Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Making Out with Josh Radnor

Episode Date: January 29, 2026

Josh Radnor joins Chelsea to talk about the highs and lows of playing one character for a decade, the delights of NYC, and his sober-curious lifestyle. Then: A newlywed discovers an attempt at cheating while snooping on her husband’s phone.  A sister wonders if she’s third-wheeling with her brother and his girlfriend. And an employee wants to do her job and make out with her boss.  Just a little bit.  * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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of the hey jonas podcast we are at d23 so we'll see who stops by the cast of frozen stopped by Kristen Bell, Josh Gad, and Adina Menzel. I auditioned for Frozen. What? For Kristoff. They said, okay, what are you going to be singing today? I said, I don't know. That must have been why you didn't get it.

Oh, you probably won. Plus, John Stamos, Hayden Christensen from Star Wars, and more. And I guess I can share that, uh... No way. Listen to the latest episode of Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, Katherine. Hi, Chelsea.

Hi. I'm in recovery mode. Oh, you didn't have a spill, did you? Oh, no, no, no, not that kind of recovery. I had a lot of people at my house for the last week and a lot of action, a lot of people, a lot of things. And I am really, I just slept probably 16 hours on Monday and another 12 hours yesterday.

So I'm starting to feel back to myself. I have Vegas this weekend. Oh, good. You got to prepare. Yes, I have some new material that I have to test out for my new tour, the High and Mighty Tour, which starts on February 13th, which we've actually made some additions to.

We've added some shows. We added Los Angeles. I will be performing at the Netflix Is a Joke Festival. That's on May 6th. We added Roanert Park, California. The presale is live now, April 3rd. I'll be in Roanert Park. And also we added Atlantic City,

which is on Valentine's Day, February 14th. So those new shows have just been added to my High and Mighty Tour, and my first two shows, Out of the Gate, will be in Washington, D.C., Atlantic City, and then Norfolk, Virginia, February 13th, 14th, 15th. I will see you there. Excellent. Well, I'm excited about our guest today. Yes. Our guest today has a new album called Eulogy Vol. 2, and he is the host of the podcast How We Made Your Mother. So please welcome Josh Radner.

Hi, Josh Radner. Hi, Chelsea. How are you? I'm good. How are you doing? You look so professorial with all of those books. I like the salt and pepper hair and then the books behind you. It's painting quite a picture. You got just the vibe I'm going for. You know what I was thinking on my way over to record this podcast today?

I was thinking, oh, I'm interviewing Josh Radner. And then I was like, how do I know Josh? And then I was like, did Josh and I ever sleep together? We didn't sleep together, but we made out. I'm happy to talk about it on the podcast if you want. Great. Well, we're recording, so let's get started. Yeah. You know how we met is Matt Boren and Jessica Golden, I think. Oh, Jessica Golden. I remember Jessica. Do you know where she is today? Jessica Golden?

She wrote me a couple months ago, but remind me. No, I don't know. I'm curious. I haven't seen her in years. I haven't either. I'll have to check my texts. But they took me to an evening that you were emceeing somewhere. Melrose, what's the comedy club there? Improv. Yeah, the improv. Maybe. You were, and I think it was my first season hiatus of how I met your mother.

And I had a big, long, like, hiatus beard. Oh, yes, it's coming back to me now. You came up to the bar, and I said, great job. And your first words to me, you said, you look like a terrorist. And then you walked away. But then later that night, we ended up making out. Oh, I knew something happened. I'm so glad my memory isn't just shot.

You know what I mean? Yeah, but it was 20 years ago, and we didn't sleep together. I do remember that. Okay, great. Well, that's great information to have. I'm glad. And did we make out at the improv or did we go somewhere after? No, no, no.

You came to my little apartment for a little while and then, yeah. Didn't you have a roommate? No. Oh, okay. I might be confusing you with someone else now. Anyway, it's great to see you again. Yeah, great to see you. I haven't seen you in ages.

And now you're married. Well, first of all, you're a musician and an actor. I mean, forgive me for not knowing this, but I didn't even know you were a musician. Now this is great information to have and to spread the word. He has a new album called Eulogy Volume 2. So there's a Eulogy Volume 1, I'm assuming, which I'm going to listen to as soon as possible. Correct, yeah. Okay, here's a serious question.

Who is the more annoying group of artists? As a successful actor and musician, now that I know you're both, who is more annoying as a group of artists, musicians or actors? I don't know. I don't think of, I don't classify people by their level of annoyance, but I will say that the musicians I've met, especially in Los Angeles, where I now live in Brooklyn, but the musicians I met in LA and in Nashville, where I've spent a lot of time, have been incredibly generous, cool, collaborative people. Acting is maybe a little more like mercenary, like kind of, I don't know,

but I've been doing it longer, the acting, so I'm a little more like delighted by the newness of the music. Do you know what I'm saying? Absolutely. I understand what you're saying. And I have to say, I have a couple of friends who are not, they're not out as musicians yet. They're working on music, but they are actors, two of them specifically that I'm thinking of. And they have the same exact sentiment. They're going to be coming out with music and they're both pretty big stars. So like, and I had no idea. I was like, wait, what you guys? And they're like, well, that's why, cause we have to get it right. You know, because we're so well known in these other arenas. I would imagine the pressure is intense to get it right. But they said the same thing

