Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Men Found Useless with Cody Rigsby

Episode Date: February 6, 2025

Cody Rigsby joins Chelsea to talk about the career he never could have imagined as a kid, why monogamy isn’t for him, and fulfilling his true purpose of becoming a carpetbagger.  Then: A woman getting treatment for an autoimmune disorder is concerned about her family’s comments about her body.  A newlywed loses her motivation.  And a friend group is all sleeping together - only one wife doesn’t know it.   * Check out Cody’s podcast Tactful Pettiness * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I have the Critics' Choice Awards tomorrow night. Everyone can watch those on E! What else? Oh, I have exciting new lemonade coming out, you guys. I partnered with a lemonade brand called, well, a vodka brand. Well, a boozy brand called Owl's Brew. They're female founders. So I found these two women.

You know, like I've been trying to come up with an alcoholic drink for many, many years. But the alcohol industry, like many industries, is so male-dominated that anytime I would get far along in an idea, there would be some massive hiccup. And it just didn't work. and there if you're if you've read my book well you haven't read my book yet because my book is not out it comes out February 25th so pre-order it I'll have what she's having it comes out on my 50th birthday please celebrate with me your gift to me is you pre-ordering my book we want to encourage all of our book club readers to have boozy book clubs so we partnered with Owl's Brew and we came up with three vodka lemonades there's classic which is yellow then there's pink and then

there is mint lemonade so we have three really smooth non-carbonated flavors they're only a hundred dollars a can i'm sorry a hundred calories a can um and they're delicious i vouch for them i went in for the tastings and we found something and it took almost no time it is so much nicer working with women it literally took one tasting day i mean i had spent hours and days with these other previous companies many years ago, I'd given up on this idea. But when you do read my book, you will see why there is a vodka lemonade tie-in because I was an entrepreneur at a very young age and I opened up a lemonade stand. And then when I realized how much money I'd be making, I decided that I needed a larger margin of profit and opened up a hard lemonade stand.

perfect so now we are it is called chelsea handler's vodka lemonade from owls brew they are hitting the shelves this month you can also order it online at the owlsbrew.com or you can go to your local stores they're out in lots of stores all across the country so yes owls brew chelsea handler's vodka lemonade please for your book clubs i mean obviously for your personal life and having a great time too but for your book clubs when you're getting together to read my book I really want you guys to enjoy Owl's Brew with the book. That's fantastic. And we're going to have it

at all my book signings. We're going to have Owl's Brew. Awesome. You're never this excited about things. You must be really into it. I know. I am excited because it's so delicious. My publicist who barely drinks at all, she's like, I love this. She sends me a picture every night. She's like, I have one every night before I go to bed. I'm like, okay, well you're a different kind of drinker

than I am. Fantastic. Also I'll be on, oh yeah, this is Critics' Choice Award. The Critics' Choice Awards are tomorrow night. I don't know what time uh 4 p.m evening in the afternoon 7 p.m eastern maybe yes something like that 7 p.m eastern on the e-network well we have a fun guest this yes we have a very fun guest today speaking of vodka peloton star peloton star cody rigsby he is our well he's a peloton guru dancer author and host of the tactful pettiness podcast please welcome a person i've worked out with several times cody

Rigsby. Hi, Cody Rigsby. Chelsea, be very honest. Like, do you have any idea who I am? Yeah, I do. You do? Yeah, I do Peloton all the time. Oh, you do? I appreciate the question, though. You're not wrong to ask that. And I would have not been offended. I adore you. I used to watch your show in college with my boyfriend. And I've read your book. And I just and I love that you're an advocate for not having kids. Although I have turned the corner on that. I think I might want them, but i'm not sure are you pregnant i will be in a few days oh wow that's very premonitionary premonitionary oh that's a good word yeah that really flew right out of my mouth that is unexpected is it a real word that is premonitionary means like my friend has premonitionary dreams

she dreams about same things and then they happen that's exciting yeah no i just know that i'm gonna fuck someone this weekend so and but you can't get pregnant in the tushy cody i talk about this You know, modern medicine, you never know. Eventually, I feel like we're around the corner from men being able to carry a baby. I know we've had a couple of male people carry babies that had transitioned and kept transition from female to man. And then they were able to carry a baby because they still had their, what do you need to carry a baby, a uterus? Uterus, yeah. Something like that.

But I feel like men are going to have become obsolete if they don't come up with some things, you know, like straight men. Straight men. obviously gay men are fine you know in my view but straight men are going to have to bring more to the table because people are getting pregnant with or without them you know there are animals that are parthenogenesis we've talked about this where you can get pregnant it happened to an anaconda she got pregnant without a male it happened to a condor a bird yeah what uh-huh it's happened to like a lot of not a lot but it's definitely happened and it happened twice in zoos so they had no exposure to the male species and they were able to just fertilize their own

eggs jurassic park here we come yeah haven't i talked to you about this no okay so men found useless my friend emily told me about this a long time ago because i was doing it in my stand-up and then nobody really seemed to understand what the fuck i was talking about so then i just started researching it more but yes you can like we are a thousand years evolutionarily behind animals so if animals are procreating without the help of sperm there is a chance in the next a thousand years that the human species might be there especially if a straight white man keep acting like this i love this do you know what i mean yeah so anyway back to your pregnancy congratulations in a few days i guess how does it feel cody to become a well-known person as an exercise

instructor first and foremost like you couldn't have planned that right uh no not i i did not plan that at all you know i've been working at peloton for 10 years now and i just thought it was going to be a side gig because i was tired of being a cater waiter and working late nights at a fucking nightclub and it's absolutely changed my life and i'm so glad that i get to like help people be their best self while being a little silly gay boy on a bike yeah yeah i mean it's a real i mean you really do have a different spin on the class no pun intended pun intended you do like have great energy great vibes you make the classes fun i know people talk about you and how much they love taking your class so good for you that's fucking awesome thanks babe yeah sometimes

I'm like, you know, when I get into maybe my politician era, maybe when I run for Senate, like it will definitely be on my campaign speech. In Texas? You should run in Texas first. I think I should. You know, that should be my goal. I'll just be, I think they call that a carpet bagger. Is that what they called it back in the day?

