skin with her perfect 7-pound baby. I experienced lots of blood loss and had an extended hospital stay, but still managed to kickstart my milk production for their baby. The icing on the cake was when they were saying goodbye, they didn't even say thank you. I was the one who thanked them for the opportunity

to be part of creating their family. In the days and weeks after, I struggled with all of the trauma around the pregnancy and delivery. So my question is, do I confront her about this experience? I'll be done pumping soon and would like some closure, but is it worth it to let her know how she made me feel? Or do I just let it go and move on? Because at the end of the day, I achieved what I set out to do, helped create a family for someone who could not. Thanks for your help, Chris. Wow.

Hi. Hi. This is our special guest, Riley Keough. Hello. Hello. Wow, that sounds really, well, traumatizing. Yeah, yeah, it was. Like part of me is just like, am I being so trivial that like, I don't know, I should

just like move on and get past it because I did what I set out to do. But I still get triggered for little things. So I don't know. I think you have every right to speak your mind and it doesn't have to be in an angry way. Like I think probably putting it in writing is the best way when you are ready and when you are done breastfeeding and providing the baby with whatever things. I mean, you did finish your quote unquote job and set of responsibilities, but I think it is cathartic to let someone know

that you felt not looked after or taken care of. Them not saying thank you, all of the things that you're talking about, those are real things and they're very hurtful. And I definitely don't think you should just suck it up I think it's important to state your peace in a loving kind way when someone has kind of crossed a line or a boundary or taken advantage of you and not and not shown you respect and grace doing something that is the most invaluable thing you could possibly do for another person which is carry their child yeah I just felt like it was such a disconnect from like the first pregnancy to the second pregnancy and like I something like switched and I was just like this employee of theirs I don't know yeah I mean I

wouldn't I understand what you're saying and but I wouldn't focus it on that aspect like your relationship changed you should just focus on what didn't feel good you know what I mean because I think there's a sense saying our relationship changed is almost like you have expectations which you totally can have but you are doing them a service you are providing them a service right they're paying you to provide them a service. That doesn't mean they should be allowed to treat you any way they want. But I wouldn't start from that angle because it's like, it's not a relationship. It is a service. It's a transaction. And that's what you were hired to do. So expecting more of a friendship is almost, I don't think that's where you jump off of, you know? I think

you have to really just voice what, what they did that felt so icky to you. Like this felt really bad. I really was so looking forward to providing this for you again. And we had such a great experience the first time, you know, you could mention that this didn't feel great for me. Then I definitely didn't feel like, you know, you cared about my wellbeing or however you want to phrase everything that happened to you, but you should definitely get that down. Not only for you know to send to her if you decide to do that for yourself yeah okay I mean how do you feel about it now that it's in the past I don't know I'm the I almost kind of I do feel like I need to address it it was very much swept under the rug it was just like okay they got what they wanted

and then okay and I'm like literally shaking in the hospital bed as they're like they're skiing in the glow of their sweet, perfect baby. And I just like as a mom, I'm a mom and I have children and like for her to just disregard that aspect, I think that is the most like the thing that's like eating at me the most. But now I feel like if I could write her a letter, I feel like that's probably a really good. Yeah. And not in an accusatory way, just in a way that you felt so sidelined and marginalized and all of the things that you're talking about like that didn't feel good at all i i wanted to do this out of like you know like this is something that means a lot for me to do for you and this is how you it left me feeling yeah what do you

think riley i agree i actually my child was born via surrogate so i yeah so i'm very grateful for what you do and I think that it's really important that it's of course it's transactional and it's a job but I think that it's a big sacrifice on your body and your mind and your family and I think that it's not just like somebody who's coming to you know clean your house clean your house or you know so I think it's I think it is important to to communicate that in my opinion yeah thank you yeah are you finding that you're having these thoughts like the anger and the you know troublesome thoughts that you're having are they coming up at various points during the day are you sort of ruminating on them so it's like when i'm driving to work and like my mind is