about Nashville. And they also surprisingly told me that the music scene in Los Angeles is far more not adaptable. Like it's just, there's just more going on musically in LA than New York, which surprised me. Would you agree with that? That is true. I have found New York. I think it's a matter of like the venues are just a little more like active in LA. So like I started playing music at the hotel cafe, which is like an incredibly intimate, you know, there's two stages. The people were so nice. I kept getting invited to these like songwriter evenings and I'd get up and do two or three songs and meet people who ended up becoming collaborators. It was great. Yeah. That is fun. It's first of all, it's so nice to not to have to do one thing, not that you have

to do acting, but you know what I mean? It's, it's what you were saying earlier. I feel very aligned with that. I like to get to do a lot of different things because otherwise I'll get too bored. And what I've noticed by doing a lot of things, I mean, it could be ADD or however you want to frame it or it could just be like artistic behavior you know like the life of an artist is like you kind of have to spread yourself around a little it's not always one thing I guess unless you're Van Gogh it was one thing yeah but I'm sure he had other tricks up his sleeve too that we probably don't know about but I would say that and then the artistry kind of bleeds into each other yeah would you say that that's for me for me it's kind of like I think

about there's just like different ideas need a different form like sometimes I have an idea and I'm like, well, that's a 90 minute story. Like that's a movie. I have another idea. And I'm like, that's a four minute song. I'm not going to get anything more. It's actually better as a song than it would be in a larger kind of, you know what I'm saying?

Like a different arena. Well, you've written, and you've written movies too. And you wrote the Fleischmann's, Fleischmann is in trouble. No, I didn't write that. Taffy Bredeser-Akner wrote it. I acted in that. Oh, you acted in that. Sorry.

I thought you'd created that. That's very nice of you to think that. I'll tell Taffy you thought that. Yeah. Let's just keep pretending. that you're responsible for anything I mention. Jaws, he also wrote and directed Jaws. I did write Jaws, yeah.

I didn't direct Jaws. I directed Close Encounters. Can you imagine? I was just, I grew up on Martha's Vineyard like in the summertime. So they actually shot that movie when my brothers and sisters were in there, like, you know, kids under 10 years old.

So they watched that shark, Bruce, go up and down in the water in the bay on Katama Bay. And they would not go in the water for 10 years after that. Yeah. So what's your story, Josh? You're married. Do you have children now?

No. We have a dog named Nelson who's somewhere around here. That's a good dog's name. I approve of that. And are you planning on having children? Are you anti-children? What's your stance on children? I'm not anti. Are you open-minded about it? You are? Okay, good to know. Great. Just getting to re-know you. Yeah. We didn't cover everything the night we met. We don't. I mean, yes. How could we have? We were obviously busy.

Yeah, we were busy. I'm sure I had a serious buzz going. Are you sober now? I'm like California sober. Meaning only weed, is that right? I like weed. I like psychedelics. I don't drink. I haven't had a drink in about seven or eight years, but I still like altering the consciousness.

I just don't do it with booze anymore, you know? Yeah, that seems to be the trend. You know, I mean, I still drink because I have a real affinity for alcohol, but I definitely drink a lot less because of all of the other good stuff available now, like the healthier stuff. Like if you're microdosing,

whether it's psilocybin or LSD or whatever, you're into. You definitely don't drink as much as I used to, for sure. Yeah. For me, alcohol was just, it just unleashed some part of me that was not great. I also, I don't know, I have it in my family. It just felt like a good move to make, but I still, like I didn't have an off switch with alcohol. I have it with everything else. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of people that don't have an off switch with alcohol. I was like, if one is good, four is better you know yeah four is better and then you get that look in your eye that empty vacant look in your eye and you're like ah it's time to take you home sweetie sometimes you're talking to

yourself you do this podcast i'll watch podcast with how i met your mother you re-watch episodes together and discuss well yeah it's with it's with one of the co-creators of the show craig thomas i already told you you've created everything that we're going to talk about today yeah yeah i've created it's cute if you want to shout out names to other people but we're just going to edit that from the podcast it's called how we made your mother uh it started because my wife Jordana had never seen the show and she really wanted to watch it. And I kind of felt like ready to watch it again. I hadn't seen it in so many years. So I called Craig, who's a really dear friend and I love talking to him. And I was like, do you want to do something a little more formal

and just like go through the show and talk about it? And, you know, it's a rewatch and we don't cover it in like granular detail every episode, but we really do talk about like the major kind of themes of what was up. We talk about what worked still, what didn't work, would no longer kind of works. It's kind of like this meta thing because the whole series was structured as this older guy looking back on his younger years. And now we're like older looking back

on this thing we made. I know that show was, that was like nine seasons, correct? Yeah. So, and you were the very first person cast in that show. Is that accurate? That is true, yeah. Me and Kobe Smulders were the first, yeah. But I was the very first person

who auditioned on the very first day. That is, that is true. That's wild. Okay, yeah, that is wild. I mean, nine years of your life is such a big chunk of your life. So big, yeah. I always thought about it.