Carpet bagger? But if that's if you go from the north to the south. Yeah, maybe so. I think. I know J.D. Vance is a carpet bagger. J.D. Vance. Let's look up carpet bagger you guys. We need to get to the bottom of this. Oh, okay. It is a person from the northern states who went to the south after the civil war to profit from the reconstruction

so even worse than what we thought where they have no but it's a double whammy because they went to go profit from reconstruction so they were like oh oh i see i see so it's not that bad it's bad on one level okay got it yeah so when i go on my my my senate stump speech i'm definitely going to be like what only in america could just like could a cycling instructor make it into the pop culture zeitgeist and be successful and i'm and then become a senator in texas i mean i feel the trajectory for you passionately all of a sudden yeah i you know someone's got to take out ted cruz one of these days god god willing when the hell is that gonna happen i don't unfortunately not anytime soon question for you cody you grew up where you grew up in the south

right north north carolina yeah so i was born in los angeles i moved to north carolina when i was eight by yourself you moved by yourself at eight just me i got in a car and drove through now me and my mom and like our three cats and two dogs and a beat-up chrysler just packed it across the country and headed to north carolina and how was that transition i definitely cried when we arrived there there was no sidewalks where i could rollerblade and then you know the tons of homophobia and racism that's in the South didn't settle well with my soul. So it was for an interesting upbringing. Yeah, I bet that wasn't a nice transition. It's not fun to go to the South once you've been exposed to the North. No, well, in all honesty, though, because I was in Los

Angeles, I like looking back in retrospect, I am grateful that I grew up in North Carolina. I think it would have been it's a simpler sort of life besides the homophobia and the racism. I think if I landed in LA, stayed in LA, maybe things wouldn't have been great. Yeah, I feel like the homophobia and racism is just different in different areas like i feel like it is very pervasive but it's not allowed to show it's like a face you know in certain parts of the country even though it still exists just like misogyny and all of the stuff kind of exists everywhere but i once heard someone say like oh everyone thinks the south is so racist but southern people are able to like cohabitate and live next to people that are different from them without having it

be a big deal whereas in the northern cities we do self-segregate like if you come to la you see that it's so segregated, right? There's like Koreatown, there's Chinatown. Everybody kind of lives in their part of the thing, which isn't exactly what we're aiming for either. Anyway, Cody, back to you. I hear that you have a long-term relationship, right? No. Well, I did, but that ended about four months ago. Oh, well, I'm glad I could bring that up then. You know what? I'm in such a good place with it. It was a six-year relationship. We broke up once before for like six months. And I think that really affected the way that the second breakup

happened. And I had a really hard first month with it. And then I accepted it and I've been living my life. Well, wait, I want to, can I ask you about that though? Like, tell me how you think the first six month breakup impacted the second breakup? That's a great question. I think in the first breakup, I was taking a lot of responsibility for like my wrongdoing. And so I just felt like I needed another chance to like give it a go and I could fix it and do all these things and I think upon having another year and a half together where I was able to like go to couples therapy and do all the things and it still wasn't working I think I landed in this space of just us not being able to meet our needs and as much as that hurts and as much as like I didn't make the decision

it was the best decision um I also really dove into the book Attached which like goes into attachment styles within relationships yes i've read that book that's a good book it's a great book and like i'm anxiously attached he's avoided and that's just like water and oil and like it's possible but it's just gonna bring up a lot of confrontation yeah i wonder if it's ever possible to change your attachment style it is so half of the population is secure and then one for one fourth is avoidant one fourth is anxious and the goal is to to put into practice self-awareness and things in your life that you then become securely attached. Okay, because that's interesting because I remember being in a relationship

where I was very anxious, not avoidant, anxious. And now, and I'm definitely not anxious anymore. Like with any relationship, I'm just secure because probably because I've done the therapy and gotten to understand myself in a much better way, which feels a lot better. There's nothing worse than feeling the preoccupation of anxiety about a relationship, checking your phone,

wondering if they're going to show up when they say they're going to show up and having all those kind of negative thought cycles around a relationship and yeah you are secure because you know yourself you know your boundaries you know your worth and when those things aren't being met you know how to be like hey this isn't for me absolutely and there's really not a lot of like gray area anymore for me it's like i don't care if something works out or it doesn't i don't i'm not invested that much into anything even if i were to fall in love with someone i can't imagine getting so preoccupied at this stage in my life with, uh, with like a lover. So that feels a lot healthier too. And very mature. And I've never felt mature until I was in my forties.

I, I aspire. I aspire to be you in that situation. So you have a new podcast coming out. Yeah, no, uh, me and my friend Andrew Chappelle have launched Tackle Pettiness. We actually just shot, uh, we just recorded an episode today. It's been out since June. So, uh, if anybody wants to listen to Tackle Pettiness, get it where your podcasts are gotten. What platform are you guys on? On Apple and Spotify.

Okay, great. So what do you guys, you guys give advice on the podcast, yeah? Yeah, we kind of go through like, you know, cultural moments, anything that's topical. And then we try to focus on like a relationship topic.

Like today was like fighting. We also did travel last week, which was a lot of fun. And we take like listeners' questions, dish out advice, like only two opinionated homosexuals can. That's nice. That's nice. And your partner on the podcast, what's his name? Andrew Chappelle, who is an actor, Broadway actor, TV actor.

