Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Just Boof It with Monét X Change
Episode Date: January 15, 2026Drag superstar Monét X Change joining Chelsea to talk about the best party drugs, the scourge of bunions, and everyone’s favorite subject: boofing. Then: A listener’s inherita...nce has everyone passing by with their hand out. A deadbeat dad wins the lottery. And a friend of Monét’s needs advice on their out-of-drag career. * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaPodcast@gmail.com * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees. This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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It's going very well.
I'm in Whistler.
I have three weeks off.
I am just really feeling myself.
I'm reading a great book.
It's called Copability by someone, Holsinger, Richard Holsinger.
Probably got the name wrong.
Anyway, it's all about, it's good.
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Yeah, what's it about?
Is it like nonfiction?
It's about AI.
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But it's fiction and it's a family story
And it's like you know dramatic
So it's good
It's got all the ingredients
I've been taking a lot of baths lately
Because I've been sick for about three weeks
With this my annual smoking pot cold
That I get
When I come to Whistler I always forget
That my lungs can't take smoking pot
And then I smoke so much pot
That I have bronchitis for three weeks
And so I'm sick every year
When I go do host the Critics Choice Awards
And then I come back and really fall apart at the seams
It's like the cold weather and the pot.
It's just like wreaking havoc.
The cold weather, the pot, all my bad habits coming together,
just giving me a grand old time.
Doug has started smoking pot too, by the way.
Great.
But there's a lot of things happening.
I'm about to go on tour starting in February.
My first cities are D.C. and Norfolk, Virginia.
So please go to ChelseaHandler.com to find your tickets for any of the shows.
I'm going to be coming to a city near you.
And this show is going to be on Netflix.
Yes.
So iHeart is teaming up with Netflix and full episodes of Dear Chelsea will start airing
on Netflix January 26th and older episodes will still be on YouTube.
Exactly.
And we're still going to put clips and stuff on YouTube, but for full eps after January
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It's so exciting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's exciting.
And I'm excited to go on tour.
I have so many funny stories about all the drugs that I've been giving away and I just
feel like I'm a healer.
You know what I mean?
You're like a modern-day shaman.
And our guest today is one of my favorites.
He's a friend of the pod, as they say.
This is a very gay saying.
You know, he's from RuPaul's Drag Race,
and her podcasts Sibling, Rivalry, and Monet Talks.
She is currently on her High Heels and Bad Knees comedy tour,
and then you can catch her on this season of The Traitors.
So please welcome Monet X Change.
Hi, Chelsea.
Hi, girlfriend.
Hi.
How you doing?
How are you doing?
I heard you had surgery recently.
I had surgery, too.
On your feet?
Yeah.
We both had feet surgery.
Yeah, we did.
How was yours?
Girl.
Did you do one foot or two feet?
We're talking about bunions, everybody.
Welcome to Dear Chelsea.
This is where we get down to business.
I only had them on one foot, but I had them, which means I had one on the outside, which
is called a bunionette.
That's a cute term, a way to put it.
Oh, that's very cute.
Because it's not a full-blown bunion, and it comes out of, like, your pinky toe.
That was my kind of, like, force majeure.
Like, I was like, oh, no, no, no.
I didn't mind the inside one.
It wasn't painful or anything like that.
But the outside one, I was starting to, it was starting to impede on my sexual life, I felt like.
That was the big one.
Because the one on the inside, the one, like, inside, it was unsightly.
The one on yours?
Are you talking about your feet?
Yes, on my inside, yes.
Oh, okay, yeah.
Because a real bad bunion is really hard to look at.
Let's be honest.
It's kind of like a bad bunny.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, you don't want to look at a bad bunny either.
Yeah, a bunny rabbit or a bad bunny, bad bunny.
Well, you know, not only bunions, girl.
I had my bunion and toes two, three, and four.
I had a slight hammer toe.
So what he did was he went and he cut the tendons on the top and bottoms of my second, third, and fourth toes.
So now I can't bend my second, third, and fourth toes.
They kind of just live this way.
They just are dead.
They're dead.
They're dead toes.
Do you feel them?
No, I don't feel anything down there.
I'm like fucking Mr. Deeds.
I don't feel anything on those toes.
You can stab me in my foot.
I also don't feel my foot.
Like I rammed it into my pinky toe into a table yesterday or the day before.
And the friction was alarming because I was like, ah, it was a thud.
But I also didn't feel a thing.
I was like, I was like, oh, wow.
I'm like, who knows if that toe is broken now, by the way.
Like it's all just, I'm like, I wonder if I will ever feel my foot again.
But were you awake for your surgery?
You were asleep, right?
You want to be put down, right?
Oh, no, girl.
I was awake for mine.
I was awake the entire time.
What kind of budget are you fucking on that you didn't get anesthesia?
Monet, what are you talking about awake?
No, he doesn't.
Because you have to be awake because he needs you to tense the toes so he can see where the tendons are.
So you have to sleep awake so you can, like, flex them.
Did you feel anything?
I didn't feel them at all, but I could hear everything.
Okay.
And I don't know about you, if you've ever heard a fucking tendon being cut, but it sounds
like it was awful.
For any listeners who are still listening, I want to apologize for this, starting a podcast
like this.
I mean, how unfortunate for them to have to hear this.
Yeah, it's fucking awful.
I can't believe you had to stay awake during surgery.
That doesn't sound right.
That does not sound right.
But he was hot, though.
He was this hot Cuban doctor.
So, like, I was trying to be cute for him, too.
So even in the most painful, inaudibly painful moments.
But first of all, you're not being cute to him.
I mean, you're opening up with a fucking bunion and three hammer toes.
So, I mean, it's not like he's going to be like, you know what I think is sexy?
Although doctors are good like that.
If that's their specialty, they're not turned off by that.
They are.
Yeah, right.
Doctors get turned on by you and paying you at your lowest point.
My fucking old dentist, I feel like he would come when he would be knuckle deep in my fucking teeth.
just pulling something out of that i'm like you're hard you like this shit well that's a private
fantasy of your own that's not first of all you said you were gonna send me mushrooms let's get
on to more fun topics you said you were gonna say you called me specifically like i want to send you
mushrooms and then i gave you my hotel in new york right yeah and then you dropped them there but i
had gone so who knows who the fuck has those mushrooms so you still owe me mushrooms i got
you girl let me tell you i am a mushroom factory i am a drug factory i'm coming to new york can you
send them to my hotel again because i'll be there saturday chelsea i you i think we've had this
conversation 49 times i live in la girl oh wait i thought you lived back we do have this conversation
45 no i live in la i was la four years ago i live in la so then why the fuck are you on a zoom
asshole because i'm in fucking rochester new york literally the worst place in the world i'm going
I'm doing stand-up this weekend.
I'm here.
It is avoiding your jealousy.
The comedy club is lovely.
Carson Comedy Club is great.