I was like, it's high school plus college plus one year. Plus like a mini PhD. Yeah, a gap year or whatever. I mean, it was so long and also it flies by. I mean, it's so weird. Like the thing you're describing of like wanting to go from thing to thing, that's like a little thing probably we share

is like a little bit of a mercurial personality. Like we want to go from thing to thing. And you never think when you get into this industry, I'm going to be doing something for nine years. like that's insane right right and also in a in in like the regular world if you were to go into any job I wonder if people want to go into a job thinking I want to be here for nine years you know usually if you're really kind of like my professional friends go to a company and they'll be like oh I'll stay here for five to six years and then I'll move on to something else right but

I don't know if that's like a different level of employment you know or if some people are just looking for any stability whatsoever but if you were to go into something knowing it would last that long I wonder if our decisions would be the same well you have to I mean when you when you test for the pilot I think it's still like this you have to sign a seven-year contract you know so but but statistically that never happens you know right but and in your case it exceeded the seven years but you're so grateful in that moment when you're signing that fucking you're like please give me seven years of a salary please you never could imagine that you would either grow bored and I'm not saying you did. I speak from my own experience that you would grow bored or experience

any sort of ennui or, you know, like get tired of something. Well, I was like, please give me my health insurance. Like I was like, really wanted something to go. And if you look at nine years of your life, any nine year chunk, you're going to be bored, frustrated, elated. Like it's everything. You know what I mean? Like no one wants to hear that you had a bad day on your hit TV show, but like, of course you do, you know? Right. You also have really fun days. Yeah. And you had such a great cast. I mean, everybody in that cast is a solid, normal, mostly normal person. I don't know them all very well. Depends on the day, but yeah, mostly. Yeah. Well, of course. I mean, we are dealing with actors, but as far as actors go, you got a good

batch to work with. That's for sure. Yeah. I love Colby Smulders. I love Jason Segel. I love Kaylee. Now it says here that you struggled to separate yourself from the role that you played and that you struggled with fame. Talk to me about that. I wouldn't say I struggled with separating myself from the role. I felt like I struggled with other people not willing or wanting to separate me from the role.

You know what I mean? I knew who I was all the time. I knew who I, you know, I knew I was playing a role. It's like, you know, it's such a head trip. Like so many people, and people watch the show over and over. There's these people that are, I love them, but they're obsessed with the show

and they watch it over and over. So they've spent so much time with me as this one person. I filmed this thing. I banked it. I've moved on with my life. And I don't think about that. I don't know the show the way they know the show.

I don't, I'm not saturated in it the way they are. So when they meet me, it's almost like I offend them by having another life and another name and another. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's- I will say of anyone we've ever had on the show, I think you have the most thriving like Reddit life.

Like, you know what I mean? Like people are out there like still having conversations about the show. Oh yeah. A lot. Yeah. No, it's crazy. it's wild

I was just on Jesse Tyler Ferguson's podcast we were just talking about you know because he was on Modern Family for so long and we were talking about like the weirdness of people wanting you to be that character and wanting and interpreting everything you say and do through the lens of the character so it was strange

I mean I think there was one level it was that and the other level was just you know the erosion of anonymity and you know it was weird I just found it very destabilizing I'm used to it now like I know how to walk through an airport and take a few photos with people and move on with my day.

It's not like, it's not a huge deal. But like at the time, I was really unsettled by it. Yeah, I would imagine that's true for a lot of actors. For me, I'm like, you know, I am kind of what I am on TV. So it's a different, I'm not playing a character. You know, my persona is who I am pretty much. You know, luckily it's even better. I mean, hopefully it's even better in person,

but I don't struggle with that. So I'm always curious to hear actors talk about that because it would be really fucking annoying for people to expect you to be in character in the middle of the day on a street in Los Angeles. That's really annoying. Yeah, yeah. I had a girlfriend years ago who said,

man, you're a lot nicer when people come up and say your real name and want to talk about one of the movies you directed. You know, like I just had this weird, but I've really, I've made peace so much with it. And part of it, the rewatching of the show has brought me some peace where I'm, I remember watching these episodes, you know, 20 years ago

and I was so hard on myself, but now I watch it and I'm like, you were young. You were also doing a really good job in a really hard role. Like I have a lot more compassion for myself at this age, looking back on it. I also have a lot more understanding of why people love the show in some weird way. Like I couldn't understand why people are so obsessed with it. I mean, I was like, it's good, but why have you dedicated your life to it? Like, why is it a religion? But now I get that like, it really teaches people something about those years, like those 25 to 35, which are really pivotal, interesting times in people's lives, you know? Right. We're talking about the show, How I Met Your Mother. And then we're talking about Josh's podcast, which is How We Made Your