Okay. One of the funniest people I know. One of the funniest people you know? Yeah. That's nice. Can go round to round with me. How did you guys hook up? You know, just being gay in New York City, we've known each other for probably a decade at this

point, like a friend of a friend and going out on Fire Island. And, you know, our friendship is kind of interesting because he was one of those people that I didn't like at first, you know, Like where you kind of give a little side eye and you're like, I don't like this bitch. And those usually are the foundations for great friendships because once you get past that initial – that little initial bitchiness and then you see that you have so much in common, it's like, oh, I don't know why I thought you were so horrible because you're awesome. Yeah, I agree with that. I always have stronger relationships where it's a kind of slow burn. I think the idea of making a great first impression, I don't buy that. Like I don't think that matters as much.

you know like i don't think every first of all people aren't who they are when you first meet them usually exactly everyone's kind of you know being on their best behavior or trying to show off or trying to be i have a problem where trying to people try to be funny around me all the time and i find that extremely annoying you know what i mean like when i'm in an airport or someone's on a plane next to me they'll lean over and be like and i'm like no no it's not like that i'm good like i don't need you to entertain me i don't you or they'll say they'll have conversations that they know I'm an earshot of saying things they know that I'll like that I'm in accordance with or agreement with I also find that exhausting I wish people would just be normal you know what I

mean like you don't have to make me laugh just talk to me but whenever you're hanging out with and I'll tell you the reason I'm thinking this like whenever you hang out with like comedians or people that are in your field do you feel like they're spitballing and trying to make you laugh or trying to like get in with it does that make sense I mean my friends brought it up the other day she goes it's really annoying being around you and a bunch of other comics because everyone's just trying to be so funny and i'm like oh yeah i would imagine that would be annoying without being a comedian but i also don't pick up on that you know what i mean because that's natural they're comedians but when regular people try to be funny sometimes it's very painful you know

it's like oh god i only say that because i did as a dancer i did snl twice and i remember being on the set and i was just like oh my god these guys like especially the guys they were just like constantly trying to outdo each other with the funniness and i was like guys enough like i'm just a little dancer extra but like enough that's fun that you were on a dance uh that you oh yeah you were on dancing with the stars yeah dancing with the stars as well how was that experience uh i'm so grateful that i did it but it was honestly one of the most challenging and like things i've ever done and one of the things that beat me down so much physically and mentally and emotionally but i'm so glad that i did it and it was so good for my career and they couldn't pay

me enough money to do it again but why did it why did it beat you down emotionally so much uh you know okay so a lot of my fame or notoriety came through the pandemic and I was kind of encapsulated in this like digital space and not really being on my own in that and so then to take like go from internet famous to kind of tv famous and now have a lot of opinions about you put out there a lot of you know negative stuff positive stuff it was really hard to absorb i'm pretty much someone who like is pretty strong and confident about themselves but after doing the show for two months you have no days off you're exhausted you're tired and just like seeing a negative comment like would take me down also i think with any reality tv show there's there's

Things in play that are supposed to kind of fuck with you. Yeah, totally. And I wasn't ready for all that. Like I, I, I commend my partner, Sheryl Burke, who's done that show for like 30 seasons. I couldn't take the emotional ups and downs of that for 30 years in a way. Seriously. Cause then you're also, she's having to, all of those regular people are having to deal with their guests that they have on for the season and watching them go through their

emotional turmoil. Right. So they become like counselors. Exactly. with peloton isn't there like a chat room or chat board do they give you feedback on peloton do you mean like members at home or are you talking about like my boss like members at home is that is that a feature no it's not a feature there's a leaderboard so you can like compete right but there is a very you never got that kind of stuff ah you know like there is a

very rambunctious facebook group of peloton members where they will spew and like say all the things that they need to but i deleted my facebook like probably three years ago so i'm very far removed from it unless you're a conspiracy theorist yeah like i think i deleted it close to like this 2020 election i was like i can't deal with this anymore it's just people posting headlines about fucking politics i can't i got i got out i'm out i know i hear you and do you ever do you ever co-mingle with the or sorry not co-mingle do you ever mingle with any of the other peloton instructors yeah yeah yeah um i actually had like uh brunch on sunday with two my colleagues. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, no, I mean, it's a very unique job. And only we know what it

feels like to be on the platform and to be teaching fitness in this capacity. And yeah, I have a lot of fun with them and a lot of respect for them. And it's also not something it's so funny, because it's, it's such a great career that you would have never been able to imagine as a child, because this job didn't exist as a child. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And I never thought that this is how my life was gonna play out I've always had like this idea of being I guess famous or or being a personality um I think I tried to channel that through musical theater and then dance and then it's so crazy that life put me in the right place at the right time for Peloton and it was like literally the perfect job for me like perfect oh I love that what a nice success story

yeah no I look back on it I'm just like super grateful especially because I grew up so fucking poor and to have the world is my oyster is is fantastic did you run a marathon recently or do an iron man absolutely not you will not catch me doing that okay because my friend ang from whistler ran and i couldn't remember if it was you or one of the other uh guys and she was like i saw so and so from peloton and i was like that must be so she's like i ran right up to him i couldn't believe it was him in person i'm like that sounds so annoying and just like stop don't approach that i'm glad it wasn't you although it would have been funny if it were the the way that you feel about children is the way i feel about marathons i don't need to do it it's gonna do

nothing for me i'm glad it's happening to keep it over there so happy it's happening over there and like i this was the first year of 15 years of living in new york city that i went to the marathon and cheered people on and it was so cute i love that that was my perfect introduction to it but you will not catch me running 23.6 miles i think i think it's 26.2 miles right oh 26.2 I have no desire. I'm with you. I am not trying to prove anything to anyone, but really myself. Like I would never, I wouldn't run a half marathon. I mean, if it was for a charity, I would just pay for someone else to do it. You know what I mean? Here's the donation.