The city of Rochester needs to be under fire.
Someone needs to strike a match and light the whole city on fire.
By the way, Monet X Change is on her comedy tour.
She's on a stand-up tour, so you can get tickets for that stand-up tour on your website, right?
MonetXChange.com.
Monet X Change.
X for exchange.
There's no XE for exchange.
It's MonetXChange.com.
So that's where you get your tickets, everybody.
And she'll be in Rochester tonight.
And by the time this airs, that will be a long, that'll be an old story.
Speaking of not feeling shit, so I was at, I just did a, just got off of a gay cruise
with Audra McDonald.
What?
Audra McDonald and I.
Yes.
Audra McDonald.
I feel like you live on gay cruises.
Isn't this like your, this is not your first gay cruise, is it?
This is my fourth one in six months.
Right.
That's what I suspected.
They love me all those fucking cruises.
But do you love cruises?
But Monet, do you love cruises?
See, I only like the gay ones because they're filled.
It is literally a 24-hour party.
It is nonstop partying, drugs, drinking.
It is the greatest time of my life.
I'm just with all these hot fucking delicious men and my boyfriend.
And we're just sailing seven seas.
Do you guys hook up with other people?
All gay men that I know have an open relationship.
Well, we didn't start there.
We got there.
Yeah. No, no. I don't think anyone starts there, but you get there.
And yeah, so we do that. So they're great.
And girl, we were partying with Audra McDonald.
We're like at a white party. Audra McDonald like passing.
We're like, woo, hey girl. It's great. It's a good time.
And what was she doing? Performing on the ship?
Yeah, she did. She just got off of Gypsy and she did three shows in one night of just her own concert.
It was fucking divine. She's incredible.
Yeah, she is incredible. She is incredible.
I liked her reaction to whoever that lunatic, somebody on Broadway, Patti LuPone, when Patti
LuPone kind of went off on her and for no reason whatsoever.
For no good reason.
Did you see that?
No, on Audra McDonald?
Yeah, what did she say?
She was like, oh, she, something like they had, she basically intimated they had some
big beef and Audra McDonald's like, I have no idea what she's talking about, but I'm
sorry she's so upset with me.
Patti LuPone did it.
Yeah, it was ridiculous.
But I think Patti LuPone might be a little bit off center.
She's always got beefs with people.
Yeah, yeah.
she seems so argumentative
Chelsea I need to see you more
I feel like
I feel like you
we don't ever see each other
it really breaks my heart
when I see you on like
Hangout with all these
fucking loser drag queens
like you did
you did Delta Work
Delta Work
you did her podcast
I first of all
that's not a Hangout
I did her podcast
so that means
I went to go do a podcast
because I was doing press
you talk about hanging out
in personal life
in real life
I would be more than happy
to hang out with you
any time
especially now
for the 40th time
I know that you
live in Los Angeles
Every time.
You're like, girl, I'm coming to New York for your birthday.
Why do I think that you live in—
I literally flew—I don't know.
I flew to New York to come to your birthday party because I was like, I have to go to Chelsea's birthday.
That's so sweet because I also had one in L.A.
Did you really?
Yes!
Oh, my God.
That is so stupid.
I had a birthday party in L.A. to cover my L.A. and New York crowds.
I mean, my friends.
Oh, my God.
And that is hilarious.
I'm going to reimburse you for that ticket.
Don't.
Please don't.
Your love is enough.
No, but I want you to text me when you're in town.
I do want to hang out with you.
I love you.
I love your energy.
You've always got positive vibes.
I'm sure your show is fucking amazing.
If you're listening to this and you need to be cheered up,
go see Monet X Change on tour.
And by the way, she identifies as a woman, okay?
So don't get it fucking twisted.
Chelsea, can you be honest?
Have you ever gotten a boner seeing me in drag?
No.
You're like, wow, that's a hot woman.
No, no, no, no.
I don't get boners from drag.
That's not my thing.
I respect drag.
I appreciate it.
I totally, like, love that people can do that and express themselves in that way.
But it's not a turn on for me.
Well, but maybe not a boner, but like a jaw drop, Monet.
Yeah, like a jaw drop, like, wow, Monet's thinning.
Yes.
Yeah, I mean, you are.
You are.
Yes, a jaw drop is a nicer way to put it or a better way to put it, I should say.
Okay, let's go back to this cruise because I find cruises and ships, as soon as you say the word ship is where you lose me.
Like if it were just a cruise without the word ship, that would be different.
But as soon as I think like ship, my mind goes to shipping containers, large, large boats that like house 4,000 people.
As soon as it's mass, like in mass like that, I'm like, I'm going on a small cruise to Antarctica this in the fall.
I'm going to Antarctica.
You're choosing to go to freeze your tits off in Antarctica?
I want to go. First of all, I want to go commune with the penguins. Secondly, it's a it's a psychedelic kind of is the theme.
So I'm sold. It's a bunch of people. Well, you're not invited. So, I mean, you're going to have to get your own invitation.
It's a bunch of people who do psychedelics and work in maps, which is like all of these kind of researchers and like neurophysicists,
neuroscientists who kind of like figure out
all of the benefits of shrooming or, you know,
like not in your like spare time,
but more like medicated sits, like medicine journeys,
that kind of under that veil of medicine.
But how medicinal plant medicine is
and how medicinal LSD, all of those things.
So I'm taking one of my friends who's really into that
and we're going and I'm hoping,
I'm assuming there's just going to be
a lot of fucking acid on board, you know?
And that's going to be a great way for me to see penguins.
I mean you know what
I'm a big acid girl
I've kind of sworn off
acid recently
because my friend
gave me some edibles
some gummies
a set were mushroom gummies
a set were acid gummies
I was like great
one night I was home
I was gonna be home alone
for like the next couple days
I was like I wanna just
do some shrooms
and watch Spider-Man
Into the Spider-Verse
which is a great movie
to watch shrooms on
and then so I take the
I take the two gummies
and then like
half hour in
I was like wait
why does it take us long
to fucking kick in
I've had these before
they're great
come to find out
I didn't fucking take
the mushroom gummies. I took the acid gummies. I took two doses, two tabs, basically. So I was
literally, I was tripping my balls off in my house alone. So they weren't a microdose. They
weren't. No, it was a mega dose. I have the best acid. It's a microdose and it's a sheet of acid.
