Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Life is Goo with Rachel Bloom

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

Rachel Bloom joins Chelsea to explore why bodies are basically goop, how pregnancy made her fear for her dog’s mortality, and why she got married so young.  Then: A Texan is hesitant to be honest on the dating apps.  A dog lover mourns the loss of her soulmate.  And a wife is ready for her soon-to-be-ex to stop lying about their upcoming divorce.  * Order a signed copy of Chelsea’s new book HERE! * From this Episode: The Daily on Online Dating * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello. Hello. Good morning. Good morning. Are you in New York? I'm in Seattle. I'm in Seattle. My voice sounds fresh because of all the freshness that I've been up to. So I had a book signing here last night. I had the Oscars the night before. Big party situation. Yes. Was out till about four in the morning and then got up at eight o'clock or no,

ten o'clock to come to Seattle for my book signing here. The internet says that you're dating Ray Fiennes, which like... I saw that. I saw that. Seven-three and me is like, hell yeah, girl. Well, I'm not dating Mary Fiennes, but yes, I saw that. I had high hopes. I had high hopes. Yes. No, we just went from one party to another together.

That's simply what happened. That's so funny. But I did have a blast. I've had a blast all week. And it's been your birthday. Oh, yes, and I had a birthday party, too, on Friday night. No, Saturday night. Saturday night I had a birthday party. Saturday, I flew in from Chicago, went to my book signing at The Grove in LA.

Then I turned around and went back to the hotel I was staying at where I was having my birthday party Saturday night, which was also a blast. Very fun. And then I randomly ran into you at The Grove. Let me tell you how many signs there were that I didn't put two and two together. They had an Owl's Brew lemonade stand. And I was like, oh, that's Chelsea's. I did not think you were doing a signing.

And by the way, the Owl's Brew is delicious. I had the pink lemonade. I know, I know. All these girls that are coming in, you know, my book signings are primarily about 90% women, obviously. And they're all coming. And now we have the Owl's Brew at every book signing.

So that's been so fun because now people get the message that for their book clubs, they should be pounding Owl's Brew. It's very tart, very delicious. But yeah, that was so funny. And then somebody came up and said, who's doing a book signing here?

And the guy behind the counter said, Chelsea Handler. And I was like, oh, I know her. Yeah, I know. What a coinkydink. I know. I know. I'm like, I'm sure it was in there subliminally somewhere. But anyway, yes, we got to come say hi.

I made two little friends. And I was reunited with Doug for this way for the weekend, even though my bell started pulling her bullshit when she brought him over to my hotel room. She's like, it's OK, Doug. It's OK. Mommy's here. I'm like, I'm the mommy. Shut up.

I'm like, don't start this shit. shit with me again. Anyway, I'm on my way back to Los Angeles this morning and I am going to, you know, hit it, hit it hard for the next who knows how long. I can't even look at my schedule because it's too intimidating. No, no. I know. I keep asking your assistant for things and she says you're busy. Yeah. And I've also run into so many, so many of the people coming to my book signings love Dear Chelsea and are avid listeners. So that's always nice to meet our listeners in person. And I hope you guys are reaching out to each other through different groups and stuff so that you guys can connect through Dear Chelsea and read the books together. That's great.

Well, any dates that we want to hit? Vegas. I'm coming to Vegas March 21st, guys. That's my next show in Vegas, March 21st and then April 18th. And then I announced about five more dates and I announced all my European dates. So those are selling out. So if you're in Europe and you're listening to this and I'm coming to your city, go get your ticket because they're going. Excellent. And then also anyone who's listening who has bought my book, who has listened to my book, send us excerpts or you reading your favorite parts or circle your favorite parts because I've been reposting those and I love those. I love to see them. And yes, my book has now been out for almost six days. I'll have what she's having. Amazing. And I got a copy too now,

so I'm going to find out all your secrets. Wonderful. Well, there's, you know, as we know, there are no secrets with me. And I also want to mention that based on my video, my birthday videos, which we're all familiar with, hopefully, I am doing an actual ski run, bathing suit ski run on March 14th that everyone is invited to come and register for. That means you ski with me in your bathing suit down Tahoe in the Palisades. Palisades Tahoe, I should say. And it's, well, it's just going to be a blast. I mean, it's just going to be a recreation of my birthday video. And wait till you see the bathing suit they have me wearing. Very excited.

So our guest today, please welcome Rachel Bloom. Okay, we're here with, she's a comedian, she's a writer, and she's an actress. And you know her best, probably, as the creator and star of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, everyone's favorite show. And she has a new special. Everyone is a very, please go on. Listen, we're just being inclusive. It's very inclusive of a very small part of the population. That's not true.

That's not true. That was a very hugely popular show. Popular's an interesting, sure, yes, it was. It was. It absolutely was. It was. I think you need to embrace that. Her new special is called Death.

Let me do my special. It's on Netflix right now. Please welcome Rachel Bloom. Rachel Bloom. Hi. Hi. How are you? I'm good.

It's always really nice to see you. Always. I love seeing you. You're just a really kind person. Thank you. I was just telling, actually, our nanny was like, oh my God, I love, she's such a fan of yours. And I was like, also, she's really nice and kind to other women, which is just really

wonderful. Thank you. Now I have to start being that way to men, which is like, oh. Well, no. Well, they're fine. That's a different thing. I know. They can be nice to each other or whatever they are.

You know, it's not really our problem. Let's talk about your special. Death is a big character in your special. He is. And I. He is. He is. Well, I modeled kind of the sum of the character based off of, like, men I've interacted with

in, like, writer's rooms. And so Death to me is a he. Yes. I like that. Yes. I'd like to start thinking of it that way as well. And I'm sure many of our listeners feel the same exact way. And not just that he like a dude bro.