wandering or like i'm shipping milk to them like when i go drop off milk i like replay everything all over again yeah that's when it's happening yeah you might as you're writing this letter when these thoughts come up, jot them down in like a notes app, jot down these things as they're coming up for you, because it helps to just sort of get it out of your body, get it out of your mind. And then you'll sort of have all of the talking points that you want to address when you go to write the letter to her. And then you can kind of just pick and choose like, okay, this note I wrote in a moment of anger, this note is like maybe the best version of myself or like this particular part of it and kind of choosing the best version of how you how you want to

express yourself, but you'll have everything sort of like over time dumped into one place. So you can tackle that letter from a place of, you know, respect for yourself as well. Okay. No, that's good. That's good. Thank you. And with every negative thought you have in terms of like seeing this out of your own body and stuff so that you are able to let go and be free of it, every time you have these thought patterns, I want you to also have an opposite thought. You know, whatever your negative thought is, match it with an opposing viewpoint like oh but i was able to provide them with this child i was able to provide them with something that they couldn't do for themselves make sure you're

reminding yourself of the honorable thing that you did that is beautiful and like so you know it's the most important thing you could do for somebody and i can't think of anything more important to provide so to start just getting it out of your body because you don't want to be angry and hold on to that anger you know and you might write that letter and then realize like i don't even need to send this. Yeah. But if you do need to, then you should. Yeah. OK. OK. That's good. I like that. Reminding myself of the awesomeness. Would you be a surrogate again for anyone else? So I'm 40. I'm so old. That's when you have your midlife crisis when you're 40. You have more. That's what's happening. That's a part of it. We were just talking about

turning 40 and what that does to your brain. Yeah. No, I can't. Actually, my doctor would she'd be like no you can't she told me you cannot have any more kids yeah especially for anybody else yeah well that's wonderful that you did that so pat yourself on the back yeah over and over again and I think in lieu of reframing too you could also think you know I did this for this family but I did it for this child you know so even you know forget the parents you did it for this child and that's really cool yeah you're right you built you built a little house for a baby yeah i did you babies oh two babies that's right that's right yeah yeah yeah all right okay thank you chris yeah take care all right bye guys bye when you hire a surrogate yeah do you go

through do you interview a lot of people you do i think everybody's different i personally interviewed or i looked at if like three different families because you kind of talk to the the surrogate and also that their partner if they're in a relationship too and we use like an agency so they also put the candidate forward that they thought was the strongest and that was kind of the one we were leaning towards but yeah there were like three or four different surrogates and I'm curious as like you know with your whole history how do you feel about being a mom like your family is so mom heavy with all of your girl experiences you know and generations I mean it's a wild experience there's definitely a lot of I think it was very unique to lose my mom when my daughter

was five months old you know I think that having a young child when you're in grief for your own mother's like because I think I think your your own mothering comes up a lot regardless because you when you have a child you start reflecting on the way you are parented and and the way you were mothered and so that was already happening and then so losing her at that time was it was a very um strange time and I think that the hardest thing was I felt like my mother was such a great mother and she was exceptionally great with babies like with infants so I felt like very alone you know yeah but this really beautiful thing started happening where I could kind of like her instinct was so loud that I could hear her when I needed help. I really felt

like I could hear her voice and what she would want or, you know, like I, my daughter was really sick about a year ago and I was kind of panicking about it and I could kind of hear her going, you know, like 101's not bad, 102's, you know, 103, go to the doctor, like hear her voice. It very strange so it's it's definitely been like an emotional thing and I think I think that I personally have so much attention on parenting and wanting to be and I don't know if that's this generation because like you go on Instagram and it's 10 things not to say to your kids or maybe that's just my algorithm it's probably my algorithm but it's very like there's so much therapizing and advice and things not to do that it's very overwhelming i just read this thing

today on instagram on my plane ride that was like you know when someone's having an anxiety attack don't say everything's going to be okay i'm like i thought that's what you're supposed to say i mean this stuff with kids is crazy it's like don't tell them yes don't tell them no don't tell them you know they're doing a good job don't tell them they're doing a bad job don't don't look at them you know and it's like really overwhelming so i i you know i don't i i think i try and go by instinct but it's i think it's something i really don't want to do a bad job at to the point of like obsession yeah and yeah you know but it's also such a gift to be able to sit here and say as an adult woman i had such a good mother yes do you know like that is a gift i know and through and