Mother. It sounds like you've also done a lot of self-reflection and like probably therapy, I'm assuming, correct? Sure. Yeah. From everything I'm, you know, was reading about you in preparation for this interview. It sounds like you have a lot of like stuff you want to get out, you know, especially with the music. It's nice to have the freedom to be able to direct, to be able to act, to be able to sing like these guitar ballads that are on your album that I was reading some of the lyrics of. And it's really just a testament to the creative spirit, I think, when you really can do all of these things aptly and want and have the desire to keep doing it and keep producing things. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. I mean, I, you know, when I was in drama school, like I just wanted

to do an episode of law and order. And then you do that and you're like, oh wait, maybe I could actually be on one of these shows for a while, or maybe I could be on Broadway or, and the, you know, it's hard because the carrot keeps moving. But at the same time, when you do one thing, it kind of like uncorks this thing of like, oh, what if I tried that? Or what if I tried that? And I started writing songs with my friend, Ben Lee, who's a great Australian songwriter. so I kind of apprenticed with this great songwriter like I took it very seriously as a craft you know I I was I didn't like go in with the producer and be like here's three lines make a song like I really tried to get under the hood of how songs are made and um it's just been it's

been so satisfying oh that's so nice to hear where do you think you find your like happiest version of yourself I feel like when I have my hooks in a song or like a script and there's like just like a good writing day is like truly the most satisfying thing for me when I'm when you catch the wave you know and it's not like I mean I don't mind like chiseling away at something but like when you catch a wave there's kind of a thing of like the afternoon walk with my dog and then writing a song and my wife is a psychologist like waiting for her to come down from the office and get dinner in our sweet little neighborhood like like like pleasures are like small these days, but I, and I mean like cosmically big, but small in, in the grand scheme

of things. And I've really liked the last, you know, year and a half we've been married has just felt very sweet. That's sweet. I love to hear a straight man talk like this. Now, what is your, so your wife's a psychologist. How does that play out in your marriage? It's good because I'm pretty psychologically minded, you know, and I can speak that language and she really loves stories and television and movies and she has no desire to be in front, but her story instincts are unbelievably good. Like she always knows what's about to happen in something. She's like always a little bit ahead of things. And when she reads things, I really trust her eye and her ear. Like she's, she's, she's a great shadow collaborator in certain ways. I just read this term called

proleptic irony. Do you know what that is? When the audience knows it's just what you're describing about your wife, when the audience knows something's going to happen in a movie or a book, before the characters do. So as the reader or as the viewer, it's called proleptic irony. And then there's another part of, there's another form of irony, which is not as relevant to this conversation.

But I thought that was such a good thing that there was a term for that. I like knowing that. Yeah, exactly. Does she psychoanalyze you ever? Or is she just too tired from working that she doesn't have time for that? Legitimately, she is too tired.

She doesn't, we don't really do that. I mean, it's more of like, do you want like uh what was that i heard a great thing that was like when when someone comes to you and they're all worked up you say do you want a toolbox a tissue box or a soap box so it's like the soap box is like you just want to vent the toolbox is do you want some help working through this and the tissue box is like do you just want to release it and let it go and uh i think we're pretty good like i've had enough relationships where i'm like i don't do the fucking thing. I mean, sometimes you, you fall into it, but like, I don't get in there and try

to fix it, you know? But a lot of times she's so, she's seen, you know, six or seven patients in a day and she's like, and on Zoom, right? And she is, that is closed for business, right? So then we're just figuring out where to go to dinner, you know? Yeah, that's nice. It's nice to figure out where to go to dinner in New York City. I love that. We're in Fort Greene, which has some of the best restaurants in New York. And we went to Italy on our honeymoon and we were like, I mean it's good but like it genuinely you get spoiled in New York not as good as New York I mean some of it is yeah you sorry Italy we had a great time though I know I think you're right though like it's kind of like Mexico you go to like I was in like I go when I was in Mexico City

I was so excited about all the food and I was like this is not what I envisioned at all and I'm like I feel like we might have better Mexican food in Los Angeles yeah it's almost like uh do you remember that movie, John Carter? It was like, it was basically like a novel that George Lucas plundered for all this inspiration for Star Wars. And then they made a John Carter movie. And then everyone's like, it's like a Star Wars ripoff. And it's like, no, that was the original thing that George Lucas loved. And I feel like Italian food or Mexican food is probably like that, where it's like, that's the OG thing, but we like took it and made it something else. Yeah, exactly. And that's what we've acclimated to. And we're like, we think that's right.

Exactly. Exactly. Same thing with pizza. You know, there's that famous pizzeria in Rome. Did you go to Rome on your honeymoon? Well, we flew through. We were up in the north. It's like called the cemetery or something.

It's everyone goes there. And I went there and I was like, this is really disappointing. Meanwhile, you know, you can't say anything because you're like, fuck, I don't even want to sound like an idiot, but I do not like this. If I lived in New York, I would just be twice the size of myself. Every night before I go to bed in New York City, I have to have a piece of pizza. Yeah. I hope if I lived there, I wouldn't act like that because I do want to live in New York

City one day. I just have to wait for my hell that is Los Angeles house to be done being built, which I bitch about on this podcast all the time. So there's no reason you shouldn't be privy to it as well, Josh. It's fine. But also in New York, you end up eating at like 10 o'clock, like a full dinner at 10 o'clock. And LA, you're just, it's a whole different thing.

I would like to be up at 10 o'clock. You know what I mean? Yeah. And that, New York would even provide me that. LA is Sleepyville now. LA makes you very elderly very quickly. You're like 5.30 dinner, you're asleep at 8, you know what I mean? I said I have to move to New York soon because otherwise I will be too,

like at least it's motivating. You're always going out and there's too much happening around to not participate in some of the action in New York. I was just telling my friend, I'm like, I'm going to have to move to New York. Otherwise I'll die in like five or ten years because all I do when I'm in LA is sleep. I honestly went to bed last night at like 8.45. I was like, I took an edible and I was like, oh, fuck it. You know, like, what am I watching?

