Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - McDonald's Anyone? feat. Mark Macdonald

Episode Date: June 17, 2021

Chelsea and Brandon debate the essential qualities of a good hangover breakfast, reveal past experiences with disordered eating, and take questions: A beauty suffers from body dysmorphia. A mom struggles with food binges. And body expert Mark Macdonald of Venice Nutrition joins to discuss being aggressively happy, getting stomach muscles that pop, and building a sustainably healthy relationship with food.  The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees. This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, Adam Scott, Danny McBride, Ben Stiller, and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. For everybody who doesn't follow me on social media, I'm announcing my new stand-up tour. It's called Vaccinated and a Horny. That's referring to me. And I have some dates.

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Brandon. I know it's really warming up quickly. It's hot because global warming is happening and California seems to be melting. No? You're gonna be fucked because there will be no ice left. No there's no ice left. By the way the ice in the fridge leaves that weird taste in your mouth. It's like metallic. Yeah yeah yeah. It's the worst. I know. Can you imagine how disappointed I am? Very. Yeah it's getting very very hot and I don't like the heat. I don't like it when it's hot hot. People think L.A. is like some paradise, but it's much hotter than it used to be. People forget that it's basically a desert here. Yes, it's a desert.

You're right. I forget that. I didn't even remember that. They have this idea that it's like tropical. No, it's fucking hot. Yeah, and everything is brown and arid. I went on a hike the other day, and I went over to Sarah Silverman's, and it's brown. Everything is brown.

Brown, brown, brown, brown. There's no lush greenery, even though I always forget California is the desert, and I think of it as green because everywhere I live is always green. Well, because they bring the greenery in. And then it's so expensive to maintain. Yeah, right. It's unbelievable. I'm having a Diet Coke right now, you guys.

I couldn't help myself. From McDonald's. Yeah, you guys, I had a really, really late night last night. So we did stop at McDonald's. You got an Egg McMuffin? I got a Sausage Egg McMuffin, which I love. And I haven't had one since I've been home, sweetheart. So fucking good.

And a hash brown, which I just want to smash my face into. That's how delicious it is. So I like to get a Sausage Egg and Cheese McMuffin, the hotcakes, and two hash browns. That's my hangover meal. hot cakes yes their pancakes taste like cake I don't give a shit about pancakes I don't care I don't think I've had a pancake oh we're gonna have one oh no no no I don't care about pancakes maybe blueberry if they were stuffed with blueberries but I don't care about pancakes at all I don't want french toast I don't want pancakes I want eggs and cheese and like

fried you know what is weird is when you get a sweet craving you have to have like you will scour the house for anything sweet but i default to sweet i don't care about my favorite chocolates are called toby tobins and they're dark dark chocolate the fucking best sea salt on them and brandon has a box of them i reserve for me at the house all the time and he hides them because i can't control myself but they have these oh god they're so fucking good they make this turtle any of their nutted chocolates don't say nutted oh my god say nutted chocolates any of their chocolate by the way when you're talking about chocolate well their best nut cluster their best that i've had is their rocky road it is delicious but did you tell the woman that i just want the

ones with the nuts in them yes i sent an email but why does she keep giving me the ones that because they're pre their boxes so the boxes that we get are predetermined because they come in different sizes and they have the chocolates that they put in those boxes so they're made up and ready to go so i let her know that we wanted to customize a chelsea handler box yeah i yeah i think it's time with that priority she knows i'm like her best probably her best customer in town she's very grateful she sends very nice messages she loves nice okay good hi toby i should follow her out at the malibu country mart and you will not regret it oh wait oh is that where she is in malibu yeah they moved from brentwood they're in malibu now their store is really cute i really

just want a weed update well this is week four weed this is week four brandon i'm losing track Like, well, because you've done so well, there's not been any issues, really. You've not lost it. OK, I'm just I thought it would be more excited that I was able to accomplish four weeks of no cannabis smoking. And I don't feel excited. I'm just like, OK, well, you have strong willpower. So I think that's part of it, too, that it really for me, at least from the outside,

it was never going to be that much of a feat because you've done it before. You could do it again. And it's not like heroin or crack where you're like, oh, my God, I have to have this like get through my day. It was a nice booster. but now you're going to be able to enjoy it again and it won't take you 25 milligrams to feel high right exactly so yeah i'll be lightheaded i have to be very careful about my intake i'm going to start microdosing up 2.5 milligrams that's smart yeah just just start i'm just going to start all

over again just pretend it's all over again like you're a weed virgin you know i think i'm just done with it like i want to smoke now it's like okay i did it i showed you okay but i was at my girlfriend's the other night and it was hard because there were people smoking joints and i I was like, wow, I really want one. And I just had to literally walk away. So you're getting the weed cravings now. Well, no, it wasn't the weed craving. It was like the social aspect of it.

I wanted to be part of it. I wanted to get stoned, you know, like I wanted to be like stony baloney. But with people. Yeah. Because there are times people will do it on their back patio by themselves. Some brand just sent me a huge thing of new joints. So as soon as I break this, that's where I'm headed. It's nice to have that to look forward to.

Yeah. Blazy, lazy something they're called. I don't remember. blazy susan is it blazy susan yeah thank you blazy susan speaking of cravings do you have cravings when you get stoned because you often talk about women get the munchies and i always associate them like i feel like i have pregnancy cravings when i'm stoned i always kind of want the same things you have things that you go to like mcdonald's del taco well obviously i love mcdonald's breakfast if i'm hungover so that's a morning that's a morning treat you

wouldn't have that at night no no no no they don't serve breakfast at night you're more civilized they do oh this is this is a new development for for you maybe but they actually started doing all day breakfast probably like two years ago so now you can get your sausage jake mcmuffin your hot cakes which disgust you but really excite me at any time so it may be a good late night no no i'm gonna just keep that where it is in my head because i don't need to add anything else to my repertoire i don't have anything in the house that's even fun to eat except for my toby toby and chocolate So even when I get stoned, it's not about the food because there's nothing there. I have turkey and I have tomatoes and I have egg whites and chocolate.

Well, you really do yourself a service in that way by keeping everything very clean in the house. But there is nothing worse than when you are stoned and you really want a treat. Well, what about if you're me and you don't even know how to operate Postmates? And so you're really stoned and you do want a meal and you can't even do it, you know? Yeah. Bonitos tacos. That's a good one. Last time I got really stoned, I made Levi drive to get it because it was out of the delivery zone.

And he knew I needed it badly if I was going to make him drive 40 minutes. Those are fried taco shells. And the reason why they're so delicious, so they have like carnitas and then they have beef, shredded. It's all shredded. Yeah, I like the shredded beef. And they have the chicken. But at that point, you might as well just go for it because it's dipped in oil and fried. So like you're not trying to get chicken over beef at that point.