I'm going to give you some as soon as I see you next time. And I have microdoses of LSD and it
is pure and it is great. And I, I've only had two people complain and I've given it to about almost
a thousand well i mean but chelsea i am i'm big stock it always takes me 10 times more to get me
just as equally high as everyone else i feel like a microdose won't fucking work on me then you take
a couple then you take a couple you can take up to like i mean you can take as many as you want but
i i'll take i mean i've taken more than one in a day i sometimes take two sometimes six three but
you know what i love about um lsd microdose of these specifically is that it levels you up like
if you're hungover or you're exhausted, you wake up and you take one and it just brings you up to
the level you need to be to function for your day. If you're at a party or in a party situation and
you take one, then it puts you in more of a party mood. It's like you direct the drug. And that's
what I love about that. And it's not overwhelming. You're not hallucinating. It's not like that. It's
just kind of a, um, an upper, a big, good, healthy upper. It doesn't make you feel sweaty. Or
sometimes when I do shrooms, I'm kind of off of shrooms lately. Although I got a big bag when I
in Vegas this weekend.
Somebody gave me a huge,
a friend of mine
brought a huge bag of shrooms.
I wonder where those are.
And, but shrooms sometimes,
like I like real mushrooms,
but when you sometimes
take a capsule,
I get a little bit nauseous
when I'm coming up
and I don't like that.
It's not a fun high.
It's not a giggly fun.
I feel like you got me
with a chocolate bar.
It is.
I agree with that, Catherine.
I agree with that.
But also, the real ones
don't make me yawn.
Do you get the mushroom yawns?
I just start yawning
every two fucking minutes.
But you yawn when you're
coming up on them.
That's a thing.
It's like you yawn when you're about to get high.
Yes, that's how you know it's working.
But then it should stop once you're high.
Are you continuing to—
No, girl, I'm yawning the entire time.
I'm like, I'm going to fucking fall asleep on these.
Well, you should take your mouth shut when you take them.
No.
How do I fit the dicks in it if my mouth is closed?
That's right.
That's right.
I forgot.
Sorry.
Well, use your butt.
Can't you use your butt for all the dicks?
Just have someone hold it open.
Oh, my God.
I open up the cruise.
I said this joke on stage about me.
Listen, if you see me at a party, it was at the end of the set.
I was like, if you see me at one of these parties, I forgot all my drugs at home.
So if I come to you, if I come at you with my nose, whatever drug it is, just put it, fucking put it up there.
I'll sniff whatever it is, right?
You should not say that to 3,000 gay men on the show.
No, Ivan, I know that, and you're the gay one.
I was everywhere.
I heard people just pushing things at me.
And I was saying no for the most part until, unless I looked at someone, I'm like, you know what?
You look trustworthy.
Sure, I'll go with you.
And this guy, he asked me, he's like, do you want a little bump or a big one?
I said, you know, I don't know you.
Just give me a medium-sized bump.
He gave me the biggest bump of ketamine I have ever taken in my life.
And I thought it was a little bump.
So, like, 10 minutes in, I'm like, uh-oh, this is a big bump.
So, I literally, I run to the bathroom, and I lock myself in a stall and sit there for 30 minutes to let it, like, weigh myself.
Break down ketamine for me.
I did once take ketamine.
I think I snorted it.
It was years ago with two gay guys, of course.
and I was like, oh, I want to see you
because everyone, that was when ketamine kind of hit the scene
and everyone, all gay guys were taking it
and they're like, it's great, it's relaxing
da da da, and I'm like, relaxing for anal
sex or relaxing? Like, I mean
what's the delineation here? And they're like
no, you're going to like it. And I honestly just did
I did a line of it and I was like, I don't really
feel that much. Really?
Maybe I didn't do, maybe it wasn't
good ketamine or who knows, maybe I didn't do enough
but what, tell me about ketamine
like what is so great about it?
so it's like dissociative so if you're i find like i don't like that that's what i don't like
dissociation oh i do like that though because like especially when you when you're at a club
with like good music it kind of lets you like it kind of like lets you detach from whatever the
music is going on and like you detach from whatever the lyrics are and you're just getting
hit with the vibes of the music so like the music feels better dancing feels a little better i i
don't know it it it lets you detach a little bit which i enjoy at a club with music wow i want to
I would not want to be in a K-hole at a club, no.
But, like, a little bump at a party, yes.
And a K-hole is when you do more than a little bump.
Yeah, that's a big bump.
And you are, like, you're fucking Doctor Strange into the Spider-Verse sometimes.
You are detached, girl.
You are on another level.
Because what you described, like, disassociating and letting the beat carry your vibe is something that I could use when I'm dancing because I don't have any rhythm.
So a ketamine sounds like I should disassociate from my body because my body's been stopping me from vibing.
It's the only thing in the world I'm self-conscious about.
Not the only thing in the world, but it's my one major thing that I'm self-conscious about is my dancing.
So I always have to take a drug if I'm going to go dancing so I can just loose it up and not give a shit that I don't have great moves.
Ketamine will be great for you.
It will be really great for you.
Well, that's good to know for the next dance party I get forced to go to.
But I don't always love snorting things.
Have you ever snorted Adderall?
I've only ever snorted ketamine.
I've never snorted anything else.
Okay.
I once snorted Adderall, and that was really alarming.
It makes you hyper, right?
You just get really hyper.
Yeah.
I had to go to a charity event.
I had flown in to San Francisco from I don't know where, somewhere internationally.
This was like 15 years ago.
And I had a friend who was like, I was like, I'm dead.
I have to go speak at this event about this charity I was representing, which of course will remain nameless.
Otherwise, people will connect the dots.
I was like, I'm dead.
I can't I can't keep my eyes open and he's like do you have any Adderall and I said yeah he goes
snort it like that's the best way to like fucking get it I got on stage and was talking for two
hours I couldn't shut the fuck up I was so obnoxious I was so annoying and then when I got
and I had the worst headache the next day for like four hours I woke up and I just felt like
a whore on the loose and I was like I will never ever shove that shit up my nose again I don't
think i've ever done adderall oh that's not true i've had an adderall since then but i haven't
snorted it i would never do that again i don't know i don't love shoving shit up my nose the
way that i used to when i was in my 30s i don't like it at all i hate it i so so i hate i've
never done cocaine or anything like that because i just don't like how that feels i do ketamine
but what i do is i do this thing where they have these like wax lozenges and you take it and each
one is about 60 milligrams and you put it just in your in your thing like an edible and it just
like dissolves over like five minutes and then you get the same
effects as if you snorted it. Like in your cheek
sort of thing? Yeah, in your cheek. I like
all the different systems of delivery drugs
have now, you know? Boofing!
Have you ever boofed? What's a boof?
No, what's a boof? That sounds like a
fart and then like something to do with your
pussy. Very adjacent, very close
to. You put it in your butthole.