Nothing important right now. I just sold my house in LA. Like, I'm fully living in New York. Like, I just closed on it, like, three weeks ago. Could you have sold my house with your house as, like, a little couplet? Where are you staying in the meantime? I'm staying currently with my friend Kat. Thank you, Kat.

She's put up with me. We're, like, basically turning into a lesbian couple. She cooks. She's a busy career woman. She takes such good care of me. I bring nothing to the table in terms of domesticity. I am as useless or as useful, I should say, as an ashtray on a motorcycle when it comes to domesticity. But I provide personality and I like to finance things.

So that's what I'm good for. You know, you have to find your strengths in this world. And those are mine, Josh. Those are mine. On that note, we're going to take a break and we'll be right back with Josh Radner. The new Red Bull Dragonberry and Tropicberry Energizers. Now at McDonald's. Made with freeze-dried fruit and an electric burst of flavor.

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traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book

your first trip. I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back with Josh Radner. He has a new album out called Eulogy Volume 2. And everything's just under your name. You don't have a band's name. No, just my name, yeah. Josh, are you ready to take some questions from some callers? We dole out advice here like professionals. Oh, wow. I didn't know this. Okay. Yeah. I'm up for it. Surprise. You're going to love it. Everyone loves it. Yes. Well, our first question is just an email. This comes from Nikki. She says, Dear Chelsea, I'm writing because I'm struggling with a situation in my marriage and could really use some outside perspective. Oh, perfect. We have a married man here. Right.

Exactly. And a married woman. Yeah, exactly. My husband and I have been married for 10 months. Eight months ago, we moved across the country for his job, which meant I had to leave all my friends and family behind. We're still adjusting to the new city, and he now travels frequently for work. A few weeks ago, I went to visit friends, and while I was gone, my husband went out to a bar. I had this nagging feeling and knew something was off when I got back, so I ended up going through his phone. I know, I know, not proud of this. What I found was that he had texted a girl he met at the bar around 2 a.m. He had apparently left, and he was asking her to come back out to the bar, offering to pay for her Uber. It didn't seem to go beyond texting, but the fact

that he was actively pursuing another woman while I was visiting friends, the friends I had to leave behind because of his career, feels like such a betrayal. Totally. When I confronted him, he apologized and seemed genuinely sorry, but I can't shake the feeling that he's getting more comfortable seeking attention from other women. The combination of frequent travel, us being apart often, and now this incident has my trust at an all-time low. Here's what I'm struggling with. I hate that I felt compelled to go through his phone, but my gut instinct was right. Now I'm worried he'll just get better at hiding things. I also feel especially vulnerable because I'm isolated in this new city without my support system, and it feels like he took advantage of that the moment

I left town. We're planning to have a serious conversation about this, and I'm considering couples therapy, but I'm not sure if I'm overreacting or if this is as big of a red flag as it feels. How do I know if this is something we can work through or if I'm just setting myself up to be a detective in my own marriage? And how do I deal with the fact that I moved my entire life for someone who might not be as committed to our marriage as I thought. Thanks, Nikki. It's a lot. I would say that's a big, big red flag and really unfortunate.

First of all, I'm so sorry, Nikki, that you're dealing with that. But I'm of the belief that when something like that happens, it has to become such a big deal to make the first time the last time. You have to get into counseling right away with somebody, with a therapist, to understand why he would even allow himself to get to that place to be drunkenly texting somebody at two o'clock in the morning is so disrespectful, so unacceptable.

You're 10 months into your marriage. That is a huge red flag that he's doing that. And while I wouldn't say like, oh God, you got to divorce him. You have to immediately draw attention to the matter. There have to be consequences to those kinds of actions. I don't care about anyone going through anyone's phone.

I mean, it's not ideal, but if somebody does and they find something, it's usually because of a female instinct and you want to, Like you're not pouring through your husband's phone all day long. But now that she saw that, she's going to do it again. It's woman's intuition. Like we kind of always know.

And I do agree with you. I think that this is something that they can work through, but like get into therapy immediately. And this is not going to be two sessions. He's obviously having some Peter Pan stuff about like, oh God, I'm married now. I still want to sow my wild oats. But like, I do think if he's committed to getting past that, you guys can get past it. What do you think, Josh, from the male perspective? well I think first of all it's like a pretty insightful letter like she has some real

self-awareness and I think that that is terrific I hope her husband has similar kind of self-awareness he might be in a fog of like you said like Peter Pan like I understand all that it's like women have their own version of this but I think men sometimes marriage can feel like the end of like hanging up some aspect of yourself that was like that very energizing and fun and exciting but in a good relationship, all that stuff can come out to play and still be active. But I think you're right. It's like, it's no good. I mean, it's almost like live your life in such a way that no one needs to go through your phone. Like that's a good way to be, you know, like you, you want to feel like your public face and your private face are the same, especially in your

marriage. I mean, if I was like keeping massive secrets from my wife, I would find this marriage really hard to be in. So I feel like you gotta establish guidelines where it's like, we're transparent with each other, where the behavior doesn't, you don't have these side behaviors because you're obviously trying to escape something that's a bigger issue,

which is why couples therapy is inevitable for these. Right, couples therapy and then individual therapy for him too, because it's also really so unfair to put your partner through that, to know that she has a job that takes her out of town. And now every time she goes out of town, and this is what's going to be on her mind

instead of her being able to focus on her job and be, you know, the best person in her career that she could be and all of the goals that she wants to attain or reach or aspire to, whatever, like you're putting an onus on her now to actually have to be preoccupied with your childish behavior

because you're drunk at two o'clock in the morning and it's just so lame. And that puts her in like the mother role and him in the child role, which is very unsexy. Yes. I would say that her larger question, am I overreacting?