You might as well just get the cancer straight away. I V it. Yeah. as you can see by that part of the conversation, that we have some unhealthy habits. But also, I've been on this nutritional, I really do hate using the word journey now that it's been set up that we shouldn't be using it. Sometimes it's the only word that works. Well, we need to come up with a replacement word then because journey is just, it's overused. It is. I can't. This nutrition experience. I don't know if that works either. But anyway. Adjustment maybe. Yeah. So

we have in Healthy Habits, we're going to talk to our nutritionist Mark today. We're going to talk about some body image issues, things that we all seemingly deal with. Yeah, he's been my nutritionist since I was, I think the first time I saw him was when I was 27, 28. I'm 46. So I've known him for 20 years. And Brandon's recently got on the bandwagon with him as well. It's a good way to engage in like healthy, clean eating and living. And it kind of reframes your logic around food and the way you kind of think about what you're putting into your body. He always talks about food as fuel. And I'm like, oh, shut up. But it's so true. It's like it is fuel. Like Larry David had a quote where he said, whatever you're eating, it is either helping to keep you

alive or helping to kill you. And I think that's true. That's really interesting. Well, today we're going to have people calling in, writing in about body dysmorphia. We have an interesting submission about being a gluttonous, someone who has really unhealthy eating habits. I'm like that. I have that i have i have aspects of my personality that are gluttonous if i have a piece of food in my car it ends up in between my legs stuck to my jeans i watched a video the other day of this woman saying about her you know eating habits being gluttonous and that she will verbally tell herself these are here i don't need to eat them all in this sitting like you can come back for these it's okay to put them away and as simple as that sounds like i would eat an entire fucking bag or container of

oreos thinking like who who else is going to fucking eat these before i get back to them so Yeah. I don't like finishing things like that. I don't I'm not going to finish a container of Oreos like that. That doesn't make me. Then I'm like, whoa, I fucking lost the plot. Yeah. And that's a lot of my life. So I got to get fucking on track. Yeah. Well, I guess it's that's why you just don't get it. You don't have it around. If you don't have it around, it does work that way. I'm not going to have something in my kitchen that I'm not going to eat or demolish when I'm, you know, weak. I get it. Well, let's take a quick break and then we will get into the submissions. behind every night spent making the kids lunches there's a lot of suspense will they finally eat the veggies will the pesto survive the first bite will the lunchbox come home empty half full or come home at all and will you finish episode 8 before you're done slicing the cucumbers

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On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus, or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first.

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change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us.

Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on its head? How about we flip the script? What if the surprise woman, who actually you think is the straight man, is actually the one who's acting weird? weird adam scott this entire time you've been expecting adam sandler to come to visit the show i i would never let go of that i have i would never set expectations for something like that

it seems like if the universe allows for something like that to happen i'm open to it i'm always going to accept you know danny mcbride fine yeah it's all this fragile masculinity exuding i could smell it walking down the hallway to be honest with you i was like is that weed nope it's fragile masculinity yeah ben stiller no because a lot of times in out of context people don't get it or even know what a circle is you know what i mean like you're like oh what's this everyone's so dumb and fake right fake and and also not interested or just like oh i've got my life i don't care about your life and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us oh and by the way will ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a

guest on every episode but he's just so busy listen to hollywood handbook on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts so our first submission comes from aram b okay she is 26 and she writes in dear chelsea i have been diagnosed with body dysmorphia and an eating disorder in short i hate my body despite the fact that my body is technically considered desirable or ideal by the American beauty standards. I work out, eat healthy, wear clothes I like, but I can't find anything that helps. How can I learn to love my body? Yeah, God, it's really hard to love your body. I didn't start loving my body until I was like in my 40s. And obviously everybody knows because I can't keep my top on. But body dysmorphia is just

so common among women. It's really, really disenchanting to hear how many women struggle with positive body image and have eating disorders. Before you entered your 40s and started to love your body? Were you able to embrace your body before that? No, much healthier about my body positivity now than I was when I was in my 20s. I had anorexia nervosa. You know, when you exercise exceedingly after you eat just to burn all the calories, it's kind of like what you have right now. That's what I'm going through. Yeah. And I had that and I would go jogging for minimum an hour, possibly two hours every day, depending on how much I weighed that morning. I still weigh myself every day, you know, because you pack me with a scale. You report back.

Yeah. And I let you know because the weight could be an indicator of my mood. It could really dictate my day. Like if I was going to be in a good mood, I was this weight. If I was in a bad mood, it's three pounds heavier. Really, really embarrassing stuff to even have to admit, you know, and so you don't admit it. You kind of hide it the whole time. I definitely went through a bulimic stage where I threw up for a while in my twenties and that kind of drifted probably for the full decade of my twenties. I was just like, oh, I'll throw it up. Like, you know, I had no regard for my wellbeing until I finally just dawned on me that I have to actually be physically fit and strong. And like, I want to be because, you know, bulimia messes with your

mental alacrity. Like you become foggy, obviously, because you're depriving yourself of all the nutrients needed. Well, so much of this is also the media's representation of women. And I think that right now there's a real course correction happening where there are active participants in media trying to represent women accurately and appropriately. So they don't feel this burden. But men also feel this way. And I don't know if that's something men obviously don't speak about often amongst themselves or amongst each other but there's definitely especially around LA you see it it's embodied with these men who spend hours upon hours in the gym or are so particular about their lifestyle habits so they don't really give themselves leeway to enjoy life because they

are so strict on their meal plans and their diet regimen and their exercise program so I think that everyone struggles with this to some degree but women certainly get the brunt of trying to maintain an unachievable standard. Yeah. And Aram, you have to like, it is your responsibility to get yourself healthy during this time. And even though that seems like you're climbing up a massive mountain, it is so important for you to get yourself together now. So whether that's like positive affirmations or meditating or, you know, seeking counseling, like you have to get yourself out of this habit because it's just a rut and you are the only person who has the power to do it. Someone's not going to come along and be like, you have to stop. Well, Aram's on the phone. So let's

Oh, well, you should have told me that when I was talking about her five minutes ago. Okay. Hi, Aram. Hi. Aram, you look like a Disney princess. Yeah, you're adorable. Oh, my gosh. Wow.

Thank you. Yeah. Did you get to hear anything of what I just said? No. We were just talking about how common this is, first of all, right? Okay. Everyone deals with this. Like, I was just talking about my personal history of eating disorders when I was in

my 20s. I was very unhealthy. You know, I was bulimic. I had exercise nervosa. I had a bunch of all this stuff. And my friends and I would do it together. My friends and I would, like, throw up together. I remember in my 20s, like, I had girlfriends who were all bulimic together.