Just put it in your butthole. And it's like instant.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard
stories about, you know, I heard stories about
like, you know, rock stars in the 70s when
they couldn't, when they would, because people would do
so much blow that their noses would collapse the bridge of their nose or the stuff that's inside
the cartilage would they would like burn a hole through it so then they started putting coke up
their assholes to get high because that's then it goes directly into your bloodstream but why not
just do a gummy and wipe it around in your mouth doesn't that have the same effect or maybe not it
doesn't i think there are so many beautiful and delicious blood vessels in your asshole i think
that when you get the drugs right there it just really just and takes it right in how are you
enjoying being on tour are you with your lover is are they there or are you by yourself not by
myself it's just me and my assistant ty um he doesn't really come on the road with me you know
that was a really big part of our relationship like growing to discover like how because i am
super independent i like before my boyfriend i had one boyfriend before him but we were just
together for like five months it wasn't a real relationship this is my first like real relationship
how long have you guys been together four years okay so that's serious yeah so and then so he is
very codependent I'm super independent so finding that balance of like bitch yes I want you to feel
valued and me being around but you have to value my time and my solidarity so he comes to things
here and there like he came with me on on the cruise which was 10 days and we just did that
together so now I'm gonna do this stuff by myself and maybe a few dates in October and
I think also being on the road by yourself is just a better way like people always say they
get lonely on the road. I'm like, no, no, I don't get lonely on the road. I need that time alone
where I don't have anything to do all day until the show. I like that. That is my time to fucking
lie on my ass and watch TV. Or if I'm in a city that's worth seeing and going out, you know,
like when I went to Europe, I was out and about every day. I wasn't, I never turned the television
on, you know, but like if you're in a city that's not happening, then, you know, you don't want to
expose someone else to that. Yeah. And I want to sit down. I want to, I want to fucking read my
book order some order some fucking go to the gym i love going to the gym at a hotel that's my
favorite activity i love that's when i get my best workouts in when my trainer is nowhere to be seen
and i'm on my own so how have the crowds been are there any cities that you've been to that you were
really surprised about oh i was really surprised about sacramento because i mean i've done drag
shows in sacramento but you know me doing santa i've only been to santa for what since 2021 so
for four years now so that's when i started construction on my house 2021 i've heard about
this house girl yeah yeah yeah are you moving in chelsea great question great question i don't know
it's unreal it's unreal it is unreal i can't believe this is my life i make millions of
dollars a year yet i am staying in the guest room of a fucking friend's house for four years
which is a great friend
let me tell you something
there is no one
I have to bounce
by the way
it's not the same friend
I have to keep
fucking moving
because otherwise
I'm going to ruin
all my friendships
yeah I was like
I would tolerate
someone staying with me
for maybe a month
until I'm like
okay babes
we got to figure it out
yeah exactly
like a month is my first hole
I'm moving out now
I just got another rental
to move out
so that I don't overstay
my welcome with a friend
that I'm staying with
because she's been
so hospitable
and I really just
don't want to like
you know
we're having a really
nice time together
so I want to leave
while it's hot
You know what I mean?
I don't want her to be like, when the fuck is this woman going to get out of my face?
Because I don't just come with me.
I come with my housekeeper and then my dog person and then my dog.
And then it's a whole factory of people that come over every morning to make sure I'm awake and going to my—
You don't have to bring everyone over to the house.
No, but they have to perform for me because they think—because I have no house.
So they have to do something in order—they're like, well, you're paying me.
I'm never going to, like, suspend their payment because I don't have the house.
You know what I mean?
So I pay them.
i've been paying everyone for four years to work at my house but i don't have a house
so they just follow me wherever i go um while i'm in the country at least it's a hot mess anyway
you know what i mean i need to call a podcast like this and get some fucking advice when i
renovated my house i mean i so i bought the house and i was like you know what i see all these
people renovating houses i'm i'm i'm efficient i'm great i can do it two months into renovating
i was like this i'm way over in way in way in over my head i can't do this i found a friend of
mind he used to be um the senior vice president of merchandising for mac for like 25 years he
just retired and moved to la he's like what you doing i was like i just bought this house
renovating is ridiculous i don't know what fucking plugs or outlets or a venetian plaster i don't
know any of these fucking terms and then he came on and he project manager holding for me and he is
like a rude nasty angry gay that just gathered those fucking of those fucking contractors and
he got it done for me in two and a half years well i hope you have some ketamine straight up
his asshole. It's a big thank you. I really
hope you did because he deserves, he sounds
like he deserves it. The more people I
bring on to this project, the longer it
takes. Are you building the Taj Mahal?
You would think so. I mean
No, it's cursed because it was RFK Jr.'s
house. Yeah, it's cursed. Oh, no.
Fuck, girl. That's
what, girl, yeah, they put that
you're going to be talking like, hey,
you're going to have a crazy voice too. I hope I run into
that fucking asshole RFK at some point.
I have so much to say to him.
Not that he would sit there and listen to it because
I don't think he can even comprehend information.
He's so stupid.
I mean, shove a glass of raw milk in his hand.
He needs to ketamine up his asshole.
Boop him.
Yeah, we need to boop him.
Boop some raw milk up his hole.
I'm going to start booping people.
That's what I want to do.
That'll be a good way for me to channel my anger.
But, oh, sorry.
So Sacramento, I love Sacramento.
Sacramento is a really good time.
I performed there years ago in drag, but never doing stand-up.
And what I realized, too, every audience, every comedy club, theater, whatever I go
today I was like your audience tips really well I'm like yeah the gays and girls and days we tip
like we appreciate service workers we appreciate when you make us good cocktails and we show that
with our money I'm like these fucking straight people that come to your show to your to your
club I can't speak with them but the gays girls and days we spend money on goods on good service
well but also most of us are either like with child free or you know single so I have the same
audience women and gays right and that's right because people once they start having children
they're like well i have i need this money for that and they become more penurious with their
money and i feel like that's another reason not to have children so you could be a better tipper
yeah hell yeah chelsea oh my god i need i i need advice really quick so the work from my four years
in he wants children i i don't want children i don't not want children but i think i do i i do
not want children which means i shouldn't have them you know what i mean i'm too much on the
fence right to like want to have kids like i feel people who want kids should be like i want children
more than i want my next breath yeah i want to go to the pta i want to drive the car with the kid
like i am not that no no and you never will be i will never be that way right you're never going
to be like that so i think that's very good what you're saying is like you you don't desire it i
feel like if you're going to be a child you have to desire it so badly is it a deal breaker for
your partner to have kids i mean we you know what we did we didn't talk about deal breakers like at
the beginning we were kind of like yeah we'll get there and now we're four years in and it's like i
really want children i'm like well i don't know if i want children you know uh yeah i would try
and push that as long as you can to you know but conversely on the other side of the coin i do
believe that if you do have a child that is in brought into your life because your partner feels
so vehemently for it is so vehemently like passionate about having a baby you are going
to fucking love that baby it's not like you're gonna find you're gonna have a kid and be like
i don't like it that doesn't happen you know yes it does well it doesn't happen when somebody it
doesn't happen to people like us like i have children in my life and i fucking deal with it
i don't hate them i'm not mad at them i mean yeah i'm exhausted and i'd rather not have to deal with
like stupid shit but i'm always going to be available to a child and you're going to be the
same way it's just like the kind of people and culture like part of culture that we are like i
don't want one. And I hear what you're saying, but you're not going to ever, I don't know that
you're going to regret having a child, you know, if it's something that's so important, like you've
got a lot of love to give. And so, you know, like if I met a guy and he had some kids, I wouldn't
not date him. I would, but, and I would be like, oh, this is a nice opportunity for me to kind of
be a maternal figure or like a big sister kind of vibe. But it's not like I would be like, oh,
I want to, you know, if somebody said to me, I, I have to have children. It's like, well,
Obviously, that ship has sailed.