I would say no. Yes, correct. Right. We all agree that you're not overreacting. And, you know, I think people don't talk enough about how hard that first year of marriage can be. I know in my life, like, we went through probably, like, two years of therapy. About a year in, we started going to therapy. And, like, I just didn't know what I didn't know, you know?

It really helped. And it's why I'm still married 20 years later or 15 years later. And what were some of the, like, the challenges of being married in your first year? Well, it's a big adjustment. Like even people, I found friends of mine who are like, well, we've been living together forever, so it's not going to change anything. But I think it's an expectation shift where people are like, oh, they're going to come home at a certain time or we're going to like, you know, no one's going to stay up watching

TV. We're going to go to bed together. Whatever, like little and big things. There's a lot. There's a lot. I mean, having to go to bed together every night. I mean, opt out of that. I think any healthy couple doesn't do that every single night.

You know, obviously you can't. I have some friends who've been married a long time and they maintain that as their secret is they go to bed at the same time. That they go to bed together every single night at the same time? Yeah. Oh, wow.

Interesting. I'll have to think about that on my drive home. I'm not so sure about that. I will also say, I think one of the big keys for us was like, you know, they say never go to bed angry. For us, it was like, go to bed angry because you like, maybe I've had a couple of drinks and even if not, you're tired, you're grumpy,

you're circling the same drain over and over and over. Like go to bed, you wake up and you're like, what were we fighting about? It's like holding off on sending that email at night, you know, an angry email. That's the most like

common, somewhat dumbest marital advice. Everyone says it and you're like, no, think about that. Go to bed angry sometimes

and wake up and be in a better place. Yeah, but also who fucking came up with that that we have these like, it's one of those axioms of life,

like don't go to bed angry. It's like almost like something that, you know, any idiot could have said and then everyone's like, yeah, let's repeat that.

Rinse, cycle, and repeat. Yeah. do you have any rules that you and your wife follow about maintaining? I mean, you obviously seem very well balanced, Josh, and that, you know, well, it's been a hard one. It hasn't always been that way. My wife had, uh, she said, I only have two rules, which I thought were incredibly sensible. One was be kind, which I think is great. And the other one, when she said, don't read my journals, she's kept journals like for years and years and years. And she's, you know,

and she, and she has a friend that in the event of her untimely death, her one job is to come to the apartment and get all the journals and burn them. Like she's very sincere about like no one is to see these. These are just for me. Which only would pique my interest more. Yeah, I know. It hasn't.

I honor it, but. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that is such, talk about a betrayal. Reading somebody's journals, my God. Terrible, terrible. I can't even believe people still write with their hands. I had this, I got that new gratitude journal And I was like, okay, I want to do it in the morning and at night, every night.

And then my friend's like, oh, you could do it on your, you know, you could download the app and do it on your phone. I'm like, I could type. I'm like, I could only get through, you know, when you're writing now, it's like so hard to write for some reason. Your hand is like, what are you doing? I know. And I can't fit all the words.

It's like my handwriting sucks now. And I'm like, well, if I type it, I get so much more in. Then I want to list 10 things instead of three things, you know, that made today great, et cetera. So yeah, I'm all about the phones now. I've given up. we're living through the technology age and now we're living through the artificial insemination and intelligence age. Don't remind us. Two things I don't want anything to do with. I don't want to

deal with AI. Well, our next email comes from Allie. She is calling in. So she says, my name's Allie. I'm 32 and my brother 31 is my best friend. Don't worry. I have other friends like a healthy number, but for a lot of reasons, including complex family dynamics, our shared dark sense of humor and the bond we formed caring for our grandma during her dementia years, he's been the most important relationship in my life for a long time. Here's where it gets tricky. In the past year, he's entered a serious relationship. I've known this girlfriend for years and I think she's lovely. This isn't one of those, I hate my brother's girlfriend situations. Sounds like it's going to be though. But something about it just isn't fully clicking for me emotionally. It's not

jealousy and it's not drama. It's just change. And apparently I'm not thriving in it. We live next door to each other, because of course we do, and I'm realizing I've built a little too much of my identity around this brother-bestie dynamic. Most of my other close friends are getting married, having babies, or moving on to new life phases. And while I'm good with my own path, I think, I need more tools to invest in me again. So how do I begin to lovingly create space between me and my brother, who is, again, still my favorite person, without feeling like I'm pushing him away? I don't want to be weird or dramatic. I just want some practical, emotionally intelligent action items for carving out a little independence without breaking the bond.