Like, it was our drill. And he was talking about male feelings having the same feelings, how, you know, prevalent it is in the gay world. So it's not unique at all. And you are completely responsible for pulling yourself out of this. You know, you have to change the narrative. And it's so easy to make the change. I've done it. And it seems like it's so much harder than it is.

like it is so easy to pull yourself up because once you start to pull yourself up like everything starts to work out for you and it's easier to get away from bad habits yeah it's I mean one of the things that makes it so incredibly difficult in in the United States at least is it's so much of eating disorder behavior is seen as normal or or it's like glamorized or encouraged I mean I was shocked when I received my diagnosis last October because I didn't think anything of my symptoms. And like you said, I've got girlfriends who restrict and we talk about restricting or eating disorder behaviors and no one thinks twice about it. Well, I think there's a movement happening towards healthy living that people often confuse with dieting, where those are

not mutually exclusive. You can be someone who eats really clean but has a terrible drinking problem which obviously affects the quality of health in your life why are you staring at me when you say something like that well you're just here i mean i what is it so your restriction you restrict yourself from food is that yeah okay for days just very minimal like i would go to crossfit come home and have broth for dinner right right so it was just like i would just see how little i could do basically for as long as I could or the bare minimum but doesn't it make you think when you know it affects your mental like crispness and clarity how does that make you feel so I'm in recovery and that's one of the things I I do try and like continue to tell myself like you

don't want to go back to that melancholic state where everything just has this gray haze and you're miserable and anxious and and you know that's what I try to hold on to what makes it so difficult is I look in the mirror and I'm just so disappointed with what I see and there are days where I look in the mirror and I I hate what I see and that's what is so hard to shake so often and I'm just part of why I sent the email is because I'm feel like at times I'm grasping at straws with myself. Well, you have to grasp a little harder at the good straws. You're a beautiful young girl. You have your whole life ahead of you. So this is not going to be your story that you had an eating disorder. This isn't going to be your story. And that's why you have

to get rid of it and start your story. You know, this is just a little fraction of your life and it's not as big as you think it is. It's just being treated like it's the biggest thing in the world. It's just a little passage of time. And you're up to make that passage of time as short as possible. It's up to you. Yeah. Can I ask you this? So far, I've not told anyone about this diagnosis, like none of my friends, because I just, I don't even know how to approach it myself, much less trying to involve my loved ones. None of my family knows. Only my boyfriend knows. That's it. What are your thoughts on me sharing this with more people or at least people in my inner circle? What would be your reason for sharing it with everyone? I guess emotional

support if I'm having a bad day or someone to fall back on or, you know, advice. See, I think that this is something that you should confide in your circle with even people that you may not necessarily be close to it, because the more you normalize it for other women or men going through it and can have that conversation and have people holding you accountable and explain that this is a process. And so some days you may fall short. Some days you may have a more positive outlook it's just going to make that experience feel you have people behind you who are willing to go through this experience with you yeah yeah yeah but the most important narrative again is the one you're telling yourself like it really isn't about

other people it's good to have other people yes but that should not be your crutch you're your crutch and you're going to get yourself out of this and your diagnosis does not define you it's a diagnosis for a period of time in your life that's not the way it has to be yeah yeah all right well keep us posted okay okay great thank you so much for having me on please take being our patient seriously and take my advice i will i i mean another reason i reached out is how frank you are and i mean i love that you post pictures of yourself naked and i'm like that's what i want that can be you yeah that could be you too i want to post my tits online too well one day girl one day one day well thanks aram okay thanks aram yeah thank you guys so much for aram i mean i'm

not trying to diminish anyone's eating disorders but they seem to have changed since i was growing up because calorie restriction is now a thing yes like i'm in a calorie deficit yeah okay sweetheart we all know what's going on through your body you're going through the change i'm trying to go through a change one of them i wouldn't mind going through the change because i am sick and tired of getting my period i would love for you to go through the change so we could finally regulate the fucking temperature in the house can you imagine what a cunt i would be going through menopause or maybe i'm scared of me but there'd be a light at the end of the tunnel it's like the vaccine like i'd know that something good was gonna happen death the light being death

the light at the end of the tunnel being my demise oh sweetheart what a terrible dark i know i don't like to think of your demise because then i really like to think about what that means for me and i'm not ready for that i'm getting hungry sweetheart okay well let's get through at least But what I was going to say is so calorie restriction. Yes, you're in a calorie deficit. So calorie restriction, like eating disorders have to be handled with much more attention than they were in my time, because in my time, you couldn't like, you know, nobody cared that you had an eating disorder because everyone did. And now it's like, oh, we see the damage it does to you throughout your life. So now it's like people aren't doing things as damaging, but it's still damaging. Well, I also think that there was a time where fad diets were so prevalent that everyone was switching their diets so regularly that no one thought of anything as an eating disorder. While putting on 10 pounds, every diet causing you to gain weight instead of lose weight. Eating disorders are like a dime a dozen. I'm actually, you know, when I meet somebody who hasn't had experience.

Is it shocking for you? With an eating disorder, I'm just like, oh, wow, so lucky. Girls' problems are they eat too much when they get high and they have trouble going to the bathroom. You gave this advice and you're special, but you might as well give it again now for any woman who can't go to the restroom. Magnesium O3 by Aerobic Life. They're over-the-counter and they're magnesium and calcium. So they help you sleep and they help you go to the bathroom every day. And if you get into the habit of taking them, you'll never have a problem again.

That's two problems solved, sleep and pooping. Uh-huh. Everyone comes back and is like, thank you so much for that. Because you don't want to be taking laxatives and stuff like that. No, no, no. No, you want to be careful with your butt. I know. Well, of course you know, but I don't have that as much experience with my own butt.

You know what I mean? I don't know. I get it. I need to know more. No one needs to know more. What they need to know, you just told them, and that's macro seven. I've taken it. God, weight fucking sucks.

Well, your diet sucks. Aram, we feel for you. Okay, so our next mission is a write-in under the pseudonym The Gluttonous. Well, this is right up my alley. The Gluttonous. Okay. Okay. The Gluttonous writes, Dear Chelsea, I'm a binge eater.

I eat until I feel sick, but I won't purge. I just get depressed. Oh, well, this is right on topic. Yeah, seriously. I just get depressed and lie around until I eventually starve myself for the day until I feel like I deserve to eat food again. I've been living the cycle for 20 years, and I've gone from a healthy weight to an unhealthy weight countless times. I can't maintain healthy eating habits to save my life. I'm a single mom in a partnered relationship and hide my binge eating from everyone.

ever since the lockdown and pandemic i haven't been able to control myself things have gotten out of hand and i've gained 50 pounds i want to have another child get married and love my body but my mind controls my hand and mouth save me give me the rawest form of chelsea handler advice save me from myself sincerely the gluttonist we both actually have this issue uh yeah totally i have a total lack of control over myself until well then but that's not true because then i also have a good willpower when I want it. But I think that that's kind of what she's saying as well, that she doesn't have healthy habits, but it's been a cycle. I think, first of all, for someone like that, I think they need to eat on a timer to get themselves re-habituated to something else.