I think that's the best way to do it.
Meeting someone that has a kid sounds fucking great.
Because worst case scenario, I can press the eject button and be out.
You know what I mean?
But if I want to stay and mother this child, great.
But it's not of my own loins.
So I could, like, you know.
Right.
And most kids are really, you know, most kids are lovable.
You know, like, it's hard to find a kid that doesn't deserve love.
You've never met my nephew.
Yeah, well, I have a couple of nephews, too.
That's the thing about, like, I'm down to have a, if we do have a kid, great.
What if that motherfucker has the audacity to be straight?
Rude.
What if I had a straight young man in my house?
Some motherfucker walk around my house, scratching his balls, fucking his armpits and shit stink.
Like, now I have to raise a straight person?
That sounds awful.
You're raising an ally then in that situation.
True, true.
That's fair.
That's a great point.
You're raising an ally.
And then he turns against his father's when he grows up.
And he's like, I can't handle these two homos.
He's like, it's enough already with my house.
It's too gay.
Okay, we're going to take a break.
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and we're back with monae exchange she's on tour so you can buy tickets to her show
at monaeexchange.com are you ready to give some advice today monae yes yes yes she's always ready
to give advice excellent um well i do have a monae question to start out with uh this one's just an
email but hillary says this is hillary clinton yes it absolutely is dear chelsea i have a question
about how money changes relationships. I'm a 35-year-old woman who works as a child therapist
at a nonprofit, so I don't make much money for what I do. I grew up as an only child to a single
mother in a lower middle-class family, and I'm very used to living paycheck to paycheck. I lost
my mother as a teenager, and the only family I had left was my grandparents, who became my best
friends and the only emotional support system. Two years ago, however, they both passed pretty
quickly one after the other. It was a devastating blow and wrecked me pretty badly emotionally.
Now I just have my wife and young daughter as my only remaining family.
This is where things took an unexpected turn.
Upon their deaths, I received multiple requests from people I considered close friends asking for money.
They needed help with mortgage, medical bills, and other expenses.
At first, I was happy to help, all while trying to establish a boundary that these were simply loans.
To sum it up, I gave out about $18,000 before I realized what was happening.
I stopped giving out money, and needless to say, I haven't seen a cent of it back.
It's not about that, however.
I feel embarrassed, taken advantage of.
I'm shocked at how a few of them turned on me like that.
Even more recently, my HOA community just outright asked me to personally foot a $35,000
bill for something in our neighborhood because they knew I could with the inheritance from
our grandparents.
I don't know how they knew I don't speak to most of my neighbors.
I considered it for a long time before asking them to come up with another solution.
How do I trust the intentions of people going forward?
I've never had a lot of money before, and I certainly want to share it, but I'm realizing
now that certain people will use me for
it and not actually value me as a friend.
Thanks so much, Hillary.
Wait, I'm sorry. I missed this part.
Did the inheritance, was the inheritance,
how did everyone know about the inheritance?
Wasn't it public news?
Seriously, I don't know how the neighbors
knew. I don't even think she knows how the neighbors
knew, but her friends. The family.
Yeah, friends and family. Yeah, but still
like that's not an invitation to
ask for money. Can I just say when I open
up my DMs, how
many fucking dms i get asking me for money how many dms i get saying i'm going through a really
tough time i just got fired from my job we just need i just need thirty thousand dollars to tide
me over it's unreal venmo request if i open my venmo right now it's literally like hey girl hey
girl i need people find your venmo and they request you all day long for my i just can't
imagine asking a stranger for money i i at all i would love to like i mean i you know i want money
too my money's all out the window with this fucking house i don't have any more money to give
first of all you're gonna lose all your money don't ever advertise that you have money don't
advertise that just hold on to your money and save it because you're gonna need it for fucking
something and use it for yourself it's your inheritance and definitely you know how you
can tell if people are using you for money if that if they're asking you for it asking you for
money yeah like that you don't give your money away that's not there's they're not entitled to
that money that those are your grandparents period yeah girl even if they're even their
friends or family even their family that that money is not yours the inheritance went to you
however your your grandparent decided to give you that money and give it to whoever that's who it
belongs to it does not belong to your mom or your cousin or sister keisha whoever it is no one is
entitled to that money except for you and again if you found it in your heart you were so generous
you've already given eighteen thousand dollars to your friends and family that's it you have to set
a boundary like hey guys the bank is closed i am not willing to give any more of this money
and again if there's someone that has a really soft space in your family like a nephew that you
really love you really want to help them out with whatever then that's a different story but
to have this open door policy when family can just come and hit you up for money is dead it's done
no more and why is your community asking you to pay for the fucking road work
that's so ridiculous and also like there are going to be things that happen in your life where you
are going to be able to help somebody out of a really bad situation. And that person should be
somebody who's close to you and a friend or a lover or whatever, or a relative that you can
help your child that, you know, God forbid something happens and you need like all this
money. That's what you save that money for. You want to be nice and share the money. That's a
very nice sentiment, but donate to charities that you care about. Then donate to homelessness,
donate to food shelters, donate to children's charities, donate, you know, to like the LGBTQ
community for children who have been kicked out of their homes. There's a million places to give
your money to that you can actually track its use and track how it's being spent rather than just
giving it to individuals. This story is as old as time. It doesn't work out well when you hand
out money to people. One thing my parents taught me really early on through mistakes that they had
made was they're like, never loan money to friends, these larger amounts of money, because
A, they probably won't be in a position to pay it back. And then they feel awkward. But even if you
say yes and say it's a gift, then they still often feel awkward and you lose the friendship.
And then they become resentful of you in a sense, because it's like you help them and they're
embarrassed. And so then you lose that friendship anyway. That's happened to me 50 times where I've
given friends, here's 20 grand, you know, here you're in a bind. I actually saw somebody that
I loaned $20,000 to the other day. He's never paid me back. I, and he doesn't have to, it's fine.
But I saw him, he's never brought it up. This was years ago. He's never even brought it up.
He's fine. Like, and, and no one knows about it. It was like our secret. He was so embarrassed when
he came to me. He's like, I can't believe I have to ask you for this. And I was like, okay, yeah,
I guess, who else can you ask? I guess I'm the only person to give it to you. And he's never
even once said, hey, I don't even care about the money.
Just say I appreciate you doing that for me based on the fact we're not even.