Allie. Hi, Allie. This is our special guest today, Josh Radner. Hi. Hi. Nice to meet you. That's so sweet that you're best friends with your brother. I love that. That's really nice. I understand that you're dealing with change, but you know what? Listen, this is not like everyone has problems with change. I mean, not everybody, but so many people have problems with change and have problems with making adjustments and actually having somebody else come in. even if your best friend wasn't your brother, you would, it would probably be hard for you, for your best friend to have a relationship and being introduced to them. So give yourself a little bit of grace. And I would just, whatever you're into, just like exercise more of those

activities. Like literally, like if you're in a Pilates, make sure that you're allotting time for that. Make sure you're allotting time for your friends. Do you, you have friends, I'm assuming? I have a lot of friends. I go to Pilates every day. I do pottery. You intuited that Chelsea, amazing. and you have hobbies you like pottery it's more like like I said I like love his girlfriend I think she's fantastic I just realized like when he got into the relationship that my identity was like more closely tied and like right now it's fantastic and amazing everybody's out here there's like a lot going on but in the off season there's not a lot to going on you know it's like small

town you know everyone it's very condensed and like everyone's in each other's business and you feel like during those winter months when it is quieter that you are encroaching on their private life like because I don't think your identity is tied to your brother unless you actively like your brother and sister that's not going to change yeah we're very much in like the same like social circle too and I just like I felt like oh my god like I don't need to be like third wheeling with his girlfriend all the time. Like it was just like, I, I just want it to be like chill and cool. And like, I don't know. I don't know. It's a, it's like, I don't, I don't know if there's like a correct answer or like even like a piece of advice. Can I offer something

Ali perhaps? Like my wife has this theory that like, if we're a solar system, like, and you're the sun, your brother was like Mercury, but he might have to be Venus. Like he might have to like go like one planet away you know okay where it's like you're still in relationship you're still in the same solar system and I think when people partner off dynamics have to change because the primary relationship is like the relationship yeah you know totally I love that analogy isn't that cool I think there's like a really cool opportunity for you to like what Chelsea said like lean into other stuff grow other parts of yourself also grow other friendships and you know just follow the seeds. And then I think your relationship with your brother will like take

its new place in the solar system and it'll start to feel right. But you're just in the like adjustment change period, which is like a meteor, like around. Yeah. You're like in the liminal phase. That's what that is. Right. Where you're kind of in between two things, but also just, you know, like in thinking about it in thoughts, like towards your brother, towards his girlfriend, how long have they been together? Like over a year. Okay. Just, I would say like lead with your heart and lead with love. Like don't overthink things too much. Don't think, oh my God, am I spending too much time here? Like you can have those thoughts, but don't overanalyze your relationship because it is your brother. You do have a relationship. It sounds like you have a

pretty healthy relationship with his, his girlfriend. You, you know, that you're going to like try and grow these other parts as Josh said, very eloquently grow these other parts of yourself, but also just lead with love. Like don't punish anyone for these circumstances and don't make it like, you know, Oh, I'm going to, I'm not going to be available to them because I don't want them to think I'm too available. Like I have my own life. Like don't, don't play games like that. Just lead with your heart and, and, and really be, try and be as present as possible when you're with both of them. Because like what Josh said, I want to echo, like there is a new version of this coming around and it's in these in-between stages that get so sticky. I think for all of us,

when we don't know where, what, you know, what we knew is not exactly right anymore and what's to come isn't exactly happening yet. So we kind of get stuck and it's actually a really nice phase for you to really get in touch with yourself and really be present in the relationship and show up like heart forward, love first, and totally with no judgment towards yourself or them. Yeah. Okay. To practice that. I love it. Yeah. Okay. Well, thanks for calling in. I love that question and i love josh's answer and i feel like yeah good good good luck with everything thank you and good luck with whatever you're promoting josh can't wait to listen to the episode and he's got a new album out he's got a new album out you can download yes

yes i'll go on spotify right now or download on itunes but yeah it's called eulogy eulogy volume two on by josh radner and you could download it anywhere yeah okay amazing well be great. Awesome. Thanks, Allie. Your new album is going to get her into her Venus dynamic with her brother. She's going to end up sleeping with her brother. Watch what this podcast leads to. Well, our last question today comes from Stephanie and she is 48. She says, Dear Chelsea, I recently started working for a small-ish local business. My friend connected me with the owner and we instantly had a connection even before we met in person. Once we met in person, it was even more intoxicating.

Nothing inappropriate has happened, but over the last five months, I have just crushed so hard. It goes in waves where he, I think, flirts with me and then stops. We really get along and just mesh. I think constantly that I just want to make out with him. It's to the point where we're passing friendly, work-appropriate touches. We text each other randomly, almost just to let the other one know we're thinking about each other without actually saying it. I've never in my life been this drawn to someone so magnetically. He even gave me a plant.

If that wasn't a sign, I don't know what is. I mean, a love fern. Who does that? I don't want to get fired. I don't think he would, but I also don't want to quit because I love my job. How can I just make out with him? Just do it already. What?

Hello. Hi, Stephanie. This is our special guest today, Josh Radner. Say hello to him. Hi. Hi, Josh. Hi. Look, you look like you're like having an affair sitting there.

Like you act like you're doing something terribly wrong. What kind of work do you do that this is so, I mean, honestly, I feel like work romances are just, you know, unless there's some huge power dynamic, there's really nothing wrong with them. So I am an operations director for a small-ish company, but I work very closely with the owner. And can I ask though, the owner, he's not married.