Yeah, it was always like either. I mean, there were different ways we experimented with the character that like there was a part of him that was incel-y. And then there was a part of him that was just like a dude bro. Because like, look, hostility from comedians comes in different forms. But either way, it's when I'm saying bad things to myself, what is my inner voice? And my inner voice is the men who I perceived as funny or being like, that's a fucking joke. Okay, I guess you could technically call that a joke. That's my inner hateful voice, are those guys.

Is being judged by those guys. Being judged by those guys and them seeing that I am a fraud. Honestly, I mean, it's like, I still have, after all these years, a little bit of imposter syndrome of like, I'm very sensitive, and my first writer's room and experiences I had around that time was like, there would be these guys who just got really, really tough and smart, and they were great joke writers but comedy was a way to assert dominance over other people you know and and I've just I've never been good at like being insulted and coming back with an insult

I'm also not a club comic so that's the thing is I didn't get I haven't been hardened by I've always been like an alt comic UCB TV writer so I haven't been hardened by like drunk people in clubs throwing beers at me in a way that might have made me tougher and better at like insults and comebacks that's interesting i mean i would think that because you're assembling lots of different writers rooms because you've had multiple shows i've only had i've only had one so far really yeah well you have a new show that you just announced it's a pilot but but it but it makes me look really good yeah well i feel like you need to believe that you are good because i'm sorry i'm i'm underplaying things and i don't know why you're right but what was there before crazy

ex-girlfriend you were doing something that was i was a tv writer and i was like auditioning and i was doing shows at ucb were you a star in something or on tv no i was doing youtube videos oh is that how i got to know you it was something before crazy ex-girlfriend it was my youtube i was doing like youtube oh okay okay so that's how i got to know you but i want to assemble i have a couple of tv things in the works where i i would love to be able to assemble another writer's room I love being in a writer's room and I love to have another show I have a couple shows like

in the works it's always funny what we decide to like announce and not announce because everyone you know like everyone is working on if our careers were judged by effort everyone would be number one on IMDB right everyone has like

a thousand things going on it's just okay are you then fortunate to get to that next level and have it actually like for lack of a better term count right because it doesn't and I also conversely the stuff is true like sometimes when you announce certain things you know that that aren't necessarily a sure thing it's like oh we're gonna announce you know I don't like the announcements of things I like just putting things out there you know like no me too me too and this like like the show we just announced so my husband

and I have a show with ABC congratulations on getting a husband by the way I so I it's so funny because I was just listening to your interview with Sharon Horgan who I just have been obsessed i love her so much another just brilliant and also kind person and actually catastrophe it made me realize i want to re-watch catastrophe for the show that i'm doing right now um the fuck was i gonna oh oh you're talking about divorce and i i am so you know for all of my like i'm fucking crazy and i talk about my asshole and dicks i've i've been with the same guy those are the two wildest things i've been with the same guy for about 16 years wow i'm a child bride wow very 16 years how old were you when you met him we were friends

since i was 18 in the comedy community because the comedy community is you know incestuous and then we started dating when i was 21 so you were only friends for the first few years i mean we met at once and then what happened that what happened that you guys got together well i dated a bunch of his friends uh that's always a good way to get his attention yes and then we just realized we really liked being together and one day we just kissed I mean it was actually really I was in LA I I was born and raised in LA and so I was back visiting my parents during college before I did a theater trip to Amsterdam and he was here for business because he was already a working tv writer and he invited me to this barbecue at this place he was renting in Santa

Monica and we like made out on the beach and like it was magical and I went to Amsterdam and came back and we started dating for real and we've just been together ever since that's cute it's really square i would have never my emotions around love were so volatile and the people i went for were so fucking weird before him i would have never thought that i would be this person in a monogamous relationship for so long but i here i am why do you think why were you why was your relationship with other men like so volatile or why were you attracted to those types of men i I mean, I did the same thing, but I'm curious. I liked the thrill of the chase.

And I liked, I mean, if I'm going to get like psychological about it, I liked the feeling of the thrill of the chase. It was the greatest drug. Love was the, my first serious crush started when I was in about third grade. And I remember the emotions that I have. It's my friend, Zach. He knows all about it. The emotions that I had for Zach from third through seventh grade were as real.

and when i say real they were as passionate and all-consuming as anything i ever felt as an adult from a very young age and there's a term because on crazy ex-girlfriend it was a show kind of all about obsessive love and so there's this term called limerence which is like the sign have you heard of this term i love it i love it it's like the scientific term for obsession and it's what being in love is and i'm a very i was always a very limerent person and so i would go from guy to guy who was like emotionally unavailable and also like i feel like i went for i i feel like i still like my type you know you hear you like go for people who are like your parents i have two types i have one type who kind of looks like a male version of my mom so like very very

lanky and skinny and then there's a type that's the male version of my dad which is like stocky and funny and that's the guy i'm with right now but like really if you broke them down it's either i go for my mom or i go for my that's funny because people don't talk a lot or enough i guess about going for your mom because that's got to be a thing too yeah psychosomatically like there's got to be something where you are drawn to the people who remind you of your mother it's the first love of your parents are the first love of your life and i see it my daughter now where she this is when she was like two she noticed our wedding rings and she said oh are you what are those we said they're wedding rings and she's like what's that we're married because we love each

other and she goes i love you i love mama i want to marry mama and i and i get it and i was like really flattered and I was like hopefully the laws will change no I didn't say that but I get it like hopefully the laws will go back 150 years yes yes it is weird having a kid because it is being in almost platonic love like I can't yes it's really hard to explain but I get that feeling of like oh I want to marry like I want to be with you forever yeah it's just the feeling of like you just like want to be around that person and I feel like we all kind of have that a little bit dna wise with our parents maybe but anyway so the other thing i've learned about limerence which i find really interesting so is it just the act of being in love or isn't there another

definite there's it's kind of a more it's what's happening to your body i was gonna look it up because i want to read it to our listeners because this word keeps coming up i was on vacation with my british girlfriend and she was used and she used that word and i was like oh yes i remember hearing it and being like i was fascinated by this word because it kind of has a broader meaning but So it's the state of being infatuated or obsessed with another person, typically experienced involuntarily and characterized by a strong desire for reciprocation of one's feelings, but not primarily for a sexual relationship. Yes. Okay. Oh, that's interesting.