A nice card.
Yes, something.
It's just kind of.
That's crazy.
You create a dynamic that is not good.
Acting like it never happened is wild.
So you guys go to like events, you've seen him out of place and it's just like, hey,
girl, how's, how's, how's, how's stuff doing?
I hadn't seen him in a long time.
And then I saw him the other day and he was just like, hey, how are you?
And I'm like, I'm great.
How are you?
and like I remember telling my friend I was like you know I once gave him she goes you did I go
yeah it was in a bind he's really close with someone I'm really close with and it was kind
of weird for him to come to me in the first place quite frankly but you know I have a big heart I
always want to be generous when I have excess I always do I really do but and I did but I just
like I'm like it's interesting that that person feels no obligation to address it ever again
like just take it and okay i guess we'll just forget that happened so one no is the answer
for these friends one way to kind of like get out of them blaming you is you could say oh you know
what it's they left it in a trust i don't really have access to it like that like that way it's
you're not saying no you just can't unless you want to see for me though i'm like because it's
really hard for me to like keep up with the lie like that's why i i'm a pretty straight shooter
i'll be like girl this the story's closed like i i wouldn't tell the lie because then it might it
might come up again and send it to someone like it's in the trust no it's not and i feel like
that might make it dodgy for me later on all you have to say is listen i've done this before it
doesn't work out well i wish i could share with you i wish i could give you this money but i've
loaned people money before or i've given away people money before and it's actually ruined
our relationship so i'm so sorry but i'm not doing that anymore yeah people need to and people need
to understand a boundary is a real fucking thing i like just set that boundary but like no girl
it's not happening i'll take it out to the dinner we can go out to the applebee's i'll get your
nice little chicken selects
a trio deal.
I won't be at the Applebee's,
but good luck with everything.
He'll take you on a cruise.
He'll take you to an Applebee's
that's actually on a cruise ship.
This is a virgin voyage.
Chelsea, you know,
I feel like you will like
a virgin voyage.
Anyway, moving along.
Moving on.
Well, our next question,
and this is a first for us
here on this show,
but I have a question
and Monet, this may be somebody that you are acquainted with. So I just want to preface with
that. They like cruises. Probably. So this question starts to your Chelsea. I've been a full-time drag
queen for 16 years. Drag has been such a blessing in my life and given me opportunities beyond my
wildest dreams. I became the first drag queen in history to perform on all seven continents. Yes,
even Antarctica, performed in 35 countries, was Grand Marshal of NYC Pride, ran for city council,
and was first drag queen to moderate a panel at the UN. So things have been good. However,
at 38 years old, I keep wanting to push myself and try new things to take it to the next level.
Challenging myself as a performer is really important to me. When I moved to NYC at 17
years old, it was to pursue a career in musical theater. I got signed to an agent last year to
continue this dream, but haven't been able to book anything. All my auditions get great feedback and
lots of, oh yeah, love them and their work, but no follow through with getting the job.
I've done a lot of different reality TV, but I want to do the real deal work as an actor,
comedian, and performer. What can I do to better help these goals and skills and get myself seen
as more than a drag queen? Not that I don't love that, but I want people to see me as a
more well-rounded performer who's versatile in what I'm able to do. Thank you, Marty Cummings.
I know Marty Bill Cummings. Marty, do you guys know each other?
I do know Marty for years.
Oh, my God.
Marty, this is our special guest.
Monet is our special guest today.
And look at these two.
They already know each other.
We've never had that happen before on this podcast.
I know.
Monet, call me back.
I will not.
Is that one of the people you auditioned for that you didn't hear back from?
Yeah, she will cast me, Monet.
Hello?
Monet, give Marty some advice.
Marty is one of the most talented entertainers in New York City
Marty is hilarious
Marty is a great host
Marty is a good singer
So, Marty, are you leading with the drag for these auditions?
Are you going with headshots and profiles of you in drag when you do these auditions?
So, my agent primarily sends me out on drag stuff
So, they'll send my drag headshot, my non-drag headshot
auditions normally are self-tapes like in drag whatever and the feedback it's always the same
feedback from the casting directors oh my god we love marty they're amazing we love we love we love
we love we love and then like i'll get a call back or whatever and then i don't get it and i'm like
okay girl you love me but run me my chat like hello do you audition as you marty straight
not straight but like it's you know what I mean I'm primarily straight I'm primarily sent out on
uh cast scenes for like drag roles and drag characters there are some so like it's after
Catherine and I talked I actually my agent emailed me that this big director emailed them and was
like we really want to see Marty for these two roles for his next film one is drag one is not
drag obviously if I book the drag one like yes I want it but I want to be challenged like I I want
to be challenged. I want to try something different. I want to show that I can do more
than drag. Right. And also drag is a very specific niche thing. It's not as widespread. It's not like
there's tons of drag movies out each year. So I would really focus in on going in as yourself
without being in drag also, in addition to auditioning for stuff in drag, because you're
probably going to find a lot more opportunities there. Yeah. And I was going to say, I think that
That needs to be the directive to your agent, to your manager.
Like, hey, guys, let's say for six months, do not send me any drag castings.
Do not send my drag headshots.
Like, only focus on Marty Cummings.
Do not put drag into it.
Like, I only want to focus on Marty Cummings, things for me out of drag, maybe some straight rolls.
We get really crazy.
Let's not get carried away, guys.
I'm sorry, ladies.
I'm so sorry.
I'm talented.
I'm not that talented.
Okay.
But, yeah, you should.
you should cast a wider net that's you're going to catch more fish that way that's just the way
it works like don't limit yourself to that you know like go where the opportunities are too
I wouldn't say you have to excise all of your like submissions to drag but I would say like
definitely be open to playing yourself without being in drag yeah I totally am and I think I
think Monet is right like I have to stress to my agents like hey like I love the drag stuff but
please look at other castings
for me also. I think it's
easy to get like, I don't want to say
pigeonholed, but it's easy to see somebody as one
thing.
And also have your agent
be saying those specific things
to casting directors and like
saying, you know, Marty has these other talents
and loves playing these, you know, quote unquote straight roles
sort of thing, you know, comedy, drama,
that sort of thing. I know Clayton
Ferris, who's like somebody I follow on TikTok,
he is an actor and like
kind of in the same vein went to his agent was like listen i really want to do a movie this year
and then he wound up being in weapons he's like the boyfriend of the principal
and he was like i just said it and like stuck to my guns about it and it happened you know so
i think having your agent expressing that to other people and because people do just want to like
go with the first thing they see which is like drag is more exciting than just like
yeah person so and i am not like a big i'm not a big intention person and i i manifest like i'm
not that girl but i do think because casting agents are so they're they are so stupid like
they can they can only see the thing that you're giving them so like you have like drag can even be
a part of it because once they know the drag is a thing they've already written off in their minds
like well no he can't play that role because he's a dragon over here so i think it's really being
intentional about like only giving them the marty cummings as opposed to marty cummings you know
what i mean yeah i mean i think that's like i was telling katherine like so many of these casting
they follow me they come to my shows they're like we love we love we love we love we love
and so i think in their mind it's like marty drag queen marty drag queen and i want like yeah so i
think like if my agent's sending tapes of me out of drag that will start putting in their mind like
oh marty is a like layered human being you know also maybe one thing this might be crazy but maybe
you need to have another like acting name like be like jake sanchez maybe not sanchez that may
and problematic be be somebody else be be tony tony smith i don't know like have like a different
pseudonym for your acting for out of for stuff that is not drag at all have you tried boofing
any of these directors that you're auditioning for we just covered i just learned about boofing
and i'm very excited oh my god hello marty marty things in your day i've seen you boof them
Wait, what's boofing?