I can't be bothered with that kind of chicanery. It's too much. No, no, no, no. Also, you want to keep your knees, you know? yeah and i like i've tackled enough emotional trauma from my past to feel like i've accomplished something you know i hear you i hear you okay we're gonna take a break and we're gonna be right back with cody rigsby the jonas brothers are running it back we live the burning up tour and celebrate the biggest jonas brother hits that have defined a generation one incredible celebration one unforgettable night see the jonas brothers live at rbc amphitheater

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I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. like if the universe allows for something like that to happen i'm open to it i'm always going to accept you know danny mcbride fine yeah it's all this fragile masculinity exuding i could smell it walking down the hallway to be honest with you i was like is that weed nope it's fragile masculinity ben stiller no because a lot of times in out of context people don't get it or even know what a circle is you know what i mean like you're like oh what's this david everyone's so dumb and fake right fake and and also not interested or just like oh i've got my life i don't care about your life and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us oh and by

the way will ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode but he's just so busy listen to hollywood handbook on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back with cody rigsby we are back we're gonna give advice cody you're good at this right i feel like you could be good and motivational yeah i mean i love to give hard truths the hard way that's what we're all about here unfortunately a lot of people don't have good friends that are telling them honest honesty i know that's what we're here for the people don't yeah i mean i know from my own set of friends that most people don't tell you the truth oh no my friends will sit me the fuck down and be like bitch what are you doing

and I love that and I will do the same I always I'm an interloper I always will intervene always yeah well our first question comes from Sherry this one's a little confusing but stick with it is it Sherry Shepard? it is Sherry Shepard okay because she just posted a clip of me talking

about me not washing my legs with Kevin Hart on her show and then invited me for a collab I'm like no I don't think so bitch you don't wash your legs? I don't wash my legs in the shower now do you? I mean what's going why are my legs dirty they're not they're covered up all day And when I wash my hair, the shampoo and the conditioner falls down my whole body and washes it.

I get in my shower. I wash my Pikachu. I wash my asshole. I wash under my arms. And then I wash my butt. Like the cheeks because I don't want to get any eczema. I see what you're saying there. And I can't say that like 100% of the times I'm washing my legs, but I'd say like 50%.

If my legs are dirty, if there's dirt on them, I will wash them. But they're not. There's not ever dirt. My legs are never exposed. They're covered all day long. Like, what am I washing them for? Cody, are you running around New York City with shorts on? That is the real question.

Then you have to wash your legs. So, yes, I haven't been wearing a lot of pants. So, yeah, I wear shorts as much as I possibly can. Well, then you should be washing your legs. You got to scrub it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even though you're not, you should be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I do somewhat agree that the soap will trickle down and get onto the legs. It's not a full scrub, but you're good. crevice that i need to get into then i will go there with the soap and the water but the legs are out my legs are out i don't have to get in behind my kneecap like there's nothing yeah but if you don't if you don't wash your feet nobody can put their foot in your mouth your your feet in their mouth well that's fine and then by the way the water the soap and everything lands on my feet too right before it goes down the drain so those are i feel like are clean they're good they're really clean yeah because my telltale sign if someone likes you and while you're fucking

they if they put your feet in their mouth then you're they're buried into you definitely or they have a foot fetish or they have a foot but i don't really need anyone to be sucking my foot you know what i mean there's so many other things but like you know from time to time like hey okay this works i'm here for it go off yeah yeah yeah i kind of have that attitude too like if you want to do it but if you do it like if it is a fetishy thing i'm not into it like if it happens every time then no it has to be like sporadic one time we haven't even gotten to the question i'm sorry that's okay continue there was one time i was at this party in fire island and this guy asked me he definitely had a foot fetish he was like can i just massage your feet and i was like you know

what go for it and it was an incredible massage of course and why would anyone say no to a foot massage i mean i will take a foot massage from someone from isis you know what i mean i don't care who's giving me a foot massage i love getting my feet rubbed exactly okay question we're ready question sorry uh so back to sherry uh she says dear chelsea i have an ethical dilemma that i'm hoping you can give me advice on what i should do within my group of friends there are two couples with a messy situation let's call them couple a and couple b i'm close friends with all of them especially the wife from each couple both couples have young kids the husband from couple a recently confided in us that his wife has been having an on again off again affair with husband b

for over 10 years. Husband A confronted husband B about their affair and he admitted it too. Husband A is devastated and heartbroken. He hasn't made any decisions yet about what he's going to do. He feels that coming out with this and telling wife B

will ultimately destroy two families. As far as I know, my husband and I are the only other people who know about the affair and I feel terrible that I know this information but I haven't told my friend wife B about what her husband has been up to. What do I do? Do I tell wife B or leave it up to husband A to decide? This is such a difficult position to be in and I wish I didn't know this information. If I keep it to myself,

how can I continue my friendship with wife B? To make matters worse, this isn't the first time I've heard that husband B has been unfaithful, but in the past I kept it to myself because I didn't know for sure and I figured that saying something to wife B would more than likely ruin our friendship because she would ultimately believe her husband because he talks for a living and can be very convincing and influential what do i do cherry my my disposition on this constantly changes depending on the set of circumstances and depending on the feedback we've gotten from callers who've called in with similar problems cody why don't you go first and give your advice on this situation wow first of all the question felt like a fucking sat question i was like