It's like in love platonically, like you said. I mean, for me, in limerence, other than like child platonic love is the only child platonic love. Child marriage is limerence. limerence to be clear i'm not in limerence with my child um but yeah that's interesting that it says like it's platonic that it's um i mean for me that wasn't necessarily the the case because i'm so fucking straight but the interesting thing is like when you look at what's happening to you yourself chemically and the woman who studied this was named helen fisher and she just recently died but she studied being in love and they they basically scanned people's brains while they were

in limerence and what they found was a couple things and i might be butchering this so sorry for any love scientists out there um i believe that when you're in love your serotonin plummets which is like your well-being chemical which also i have generalized anxiety disorder i already have low serotonin that's what prozac does it helps my neurons transfer serotonin so before i was on prozac i already have low ass serotonin suddenly i fall in love whatever serotonin is left is fucking gone and that's like your well-being okay I'm good I'm I'm happy right now right so that's fucking gone when you think of this person they flood you with dopamine which is like already addictive but if you have no serotonin you need that person in order to feel good and so it's

close to like being on cocaine or like OCD which I've also experienced and so that kind of obsessive mind that involuntary obsession of feeling like your brain is being hacked by a dark love force is how I really lived a lot of my life and I think it took a lot of learning from those toxic relationships and sometimes unreciprocated situations to really make me I don't know like find myself in a really healthy but wonderful relationship and And I fell in love with him still, but luckily I fell in love with a healthy person. In a healthy way. Well, that tracks.

I mean, most of us when we're younger, you know, go after the wrong things. Like we're not focused on what we want. We're focused on the way we feel. Yeah. And as we mature, I mean, it doesn't sound like you were that old, but you seem to have a good grasp on, you know, what you wanted. and because knowing someone for several years actually is a big benefit to understanding somebody and making a educated, responsible, lie down, responsible decision. In your special, you talk a lot about your fear of losing your dog when you were pregnant, which I find so

funny. Why were you, because your dog was old? Is that why you thought he was going to die? Yeah. And she's a, she now just turned what we think she turned 15. She's a rescue. So we don't know i was just with her uh this morning it made life and death it made the cycle of life and death very real to me and and i'd had little existential crises i'm taking off my shoes i'd had little existential socks off too i have some toe spacers do you want to put them on i don't need it seems like you might want to put on toe spacers when you're not getting a pedicure uh they're they're not those kinds of toe spacers i have the start of what is a little bunionette and so in order i'm calling it that to make it sound more delicate than what it is i love it and you put on these

really well mine are black so they're not you know and you put them in between your toes so that so when your toes get a bunion they start to your foot starts to narrow and you want to keep your toes spread out so i put them on to keep my toes out so that my foot it is working it's fucking working my my cousin said to me the other day don't wear those they're so stupid and you've never even spoken to a doctor about it i'm like i am a doctor and they are working my toes are starting to spread out so i think everything's going to be fine for my bunionette let me see your feet they're very nice yeah my very narrow feet dry yeah but whose aren't yeah i always yeah what is that because we're walking on them yeah that's what it is you're right or in my case

rollerblading to every meeting i have oh my that's so fucking cool i know thank you so what what yes so it made life and death real it there was something first of all like when i was pregnant I was really nauseous for the first four months and and it made me depressed and I and it's like a chicken or egg thing where like I can't tell if I was depressed because I was nauseous or if I was depressed anyway but I would have these waves of nausea and with the nausea came emotions and kind of an anxiety and depression because it's just your hormones are going fucking nuts and there was something that happened where time, I may say it in a special, but like time basically became very real. That suddenly I was picturing, I was not only looking at these apps that was like,

okay, your baby's three weeks, five weeks, you know, 10 weeks, 15 weeks, whatever. But also I was, you know, you start to think about preschools and then you start to go, okay, well, what, what public school district I'm in? And you start thinking about your life in a concrete way that you you don't otherwise do and i think that being in entertainment and comedy kind of flattens out age in a real way like i never really know how old anyone is because everyone kind of seems anyway i don't know it it it keeps people young yeah that's true it really does and so it was one of the first times in life that i really started to think about grown-up grown-up stuff stuff in the future in that concrete way of like what school is she going to go to how are we going

to save for college and it suddenly put time and and everything to do with time it made it it made it like too real it felt like i was suddenly on mushrooms and then i just thought about my dog because at a certain point picturing my dog at age five at age six seven eight a certain point the dog's not going to be there and it just made me so sad yeah i can imagine it just made me think like what if children were only here for a short period of time like that's what I just started thinking about when you started saying that about dogs like what if we only had children for 10 or 15 years I mean can you imagine they would that would make the dog thing seem so easy I don't have an end-of-life thing with my dogs like I accept it because they're all rescues I always

get them halfway through their life anyway or in Doug's case my most recent acquisition he was nine months and that's the youngest dog I've ever gotten so that's just a huge advantage for me because I know I'm going to get a good 10 years out of him, you know? But whenever my dogs have left, it's interesting that you talk about that because, you know, obviously I've never had a full-term pregnancy, but to think about the thoughts that you would have about death when you're about to give birth.