you know she certainly was not like a i don't know what a perfect mother is well she wasn't a traditional she wasn't a traditional mother by any means but i am so grateful to have have had her as I had that kind of love. And I know that's, you know, well, there's a really beautiful passage in the book where you talk about almost like channeling her where you realize you're singing the same songs that she sung to you and using the same little cute voice that she used with you with your own daughter. And I think that sort of like family, like channeling through our ourselves, our ancestors is like kind of unstoppable. Yeah, I wish there was more language around that, you know, because you touch on that a lot in the book, like

this kind of intergenerational knowing like you come from this huge legendary person who you feel like you did know because of the closeness of your family and i wish there was more language because we are our ancestors we are living with the trauma with all of the whether it's addiction or whether it's other genetic makeups like we are carrying on what our ancestors have been through you know and we don't talk about it enough now we have like sprinkling you know conversations about it where people touch upon it like oh okay it makes sense that if you're you know no one in your family swam or you know that every that you're scared of water or if something terrible happened to one of your ancestors and they had a drowning that you could have that reaction

to water and it's like there's that conversation needs to be opened up more yeah definitely yeah Well, our last question today comes from Stanley, and he's going to be joining us on the phone. Stanley? He must be gay. I'm like, there's... It took me a second, but then, you know, so his fiancé is not a woman, so we're relieved. We don't have any straight men listening to this podcast. Dear Chelsea, my fiancé and I have been together for 11 years and are finally getting married

in September of next year, but there's one small issue. One of my groomsmen is an alcoholic. We became best friends while bartending together and currently run two separate bars for the same company. When he's sober, he's amazing. Great conversationalist, amazing friend, and an all-around fun person to be around. A few months ago, he relapsed after four years of sobriety and has been drinking on and off ever since.

When he's drinking, he's loud, rude, obnoxious, doesn't know when to stop, and sadly, it only takes him a drink or two to get to that point. Now that I've already asked him to be a groomsman, his return to drinking has put me in quite a dilemma. I do not want the drunk version of him at my wedding nor at my bachelor party, but I would obviously love for him to be there. I should also point out that both my fiance and maid of honor already don't like him, so if he ends up drinking at the wedding, there's definitely going to be a problem. I do plan on telling him that he needs to be sober at our wedding, but I also worry

about him sneaking drinks or something. I don't need the stress of babysitting a grown man at my wedding. How do I go about having this discussion with him, especially since he'll be the only person at the wedding with that restriction? Thanks, Stanley. Hi, Stanley. Hi, how's it going? Hi, this is our special guest Riley Keough hi nice to meet you hi I think you have to say what what do you think I was just gonna say and maybe this is the wrong advice but I have had a lot of addict experience in my life but I think what's hard is like probably not having him there would probably be sad right yeah yeah long term so I was thinking you definitely need to anticipate that he will get drunk and maybe you need to get him like some kind of designated babysitter for the night

that's not a bad idea actually one of my um i don't know what we're gonna call it but she's my wedding party too she already offered to be that too because i talked to her about it as well you know she's like i don't care i'm making sure there's no problems at your wedding i think where i've always gotten caught up is expecting it not to be that and then it ends up they end up doing the thing even if you have a conversation even with the conversation yeah I hear what you're saying because if it's it but you said sometimes he doesn't drink right yeah he goes off and on he's I think right now he's not right so maybe what you do is you have this conversation with him in the most loving way possible like this is such an

important day for me I'm so honored that you're going to be part of it with me I can't wait I do have to ask you to not drink I do have to just ask you just to put it out there so that he can you know he may take that very seriously and in and then also as the backup plan what Riley offered is to have the friend just be on the lookout knowing that there's a good chance he might not be able to control himself and start drinking but you might be surprised you know I mean you might he might be able to get through the wedding without it the bachelor party is another situation I think that's a little bit even more difficult to not drink at yeah but I would just really tell him like this is so important for me and you know that you when you drink you're not

the best version of yourself and I need you to respect that this is my day and and to be there in the way that I need you to be there and if you can't commit to that then that's okay just let me know and let me know and we'll figure something out like give him the option to to commit and make that promise to you I wouldn't say the bachelor party and the wedding I feel like that's Too big of a hill to climb. I don't know. Do you need his presence at the bachelor party? I guess if he's a groomsman, right?