just be happy she fucking divvied them up to couple a and b the other day dealing with 36 cousins and nephew and an aunt and a priest i was like what i can't follow the story uh yeah they should honestly just be in a polycule because they're halfway there to all having sex with each other they honestly need to reframe their idea of like i don't think monogamy is for for everybody and so maybe they want to explore some form of ethical non-monogamy but that's really on them to decide what they're doing with the mess if i were the friend i would kind of stay out of it because you already know the thesis like husband b is is cheating on on wife b and she's not going to believe you if you say it so it's going to ruin your friendship anyways i would stay the

fuck out of it until it all comes out because everything dark comes to the light one way or the other i i would agree i'm gonna say that i sometimes i say tell on them you know like i want people to but for this situation i would say it sounds like it's about to come out anyway like everyone all the chips are falling and like not into place out of place like everyone's gonna kind of get the situation soon and it's not your responsibility it sounds messy and if it's been going on for 10 years that's a whole other level of unethical non-monogamy i like what you said ethical non-monogamy because that's important you can have that if you're ethical about it and honest but that's not what's going on here especially if that guy's a talker like you

don't want to ruin your relationship with your friend you know I I think it's it's best to just let let the chips fall where they may and then you can get in there after and be like listen I was in a really uncomfortable situation and I didn't know if you knew and you know all of that stuff i didn't want to get involved in it because it was very confusing but yeah i say stay out of it yeah yeah i think i think a post-mortem when everything when everything hits the fan she can then come to the friend and be like hey girl like i did know this but this is why it was complicated i love you i'm here for you let me help you through this yeah are you a monogamist cody i am not i was gonna say i as someone who has cheated on boyfriends i feel like the way to go

is non-monogamy but i am a firm believer that monogamy does need to be at least for me needs to be the foundation at first in the relationship but as the years go on like i just i don't think i could only sleep with one person for the rest of my life i know i know that i can't but i'm not i don't want to be polyamorous i couldn't have a relationship with most people just fucking yeah i don't know who put this monogamy into our heads to begin with it's too it's just it's just very antiquated it's starting to feel even though i'm a monogamous like when i'm with them when i'm with them i can totally see why it doesn't make any sense for long periods of time you know maybe five year ten year intervals even ten years sounds like too long but but um some

people really do love monogamy so and for the people that love it go for it babe i i just know in my soul it's not for me yeah it's like i know in my soul that i wasn't meant to be someone's wife or mother exactly like no regrets in fact every time i think about it the fact that i don't have a child or the fact that i don't have a partner i'm just so grateful like i'm like oh this is so much nicer so also like being married or like in a a long-term committed relationship is not your not your vibe either i don't want to be married no no no legal status but you can be with someone maybe for the rest of your life maybe maybe but let's be reasonable i mean it's doubtful you know i love people who know what they want and they're that's the perfect way to be yeah i

like yeah i like to be stimulated so to be stimulated usually requires a newness yeah at some point well our next question we'll start with kelly her subject line is how to lose weight without quote-unquote compliments. Dear Chelsea, bottom line up front, I'm about to go on weight loss medication, but I don't want people close to me to comment on my body changes. How do I let people know this without sounding cunty? For context, for the past two years, my doctors and I have been trying to figure out why my body won't respond to eating responsibly and consistently attending a spin gym for about 12 of those months. This summer, she and my endocrinologist diagnosed me with PCOS, and one of the symptoms is weight gain. We decided to try metformin and

tweak my eating habits and exercise routine and regroup in December. Well, it's coming decision time and nothing has changed, so it's time to pivot to an injectable. From ages 13 to 27-ish, I struggled with bulimia, trendy diets, obsessive workouts that made me a slave to the gym for hours a day while tracking every gram of macros across every piece of food, among other disordered eating behaviors. After years of therapy, I'm now at my heaviest weight, but healthiest mental state. I'm a firm believer in body neutrality. However, I feel my body just isn't meant to carry this much weight in this form, and I'm uncomfortable and know my body chemistry is just not operating correctly. Throughout my weight fluctuations, the one thing that has been consistent is that

my family praises me when I'm in a smaller body. I understand this is a cultural thing, and they have the best intentions. I also know I have done the work to deal with how I perceive myself but I worry that those around me will keep up with their old ways is there a way to get ahead of this or handle the quote-unquote compliments when I know they mean well but also feel they could be damaging to me thank you for all the positive energy Kelly hi Kelly hey hey Kelly hello I don't know the answer to this I don't know how you get people to not comment on on your weight because it's so like if you have a history with your family that's one thing you can have a conversation with them and explain to them what's happening and how you don't think it's healthy for

your you know your your mental health to hear their feedback about your physicality all the time this is Cody Rigsby by the way he's a I noticed yeah okay great it feels like okay are you gonna have that is it gonna have a deleterious impact on you if if regular people are commenting on your weight because it's a very hard thing for people not to do no I know that it's my family and they're not great at taking those types of conversations. Case in point, like freshman year of college, I lost like 40 pounds. And my aunt, who's been like a pseudo grandmother to me my entire life, like called me over and was just like, Kelly, you look wonderful. I'm so proud of you and this, that and the other thing. And like, that's where most of my compliments

come from my family. May I take a stab at this? Yes, please. Well, first of all, I commend you on like you being in the right place for your own journey because you seem really grounded in like, this is for my health. This is for my mental health. This is for me to feel confident. This is for me to feel like my best. And I think that is the best mentality to have,

especially around weight loss or working out. Like our bodies are only going to look a certain way for a certain time. They're going to fluctuate. They're going to change. And we don't have control over that. So I think that's a great mental space. That being said, also,

we can't control other people's actions we're not going to be able to control the compliments that they give us but i think that you can start to reframe those physical comments into a space of if someone's like hey you look great kelly since you lost weight you're like thank you i think just saying thank you to any compliment is fine you could also take lead on the conversation of being like thank you but honestly it's I feel amazing and I've never felt better and I I'm really happy and that's the thing that I you want to get across to them it's just the way you feel and just taking charge of the charge of the narrative and no you can't control anybody's whatever the fuck they're gonna say