Because I find that those two things dovetail quite often in lives. Like you lose a father or a loved one right before somebody has a baby. That always seems to be a very common occurrence. And so I could see why it would bring up all those thoughts. Yeah, I mean, it's primal. It's bloody. it's it's all it's first breath last breath we're all just we all just come from like goo and muck and come and come like it's all i was in atlanta because everything films in atlanta my husband was

doing something in atlanta and i was walking around and there was like a kind of swampy place that was teeming with life and it also stunk and i was like this is life life is just stinky goo and the stinkier and gooier the more it's filled with all sorts of life and that's what life is right we're all just like stinky piles of goo and so giving birth is a stinky pile of goo and then and then also like you know carrying you know when you're pregnant the stuff that starts coming out of your vagina and i mean the smells like your vagina starts smelling and it's just but that's it's life you know and like when you're ovulating like they're have you ever looked at like pictures of cervixes i actually have seen it's really interesting right that like i mean i don't know

if i could pick one out of a lineup but i i have seen them yeah they're like it's like they look like little wet buttholes as opposed to a dry butthole as opposed to a dry don't want a little dry butthole uh they're like free pink but what's interesting is when a person with the cervix is like fertile it's like covered in gunk it's like gooey it's like meant to be gooey and when it's like dry it's just past your period when like you're not meant to take in sperm and so like it's all just like blood and goo and death and i think there's a line oh summer and smoke i think it's a tennessee williams the tennessee williams play the lead of that show is is studying to be a medical student and he's saying to the other to the woman in the show alma he's saying like he's

pulling down an anatomy picture and he's like this is what we are we're and I'm paraphrasing but he's like we're just meat we're just gunk we're we're just disgusting on the inside and that's like that's what pregnancy really mired me in and then I actually gave birth and saw I mean I'll never forget like looking across the way there's like a giant mirror in the room where gave birth and seeing the sight of like after i gave birth my open vagina with the placenta at the surface and still seeing a little bit of the umbilical cord coming out of that i remember what that looked like it's gross it's fucking weird it's but it's life my cousin just gave birth and her asshole was inside out when she got done giving birth like inside out and my cousin

other cousin was describing it to me and i'm like i just can't picture exactly what that looks like and she's like don't worry about it but like her vagina lips her inside of her vagina just on the table lying there and it's like oh my god it's so treacherous to even think about oh i've only had one but my vagina are you gonna have more babies i think i'm just one and done but i i know there's a sea monster aesthetic with my vagina now like a sea monster there's like a there's like a little bit of prolapse with it where like if you look at my vagina it's like it just looks like someone going that's what it is and i've asked i asked dr like is normal she's like you're fine it's just yeah you pushed a huge thing out of your vagina so it's just like so back to male comics speaking

of so what is your experience so when you're doing stick because you're doing stand-up now i mean obviously you're special you're doing stand-up how has your experience been dealing with men in the stand-up world really i i think that they're a lot nicer i i think generally the culture's gotten a lot nicer and also i'm coming into these spaces now with some acclaim right which changes how people treat you like it's i don't even know if the way i've interacted with certain toxic people is gendered i think it's some people are just shitty to everyone like i can't really parse out how much of it is because i'm a girl and how much of it is just because i was you know when you're low on the totem pole and you're clearly insecure you're just an easy

punching bag so now if I come into a comedy space I have there's a certain amount of power that I have and maybe it's that I carry myself with more confidence or it's just people people aren't as mean yeah I think that's an important thing to recognize as a woman like for everyone who's listening who people call in all the time asking like how do you get confident or how do you you know I always want to inject everybody with confidence because it is true like sometimes you do have to fake it because you can smell insecurity on people and that's not a quality that you want to be putting forward so even if you have to fake being confident whatever you think that might be or if you're mimicking someone else you know that's confident like that

is a worthwhile endeavor because I do believe in faking it until you make it I do believe that if you act the part like you know I pretended I was wealthy and successful long before I was I was waiting tables and taking people out to dinner like I've got the tab they're like you're a waitress I'm like oh don't worry I've got money coming like I believed that about myself and it turned out to be true and I really do believe in faking it until you make it I do believe it in all areas not just confidence and not just career but in all areas like I'm gonna have a successful relationship a romantic relationship if that's what you want you have to act like that's what's going to happen I guess what I wish I'd tried doing with some of these guys early in my career

was I wish I would have been like hey can we get lunch and then just at lunch and this is a very female thing been like I think you're so funny like just I'd love to talk to you more about it and because that way then they can't bully someone or maybe they still can who like took them out to lunch and was like yeah you know I'm still learning like anything any help it's a very indirect female way to deal with a problem but like I wish I'd tried killing them with kindness more just to see what would have happened I mean it's interesting to think about that but again I feel like that's like, that's us having to give them and to assuage their ego to make them like us. And it's like, fuck you. I get what you're saying. But I also am like, no, no, no, I'm not

going out of my way. I deserve as much as respect as anyone standing here, even before I was successful, just because just because it takes so much guts to do what we do. You know, you have to be brave. It's already you're already dealing with a live audience. Now I need people behind the scenes being assholes too so on stage i have that courage that you're talking about where there's something that happens when i'm on stage that i'm like yeah i i fucking belong here off stage i don't i'm wildly more sensitive yeah it's just like who i am and it's something i'm actively still working on well because i don't think you can change the fact that you're sensitive but you can change your reaction to your sensitivity yeah right yeah what i'm working