What is it?
When you do something up your butthole.
A bump of something.
I boof to God.
Oh, I boof all the time.
Marty, that's going to be my name on the resume.
Boof?
Yeah, Marty Boof Boof.
That's cute.
That's got to bring to it.
I just broke a sweat.
Oh my God, talking about boofing.
Yeah, I would definitely be sweating
if somebody boofed something up in my tushy hole
without a forewarning.
but at least hopefully I would have
some sort of word
I have for sure
this is so crazy that you ended up
being one of the questions this is hilarious
I think you have your marching orders right Marty
yeah I have a call with my agent
tomorrow morning so I'll
get on it also sidebar
I went to Antarctica Catherine told me you're going you're gonna love
it penguin shit smells disgusting
okay great
I'll just snort a lot of ketamine
before I go there so I won't smell anything
Boof the ketamine.
Boof the ketamine.
Okay, boof the ketamine.
Okay, sorry.
So I'll just, yeah, then my asshole.
See, I've got to figure out which orifice to put what in.
It's so confusing now.
I'm so confused.
But thank you.
Thank you, Marty.
I appreciate your call.
Thank you, guys.
Bye.
Bye.
Thanks.
People also sometimes boof alcohol.
Because sometimes you're allergic to it going down in something in here.
Who's allergic to alcohol?
I don't know.
A lot of people are allergic.
A lot of people are allergic, especially in vodka.
People are allergic to vodka because of the weed.
And so the next move is to put it in your butt?
Girl, the gays.
But if you're allergic to something, then putting it in your body in any capacity has got to be bad.
I know.
But the gays will need their alcohol, Chelsea.
Okay, well, this doesn't sound like good advice.
Anyway, moving on, Catherine.
All right.
Well, our next caller is Megan.
And Megan says, today I'm writing to you for advice on an estranged father dynamic.
I had a very normal childhood until about high school when my father's mental health took a huge hit.
Turns out he had been sexually abused by a nun as a child, and about the time I hit fifth grade, my father went off the deep end.
He and my mom were separated off and on while I was a teen, with me confronting him over cheating with sex workers and then him destroying my mother financially in the divorce.
His family is full of addicts, criminals, and just all-around con men.
I have not had contact with my father in the last 15 years, despite him showing up at my workplaces, circling around my block, and just generally trying to make contact.
I've never felt emotionally safe around him.
Fast forward to this year when I've started to wonder if I will ever have contact and how I'll feel if he passes away.
I happened to Google him and found out he recently won an $11 million settlement in a personal injury lawsuit.
Time to contact him.
He's been living on disability, running scams, and working under the table to avoid paying off his debts,
including tens of thousands he owes my mom in the divorce and 18 years of child support he never paid for my half-sister.
My anger was palpable.
Him living in a $3 million mansion in Milwaukee, that's a dream home,
with a brand new sports car while I'm a struggling teacher
and my mom had to put off retirement because he cleared out her 401k in the divorce.
While I'm sitting here stewing on this information,
cosmically, he just apparently knew what I was thinking about
and sent me an email apologizing for, quote,
things he had done wrong and asking for contact again.
Do I meet with him?
Should we have contact with parents just because they're our parents
so we don't have regrets?
or should I maintain my boundaries for my own mental health?
This is the first time he's ever owned any wrongdoing or offered an apology,
but I also don't want it to seem like I'm suddenly returning because he has money now.
I have two small children that he has never met
and who I haven't even considered introducing him to.
I also feel like I might owe it to my mom and half-sister
to try and get them back the money they're owed.
I'd appreciate your thoughts on family boundaries and estrangement.
Thanks for all you do, Megan.
Hi, Megan.
Hi, how are you?
Hi.
This is our special guest, Monet X Change.
She's here today.
Hi, Monet. Nice to meet you.
So funny, Megan.
We just had a conversation with somebody who had come into A Lotta Bunny
and was starting to loan it out to people
and wondering what their boundaries should be about that
because all of these people started approaching them.
But this is a different situation because your father is trying to reach out to you
and you got an email that you hadn't gotten before.
My impetus, I'm of two schools of thought for this.
I would be motivated to reimburse your mother and your sister for the money that he never
neglected to pay them. That would be my motivation for, for connecting with your father. But he also
did apologize in this email, which you said is something he's never done before, right?
Never. Yeah. Okay. So this is the first apology he's made to you.
Absolutely. And how does that make you feel? Yeah, there's been years of no ownership,
no talking so angry but also angry for my mother um when i mentioned it to her her reaction like
i could just see the disappointment that he harmed her in so many ways and she didn't get any ounce
of an apology and he said that this stemmed from him he perseverates in this trial of the abuse
that happened to him and he had been rereading the trial and found a letter i wrote to the court
and he had like realized first time that i think he like recognized anything outside his own world
like in all of this, he's the victim in everything. And I think he just like for the first time was
starting to deal with it. And he's a lonely old man who doesn't have his family in his life. And
I think that's really hard and money doesn't solve your problems. So I think that was him reaching
out. I think that you, this is a great opportunity for you to say, Hey, listen, I know that you've
come into $11 million that you want to lawsuit. If you want to speak to me the way that you could
speak to me and to move forward in our relationship is to do right by my mom and do right
by my sister, and catalog all of the money that he didn't pay in child support and alimony.
Catalog all of that and reiterate what your mom had to do, how she had to not, I think
you said she didn't retire on time because she had to work, right?
Reiterate all of those things and say, this is the decent thing to do.
And if and when you do this, if you decide to do the right thing, then I would be willing
to talk to you.