I do think there's a little bit of room for some teaching here I think if there are certain family members you're worried about kind of like really hitting the like oh you look so skinny stuff hard I think it's okay to like just address that with them like I'm making some changes with my doctors For my health and like I just would so appreciate like not commenting on my body Or if someone does bring it up saying like thank you so much. I know you mean well But you know i'm the same person in a larger or a smaller body So thanks for letting me know but i'm i'm feeling really happy and you know Like cody said going into like i'm feeling happy about this xyz in my life

It doesn't necessarily have to be like a a body thing. It can be something That's just like something you're doing that's making you feel better in your life. But I also think it wouldn't be like, okay, if your family doesn't respond well to things, if you wrote a thoughtful email to your family and said, listen, I'm on this like weight loss journey, the times where I have lost weight and have heard comments from you guys, which I know you are, you know, giving me or compliments about how I look good when I lose weight or when I've dropped 40 pounds, you can give specific examples about your freshman year in college.

the comments I know you mean well but those kind of comments and getting rewarded for having a smaller body haven't helped so moving forward it would really mean the world to me if we could just keep the comments to yourself about me and any sort of weight loss or weight gain I have I need to do this for my own mental health and this is something that's really important to me and as people who love me I can only imagine that you want to support that that sounds doable my family's not the type of people that you can have that kind of conversation in person with. So write it in an email, let them all talk about it together and be like, Oh, did you get the email? Like let them reflect and actually digest what you're saying. It's not unreasonable. And once they know that

it has that impact on you, they are going to think twice about making those comments. And you can say we're in a different time. It's not really appropriate to be making these comments. I'm feeling so good about myself i just want to keep feeling good about myself and those kind of comments are not helpful for me okay no i i like i like the sounds of that i just i guess i'm just nervous for you know sounding like pretentious and and part of me is pretentious but you're not being pretentious you're being protective of yourself that's what like you're being self empowering there's nothing pretentious forget about your family and where they're from this is about you and where you're from and where you're going like there's nothing pretentious

about that that's actually being really upfront and honest and and there's nothing wrong with it yeah it's creating a boundary communicating that boundary and telling people to you know not cross it yeah and i think like when people do because you will have people who who cross that boundary even if you've communicated with them you know having that patience and being like thanks like this isn't really because i'm doing all these different things this is because i'm treating the PCOS that, you know, caused some of this weight gain and that sort of thing. You know, I'm working with my doctors and getting good treatment. Yeah. Yeah. And also, and also do some of the work that Cody mentioned about taking those comments and kind of having them turn into

a different comment in your head. You really can't control what other people are going to say or how they're going to react. So you have to kind of figure out the way that you're going to be able to digest them in a different way instead of having it make you feel like uncomfortable there's a way you can kind of empower yourself with those comments and be like I'm going to take that and this is this is what I know that they meant to say or that they wanted me to feel so I am going to choose to feel that way even though it's an annoying thing to keep hearing yeah I agree there's probably like a different way to sort of metabolize those comments that you're getting you know, so to speak. But I also think it's really important to underscore here that, you know,

we're in 2025, like it's never okay to comment on someone else's body, you know, whether their skin is discolored, or they have an injury, or they've lost or gained weight, or they're wearing a medical device, like, it's okay to just not say anything. And in fact, it's preferable to not say anything unless they bring it up. And it's something that they choose to talk about, you know, unsolicited comments about someone's weight and especially weight loss can be really painful for people. I mean, people lose and gain weight for all kinds of reasons. I mean, they may be going through a period of grief. Maybe they've changed medication that's caused weight gain or weight loss. Maybe they're having a mental health crisis or they're dealing with an illness. Maybe

they have an eating disorder. And those compliments really can get in their head and do really lasting damage. So I think it's really something that we have to pay attention to that like our words do matter. And sometimes even when we're trying to be kind, it can unintentionally be really damaging. So I think it's great to be able to set these boundaries with your family. But if you have like a neighbor who comments or you know, someone else in your life who comments, one thing you can say is just like, yeah, I know bodies change in all kinds of ways for all different reasons, right? And just like leave it at that. And like if it's a little awkward, it's okay if it's a little bit awkward.

But with a comment like that, you're not really giving any credence to like it's a positive thing or a negative thing. But you're also not denying that it happened. So it's a good way to set a boundary. But don't be afraid of putting up boundaries. Like that's what we're lacking. Yeah. Especially as women. Oh, yes.

Certainly with my family. We're grossly close, so. Yeah. Okay. Well, good. Put together an email. Compose it. take your time to write it. And I guarantee you'll be surprised by the results. Yeah.