on too is beating myself up less for being sensitive because if not because that's what's bad as when you're sensitive and then you go why the fuck are you letting this bother you you're such a you're such a fucking idiot now you're sensitive and you're calling yourself a fucking idiot of course you know it's like internet comments being the best example of like don't read internet comments and it's like well great now i'm telling myself don't read internet comments and i feel sensitive so it's like berating yourself doesn't help no it does not help you have to be talking very positively to yourself we all do yeah especially now you know during this kind of period of time we're all living in where we don't know what the fuck the world is going to

come to at least the world that we knew you know we grew up in america we thought like democracy is a thing that is indestructible and now we're like oh my god if any of these people you know like these cabinet pigs go through what happens to the fbi what happens to all of our you know government agencies and you're you're like what i know to be true might not be true at all or might not be true for very much longer i mean when remember when the biggest news was the president got a blowjob and stuck a cigar up someone's yeah Pikachu yeah I remember that was the biggest news that's how I found out what blowjobs were I all I remember thinking about that was I remember when that story came out and I thought now because every father knows their daughter is

being sexually active but they're not thinking about it they they're they're putting it to the back of their mind they're like I don't want to think about and I'm certainly not going to envision my daughter sucking someone's dick and then poor monica lewinsky's father knew for sure that his daughter was giving a blow job and knew that about the cigar like i could not get that out of my head i think the first time i met monica no i think i knew i was smart enough not to tell her that anyway she's coming on the podcast soon we can talk to her i'm such a fan also my dad went i don't know if it was law school he knew someone involved in the case at the time and at the time i was like 11 and i'd met the guy like a couple times before i think he was really close

with my dad when i was younger and he said something to my dad like you know i was very close with monica's family and obviously if anything like this were to ever happen with rachel i'd help out my dad was like oh my my 11 year old so if my 11 are you saying if my 11 year old daughter ever sucks the president's cock. I don't know why I know this story, but it's been something I've wanted to talk to Monica about. I want to tell something that Monica said to me. We were at a friend's house the other night and Monica was there and she said this, and I think she wouldn't mind me sharing this. She said when she had the opportunity to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016, not only did she take it, but after she voted for her,

she started to make plans to move to England because she knew that this wasn't going to be a great place for her to live with Hillary Clinton as the president. Not that Hillary Clinton was threatening her in any way, but just societally speaking, being the woman that did that in such a public way. And now Hillary Clinton was the president of the United States. She just thought she would be safer in the UK and at the same time cast her ballot for Hillary Clinton. And I got goosebumps when she told me that because I was like, wow, what a fucking predicament you know what a thing to have to do and a thing to have to consider on that note we're going to take a break and we're going to be right back with rachel bloom

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus, or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle, I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be

a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back with Rachel Bloom. We are back and we're going to take some callers and some emails we're giving advice yes okay are you ready yeah all right we'll start with an email uh this comes from jen jen says dear chelsea long-time listener first-time writer my husband and i both in our mid-40s have been married for 10 years we have one son together and he has a son from a previous relationship so two kids we have started the divorce process and hope for it to be final

in the spring we haven't told the kids and we'll wait until we know what's happening with the house etc. We're still living under one roof and are mostly cordial. It's never been a real outwardly affectionate relationship, so not many changes there. Here's the deal. My soon-to-be ex has not told his parents. They're in their 80s and his dad is not doing so great, but okay enough that he's still at home with his wife as his primary caregiver. They live close enough to us that their family gathers on short notice about once a week. I've been able to avoid these gatherings or stop by for a couple of minutes with an excuse to get out of there. Our anniversary, gross was a couple of weeks ago this past weekend and my soon-to-be ex asked if i would stop by

their house so they could give us an anniversary card i declined my issue is that i'm starting to look like an asshole because their son is lying to them my soon-to-be ex says he's not telling them because of their health conditions my friend and family circle know the details of what is going on as i don't lie to those that i'm close with am i wrong for declining all of the family interaction do i go along with this lie what sort of family acts like this love your show jen boy you go first that's a really unfair situation to be put in absolutely i don't know how sick his parents are like there's a part of me that's like is there a different lie you could tell so that that doesn't involve you because like you can't control that he's lying but what

you can't control is like i'm not participating so can he say that you're going through a mental health thing and he doesn't want to discuss it but you'll be a little i don't know the victim of that lie no you're right you're right i i mean i guess he look the solution is just fucking tell his parents well also i would just this is another mel robbins let them let him let him lie all he wants but do not participate in his lying fuck off like they're your ex-in-laws now like people are sick all the time also by the way like yes i was gonna i was gonna say the same thing how sick are they but also that's not your problem your marriage is ending you need closure everyone needs to know about it they're gonna find out they're gonna find out and you don't

want to be an asshole for participating in the lie you know so i would say extricate yourself from that and let him tell them and say you're not doing anything anymore with them and if they think you're or if he doesn't if he's still lying and they just think you're a bitch then like okay they're not your in-laws anymore or you can also say hey if you don't tell them i will but then that puts the onus on you and you don't need that kind of onus to have to tell them because what if he doesn't tell them and then you do have to tell them you can threaten to do that and then when he doesn't tell them just you know just i don't know hopefully her kids know right no the kids don't know because they're waiting to see what happens with the house i feel like that might be

the turning point here that's when you can start being like fuck it if the kids know but there's no obligation to participate in seeing his parents all the time just stop that just say you're not yeah whatever like whatever you need to say but you also don't have to lie for other people and i'm sick of people wanting you to participate in their lives i mean at some point the parents are gonna be like do we do something wrong that you're not coming over and at that point it's like we're getting a divorce yeah but it's not not tell you it's not your problem unless they call her specifically and that at which point she could be like yeah we're getting divorced exactly right i thought he told you but if they just think you're an asshole that's not your problem yeah yeah you