Like what you do, you eat every three to four hours. I also ideally eat every three to four hours. But I think you should, because that's really when your blood sugar stabilizes. Like if you eat healthfully, like if you have, say, four ounces of a protein and like, you know, a tablespoon of peanut butter or an ounce of avocado or a tablespoon of salad dressing. And then you have some berries or you have some vegetables. If you eat like that and are really healthy and you are like very controlled and eat every three to four hours, which is our nutritionist Mark's plan, essentially, I think it gets you on a program. It's like you don't have to think about doing that for life. It's how you think about getting yourself out of this rut.

And the number one reminder I would say to use is your child. Every time you go to the fridge before that timer's up, just set your timer on your phone like I do. And just any time you're about to break or do anything, just remember that you have a daughter that you need to be healthy for or a son. I don't know if you have a daughter or son. She didn't mention that. She just said she was a single mom. Right. OK, so maybe you have more kids, which is better because the more you'll care. But I think you really need to get yourself out of this habit. Brandon, what do you think? This is exactly, that's exactly what I was going to say, because my relationship to food, my life revolved around it. If I was sad, food was there. If I was happy, food was there. It was because I didn't, my family didn't grow up with a lot of money. It was kind of the one thing everyone had to give to show affection, or it was based on every interaction. And so doing Mark's plan, which the way Chelsea describes it, it seems like, oh, that seems like a lot of work. It's a macro plan. So you have a certain amount of protein, fat, and a carb at every meal. It's very balanced and you never get that like afternoon sink where you feel tired so it just kind of

maintains healthy levels in your body and you can find out online you do a macro calculator so you know but the timer holds you accountable so you're getting back into this now what's his thing called venice nutrition venice nutrition so go to venice nutrition.com you don't have to sign up necessarily but just get a look at what his whole philosophy is because it works i've done it brandon's been doing it he feels incredible you get a ton of energy you get your self-respect back because you're in control of the situation. And it seems like right now you're out of control. So you just want to use this as a tool to get yourself on the straight and narrow because you do not want to be hiding, binging, and you don't want to be doing that. That's not being strong for your kids or

for yourself, really. So go to VeniceNutrition.com, do a little research, and just remember you are in control of this. This is something that your relationship to food, what you eat, and how often you eat, you can control. It seems impossible sometimes because everyone has a craving and And we all go off. It's not going to be 100 percent of the time that you're going to be in control, but you can always get yourself back to that point. And also, if you can find a well-respected hypnotist in your area, because I went to Kerry Gaynor in L.A. for smoking and that worked. And everyone's like, it's never going to work on you. It's never going to work. And it worked. I've never smoked a cigarette since I met him. Well, and we've sent countless people to Kerry Gaynor. And they've all quit smoking.

So typically people who can hypnotize you to quit smoking can hypnotize you for eating disorders, for fear of flying. So if there is somebody in your area and you're not in L.A., if you are in L.A., carry a gainer. And then the other thing is, yes, go to VeniceNutrition.com and check it out. Start saying the sentence. You don't have an eating disorder. You had an eating disorder. Period. It's in the past.

So turn your future into what you want. That's great advice. Okay. I would like to know, the gluttonist, if there's a change. keep us posted but it's hard because you just have to like say no to yourself so now that i've been doing this and i did it for four weeks very strict i did not deviate from the plan at all there was no sugar in the beginning it seems like you're never going to get control or you're never going to be okay with having limited options or having a limited amount of something but then you

realize how off track you had gotten with food that like everything and especially in america The portions are huge. Everything is very seasoned with salt. Like, we're just conditioned to eat a certain way. And we're also conditioned to eat all the time when it's so unnecessary to take in so much food. And things become so much more of a treat. So, like, I got this. It's from a company called Skinny Bitch.

They do that cauliflower pizza. And that's been, like, if I want something that I feel like is bad but still relatively good, and it's fucking delicious. So I don't feel like I'm sacrificing anything. No, you should save your sacrifices for margaritas anyway. Well, that's what I try and do, knowing that Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we've been going for margaritas and a rollerblade. I know, but we have to change that schedule up a little bit. We didn't go rollerblading every day last week. No, we didn't.

We went one day. I think we go rollerblading on Mondays. Is that the days? I think so. I think we need to switch that up to Friday, because I think that's a great way to wrap up the week. Yeah, I think you're right about that, as usual. Okay. We've been talking about Mark for the last 10 minutes, so let's just get him on the phone.

Oh, there he is. Oh, oh. I'll see! Oh, here we go. Oh, Jesus. Ah, I love you. Brandon, look at you too. Hi, Mark.

Mark, how happy are you that we have come full circle? So Brandon went on your program. I start every day thinking I'm going to do the program. And then every day, you know, like I can't wait three to four hours for my next meal because I was getting stoned a lot. So I was eating a lot. And then I was like, okay, this is a vicious cycle. And then finally I came home from Whistler and Brandon was on your program,

had lost all this body fat, lost all this weight. And I was like, oh my God, I've got to do it. And I've been doing it. And honestly, just like that, my body leaned out. Just like that, like five days, five days, I'm ripped. She snaps right back. Look at you. You are like, you look amazing always.

You never age and you get sexier every single day. Well, I appreciate that kind of endorsement, Mark. Do you see Brandon's body? Brandon, did you show Chelsea your abs like bending over? he's he's listen you're turning him this is the problem mark mark's been my nutritionist for like i don't know almost 20 20 years forever i met you when i was 27 so yeah almost 20 years anyway i i went to him because i had never had abs right i kind of like what you did look at our paths yeah and i had never been you know remember i had real issues when i came to you

mark i was like you know so obsessed with my weight and so obsessed with my body and you put me on a program of healthy eating every three to four hours, you know, protein, fat, and carbs in a healthy way. And I felt incredible. After two weeks, I had just dropped like three or 4% body fat. And the key is to really not ever overeat and always eat when you're hungry, right? So you're never starving your body and you're never storing fat. And then you got me ready for a couple of bikini covers I had to do. And I always try and stay on the diet, but you know, sometimes it's, It's not even a diet, really. It's a lifestyle, as Brandon likes to say.