Or the response. I mean, all right. Thank you. Thanks so much, Kelly. Thank you. Bye, Kelly. Bye. Have a good one. I think that's such a good question, too, because we don't necessarily know what people's backstories are, whether they have a condition that's causing weight gain, maybe they were depressed and lost 50 pounds. You know, it's a good teaching moment to have with her family. Yeah, I had I had I was in Mallorca this summer and this server, this restaurant that I go to a lot there's a server and from the beginning I went in June and then I went back in September and when I went back in September she had lost like I mean like 50 pounds and she was never heavy to begin with she was very muscular and like very healthy and I

didn't say anything because I knew better than to say anything right and she said something and she was like oh my god look at me I'm wasting away and I go oh my gosh I know you look amazing like and she goes no I've lost weight because of stress and I was like oh oh shit I fucked up you know you we're just learning you look terrible i don't know i didn't you know she wasn't happy about the weight loss but i i i knew enough not to bring it up but when she brought it up i should have been like oh yeah yeah plus we were speaking spanish so that always goes sideways you never know how someone's going to interpret it it's like when people say i look so skinny i'm like bitch what what i don't want to look skinny i want to look like a like a muscular man so it's

like you it gets fucked up in your head yeah uh we've been talking a lot about that lately about like not talking about like skinny but talking about strong strong we like yes yes fit and strong yes um well our next question comes from britney and she is seeking some fitness motivation advice oh perfect yeah she says dear chelsea is it britney spears i hope so yeah i'm writing in for some motivation on how to get into a better exercise routine and routines in general i recently got married and before the wedding i was able to motivate myself to eat clean and exercise by wanting to look amazing in my wedding gown, which I killed it. Now I'm several months post wedding and I can't get motivated to do anything unless there's a staunch deadline. My wedding

guest thank you cards, I still haven't finished writing. And overall, I just prefer to laze around than start any of my home improvement projects. My partner is also trying to get into a gym routine, but oftentimes our preferred time to work out does not align. Pre-wedding, I was involved with a spin class that I loved, which by the way, like both of these ones that mention spin it was like kind of just a fluke nice little thing there so some serendipity but the instructor moved away and the gym has not hired a replacement lastly i cannot seem for the life of me to wake up early for my own enjoyment such as to meditate or write in a gratitude journal i wake up with barely enough time to prepare for my work day and always seem to rush out the door

five minutes late it just seems like an overall lack of diligence and structure do you have any tools or advice that might help me in my journey? Sincerely, a very tired person, Brittany. Brittany. Hi, Brittany. Hi, Brittany. I love the way you spell it, by the way. Oh, thank you. I'll let my mom know. Brittany, why are you so tired? I don't know. That's the thing. And I have energy throughout the day, but when it comes to the motivation in the morning to get started or the motivation after I've been working seven and a half hours I don't have it in me to like I make excuses for myself as to why I don't want to wake up whenever my first alarm goes off or I end up you know after work I just don't want

to stop I don't want to stop at the gym I want to get home I want to cook dinner I want to chill in my pjs and watch tv and I really want some I want to see these changes in theory but the But action is just, I've had a hard time with that motivation to get there. Do you feel like you're getting enough sleep or you feel like you're not sleeping enough also? I feel like in general, once I get going, I'm awake. So I don't feel like I'm overall like tired during the day. It's just when it gets to about 1030, I'm done. Do you work at an office or do you work from home?

Like, do you have the ability to like go work out in the middle of the day? Maybe since you have more energy throughout the day? So my workday is generally so I get to work at 730. I do go into the office most days of the week. I do have some flexibility to work from home, but I generally at work do not have any. I try to limit distractions as much as possible. So I think it's like for me, it's it's about building habits that you're going to do regardless of when it's comfortable or convenient and just putting those into your day or week so that they're so consistent that you show up when you don't want to. if you have more energy throughout the day and you have the possibility of working even even if it's just two days a week from home and you are already getting dressed in like athleisure you can pump from your meeting and then work out from home like in some body with body weight and you're not you're not taking too much time away from your from your work right at least you're getting

in a few workouts a week, I feel like if you're already setting your goal on this mountain of like, I got to work out every day, you're already going to set yourself up for failure. So I think finding some opportunities where you could work out 20 to 30 minutes, even if it's two to three times a week, maybe it's, maybe it's the two days you work from home and one, like maybe it's Saturday or Sunday, and maybe you and your husband could work out on the weekend together since you're both off. And that might be something fun that you could do. And don't let the workout have to be a chore, a task. Maybe you guys can go for a hike or a walk. Maybe you can just do something that's fun. I don't know if you like to dance, like do dance cardio, do something that brings

you a little bit of joy, even as you make it a task. And I would also say, just get in the habit of like exercise and lends itself to your life in multiple ways. It's not just about the exercise. It's about your mental clarity. It's about getting rid of any cortisol. You don't want to overdo it, but you do want to exert yourself to a degree every day. Like I would say to get up every morning and just walk for 20 minutes, go power walking outside your neighborhood for 20 minutes, no matter what.

You know what I mean? So that your body is moving, your body is getting energized and you're like creating more energy for yourself throughout the day. Like exercise is so related. If I don't exercise, I have no energy. That's why you have no energy.

You know, if I go for three or four days without working out, I feel it. Even when I'm hungover or I've just been on a flight and I've been performing, I always get up and make myself sweat a little because I just makes me feel so much better and have so much more mental clarity. So I would try to incorporate like as far as working out and doing a workout with weights and stuff, or, you know, you can get the Peloton app, you know, and do that at your house. You don't, you don't have, I was going to shamelessly plug that. I know. Well, that's why I had to do a cycling instructor. Your cycling

instructor on Peloton now too. That was our big announcement for today. I'm going to announce that no i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm just joking but if you do get the you can get the peloton app and do these like they have five minute abs classes they have 10 minute you could do 40 minutes pilates you can do like you just make a commitment and do it with your husband if you think that's a good partnership but do you think that is or would you rather exercise alone um i think that it's potential like there have been times intermittently that we've both woken up early and gone for a walk around our neighborhood together and we do enjoy walking but it's for some reason the mornings my alarm clock will go off several times and I'll just keep snoozing it

until I absolutely have to get up and going and typically I think if I were to walk every morning I'd have to get up at five and go and I feel like that's a normal time for people to get up and go but for some reason in the mornings my mind is just like this isn't i have a hard time i guess in the mornings deciding that that's a that that's a priority right but it's it is a priority because you're calling into a podcast to talk about it so you're gonna make it a priority what do you use what's that is that a green like exercise ball that's behind you it is so fucking use it i mean first of all what kind of caffeine do you take to get up in the morning do you drink caffeine I drink a cup of coffee about 20 minutes after I get up. I make sure I drink some water first,