I mean, I was honestly just thinking about it earlier today. Like I wouldn't be mad. I mean, I have been to parties with him where he was sober and he was fine. He was, you know, playing all the games with everybody and like just ripping soda water. But yeah, I also like I come from a family that has addiction issues. So like I am totally up for people's boundaries. So if he for that reason couldn't go, I would not be mad at all. Absolutely.

Absolutely. And that's perfect. Then it's a trigger for you. You come from a family with addiction and you don't... Just give him the option. You're welcome to come to the bachelor party and I do want you at my wedding, but these are the conditions. And if you can't meet them, no harm, no foul. I'll miss you, but it would be better for me to be able to enjoy my day and not worry about you drinking. You're a better version of yourself when you're sober. I understand you're struggling, but this is my request from you out of our friendship. Yeah, that's really good. That's really good advice and i think that's a conversation you can have in person right yeah yeah i think so as well yeah i don't get to see him too often but i definitely you know especially working for the

same people we do get to see each other sometimes so that's something i could talk to him about for sure yeah and then your friend the one who volunteered then just have her on it and if he does drink you know she can have him removed she she'd be totally fine with that too i just that's covering all your bases yeah and you listen you might be surprised yeah i honestly was talking my therapist about it she's like he might you know just be sober already and i'm like that is you know best case scenario but he could take to it really well yeah yeah and it's honest conversation so there's nothing to be like you know it's nice that you're being so thoughtful about it as well yeah and good to have like a bossy bridesmaid in your corner i love that

Yeah. Yeah. I got a couple of them. So that's good. That's good. Well, have a great wedding. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you so much. Congrats. Awesome. Thanks, Stanley. Let us know how it goes. Okay. I will definitely. Thank you. Okay. We're going to take a break and then we'll be right back to wrap up with Riley Keough. There's no shortcut for saving time, but saving money is simple. Just combine your car and home insurance with Bel Air Direct and save. Get a quote at BelAirDirect.com.

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it's a good thing yeah i think it keeps you young yeah spirited it keeps you vibrant for sure you know yeah and uh yeah it's nice to be like i like i was thinking about it i was like god it's been like 20 years that I've 25 years that I've been in this business but 20 years of like hustling like that and I kind of love that about me like I love that I'm still up for it you know what I mean yeah it's amazing what's your schedule like in your life I'm uh I'm uh oh my gosh it really depends I think that similarly like I will have moments where I'm working a lot if I'm shooting a film and then I'll go home and kind of hibernate and then I'll go back out and then it's like high intensity and then i'll go home and like hide and then it's like goes sort

of back and forth yeah and whenever i'm always like i'm so tired i think of taylor swift just i'm like how is this maniac able to do this for three and a half hours three nights in a row dancing singing choreography guitar jumping into the floor i just i'm like what kind of energy is she what what energy boost is she on i need that so that's pretty impressive too but it was a delight to meet you. This book is so beautiful. From Here to the Great Unknown, what a gorgeous tribute for your mom, to your mom and following through and getting this done for her. And it's also an Oprah's Book Club selection. So you know, that's, that's a good endorsement. How do you feel about everyone's reception of the book? I feel really grateful. I was very nervous to put the

book out. It's really personal, especially the last few chapters are very intense. And I think there was a world where I didn't include some things in there. But then ultimately, I thought about my mom and her honesty and and what she would have done and I think that she would have put everything that's in there in there and ultimately like of course there's some funny like things in the news here and there but people have been really receptive and I think that particularly people who have lost family members or in grief or dealt with addiction I think it like is connecting on a level that's human despite the fact that it's like a super unique story and And so I think that that's been surprising, I guess.

I think I'm very used to people feeling very far away, sort of not perceiving my family to be human, I guess. And so I feel like the responses have been very human, which I really enjoyed. Yeah, and books are always powerful. It's nice to leave something in writing and let people kind of interpret it or reinterpret it and leave it out there rather than, per se, telling your story.

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