Yes, it is retraining the way you think about food, your interaction with food, how you view food as a necessity or a fuel. It can still be a luxury. It can still be something that you enjoy, but it doesn't need to be at this maximized. You don't have to be obsessed with food. Brandon, you make me so proud, man. Like, you're like just rocking it. Chelsea, I still remember when we first met. I called you, you know, when I was in Valencia, California, and I'm on the phone with you. And that was just, you know, you inspire me because

you take action. You love your health. You understand the importance of your health. You challenge me. You yell at me in a loving way. And we have so much fun together because you understood food and then how to take your body to another way and how to make it a way of life. We talked about how busy you are and how hard it is to eat when you're on the go. but you to me when you got ready for the shape cover as you continue to live as every year passes you just understand your food and what i love about you is once you know it you can choose to not do it for a moment but you always come back to it and that's inspiring yeah and my my first question when i went to him was like i don't want to give up alcohol what can we do

and he said okay you have to just have one drink a week for the next you know few weeks and then we can reintroduce the alcohol at a much more you know reasonable level everything in moderation yeah well sometimes but to this day we still have the chelsea salmon asparagus and vodka that is the meal for everybody right there that was the chelsea favorite anyway that sounds about right are you standing up i need you to sit the fuck down because your energy is already jumping through the screen you know how he is he's like this all the time he will hug you when you see him, whether you want to be hugged or not. And he'll hold on tight. He is maximum energy at all times. I am standing by the way. Yeah, of course you're standing. Listen, you burn three times

more calories standing rather than sitting. So I'm being smart with my, with the time I have. Okay. Yeah. Copy that. I want to talk to you a little bit about Brandon because Brandon is getting very body obsessive. And the other day he said that he shaved his stomach to show you his abs because he's worried that his bottom two abs are not popping, which I had never heard that term before. And I said, you're going to get into a situation where you're as obsessed as I was about your body. And so I wanted to talk to you about that, because how do you not become, you know, when you start manipulating your weight and your body and you see, you know, how lean you can get and how much energy is derived from being healthy about your diet,

you can get obsessive. Yeah. I mean, I think with Brandon, the, the, the real challenge that he's had and, and I've known Brandon for years is that he's always been fit and healthy, but he's never been able to take his body to another level. And that frustration I think is worse than the obsession of taking it to a level. So he's been searching and searching and trying and starving. And what he's done in the past is you starve yourself. You cut your calories, you cut your carbs, his face leans out, you look like a skeleton. And then he still didn't have the abs. So when he reached out to me, it was awesome because I just said, listen, you can achieve, you'll get your eight pack. It's going to be a process, but we're going to do it in a way

that it's going to become a forever way of life. And that's what we had to run as he's going on a trip. The whole thing was how do we help him get ready? How does he see those abs as he's got a leaner, as he's understand food, as he, the leaner he gets, the more he eats with diets, the leaner you get the less you eat so now we have his top four coming in when he lays down he gets his top he has all six and now he's starting to see his bottom two so he's almost got the eight pack and now we're focusing on building a little more more muscle in his abdominal region so it pops even more but i think what brandon's seeing is that he's loving his exercise his energy is great he's a little obsessive because he has a goal but once he achieves that goal we move it into

a lifestyle for him and Levi. So they make this a permanent part of life, not something you do for a moment. And Levi is my partner and he is doing this regimen too. I do just feel like out of everything I've ever tried, and I've tried a lot of shit. I just feel like this is something I can stick with forever. What's nice is, you know, you can still go out to eat and have things. It's about the balance of that meal. So I don't feel like I'm out anything. And again, I just feel like I had such an unhealthy relationship with food that this forced me to reflect on how much I was eating, why I was eating it. Because you also realize that you go through your day grazing on things like I'm not even hungry. I'm just bored or it's occupying my mental space. And so now when

it has to be more thoughtful, you get a lot more out of your meals, not just, you know, nutrition wise, but mentally. Right. Like, look, I brought my lunch today, Mark. I have my turkey and my avocado and my mustard for my snack. I forgot a fruit, but whatever. The one thing I did learn from you, well, not the one. I've learned many things from you. One thing that I always take away is I never eat fruit by itself anymore because I know then you're just hungry again an hour later. So you have to combine that with a fat or a protein at the very least. Always have a fat, right? Because it takes the fat to burn the fat. So it's all about blood sugar. So that eating healthy is different than eating balanced. So fruit by itself will break down, spike your

blood sugar make you store fat get you hungry an hour later protein and carbs balance each other fat slows down digestion and i love that i love what you're doing chelsea because you can for the last 20 years you just consistently go back to it and i think that's when we talk about brandon he was unhappy with his body now he might fall off plan but what he's doing he has a knowledge now so he knows what to do so the pressure is off just like you you come back you say okay brandon's inspiring, I'm going to get back on plan. It's not something that's torturous. It's not something you have to suffer. You can eat the food you love. You just eat smarter and work out smarter. And then you control the success you want with your body. Can we talk a little bit about intermittent

fasting? Because obviously that's the trend right now. People love to intermittent fast. I hear that all the time. I've done it. And you know, so let's hear your thoughts on that. Yeah, I think there's three main philosophies. Now you have keto, intermittent fasting and blood sugar, which is what we teach about not using food to lose weight but food to create balance there's three questions i would always ask number one is it based on the science of your body number two can you do it for the rest of your life and number three which would a kid or teenager on it intermittent fasting is designed because when you turn 30 every decade 30 to 40 40 to 50 you lose five percent of your muscle mass so intermittent fasting was designed as a way where people wanted to still eat foods

they love, but do enough to not have the scale increase. That doesn't mean you're progressing. You're still regressing. So you don't eat till noon. You can't eat past eight and you'll lose weight. But is that something you want to do for the rest of your life? Is that something that's going to let you live the way you should to reprogram your metabolism? No, it won't. It will be something to maintain and slow down your regression. Keto is the same way. You cut out your carbs, you eat protein and fat. Yeah. You force your body to burn fat, but you burn some muscle. No one wants to live keto without carbs for the rest of their life. So you have to ask yourself, is this something you want forever? IF works, low carb works, low calorie works.

The question is, is this something that you prepare to do forever? Most people do it. They go back to their lifestyle and they regain everything. If you implement just understanding how to eat the food you love in the right balance, you release your stored fat, build muscle. And it's something that you can do for the rest of your life and actually reverse the aging challenges and increase your metabolism. But aren't there a lot of health benefits to fasting though? Yeah, I mean, my take is if you eat clean food and you move, that's your greatest health benefit.

And we just have to keep thinking of how we were fed when we were born. Babies feed every three hours. They have breast milk or formula, which is the same in the sense of that. It's balanced with protein, fat, carbs. Babies stop eating when they're satisfied. They eat again when they're hungry. The first year of life, that's physiology. That's how we fuel our body.

We stop eating that way because of lifestyle, not because of our body's needs. And your body is the best adapter, so adjust. I think fasting in periods can totally be healthy. But if you eat clean food, less salt, no nitrates, and you eat clean and you drink water and you move your body, you're cleansing your body every single day. And then when you want to bring a little alcohol in or you want to have an off plan, go for it. Just get back on plan. That's the key to success. Yeah. And I like your philosophy, too, is that when you do have a cheat meal or you do go off plan that the whole day isn't gone.