or at least a few sips of water before I go in on the coffee. But I do. Well, that's healthy. That's a healthy habit. But why do you really have to wake up at five to exercise? What time do you have to be at work? So I try to get to work by 730. It usually ends up walking in around 745 with traffic and everything. But I try to get I try to leave my house by six 45. And then, okay, well that is a pretty early. That's probably why you're fucking tired. I mean, most people go to work around nine for an office job and you get done at 5 PM or 6 PM. I typically try to leave work by four 30 and skip some of the traffic. And then I'll get home usually around five 30, five 40. I know for me, I have to work out in the mornings

to really get it done. So it really, you have to kind of experiment with your personality because it sounds schedule wise, like it might be more prudent for you to get home from work and then go for a power walk around five. It's the perfect time. It's before dinner. What do you know what I mean? Get home, go for a walk, reflect on the day's activities, and then figure out a workout that you could do like two or three days a week. But I think it's important a health wise to keep your body moving every single day. You know what I mean? And then it becomes kind of addictive in a great way. Like there's, you know, you don't want to be exercising for three hours a day. And no one's suggesting that. But you need to pick a time to commit to whatever time you think it's going to be more feasible to actually follow through.

And maybe that is when you get home from work, if it's not during your lunch break or if it's not at five in the morning, it's dark at five in the morning. So, like, I can understand why that would be hard to get up and start exercising. So let's figure out what time makes the most sense for you. What time do you think that is? Historically, I've definitely leaned towards, you know, getting off work, stopping by the gym, doing whatever it is I do, whether it be a group workout class or an elliptical stair master, whatever it may be. Like I used to be really good about doing that. And then I think just over the last few years, I've kind of lost my way in a gym. like I don't necessarily know what I should be like, what I should be focusing on. I kind of walk in and I'm like, okay, what do I want to do today? And then I spend 20 minutes looking on

Pinterest for workouts to do at the gym for this muscle group. And then I end up, you know, doing that for a while and I feel really good about it, but I guess I haven't been successful in making that an weekly like scheduled thing. Okay. Well, you're going to do that now. You're going to write Write it down that you're going to exercise. You're going to do a workout three times a week. And you're going to do a nice walk, whether it's at the gym, whether it's the elliptical. Three times a week, you're going to do 20 minutes on an elliptical, on a treadmill, or a bike, whatever kind of cardio. And then three times a week, and they could be on the same day or whatever, you're going to do a class.

You could do a Pilates class. You could do weight training class. You write it down. I am going to commit to this. and every single morning you're writing it down and keeping a diary of what you're doing so that you're accountable. And if your husband decides to come along for the ride

or can join you in any of those activities, great. But I think you should go from work, commit to three days a week that you're going to leave work and go straight to the gym. You don't even have to spend a whole hour there. You can go there, jump on the elliptical for 20 minutes and leave. Just get into the habit of forming a habit.

Yeah. A lot of gyms have either an app or a program where they'll give you a list of like, here's what you do monday wednesday and friday and it's like 20 minutes of maybe strength exercises on different machines or using free weights and like it's all done for you like you don't have to think about anything so ask at your gym and see if they have that i also think a workout buddy might be helpful here too because your husband might not be the workout buddy you need you might need somebody like if i don't show up so and so is going to be like sitting there

pissed at me so like i gotta get my ass over there a workout buddy though and like especially with your husband like it can be a double-edged sword like it might motivate you but it also will be if he's not in the mood and he's like oh let's skip today you're going to be susceptible to falling into that you know habit so i i try to be on your own journey absolutely he and i have definitely gone back and forth like hey let's do this and he'll be like i don't feel like it yeah i think it's gotta be not the husband yeah yeah yeah put your mask on first also the the exercise will permeate into your life in other ways you're going to finish your thank you cards you're going to get all that shit together because you're going to have i've done that actually i did

and just got them mailed out this week so i'm really proud of that but also like kind of kicking myself in the ass because it took me seven months but that's okay you have a year doesn't matter so you are several months ahead you're great you got it done okay and also i want you to write the sentence down to yourself write it down i am a powerful strong woman and i am going to become more powerful and more strong. Yes. Okay. And that's what you're going to do. And write down your schedule for the week, what you're going to do. And you're going to be able to take days off and you're going to be able to get motivated, but write down the days, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I'm going to the gym straight from work. Even if it's for a half an hour, you're going to just get

into the habit of forming a habit. It's as simple as that. And once you do that for three weeks, you're going to want to keep doing it and you're going to want to get stronger and you're going to see the result and you're going to feel healthier and you're going to feel more motivated and it's all going to work out so this is your pep talk okay thank you so much chelsea you're welcome all right thanks britney bye bye thank you all so much thanks i like these questions i'm so lazy i can't get out of bed what do i do get out of bed get out of bed do you know how grateful we are able to be able-bodied and and and have the ability to move our bodies like we have to Remember, not everybody can do that, you know?

You have full utilization of your body. You better be fucking using it. And it only gets more limited the older you get. Yeah, and laziness begets more laziness, you know? If you're lazy and you don't, yeah. I mean, I don't like to call anyone lazy, but some people just are. You know, and then what?

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Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show we've had a lot of great guests like sarah sherman not that great actually can you help me can you help me shape this yeah how about we flip it on his head right how about we flip this around okay what is the surprise woman who actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird adam scott this entire time you've been expecting adam sandler to come to visit the show i i would never let go of that i have i would never set expectations for something

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