He's single, yeah? He is single. He's divorced. okay so he's still single yes okay so I think you need to make your move sister like five months what are you doing can't make the move right he can't make the move he's right so you're gonna have to let him know how you feel and also give him an exit in case he doesn't have the same feelings but you got to do it you're a woman you have to be brave and be a woman what if this is the love of your life I know and honestly so I had to hold Catherine that I am divorced I've

been divorced for eight years. And never during this eight years have I found interest and not one person. And so my friends are just like, Oh, my God, like, of all people, of course, you're like in love with your boss. Like, why is this happening? But I'm just not brave. And I guess I need like, more reassurance. I'm worried that our dynamic will change. If for some reason, then it didn't work out or I also don't want to be rejected I don't know but you got to get rid of the rejection part that's part of life and if you don't want to be rejected then you then then you almost don't deserve to be in love because you have to experience rejection that's just the way it goes you can't be afraid of it it doesn't make you less of a woman it doesn't make you less of a

person it doesn't make you less valuable it just means that that person and you aren't a perfect match that's okay you're not going to be a perfect match with most people that you meet yeah no that's true can you do something cute like slip him an email or slip a little note on his desk ask him to meet for a drink like is there something that you feel more comfortable doing in order to just get the message across like hey do you want to meet for a drink later tonight I think there you'll get an answer to that real quick that'll give you an indication also so he stopped drinking and so that was one thing that we would we would go do we would go out for drinks. Or like one time I was telling him how I love a martini, but I wanted to try

the specific martini. Well, then all of a sudden he brought all this stuff to make that, but like now he's not drinking, which is fine, but that kind of just changes the dynamic a little bit. And so that makes it harder. Cause I'm always like, let's just have a drink. But then also I'm like, okay, you're on your sober journey. So can I ask Josh here? So you're, you've been on a sober we're drinking for a long time. Like what's the dynamic of like asking somebody to go for a drink and you go somewhere that has five mocktails to choose from. Yeah. I, I just get a bitters and soda or a club soda. Like I like being in bars. I don't mind being in bars at all. You know, I think like in terms of being bold, something like, Hey, I really like our dynamic. I really

like the notes and the, you know, whatever you guys are doing and say, I don't want that to change. I was just wondering like if we could maybe work in like a little bit of making out and just see what that's like. I think that's all I want to do. I just want to make out with him. Yeah. And then we'll go from there. Just like, let me just make out with you one time.

And then maybe he hates it. Maybe I hate it. And then problem solved. Right. But I think also there's a trick in creative writing where they're like, I don't know how to start this story. And they're like, well, tell me the story.

And then you tell them the story and you're like, that's it. That's how you tell the story. Like, that's how you write the story. So everything you said in the letter is like, I really like this guy really like our dynamic I just would really like to make out with him but I don't know how to broach it I think that's what you say I love it yeah because all my guy friends are like he's giving you so much and you're not responding to like the thing like if he

says something to me like today he was like I'm wearing my favorite jeans that they're vintage Levi's that I loved finding and he's like I like your I like your jeans and I'm just like it's like Like, it's clear he's flirting with me, but I'm like, oh, thank you. Like, I don't, I'm just. But just, you just need to go for it. Go for it. What's the worst thing that could happen? He could say he's not interested.

It sounds like he is interested. And he's, it sounds like he's not in a position to make a move on you because he is the owner of the business. So think about those two things and send him a cute note. Send him what Josh said. Send him something like, I know you stopped drinking. Any chance you want to come and watch me have a drink? So you could say anything cute that's going to be,

that even if it gets rejected, which is also a step towards getting closer to your goals, I believe, even if this guy rejects you, I know you haven't been attracted to anyone in eight years, you will be again. You will be. Hopefully this is the guy. But in case it, you know, like you have to be,

you're stronger than that. That's silly. You know what I mean? Like rejection is whatever. And there's a lot of flirting going on. So there's like proof in the pudding. and you need to capitalize on this moment because what if someone else comes along

and is willing to capitalize on the moment? Like you got to jump in there. But also like rejection is good information because you can move on with your life. Like it's good to know. And also it's win-win, the rejection. I think what Chelsea's saying is right. Yeah.

Yeah. So we're going to need you to do something and report back to us, okay? I will, for sure. Okay, we're going to give you one week and then you have to call Catherine and let her know what happened. No, I'm serious.

But he's leaving for Germany tomorrow, so he'll be gone for 12 days. Perfect. Then today seems like a perfect time to do that. Actually, today does sound like a good day because that would be great for him. He did ask me, how late can you stay at work? And I was like, all night. Stephanie, he likes you. Yes, Stephanie, wake up and smell the cappuccino.

Go be ballsy. It's very exciting that he's leaving for Germany. You can leave him with a nice make-out session right before he goes to Germany, and he's going to be thinking about you the whole time. Ding, ding, ding. This is your moment. Okay. You got this.

Okay. We believe in you. Thank you. Go, Stephanie, go. Go, Stephanie, go. All right. Bye. Thanks, Stephanie.

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have sex josh actually because you are charming and yeah and you that was the right move i don't I think if we had sex, I'd be on your podcast 20 years later. I think I was- You'd be surprised. I was seeing, oh, really? Yeah, you would be. I feel like we've had somebody that I didn't clock that I had sex with on. And then after I was like, wait a second.

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