You know, that doesn't mean you just get to have McDonald's for the rest of the day for every meal that you go back to your plan. But the next meal you go back to the plan, like if you're hungover, of course, you're going to want French fries and something greasy. So once in a while, that's OK. But the next meal you have to get back on plan. But this also goes back to once you were on the plan for X amount of time. I was on it for almost eight weeks before I deviated at all. When you're eating such excess or things that are not good for you and have such high salt content or just they're over flavored, you become desensitized to it. You think everything should taste that way.

And so you don't even really enjoy it at a certain point. You also realize how much we eat that is unnecessary, like the excess, right, in which we eat, you know, in which portions are served. And when you realize like, oh, if I do Mark's plan and I have, you know, a scoop of peanut butter as my fat or a tablespoon of dressing, you're like, holy shit, what am I eating in a restaurant when they're dressing your salad and putting tons of fat in it? Last night for dinner when I was weighing everything out, and this is also the thing is I think it can be overwhelming for people when they do start to search for a plan that's going to work for them or a lifestyle that

they can really commit to. You can start to ballpark things. Once you get through it for a few weeks, you just know like, oh, all of these white meats are interchangeable. So it doesn't feel like you have to think as much about it. Yeah. People don't want to weigh their food. That's definitely like a barrier. So, but you can gauge it. Like, so now I've gotten pretty good at knowing how many handfuls or ballparking where that's going to be. And it's always about right. But when I was looking at the meal last night, I thought, Oh my God, like, you know, three months ago, I would have thought that this was a starvation diet. I was looking at it, but that's, it's not, we just overeat consistently. I also think with Brandon, he wants an elite body.

So it's Chelsea. It's like when you got ready for the cover of shape, there's, there's a certain level you commit to but the reality is this for women a palm of protein a fist of carb a thumb of fat you don't have to weigh your food it's about just understanding pfc protein fat carbohydrates a third a third a third on your plate keep it simple eat every three hours and your body's starting to win and i think a lot of times with food it's the emotional attachment i'm 48 almost 49 and i was grew up focusing on you know if you a bad day you eat a good day you eat. And a lot of times it's this emotional attachment to food. When you balance your blood sugar and you eat this way, you take away the psychological craving,

the physiological craving, meaning that you don't crave the food. You still might want it, but you don't have the physical need for it. So it gives you back control. And I think that's what we all want to understand how to live our best health, feel our best and not feel like we have to suffer and be, be attacked by food. We can decide when we want to eat it and how we want to eat it. Well, so that's a great lead into one of our submissions that we had. It was from a woman who classifies herself as a gluttonous, that she goes through these phases where she'll really focus on eating right and staying healthy. And then she will binge basically until she's sick. And she'll do this for prolonged amounts of time. So not just one day. So for someone who feels like

they really cannot regain long-term control of their eating habits and something like this plan sounds like a great idea, but they wouldn't even know the entry point. What would you recommend to someone like this? Yeah. So it comes back down, you know, 1%. I've told the story when I was seven years old, I couldn't speak and I couldn't form words and I was going to be held back on in a second grade. And my dad came home and my mom, and it was like, I was devastated because no one could understand what I would say. I thought I was speaking the words, but no one would understand it. And my dad went to my room and put a big 1% in my room and said, listen, you're going to have tough days. You're going to want to quit, but you can learn how to speak 1% at a time. And for four

years. I worked on my speech, focused on it. And then I got there. And now I speak all around the world. I'm able to do this podcast with you, all these things, but it's the 1% that went with me. I think your health is starting where you are. And you have to think about the 1%. If you can maybe walk five more minutes, if you can sleep three more minutes, if you can get one shake in or one balanced meal, you're getting there for that exact analogy. A lot of times people overeat because they starve, they starve, they starve, and physically they need to fuel, and then they go. But if we can just start her at just balanced meals,

the physical need, the physical cravings won't be there anymore. She'll feel better week after week. And then those big binges, they'll start to dissipate. They won't be there as much. So I think the first step is let's start balancing her, looking just at protein, fats, and carbohydrates. Start with your breakfast, start with your snacks,

start with your lunch. And by doing those mid-morning, mid-afternoon, you won't crave that lunch and dinner that amount and not starve yourself so that you get a result and then you want to then overeat if she's interested in your program can you tell her where she should go and what she should do yeah so the first you know chelsea handler one of the greatest women in the world people in the world best honor ever she wrote the forward for our book body confidence so that's a great book that really teaches you my company's venice nutrition you go to venice nutrition.com but a great read to understand about nutrition is starting with

body confidence. Body confidence. And then, yeah, when it sounds like overwhelming to plan your meals like this, it's actually, A, it's empowering because after the second day of doing it, you're like, okay, I've got the system down. Now I know, you know, the cravings disappear very quickly. So if you have somebody that is listening, that is gluttonous, that is interested in this, like I really would beg you, you can even just join Venice Nutrition or go on and take a look at it and you don't have to make any major commitment, but I urge you to take four or five days and really be serious about it and see how different you feel at the end of four or five days because you feel like you're in control again. And that's a good place to be when you're

talking about food and you're talking about people who, you know, overdo it. Well, and I would just like to say to both of you that there are certain aspects of your beginning of this change in your relationship with food that seem like you're never going to get there. And so I think, you know, with my body specifically, Chelsea and I had to have a conversation the other day where she was she's like i think you're taking it too far like it's honestly a little alarming like i'm working out in a trash bag under a sweatsuit oh yeah this is a fucking story like i get like i get that okay so yeah so mark will encourage this behavior though that's your fault mark he came over first he changed into a plastic bag he put over his body which i've done also uh just for the

record let the record state i have had a sweatsuit i used to go in my sauna and just but that was when I was, you know, it was unreachable goals because I was just overcompensating for bad behavior and bad eating and bad drinking. So it was never going to even out. But I definitely had one of those black sweatsuits that makes you sweat extra. So he put the trash bag on and then put what looked like a scuba suit over it. Well, it was a neoprene sweatsuit. Yeah. Yeah. A neoprene sweatsuit. And then he was on the treadmill and texted me and said there was a puddle. Were you at my house or at the gym? No, I was at the gym. At the gym. And he said there's a puddle at the bottom of the treadmill and I was like yeah of course it looked like my water had broke yeah

right well so anyway after that time it's an extreme it is about working hard and it's about feeling good and I feel so good right now that yes I want to look a certain way but I also don't want to feel tired or weak all the time and so I feel like I'm getting stronger but in that moment so Chelsea we're we're marquing back and forth sending video messages and she basically said hey what you're doing is great and like I understand it I've been there but in those moments you also need to practice as much as you're practicing self-control you need to practice patience because it's not going to come overnight so all these extreme things that you're doing is not necessarily going to change you tomorrow like it's a process and so with what you were