I'm also going to add an asterisk to that because I have recently learned that in some
states, like this is state dependent, so you'll have to figure out what's, you know, with your
state. But in some states, the child support stuff never goes away. So if the authorities are let
know that he has this money, the money should just get like taken out of his account and literally
put into your mom's account. Like it depends on the state, like I said, but some of this money
might be able to be just transferred right over. We found out Wisconsin law doesn't get my sister
anything back. Her stepfather is a lawyer, so they looked into it. So she, there's a statute
limitations on it hers is gone um but my mother has consulted a lawyer and is now going to go
forward with it great yeah great awesome that's amazing yeah i think i i think that like yes he
is he seems to be in a different place where he's apologizing making moves to apologize and
and amend his wrongs but for me a big part of that is the atonement the reparations for the
wrongs you have done so until he's able to do that it's probably going to be really hard for me i'm
But I guess for you, Megan, probably virtually impossible to move on when you are not righting the wrongs that you did, which is giving us this money back.
Like, you have—you've spent all these years of caring for me and caring for my mother and all this stuff.
So he has to atone to make you want to feel like this relationship is repairable.
Because right now, it doesn't seem like it is.
And you come into $11 million in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
You could live off a million dollars for the next 20 centuries.
$11 million, you'll be just fine
if you give whatever he's owed to you,
your sister, and your mom
to move on and then y'all can build
a family dynamic hopefully again
or whatever that looks like
now that you're grown
and you're not a child anymore.
Whatever that wants to live for you.
And in regards to him being your father,
yes, he's your father,
but he's a fucking human being first.
So he needs to fix what he needs to do
so you guys can all move on
and build something nice, hopefully.
If you want that, Meg.
What do you think about this, Meg?
Yeah, that makes a ton of sense.
Okay.
Okay, good.
Let us know what happens.
I will.
Okay, cool.
We'll send him that email and, you know, catalog everything for him so he's not confused about anything.
And then, you know, the ball's in his court and he can decide.
And maybe increase the amounts for inflation.
Exactly.
Hello, Catherine.
Absolutely, girl.
And pain and suffering and whatever else you decide to throw in there.
We actually looked at it.
There's a clause in their divorce that he owes interest that was specifically written in.
So it actually comes out.
It's like with interest of 17 years, it comes out to be a lot more for my mom.
So hopefully she'll at the very least get that back.
Great.
Amazing.
Well, keep us posted, okay?
Yes, keep us posted.
Thanks, Meg.
Thank you.
I appreciate your time.
Katherine, I have to say, I listen to y'all's pod so often.
I just love your haircut.
It's gorgeous.
Thank you.
I was pink until very recently, and then I chopped it all off about six months ago.
So yeah, thank you.
I appreciate that.
Okay, so we'll take a break and come back and do a last...
Yeah, I've been a little quickie.
Okay, we'll be right back with Monet X Change.
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Okay, so our last question comes from Brayden,
and the subject line is,
my boyfriend won't shut the fuck up about his job. Dear Chelsea, my boyfriend and I have been
together for over two years and I love him very much. We have so much fun together when he gets
out of his head about work, but most of the time he won't shut the fuck up about his job and how
good he is at it. He loves his job and says so all the time. I'm so happy for him and proud of
his hard work and success, but it's not the only thing I want to talk about. It can also come off
as very braggadocious sometimes and I can't help but roll my eyes on the inside. We work in the
same industry, so part of me wonders if that's why I don't enjoy the conversation. I even try
to casually change the conversation sometimes, but still, work seems to be his favorite topic.
He is so preoccupied that even when we go out on dates, I can see he's in his head. When I ask
what he's thinking about, he replies, work, and then goes into detail. Sometimes he can't sleep
at night because he can't stop thinking about work. He acknowledges the fact that his brain
never stops working, so that's a positive step in the right direction, I suppose. He really is
very successful at his job and constantly
winning awards and acknowledgements. I'm so
proud of him and try to be supportive, but
I can't take this never-ending conversation
about work. Any words of wisdom
are greatly appreciated. I think you should just
read that letter to him.
I honestly think you should just read
that letter to him because you have
to be direct about it and you have to be like
nobody wants to hear about somebody's job
all day long. Nobody wants to hear about it.
Especially when you work in the same industry. No, exactly.
You've got to have a sense of self and also
So, you know, the ingredients to be a successful human being mean that you have to have more than one thing going on in your life.
Like, not just work.
It can't be one-dimensional like that.
You're in a relationship.
There's got to be other shit to talk about.
There's nothing I want to hear about all day long except for boofing.
Nothing else.
I mean, you and me both, sister.
I mean, now that I know about boofing, it's all I want to talk about.
And it's just so annoying to hear you just talk about your job all the time over and over and over again.
Like, at least, like, make me bring up something.
Like, let me give you props about your job.
I don't want to hear you bring it up all the time.
Let me be impressed by it.
And again, I know in this day and age where a lot of my straight girlfriends are dating guys that can't find a job and don't fucking work.
I know finding a dude that does have a job is very attractive.
But you're on the other end of the spectrum now.
He won't fucking shut up about it.
So, yeah, that seems like a lot.
Yeah, absolutely.
So, yeah.
Also, this to me a little bit smacks of like maybe do some testing and see if he's got like either ADHD or some OCD that he can't stop sort of like spiraling and like thinking about work.
that's a good idea yeah and maybe if not then just a little therapy so if he does have any of
those things you can boof him his adderall or you can boof him some vivance just shove the pills
right up his asshole if you have been listening to this episode everyone when you get off of this
episode i want you you're done listening to us please try putting something in your butt i'm
kidding i don't want everyone to try that but if you want to try it go for it but i'm not a doctor
and i'm also not a therapist you know i was listening to mel robbins's podcast the other
day and at the end of her podcast she goes
I am not a doctor there's a whole spiel
about her not being a doctor or a therapist
I'm like why don't we do that at the end of mine
we've got it in the description
oh okay great great great cause I was like
she's not even giving advice like I'm giving
advice she kind of just like you know
gives advice and posts it
anyway Monet
I love you you're so funny I love you
you're the best and I hope you have a great
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there and also Chelsea I want to come open
for you somewhere. I would love that. I would
love for us to spend a weekend, a romantic
boofing weekend
together in some, in a
very exotic locale like
Ohio. Oh my god, I'm glomming on to this.
Oh my god, can I tell you, I hate the state of Ohio.
What an awful place. Cleveland, Columbus,
uh, there, all of it
is awful. Cincinnati. You mean
all the places in Ohio?
Well, that's good to know. Hopefully you won't stop there on your tour
then. I know.
I avoid Ohio like the plague.
Okay, Monet, I will.
Please hit me up.
You have my phone number, so hit me up when you're back in L.A.
where I know that you live now.
You don't.
Chelsea, we're going to have the same conversation in about two months.
If I'm like, girl, I'm in New York where you're at, I'm like, I'm in L.A.
I'm in a rolling blackout of life.
Okay, I love you.
Thank you also for having me.
This was so fun.
Love you, too.
Have a great day.
Bye, Monet.
Bye.
Bye.
The word of the week is perseverate.
verb to intently focus one's attention on a thought or thoughts fixate used in a sentence
chelsea will continue to perseverate on boofing all week perseverate i just announced all my
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