won't be dealing with them for very long anyway if you're getting divorced yeah i would have assumed your son would have told you i think is that is the line after like oh no we're problem solved There you go. All right. Well, our next caller, Maya writes, Dear Chelsea, I probably don't need to explain why dating as an Israeli American has been daunting and scary this year. I barely identify as Jewish. My mom has to tell me when all the holidays are and to show up for dinner. But your nationality, of course, is something that's hard to hide. Before this year, my dual nationality was something I was more than happy to share up front because it's a core part of my upbringing. But now I feel like I have to hide it because who knows who is on the other side of

these dating apps. I'm a bleeding liberal too, so it's a higher chance that the like-minded liberals I'm seeking are also anti-Israel. I'm fully American passing since I grew up in the US, so I can of course just not mention it when chatting in an app, but honestly, it's such an emotional issue for people right now. I do not want to be the recipient of someone's misdirected rage. Dating is already brutal enough, and this has tipped me over the edge toward just giving up. I have tried putting the Jewish filter on the apps, but I live in Texas, so after swiping through the five Jewish men I see no one is left. There also isn't a Jewish organization I've been able to find to meet people in real life that's not religious. I'm agnostic. I'm really happy on

my own and live close to family and great friends so moving for the sake of dating really is of no interest to me. I don't at all feel desperate for a relationship but I do want to find my person and it doesn't seem like the geopolitical circumstances are going to change anytime soon. I guess the gist of my question is if I don't want to shut myself off to a wider pool of non-Jewish men in an already challenging dating world. How can I approach dating in an open and optimistic way that still preserves my emotional safety instead of out of fear? Any advice? Maybe you're one straight single agnostic Jewish man or his sisters are listening. Maya. Well, hopefully they are listening. Hi, Maya. Hi. Hi. This is our special guest. Rachel Bloom is here today.

Awesome. Hi. Hi. You've got Jews in the house. So what dating apps are you on? I've kind of well currently I'm not super active but usually whenever I join it's hinge and do you like present yourself as Israeli you don't you're just no I used to you know pre last year and now it's just kind of I don't know it's such a polarizing topic that I don't know I feel like it will automatically turn a lot of people away absolutely like I don't think it's it's worth advertising you know what I mean you don't have to be like I'm Israeli because it almost sounds like you're only like you know it makes you yeah making a political statement also and it also centers your identity in a way that like might not be relevant to to who you actually you're

dating life at all for sure it's like if i put on a dating profile like i am of ukrainian descent okay like what i mean what yeah yeah like i grew up in the states and so it's like sure i you know i have family there and i speak hebrew but it's not my current identity i would say and have you experience men being like once they find out that you're israeli that they don't they don't want to date you um no but i also honestly have just been kind of nervous to go on the apps this year i've just been actively avoiding it i did i did join hinge last month for like a week i chatted with a few people didn't mention anything set up a few dates and then i just ended up canceling them all because just the thought of i don't know it made me anxious i know but i don't think you

should catastrophize the situation because a that is not a boiling point for every single person in this world it's it's shameful that people are blaming anyone who's from israel for israel's policies and listen this conversation is an unwinnable conversation because they're this has been going on for eons and eons you can't help who you are like regardless of where anyone stands like this is literally just who you are like and that many people in this world have no have no interest in that at all the palestinian gaza you know the gaza conflict and israeli gaza conflict many people don't even care about that they don't understand it they don't want to get involved you know i know we're dealing with this like movement that that everyone you know that

we're experiencing since october 7th but that doesn't that's not inclusive of the whole world So I feel like you're projecting your worst fears onto your dating situation when it's not necessary to do that. If you go on a date with a guy and you go out with him a couple of times, you're going to get a sense of who he is and what he stands for and if that's going to be something that he's staunchly against. And I would venture to guess that it won't be like it's you're not going to be only running into people that are pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel. Even though you're in Texas, there are still plenty of people who are not engaged in that conflict, who are not paying attention to that conflict. We're living in America. You know what I mean? There are a million things going on that people are interested in and many people are not interested in politics. So I think you have to reframe the way that you're like looking into things. You don't need to represent yourself on the dating apps that way.

I think what you need to do is be a little bit more open-minded and try not to come from this place of fear and try to be like, you know, someone meets you three or four times and gets to know you. Even if they do have strong feelings about that, they're going to go, oh, well, wait, here's a perfect example of someone who's from Israel who is not, you know, whatever your position is, like you're not a threat to that person. you don't have completely opposing views to that person, you probably would find that out sooner than three or four dates before you even reveal your personal life. And I feel like religion is

personal. And you're not even very religious. You said you're kind of agnostic, right? Yeah. I mean, I'm an agnostic Jew, too. I relate to Jews. Absolutely. I was raised that way. And I'm very proud to be a Jewish person. But that doesn't preclude me from interacting with people who have different mindsets and so give yourself a little bit more like wiggle room in the dating area you're gonna know someone and get to know someone a little bit before you even have to make that kind of decision or call as a fear-based Jew atheist Jew two suggestions and questions one have you considered j-swipe or does it suck I've never actually heard of that me neither what's j-swipe okay so this is I've been with my husband for 16 years so I never internet dated

so this is mom coming in j swipe is what i believe what j date now is and it's its own app if you're worried about because i get it like you're worried about just like someone coming at you for something you truly can't change about yourself so i wonder i just wonder about i've heard different things about j swipe again i apologize if i'm maybe i'm saying an app that is already defunct because i've never online dated but the other thing is see if j swipe is the other thing is because I'm fully like an atheist but I don't know how much you've checked out local temples and like Jewish organizations but like and maybe this is like an LA thing but there are some reform places that are like the god is optional this is much more about the culture that I wonder if you