just speaking about mark the one percent that's why I don't weigh myself every day because I was doing that in the beginning it will make you mad looking at it because it's fluctuating so now I will weigh on Friday just as kind of a checkpoint of where I'm at, knowing that if I'm down anything anywhere or even maintaining that I'm doing the right work. Yeah. And also the scale does not define your success. So I think everyone listening, when you start your health, you have to look at your internal and external. How's your energy? How's your appetite? What's your inch measurements? Take some pictures of yourself because your weight can vary for multiple reasons. Stress, lack of sleep. Yeah. You could be on your cycle. I'm on my cycle right now. I mean,

remember when you would text me that and the weight would be up i can't believe you even tolerated my behavior when i was that crazy i mean with pleasure i know and he loved it he'd be like no problem chelsea love you so much it's okay i'd be like i found cellulite on my arm now what but i love that by the way but just everyone listen you make sure you know you don't have to wear trash bags or scuba suits like brandon no you don't that is extreme i do want to ask something that's not necessarily related to diet but it's just about your attitude and outlook on things how do you maintain i'm in a fucking bad mood today mark so how do you maintain such authentic positivity because people you can't see him but he's not stop smiling the entire time

and he genuinely is like this like he knew me for about six hours where he's like love you and i know that and i know that he and i know that he meant it which is as strange as that seems like there is just something about him that is authentic to his core he's a positive person and for other people because we also have a lot of people writing and saying like i can't get myself out of this mood i can't pull myself out of my funk and i don't know that they're mutually exclusive but there does seem to be some sort of connection in the lifestyle you're living and your positivity i mean for me it started with my mom my mom is just since i was a bait i mean she just loves life and she would always tell me that and just always instill that in me and then it just

was part of me and i just believe in people i love people i've had an amazing life and at the end of the day, I believe in people. I believe in the greatness of what we can be. And I think as I was always, you know, when I was seven, I said, I couldn't speak. I had asthma. So I couldn't play sports. I've always just, I've always felt like an underdog. So I've always wanted to empower people that regardless of where you are in life, regardless of your circumstance, you can always reach for your greatness. It's never too late. You just got to start 1% at a time. And if you cast that vision, you can achieve it. And so many people are struggling with their health, with all of the challenges that happen with COVID, with where we are as a

society. It's just you got to start. You got to make a decision. You don't have to starve yourself. You don't have to cut stuff. You can love your food. You can love your body, whatever type of body you have. Find that space you want to be and cast that vision and go for it. I don't know that there's a better place to wrap up than that. No, I just would like to close this with a story about Mark flew out to my house in L.A. a couple of years ago because I was like, I've gotten off the rails you've got to come out here and help me and he came out for like a week and i was scared because you know of his energy level i'm like oh fuck what's he gonna make me do you know he's gonna train me and get me back on my program sand sprints probably yeah he loves sand sprints and

by the way they fucking work you know do a sand sprint you probably wanted to work out again for the rest of the week but i warned everybody at the house who was working at the house and who hadn't met him before like you will get assaulted by this hug like there's no way around it he's coming in hot and he will not take no for an answer and uh everyone and i remember tanner's because tanner goes i can't believe that you're okay with that and i was like i actually don't know that i you're right i can't believe it either i've never thought about how i've been tolerating mark's enthusiasm but it's infectious and you know he's really he means it i mean it's a lot and it works so there you go but we need it mark yeah we need to i needed it today so thank

you well we I need you to and your heart and just this is a Chelsea story I've known a lot of people in this world her heart for the people she loves and the people in for everybody is one of the most special things and I just want the world to know how special you are Chelsea how you give how you want to make a difference and you inspire me and that goes right to Brandon so it's an honor to call you a friend you're both are family to me and as you know I'm always here for y'all fly to la anytime you come to atlanta anytime and i'll clip you body fat you together we change the health of the world sounds good say hi to abby and the kids give them a big massive hug yeah give them a big massive hug for me mark you take care of that bye bye oh brandon it's like your

new boyfriend well listen how lucky is abby oh yeah i know i know how lucky she is or is he just driving her fucking crazy you know like because if you were living with somebody that was in that good of a mood all the time no i would hope that it's contagious i would hope that it really would force you to feel happiness yeah yeah i guess it would his son hunter he has a son and a daughter and his son hunter's older and he's just like he's just like mark he they came to one of your shows i don't remember which but i remember probably atlanta because he lives in atlanta now i remember Oh, no, it was Nashville, I think. Oh, really?

Yeah, I think it was Nashville because they showed up. Is that by Atlanta? It's not far. And his son, who had never met me, immediately walked up and hugged me, knew me by name. Like, that is just. I know. His son is really incredible, actually. That is a special family.

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for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman. Not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? how about we flip it on its head how about we flip the script what if the surprise woman who actually you think is the straight man

is actually the one who's acting weird Adam Scott this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show I would never expect I would never set

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also not interested or just like oh i've got my life i don't care about your life and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us oh and by the way will ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode but he's just so busy listen to hollywood handbook on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts on the new podcast solita we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman i can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle i chose option b i'm julie pinero and i travel by myself because it's a rare space where i can say yes without asking anyone else first i'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita trading the

pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Are you, what's happening with your mood, Brandon? How are you feeling now?

I'm just not in a good mood. Brandon had a really rough. It's been a bad few days, and I don't like that headspace, and I had to tell Sweetheart on the way here that I'm really annoyed today, and I don't want to be annoyed, and I keep trying to pull myself out of it, and that makes me more fucking annoyed. I know, but you can't shame yourself for being in a bad mood. It's annoying to break your phone.

It's annoying to have a burglary. all those things are stressful so don't beat yourself up for being in a bad mood just let it rip just be in a bad mood well you know what i've i have accepted this point i'm acknowledging it accepting it i'm just gonna try and move on okay because that's all we can do like i don't want to sit in it for too long i did for a bit today and it's just been a whirlwind i know it has been a whirlwind it it has yeah you're gonna get out of that neighborhood you're gonna put your house on the market which you were gonna do anyway and you're gonna move somewhere else because Sweetheart even generously offered to buy a house big enough for myself, my partner, and four cats to live in.

She didn't know about the four cats. I forgot about the cats. Yeah, I forgot about the whole cat situation. I don't know how Bernice and Bert would react to the cats. Oh, I'd love to see their reactions. Put Bert and Bernice down at some point because those two aren't really bringing anything to the table. We're not going to make it much longer, I suspect. Don't say such things.

They get up in the morning when they know my bell's coming. They fucking run around. It's like they're two different dogs. Yeah, they're really energized. As soon as she leaves, they're on the floor. Bert is depressed. For the rest of the day, it's it. It's like lights out. I'm like, excuse me, this is our only time for you to pay attention to me because she's gone. And so she leaves and then he goes to bed. It's like lights out and day's over. They're probably just on a very bizarre

sleep schedule. They don't know. They don't know what time of day it is or what they should be doing. They're just like, oh, it looks like it's bedtime for her. We'll just pass out too. I had a long day yesterday and I came home and got right into my poor LeFemme pajamas. That's Robin Wright's company From my friend Robin Wright Best pajamas I never used to wear pajamas Until I got these

They're amazing And yeah I got into bed I had friends in town And I had social events Every night For the last five days So yeah

Last night I've not seen you In such a condition Oh In a while Sweetheart walked into my room And I said I can't

I just can't do anything I said Can you just cancel my day And he said No Allison will kill me My manager And I said

Okay Just asking I was asking for a friend If it was cancelable But what did I do? You said no. And what else? You said, you need to eat something.