did a little bit of poking around and digging because there are certainly places like that in la where you can fully like be an atheist and it's cool like it's part of the culture of that place and i wonder i don't know what city you're at in texas but there are definitely places and jewish spaces to go to that aren't just like well if you know it's all about god yeah i think you know like you said you're atheist i'm agnostic it i think it is i've avoided that kind of thing because to me, that is very religious centered. But you know, I don't know, I think there's one synagogue here. So yeah, but I mean, have you done research online and looked for any sort of like Jewish community stuff or Jewish dating stuff? Because listen, you're not like you're not the

only Jewish person in Texas. And I guarantee you, there are other people who are feeling the way that you're feeling that want to be congregating like with each other or dating with each other and mixing with each other. And it doesn't have to be religious based. I'm a reformed Jew, Like I was raised like that. And that's like, you know, it's just like the bare minimum of being a Jew. And it's very casual. You know, it's not like religious folk. It is culture focused. It's not as religious as like being a conservative or an Orthodox Jewish person. And I understand that it can feel ostracizing, but I wouldn't give up hope that there are more communities that you just don't know about yet where you are. I bet you there's a JCC not too far. I mean, I don't know where you're at in Texas, but, like, a place like that, that it's a Jewish community center that's so...

I mean, I live in the most, like, liberal, agnostic place ever, so I'm surrounded by, like, Jewish spaces that are very much, like, God-optional. But I feel like if you looked, if you did a little poking, even on, like, Reddit, maybe, I bet there are some spaces where...

Because, like, it's so Jewish to be agnostic. like that's like a very like that's the trick is you say to any rabbi i'm an atheist they go well that's very jewish uh so i feel like there have got to be pockets uh and also i mean side note my cousin used to be a rabbi in texas so i could on the dl ask him for tips oh that's a good idea yeah yeah i could text him right after this and then just separately reach out to you and see what he says oh i'd love that thank you yeah yeah and i love expanding your your area doesn't necessarily mean you have to move like you could have like kind of a long distance fun like flingy thing or you know somebody that you visit here and there and that's great or maybe somebody wants to

move to where you are if it gets serious enough you know yeah expanding your area is good too I do like that idea because I'm a big advocate of long distance relationships I think those are more fun anyway than having somebody up your ass all day long every day it gives you something to look forward to and it gives you someone to communicate with and sexed with and flirt with and all that fun stuff, you know, that beginning period of a relationship is the most fun part of the relationship where you're constantly talking on the phone, making plans to see each other like that is fun. And long distance extends that. Yes, it does. It does extend that. Yeah. Also, I wanted to say J Swipe Israel is the number one Jewish dating app. Oh, my God. Look at Rachel

Bloom on that with your finger on the pulse of all Jews. I will look into that immediately after. Yeah. And just also just really in your head, don't catastrophize the fact that you're from Israel and that you're that you're Jewish. That's OK. That's OK. And most people who are reasonable will understand that you're not going to want to go on a second date with any guy that's not going to understand that anyway.

And also, you don't have to divulge that immediately. But be a little bit more like broad minded, not to the point of being naive. You know, you know what's happening in the world. We all do. We're all aware of what's going on, but just to be a little bit more open-minded and give people a little bit more credit. You know, if you start to understand, if you go on a couple of dates with somebody that doesn't know you're Israeli or they don't know you're Jewish, and after a couple of

dates, you're going to know whether or not to share that information with them. That's a fair point. You could also try doing it on, it's like Hinge, right? You could also try doing it, see what happens. I don't know if you have a close friend that like, maybe you could give them your Hinge password and they could check messages for you and just be like so what is it like so that way you don't have to read just in case like you start getting bombarded with stuff again i haven't i've never been on apps so i don't know what apps look like really but like is there like a friend you

could be like hey could you just i i started doing this a week ago you just take a look through the messages let me know what the vibe is and if they're like i don't see anything and then you know it's like safe and that way you haven't read a ton of terrible things yeah yeah that's a good point. I think my main concern is, you know, if I wait two or three dates to divulge this key part of my upbringing, even if even if it's not, you know, my life now to just spring it on someone a few dates in. But I get it like I it is protecting myself, too, you know, and getting to know someone before if I'm feeling nervous before divulging that. Do you say agnostic Jew in your profile? Um, to be honest, I don't know. I think I put just agnostic. Because if you say

agnostic Jew, then you're like kind of letting people know you're Jewish. And anyone who's like doesn't want to date a Jew period won't date you. I feel like that might help narrow some stuff down, too. Yeah, that's true. Something I listened to recently, The Daily just did a piece on it's on dating over 50 online, which is not necessarily your situation. But there were some really good tips in there about it's the haystack theory, they say. Like, how do you find a needle in a haystack light the haystack on fire so basically it talks about totally reinventing your your online persona and like really whittling down to like here's actually who I do want rather than having the broadest possible results and a lot of people have found some success with that just

check check that out there's a bunch of good tips that does make sense you know yeah you are reading people out yeah I just wouldn't want her to become a target you know for people who are like oh you know let me make my stance on hinge yeah like that's why i'm like is there someone who could like go through the first identify herself as a jew as agnostic someone yeah people like see agnostic jew that means certain things to different people and then see like what the type of messages that come in and then like maybe you have a friend who helps you like whittle through that way it's not just all on you if the messages get really like volatile yeah i could probably ask my sister to do that she'd probably love that yeah this is when i'm an only child this is when i get really

jealous yeah yeah that sounds really nice sisters love this kind of stuff all right well will you uh let us know how it goes i will yes thank you all so much i'll message my cousin oh yeah exactly let's yeah is he single he's super not oh okay well maybe he has some jewish i think yeah i think you have to have a more optimistic outlook be hopeful and be optimistic the whole place is godless and also sister like listeners if you are those sisters who have a brother send us an email thank you so much maya okay thank you all bye maya good luck i feel like we gave her eight different things to do we're like good though lots of things well you were right on the money someone's paying attention well um we have one more

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for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman. Not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? how about we flip it on its head how about we flip the script what if the surprise woman who actually you think is the straight man

is actually the one who's acting weird Adam Scott this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show I would never expect I would never set

expectations for something like that to happen if the universe allows for something like that to happen i am open to it i'm always going to accept you know danny mcbride fine yeah it's all this fragile masculinity exuding i could smell it walking down the hallway to be honest with you i was like is that no i was like is that weed nope it's fragile masculinity ben stiller no because a lot of times in out of context people don't get it or even know what a circle is you know what i mean like They're like, oh, it's a state.

Everyone's so dumb except for you. And fake. Right, fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We are back. Our last caller today is Deanna. She says, Dear Chelsea, here's my situation. I'm in my early 40s, never married, no children. I have a long-term boyfriend of almost eight years. He came with a dog, Yama. Over the years, Yama and I created a very strong bond. Through COVID, moving to different states, countless hikes and backpacking trips, and working remotely, he has been by my side. Best coworker ever. In the beginning of October, his health took a turn. he went from 60 pounds to 40 in a matter of weeks we treated him for all sorts of things nothing

worked my strong dog who hiked up countless mountains with me couldn't even get up the stairs the vet deduced it had to be cancer so on October 23rd we said goodbye it happened fast and I've been taking it really hard I'm not exaggerating when I say I haven't loved anyone or felt closer to anyone than I did with him then add this election business and I just feel so lost and alone. I know you're a dog mom and I know you've suffered great loss in that arena. Any advice on how to press forward? At this moment, I never want another pet again. The idea of going through this feels masochistic, but I know that's my grief talking. Appreciate any advice you can share. Love you and all that you do. Deanna. Hi, Deanna. Hi. How are you? We have another dog lover here

today, Rachel Bloom. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. I really feel you. Oh, I'm sorry that you lost your lover thank you that was really hard to listen to again yeah i'm sorry no it's okay honestly you need to get another dog you do you're gonna love another dog just as much as you loved this dog your love is that is not like you know like it doesn't it's not finite you need to give your love to another person or another thing or another animal and like that's how it happens when as soon as i lose it as soon as i see one of my dogs going downhill i get another dog so that it will soften the blow when i lose my dog because there are so much love to be had in this world there are so many animals that need to be loved in the way that you're discussing your love or the

way that you expressed your love for your dog you have to give that away to someone else and you will and that will help you heal i promise you that will help you heal you don't have to get a puppy go get a rescue dog you know yes of course and go look at and fall in love and transfer that love that you had you don't even have to think about it it will happen you could also try fostering yeah as like a way station if if like you're not ready also I don't know if this is what you're feeling but I I feel like there's a certain shame sometimes of over people mourning pets where they're like I know it's just a pet I know it's and it's and I think in case that's a part of you that's like I don't know why I can't get over this like just allowing yourself to feel

the grief over this being that that you loved and if it were a human what grief would you allow yourself rachel that's exactly what i'm feeling now yep thank you for that validation and also you're saying i don't know if i could ever go through this again like you can you you're you're sitting right here you're going through it you are surviving you can go through this again you're going to go find another dog you're going to foster it or you're going to rescue it and you're going to form a bond with it. And if it doesn't work with the first dog or you don't feel it, then great. Then you'll get a different dog if you foster a dog or if you, but I promise you when you adopt a dog, it's very unlikely that you are not going to have the same feelings

that you're describing. It won't be the exact same because no two dogs are the same, you know, but your love is the same. You know, the love that you extend to a pet is not measurable. It's not like you love one dog more than the next. I've had about six dogs now in my life. And I, whoever my favorite is always the one that's alive, you know? So like, it's a less emotional way of looking at it, but I promise you, like when you have that kind of love to expend, you need to expend it. Okay. That's really good to hear. Yeah. And also grieve, grieve all you want. Like what Rachel said, absolutely. But also think about how you could impact another dog's life with all that love that's true thank you yeah yeah yeah good luck well thank you for having me

on yeah send us a picture when you find your your new buddy yeah yeah if you find your new lover send us a picture please we sure will thank you okay thanks for calling thank you bye it's it is sad when people are debilitated by their pets loss which is what's going to happen to you oh i see it coming down the pike i mean i joke in the special about like i mean pet lot the those websites for pet loss are the most embarrassingly earnest things like the art around pet loss all of it is so embarrassingly earnest and also it makes me very emotional and i think like yeah like they're people so it's it's okay to grieve them absolutely it's okay the bond is so powerful with dogs especially i think with cats if you're a cat person and we have a kid and we

still i mean it hasn't diminished our love for our yeah i know some people have kids and then they're like, oh, we gave our dog back. We gave our dog away. I'm like, what? I can't. I don't. Also, my dog and my daughter are like best friends. Well, I think the dog tolerates her, but my daughter calls Wiley her sister. Oh, that's so cute. She literally says like other people at school be like, I have a brother. I have a sister. She'll be like, I have a sister and she is a dog. And that's what we teach her. I love that. Thank you, Rachel Bloom, for being here. Make sure you guys catch her special on Netflix. It's called Death. Let me do my special it's on netflix make sure you watch it and look out for rachel bloom everywhere she's

just around the corner it'll only take me 50 minutes thank you for being here thank you for having me yes always we'll see you guys next week bye do do do do do do drum roll katherine please Chelsea Handler Abroad Abroad is my European tour which I just announced tickets go on sale tomorrow or today or there's a pre-sale code Chelsea so I'm coming

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