I'm going to go get you McDonald's. And you did. You got me a sausage egg McMuffin, which is my hangover food, and a hash brown. And I actually ate two sausage egg McMuffins. I'm not proud to admit that, especially since we just got off the phone with Mark. But I did feel better. I was slightly nauseous. And I just powered through.

You know, I am good like that. I will fulfill my responsibilities. Nothing keeps you down. You were able to work out at 8 a.m.? Have you guys heard about this lightning fit workout where they strap everything up to your body and you're connected to these electrodes? Yeah, it's like an electrode suit. And it stimulates your muscle, so it contracts your muscles at an alarming rate. So the workout itself is 10 to 15 minutes long, which is exactly the duration I'm interested in working out.

And I'm super sore. Like my butt cheeks. Oh, my ass is on fire. Yeah, my lower ab. Well, that could be for a couple of reasons. but my lower abs are super super sore so that is a great workout to complement my workouts with ben bruno to supplement your workouts with ben bruno he was like five days a week for a while and i didn't know if you were gonna make it through the homicide rate at your house was

gonna go up yeah yeah yeah it's better that i see ben like four times max per week no more than that and then that's when things start to get a little bit dicey do you feel like your body responds best when you are incorporating other workouts because you do pilates now maybe we're going to introduce this lightning fit do you like doing those different yeah I like to change it up my body has been responsive to like all the stuff I'm doing because of those peptides I'm on you know I'm on these peptides that like kind of help your body a shed fat and they keep you thin you know they kind of keep you thin and fit so as soon as I manipulate my body in any way with diet or exercise I get results right away which didn't used to be the case so a lot of people talk about

being in their 40s and hating what's happening to their body but I have to tell you like I'm having the opposite experience because, well, because of these peptides. Well, because you found Dr. Dominic Frayden-Reed and you inject yourself twice a day, right? Yes. In the morning and at night. Her office is pretty full. I've referred like three or four more people and they're like, we don't, they can't get in. I would love that. I want anything to preserve myself. I know. It's basically like you're being embalmed. I know. I know, sweetheart. So for people out there who you know can't afford a personal trainer or can't afford to go to an anti-aging doctor or any of that stuff which is pretty much most people Mark's program is a great way for you to start to

see differences in your body and to get really healthy about the food you're putting in and to eat clean I remember when he was telling me about like dried almonds I was like dried almonds gross like there are so many things that I had no appreciation for because I had never tried them before, really. I'm not going to eat a handful of almonds as a snack. But once you do try those things, you realize what you're putting into your body is clean food. And the clean food is so much healthier than anything you'll ever get from a restaurant or, well, where else would you get food? I guess. Well, but to your point, they all work together. So the diet, the food, your skin, all of those things. So if you're putting the right things into your body, maybe you're not

going to need to see an anti-aging doctor because you're kind of doing the right thing already right like all those things help right and so go to venisonutrition.com if you're interested and just look at the meal plans and stuff and you'll get a good idea of what what it is and it's not a diet it is a lifestyle you keep saying that and it's true it is a lifestyle it's just changing the way you look at food and it's totally sustainable you know i mean i'm doing it i don't cook i mean i have like five different meals but like i just packed four ounces of turkey weighed out on the scale and put in like an ounce of avocado and mustard and i have my lunch and i should have had some blueberries or an apple but i forgot that part we can pick those for you so

yeah i'm sure there's an apple tree somewhere i can just grab one off of but it is sustainable so it is a program that works long term so brandon needs to move out of his neighborhood right you need to find a place you need a place for you your partner and four cats oh i forgot about those four cats yeah i'm probably just gonna go see if the animal shelter has a room for us because it's the only place that's gonna take fucking four cats are you do you have these four cats permanently or are you yes i know i know everyone listening is judging me i judge myself on a daily basis i also foster for a local shelter so sometimes i can have up to like 10 cats in my house it's not great i mean those are like bindi the crocodile hunter's daughter when that happens

kind of i mean they're little so they stay in like their little kennel and you bottle feed them and then once they get to eight weeks you find them homes but it's a real situation yeah well i mean i guess good for you is all i can say to that you know i mean i wish i could give you some more cat encouragement but i just don't have it in me like i do not you're not a cat person have affection for cats i don't want anything bad to happen to them but i'm also not looking to get one i'll make note of that yeah i don't like animals that go to the bathroom inside even though my dogs do i don't like animals that have like a potty that's exposed to the air that i'm breathing yeah i get it like a litter box in someone's house with shit on it to me that's that's a

deal breaker well you know what i'll tell you that is worse than that is seeing a fucking cat and this is true i've seen my friend's cat use the toilet to go to the bathroom great great what's wrong with that no you think that that's what i thought and then you see it happening and it's suddenly very unsettling well i would like to see that actually and then decide if i'm against it or if i'm for it because that sounds like to me like the only fucking reasonable move cats can make at this juncture in society they have abused their privileges for too long by shitting in a box and then hiding the shit from us with their fucking legs kicking it away and burying it and then so not only are we cleaning up their shit we're digging and looking for it like an archaeologist

and I'm not interested in that. So if you're telling me that cats are now evolutionarily going to use the toilet, I say amen. I'll get you a cat then. Meow. Okay, well, this has been a very enlightening episode. I mean, I feel there is a lot of body issues going around in this world that we live in

and you want to just like hit somebody with a magic wand and let them have what they want in life, you know, so that they don't even have to stress about it. But the thing about that is even if you got what you wanted, you'd also decide to change the goalposts and you would be unhappy about something else. Of course. So embracing all of yourself is a very important, active, I guess, practice. Well, it's never going to end. So I think you have to get to a certain point where there is

a level of acceptance and like self-encouragement for improvement that's not necessarily based on any one goal. It's just always being better. I think that's a healthy way to look at it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good way to look at it. I mean, oh god what a day i mean what a day we need a margarita oh god it's the only thing that's gonna solve this now yeah margarita and a joint by the way thank you very much week four okay congratulations shane i hope for anyone who does want to write in they can do that at dear chelsea project d-e-a-r-c-h-e-l-s-e-a-p-r-o-j-e-c-t at gmail.com dear chelsea project at gmail.com i survived nine months in captivity and i've spent my life exploring how other people survive

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Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, Adam Scott, Danny McBride, Ben Stiller, and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nick Turturro.

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